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i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me today. we'll begin with a brand new concern. just raised about this first case of ebola in the united states. here's what we have just learned. we know the infected man was around children, school aged children to be precise. this is what we hear from the texas governor before being hospitalized in dallas. that announcement moments ago from texas governor rick perry. >> today we learned that some school aged children have been identified as having had contact with the patient and are now
being monitored at home for any signs of the disease. i know that parents are being extremely concerned about that development. let me assure these children have been identified and they are being monitored and the disease cannot be transmitted before having any symptoms. >> the country's first diagnosed ebola patient is listed in serious condition. he's isolated and under intensive care. a search is under way for anyone who came in close contact with the man after he arrived in texas from liberia, one of the o ebola hot spots to visit family here in the united states. tracing movements from that plane to dallas is crucial. the man's symptoms started days before he was diagnosed. he left liberia september 19th
and arrived in dallas the next day. started feeling kind of sick one week ago today and then went onto the emergency room on friday but was sent home. finally sunday he was taken by ambulance to the hospital where he was tested for ebola and placed in isolation. that test came back positive yesterday. elizabeth cohen is on the phone with me from dallas who was just in liberia and we'll get to that in just a minute. tons of questions in the wake of the news conference and hearing this guy was in contact with young kids. the first question is how fast might this spread? >> i think that it is very possible to take steps to control this. this is not sort of something that at this point would spread like wildfire. let me explain. i was told these five children are kin of the patient who was here. those five children attend four
different schools. so those children are being told not to go to school and they are being told to monitor themselves, which means checking to see if they feel sick and checking their temperature. all in all, we were told today that there are 12 to 18 contacts of the patient who is here at this hospital and that those patients are all being monitored. it's interesting. we said do those patients have to stay home and quarantine themselves at home? and they said this is not a kwa quarantine so it sounds like the contacts are free to move throughout the community as they see fit. >> can move around the community and self-monitor. okay. let's talk about you. just because obviously the concern is the fact that this man was on a plane and traveled many an hour back to texas. you were on a plane. you were near cnn crew. were you tested leaving liberia?
how stringent was that process? >> you can't test for ebola because for the test to work you have to get sick. if you're on the verge of it, you'll test negative because of the way the test works. let me tell you about the system in place. when i left monrovia, they took my temperature not once, not twice, but three times. they asked in questionnaires and in person have you had symptoms? have you felt sick? were you exposed to patients with ebola? did you attend a burial. it was rigorous. they wanted to see if perhaps you were lying, would your face show signs of sickness. when i got to the u.s., it wasn't as -- it was basically really no screening. none of us were asked about our exposure. we said we're journalists returning from liberia covering ebola. we put it out there.
they did not ask us about exposure. they didn't ask how close we got to patients with ebola. they didn't ask us how close we got to dead bodies. they didn't take our temperature. one of the -- >> hang on a second, did you say shouldn't be see if i have a fever? i have before covering this story for many days. >> when you left monrovia you didn't have a fever because they checked three times. this was now a good -- i would have to do the math but it was more than 12 hours later. that is a legitimate question. people can get sick in the course of time that they are flying and when people get sick with ebola, they get sick very, very quickly. the customs official working with me or immigration official working with me was about so say welcome home when he said wait a minute. i got an e-mail about people returning from a country like liberia. hold on a second. he went and confirmed with colleagues who conferred with
other colleagues and says we're supposed to tell you to monitor your systems, your health, for 21 days. i said, okay, what should i be looking for? they couldn't tell me. my other two colleagues weren't told to monitor their systems at all. nobody even mentioned anything about doing any monitoring for 21 days even though that's recommended by the cdc for people coming back from liberia. there seems to be some disconnect here between what travelers are supposed to be told coming back into the country and what happened to us on saturday. >> given what happened in dallas and what you're telling me on national tv, i have a feeling that's about to change. stay in close contact with us, please. i appreciate your reporting. best to you and the crew. we'll stay on this story. a lot of you are talking about this ebola story out of texas. do me a favor. tweet your questions. we'll have our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta who has been on this for months and months and he too was in africa not too long ago. send us your questions on
twitter and make sure you use hashtag hashtag ebolaqanda. now to the simple crime that's exposed system wide weaknesses in the force that protects the president. the man that allegedly jumped over the fence and ran into the white house is in front of a federal judge. he's omar gonzalez. he ran past a door into the lobby, past the stairs that led to the first family's residence through the first door and into the east room and then back into the hall where he was taken down. we are also learning about a new breach just three days before omar gonzalez allegedly got inside the white house with a knife there was a security contractor with a gun who was riding in an elevator with the president when he was visiting the centers for disease control in atlanta not too long ago.
