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to be an important and symbolic part of this coalition. not just reaching out to the new iraqi government trying to bring them back into the fold of the egypt. but they want egypt to cut down on the flow of the foreign financing to isis and also the flow of foreign fighters into iraq and syria that helps them recruit. listen to what secretary kerry just said moments ago. >> so we are very grateful that both egypt and the arab league have supported this coalition every step of the way. and in each of the meetings that i had today we discussed how we could better accelerate the efforts in bringing more nationinnations on board and in dividing up the responsibilities. >> and in another thing that secretary kerry wants egypt to do is use its messaging. get the religious clericing out
there and thethe mosque on the friday sermons to preach the idea that the isis is the enemy and modern arabs should really extrue on this brutal extremist ideology. and egypt with its weight in the region had a role to play there. >> he mentioned being grateful to be there. but what kind of reception is he really getting from saudi arabia, turkey, now egypt. >> all these countries kind of approach this in a different way, if you will. saudi arabia, for instance, a lot of the extremist ideology that kind of stem from this isis issue comes from, you know, these kind of extremist islam that come from saudi arabia. you have 49 hostages government officials held hostage by isis. so they are going to be careful
what they are doing. and egypt has its own terrorism problem they are fighting. and they see libya with this horrible military problem there. and they want the united states to take a whole of region approach. everybody recognizes isis is the threat to the region. but they also have their own concerns and they want the united states to take a look and address some of their problems. and so i think it still needs to be shaked out whose going to do what, how this is going to go. but clearly everyone sees isis as a threat. i think the question is what happens after isis? >> all right. elise, thank you so much. joining us from cairo, traveling with the secretary. the pent dwon t state depuartmet are talking about whether or not the white house is in fact at war with isis. and there are perspectives. listen. >> what i said was this is not the iraq war of 2002. but make no mistake. >> we are at war with isil the same way we are with al qaeda.
>> al qaeda affiliates all around the globe . >> so is this a case of the semantics or are americans getting mixed messages. we want to dig deeper into this. >> we also have shadid joining us. the author of the book "temptations of power:islamists and liberal democracy in the new middle east." general marks. let's start with you. is the u.s. at war? >> victor, it is. in fact the question in my mind is when did we decide and who decided that we weren't at war? why is this a new discussion we are having. since 9/11 the u.s. has been in a constant state of conflict. we've been at war.
and the fact we don't have troops in iraq. we are now reintroducing some soldiers into iraq. the fact we are still in combat in afghanistan describes for me a constant state of conflict that the united states needs to embrace. so truly we are in a state of war. and what we have is a metaphor f sis and a cancer growth now in the form of isis. clearly we are in the state of war and frankly the president and this administration is doing the right thing to step up efforts to assure that we can kill it. >> general, we caulked to cnn's aaron burnett a momenting a. and he had this to say. >> unless you have been in the position president obama has been, it's really difficult to understand all the context of the decision. i think there is plenty of blame for everybody. but i think we spend way too much time thinking about blame.
if you think about our strategy now against isis, the one thing we absolutely need is cohesion in the united states in support of the president's strategy. is it a perfect strategy? no. i've never seen a perfect strategy. but i can guarantee that it is a weaker strategy if we don't fall behind it. >> all right. so do you think that the president can get full support? >> well i mean should he really fall behind a strategy that's deeply flawed? the big problem here is that we're comparing isis to al qaeda. talking about a glorified counterterrorism strategy. isis is a fundamentally different beast than al qaeda. isis is not primarily a terrorist organization. it's a pretotostate. it continues large swaths of the world. it runs local administrations if various cities. so we are dealing with a much more challenging and frightening
threat. so if we go in and say we're going to do the same thing we did against al qaeda and yemen and somalia, we are mischaracterizing the nature of the threat. i think we as americans have to be very -- we have to be critical if we don't feel the president's strategy really meets the kind of threat that we're talking about here. >> now the president's strategy does not include boots on the ground. he has said that many times. many have said that repeatedly. general marks, is that being complete ll lly honest that wil take boots on the ground? or do you think this can be effected without sending u.s. troops? >> good question. in order to meet the president's desired instate. he's established an instate which is to defeat isis. the horizon is going to be that much longer. at some point there must be a
presence of soldiers on the ground. and i hate to use the term boots on the ground. i diminishes what's really taking place and the sacrifices the soldiers make. but it is going to take a ground presence, soldiers on the ground in order to get the root out of the syria which is where isis found its support and ability to organize, train and launch operations. it is in fact a state. can create governance and has created governance. as a result it is going to take a while to root that out. so the aggressive air campaign is simply a first step in a larger strategy that includes a lot of application of power and a coalition in order to achieve it. so the honesty on the part of the president is this is going to take a while. let's not try to get a microwave solution. it is not going to be quick. we have to commit and focus. and we will be able to achieve this desired instinct. that is the message we all need to here. >> and shadi, with that being
said these arab nations are saying they will, quote, do their share. but what exactly does that mean? >> i mean, what is striking so far is how tepid the arab support is. kerry is trying to rally support but we are not seeing explicit commitments. there is a lot of talk in sharing in the fight but in terms of actual military contributions we are seeing very little. and part of that is because arab nations are consumed with their own domestic struggles and fighting their own political opponents. but then there is also a lot of skepticism about this president in particular. obama has had a very strained relationship with most arab leaders. they feel that he's been disengaging from the middle east. that he doesn't have skin in the game. that he doesn't actually want to commit. and i think we just have to look back to last year when we were about to launch air strikes in syria. and we backed down at the very last moment. that undermined, i think, a lot
of trust. so i think people are waiting to see how serious the u.s. is. is the u.s. going to follow through? or is a lot of this rhetoric at this point? and a big part of that is are we going to be serious about backing mainstream rebel forces against isis and the assad regime. is there a serious plan in place beyond what the president has already talked about? that is still an open question. >> generally marks and shadi we are so grateful for you being here. >> thank you so much. and i had a bit of the coughing spell at the top. sorry about that. >> it happens to the best of us. >> the ray rice case has thrusted the issue of domestic violence back into the national spotlight. we'll talk with the man who is helping train other men to face down and wipe out abuse against women. >> also alexander field's been
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came out. he has been cooperating with the authorities. but the vikings are already responding to this. and it's just an indictment at this point. but already vikings taking a stand. deactivating him tomorrow and also put out a statement saying it is -- excuse me. saying they are in the process of gathering information regarding the legal situation involving adrian peterson. all we know he will not play in sunday's game. we will have to see what the vikings next move is. as he pointed out adrian has been cooperating with authorities. he's been indict baed by a gran jury. and the charge has do with him using a switch to spank his son. his defense attorney is also speaking out saying adrian is a loving father who used his adjustment as a parent to discipline his son. he used the same kind of discipline with his child he experienced as a child growing up in east texas tx.
and it's important to remember that adrian never intended to harm his son and deeply regrets the unintentional jury. as a result there was a warrant out for his arrest. he left minnesota voluntarily last night and went to texas to turn himself into authorities there. >> it was just last year that he lost a child. tell us about that. >> a 2-year-old son. authorities say that child died as a result of injuries consistent with abuse. it was the toddler's mother's boyfriend who has been charged relative to that case. the young boy was living in south dakota at the same time with his mother. not living with adrian peterson. so another man charged in regards to that case. at this point we are not hearing adrian peterson speaking about the charge he now faces. but we did see he posted on twitter yesterday a couple hours before the news broke that. saying in part, "god has you
covered. don't stress or worry" and that is what we're hearing for now. >> now this one with some injuries and a case to follow. alexandria field in new york. thank you. police break up a party attended by sarah pailen and the entire family. one blogger says things got messy in alaska afterwards. words were exchanged. punches thrown maybe. >> couple actually. >> that blog is up next.
police in anchorage, alaska are investigating a party brawl that reportedly involved sarah palin's family. last saturday during a 50th birthday celebration for todd palin. >> according to police a preliminary investigation revealed a party had been taking place and a fight had broken out outside between multiple residents. and none of the parties wanted to press charges. no arrests. alcohol is believed to volcanhan a factor. some of the palin family members were in attendance at that party, unquote. >> amanda coin first broke the
story she's joining us on the phone. what happened here this is so bizarre. >> caller: first i want to say good morning. kind of in the middle -- actually in the middle of the night here almost. well, there was a party. there was a nice party. there was a band playing. it was around 70 people there. and it just got out of hand somewhere somewhere around 10:00, 11:00 or so. i think. one of -- it gets kind of confusing. it's very confusing. there is a lot of palins there. five of them were there. and from what i've been told. and i don't have firsthand witnesses of this particular part of the story. but one of willow's exboyfriends was there at the party.
and track confronted one of willow's exboyfriends around the front of the house. and there was a fight broke out between those two. and then todd got involved with that. and then that broke up. and people kind of moved to the side of the house. and then bristol and willow -- and this is a shorthand version. there is a lot of things happened in between. but bristol and willow come marching towards the owner of the house where the party is taking place. and the man that he kicked out, the boyfriend, was a guest. and then there is more firsthand witnesses to this part of it. >> so wait a minute, i'm sorry. i just want to stop you. from what you have told us, track got into an altercation with an exboyfriend of one of his sisters. >> yes. >> i need the white board.
>> yeah. can you just give us the simplest. did any other palin's get into a brawl in any way. >> just hear me out a second. todd got involved with the first part. and then in the second part, willow and bristol were there and they marched towards the owneder. and the owner tried to get them out and then bristol had words with the owner. and i get according to witnesses now. this is a woman -- we haven't gotten the palin side of the story yet. but according to witnesses he just hauled off and punched him in the face repeatedly. the guy that was punched was the owner of the house. was kicking and trying to get and bristol fell and todd got involved. and that was when i guess there was a whole bunch of people started getting involved. >> so allegedly. >> caller: allegedly it turned into a brawl about that time, yes. >> sarah palin, did she ever
throw a punch according to these witne witnesses. >> caller: i haven't heard. but i did hear she was trying to get involved. and was involved within that big brawl. but she was screaming and trying to get in the center of it and. >> okay. >> caller: and, you know, like i -- we haven't heard from the palins. so there's obviously another side to this story. >> all right. and we'll wait to hopefully hear from them. we do want to point out that sarah palin hasn't made a comment. but she did post birthday photos on her official facebook page. so there you have that. >> i don't know that we have it. but -- >> that is as clear as it is this morning, folks. >> a white board would have helped. >> amen to that. president obama says he has the legal right to go after isis. so there is a law that gives him that power? that is what people are talking about. we are going to ask the experts after the break.
