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the senate majority leader should make that decision. he's dodging it. he's not doing the right thing. they'll go on vacation later tonight or tomorrow. >> everyone has their own reasons for dodging it and none of them are good. >> that's it for me. i'll see you at 5:00 p.m. eastern in "the situation room." "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. all right, wolf. thank you so much. hi, everyone. i'm brooke baldwin. great to be with you on this thursday. let's begin with the president of the united states. president barack obama now has plan on the table to strike syria. the plan, part of the strategy to hit isis inside syria's borders. so far we know the house, house of representatives, has given the green light authorizing the u.s. military to train and equip moderate syrian rebels but so now this is all in the hands of the senate. u.s. secretary of state john kerry and defense secretary chuck hagel making that case to
lawmakers. >> the package of answers that we will provide tactical and more advanced training. as these forces prove their effectiveness on the battlefield, we would be prepared to provide increasingly sophisticated types of assistance to the most trusted commanders and capable forces. the goal is not to achieve numerical parity with isil but to ensure that moderate syrian forces are superior fighters. >> all of this as the isis threat reaches beyond syria, beyond iraq because right now we're learning about yet another horrifying plot by isis. this one to recruit people to target a random citizen and behead them in public. a plan authorities are calling a "demonstration killing" designed to shock and to horrify. the details coming out of australia, one of america's
closest allies here in this fight against isis where raids across the country are netting alleged isis recruits. >> reporter: the alleged plan was bone chilling. to grab someone, behead them and drape their body with the black flag of isis. >> certainly at this stage it was at a high level. >> reporter: one of the men accused in the plot charged with a terrorism offense. he did not enter plea. he was caught up in australia's biggest counterterrorism raids after an intercepted call. >> direct exultations were coming from be a australian who is apparently quite senior in isil to networks of support back in australia to conduct demonstration killings here in this country.
>> reporter: police storming homes across two of australia's biggest cities after australia raised its terror threat to high for the first time ever. the heightened alert means authorities don't just think a terror attack on their soil is possible but that it's likely. the australian government pointing to this homegrown terror threat as part of the reason for its plan to not just send planes to help the u.s. in iraq and syria but military advisers as well. 600 of them. one of the first u.s. allies to put skin in the game. it's believed at least 60 australians are fighting alongside isil and other militant groups in the middle east. the fear now is that isis is not just trying to recruit from other countries but urging them to carry out attacks on their own soil. >> back here at home this fear of a homegrown terror threat is driving one side of the debate
to take this isis fight to syria. let's go straight to capitol hill to our chief congressional correspondent sta corresponde correspondent standing by, dana bash. how will the senate vote? take me behind the scenes. >> reporter: it looks like it will be approved because it is murky. what the senate is going to vote on is a bill to fund the government. inside that is the authority that the president asked for to arm and train the syrian rebels. so it's going to be hidden. there's no other way to say it. if this is something that the white house wanted, the president has been making calls and started doing it last week to say that he wanted this authority to be a part of a must pass bill and funding the government especially before they leave to go campaign full time is must pass. the house got it to do it independently but the senate will not. i tried to ask the senate majority leader harry reid why not since he controls the senate floor, why not have an independent vote because a lot of senators on both sides of the aisle think they are shirking
the responsibility. >> what did he say? >> reporter: he didn't answer my question. >> glad you asked it. while i have you, can we talk about this rumor. with he know rand paul repeated this rumoren the internet that senator mccain when he was overseas took this photo with isis fighters. it's false. i know that senator paul is on the senate floor now. is he discussing that at all? >> reporter: this has been one of those really sort of head scratching things with regard to that particular rumor. it seems to have been debunked. the whole idea was whether or not when john mccain snuck over the border in may of last year to meet with members of the syrian free army whether some members of isis were there as well. again debunked. senator paul repeated it. i'm not sure what he's doing on the senate floor now. i stopped two minutes ago to talk to you. he's much more broadly and
aggressively and bluntly talking about the mistakes that members of his own party -- pretty clear he's talking about john mccain and the hawks -- really causing this problem and not just helping it. listen to what he said. >> had we bomb assad last year, isis would be more of a threat. isis may have been in damascus had he bombed assad last year. hawks been successful last year, we would face a stronger isis likely in charge of all syria and most of iraq. intervention is not always the answer and often leads to unintended consequences. >> reporter: the hawks he was talking about, leading hawk on syria in his party is john mccain. it was a thinly veiled reference to john mccain. i think just to take it up to 10,000 feet, what we're also
seeing is the very clear beginning of the debate within the republican party for the 2016 presidential race. no secret that rand paul is seriously thinking about. he's not like many other republicans. he's saying right there he doesn't think intervention is always the answer. he's much more -- he doesn't use the term isolationist but he's more cautious and he has been on the floor for maybe 20 minutes, 25 minutes just slamming the idea of the united states helping at all in this war that's going on there, which is within the middle east and it's not really clear who friends are and who foes are and that's the idea that he's been talking about. >> a preview of the coming attraction come 2016. dana bash, we'll let you go back and listen in. thank you as always for asking tough questions even when members of congress don't want to answer you. dana bash, thank you so much in washington for me. just ahead right now, history in the making. scotland is voting on whether to essentially divorce the u.k.