and the secret service agent did not actually initially know that this guy had a weapon, that this guy had a gun. those details confirmed by the agency itself. as i mentioned, this happened recently when president obama was at the cdc talking about ebola and an official said while this security contractor was reprimanded for pulling out his cell phone trying to take pictures of president obama, the secret service then discovered he had the gun. the director of the agency failed to mention any of this during the three plus hours that members of congress landbasted it. >> what percentage of the time do you inform the president if his personal security is in any way, shape or form been
breached? >> 100% of the time we would advise the president. >> in calendar year 2014, how many times has that happened? >> i have not briefed him with the exception of one occasion for september 19th incident. >> all right. let's bring him in. jeffrey robinson co-author of "standing next to history" and jeffrey, judging by your body language and seeing you shake your head watching all of these details, unbelievable. >> i need to ask you a question. do you lock your front door? >> every day when i leave. >> that's right. that's right. >> what's your point? >> that's the moment. that's the precise moment we realized this is a catastrophe. the white house door was unlock. it was unmanned and unlocked. the white house door. now, there's a reason why this has been going on and you can trace it back for 15 or 16
years. tend of t at the end of the 1990s there was turmoil in the secret service as senior managers left. by 2002, george bush made a humongous error in creating homeland security and taking secret service out of treasury. they had been there since 1865. they worked in treasury and knew how to function in treasury and they are put into homeland security. the first obvious signs of problems came when george bush landed a deck of the "uss abraham lincoln." it was a dangerous, stupid stunt and they would have put their foot down. what happens a few years later? bush is in a press conference in iraq and an iraqi reporter threw a shoe at him. where's the secret service? he's staring at the president. he should be looking there. >> i hear that you're saying at
some point in time and i think it was in the '90s when i don't know if it was hemorrhaged or a lot were let go, part of the problem is these men and women who are secret service agents do not know firsthand what it's like when a president is shot at and that's a huge part of the problem. >> the agents themselves are terrific. they're the best and brightest and they live under enormous pressure. >> how did this happen? >> it's management problem. >> the secret service had no idea and allowed him in there with the president. >> since the early days of bush, the white house staff has eaten away at secret service power inside the white house. you see it in obama today when he makes a speech and there are 50 or 100 people behind him. dangerous situation. >> i'm sure they check their background. >> there's no agent within 15 feet of him. they need to be closer to get him through a clean exit. they need proximity and intensity and attention to
minute details. >> i hear you. you are the fifth person i talked to and heard from when it comes to management and leadership and that was obvious in the hearing we heard yesterday. let me play sound from cummings. >> what percentage of the time do you inform the president is his personal security is in any way, shape or form been breached? >> 100% of the time we would advise the president. >> in calendar year 2014, how many times has that happened? >> i have not briefed him with the exception of one occasion for the september 19th incident. >> they are both asking tough questions of pierson, the chief of the secret. if you say leadership, do you think it's fair -- let's give her the benefit of the doubt just for a second. she may have no idea what happened. >> no, no, no there is no
benefit of the doubt. absolutely not. the secret service cannot afford a mistake. a mistake is november 22nd, 1963. that's what a mistake looks like. they cannot afford a mistake. there's attention to minutist detail. >> is it not within the culture? are you pinning all this on one person? >> no. it's the management team. the culture has slipped into the management team with no proximity and no intensity and no attention to detail. i have the solution. simple solution. you bring in new management team who worked on ppd, presidential protection division, and you bring in on an ad hoc kind of way, you bring in agents who got it right. you bring them in on a volunteer basis to reinstill in the secret service the intensity and proximity and attention to
detail because they cannot afford a failure. it's catastrophic if they fail. >> are you worried about the president's security? >> i am with this bunch. absolutely. the reagan people knew what it was to almost lose a president. these people don't. >> thank goodness by the way. i understand your point loud and clear. thank you so much. i really appreciate you coming on. just ahead, as the search is under way for people who came in contact with ebola, we'll speak live with someone from that local community and he has a special request for everyone who may know that patient. plus, live on cnn, isis terrorists attacking a key city on the turkey/syrian border leaving behind black clouds as the group gets closer to the city center all of this happening hours after the united states and coalition launched its biggest bombing campaign yet in this war. you're watching cnn's special live coverage.
