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hello, everyone, great to see you. i'm john berman. >> i'm michaela pereira. i thought you were going to start singing "together again." >> it's been a long time. we begin with divers racing to force their way into that sunkle ferry, its blue and while hull has slipped beneath the ocean's surface. about 270 passengers, most of them teenagers, still missing. >> cnn now has a transcript of the conversation between the ferry and the vessel traffic center. it begins at 8:55 a.m. wednesday with the ferry's distress call. >> this is the ferry, please notify the coast guard, our ship is in danger. the ship is rolling right now. >> there's more back and forth in a full five minutes later at 9:00 a.m., the ferry reports this. >> this is the ferry, currently the body of the ship is tilted to the left, containers fell over, too. >> the dispatcher replies, okay, there are no damages to people?
>> and the ferry, currently it's impossible to confirm. it is impossible to move as the body of the ship is tilted. >> then the traffic center replies, yes, okay, please put on the life vests and get ready as people may have to abandon ship. then, another five minutes later, the dispatcher reports, yes, we just notified the coast guard. >> so that is a full ten minutes before the traffic center confirms it notified the coast guard. that seems like an awfully long time. we'll talk about that coming up. in the meantime, arrest warrants have been issued for the ferry's captain and two other crew members after a prosecutor reveals it was a third mate at the helm when the ship started to sink. the captain was not in the steering room. >> as grief and anger deepen for passenger families, a fresh tragedy. the vice principal whose 300 students were on board the ferry was found hanging from a tree, just days after he was pulled from the wreckage. our paula hancocks is in jindo,
south korea. she joins us now. can you give us the latest on the search efforts right now? >> reporter: well, john and michaela, we know they are continuing throughout the night. this for the first time on friday, we saw the divers did manage to get inside the submerged ship. we know they managed to get into the second floor, at least part of it. but they were not able to get any further but up until that point, they didn't find any survivors and they didn't find any bodies. but officials do say they managed to pump some oxygen into the ship. now the reasoning behind this is because they are working under the assumption that there are still survivors, at least that is what they said on thursday. they're saying that if there are any air pockets within the ship, they want to make sure they are continuing to put oxygen into that area. but of course it is a very, very difficult situation. the weather conditions are not conducive to an easy search. we understand that the underwater currents are still strong, the winds are still high out at sea.
it's about 12 miles away from where we are now. john and michaela? >> paula, any sense of what caused this boat to go down? we heard about a rapid right turn. we heard about cargo shifting. are they getting any closer to pinpointing a cause? >> well, the latest we heard this friday on -- from officials was that they almost downplayed the fact that they could have been a deviation from the intended route of this ferry, one official saying they believe that this may not have been the sole cause but of course we did hear on thursday from maritime police they believe it could have contributed to this. at this point, it's not clear what exactly did cause this. we do know, though, of course, the third officer was at the helm. the captain wasn't at the helm and the families here at the harbor are desperately trying to find out more information. this is the third night that they have been sitting at the water's edge, looking out wondering what has happened to their children. we are hearing one woman over and over screaming at the top of
her voice. we have heard her say just tell us, are they alive or dead? are they alive or dead? that is the basic question that officials cannot answer at this point. >> agonizing way for those family members that are waiting onshore for any sign of their loved ones. paula hancocks, thank you very much for the latest. we'll continue to cover this story today. >> talked about the apparent arrest warrant for the captain. much more to come on this. first, almost six weeks after malaysian flight 370 disappeared, this is what we know at this hour, the bluefin-21 is back looking for clues on the ocean's floor. this is its fifth dive, the first four turned up nothing. >> so far, this sub has gone it alone but a malaysian official says more unmanned subs could join the search later. this as frustrated relatives of the 239 people on board are turning up the heat on malaysian officials. they've come up with a list, a list of 26 questions that they want answered at a meeting that is scheduled to are next week in beijing.