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38 minu . 28 minutes past the hour. >> let's start with five things we are watching this morning. >> number one. police in pennsylvania say they are conducting several interviews in connection with a deadly shooting at the state police fair. no arrest had been made. three states are searching for at least one gunman for what's been described as an ambush. one police officer is dead and a second was shot and in stable condition at this hour. and adrian peterson is free on $15,000 bond after turning himself into police in texas. he was indicted on a felony charge of injury to a child. and peterson is accused of using
a switch, which is a really thin branch of a tree to spank his 4-year-old son. peterson's lawyer says he never intended to harm his son and deeply regrets the unintentional injury. the vikings have taken him off the roster. >> toronto mayor rob ford is ending his campaign for reelection. he said he made this decision after doctors found a tumor in his abdomen earlier this week. his brother doug is honoring ford's request to run in his place h. e made head lines after an explosive video surfaced showing him smoking crack cocaine. a george zimmerman, a driver threatened to kill him in a case of road rage. >> i was in my car, laughing to myself with his windows up. and i looked over. and george zimmerman was the driver. and they were threatening to kick my [ expletive ].
and to shoot me. >> that was the 911 call. two days later police received a phone call from the same caller. he said he saw zimmerman lurking by his workplace. d police did not arrest zimmerman because the caller did not press charges. >> the doctor at the clinic where joan rivers went into cardiac arrest last month has left the post. dr. lawrence cone is no longer serves a director or performing procedures there. the health department is investigating. president obama is planning to take the fight against isis into syria and he's telling he has the legal power to do so without congressional support. >> i have the authority to address the threat from isil. but i believe we are strongest as a nation. when the president and congress work together. >> so where does he get this authority? well it comes from the
13-year-old vote congress took in the days after 9/11. it is what allowed president george w. busch h to go al qaed. let's bring in robert zimmerman. can the president still legally use this law to fight isis militants in syria. >> at this stage of the mission he certainly has legal cover do so. because we're talking about building coalitions and training iraqi forces to combat isis and also gathering, intelligence gathering through aerial intelligence in sere yasmt byri. but clearly as we move forward congress should vote and a buy in in the process. i think what is important is we're now moving forward. secretary kerry is going to be testified in front of congress. and i this i as the president
unveils more detailed plans then i think it is incumbent on congress. we made the mistake rushing into war once before under the previous administration. i think it is better for congress to gather information and then they have a responsibility to debate and it a responsibility to vote to authorize. >> amy, let me come to you with the cnn poll shows that 72% of americans think the president should ask congress for authority to go against isis. do you think this is a new group? needs new authorization? >> well i agree with robert that the president should consult with congress. and in fact president bush back during the iraq deliberations did consult with congress and in fact congress voted for going into iraq and that conflict. but in terms of isis, my concern here is that we haven't heard from the president in terms of air strikes on isis in syria. what that is really going to look like and what that he has really going to mean in terms of
picking out targets. are we going to rely on arab partners on the ground to do that for us and by the way isis is controlling local governments in syria. so we could see massive civilian casualties as they hide among civilians fighting american and arab partner forces on the ground. so to me so far this war effort doesn't look well-planned. >> that is why, amy, let's be realistic. we are engaging in aerial intelligence gathering of syria to begin to plan it out. and i think that is the important point here. we've made the mistake and i think learned from the mistakes of rushing into war with without a proper strategy and without a proper plan. >> there was long deliberation and long discussion and t administration even presented evidence -- >> that was the database. >> actually so far there wasn't a congressional discussion but there ought to be. he say he's going to be bring it
to congress. i agree with that. but when we look at the striking isis in syria and iraq we are not talking about striking training camps in the desert. forces are embedded in the civilian populations and are we going to be relying on arab partners on the ground to tell us which building which block, which neighborhood, we don't know yet. >> the reason they have to be an important factor is realistically in order to be successful in the region, having the buy in from the sunni tribes is going to be pivotal. one of the great lessons we learned from the iraq war is when america went it alone it became a recruiting tool for al qaeda. >> we didn't go it alone. >> most of which sent best wishes. we deployed 2 1/2 million service men and women who performed brilliantly between afghanistan and iraq. but the political strategy has to be to make sure we have a arab partners and build a coalition on the ground. because that gives us credibility in trying to bring
the sunni tribes back into the mainstream. >> -- >> what is the alternative here if the drones doing the surveillance now over syria is not the proper way to go and you question the arab partners on the ground? what is the alternative? u.s. troops on the ground picking out these targets? >> one of the suggestion has been to have -- you know, we're sending special forces to have those forces embedded with arab troops to been be able to have their own eyes to see. what we discovered in afghanistan was our so called partners would actually point out targets that were political rivals that had nothing to do with defeating terrorism and the taliban. so we need to vet who we are working with. as far as the gulf arab states go, reports so far is they are skiddish about being part of the coalition. the brits and the germans have
no intention of joining us with air strikes over syria and iraq. so in fact president obama has fewer coalition allies than bush did going into afghanistan. >> the president just spoke to this issue this past wednesday. secretary kerry just recently landed in the middle east. one running a foreign policy is tougher than a right wing blog. many of the states that are reticent certainly may be privately helping us behind the scenes. >> one can hope. >> always a great conversation when we have you on. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. so the nfl deals with another pr disaster this morning. one of nfl's biggest stars turns himself in after a indictment on child abuse. >> days of the video released showing baltimore raven's player ray rice knocking out his fiancé. how should we be responding to the violence off the field? that is the conversation we're having next
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county. a shooting broke out just before 11:00 last night at this state police barracks in blooming grove. troopers tell us it happened during the shift change. as of right now police do not know if they are dealing with one or more shooters. and they also don't know what kind of weapon was use and they don't have a description of the shooter or shooters at this time. they will be continuing a search throughout the day. they tell people who live in this part of the pike county that they should keep their eyes out for anything suspicious. but they do not believe that they are in any immediate danger. police believe this attack was a target against state police. now the trooper who was hurt has been out of surgery. his injuries are not believed to be life threatening. however one trooper was killed last night. his identity is being kept until all of his next of kin are notified. all of the folks involved with this investigation here in
pennsylvania say it's been a tough night for everybody. >> all right amanda. thank you so much. and the nfl faces more harsh criticism about the way it's handling cases of domestic abuse. advocates for mens and women's groups are calling for the changes in the wake of the ray rice scandal. >> first of though a quick mention. dr. sanjay group that and jay whitfield are in malibu getting ready for a triathlon. members training alongside dr. group that, to find out how you can get involved we're going to have more next hour. ♪ [music] defiance is in our bones. defiance never grows old.
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according to domestic violence more than three women a day lose their lives to their partners. this is another call for men to stand up and take responsibility for thoughts, their words, their deeds and to get help because our silence is deafening and deadly. >> that was james brown appealing directly to men who
tuned in thursday night to watch the match-up between the baltimore ravens and pittsburgh steelers. >> the raven cut rice. she was suspended indefinitely from the nfl. and now the case has ignited a national conversation about domestic violence. >> joining us is is it psych therapist lester douglas. also director of the organization "men stopping violence." it's good to have you here and talk about this. what do you make of brown's message directed to men and the platform, the venue he chose to deliver it. >> it thought the message was right on and urgently need. among the many things i appreciated was his challenge around this very disruptive notions of masculinity. he understands that that is part of the problem of domestic violence. this very disruptive construct of what it means to be a man.
i also like that he appealed to us to really make a commitment to training and education as part of the solution. while it is important that men who commit acts of violence against women need to be held accountable, he also recognizes that if we are going to make significant transformations, we've got to educate the community about this issue. >> and how impactful is it for a man who abuses to here from a man who does not and have him say this is not cool, you have got to stop it. to have that man's voice. >> it really matters. because t because it is part of sexism. men often times don't listen to what women have to say. i know that's a surprise, right. so when it comes to a man with such prominence and a man committed to justice and he is a football guy, you know, that gives it a lot of credibility. >> i want to show you and our viewers part of a story that our
affiliate has, kgw, actually. they caught up with a high school football team who used ray rice as a case study in football violence. and we'll talk about it. watch. >> how many of you guys have seen a man hit a woman with a closed fist. wow. domestic violence is a huge issue. unfortunately kids have seen it in a high percentage and it's important to learn how to manage emotions. because for some of them is regular behavior. >> he says for some it is regular behavior. he asks how many have seen a man hit a woman with open hand or closed fist. and it's important o start this oef education of stopping violence cher when they are children. before they start dating, get married. how do you do that? >> i with we get into the schools and wherever there is
opportunity to engage the issue. you do it. because that is where the learning begins. in the home, in the school, wherever there are opportunities to address it, we can take advantage of it. >> help us understand. because i know your organization has so many different programs that help men. and again to have that male voice as the head of this organization, talking about it. there is always this idea out there that once they hit, they are always going to hit. can abusers be changed? >> absolutely yes. men do change. and we know that based on not only the men self-reporting but by partners who call us and call those organizations that work with victims and survivors and report those changes. and as far as i'm concerned that is the most credible way of knowing whether or not men change. but i want to underscore what i believe a really critical point. that why i believe it is important we create the spaces for the individual men to change their behaviors.
if we are going to make significant changes in this issue of domestic violence, that we are saying this is a significant moment to have this conversation, we have got to go after change in organizations, institution, education for the broader community. and i think the nfl, this situation is really i think demonstrating why that is critical. imagine for example if the nfl had the sensitivity, the caring, the knowledge, a victim-centered approach to the issue of domestic violence, i think we might have had a different outcome here. one, ray would have gotten the message that this is a serious issue. the nfl takes it seriously and there are going to be significant consequences not just for players but for all nfl institution. that is a major implication. when we do that we send a different message and they would have likely responded different. >> i what do you make of all the woman who wore the ray rice
jerseys to the game on thursday night. >> it's troubling. we are in a sexist culture. and part of it is there is a lot about protecting men's interests. and how much more to we need to be much more synthetthet sympat victims and survivors. the first tape. even when. >> dragging the woman out of the elevator. >> and we said hey we don't know what happened in the elevator. we got it and then we say well she hit him. it's like the witch test. you throw the woman in the water. if she survives he's a witch. what more do we need? >> we got to quitting is the question why she stayed and start asking why he hit her and -- >> thank you. >> for more on ways to help victims of domestic violence,
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isis. >> and in that interview -- blasts her as they tried to get her son out of the captivity. >> as an american i was embarrassed and appalled. i think our efforts to get jim freed were an annoyance, you know. >> an annoyance to the government. >> yes -- yeah. and it didn't seem to be in our strategic interest, if you will. i was appalled as an american. jim would have been saddened. jim believed to the end that his country would come to their aid. >> diane foley also says they were not allowed to raise ransom money because it was illegal and they might be prosecuted and there would be no prisoner trade or military action. >> and she says they were told to just trust that their son would be freed.
>> the foley family has set up an organization to the things james was passionate about. jims foley fund dot according.o more. >> the 11:00 hour of news room starts right now. two state police troopers gunned down in an ambush outside their barracks. one is dead t, the other in stable condition. now a man hunt is under way in three states and who else will help america take on isis? pushing for international support this morning in cairo. >> the bottom line is terrorists like isil have no place in the modern world. but it is up to the world to
enforce that truth. >> plus another headache for the nfl. one of its biggest stars out on bail today after being charged with child abuse. while adrian peterson's lawyer says it wasn't abuse. it is a form of discipline. good morning. we start with hour with an urgent man hunt in pennsylvania for anyone involved in ambushing state troopers late last night. one trooper was killed another wounded. police are searching for suspect or suspects. they don't have a description yet. nick we've just heard that police have been a able to interview several people. are these people who may have seen something? or people who may know the shooter? >> we don't know the details who
they are talking to or why. we do know they are conducting the interviews and no arrest is made yet and the serarch is on ghoing f going for the person or people who did this. >> the individual who perpetrated this heinous crime is still at large. we don't have the description or any real information on the identity. >> whoever it was the person or persons shot and killed one pennsylvania state trooper and injured another overnight. the shooting occurred around 11:00 p.m. about 35 miles outside of scranton, pennsylvania. investigators are following a number of leads but do not have a motive. the names of the troopers have not been released. doctors overnight performed emergency surgery and he remains in stable condition.