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today by asking for a confidence te -- competency test. there was a mental health assessment and the judge said there should be a competency test to see if he's competent to stand trial. there was reporting he suffered from post-traumatic stress after serving in the iraq war. his defense attorney says there's no need for that. he says "it's so clear this is not appropriate. there's no basis to think that he's not competent to stand trial." the prosecution did not challenge the defense on this. so what happened today is the defense basically wants to delay the judge's order for this competency test so it can challenge it. >> competency issue but then also just going back to a couple weeks ago when this all happened, do we have a number as to how many members of the secret service gonzalez actually got past? >> reporter: we don't have a
specific number. it was talked about yesterday in the hearing. the secret service director was grilled by congress members yesterday and she said that there was a secret service agent that he overpowered at the front door of the white house. he was able to get past that secret service agent and there was a chase that ensued and then he was eventually apprehended at the east room of the white house pretty deep into the white house as one congress member said. that's half a white house tour for the american public. and then we also learned that there were two off-duty secret service agents that helped to assist in the apprehension. as far as how many agents he actually was able to get past or officers he was able to get past, that's unclear. we do know that there were five rings of security. he was able to get past five layers of security deep into the white house. initially the secret service didn't give any indication of a chase or struggle or how deep
into the white house. the revelations from the director herself was astounding. she too is outraged by what happened. >> outraged but a lot of people calling for her job. thank you so much, pamela. we'll take you back to our special coverage on the first case of ebola here in the united states as the search is under way for people, anyone, who this individual came in contact with. we'll talk live with someone from his local community and he has a special request for everyone who may know the patient. stay with me. people with type 2 diabetes
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i'm brooke baldwin. the first case of ebola diagnosed in the united states certainly raising some concerns about perhaps nowhere is that concern more acute than in the liberian community in dallas where the ebola patient is hospitalized. stanley gay is president of the liberian community association of dallas-ft. worth. he joins me now. mr. gay, welcome. >> thank you for inviting me. >> so just listening to that news conference and governor of your state, rick perry, basically saying this patient did indeed come into contact with school aged children. they're being monitored. that has to concern you. >> a big concern because the kids have been taken to a school and we are concerned within the community that young kids have been in contact with the person
that has the ebola virus. >> do you know of any of these children or a reporter saying he came into contact with 12 to 18 individuals who are allowed to move within the community on their own volition. >> i do not know any of the kids or the parents so what we are doing is the liberian community is reaching out to the community and ask people that have been in contact with this person to reach out to the cdc and should not be afraid or ashamed of this or embarrassed. it could happen to anyone. the best way is to catch it at a early stage and look for symptoms and reach out to the cdc and go to nearby hospital to have themselves checked. >> interesting you used the word
ashamed. this is something i heard about in villages in africa, the sense of shame and stigma that comes with ebola and so is that something, is that pervasive in your community the fear that if someone comes forward and says i have it or i have family who have it, they are shunned. >> yes, it is. that's why we try to encourage liberians to -- we don't like to speak of our sickness so we try to stay away because we think people will say negative things about them. so again, i encourage them to reach out to the cdc and hospital if they have been in contact with the person in question. >> reach out to cdc. you also say to members of your community, don't all get together. mass gatherings are part of the liberian culture but for now asking community members to hold off on that.
stanley gaye, thank you for coming on with me. we appreciate it. a big issue in your community and really the greater dallas area for now. quick programming note for you, nancy writebol will join anderson cooper tonight. watch the interview at 8:00 eastern here on cnn. breaking news in the war against isis. we're live on the turkey/syria border where fighting erupted and terrorists are dangerously close to the center of a key city there. plus, are u.s. air strikes working against isis? it appears the group is growing holding onto its territory. we'll look at how far they've come in just a short period of time. stay here. [ female announcer ] we lowered her fever. you raise her spirits. we tackled your shoulder pain. you make him rookie of the year. we took care of your cold symptoms. you take him on an adventure.