>> we've been talking about the search under the sea. search on the surface has not let up either, almost two dozen ships and planes are eye balling more than 20,000 square miles for any sign of debris. let's check in with aaron mclaughlin. good morning. what's the latest? >> reporter: good morning, john. we know as of 9:00 a.m. local time, the bluefin was in the water over 12 hours later, not clear if it has yet completed that fifth mission. missions can take some 24 hours. we are learning more details about that fourth dive, which it completed last night. it was able to travel some 4.7 kilometers beneath the ocean's surface, which is significant because it was previously thought that 4.5 kilometers was its depth capacity. and it's important that it be able to travel deeper. it had to cut its first mission short, its very first mission short earlier due to depth concerns. engineers analyzing the
bluefin-21 say they believe it can go up to 5 kilometers deeper. it is significant that in practice now, it's traveling at the deeper depths. it's important that it be able to survey this entire area. this is the search area that officials have identified as the most probable place that they will locate that black box, based on ping analysis. as you mentioned, the first foredives so far turning up no clues as to the whereabouts of missing malaysian flight 370. we are awaiting results on this mission. >> one of the things we've been hearing is there's a lot of call for extra assistance. we heard the bluefin-21 might get help with other auvs aiding in the search. have you heard any further word on that. >> reporter: that's something we're hearing from malaysian officials, the acting transportation minister tweeting that they're exploring the possibility of introducing more submersibles to the search.
australians all along say they believe the bluefin-21 is capable of completing this phase of this search. that being said, officials here in australia saying that in the coming days they may wrap up this area that it's currently looking at, which has been identified as the most probable place being those pings. they may have to broaden it out a bit. at that point it's possible one would imagine, that they would then introduce perhaps more submersibles to be able to cover more area. michaela? >> erin mclaughlin with the latest on that. thank you very much. let's take a look at some of the other headlines, this just in, a strong earthquake shook southern mexico. this happened about half an hour ago. the 7.5 magnitude quake, that's big, struck along mexico's pacific coast about 19 miles from the city of tecpan. we have no word yet of damage or injuries. stay with cnn, we'll keep you updated as we get more details. world leaders are denouncing
shocking anti-semitic leaflets handed out in eastern ukraine. those leaflets ordering jewish people in the area to register with the government office. they supposedly came from a man that calls himself the head of the people's republic of donetsk. he said he had nothing to do with them. more details from the ukraine later this hour. the deadliest accident ever on the world's tallest mountain. an avalanche on mt. everest cleared at least 12 sherpa guides. a rescue mission is under way right now. this happened just above the base camp, more than 20,000 feet up. the guys were preparing the path to the summit for climbers when the mountain of snow came crashing down. people in kansas city breathing a sigh of relief today. police took a man into custody in connection with as many as 20 highway shootings. three people have been shot since early march. none of them suffered life-threatening wounds. a $10,000 reward was offered for information leading to an arrest and now a man is in
custody. texas authorities have seized the ranch that was home to warren jeffs and his polygamist sect. this was big news in 2008 when police raided the ranch and removed more than 400 children they say it's where they sexually abused young girls by forcing them to marry older men. jeffs are serving a life sentence for sexually assaulting two girls, one just 12 years old. just a handful of adult were still living at the compound. could anyone still be alive after the ferry sinks? our next guest says it's possible if survivors managed to find the voids. [ telephone rings ] [ shirley ] edward jones.