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over legal issues off the field. first you have ray rice appealing his indefinite suspension. you have adrian peterson charged with child abuse. the panthers greg hardy deactivated from his team. he's been granted a jury trial after a judge found him guilty. he was convicted of domestic abuse back in july. and now the latest is arizona cardinal jonathan dwyer. what is the nfl commissioner to do? that's what we're saying to see. how roger goodell matters to this is significant. because to some people his response sets the tone for what will and what will not be allowed in the nfl. and that got us wondering. what about the tone the ncaa sets for players before they get to the league? where does this begin and why are we just talking about this now. let's bring in jessica miles,
domestic violence attorney. welcome back to you first and foremost. >> pleasure to be here. >> one thing we were wondering is given all of this that's happened in the league and now that they have a domestic violence policy period, i'm wondering if girlfriends, wives of current players knowing the punishment can be severe aren't speaking up now. >> i think that there is the concern of any policy that there are some women who aren't ready to leave whether that's because they fear they will be in more danger if they leave. the most dangerous time statistically for a victim of domestic violence is that initial period after she leaves. a woman is most likely to be killed after she leaves a domestic violence relationship. there's a fear that perhaps this will lead to lethal violence. there's also of course sometime the emotional tie or the economic tie and so there could be a chilling effect from a policy that's intended to help. i think a policy that's intended to help needs to give victims incentives and offer help that
will encourage them to report. punishment will encourage some to report but it would discourage some from reporting. >> statistics for people not related to the league, those people that feel themselves in potential violent situations are calling to get help. that's part of this odd dichotomy happening in wake of this. why are we talking about this now? domestic violence is not a new issue. it's not new. i realize a lot of this was the video from the surveillance camera inside that seelevator f ray rice and his now wife. is it a society thing now? >> i think i'm very glad to see all of the attention paid it. it does sadden me that it takes a video of a punch to do that. i showed a video of ray rice dragging his wife off the elevator to my domestic violence class last spring and there was concern but not nearly at the level we see with the punch. i think when people hear domestic violence, it's a
general term. it might sound generic to people and picture a slap or a push or an object thrown. they might not realize how brutal and deadly domestic violence can be until they literally see the punch. >> why do we need the video? >> i agree we should not need the video. because this impacts so many women, men and children in our society, one in four a victim in her lifetime of physical assault. we should be able to see past that. to not need a video. it would appear that we do. it appears we've all seen it now. >> it appears things are changing. the question again what will roger goodell do. thank you so much. come back. >> thank you. >> i really appreciate it. if you are looking for help for yourself or for a friend, just want to get this in here. cnn has details on everything from domestic violence shelters to donations for organizations that work to fight to combat domestic violence and abuse. go to cnn.com/impact. again, cnn.com/impact.
coming up next, after 300 years of marriage, scotland is right now voting on whether they would like to divorce from the u.k. this is a big deal. fallout impacts americans. we'll explain how. and the u.s. is already at war with isis. it's dropping bombs. already an air strike campaign in iraq and now considering targets in syria. one congresswoman is speaking out against any military action. hear why coming up.