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for several days we've been watching the battle for a city in northern syria. today a ominous change as cnn filmed from a safe distance away. let me show you the pictures. smoke as we look at the map began to rise from inside kobani. cnn's phil black was right there at the battle front. >> reporter: for much of the day smoke hung over the city of kobani behind me as we have heard and witnessed a constant shelling, bombardment on the
eastern outskirts of the city. the isis advance is still very close indeed. to the west we saw isis fighters at close quarters trying to break through the lines of kurdish fighters that are resisting them. on that front isis is using light weapons. it is not the main thrust of the isis advance. that's what we've been witnessing here. but we've also been hearing aircraft overhead for much of the day. and the united states said that air strikes were conducted at isis targets within this region. an armored vehicle and artillery piece as well. each heavy weapon to get knocked out evens the playing field just a little and there's no doubt it's slowed that isis advance but isis still has greater numbers. it still has the ability to be resupplied unlike the kurdish fighters trying to hold them off. isis advance has been slow but
not stopped. >> and phil black joins me now from the border area. he's moved just down the road from the piece. we have new tape shot by isis. let's just all watch together. >> i don't know if your eyes have seen this video and if you can walk us through what we're seeing and give us an an update on the town of kobani. >> it shows fighters using heavy machine gun of some kind gets
fleeing kurdish fighters and using it with devastating affect. it's not nice video to watch. it shows what these fighters are really up against here. it shows how they are out gunned and it shows the determination of isis fighters in their advance toward the city that you heard me discussing earlier and it really shows what a battle -- what a hard pitched battle and really just how the odds and the circumstances are very much against those few remaining kurdish fighters trying to prevent isis from overrunning their city there. >> why is this sort of such this prize for isis? you have been reporting that it's emptied out. why do they want this town that's virtually -- all of the people have left. >> reporter: isis is in the business of claiming territory and holding onto it and trying to build a big islamic state.
that's the goal. in this case it's claiming new territory all of the way to the turkish border. this gives it a clear run of land from the turkish border to the city of raqqa. the border is crucial to us because through this border it's been resupplied in various ways. it's a key smuggling point for contraband becoack and forth. so for these reasons. it's strategic. it's important. and of course for people that are defending it, it's their homeland. it's their communities and their villages and towns and not just the city but dozen of villages across the surrounding region as well. most of those people have left. hundreds of thousands of them have moved into turkey in what can be described as a dignified way dropping everything they own to trek across the desert to try
to find safety but there is that determined few still behind really fighting to the very end to try and stop isis from taking over their homes and communities. >> phil black, thank you so much once again for us. stunning images we're able to share on cnn of really taking it to the front lines of this fight. with me in new york, a man at the center of the hunt for global terrorist, former fbi among other things. he's interrogated some of the worst of the worst and high valued targets and knows these terrorists as well as anyone can. thank you for coming back this week. do you think just given all of these different u.s. and coalition air strikes and not only what's happening in kobani but we've been reporting that we're getting reports two iraqi border towns previously seized by isis are now being recaptured. do you think isis is having to recalibrate their strategy in the wake of everything that's been happening? >> absolutely. the air strikes are working.