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executives and employees of the chonghaejin marine office have committed a sin. we apologize. >> about 270 people, most of them high school students remain lost aboard that sunkle ferry. >> cnn has just obtained a transcript from the first frantic moments after that vessel began to roll. someone aboard the ferry called the traffic services center in jeju about 8:55 and five minutes later, the dispatcher advised, people should put on life vests and prepare to abandon ship. >> it wasn't until another five minutes past that the traffic center notified it, quote, just
notified coast guard. >> we have the president of security dynamics. you have such a breadth of knowledge on items like this. we're hoping you can explain this. to novices, five or ten minutes seems lake a long time. >> it does. and it's inexplicable at this point. we're still trying to gather as much information as possible. we're not sure when in fact they began to deal with the event after it first occurred. what we've heard from some of the crew members that have been rescued, the captain was brought to the bridge. we know he was not there at the time the incident first occurred. they realized that the vessel was imperiled, at that point, apparently word went out to the passengers, telling them to stay put. that may have been because the captain felt he was going to be able to stabilize the vessel and perhaps provide a more stable platform from which to launch an
evacuation from the vessel. but it soon become readily apparent that the vessel was not going to be stabilized. that's when the captain should have giving the evacuation order. that did not take place. we're not sure when there in the time line they contacted the destination of the ship, jeju island. >> knowing what you know about these kind of scenarios, and looking at the scene, we saw a video of the open oceans, the seas, the currents are strong, the waters are murky, temperatures are low. given what you know, how likely is it that there could be survivors under there? >> well, in other cases where vessels have sunk, we've had survivors that have been rescued as long as three days out from the incident. but, again, a lot depends on the size of the void inside the ship. >> when we talk about the void, you mean trapped air? >> that's correct. if the area is large enough for
survivors to get into, provided there's enough air so the oxygen isn't depleted by the people who are occupying that space and also provided that the individual people are in water at the temperature that you find here, which is 50 degrees fahrenheit. >> break down a little bit of information we just received, the idea that the captain was not at the helm of this ship when it had the incident. the third mate was. explain to us again, what exactly is a third mate? is this person qualified to be sheer steering the ship? and is it okay for the captain to turn over that authority? >> absolutely. the captain can't be on the bridge at all times. in fact, he has other duties elsewhere in the ship. he has to delegate the responsibility to driving the ship to other deck officers. now, he kandel gate that responsibility but he can't delegate -- delegate the
authority but not the responsibility. ultimately he is going to be responsible for everything that happens on the ship. and we know now that some of the decisions that the captain made -- we know this wasn't the normal captain on the ship. he was standing in for the regular ship's captain. he made some critical errors that were compounded over time. >> we know that this boat was a combined use, ferry and cargo ship. we keep hearing about possible causes, the route change, the sudden turn, cargo not tied down. how could some of that come into play in terms of sinking a ship? >> in fact, this is a multiuse ship. it's a ropax, a roll-on passenger ferry. it has passengers, vehicles and containers. the large teus that you see on a container ship. if you look to similar incidents in the past, in 1987, we had the herald of free enterprise, which
was a ship that took on water, it also had vehicles and what you need to understand about these ships is that in order to have vehicles on the vessel, you need a very large deck space. typically close to the water line. you don't need much of a breach in the hull to introduce water that if you only have 1 to 2 inches of water on the vehicle deck of a ropax ship such as the sea wall -- and as in the case of the herald of free enterprise, in that case, the vessel sunk within 90 seconds once water ended up getting into the vehicle deck. it's something that's called the free surface effect. you have 1 to 2 inches of water sloshing around on this large space inside the vessel. that's enough to destabilize the ship and cause it to go into a critical situation very quickly. >> it doesn't take much if you're not handling it the right way. kim peterson, thanks so much for being with us. >> you're welcome. ahead for us at this hour, the latest developments in the
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new developments to tell you about in the search for missing malaysia flight 370. the underwater drone known as the bluefin-21 went back into the indian ocean today for a fifth time. so far it has found nothing from that plane. >> authorities say the bluefin has scanned about 42 square miles. the malaysian government is considering deploying more unmanned underwater probes to
cover a much bigger arc, more than 370 miles long. joining us now, steve wallace, fobter director of the fa's investigation office and our information analyst, jeff weiss. great to have you, steve, i think most people would think more is better in this case. wouldn't it make a difference to have more of these underwater vehicles helping out in the search? >> well, michaela, i would certainly think so. we've talked about this bluefin-21 covering maybe 15 square miles a day at best. and a couple of descriptions of the search area, one was 370 by 30 miles, whatever it was, about 11,000 square miles. that looks like a couple of years at that rate. i would certainly think more assets. i'm more an expert on things that fly in the sky than go under water. i don't know if these bluefin-21s can confuse each other, whether you can operate several of them near each other. i wouldn't know.