>> the attack seems to be directed at the state police. we are putting every resource available to them into action. >> reporter: and it is not just pennsylvania officers involved in the search. hundreds of officers from multiple agencies, including new york and new jersey are involved in the hunt. on the ground and in the air. >> we are also focused on our investigation. i'm sure that this is going to be a very difficult time for them. as it is going to be for all of us when we are done working to get this terrible crime solved. >> such a terrible crime there. the loss of one state trooper. this shooting happened in a rural area. very few homes in the area. no shelter in place order given by authorities but they are asking people in the area to keep an eye out. deb. >> and does this seem like a crime of opportunity? a retaliation? any threats made against any of these troopers or against the barracks itself? >> you know you heard the head of the police there talk at a
press conference earlier. he gave limited details other than to say the shooting happened at about 11:00 p.m. during a shift change. one officer going on shift and another coming on shift and we know it is very difficult to get onto the police barracks. there is obstacles and procedures to get into the barracks. so it is shocking and surprising that he was able -- the suspect or suspects were able to get so close to carry out this attack. but, you know, as we mentioned at the top of this report, interviews ongoing. no arrests just yet deb. >> very interesting. nick valencia thank you very much. and the nfl has been on the defense over the ray rice controversy. and now it has another star in hot water. minnesota vikings running back adrian petersson turned himself into authorities in texas early this morning. he's indicted on on a child abuse charge. he will miss tomorrow's game
against the patriots. what is peterson himself saying about the actions allegedly taken towards his 4-year-old son. >> well his attorney speaking on his behalf, saying the charge is related to peterson allegedly spanking his son with a switch. now, the warrant went out for peterson's arrest. he left his home in minnesota overnight. traveled to texas, where he turned himself in to face the authorities there. his attorney has gone on by saying this. adrian is a loving father who used his adjustment as a parent to discipline his son. he used the same kind of discipline with his child that he experience as a child growing up in east texas and the attorney goes on to say it is important to remember that adrian never intended to harm his son and deeply regrets the unintentional injury. he also states peterson is fully cooperating and the vikings have decided to deactivate him from sunday's game. he will not play.
they add they are still in the process of gathering information regarding the legal situation. >> it is interesting to see how quickly the team reacted. they know now there is a zero tolerance with any abuse. whether domestic or alleged child abuse. when you look at the reaction of people online. are they -- when it comes to discipline and children, a lot of people say oh it's nothing more than my parents did to me. do you see that online? what is the reaction. >> this is such a sensitive issue, this week particularly because we've been talking about ray rice and seeing that video in the elevator and his attack on then fiancé and now wife. so people are looking at that and talk about these horrific incidences of abuse you see at times. they also know when you talk about children some will quickly say, hey look this is how i grew up. parents are in charge of disciplining children. and there are a lot of people who say look you crossed had line and the line is clear. so fans have been speaking out and they are showing boets side
of the debate here. let's listen to some. >> very disappointing. >> he's great obviously he's a role model. and to hear that just kind of blows you away. >> he didn't do anything bad. he just disciplined his kid in a way that most people, you know, don't know what a switch is this. >> i've done a lot of done things as a kid. did i get a kick in the butt? yes. should somebody be suspended for that? i don't agree with it. >> and deb, you certainly heard a few fans defending adrian peterson. partly because they feel like it is a parent's right to discipline a child to a certain extent. but also he's got a lot of fans. he was a star on the vikings and this probably shouldn't surprise us to see people defending him. because you saw the same thing with ray rice earlier this week. so many people still wearing his jersey to the raven's steelers game. >> right. and also in the case of adrian he immediately went to the
authorities. so it seems like whatever did happen he's willing to go and face it as opposed to what every everyone is saying now with respect to ray rice and that is more of that cover up. who knew what? what did he do? did he try to dodge the charges against him? so all of that. interesting and immediate reaction. >> so peterson who cooperated with authorities, spoke to the grand jury and statements from his attorney now. >> thanks so much. appreciate the report. and now more on the nfl's domestic violence problem and the outrage from the public over how the league handled alleged abusers. roger goodell learned about rice knocking out his then fiancé from rice himself. goodell says not so fast. rice didn't tell him the whole truth. now he has some words for rice. here is miguel marquez. >> roger goodell on the offensive. in a let making official the
indefinite suspension, the nfl chief lays blame at the feet of ray rice himself for misleading him about what happened in that atlantic city casino elevator in february. in a letter to the nfl players association obtained by espn, goodell referencing the second video showing the inside of the elevator. he writes "this video shows a starting different sequence of events from what you and your representative stated when we met on june 16th." the question of what rice told goodell during that meeting now under intense scrutiny. four sources telling espn rice was honest telling goodell he hit or punched his then fiancé ms. palmer. >> did you wish you had seen this videotape before it was released by tmv. >> absolutely. >> why? >> that's why e we asked on several occasions.
because when we make a decision we want all the information available. and obviously that was -- when we met with ray rice and his representatives, it was ambiguous about what actually happened. >> on wednesday, goodell continued to blame rice for misleading him. >> the description of what happened was not consistent with whether the videotape was. and, you know, when you see that, that was clear. >> the "wall street journal" reporting just yesterday goodell told nfl owners he was led to believe palmer's unconsciousness was the result of her falling as both of them struck each other. regardless of what was said in the commissioner's meeting, anyone only had to read the initial can't filed the day of the incident, it was publicly available and widely reported for months and clear as day. rice struck her with his hand rendering her unconscious, cnn
new york. the battle against isis building a strong united front against the terror organization. that is what sec secretary of state kerry is trying to do now. he's in cairo. egypt a key ally in the region. traveling with secretary kerry live from cairo, elise what the secretary have to do to make this trip a success? to be able to come back and say it's a lock. >> well deb, i think he wants, you know, commitments from the international community, particularly the arab world he was just visiting, to join the global coalition. whose going to do what, whether they are going to contribute to a military campaign, the diplomatic part, the financial part, the intelligence. that is all going to be worked out particularly in coming weeks of the united nations general assembly. but what secretary wants is for the arab world to say we stand with the united states in combatting isis.
today kerry was in egypt, really the heart of the arab world and asking the egyptians to crack down on the financing and foreign fighters that are transiting egypt into iraq and syria, which helps isis recruiting. take a listen to a short time ago. >> if fathe fact is that in tod globalized world it is only a matter of time before the threat of terrorism anywhere becomes the threat of terrorism everywhere. that has certainly been proven true in the case of isil. it is an organization whose brutality and shear evil knows no bounds. >> and here in egypt, u.s. officials are telling us that some of those foreign fighters that are transiting through egypt into iraq and syria are actually coaching some of these extremist groups that egypt is
battling inside. so that's why kerry is saying this is such huge problem. and saying use religious leaders to speak out against isis in friday prayers in the sermons. the top cleric in egypt speaking out saying isis is not following true islam. so those are the kind of messages that u.s. is looking for from leaders and playing really that historic role that it's always played as a leader in the arab role. >> all right. and obviously there has to be a buy-in there for this to potentially be successful. thanks so much for us there in cairo with secretary john kerry. next president obama says a coalition is ready to defeat isis. we'll hear from a former tank battalion commander in iraq. plus the will the legal trouble of ray rice and adrian
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>> the isis terror force could be significantly larger than the initial estimated 10,000. they talked tablabout the president's plan to arm rebels in syria to fight. >> i think it's necessary. if you don't arm the rebels you leave them in a position between the extreme groups like isis and al nushra and the other armies. so i think you have to do. if you set this incredibly high standards, you know, you could put any number. the reality is that is not what
opposition and gorilla groups like that are typically made of. >> and retired u.s. army colonel john noggal. also the author of the "knife fights, a memorandum of the modern." and does it appear that the u.s. is late to the game when it comes to krolli icontrolling is? >> i really wish we decided to arm the syrian rebels in summer of 2012 when secretary of state clinton and then cia directors then chose not to. it is going to be harder to arm them now. isis is much stronger now. it's apparently doubled in strength just over the course of the last summer. and many of the best leaders of the syrian opposition we could have armed in the summer of 2012
have unfortunately been killed since then by al qaeda, isis or president assad and syria's forces. it's good we're making this decision. i'm afraid it's later than i wish. and it's going to be a longer harder war than it needed to be. >> so the rebels have essentially lost some of their key leadership, those taken out by isis and al qaeda as you say. but now that you have the syrian revolutionary council that combines the army with the other rebels plus tribes. is there a swelling, a growth of sunni, people disenchanted with what isis is doing? are we seeing a stronger base for it so now the u.s. knows exactly who they should be arming? which was one of the big questions in the beginning. >> i think you are right on the first part. that is, i think the rebel forces are coalescing isis like al qaeda and iraq, which i
thought a decade ago is so horrible to its own people, so draconian. that once it garners territory, takes over ground the natives tend to rise up against that leadership. that is the good news. the bad news is we are not exactly sure who to arm. we don't have as many boots on the ground or intelligence agents close to syria as we would like. so we are going to have to be doing more careful intelligence gathering. i'm afraid that is going to take a while and building an army out of the syrian rebels will take years and not months. >> the question is, is that the goal of the u.s.? to build a syrian army? or really to help the syrian rebels that appear to be friendly or anti-isis i should say to help provide the eyes on the ground and perhaps change the game so these rebels that are antiisis can then go in. >> that is correct. so we are going to have to form an army out of those rebels, i'm
afraid. the isis that we are fighting now is more capable than the al qaeda in iraq that i fought a decade ago. these guys have taken and held ground. they have captured a lot of real military equipment. some from the syrian government, the syrian forces of president assad. much in the iraqi government. so we are going to need not just air strikes but a much more capable force on the ground in iraq, kurdish part of iraq and syria that currently exists. and that is the hard part. >> so a stronger more deadly isis but perhaps more people fighting against them now with the help of the u.s. thank you for your time. >> it's good to be with you. and a drunken brawl at a house party. and some who attended say the
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party in alaska. police say alcohol was involved and a few flying fists as well. suzanne has more. >> the palin's reality show on tv features the family dog, target shooting and caribou hunting. but according to blogger amanda coin who broke the story out of the anchorage, alaska, reality may be a lot more interesting. >> i would describe it as a big brawl. as a lot of people and other people there were describing it. a big crazy brawl. >> it allegedly happen here last saturday at a birthday party in a suburban neighborhood. sarah her husband todd, bristol willow and track pulled up in a limo together. it was todd's 50th birthday so he was one of those the party was celebrating. >> track approached one of willow palin's ex-boyfriends and
got into some sort of scuffle with him. then todd palin somehow got involved in that scuffle. that was broken up. willow and bristol started approaching the family of the ex boyfriend. bristol, witnesses say began to punch the owner of the house in the face. >> coin says he talked to several eye witnesses, including eric thompson b who told this to abc news. >> bristol just reached back and started clocking him. and she hit him. reached way back here and caught him right in the chin, you know, i counted at least six times. >> sarah palin then herself according to witnesses got involved and tried to get into the middle of the brawl and was screaming and yelling. >> cnn cannot independently confirm the palins were involved. but the anchorage police say the family was there.
telling us just before midnight anchorage police respond toaded to a verbal and physical altercation taking place outside f a residence. alcohol was believed to be a factor in the incident. some of the family members were in attendance. palins have not commented on the incident. sarah palin did post on her facebook page the next day but made no mention of the party. she says i was traveling yesterday so i'm posting todd's 50th birthday greeting a day late. >> anchorage police tell us at the time of the incident none of the involved wanted to press charges and no arrests were made. >> i guess that is what you call a birthday bash. well the secretary of state is on his middle east tour
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egypt's president. and the secretary generally of the arab league is also the speaking with as well. kerry says the united states is grateful that egypt and the arab league have come out and supported had coalition quote, every step of the way. a man hunt is stretching across three states right now after two state troopers are shot. they were ambushed outside their barracks late last night in blooming grove north outside of the philadelphia. police have not identified a motif nor the shooter or a suspect. they are currently vving one person now. >> president obama vowed to degrade and destroy isis. secretary of state kerry making a big push for support of the mission. but not everybody is on board. sally combs joins me now. you have an op ed on cnn and you say there are a couple of big mistakes that have occurred her.