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today is a big day here. scots are voting on an issue very familiar to americans. breaking away from the brits. we did that a little while ago. scotland may decide in an election today to separate from the united kingdom and go on its own. 4 million people are expected to answer the question should scotland be an independent country. a survey of six polls says ultimately the answer will be no. it's close. 52-58%. some names you know have already weighed in. andy murray says yes. then you have david beckham and
harry potter creator j.k.rowling says no and that scotland should stay. let's go to nic robertson standing by. how is turnout so far? >> reporter: amazing. turnout has been really high. it was expected to be high. out of those 4.25 million voters, that's 97% of the total electorate registered to vote. that's a huge number. the issue has been so hotly debated here. it's such a close run thing at the moment statistically too close to call even though the no is shaded. that's when you remove undecided vote. 5% to 10% undecided so really this could go either way. so it's been -- the turnout here
has been much higher than people have seen in the past. i talked to people who have monitored elections from here before. they say they have never seen so many people coming out to vote. we were here when the polling station opened and 5:27 morning time here when it was silent. a couple minutes later you could hear the footballs coming and it's been a steady stream since then. >> 97% turnout. it bears repeating. after 307 years, nic, why is this issue just now coming up? >> reporter: you know, the independence for scotland movement has grown over the last few decades and they gathered momentum as there's been dissatisfaction with the government in london. why has it really sort of moved and gathered momentum so much
recently? i guess just more disappointment in that government in london. one way you can look at this, we've had leaders of the three main british parties come up here, labor, conservative and liberal democrats. they came up at the last minute to put an offer on the table that wasn't on the table before. the offer was if you vote no, you will get an increased level of power. increased power over taxes. those kind of things. the fact they realized they need to come up here in the last week or so is an indication that london is out of touch with politics of scotland and therefore the scots are better off running things themselves. that's the idea behind it. that's what gathered currency here. brooke? >> speaking of currency, thank you for my segue. let's bring in alison. if today turns out to be independence day for scotland, so much is up in the air. it's not really sure what kind
of currency scotland would use. >> there are so many things. the u.k. has been together for over 300 years. we just don't know what is going to happen with scotland as far as its economy goes and what will happen with great britain and its economy. one thing is more certain in the near term, you would see these economies take a hit because of so much uncertainty. that's the big picture. there's a little picture. what will happen with the flag? union jack. will the blue of scotland go away? there was a survey done by the flag institute showing that 65% say they hope the flag is changed if scotland breaks away. there's fallout for that. those logos have to be changed. think of all those flags flying right now. it has to be changed. souvenirs is a huge industry in scotland. all that stuff would have to be rebranded. think about it. all of those teddy bears, key
chains and all that out there with that branding. and passports. there's really no certainty what will happen whether or not they will need to be redesigned or even if people could have dual citizenship between scotland and great britain as well. >> beyond that, what about americans? i'm not remiss that there is a bottle of booze on the table. how does this tie into everything? >> we're not sure how americans would be affected just like we don't know what would happen in scotland and great britain. the currency. you mentioned that. that's a huge issue. that's money. that affects everything. it affects buying and selling and lending and trade and pricing. so we're
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>> september 11th changed the world. our deepest fears now haunt us yet i'm convinced that military action will not prevent further acts of international terrorism against the united states. some of us must say let's step back for a moment and pause just for a minute and think through the implications of our actions today so that this does not spiral out of control. >> that was california congresswoman barbara lee then just days after 9/11 and here she is now joining me live from capitol hill. congresswoman, welcome. >> glad to be with you, brooke. >> so many years ago you were the only nay vote. do you think ultimate passing of authorization of military force then has now led to the situation we see today in iraq and syria and isis and to use your words, spiraled out of
control? >> let me say, first of all, that was a blank check. it was an authorization to use force that set the stage quite frankly for perpetual war. this is a resolution that was so broad that it gave president bush, now president obama, and any future president the authorization to continue to use force. these congressional research service has documented over 30 times that it has been used. it's time for repeal that authorization, brooke. it's time to repeal the 2002 authorization that authorized use of force in iraq because this is now 10, 13 years later. we need to come back to the drawing board and debate what a new authorization is. let the american public know what the options are, if there are option s to the use of forc and move forward in a way that doesn't create more terror, more anger and more hostility toward the united states. >> on that note, let's talk
about those options. that was then and this was the issue of the blank check. looking at the situation today, specifically in iraq and syria and when we hear from peshmerga forces for example saying thank you to the u.s. because the air strikes have helped them regain ground. you are against the air strikes. so my question to you is how would you propose keeping isis from growing and becoming more of a threat? >> first, we have to decide -- i think the president in his speech laid out and i thought it was a very good teach. he laid an excellent strategy out. first we have to really look at the nonmilitary approach so that we don't create more danger and more hostilities and more rebels armed with our own armerment used against us. we have to have a political initiative and secretary of state -- >> they are a mighty force. >> they are a mighty force and they are very dangerous.
