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"chicagoland" airs tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. you don't want to miss that. that wraps it up for us at this hour. i'm michaela perrera. >> "legal view" with ashleigh banfield starts right now. >> a large chunk of debris watches ashore in australia. is it the first piece of real evidence in the search for flight 370? or is it just another false alarm. all this as families demand that malaysia release the latest findings on this flight. as divers continue to pull bodies out of that sunken ferry and new details emerge about the can't than left the ship, we have now learned about a young
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crew member who saved the lives of many passengers with some last second maneuvers on board that ship. and her survived the deadliest avalanche in the history of everest thanks to a quick thinking sherpa. an american climber relives the moment that boulders of ice came thundering down the mountainside on top of others all around him. hello, i'm ashleigh banfield, it is wednesday, april 23rd. welcome to "legal view." police in western australia are holding a piece of metal that supposedly resembling a plane fragment. it washed ashore near the town of augusta. the head of the transport safety bureau says it is, quote, sufficiently interesting for mh-370 search experts to take a look at the photos. if it is from the missing airliner and that is a far cry from being certain at this
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point, it would be the first physical trace of the boeing 777 to turn up since it took off from kuala lumpur in the midnight hour of march 8th. no such trace has been detected by the bluefin sonar scanner robot now on its tenth dive. nor detected by ships or planes eyeballing the ocean's surface. aerial searches have been scrapped for a second day because of weather. back in malaysia, authorities say they have finally completed a preliminary report that's supposed to be done in the first 30 days of a crash and usually, usually, that information is public. but guess what, malaysia is keeping this report private. and that's one more bitter grievance for the families. >> we just want to tell them, stop lie. they're telling to the whole world they have good communication with the relatives, but do you know, for sunday, for monday, they're supposed to be and they promised there would be a technical
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delegation come to beijing and talk to us about the technical questions we are concerned about. but they break the promise and they just said, oh, stop asking the questions and face the facts. what is the facts? what kind of facts they want us to face? they are lying to the whole world again. >> there's so much to talk about when these new developments have come in. cnn's erin mclaughlin from australia and in new york i'm joined by former royal air force pilot michael kay and cnn meteorologist chad myers. live in perth, erin, tell me about this object of interest. what more do we know about it? >> hi, ashleigh. we're hearing from the head of australian transportation and safety bureau that it was found about 160 miles to the south of here, to the south of perth. he said that the atsb is currently analyzing photographs of the object. he described it as a metal sheet with rivets.
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we're also hearing from an australian defense force source saying it appears as though it's coated in fiberglass. not exactly sure what that means exactly. martin dolan, the head of the atsb, also saying, urging caution, saying that the more they analyze these photographs, the less excited they're getting about this find. we understand from officials that it's currently en route to perth for further analysis. ashleigh. >> erin, is it possible there's been other material that's been found and just not publicized, has anyone talked about that? >> well, this is the first report of an object of interest that has washed ashore that we're aware of that authorities are taking seriously. as a serious lead in this investigation. but there have been plenty of objects of interest found in that search for debris. an ongoing exhaustive search. hours and hours have been spend
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by plane and ship, scouring the oceans for any signs of mh 370. they have found objects of interest before. but so far they have ruled all of those leads out as sea garbage. of course, it remains to be seen. they're going to do the same for this particular object that was found. >> erin, stand by for a moment. i want to bring in chad myers. 150 or so miles south or so of perth. does that area give you any insight at all? >> i did a little calculation today. 47 days out. 24 hours in a day. let's say the current's moving one mile per hour. i get somewhere in the neighborhood of about 1,200 miles. guess how far augusta is away from the potential crash site. just about 1,200 miles. i don't believe in coincidences but that could be one. there is the circle of how far we think debris could be going now. all the way from northern australia, down to augusta, and maybe even into the central indian ocean. that's the potential. because there are gyres out
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there, there was a category 5 hurricane. it's called a cyclone, i get it. but it was 155-mile-per-hour cyclone above where the crash site was, where the potential site is. this is where the pings are. this is where the bluefin is going around looking for it. >> the first image you showed with all of those currents makes me wonder, 1,200 miles, so what, it's 1,200 miles of a curlicue path it would have to take to end up there and it just thwarts this whole concept. >> if you have a piece of debris, ashleigh, that just happens to be sticking out of the water a foot and then you blow 140-mile-per-hour wind on that, you have a sail. it's going to move more than 1 mile per hour, maybe 3, maybe 5, maybe 10. >> currents may not be as much of an issue. >> it may have gone faster. >> mikey kay, in all the years you have spend in the air