and one is you said u.s. intervention is what destabilized had region in the first place. going back is not going to stabilize it. talk to me about that. >> let's break this down. it was our military action in iraq in the first place that created a political crisis, not to mention wide spread unpopularity of the united states, which gave rise to isis. this is something universal agreed upon. so now there is this political problem. there is a political crisis both in syria and iraq, this instability, the civil wars. these are political issues. they need a political solution. we are going to go back in with a military solution. and we are going to simply inflame those tensions more. and by the way the great irony in this is the only reason we're going with a military solution is because of the political motives here at home. when actually it is counterproductive. >> at the same time don't you see right now isis has about
10,000 troops. the cia says now they could have as many as 30,000 troops. don't they have to be stopped so a political solution can be incorporated in that part of the world? because that entire region is totally destabilized. how do you destabilize it with isis? >> first i want to see isis stopped. of course we want to stop them. that is an agreed upon statement. the second thing is how do you stop them and also do how do you not insight more team to join isis or other terrorist networks? so we know most terrorists don't wake up hating america. most cases this is a motive and often bombing, destruction of city, killing of the civilians which we know these kind of the bombing campaigns create. the first war in the first case the war in iraq created more terrorists. that was the result of us having the bombing campaigns. so it is not a matter of if we stop isis. a matter of how and what role
does the united states play. because we don't have to stop every bad guy around the world. that doesn't have to be our job. >> yes. air strikes you say will make radical ideology a lot worse than it already is. the truth is is there something going on in the region that you have a number of these pom coming out. they are going to be supportive. fighting against iraq and syria. how do you for example stop isis when air strikes did prove effective in the mosul dam? you are never going to reverse the ideology because arguably many don't see the islamic state as muslim to turbibegin with. >> one thing a lot of weapons isil is fighting with is a lot of weapons that u.s. has brought into the region that have been seized and taken over. so there are things we can do. cutoff funding and putting pressure on states and entities to stop buying the oil they now control. we can play a role as part of a productive national team of
nations. but we don't have to necessarily take the lead. and we certainly don't have to take the lead militarily. we can allow iran for instance as much as that seems scary to take the lead. they have less to lose and more to gain from being involved. and i'm glad we're having this conversation. part of the drum up to all this happening has been this notion that isis poses an immediate threat to americans. it's been very clear every sector there is no immediate threat. but we start bombing them and the chances of the retaliation, the chances we provoke the kind of thing we are exactly afraid of. >> although arguably there is no immediate threat until we are attacked which is what we saw on 9/11. >> -- >> right. and the president certainly did not strengthen blocking any of these people from coming back. sally, thanks so much. we could talk a lot longer but we're out of time. thank you. and another day, another nfl
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and our great friend, colleague and person we look up to fredericka whitfield is in california participating in the malibu triathlon to raise money for hospital los angeles. and training for all that swimming, biking, running is not easy. and not for the faint of heart. >> reporter: picturesque malibu. home to hollywood stars and the malibu triathlon. i'm here. i'm so excited to do this race this weekend. at the same time i have butterflies. i've wanted to do this race so many years and along the way had
so many excuses, until this. >> nearly everyone on our 2014 team has been through a major health crisis. >> inspiration and a nudge from cnn's resident super man dr. sanjay group that. >> anyone can get more fit, whether training for a triathlon or just training for life. and fred, maybe you can join us. back to you. >> okay. sanjay. yes i'm in. plunging in all the way. swimming countless lapse. from pool, to open water. runni ning at all hours between work and family time. biking. >> whew. we are going up it. i just have to talk myself through it the whole time. >> none of it easy but eventually feeling a thrilling adrenaline rush. >> feel great when i get to the
top of the hill. whew, but going up it, killer. >> so this is what i signed up for. thousands of people at the start line, together in giant mass, into the pacific ocean, jockeying, elbowing, kicking for position. swimming a half mile, fighting wave, each other, possibly cool water cramping and any other psychological hang ups. then transition to an 18-mile bike, followed by a 4-mile run. what in the world have i gotten myself into? training on my own, and sometimes with others. am i nuts? before the big race i've been training with the pros in the pool if atlantic triathlon club about 2 and a half months now to work on strength and of course my endurance, which i'm going to need the most. wish me luck.
in one-hour sessions, up to 1900 meters in drills and mock races. >> of the three disciplines, biking, running, swimming, this is my least favorite. and this is why. i feel like people are passing me like i'm standing still and i'm putting all this effort into it. so what i've had to work on is my gear shifting. i hope this course is flat. all right, it is just after 9:00 and my three kids are now asleep and this is the only time i have to get a nightly run in. so this is me time. me and the ssy ka sick kay disa and an occasion t bat.
i have an achilles injury. i hurt it running earlier this year and made worse snow skiing. i've been in physical therapy ever since. so if i'm really hurting in that run you will see me race walking like this. all right. back to malibu. so i will modify my run if i have and i will step up my bike because i must. now how do i navigate the ocean? that is where triathlon coach mary cane comes in. mary how to do it get out there without the wave s controlling me. >> either one two over are two, cut through when they are big waves and third one white water and go swimming. >> when trying to come in on a
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roger goodell has delivered billions of dollars in tv contracts to nfl owners. and guess what? they love him for it. but now his handling of the ray rice domestic violence case, well, any decisions he makes regarding adrian peterson, that could trigger a backlash from sponsors and the fans that spend millions of those dollars. this is especially true for female fans, who the league has courted heavily with breast
cancer awareness campaigns. remember all those pink ribbons and the towels? well, according to scarborough research, 45% of the nfl's fans are women. but so far, the controversy hasn't hurt the size of the tv audience. ratings for rice's former team, the ravens, were up 108% on thursday night. joining me is keith reid, a sports business analyst and editor for espn, the magazine. and look, sponsors buy the ads that make all this money. what are the sponsors saying? are they outraged? >> sponsors have actually been pretty quiet about this. the nfl has a whole lot of clout. it's got people to put a lot of pressure on sponsors. the sponsors are watching this very, very closely. and some of them have pulled away. of course, the ones who were involved with ray rice himself, have pulled away from ray rice. taking away his contracts, not paying him anymore. but you have not seen any sponsors, as of this point, make a point of commenting on the ray rice issue or pulling out, away from the league. >> you know, it's fascinating. does that mean also, because, look, what is the hold that they
have? because we also haven't heard from any of the sort of -- from susan g. komen, she didn't come -- that organization did not come out. the nfl did a major campaign with breast cancer. but they didn't come out and say, look, the nfl has to address this, immediately. they were quiet, too. >> right. here's the challenge for sponsors, right? you're invested very, very heavily. it could cost up to $10 million per brand to be involved with the nfl for a season, over the length of a contract. so, that's a huge investment. and of course, this is all about the money. i mean, we know that really, this is -- this should be about the safety, the health and safety aft young woman involved. and of all women who are fans and in the country. but at the end of the day, for sponsors and for the league, it comes down to money. so those brands are really, really leery of damaging those relationships, even though the nfl is taking a beating in the public right now. >> do you think women will -- do you think female fans want more or do you think they're just sort of also waiting to see what happens? saying, look, goodell's not such a bad guy, he's done good things
for the league. >> no, i think roger goodell's reputation is tarnished and may be tarnished forever by this. but i think there's a dichotomy for female fans and fans broadly, right? you really, really loathe what you saw on that videotape and you really, really loathe the league's response to it and how they've botched it so far. but fans are still fans. they still love the nfl. they still love their team. they still want to watch. so you're not seeing people leave the league in droves, because there's a separation about how you feel about the game of football and how you feel about what you saw on that videotape. >> and it's not the incident, it's the cover-up. and there's a real feeling that roger goodell, the standard he holds the players to, he didn't hold that same standard. he said, rice didn't tell me the whole story, and it's his job to know the whole story. that's what people are having trouble with. >> that's a big problem for him, the way this has been handled from the very beginning, you came out and gave a lenient punishment and a greater punishment and changed the policy. and then we found out that the
league may have known more than they said they knew. and it looks at the very least like roger goodell wasn't in control and that harms him. keith reed, thanks so much for coming on today. and what do michael jackson, harry houdini, and general dwight eisenhower have in common? well, that's coming up, straight ahead. i make a lot of purchases for my business.
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>> reporter: in the heat of war, in the cool of peace, and in the daily struggle with life, great souls have left their marks. and now at the national archives, those marks are getting their due in a show of historic signatures. jennifer johnson is the curator. >> i think the power of the signature can't be overemphasized. whether it's a letter from an individual who had a question for the government or if it's a president who is signing after congress and making those words law, the power is hard to walk away from. >> reporter: general dwight eisenhower traveled much of europe in world war ii, collecting these signatures on bank notes from people he met all along the away. there is much joy. this is michael jackson's patent for a dancing shoe, where he signed his name with a flourish, as did magician harry houdini, who put his pen to his draft card, as if it were yet another spectacular trick. >> and it was truly part of his personality at the time and that is his signature. >> reporter: there are
surprises, too, like a calling card left for vice president andrew johnson by john wilkes booth, the very day booth assassinated president abraham lincoln. or the wedding registry of adolf hitler. >> i think some of the most powerful ones, or at least the most interesting to me, are the examples you might not expect to find. >> reporter: katharine hepburn, frank sinatra, jackie robinson, and so many others pulled from the billions of papers in the archives. each making a mark in history. tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> and we have much more just ahead in the "newsroom". it all starts right now. and hello, everyone. i'm deborah feyerick in for fredricka whitfield. and here are some of the top stories we're following for you in the "cnn newsroom." america on a mission, trying to nail down support for the battle
against isis. >> bottom line is that terrorists like isil have no place in the modern world. >> secretary of state john kerry seeks support from critical allies in the middle east. we are going to tell you if he got it, just ahead. and another nfl player in hot water. minnesota vikings running back adrian peterson charged with felony child abuse. hear the allegations and the defense. plus, pressing questions about what the nfl knew about ray rice's violent fight with his wife in that elevator. commissioner roger goodell claims the running back misled him. the growing seemingly endless controversy, coming up this hour. and first up, the battle against isis and the intense u.s. effort to build an international coalition to destroy the terror group. today, secretary of state john
kerry is in egypt, a country he says can play an important role in fighting extremism. >> we're very grateful that both egypt and the arab league have supported this coalition every step of the way. and in each of the meetings that i had today, we discussed how we could better accelerate the efforts in bringing more nations on board and in dividing up the responsibilities. >> and we are covering this story from all angles. elise labott in egypt and retired colonel rick francona here in new york with us. let's start first in cairo. and elise, first of all, is anything tangible coming out of the talks that john kerry is having? is it troops? is it money? is it support? what's coming out of these talks? >> well, right now, no specifics, deb. it's really kind of this general commitment that they're going to support the coalition. and who's going to do what? there's talks behind the scenes.
and clearly the u.s. has ideas of what it wants. but that's really going to be hammered out later next week in france, where secretary kerry will be attending a conference in paris, of coalition countries. and at the u.n. general assembly, where it's going to top the agenda. but today here in egypt, secretary kerry really looking for egypt to take that role as the kind of heart and soul of the arab world. and take that leadership role, not only in stopping the flow of foreign fighters into iraq and syria, but the financing of isis, which a lot of money goes through egypt. which is really the lifeblood of isis. and what the u.s. officials are telling us is that some of these foreign fighters that are traveling through egypt, into iraq and syria, are actually coaching some of the extremist groups in the sinai, in egypt, which is why the u.s. says, this is as much a threat to egypt as to any other country in the world. u.s. also looking for egypt to get its religious clerics to speak out against isis.