however, the president indicated very clearly there's no imminent nor immediate threat. we have to decide if we're going to contain them now or dismantle them. we have to be clear on our strategy and bottom line is we have to have a debate in congress. we have to know what the options are. we know what the cost -- we need to know what the cost and consequences of any use of force can be. i supported the u.s. of limited targeted strikes to protect the civilians, to prevent a horrific genocide from taking place and protect u.s. personnel. i caution them that any expansion of this would be as many say mission creep and we need to come back and discuss this and not in a continuing resolution to keep the government open but in a broader context and respectful way so the public will understand the cost and consequences and know exactly how we move forward. >> do you think it's the responsibility of the united states to lead? to lead this effort? >> this is a regional issue. it's a dangerous issue for the
region and there's no way that we can even -- the president and all of the military experts have said there's no military solution. we need to be part of the solution working with the region. we have to have all of the players in the region onboard. everyone has to take in the region the responsibility for addressing and dealing with isis. saudi arabia has to play their part. turkey has to play its part. egypt. all of the countries. we have to help put together a coalition, a multilateral coalition to come together to address this in a way that once again does not create isis 2 in five years as an example or another threat to the united states. we have time to do this. i don't think arming the rebels authorizing to arm the rebels $500 million really leads us down that path. i worry that only military solution could lead to more hostilities and more danger.
>> i understand and hearing testimony from u.s. secretary of state john kerry agrees with you in terms of building the coalition. just hearing from the secretary of defense chuck hagel saying isis is the most brutal forces we have ever seen in the world today and he has proposed military action and these air strikes and beyond. do you think he's wrong? >> let me tell you, you know, we need to have that debate, brooke. that's the point. members of congress need to have an informed, long, healthy, robust debate on the implications. consequences and what in fact constitutes either containment or elimination of isis. we have not had that debate. what we did yesterday was debate on a congressional resolution to keep the government open. we amended that. i don't think that's where we lay out the possibilities and options and what we need to do. and so we need to do this.
i think we need to do it very fast because i worry that this could escalate out of control. unfortunately i worry about that. i know the president and the administration does not intend to send combat troops but i'm concerned it could escalate into something and have unintended consequences that we never knew because we did not have that debate. >> congresswoman lee, i really appreciate you very much joining me and sharing your voice from capitol hill today. thank you very much. >> thank you. my pleasure. we have now seen also some chilling new video in the search for this missi ining university virginia student. pieces of video show someone following her. we'll get details if they have any leads here from the police chief in charlottesville, virginia. and i'm here to tell homeowners that are sixty-two and older about a great way to live a better retirement... it's called a reverse mortgage. call right now to receive your free dvd
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there's new video of missing university of virginia student hannah graham. it appears to show a man following her the night she disappeared. a man walks into the camera's view and looks over his shoulder and steps into a doorway. graham walks past him and then the man starts walking behind her. that's one video. here's another. this is outside a jewelry store showing graham walking with the same man. see it spotlighted with that same man following some distance behind her. the man in this video came to police and said he followed her because she appeared worried. she was distressed. graham was with another man she appeared to know. so let me bring in the police chief in charlottesville, virginia. chief, welcome. >> hi, brooke. thank you for having me. >> can we just first clarify -- explain this to us. the man in the video is the same man that came to you to charlottesville pd. what exactly did he see? >> i think it's important to
note that this gentleman actually contacted through the tip line before the video was even released, which i think gives him some credibility. he comes to the police and basically acknowledges seeing brooke. he did what we asked him to do. he acknowledges seeing brooke going up the mall and follows her and then sees her eventually catch up with another gentleman and they begin to talk. he assumes perhaps that they knew each other and they goes about his way. now, we know that the person that she eventually caught up with was an african-american male. we don't know that person may not have always like this gentleman was trying to be helpful to hannah. but we're trying to locate who they are and perhaps talk to them. what we do know and what the video supports is the easterly direction that she was traveling and had been traveling since she left mcgrady's.