isis -- >> they are working? >> isis strategy is to control land. the land grab. in order to grab land, you need to have resources. you need not only grab land but hold land and you need resources and you need to have local support and it all depends on the coalition actions. i'm not talking about only air strikes but also about the coalition actions on the ground. the coalition actions in building grassroots sunni opposition or grassroots public opposition against isis. so far isis has been holding and grabbing land in areas that actually people really don't like isis. they don't like ideology of isis but mostly they are sunnis and they have been oppressed and there's no other alternative than isis. now what we need to do is after the air strikes, we need to deprive isis from their resources. for example, in iraq, isis controlled 1.1 million tons of
wheat. most of the silos in five provinces that isis controlled in iraq are government silos full of wheat. they are using bread. they are using wheat as a weapon. they are using oil as a weapon. they are using fear as a weapon. they are using finances as a weapon. for example, if you have your money in iraqi bank under the isis control, you can only take 10% of the value of your money. so they are trying to control the people and what we need to do is what general allen was saying before on another show and he's a great person to handle this is how can we take it into building a grassroots coalition to stand against isis. >> if u.s. and coalition air strikes are successful in the sense they stopped the land grab, so you want to stop the land grab and stop them grabbing more, you want to push them back. >> diminish resources. >> dish member. i talked to john concerkirby fr pentagon and he said we're going
across oil refineries but bigger picture is you mention wheat and other resources, are they losing swagger for lack of a better word? i don't think winning would be the right word yet. >> too early to talk about victory. i think we start seeing a shape of a plan. a plan that is going to deprive isis from some of their major resources on the ground, physical resources, tanks, armed command and control and armored divisions and so forth. also at the same time, we start to see that people are standing up for isis. for example, the people of kobani. kobani is a kurdish village very close. they didn't give up. they didn't run away. the iraqi forces are taking back land. i think the air strike is working so far but we cannot depend only on air strikes. i think the state department did a great job creating the
regional coalition -- >> that won't ultimately destroy them. >> we need to take that regional coalition from doing only air strikes and put them on the ground to create especially the muslim partners of the coalition to create regional grassroots to create domestic grassroots to stand up against isis. >> so many groups. so many bad guys. quickly let me tend with khorasan. if he is dead, how much hit on that ground? >> that's significant. all of the team are sent from headquarters to syria and he's one of the leaders of that group sent to assist to set up al qaeda operations in syria. a kuwaiti guy involved in a lot of operations of al qaeda from early on. he was in jail in kuwait for a few years. he went back and joined the
leadership and he was based for some period of time in iran. he is one of the individuals that can be considered an old timer in al qaeda and getting rid of him is a good hit. >> thank you so much. come back. we'll take you any time we can get you. coming up next, learning new details about the person infected with ebola here in america and the questions are pouring in. how are airports screening people? how long do symptoms take to kick in? dr. sanjay gupta will join in to answer your questions. keep them coming. hash tag ebolaqanda.
being treated. his infection obviously has people worried that ebola can spread and if you have been looking on facebook and twitter you have also seen the rumors and theories about the disease spreading. let's cut the fact and fiction here. cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta here at the cdc in atlanta to just walk us through. let's not be alarmists if we shouldn't be. a lot of people have tweeted us with questions and so we have just a couple questions i want to get to. the first question this man asks is got here on an airplane full of people. who knows -- talking about this patient -- who knows how many people may have been exposed. that's the question. >> well, a couple important points here. a couple important facts. one is that when he got on the plane, he wasn't sick. when he got off of the plane, he wasn't sick. very important because one thing that we keep hearing over and over again that's an important point is you don't spread this
virus until you are sick yourself. so the fact that he is known as incubation period carrying the virus in his body but not spreading it. the people on the plane say there's no cause for concern. in fact, they haven't released any of the information about the flight. when we asked them to give us some of the information about the flight, they say there's no cause for concern. those people are not considered contacts. not people that we'll follow and trace. >> okay. then another question similar to the travel issue is what are airports do to screen people coming to the united states internationally? >> well, i can tell you when i was in west africa, when i left guinea, west africa, there was a screening protocol in place there. that's where screening is most important. you prevent people from getting on a plane who have any kind of signs of illness. that's what you are trying to do. they took my temperature and asked me a bunch of questions about what i had been doing and if there was any chance i had