you know, in the mosques, in friday prayers, and recently there was a very tough statement coming from the top religious cleric in egypt, the grand murphy, condemning isis and the beheading of those american journalists. so those are the kind of statements that the u.s. is looking for, from egypt and from other countries in the region, deb. >> and do any of these countries see their own survival at risk, if isis gains an even greater foothold? because it would seem if they don't buy into this, then, ultimately, their own governments could potentially be threatened. >> reporter: well, i think everyone clearly sees what the threat is. if you saw in saudi arabia, some of their borders had been threatened. certainly in countries like jordan and lebanon, isis is inching up to the borders there, and some of those border crossings have changed hands. and i think what the u.s. sees is a real wake-up call for the region. and i do think that a lot of them see it as a threat. they don't want to say that publicly, but i think it may not be that the arab nations participate with military strikes, some will offer
overflight rights, basing, but most is going to be intelligence, it's going to be stopping that flow of foreign fighters into iraq and syria. stopping the flow of financing, and the messaging aspect the u.s. feels is very important. it wants sunni arabs to be speaking out, that this is not islam, and as secretary kerry said, isis is not islamic and it's not a state, deb. >> all right. elise labott for us there, thank you so much. we're going to be checking in with you a little later on. you're right there, got a front seat as well. and also joining us, the former top commander of american troops in afghanistan, weighing in on what's going on here, obama's plan to take out isis. retired four-star general stanley mcchrystal says isis is a significant threat to iraq. we're joined by rick francona. cnn's erin burnett last night did ask the general, mcchrystal, what happens if president obama's strategy to fight isis doesn't meet the goal. >> if you look back in history, typically, when a strategy
identifies ends and you establish ways and means to achieve it, and what happens if suddenly the ways and means you identify don't achieve your ends? then you're in a position whether you either change your objective, reduce it or change, or you have to make that decision to cross the rubicon and do something else. and leaders in america and around the world have faced that over and over. and president obama may face that as well. >> and general mcchrystal also told erin that isis is vulnerable because now it has seized territory and it's got to hold on to it, to defend it. so let's talk more about president obama's plan for defeating isis. will the u.s. get enough support to make it work? cnn military analyst, retired colonel, rick francona is here. and rick, first of all, let's talk about this. the u.s. is building a coalition. but, still, even if they go in, even if they get a lot of different people who will buy into this, don't you need people on the ground to be able, not only when the u.s. strikes hit, that they're able to hold that ground? that's what we saw with the
persian -- the kurds up in northern iraq, with mosul dam. so the strikes worked, but then they came in and held it. >> that's the missing piece we haven't identified so far. we know what's going to happen in iraq. we've templated this out. we've done it in mosul. mosul's a great example on how we could do the rest of iraq. you've got to roll these guys up, bottle them up, and then destroy them. and iraq makes sense. that's easy to do. not easy to do, but it's rational. you can see how that happens. syria, on the other hand, presents a whole new complicated issue. because as you say, who's going to be on the ground there? are we going to rely on the free syrian army to do this? well, they're not really in the position. the free syrian army isn't really located in the area where isis is. so somebody's going to have to go in there. is it going to be other arab countries? i don't see anybody willing to pony up any trips for that. no one has committed any troops yet. so is it going to be american troops? well, we pretty much ruled that
out. so who's it going to be? we've not identified that. >> and it's interesting, one of the reasons isis was allowed to get as big as it did is because there was so much discontent among sunnis, especially in iraq, effectively, the prime minister at the time shut them out, isolated them, so the sunnis began to fight with isis. now that there's a new prime minister, a new government in iraq, do you think that isis will begin to lose some of its support, especially since its credit card is assassination, is beheadings, is brutality, is getting rid of christianity. will those sunnis maybe -- >> that's the hope. and the president has been very clear, he says, we need an all-inclusive government in iraq, and that will help break the hold that isis has over the western part of the country. unfortunately, isis' hold right now is so strong in that area, that i don't see that could happen without some military force being applied to isis, as we're doing with the air strikes and that. when will the sunnis have had
enough? when will they tire of the radical theology that isis presents? we don't know when that's going to be? we don't know when that balance will tip. i'm not sure that the government in baghdad has addressed that issue yet. i don't think they present an alternative that the sunnis are willing to sign up. there's still so much anti-shia feeling in this area -- >> hatred, is what it is. >> -- that isis is still strong. >> let's talk about the notion of boots on the ground. the president has said, no boots on the ground, but let's be clear. effectively, we've got advisers who are there. they're there. that's boots, am i wrong? >> no, you're correct. there are boots on the ground. there will be more boots on the ground. and i think that we do ourselves no favors by limiting ourselves by saying, there will be no boots on the ground. at some point, we may need to put boots on the ground. if isis presents a real threat to the united states, if the administration believes that, then it is incumbent on us to address our own security. and that means american boots on the ground. you cannot outsource your own security, which is what it
sounds like we're trying to do. >> right. and as we've seen that over the course of the last decade. we're in, we're out, we're kind of in, kind of out, we're going back. so we'll have to watch that. all right. rick francona, we'll be bringing you back, so don't go too far. and state troopers gunned down, ambushed at their barracks, and the suspect or suspects are still at large. we'll have more on the urgent manhunt underway in pennsylvania. plus, one of the nfl's biggest stars, he has been booked on alleged child abuse. but was it abuse or was it, in his words, a form of discipline? we'll hear both sides, coming up straight away.
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it happened at the state police barracks in blooming grove, which is just east of scranton, pennsylvania. well, officers from all over the northeast are on the hunt. several people have been interviewed in the case. >> we are certainly seeking the cooperation of the people. we don't want to alarm people. we have so many law enforcement officers in the area right now. i'm confident that we have the situation under control. but, that's where it is. we don't know much more about the assailant, so we can't really say what the -- that the situation is completely in hand. >> yeah, not a lot of information that they're working on there. police have not identified either of the troopers who were shot. they have not identified a motive, as well. and now to what may be one of the rockiest starts to a football season for the nfl. the league already dealing with an alleged domestic violence
problem, involving some of its players and now, one of its biggest stars have been charged with child abuse. alexandra field explains. >> reporter: and deb, adrian peterson left minnesota overnight, making the trip to texas to turn himself into authorities with a warrant out for his arrest. a grand jury indicted peterson. peterson's attorney explains that the charges related to peterson using a switch to spank his son. the attorney put out a statement, defending peterson, saying that this was a form of discipline. he says, quote, adrian is a loving father who used his judgment as a parent to discipline his son. he used the same kind of discipline with his child that he experienced as a child, growing up in east texas. that statement goes on to say that it is important to remember that adrian never intended to harm his son and deeply regrets the unintentional injury. that attorney also points out that adrian peterson has been cooperating with authorities, who have been leading this
investigation. as for the vikings, they have also immediately responded to this. they put out their own statement, saying they're in the process of gathering information, regarding the legal situation, involving adrian peterson. the vikings are set to square off against the patriots in minnesota on sunday. right now, adrian peterson has been deactivated. he will not be able to play in that game. we haven't heard from peterson himself, although he did put out a tweet on his twitter account, just hours before the news broke. part of that tweet saying, a quote that says, god has you covered. don't stress or worry. for now, that is the most that we are hearing from peterson, but, again, his attorney saying that he will continue to cooperate with investigators. deb? >> thanks, alexandra. well, was this child abuse or as his lawyers claim, was it simply a form of discipline? our legal experts will weigh in on that and what the law says, just ahead. and also coming up in the "cnn newsroom," she was there in 2007 and hillary clinton is returning to the iowa steak fry.
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right now the u.s. is building support for its campaign to destroy the isis terror group, and here's what we know. today, secretary of state john kerry is in egypt. he held talks with the country's president and secretary general of the arab league. afterwards, kerry said that it's increasingly clear that the, quote, message of hate, unquote, is being rejected. and the family of a british man held hostage by isis has issued a plea to his captors to contact them. david haan's life was threatened. foley's mother is blasting the u.s. government for how it treated her and her family, as they tried in vain to free her son from captivity. she sat down with anderson cooper for this exclusive interview. >> we were told we could not raise ransom, that it was illegal. we might be prosecuted.
>> you were told you would actually be prosecuted. >> yes. >> that was a real possibility. told that many times. we were told that our government would not exchange prisoners, would not do a military action. so we were just told to trust that he would be freed somehow, miraculous. and he wasn't, was he? we americans failed him. i -- it's nobody's fault, it's just the fault of a lack of discussion around it. and understanding. >> and despite that criticism, national security adviser susan rice praised diane foley and defended the government's efforts to free the u.s. journalist. >> she's an extraordinary woman, she did an amazing job on behalf of her family and with her
husband and other children, to do everything possible, leave no stone unturned, to try to bring jim home safely. we're all heartbroken that that was not possible. but i and others in the u.s. government work very hard with diane foley and her family, to try to be supportive, to try to provide what information we could. and of course, as you know, the president ordered a very daring and very well-executed rescue operation, when, on the only occasion we had what we thought was fresh intelligence about the whereabouts of jim foley and the other hostages. unfortunately, they were no longer there. >> and diane foley also told anderson cooper that she is embarrassed about how the government handled her son's plight and that freeing james did not seem to be in the united states' quote, strategic interest, unquote.
and some very strong words from pope francis this morning. he said that war is madness and he hinted at world war iii, as the u.s. builds a coalition to fight the brutal terror group, isis. he made these remarks while paying homage to fallen soldiers a at the italian world war i memorial near the italian/austrian border. >> translator: war ruins everything. even the bonds between brothers. war is irrational. its only plan is to bring destruction. it seeks to grow by destroying. >> and cnn's senior vatican analyst, john alan, joins me now from denver. and john, popes have always given speeches against war. what do you think makes this pope's message any different? >> reporter: well, deborah, i don't think there's anything original in the message. as you mentioned, this
denunciation of world, and then the pope announced this, i think what's unique about frances, what he does to try to back this up. and he is willing to roll the dice on some fairly bold initiatives. a year ago, when the western powers were contemplating going to war in syria, he called the 1.2 billion catholics in the world to a special day of prayer and fasting to try to stop that and he was largely successful. last june, he brought the presidents of israel and palestine for an unprecedented peace prayer in the vatican gardens. now, that was not successful in stopping the conflict in gaza, but frances says he believes it's opened a door that he wants to try to walk through. and we now know this week, he's planning to travel to turkey in late november, a trip he hopes can take him as close as he can possibly get to the iraq border, to try to meet with refugees against isis. that might be a chance for him to launch another initiative, such as, and this has been talked about, inviting muslim leaders to sit down with him to talk about how together they
might be able to combat religious extremism. so, deborah, i think the unique element with frances is not what he says, it's what he does. >> it's so interesting, because he is going to turkey, he is going to hopefully meet with some of the people, but in the end, you've got all these disparate heads of these factions in syria, some also in iraq. how does he reach out to them personally? because you can reach out to the people, but can the people really change the message of what's going on with isis? >> well, i think, first of all, frances, one of the distinctive touches of his diplomatic style is his personal engagement. i think what you may well see him do is try to reach out to the so-called moderate voices, that is the mainstream leaders of islam in the middle east and in other parts of the world, to try to come together with him personally, to see what they might be able to do to project a different message. but on the other hand, i think we also should say that pope
francis' message about isis is somewhat unique, and in the last quarter century, the vatican has been kind of instinctively hostile to every western, and particularly, every american use of force in the middle east. they opposed the two gulf wars, poepsed the war in afghanistan. but in this particular case, francis has also said that it is morally legitimate to try to stop an unjust aggressor, which is a kind of indirect yellow light for these american strikes. so i think you're going to see francis moving on two levels. one is, trying to do something long-term to change the game, but in the short-term, i think also acknowledging that the use of force in this case may be the best of the bad options we've got. >> right. all right, pretty forceful there, john alan, thanks so much. interesting as always that he's calling it morally legitimate to stop an aggressor. all right, john, thanks. . and we are going to be switching gears back to the nfl next.