the experts would have to answer that question. more is better certainly sounds right to me. >> how long do you think they can go before they decide there's nothing down there? you've been skeptical all along about this? do you think they should give it two weeks, three weeks? >> i think it's worth backing up and acknowledging how crazy pants this whole search has been. >> did you say crazy pants. >> crazy pants is the only word i can find. you have a general sense of where the plane went down, you look for surface debris. once you find the surface debris, you look for the pings, then you go this bluefin search. all of that is out with this plane. didn't find debris, started listening for pings. didn't really find the pings. it seems like we did not find a ping, yet we're going to increase the search area anyway. >> they heard four pings they think came perhaps from the black boxes. >> seems to me the ping
frequency was wrong. it also seems to me as i've said many times, the range of the acoustic pinger locator is only a mile or two. we shouldn't have to be looking at a huge area. >> that's a whole different issue. if the pings were wrong, it's not surprising at all that the bluefin is not finding anything. >> steve, are you as confident or do you have as much confidence or less confidence than jeff has in these pings? and if not that, then where do we go? what do we do? >> i may have slightly more confidence than jeff does but he's raising perfectly good questions. we're going with the best evidence we have. we have no debris here. i'll add one thing to the notion that this airplane could land intact. if it runs completely out of fuel, hollywood might have you believe the jet would plummet into the ocean. it won't do that. it has a ram air turbine that deploys and provides hydraulics and electrics and the plane
remains controllable. that airplane, even out of fuel it could have possibly been set down intact. that is one possible explanation for the lack of debris. jeff's raising a lot of good points. i think the team is just doing the best it can with the best evidence it has. >> i'm sure, steve, you've dealt with the term crazy pants at the faa plenty. >> smarty pants also. >> great to have both of you. >> are we going to have to hash tag that now? ahead in this hour, to our top story, captain of the doomed ferry and two crew members are now wanted under a south korean arrest warrant. they escaped the sinking ship. we're going to talk about the kind of justice they could perhaps face. i've always had to keep my eye on her...
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the captain was not in the steering room. that revelation has relatives of the passengers reeling. >> reporter: if the captain acted properly, many kids could have been alive. it hurts, really hurts. "the captain should have left the ferry at the very end but he didn't. i think he forgot in a moment of shock. rationally, it is hard to think the captain would have left the ship so early." >> i think that a lot of us have had the common assumption that the captain goes down with his ship. in many places, the law requires had him to stay on until all of the passengers are safe. >> but what about the captain of the sunken south korean ferry? he escaped the wreckage, now there's a warrant out for his arrest along with two members of his crew. joining us now is maritime lawyer craig allen. lay this out. the law varies country to country. what exactly is the captain's responsibility? >> well, we look at the
captain's responsibility on two levels. under international law, primarily the safety of life at sea convention, convention on standards of training certification, and then of course in this case, we look to south korean law. there is not much that's very specific on the international law level. the captain has ultimate authority and responsibility over the ship. so primarily we would look to south korean law. i have to say, i'm not aware of and none of my south korean friends or colleagues have suggested, that there is a specific statute about remaining on the ship. certainly not going down with the ship. so i am guessing we're probably looking primarily at some kind of a negligence charge, in this case, negligence that resulted in the death of individuals. >> it's interesting to talk about the legality of it and obviously more information will come to light over the next hours and days.
but i think most of us, just as we were talking about it, think that the captain has a moral responsibility to stay with the ship. does that have any weight at all? >> it does for professional mariners like me and certainly people i serve with in the coast guard. there is an immense moral responsibility to your passengers, particularly when those passengers are children or other people that are not in a good position to care for themselves in a situation like this. the law doesn't enforce for the most part, moral responsibilities. we look to legal responsibilities. i'm confident, even under south korean law, there have been suggested multiple bases of negligence in this case. as in the united states, negligence that leads to the death of an individual is certainly something you could be called to answer for under the criminal law. >> so we now understand, we're
told by prosecutors, that the captain was not at the helpleple when the incident happened on the ship. it was the third mate. that in and of itself seems to be perfectly legal. does this raise any possible legal issues going forward? >> most certainly it does. in this case i'd look at the captain's responsibility going all the way back to the time before the ship left port. the captain, knowing the ship's going to leave port late, under conditions of restricted visibility in this case, himself not at least immediately familiar with this route because he's been called back in to service. the captain's responsibility for the navigation planning, the navigation execution, he has overall responsibility and authority, essentially from port to port with respect to those passengers. in this particular case because this is a passenger vessel.