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flying, have you ever heard of anything that's metal with rivets and fiberglass-like on the other side? >> no, it doesn't to be honest. there are -- we don't know how the airplane reached its final destination. we don't know the way in which the aircraft actually broke up or impacted. if it was to break up in a fire at 38,000 feet, there's not going to be a lot left of the airplane. you have to look at what was left of the twin towers of 9/11 and you couldn't distinguish one point from another. it's almost impossible to say what a piece of wreckage should look like or not. >> let me ask you about this report that the malaysians will not release and it is causing great canistonsternation among family members. typically, they finished this report 30 days after the crash. this is an extraordinary circumstance. typically, even though they don't have to make them public, these reports are made public and malaysia's not making this
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public. is this odd to you? >> i don't think it's odd. what i would say is i think that in this mystery it would be nice to introduce a bit of normality. it would be good for the malaysians to introduce a bit of transparency. the norm is to come out with a preliminary report. it's an important point to stress, it's facts based. it doesn't have analysis. it doesn't have conclusions. it doesn't have probable cause. it does have things like history of flight, the background, the departure from kuala lumpur, for example. i doubt the preliminary report would include the data, for example. in this mystery, it would be good -- it would be forthcoming of the malaysians to come forward and give a preliminary report, but it can be updated. the important pieces. >> last 20 seconds. >> back to this debris. is there any way, that the t-7, because it is a composite
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airplane, that composite be misconstrued as fiberglass? >> it would have to go through analysis. without actually seeing it, it's almost impossible to say. i'd like to be able to give you an answer but i'd be speculating. >> colonel kay, chad myers and erin in perth, thank you for bringing us these details. we've got another big top story as well. the ferry disaster. half, half of the surviving crew members have been arrested. but we're getting some new details on one very heroic crew member, just 22 years old. a woman who may have personally saved the lives of 50 passengers. you're going to hear more about her in a moment. the expedia app helps you save with mobile-exclusive deals download the expedia app text expedia to 75309 expedia, find yours (music) defiance is in our bones.
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hope for survivors in the south korea ferry disaster almost completely gone at this point. the divers couldn't find any pockets of air on the third and the fourth floors of that ferry. but they are finding one thing. and that is more bodies. the death toll has now climbed to 159 and 143 are still missing. and if we look at these pictures on your screen, this is essentially the scene we keep seeing over and over again, searchers bringing back the bodies, loading them into the vans. dead teenagers, almost all of them. their high school, completely devastated. look at the scene, flowers on the empty desks of its students. the school is missing most of its sophomores. will ripley is live in jindo, south korea. what's the latest on the search efforts today? >> reporter: well, it is still technically a search operation, ashley, which is significant,
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because it means the divers are operating right now exclusively as they have been, going into the ship, searching for the passengers who are still missing right now. but we do know that this -- there is equipment in the area on standby if this transitions from a search operation to a recovery operation. there's a salvage ship from the united states. there are large cranes that will help pull this ship out of the water which will be critical in the investigation as they try to piece together exactly what happened. there are also ships in the area with nets around the perimeter to catch any bodies that may be drifting away from the area, ashlei ashleigh. >> that's significant. i think that might be the first time we've been hearing about the search operations going on outside of the ferry. do we know if that's a very significant operation or if that is really taking a second seat to what's going on inside that ferry? >> reporter: inside the ferry is still the primary focus, but we do know that some bodies have actually been discovered outside of the ferry. i remember a couple days ago,
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there was a young girl in a life jacket who was found, she had drifted out to sea. so divers have been focusing on areas outside the ship. but they still believe the inside of the ship, now the fifth floor area, is what they're searching, that's still their primary focus. >> will ripley, live in jindo, thank you for that, and for the work you've been putting in hour after hour. if you think about the numbers on this story, there were 29 crew members, 29. 22 of them survived. and of the 22, half of them have been arrested. 11 of them. including the captain. i want to bring in christine dennison, a logistics specialist, as well as our other guest, a marine safety consultant. first, captain staples. there has been much made of the actions of this captain on this ferry leaving the ship. while many of his passen jerns could not. is there anything, knowing the facts we do know now, and they
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are thin, is there anything you could have done differently or would have done differently in this scenario? >> well, i definitely would have sounded the alarm on the initial -- this sounds like this vessel was in serious trouble from the beginning. if you're a seasoned mariner, you've been going to sea for an while, you have this second -- this sixth, this degree of sense that you know something is wrong, you feel it in your bones. you know you need to do something. why he did not do anything is surprising to me. i'm horrified by his decisionmaking. >> there are so many questions that, you know, some thought might be answered in the same way as an air disaster with the black box, the flight data recorder and the voice recorder give us many answers. in most ships, there are voyage data recorders, but in this ship, there is not. why? >> well, that's an answer -- a question that's going to have to be given to the imo, why these