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but his lawyers says he did so, quote, much like he experienced as a child growing up in east texas. he called it a whooping. well, let's bring in our legal team. colonel defense attorney tonya miller, and richard herman, a new york criminal defense attorney and law professor. and richard, i want to start with you. not everyone who sees this story views it necessarily as abuse. they say, look, my dad whooped me, i whoop the kid. is that the kind of defense that actually even holds up in court? >> deb, that doesn't hold up anywhere. the fact that his daddy did it to him and his daddy's daddy did it to him, and rusty harden, his attorney, a slob guy, running around saying, he didn't intend -- he didn't intend what? he took a willow branch, stripped the leaves off the willow branch, stuffed the leaves in the 4-year-old's mouth, made the 4-year-old strip, and bent him over, and whipped him, he lashed him 15 to 20 times. he's 6'1", almost 200 pounds of solid muscle, probably bench
presses 400 pounds. he didn't intend what? he beat the crap out of this kid? he's going to be convicted. he went to the grand jury without immunity. he testified, he admitted the crime. he will be a convicted felon. the nfl should strip him for the rest of this year. he needs electroshock therapy. and maybe more. i don't know. it's a very bad situation here. >> you know, but it's interesting, tanya, when you look at this, clearly, clearly, no hitting is really allowed anymore. you know, no matter what anybody grew up with. there's a line between child abuse and discipline. but it's interesting the way he handled it. he went directly to the authorities. he didn't try to cover it up. he's basically standing in there saying, this is what i did. let me tell you my side of the story, which is very different from what ray rice did. how do you see this? >> well, you know, i don't know that he had much of a choice. he had already tweeted or e-mailed or texted the child's mother and told the child's mother what he did, essentially, admitting that he believed he
went too far. he even described, you know, i think -- i really feel bad about the hit to his genital areas. i think that one was really painful. i feel bad about that. i don't know that he had much of a choice but to go to the authorities and to try to get in front of this thing and get his version of this thing out first. i don't think that that is going to help him in this case. in part because we can see the photographs. we can see the injuries to the baby. i can't say -- you know, my co-guest said it perfectly. there's not much more really to say about it. this is a 4-year-old baby. you don't leave marks like that, you don't break the skin of a 4-year-old, allegedly because he wanted his brother to let him play the video game. i mean, you have got to have a better way of dealing with a 4-year-old than doing that and to stuff leaves in his mouth. that was just cruel. and i think it's clearly has crossed the line from discipline to child abuse. >> there's no question about it. the one question i have is, look, the nfl really gives these guys so much fame, so quickly.
especially the star players. do they have any kind of parenting classes? do they have any kind of marriage classes? do they have anything that enables these athletes to be able to deal with not only the stresses of the game, but also, really, the stresses of their life? because if a guy can't control a 4-year-old, except by hitting him, like, where's the disconnect there? >> it's very, it's very hard for a single parent to raise a child and it's just very, very difficult. but he's out of control. it was summer vacation and he really -- he annihilated this young child. what crime did this 4-year-old commit, where he deserved to be beaten 15 to 20 times, in the whooping room, where daddy has a lot of belts and he likes to use the belts. and i thought daddy might punch me in the mouth if i tell anybody about this. i mean, adrian peterson, it's not discipline. rusty harden, the world, it's not discipline. he's out of control. he beat the crap out of the kid. he cannot have visitation
without supervision in the future. the nfl has a minimum six-month suspension for crimes like this. minimum. and when it involves a child, it can be more, it should be more. he should be thrown out for this year, and you know, if it's my client in the bronx, new york, who does something like this, he's in prison right now. he's not walking around free. he's in prison right now. >> yeah, no question. all right. tanya and richard, we'll be coming back right after a quick break. stay with us. we have a lot more to talk about. the nfl, its commissioner, are they in legal jeopardy because of how they did handle the ray rice incident? we're going to get tanya and rich's take on that when we come back right after this break. pehabits of cleaning theirld dentures with toothpaste, and dentures are very different than real teeth. they're about ten times softer and have surface pores where bacteria can grow and multiply. polident is specifically designed to clean dentures daily. it's unique micro-clean formula kills 99.99% of odor-causing bacteria and helps dissolve stains,
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well, voichorus of voices criticizing roger goodell getting louder. james harrison wrote, okay, let's just say you didn't know. if that's negligence, what fine, suspension, penalty would you make up for that? goodell says he did not know ray rice hit his wife during an argument in atlantic city, however, several reports say rice, rice himself told goodell in a private meeting in june. the ap is reporting that the videotape of rice hitting his
now-wife has -- was sent to the nfl five months ago. andy sholes looks at the controversy surrounding the nfl commissioner. >> reporter: the baltimore ravens taking the field for the first time. >> and it's a touchdown! >> reporter: since their teammate, ray rice, was let go amidst a domestic violence controversy. in a new report, four sources tell espn that rice met with nfl commissioner roger goodell back in june, admitting he punched his then-fiancee, janae palmer, in an casino elevator months before tmz posted the surveillance video. on tuesday, goodell told espn that rice's account of the event was ambiguous. >> what was ambiguous about her lying on the floor, being dragged out by her feet? >> there was nothing ambiguous about that. that was the result we saw. >> reporter: the number of current and former players calling for goodell to be held accountable is growing by the day. >> roger goodell failed to act, plain and simple. he failed to act, there should
be consequences. >> reporter: and former philadelphia eagles running back brian westbrook tweeting, being a leader is not a part-time job. if goodell holds the players to high standard, he should be held to that same high standard. mere hours before thursday night's kickoff, cbs officials nixed a pre-recorded rihanna opener, considering the singer's own history of domestic abuse at the hands of ex, chris brown. instead, devoting time to a discussion about the abuse, scandal rocking the nfl, culminating with james brown making a powerful plea. >> according to domestic violence experts, more than three women her day lose their lives at the hands of their partners. so this is yet another call to men to stand up and take responsibility for their thoughts, their words, their deeds, and as deon says, to give help, or to get help, because our silence is deafening and deadly. >> reporter: after defeating the steelers, the ravens voiced their support for their ex-teammate. >> he's always been unbelievable in the community here.
and people have really grown to love him. and they support him. as do we. we acknowledge the mistake he made. >> reporter: ray is still a great guy. you know, he made a mistake. you take away those two minutes of his life, and you look at a model citizen, a model man. >> reporter: fans also showing loyalty to rice by wearing his jersey. >> i stick behind ray rice 100%. and i will rock this jersey every day, until he is back on that field. >> this is a situation that is between his wife and himself. and i feel that everybody should leave them alone and let them deal with the situation. >> that was andy sholes for us. and andy tells us he was really shocked to see how many female ravens fans were wearing ray rice jerseys at the game this week and the people he talked to were more upset at the nfl and roger goodell than they actually were with ray rice. let's bring in our legal team. criminal defense attorney, tanya miller, in for avery friedman, and richard herman, a new york criminal defense attorney and
law professor. he is in las vegas. tanya, you look at the commissioner's reaction, and he says, well, we only saw her being dragged out of the elevator. that's the part we saw. but why didn't he say anything about the fact that ray rice didn't even lean down to help his wife? shouldn't that be the base minimum? if you accidentally hit somebody, don't you actually try to find out, are you okay? >> look, i think goodell has problems. and the biggest problem that he's going to have here is that there are law enforcement officers who say that they provided this full video to the nfl months before it was released by tmz. goodell, presumably, had that video or someone in his office had that video if you believe the report of law enforcement. now, if that is true, and if that turns out to be true, and it's being investigated now by robert mueller, former head of the fbi, who's conducting an independent investigation into that, if that's true, we have a problem with goodell potentially
covering this up, potentially misleading other team owners and players and the public. so, goodell is going to have a big problem that be his opinion of whether or not rice should have helped his wife up after she was laying face down on the floor of a casino, if he lied to everybody about what he knew and when he knew it. >> and you know, richard, it's fascinating to me, i really get the sense that the key players, the stars who bring in a lot of money, the stars who bring in the fans, they are enabled by a lot of the people around them. arguably, goodell enabled rice by not calling him to account quickly and decisively, right at the beginning. he could have gotten ahead of this. he did not. why not? >> look, he did not. but there's two things going on here. let's not mistake. people in baltimore have lost their mind, okay? he almost killed this woman. he didn't just smack her. he didn't just push her. he knocked her out cold, dragged her, threw her head down on the
ground. he almost killed her! whether she wanted to press charges or not, in new york, my client is sitting in prison right now, off that video, okay? so that's step number one. number two, oh, what a tangled web we weave when we first seek to deceive. the nfl, roger goodell, i think he's in big trouble right now. it's clear tmz sent that video to the nfl four or five months ago. and for roger goodell to say, listen, it wasn't tested, because i had asked for it from law enforcement and they refused to give it to me, but he did see the video, and for them to get a little slap on the wrist, a two-game suspension, that's beyond absurd, and the story he's covered -- it looks like a cover-up right now. it looks bad, like the integrity of the nfl is going down the toilet fast here. >> i want to ask tanya about that. the former fbi director, bob muller, really, a guy, a great integrity. a man whose stood up to leaders and said, this isn't the way it should be happening. but given that it's going to be
overseen by two nfl owners, is it really an independent investigation? will it be sort of the clear call that the nfl needs, tanya? >> well, when you say oversee, so there's two sort of ways to think about that. first of all, there's sort of your point of contact. the two nfl owners, team owners that are the point of contact for mueller and his team, does not mean that they're going to supervise him. does not mean that they're going to dictate to him what he can ask and what they can see. they are just there to facilitate his investigation. and i just do not believe, without any other evidence, that mueller would allow someone to contaminate his investigation. he is a man -- >> and i would agree. >> -- i just don't see that happening. >> yeah, knowing what i know. very quickly as i wrap, thumbs up, thumbs down, does goodell survive. thumbs up or thumbs down. don't say anything. >> i think goodell's gone. >> okay, jury is split. >> thanks so much, tanya and richard, we appreciate it. coming up, u.s. troops return from war. many of them forever changed.
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help america destroy isis? secretary of state john kerry pushing for international support this morning in cairo. >> the bottom line is that terrorists like isil have no place in the modern world. but it's up to the world to enforce that truth. >> plus, some fans say nfl star ray rice deserves a second chance. but a lot of women disagree. one woman who knows a thing or two about domestic violence is james brown's daughter. that famous musician. she was a victim. she joins me this hour. and we start this hour with an urgent manhunt in pennsylvania, for whoever ambushed two state troopers late last night. one trooper was shot and killed, another was wounded. police say that they're searching for a suspect or suspects, they're not quite sure now. day do not have a description
yet. they do say that the attack was directed at pennsylvania state police. joining us now is cnn's nick valencia. and on the phone is cnn law enforcement analyst, tom fuentes. nick, let's start with you. first of all, is there any indication that there were surveillance cameras outside of this police barracks? >> that question was asked at a press conference earlier this morning. but the head of the police department unwilling to comment on that. right now interviews are ongoing surrounding the case, no arrests have been made, but police continuing to search for the suspect or suspects surrounding the shooting. >> reporter: the manhunt is on for a cop killer. >> the individual who perpetr e perpetrated this heinous crime is still at large. we do not have a description or any real information on their identity. >> reporter: whoever it was, the person or persons shot and killed one pennsylvania state trooper and injured another. in an ambush on state police barracks overnight. the shooting occurred around
11:00 p.m., about 35 miles outside of scranton, pennsylvania. investigators say they're following a number of leads, but do not have a motive. the names of the troopers have not been released. the injured officer was hospitalized. doctors overnight performed emergency surgery and he remains in stable condition. >> this attack seems to be directed, particularly at the pennsylvania state police. we are putting every resource available to the pennsylvania state police or law enforcement in pennsylvania, in action. >> reporter: and it's not just pennsylvania officers involved in the search. hundreds of officers from multiple agencies, including new york and new jersey, are involved in the hunt. on the ground, in the air. >> we're all so focused on our investigation, i'm sure that this is going to be a very difficult time for them,s a it has going to be for all of us, when we're done working, to get this terrible crime solved. >> the massive manhunt, underway in that rural area.
there is no shelter in place order. so far, the police tell the public and the media that they don't believe there is an ongoing threat to the public. but they do believe that these officers were targeted. they didn't elaborate on why they thought those officers were targeted. and last hour, deb, we got a statement from the governor of pennsylvania. i want to read part of that to you now. it says, every attack on an officer of the law is an attack on our state, our country, and civilized society. the incident in policewombloomi show once again that our officers face constant danger in order that the rest of us may live in peace and safety. a terrible strategy they're dealing with there in pennsylvania with state troopers. deb? >> all right, nick valencia. and tom fuentes also in the phone with us. and tom, i want to ask you a couple of questions. the nature of this attack, for somebody to go up the to a police barrack and actually open fire, what does that suggest about the motive? is this someone who has a hatred for all police? for these police in particular? what does it tell you?