he has a particular responsibility with regard to readiness for evacuation of those passengers. we learned after the terrible "costa concordia" incident that this is something that the master needs to take personal control over, ensure those passengers know before you leave port what to do in case of an emergency, where to go. >> yes. >> and there's no suggestion that that was done before the ship depart ed in chong. >> craig allen, thank you for walking us through some of these issues. we know an arrest warrant has been issued for the captain and two of the crew members. we'll wait to see what chose charges entail. thanks so much for joining us. ahead in this hour, we're talking about two huge under water missions now, one, the rescue dive under a sunkle ferry, trying to find those 270
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jacques coustea. you know some things about the deep ocean. it's proving to be quite a mystery to us. we see an example of that in the plane. let's start with the ferry. we see this ongoing search effort. it's not a recovery, they're treating it like a search and rescue still. give us an idea of some of the challenges those divers are facing with an upturned ferry. >> it's a really difficult situation. the positive news is that there's a good chance of still recovering some survivors. but for a diver, you have to remember when you penetrate that structure from down below, it's pitch dark in there. you're maneuvering around a maze. if you're going to try and extract people from the hull itself, from the surface, you potentially endanger those people that you're trying to rescue, because the water goes into that compartment that presumably has air and unfortunately you might have a situation on your hands. >> you're saying there's a good chance survivors thinking they were perhaps able to find a void
underneath there. but what about the water temperatures, the currents? i don't know, how well do you know the seas in that area? you've been everywhere at this point. what challenges do they face. >> not everywhere. that particular area is treacherous. you have bad visibility, the water temperature is very cool. and you have currents which, of course, makes for even more problematic situations. now you're trying to talk about putting divers, specialized divers coming in from down below, which in and of itself is tricky and maneuvering through a maze that hopefully they have the plans for. >> we want to turn to flight 370. we've become rudimentary oceanographers, if you will, learning about the currents, about the depth of this ocean, this area that is new to man. how very difficult is the challenge of searching an area that's three miles deep. >> we've explored less than 5% of our oceans to date. >> that's shocking really. >> in any capacity, really.
>> you're talking three miles deep, the equivalent of an elephant every square inch of pressure at that depth. it's extraordinarily difficult. there are very few tools to go down there in the first place. the few tools that are capable of doing that a lot of times are relegated to other projects. it's extraordinarily difficult. you're talking about an uncharted territory. it's like looking to see what's going on in the attic through the front door key hole. >> this is a wakeup call about just how little we know about these vast depths. you are on this mission, mission 31. you are actually trying to help solve this problem for the future. >> the main point of mission 31, why we'll be taking a team down to live and work under water for 31 days in the only undersea marine laboratory in the world, outside of that is that human connection. the beauty of that platform we can broadcast live, day in and day out through the advent of tools such as this yuxt um yum
yellow nokia device. we can connect people with the developments of the ocean. we need to connect people with the oceans and hopefully the science that will be generated from this through our partners at northeastern university and fiy, will be able to entrance people into caring about this aquatic planet. >> i think it will. if anything, this mystery with flight 370 will certainly have planted some seeds. i 2 i think about the fact that people live on the international space station. this will be the first time. >> this is the inner space station. >> can we tweet you? >> if you're a diver and cnn can sign off, we'd love to have you down there. >> is basic cable available? fabian cousteau, what a delight. thanks for sharing your expertise. >> thank you so much. ahead, chilling anti-semitic leaflets distributed in east
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the notice they deny all involvement so whoever did it, the jewish community believes, is trying to use them and this prospect of anti-semitism to some sort of political end, some sort of wider political game they believe. they say that is particularly insensitive, inappropriate, it creates a terrible precedent and, really, it's an ugly card to play in a country that suffered enormously during the nazi occupation during world war ii where many jews were massacred during that time. >> a terrible reminder of a dark period in our world for certain. we know that world leaders are waiting to see if this deal reached between u crane, russia and the west is going to stick. are you getting the impression that pro-russian separatists are giving up buildings they took over or are they digging their heels in? >> they're not moving at all. they said they were not part of this agreement, they didn't sign it, they don't have to follow it just because russia says they
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