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ferries do not have data recorders. passenger vessels under certain tonnages are required to have voice data recorders. that's something that's going to need to be looked at to see if this needs to be changed or if they just weren't carrying one if it was required. >> if they have these short distance rules, korean waters, not international waters. do we have the same rule hearse or do we have voyage data recorders on all ships that come in and out of the u.s.? >> well, like i said, it's -- on most passenger vessels of a certain gross tonnage is what they talk about having them. so a lot of smaller vessels, they do not have them. on the larger vessels, they do have the voice data recorders. >> i want to bring in christine dennison just on the efforts that these divers are heroically performing to try to find more of these body. can you help me understand what will ripley is talking about, some bodies are being found outside the body of the ship. how the movements of the water and the movements the water in a
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sinking vessel, what that can to passengers on board. >> first, if you can imagine being in a car and it is submer submerged, water is rushing in, you try to open the window and get out and the pressure of the water is keeping your pinned inside. plus, it's cold and you're panicking. it's a similar scenario to what happened here. i think people were just panicked. the sense of cold water rushing in quickly from all sides is disorienting. it does induce panic. these are young kids that have no idea where to run or what to do. so you have a really terrible scenario going on, on all levels. they're not taking the direction, they don't know where to run to. if they're trying to get out, if they're in rooms, you've got doors blocked by the pressure of the water and they can't get out, if they could see a way out. >> and for those who could get into the water, the currents -- >> the currents could have played havoc. if they were hitting, which i think it was -- it was a turbulent day, there were strong current, waves.
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they could have fallen off the ship. at which point, they're working with nets to try to maybe catch bodies that are downcurrent. >> nets, it's just distressing if you think about it. captain, thank you. live for us in boston. as always, our will ripley. we do know more about that boy who flew now from california to hawaii in a jet's wheel well. it turns out that he was trying to get to somalia to see his mom. we're also hearing a lot of interesting things about him from some of his friends. we're going to share that.
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security officials at a big california airport are going round and round today about a kid who managed to sneak on to an airfield and climb on to a commercial jet. this is part of the fence we're about to show you that surrounds the airport at san jose international airport. looks pretty daunting. but police say the teenager jumped the fence and hid in the wheel well of a plane that took off for hawaii and somehow survived all of it. look at this. this is the actual wheel well. the space where that 15-year-old flew for more than five hours in freezing cold temperatures and almost no oxygen. back in san jose, the airport officials are wondering if a kid can crack their perimeter, who else can? here's cnn's dan simon. >> reporter: ashleigh, to put it simply, it sounds like this is a teenager who was home sick, who acted out in an irrational way, to say the very least. we have a little insight into what was going through his mind. he wound up in hawaii but the 15-year-old stowaway apparently
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wanted to get to africa. a law enforcement source tells cnn the teenager told fbi investigators that he was trying to get to somalia to see his mother. the boy, who now lives in santa clara, california, told classmates he missed his home country. why did he choose a hawaiian airliner? the fbi believes it was the first plane he saw. students also say he was new to this public high school. only a few weeks. what can you tell us about him? >> well, from what i know of, he was a really shy person, you know, he didn't really talk a lot. he mostly kept to himself. >> reporter: we're learning more about the time line, that the boy jumped the airport fence at approximately 1:00 a.m. sunday morning. the plane didn't leave until just before 8:00 a.m. which means he would have been on the tarmac or in that wheel well for approximately seven hours before it even took off. the flight itself was five hours. in san jose, passengers expressing disbelief over how the teenager could go
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undetected. >> we're supposed to have all the security, we're spending billions dollars and tax dollars since 9/11. kind of scary times. >> reporter: the teenager is still in a maui hospital. he's said to be in stable condition. child welfare officials are going to make plans to return him to california. ashleigh. >> all right, dan simon, thank you for that. i want to take us back to the top story of the day, the search for the missing malaysian plane and a big new development. when or if the airliner's black boxes are found, the secrets held within them could be revealed in a very special lab, like this one. we're going to take you inside this australian lab and show you how investigators get crucial information. sfx: car unlock beep. vo: david's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today his doctor has him on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one.