>> well, it says that either one is possible, deborah. it could be some type of a vendetta against one of the two officers and the other officer happened to be around and got caught up in being shot or it could be just a general, you know for the police department as a whole, or any police, regardless of what department it is. you know, we had an expression when i was a young police officer, that you're not concerned about the bullet that has your name on it, you're concerned about the thousands of bullets that are addressed, "to whom it may concern." so right now, we don't know whether either one is the case. >> and so tom, you know, some of these barracks, they're sort of -- the barracks are usually positioned on very highly trafficked venues. whether it be a highway or a cross-street. is this possible that this was simply a crime of opportunity? you know, two people or one person, we don't know how many, but somebody just figured, why not?
let me do this? >> well, it's possible, but, you know, normally the barracks are situated in a way that they're somewhat protected. they are off an interstate exit, but are fairly accessible, except for maybe having a fence around them. but it certainly looks in this case that somebody went after the police deliberately. we just don't know whether it was the individual officer or just any officer from the pennsylvania state police, or whether it was any police officer in general, and because the barracks are sitting out there, probably, you know, unprotected to a great extent, maybe just a chain link fence around it. in that sense, it was an opportunity for someone who wanted to shoot a police officer. >> and finally, very quickly, absent any sort of surveillance video. how will police end up catching whoever did this? >> well, certainly they'll be looking at, you know, they're going to be trying to get information out of the individual that they've been interviewing all day, who
they're declaring a person of interest. i think it's interesting that the head of the state police has said to the public that they don't need to lock themselves down. i mean, he indicates that they have to be vigilant and concerned, but it doesn't seem like the level that he's asking the them to be as concerned as they ought to be. if you have an armed gunman out at large, anything's possible. a home invasion to seek ref funluge. a carjacking, any number of possibilities would pose an extreme danger to members of the public. so i'm not sure why he's essentially dialing down the level of threat unless maybe they have good enough leads and information at this point that they think it's somewhat contained. >> all right. well, nick valencia, tom fuentes, thank you very much. we want to remind our viewers that there will be a 2:00 press conference coming up, perhaps then authorities will have a
little bit more information, either as to the status of the injured officer, as well as perhaps the person or people that they're looking for. and we turn to the nfl. he was a star and he seemed to have it all. baltimore ravens number 27, ray rice. but after that video of him punching his wife in an elevator went absolutely viral, his world is now falling apart. cnn's alexandra steel reports on how two minutes changed absolutely everything. >> reporter: at 27 years old, number 27 had it all and he knew it. >> when i got called for the ravens, it was the best day of my life. you know, i knew my mom's situation would be different. i knew my living situation would be different. >> reporter: a high school football standout, a college record smasher. ray rice made it to the nfl with a team of supporters, who were blindsided by what happened behind closed elevator doors. >> we love ray, so we have a tendency to hear what we want to
hear and see what we want to see. >> reporter: ray's football career took off at new rochelle high school where he was first team all-state. the running back went on to rutgers university, becoming a highsman trophy prospect. by 2013, he was a super bowl champion, a star on the baltimore ravens roster, earning the respect of players and coaches for his talent and his work ethic. but the recent release of this video showing rice attacking his then-fiancee, janae palmer, led to his indefinite suspension from the nfl. major sponsors dropped him this week. some say his promising career, most likely over. >> i don't think he'll play another nfl game. i'll be shocked if some team would pick him up. >> reporter: rice's actions caught so clearly on tape sparked outrage and national dialogue on domestic violence. but still, not everyone has turned their backs on rice. >> ray is still a great guy, you know? he made a mistake. you take away those two minutes
of his life and you look at a model citizen, a model man. and obviously he made a huge mistake and i'm sure he regrets it. >> reporter: neighbors who knew rice when he was a high school football star say he was a good person who was known to give back to his hometown. >> i also feel like that the image that's being portrayed of me is wrong and no one's actually speaking up and speaking up about the good he's done. i don't condone what happened, but we're all human and we all make mistakes. >> reporter: on thursday night, the ravens faced off against the steelers without rice. a number of fans, some of them women, showed up to the game wearing his jersey, a show of support for their former star running back. >> and i believe that everybody deserves a second chance. this is a situation that is between his wife and himself. they're going to counseling. she married him for a reason and she's standing by her man and i feel that everybody should leave them alone and let them deal with the situation. >> fans who saw how far ray rice
went, how quickly it all disappeared. alexandra field, cnn, new york. and building a strong, united front against isis, that's what secretary of state john kerry is trying to do. and today he met with the president of egypt, a country the u.s. considers key in fighting extremism. >> we're very grateful that both egypt and the arab league have supported this coalition every step of the way. and in each of the meetings that i had today, we discussed how we could better accelerate the efforts in bringing more nations on board and in dividing up the responsibilities. >> and egypt is secretary kerry's last stop in the region. cnn's elise labott takes a look at the outcome of this trip. >> reporter: secretary kerry
came to turkey seeking support from a pivotal partner in the fight against isis. >> within the coalition, there are many ways that turkey can help in this effort, and we will continue our conversations with our military and other experts, spending time to define the specific role that turkey will play. >> reporter: bordering iraq and syria, turkey would be an ideal place to base u.s. strikes. but with isis holding 49 turkish government employees hostage, turkey's foreign minister spoke only about, quote, challenges and threats in the region. on thursday, kerry met with ten arab nations, which ring syria. the u.s. wants them to join a global coalition to go after isis. after the talks. the country's quote, agreed to do their share in the comprehensive fight against the militants. but few made specific commitments. neighboring jordan already hosts a small cia program to train syrian rebels, but has been
silent about requests to stage more operations there. u.s. officials say saudi arabia, which hosted thursday's talks, has volunteered to train syrian opposition on its soil. but when asked, the foreign minister was vague. >> saudi arabia has always -- with regard towards a fond position towards terrorists. so there is no limit to what the kingdom can provide in this regard. >> reporter: the u.s. also wants arab states to cut financing to isis, which secretary kerry said was a focus of the strategy in an interview with cnn. you called saudi arabia a great partner in this coalition and praised the work of the kingdom. yet saudi supported financing for radical islam, is widely seen as part of the problem. >> how they supported certain ideological point of view, that's different from supporting overt terror and the kinds of
activities here. >> reporter: syria wants to take part in the coalition, even though the u.s. faults president assad's bloody crackdown on his people as a rude cause of isis' rise. >> we are ready to be part of any coalition against terrorism. >> reporter: it's also unclear what role, if any, iran could play in this global coalition. there's been some talk that perhaps iran could attend a meeting next week in france of coalition countries. secretary kerry said between iranian troops fighting in syria and iran's support for terrorist groups in the region, iran does not belong at that meeting, but the u.s. is also balancing that nuclear deal with iran and trying not to antagonize congress. elise labott, cnn, ankhra. and from snow in september to deserts turning into raging rivers, it has been a very wild week of weather. and mother nature may not be done just yet. and as the ray rice saga continues to unfold, we're going
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in southeastern arizona. those two merged together, and as they slowly tracked into the phoenix metro area, they dumped torrential rain in a period of hours. starting at 2:00 a.m., we started to see flooding across our major thoroughfares. interstate 10, the u.s. 60, state route 51, and folks that were driving to work before sunrise did not know what they were driving into. they were driving into inches and inches of rain. we had dozens of water rescues, because the water just reached as high as hoods, even windshields of cars. and along with that, we had a number of school closures. basically, the town shut down. you could think of a couple of inches of snow shutting down atlanta. that's kind of what happened with us. we had reports of roof collapses at one of the grocery stores, and we saw, before all was said and done, anywhere from 3 to 6 inches of rain that drenched
cities all over the valley. but one of the hardest hit areas was probably the city of mesa, which is just outside of phoenix to our east. within a couple of hours, the retention basins started to overflow into one specific neighborhood and more than 200 homes flooded. water for these residents actually reached waste deep. and the mesa mayor called it a mini katrina. the arizona state governor, jan brewer, did declare a state of emergency along with the phoenix city mayor. so we continue our clean up, even a week later. now we're keeping our eyes on what hurricane odeal could personally do to arizona. right now it's 500 miles south-southeast of the southern tip of baja california, and it could potentially hit us come wednesday, thursday, from some of that moisture again, marching into arizona. back to you, deborah. >> you definitely do not anticipate seeing that kind of
rain out there in the desert. all right, kim with cnn affiliate ktvk, thanks so much. we appreciate that reporting. and terrorist group known as isis is a lot different and probably a lot more danger than even al qaeda. >> one of the things that's frightening about isis now that al qaeda had not really been able to do is they control terrain. >> see more of our exclusive interview with retired general stanley mcchrystal with erin burnett. that's coming up next. many of my patients still clean their dentures with toothpaste. but they have to use special care in keeping the denture clean. dentures are very different to real teeth. they're about 10 times softer and may have surface pores where bacteria can multiply. polident is designed to clean dentures daily. its unique micro-clean formula kills 99.99% of odor causing bacteria and helps dissolve stains, cleaning in a better way than brushing with toothpaste. that's why i recommend using polident. [ male announcer ] polident.
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a former top commander of american and nato troops in afghanistan is weighing in on the threat posed by isis. in an exclusive interview, retired four-star general stanley mcchrystal talked to cnn's erin burnett about how why isis is unlike other terror threats. >> i think they're a very significant threat on several levels. i think, first, they're a threat to the existence to the state of iraq. they're clearly a threat to syria. i think they're a threat to the united states, because they have the aspiration to be a trans-national terrorist movement, establish a calphet from which they can push ideas.
one of the thing frightening about isis that al qaeda could not do is they control terrain. in one sense, it makes them vulnerable, because they have something to defend. >> they have to protect it. >> but on the other hand, when you have terrain, you have the opportunity to provide goods and services to a population to do all the things of a state. and if you can do that to a level that's accepted by the population, even if it's not loved, they have the opportunity to get legitimately that they shouldn't have. and over time, that legitimacy could make them pretty difficult to root out. >> you talk about isis as a threat to the united states. what makes you so concerned about that threat? >> you can never be 100% sure, but the number of foreigners, typically people of middle eastern decent, who's gob from europe or other places back into syria or iraq to join isis creates a pool of people likely to go home. that's one. that's the most obvious ability to go back into to strike
america or other parts of the world. i think that's a very real problem. but i think the wider problem is, with stability in the region matters to us on many levels. we used to think about just the flow of the way of the persian gulf, but it's much more complex now. we're in an interconnected world when what happens anywhere, essentially matters everywhere. and so i think the idea that isis can grow so fast, be so violent, be pushing for the establishment of a very extreme calfete could create instability in a region in the world. >> so this is as significant of a threat that any you faced while you were in iraq while fighting the insurgency? >> i think so. >> absolutely, so this is that serious? >> isis is a serious threat. >> so the united states has conducted more than 150 air strikes in iraq. the president says he's going to start striking in syria. there are 1,700 u.s. troops in
iraq. but the administration seems a bit torn on what word to use to describe all of that. i want to play for you what secretary kerry had to say as well as the spokesperson for the department of defense, john kirby. >> is the united states at war with isis? it sure sounds like we are. >> i think that's the wrong terminology. >> make no mistake, we know we are at war with isil. >> is this war? >> well, you can trip over and argue about whether it's a war for congressional purposes. if you're on the ground and people are getting killed, to a soldier it feels like war and to the population it feels like war. so it's a struggle. >> is the united states willing -- the end is to degrade and destroy isis. >> we have identified isis as a united states enemy now, and so people are asking that question. we no longer have it simply as a threat to iraq or a threat to syria, we've identified it as a separate enemy, and so people are making that calculation. i think our credibility in the region and in the world is probably less than it was in
2001. and that's not unexpected and it's no one person's fault. so if we start to point fingers, i think that's way oversimplifying. >> so, what are the american people saying about the threat from isis? we're going to find out. we're going to hear their views of the president's plan to destroy the terror group. that's coming up. [ female announcer ] you change your style. why not your eye color? new air optix® colors prescription contact lenses enhance your eye color for a naturally beautiful look with consistent comfort. find your perfect color and get a free trial offer at airoptixcolors.com. when your favorite food starts a fight fight back fast with tums. relief that neutralizes acid on contact... ...and goes to work in seconds.