been in contact with ebola patients. i had no symptoms. that's what happens over there. if someone were to land in the united states and have developed symptoms, they got on the plane totally healthy and got off and now sick, then that would prompt a medical evaluation once they got here to the united states. the real key to this is trying to detect or screen before people get on planes from countries where ebola is known to be such as these three countries in west africa. >> i'm sure you were watching the news conference at the hospital in dallas. one of the doctors saying the likelihood of this spreading is small. again, the question from someone else is why should the public trust? why should they trust these doctors that ebola won't spread? what's your answer to that? >> you know, look, it's spreading in west africa. i think about these things from a more global sense. when we say it's not spreading, it is spreading in west africa. this is the worst outbreak in ebola history in west africa. the question that they are
really asking is will it spread in the united states? i think what we're hearing and confirming is that the infrastructure for public health is just so much better here. you can isolate people. you can provide the treatments in terms of fluids or giving them blood products. we know two patients came here for treatment that are doing well and they were able to be contained. it didn't lead to more infections. i will say in this particular situation here, you know the story of this man in dallas, there was an error made here. the patient went to the hospital on the 26th of september and was sent home despite the fact he said he was in liberia and he had fevers. those are red flags not followed up upon and that was a mistake. as a result he may have had contact with many more people. as a general rule, i think the idea of this turning into an outbreak in the united states is really, really small. >> as you pointed out too as far as the hospital, the patient and a nurse did communicate about him coming in from west africa but something was lost in
translation and didn't make it to the doctors as you said that was a problem. thank you so much for answers some viewers' questions. keep them coming. coming up next, isis is already in control of several major cities in syria and iraq. exactly how much land has this group taken over since january and which areas might they target next? we'll show you. stay here. ♪ who's going to do it? who's going to make it happen? discover a new energy source. turn ocean waves into power. design cars that capture their emissions. build bridges that fix themselves. get more clean water to everyone. who's going to take the leap? who's going to write the code? who's going to do it? engineers. that's who. that's what i want to do. be an engineer. ♪ [ male announcer ] join the scientists and engineers of exxonmobil in inspiring america's future engineers. energy lives here.
islamic militants threatening to take new territory in another country as they close in on this key border town straddling syria and turkey. turkey is defending their border near kobani. and this is happening over the last week. let me bring in editor of foreign affairs. as we walk through this together here, my first question to you is about turkey. we now have reporting and we know troops and we know tanks are perched along the border. no ground movement as of yet. what do you think it will take for them to engage? >> turks tried to stay out of this. they don't want to lose any territory and they don't want to see the situation explode even further. they also don't want the united states to get angry at turkey for staying out. the more this embroils turkey, the more they are forced to engage a little bit but they
won't be a dramatically powerful and aggressive member of the coalition. they'll be a reluctant one protecting what's theirs and trying to not make others mad. >> you see them -- >> they will get more involved. they don't want to see even further chaos. >> the administration acknowledged the land grab and territorial grab and handing to the territory surprised them since beginning of january. they have not taken baghdad but giving you a sense of geography, we watch where the capital is. flash forward. major change. you see red and yellow. this is july. they captured more territory working southward to the prized spot of the capital. a smidgen change by september. you put it perfectly talking about the petri dish analogy. >> what's happening is not just about isis but the environment in which isis is operating. syria has been in civil war and
chaos for several years allowing there to be uncontrolled areas in which isis could get ahold up here. that's what started it. iraq had three sections but a government in baghdad under the shia who didn't care about the other communities, kurds and the sunnis, and annoyed them. there was a formal government authority in iraq but really the sunnis were getting increasingly disinfected. what happened this year was isis moves into this area. the sunnis basically go we like you more than we like the government of iraq and so they side with the rebels coming into them and iraqi forces are at this point hallowed out and the government finds itself not in control. that's large part of their expansion. they have reached the wide limits. >> you know that sunnis do not exist everywhere. >> you have shia down here and governments controlling baghdad. you have kurds up here. you have turks up here.
you have syrian government over here. at this point i think that isis really has reached a natural limits of its logical expansion. we got surprised by its rapid speed of its advance because we didn't realize just how hallowed out iraq had become and we didn't realize that isis wanted to control that much territory. >> a lot of hopes pinned on this new government as well. >> people are getting too hyper in the odirectither direction. at this point they have been contained. they've started to be pushed back a little bit as well by the kurds and by our air strikes and so forth. maybe you can get a coalition together to keep pushing them and constraining them. the worst is over and the question or at least the worst part of their advance is over. at this point how do you dislodge them from where they are and not worrying about what comes next. >> thank you so much. hopefully the worst of that advancement is over. i'm holding you to your word. quick break. we're back after this. ugh. heartburn.