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in a mystery where every development, no matter how small, is critical, today's blockbuster's eliciting a very different response. quote, the more we look at it, the less excited we get about it. effectively downplaying the expectations for a piece of metal that washed ashore near the southwest town of augusta. still, after 47 days with no tangible signs of malaysian airlines flight 370, it's a tantalizing lead. the search experts are pouring over the photos of that piece of
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metal. the bluefin sonar scanning robot has come across nothing in ten dives covering more than 80% of its planned search area. though ships and planes have spotted plenty of ocean junk, nothing, not one piece, is related to mh-370. today, for the second day, aerial searches are halted because of that weather, specifically cyclone jack. in malaysia, authorities say they have finally completed a preliminary report on mh. 370. they're not making the report public. the passengers families are understandably outraged. if and when the plane's black box and recorders are found, they may be analyzed in australia. as cnn's michael holmes found out, australia's pretty ready with a bunker-type lab. >> reporter: in a nondescript
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government building in the capital, the secrets of mallash sha flight 370 might one day be unloshed. what's this room? >> this is our audio laboratory. it's a specially designed screen room so it's shielded from outside signals and as well it's got very good sound proofing. >> reporter: inside the australian transport safety bureau laboratory where neil campbell and his team forensically examine data recorders not just from planes but also trains, even ships. now, the reality is, there are very few countries in the world, just a handful of them, who have the technical know-how to work out what's inside one of these things. and this lab is one of those places. boxes from other investigators torn apart, burn, damaged in many ways, suggest a tough assignment. here, they say, the story of what happened is usually found. >> a lot of our work is what undamaged recorders and it's very easy to download them.
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much as you would a usb memory stick. >> reporter: your success rating getting the information off is good. >> yes, we've always been able to uncover the information from the recorders we've received. >> reporter: he is a measured, cautious man. prerequisites for a job that involves not just knowledge but patience, lots of patience. >> from the flight data recorder, we obtain a raw data file. which contains just 1s and 0s. >> reporter: the boxes contain a wealth of information. up to 2,000 separate pieces from the data recorder alone. high technology built into a waterproof, fireproof, shock proof shell. at the end of this complex train of information and analysis can be this, an animated representation a tragedy. this one from a 2010 training flight. two dead after a simulated engine failure went wrong. >> a lot of the symmetry which couldn't be controlled and the aircraft ended up impacting the terrain, unfortunately.
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>> reporter: you're able to recreation this thing from the black boxes? >> that's right, based on flight data recorder information. >> reporter: the size of the boxes is deceptive in some ways it the vast majority of it containing technology that supports the brain buried deep within. surprisingly small. but containing everything neil campbell needs on a handful of computer chips. in a box this big, that's what you need? >> yep, that's the crucial bit. >> reporter: but they have to be found first. malaysia not a country with the technical ability to decipher the boxes. nothing's been decided but it is possible that if they're found, they will end up here, where neil campbell and his team say they're ready to attempt to unlock a mystery like no other. michael holmes, cnn, cambria, australia. >> amazing. back to our top story as well, the ferry disaster in south korea. how do ship's captains learn what to do before they head out
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to panic. our rosa flores is on a simulator in ft. lauderdale where crews train for disasters just like this. i wonder if you could show us what it would have liked like from that perspective when that started to list. >> let me set the scene for you first. with we want to show you the bells and whistles. right now, in this scenario, we're exiting the port of miami. and then let me show you what it looks like when you're out at sea and you can sea the bigger body of water here in just a moment. there we have it. then we can add other conditions. perhaps treacherous conditions that a captain could experience. we could have rain, thunder and this just adds to the situation. so, dave, let's start listing the ship. we know this ferry listed about 60 degrees in 30 minutes. so this is what it will look like from the bridge.