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now to the united states' plan to defeat isis. president obama used his weekly address today to reiterate his strategy to destroy the terror group. erin mcpike joins us now live from the white house. erin, did the president get any new details today about the international coalition against isis? >> reporter: deb, vaguely. simply by saying that more nations are joining the coalition. he also said that arab nations are agreeing to strengthen their support for the new forming iraqi government, and also that they will assist in any sort of military effort. but what really stood out about his weekly address this morning is that he called what is needed against isis as a, quote, targeted, relentless counterterrorism campaign. he didn't say war. and that's at odd with what some administration officials said yesterday. >> our objective is clear. >> reporter: but as the president and his team pieced together a strategy to fight isis, they are getting tripped
up by one word. is this war? >> the united states is at war with isil in the same way that we are at war with al qaeda, and its al qaeda affiliates all around the globe. >> reporter: whatever it's called, concern about terrorism has shot up in recent months. we asked carol dougterty from the pugh research center why american public opinion is increasingly volatile. >> it's a moving target at this point. i think there's, you know, isis has gone from not being on the public's radar to front and center for the public in a very short period of time. >> reporter: in august, a pew poll found 67% consider isis a major threat. a new cnn poll shows 76% of americans want more air strikes over isis targets. but dougherty, pew's political research director says -- >> the public does set limits, even with the rise and concern about isis, the rising concern about terrorism, 60% or so in cnn's poll said, no ground
troops. >> reporter: like gary warren from boca raton. >> i would be okay with them having to drop bombs. boots on the ground is not okay. >> reporter: teresa cullins from pittsburgh. >> i think they need to get involved. i don't want know to what extent, that's kind of a touchy subject. >> reporter: and thomas gauge from washington. >> i go along with obama. i agree, no boots on the ground. i don't think there's a direct threat from isis now, but i think there will be eventually. >> reporter: and one big concern i heard over and over from people yesterday is this concern about syrian foreign fighters trying to enter either canada or the united states. and to that end, we did hear from homeland security secretary, jay johnson, earlier this week, he said he's working with his foreign counterparts to track some of those people, to make sure that does not happen. also, domestically, secretary of state john kerry will be testifying on capitol hill on tuesday, and on wednesday, president obama will travel to tampa, where he'll meet with the leadership of centcom, and that
is where the pentagon houses its operations that deal with the middle east. deb? >> all right. erin mcpike, thank you so much for that great report. appreciate it. and coming up next, we're going to talk with the daughter of the lake james brown and get her take on the ray rice situation and what women should do to escape violence at home. she grew up watching domestic violence and she says she, too, has been a victim.
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time now for the science behind, basically where we look at the why behind the what. the last of two solar storms is hitting earth now and solar radiation is raining around our planet. so what exactly are in these storms and how can they possibly disrupt our high-tech lifestyle? chad myers joins me now with the science behind solar flares. chad? >> now, the sun's always been out there, there's always been a solar wind, there's always been solar flares, but now that we're so dependent on satellites, on gps, on the power grid, now we're worried about what the sun is doing out there. well, the solar flare comes out very quickly and it can really disrupt radio communications, especially high-latitude radio communications, but a coronal mass ejection, when it comes towards the earth, it is sending plasma, electrons, protrons, th
big solar wind that will energize the magnetosphere and possibly even energize tether itself, and that's what we're concerned about. obviously, solar flares and cmes have been hitting the earth for billions of years, but we have now the technology in place that can be damaged by these cmes. with a big cme, or coronal mass ejection, we could lose the power grid, we could lose satellites, we could certainly lose gps. we think of geomagnetic storms being fun because we get to see the northern lights, the aurora borealis, but there's more to it than that. it can power the grid. it can make brownouts in our electrical grid. it can turn our satellites off, and maybe even have to manually turn them off if there's too much energy coming at them. so think of a world at least temporarily without satellite or gps or communication, a lot of things could shut down with a big cme, earth directed.
>> all right, chad myers, interesting, thanks. cup next, we'll talk with the daughter of the late james brown and get her take on the ray rice situation and what women should do to escape violence at home. dentures are very different to real teeth. they're about 10 times softer and may have surface pores where bacteria can multiply. polident kills 99.99% of odor causing bacteria and helps dissolve stains. that's why i recommend polident. [ male announcer ] cleaner, fresher, brighter every day.
well, some fans say that nfl star ray rice deserves a second chance, many women are having none of that, including a bipartisan group of 16 women in the u.s. senate. they sent a letter to nfl commissioner roger goodell saying they were shocked and disgusted with the elevator video showing rice hitting his then fiancee, and that the league originally only suspended rice for just two games. they also called on the league to institute a real zero tolerance policy in such cases. well, one woman who knows a two or thing about domestic violence is james brown's daughter. the author of the book, "cold sweat," yama brown grows up recalling watching her father get physical with her mom and she, too, has been a victim of domestic violence. and yanna brown is at the cnn center in atlanta. and yanna, you saw your mom dealing with it for a long time. what would you say to janae rice, ray rice's wife, right now if you were talking to her? >> right now, if i was talking to her, i would let her know that she has support.
i'm sure she has the support of her family, but she definitely has the support of the community. i don't know specifically what's going on in their household, but i would say that when she is ready, because i know that sometimes, it takes a while for people to get to that point, that she knows that she can just -- she has the wherewithal, she has the fortitude to come forward, to get out of any abusive situation, and she needs to be in a healthy relationship. >> you know, you look at ray rice. he worked so hard to get where he is. you know, janae rice was benefiting from that. she said, she tweeted, this is our life. what don't you all get, if your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all our happiness way, you've succeeded on so many level. is this the classic behavior of someone who's trying to protect the life she has and saying, let me fix this from within before people start condemning it from outside? >> absolutely, deb. she is still a victim, i believe. i mean, i don't think because this video has come out that
she's not. she's still dealing with it. she's in denial about what's going on. and she's going to make sure she, you know, she doesn't want anybody to attack her husband. she's going to try to control the sanctity of her homoand try to keep it as calm and quiet as possible to not make things anywhere worse. and you know, we continue to victimize the victim, you know? we point our fingers at her, because of what she said when she came out, but, again, like you said, you are not going to be able to pull anyone out of a situation like that until they're ready, and she just needs to know that she has support. and that's why it's so important for different domestic violence centers and places like that to have the resource, so when she's ready, she has a place and the support to get help. >> and i want to talk about you, because you grew up watching your father beat your mom. you say, it probably would have helped if someone had warned me that children who live with abuse often either become
abusers or become victims themselves. what was the long-term impact on you? >> oh, man, the long-term impact has been -- i mean, i can definitely sit up here today and say i'm a survivor, because i'm no longer a victim and i've come out of in some way, it predisposes you because ewe don't get the chance to break the cycles, you see it, it's healthy love, but it is unhealthy. i just got wisked into that same situation, in secure in the beginning, not ashamed to say it, but you find yourself in this continuous cycle of abuse, and i got right in it, dealt with it for a long time before i left, and it's something that you really -- it's hard to deal with, but, you know, you try to get out of it, and when you do, you realize how much support you have had along the way. >> and sometimes that support comes in the form of sort of condescending suggestions like,
get out, which you can't do because you love the person. what would you tell your children if they came to you and said, mom, i'm in this situation, but i don't want to leave. what do you say? >> oh, gosh, you know, if you don't leave, you could be the next victim of death, and that's the thing that we always want to protect people because they they, oh, i can handle the situation. you can't. you don't know the next time you may not be able to have a cry for help. let's get the help you and maybe that person needs right now to have a stronger, healthy relationship. >> all right, author of "cold sweat" writing powerfully about the relationship with her father and of the abuse she witnessed. thank you so much. we appreciate your joining us and shedding light on this, thanks. >> thank you so much for having me. >> of course. still ahead, whitfield is not in the anchor chair this week. see that right there? she is putting her money where her mouth is and competing in a
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classic triathlon. i'm here, so excited to do this race this week. at the same time, i have butterflie butterflies. i wanted to do this race for so many years, and along the ways had all the excuses until this. >> nearly everyone on the 2014 team has been through a major health crisis. >> reporter: inspiration and a nudge from cnn resident superman. >> anyone can get more fit whether you train for a triathlon or just training for life. fred, maybe you can join us. back to you. >> reporter: okay, sanjay, yes, i'm in, swimming countless laps from pool to open water. runni running at all hours between work and family time. >> maybe next time we'll go biking. >> reporter: biking. >> oh, we're going up. you are trying to kill me. another hill? i just have to talk myself
through it the whole time. >> reporter: none of it easy, but eventually fuelling a thrilling adrenaline rush. >> great, when i get to the top -- oh, going up it. killer. >> reporter: so this is what i signed up for. thousands of people at the start line. together in giant mass, into the pacific ocean, kicking for position, swimming half mile fighting each other, crazy when put that way. then transition to the 18-mile bike followed by a four mile run. what in the world have i got myself into. training on my own and sometimes with others. am i nuts? >> before the big race, i was training with the pros in the pool, the triathlon club for two
and a half months now to work on my strength and endurance which, i'm going to need the most. wish me luck. ♪ >> reporter: in one hour sessions, up to 1900 meters in drills and mock races. >> guys, ready? >> reporter: of the three disciplines, biking, running, swimming, this is my least favorite, and this is why. i feel like people are passing me like i'm standing still, and i'm putting all this effort into it so what i had to work on was my gear shifting. i hope this course is flat. all right. it is just after 9:00, and my three kids are asleep, and this is the only time i have to get a nightly run in, so this is me time, me and the cicadas and the occasional bat. making time for training sometimes as challenging as the
training itself. this is my fourth sprint triathlon, but what's different here is that ocean swim and i have an achilles injury i hurt running this year, and then made worse snow skiing. i've been in physical therapy ever since, so if i'm hurting in that run, you'll see me race walking like this. back to malibu. i'll modify my run if i have to and step up the bike because i must. now, what do i do about that out there? how do you navigate the ocean? that's where my triathlon coach comes in. mary, how do i get out there without the waving controlling me. >> controls waves, one, go over them, or, two, cut through them on big, big waves, and third, dive under and go swimming.
>> rip tides. >> they will not kill you. panic will. when you're trying to come in on a rip tide, swim right or left parallel to the beach and turn and come in and the rip tide does not have me. >> i have your credo in my head which is? >> more, more, more! get out there, let's go! >> good luck to all those who have trained for this and who are participating in this. we wish them well. again, donations raised by the marathon benefit the children's hospital los angeles. go to our cnn page, cnn.com/fitnation to donate, and as fred was prepping, pray for me.