>> do you have -- that's near the university of virginia. do you have any leads? how solid of your leads, chief? >> no. unfortunately all we know is her direction of travel. we are using scent detecting bloodhounds to further that track and further research that track. we are finding some promise with use of those tools. i'm not at liberty to go into much detail in that regard. between the surveillance videos and use of those types of assets and human assets to do the search, those are the most promising two things at this point. we're just being so aggressive to reach out to our community. you were here. you lived here. you know how small a town this is. so many people have been traveling that mall and we know and you can see on that video were traveling that mall that night. we're just asking people that may have seen hannah to call us and perhaps they may be more helpful in providing us with information. >> gosh, you know, i keep thinking about this young woman's family. they have to be just on pins and
needles. for obvious reasons they're not doing media interviews. i imagine you have been in touch with the parents. how are they doing? >> you can imagine how they're doing. the sweetest people. they are so heartbroken and just can't understand how their daughter just vanished. a sweet child she was. so full of life and energy and now they just don't know what happened to her and dad told me this morning, he said, you know, chief, we want our privacy respected of course but this isn't about us. this is about hannah. this is about our daughter. this is about finding her. and they are so grateful to this community and hannah's friends and for all of the people that have come together to try to find hannah and bring her home to mom, dad, and the university and all the friends she has. >> hope you are able to do that, chief. thank you so much. charlottesville, virginia. great town. seems so safe. tim longo, thank you very much. coming up next, my next guest calls them bad ass women.
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the peshmerga forces. this piece was written that caught our eye in "foreign policy" and called meet the badass women fighting the islamic state." welcome. >> thank you for having me. >> you sought out to profile someone who was fighting who is female and you found this woman named avesta. tell me about her. >> well, she was a very, very interesting woman. a very, very interesting and brave fighter i must say. and it was just very much impressive to see what kind of woman she was. she was very much motivated and very much believed in what she was doing and she was also really a fighter of a very high quality given that she was a
sniper and not every fighter really gets to become a sniper. >> a female sniper. we should explain you're using past tense saying was because after writing this entire piece on her, she was killed. how did she die? >> well, on the night of september 12th, there was a joint operation by the kurdish peshmerga forces, iraqi peshmerga forces and guerrilla forces of the pkk to which avesta belonged and during that joint operation to take some villages from isis fighters, avesta was hit in the neck by a bullet and then she was transferred to a nearby town where they did some very basic treatment but then because her injuries were so severe and
heavy, she needed to be transported to a much better equipped hospital and on the way to erbil, she died. >> just going back, you write about how she was inspired to fight to join pkk because of her brother's death. he was killed and he was fighting and you wrote she told you "it was in the mountains that i found out women can also be powerful." she went to iraq during this fight against isis on mount sinjar because she heard about the women that were dying. >> she didn't go there herself but there are quite a few units of the pkk who are now fighting. the pkk is an organization that's been involved in an armed
struggle against the turkish military for almost three decades now. they've been fighting for kurdish rise in turkey and they are primarily based in the mountains in the border between iraq, turkey and iran. but as a result of the recent developments in northern iran, they went some fighters to areas where avesta was based and also to the place where the yazidi community has been living for some time. >> it's remarkable to put faces to these fighters and think of arab nations where there are women snipers fighting the fight against isis which is why we wanted to have you on. excellent reporting for y inini
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you are watching cnn our two here top of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin following breaking news now. this new video uploaded by isis militants. a british citizen captured in syria two years ago but unlike previous gruesome beheading videos we've seen, john kently is seen alive in that orange jumpsuit and stays alive through the video but we've made a decision not to show the video. we're not showing this isis propaganda. just a single frame as he's seen seating alone at a desk with a black backdrop, wooden table delivering what he says is the first of a series of messages about isis to the u.s. and to britain. joining me now, up until today his hostage status had been kept under this media blackout in the u.k.