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so crew members at this point, dave, help me out with this here, what would you be communicating to your crew members? what would you be telling them if you're listing at about 60 degrees? >> it would depend on the exact situation. generally if you're a crew member on a ship listing like this, you know something's wrong so you're waiting for information from the bridge, you have different announcements you make that would tell crew members what the particular problem is and based on that they would go to different stations to deal with different problems. >> it would be critical to know their specific positions. we have an interesting perspective here because we were going to be able to give you a view of what passengers would be able to see. so take a look at the second camera. because this really gives you a perspective and paints the picture. take a look. this is the 60-degree list from the side of the boat, so you can see that the water is a lot closer to those lifeboats. perhaps a lot closer to those balconies. that's the experience that the
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passenger would see. here's the other thing we can do. we can take you down below to where perhaps water could be gushing in. take a look at this video. this is really telling. at this academy, they teach crew members how to plug holes. the first thing they do is go in there, assess the situation and figure out where the water is coming from, then they use basic tools to plug those holes. pete, a gentleman we interviewed there, tells me sometimes a mattress is what you can use, then you use a mattress to plug that hole. with that said, i want to bring in the ceo and founder of this company to talk about the training that's required, because -- this is joe farrell. one of the things that really just stands out to me is there are so many positions out there requiring continuing education. that's not the case for captains. >> that's right, it's an anomaly if you consider how many people are on cruise ship vessels in particular these days versus the airline you flew in on.
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the captain's been checked out every year to 18 months. on the ship you don't have to go back after you have your operator's license to run a ship. there are safety courses but they don't apply to the captain. the companies we work with like royal caribbean, disney, they're very proactive. even though there's no legislation for it. that's why we built the simulator for them, we're catering to those. one other thing i like to add is the area of responsibility. your first line of personal safety. you can have crew members but if something is going on -- >> you gut has to kick in. >> you've seen too many casualty situations -- >> thank you so much, dave. with that said, this is the reason why these simulators exist, so that captains can practice these dangerous situations, dangerous ports, currents they were telling us, so that they can avert disaster. >> one captain said he spent a fair bit of time in the
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simulator and even though the platform you're standing on, it's actually not moving, you feel as though you're moving so you have to hold on so you don't tip over. the actions of the captain and crew of the south korean ferry have come under fire. one crew member is being hailed posthumously as a hero. a third of the people who survived owe their lives to her. you have time to shop for car insurance today? yeah.
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the captain of the sunken south korea ferry had 40 years of experience, but now he's charged with abandoning his ship. he's 1 of 11 people in legal trouble for this senseless tragedy. and then there's this one young heroine on the crew with wisdom beyond her years who stepped up and did the right thing. sacrificing her own life to save others. paula hancocks talks to the men who say they owe their lives to park jee young. >> reporter: a mother cries, i love you, i'm sorry. as her daughter's kof pacoffin by. park jee young was just 22. a crew member who gave up her life so others could live. these men were part of a group of 17 school friends heading to
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the island. they say they owe their lives to park. he describes how the ship listed so much the wall became the floor. an open door made the gap between them and the exit too great to step over. her colleague was lying on the floor, hanging on to the mic, telling passengers not to move. park took the keys from her, forced her way to the door, closed it and locked it to keep it shut so passengers could walk across. she was right next to the exit, he says. she could easily have escaped. that door saved so many lives, it was like the bridge of life. i asked how many lives. they estimate around 50 escaped through that exit. that's nearly a third of all pass be gerbs who made it out alive, helped by just one woman. she was just a girl, says this man, but she was so brave. if every crew member on that boat was as brave as she was,
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the disaster would not have been this bad. among the first to be rescued, kim says the captain and other crew members were already on dry land by the time he got there. while the captain ran away to save his own life, she gave her life to save others, says this family friends. we are so proud of her. park's relatives tell cnn they want to follow her example of thinking of others, although they say they could never do anything as courageous. park dropped out of college two years ago when her father passed away to help support her family. she was transferred to the sewol just six months ago. a step up within the company. praised for her professionalism and ultimately for her courage. paula hancocks, cnn, in south korea. >> such an incredible story of heroism. a stark contrast to the actions and the reported misactions of the captain and many other crew months. i want to bring back cargo ship
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captain jim staples, a marine safety consultant. i want to get your reaction to that crew member. 22 years old. and yet she defied orders and went with logic. >> yeah, it's just a shame that she had to lose her life. we were talking about what could have been wrong, what did go wrong. the inactions of the captain. it's a breath of fresh air to see that this young lady, miss young, stood up to the challenge. she knew what to do. she knew her responsibility was to get those people out of that cafeteria and get them to safety. and she gave her own life for doing that. she's a national treasure for the korean people. she's something for them to be very proud of. this is a woman i would have been proud to have under my command. >> captain staples, it's unbelievable when you look at the sheer numbers, three quarters of the crew survived and three quarters of the passengers at this point are likely dead.
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i just -- i can't wrap my mind around that. as a ship captain, i'm sure it's even tougher for you. >> absolutely. just the statement about the young man holding on to the microphone and telling people to stay where he was. yet this young lady knew what the right thing was to do. she knew to get everybody off that ship. it sounds to me like she should have been the one in command of that vessel and the gentleman that was in command was absolutely not making the decisions in the best of the passengers and the crew. it's just sinful that she had to give up her life. like i said, she's an absolute national treasure to the korean people and something for them in this tragic moment to be very, very proud of. >> well, and we're told that she refused a life jacket, saying that the passengers came first. so you're right, a hero not only for south koreans but for anybody all over the world who's watching this, this tragedy play out. captain staples, thank you, it's good to see you again. >> thank you. >> captain staples joining us live from boston. what was it like on the world's
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above us. and it was pretty good sized chunk of ice come down. you know, you heard it crash down. all the thoughts run through your head, was somebody under it, you know, how big was it, how much -- and everything flashes so quickly, but then within seconds the valley's full of just snow and ice. our sherpa did -- you know, immediately just paushed us behind blocks of ice, you know, get down, get down. the cloud ice and snow encompassed the entire canyon pretty quickly. >> he says he believes all expeditions to the peak of mt. everest will be dance edlel canceled this year. there are enough of them to be a cautionary tale for many who plan these trips and maybe don't
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have the training they need, sherpas aside. we've been talking a lot over the last several weeks about the ocean, the currents, the ocean floor, malaysia flight 370, and how searching for it has told us how little we know about the ocean. and then came along the ferry disaster. the south korean ferry. which has told us, again, how little we know and how difficult it is when water and oceans come into play and lives are at stake. there is someone, however, who comes from a dynasty that knows perhaps more than the rest of all of us. that's fabian cousteau. with a last name like that, it needs no other explanation. i know you've got the spectacular expedition coming up in june and i'm going to get to that, but i wanted -- since i have you, you're just a perfect resource to talk about what's happening in south korea. the efforts that these divers, and you having dived since you're 4, the efforts these divers are going through, risking their own lives to find the other 143 missing bodies,
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it's presumed now, can you imagine what this task is like? >> well, yes, i can, and it's extraordinarily difficult. heart wrenching to see they have to go through this and the families have to go through this. going back to your other story, if you're climbing on the mountain, you're climbing on the ocean. water's everywhere. the oceans are the focal point as we get keeping slapped in the face over and over again about how little we know. >> so june 1st is a big deal for you. you've got a mission 31 expedition. you're splashing down in the keys. and your effort is to sort of mark the 50th anniversary of your grandfather's wonderful efforts that have taught us so much about the ocean. what is mission 31 exactly and how crazy are you with what you're about to do? >> it is a little crazy, it is a little unusual. mission 31 basically aims to
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connect people around the world in real time for the first time ever, for over 30 days, 31 days, to be exact. you're going to live underwater for 31 days. >> the world's only undersea marine laboratory. we'll be able to communicate in real time. i'm distributing nokia devices to our friends and team members so we can talk to people on all seven continents through the different events. >> you call yourselves aqu aquanauts. >> not yet be y, you have to li under water for more than 24 hours to do that. >> the lab is called aquarius? >> the lab is called aquarius. it's nine miles off shore. the entrance is 65 feet down. that will allow us to go diving for 10 to 212 hours a day becaue we'll be at saturation depth.
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>> if there's one thing about the malaysian air disaster, i have never learned so much about the sea and what we don't know. what are you going to be able to teach us? >> it's exactly the point, try and put the focal point back on ocean exploration and discovery. we have wonderful partnerships with northeastern university and florida international university that will help us gather that scientific data in a way that is pal latable to the general public and be able to entice them to learn more about the oceans and bring to the world more at large. >> you've been diving since you were 4. can i visit that place? >> we'd better get started right now but i'm happy to teach you to dive, absolutely. >>cy i look forward to seeing the transmissions from there. there is a lot gripping information coming out now with the ferry disaster and mh-370. we now know the meager percentage of what we don't know about the oceans so thank you.
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>> it's all about funding. >> one point how much, 1.3 million some-odd -- >> that's a drop in the bucket in terms the oceans. >> thank you for coming. my colleague wolf blitzer right now. right now, an object of interest washes ashore on the coast of australia. is it from malaysia airlines frig flight 370? the death toll rises in the south korea sunken ferry. divers have found no air pockets where passengers could be trapped. russia's foreign minister ramping up the rhetoric, saying americans are running the show in ukraine. this, as u.s. paratroopers begin training in the region. hello, i'm wolf blitzer reporting from washington. we're live this hour in five continen

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