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there are two patients for every bed. more patients. it's unrelenting. but there are the success stories. and that's what assistance the staff. around the back of the ebola ward, patients spot the camera and begin to wave. they're recovering, maybe even going home soon but for the staff, there is no end in sight. what happens when you for anoth day. >> reporter: and another day and other day. until their prayers are finally answered. >> that's it for me. i'll be back at 5:00 p.m. eastern in "the situation room." for international viewers, christiane amanpour is next and
for our american viewers, "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. >> thank you so much. let me pick up where you left off. as you heard, the family of the ebola patient who died on u.s. soil claims he did not get the medical care he needed because of his race. but my next guest says human error cost thomas eric duncan his life. first, let me remind you how massive this outbreak has gotten all around the world. to the map we go, there have been five cases treated in the u.s. overseas, several countries in western africa and now spain are battling infections and of course that number could grow. in a speech today before the world bank group, cdc director dr. tom frieden says timely reaction is key to stopping the spread. >> i would say in 30 years i have worked in public health, the only thing like this has been aids.
with he have to work now so that this is not the world's next aids. we can do that, i think exactly as was said by all of the three presidents. speed is the most important variable here. >> dr. frieden stressed quick detection can make all the difference. joining me now, todd robinson. todd, nice to have you on. >> thanks for having me. >> so just reading your piece in the paper, the headline said it to me. "thomas duncan did not have to die." you argue a few more questions and better communication could have saved this man's life. the fact that he was highly contagious when he first went to that hospital and then was sent home, how did that happen? >> it was the lack of verbal communication between nurses and doctors. the people who were on the front lines dealing with him. they were too busy putting information into their computers
or writing it down on their clipboards and they didn't bother to relay crucial information by voice that would have warned them this was a special case. this was someone who had just come from liberia. >> we are asking the same questions that you and other reporters are. one reporter earlier in the week asked a question of the texas department of health saying there was a flaw in the electronic system and backed off saying it's being looked into. specifically, you're pinpointing the issue that it was not orally passed along. had nurses or doctors passed along in person face to face the information he came from liberia, the game would have changed. >> exactly. this should never have been treated like a routine emergency room case. they are supposed to ask the patients have you been traveling
recently? where have you been traveling from? where did you come from? in this case, there's a little bit of discrepancy from the hospital whether he answered that question as i came from africa or i recently traveled from africa or whether he specifically said liberia. but the question isn't supposed to be what continent did you come from, it's supposed to be what country did you come from? and that would have alerted muc. then there's the other layer. we have a dallas county commissioner by the name of john wylie price suggesting this man was denied immediate treatment because of his race and because of his income but you say that it is unproductive to even go
there. what's your explanation? >> exactly. john wylie price is famous for making these statements and introducing race into just about any discussion. this is a guy who was famous for denouncing one of his fellow commissioners for using the term black hole. he said it was a racist remark. so that gives you a bit of the context behind his remarks. this wasn't a race issue. it was an issue of doctors being alerted to an international health alert and following the directives that they were given by the cdc. >> what about, todd, just off of this specific case but the fact that you are there, this is -- if i may ground zero for ebola in the united states where you are in dallas and so now that we're starting to see these pop-up ebola scares in your state, you're talking to people. is there a sense of true fear?
what's the sense from people in dallas? >> everybody is talking about it. everybody is nervous about it. everybody has their own solution to what should happen. shut down all flights from africa. ted cruz wants to shut down the border with mexico. that would cure ebola and the isis problem in syria and iraq. >> what about not ted creuz? what about regular folks in your state? >> regular people are just talking about it a lot. wherever you go, restaurants, on the tennis court, it's what everybody wants to talk about. and i happen to play tennis just a few blocks from the apartment complex where he was staying. it's been on my mind a lot. you think about little things about do i need to be careful about door handles that i touch and things like that. it's obvious that just some extra sanitation precautions on
everybody's part would calm everyone's nerves but this is such an isolated case, everybody hopes that it will be limited to just one case. perhaps there is a risk of other. this is just one case. >> hopefully it is one and done in the united states. todd, thank you so much for your reporting and coming on the show. i appreciate it. as we focus on ebola, let me switch gears and talk about the dow. have you checked the numbers right now? look at this. hugely in the red. down 300 points. less than two hours to go before that closing bell. let's check in with alison ko k kosik. >> it's the same reason that made it jump yesterday is the reason we are seeing the market plunge today. what happened yesterday was the fed came out with minutes from the latest meeting in september saying we're going to go slow. we won't rush into raising interest rates. the market said great.
this is music to our ears but then they thought today, what exactly is the fed chief really saying? this and what she's really saying is the global picture is not going well. germany is the biggest economy in the european union and now it looks like that r word, recession, is being tossed about concerning germany. that's
>> let's go live to st. louis to missouri's state senator. senator, welcome. >> thank you so much. >> let me begin with this specific incident and we can broaden it out. police recovered this .9 millimeter gun that this young man allegedly used to begin firing first at the officers. knowing those details and seeing the pictures of the people out on the streets last night, do you think these protests were warranted? >> i have to tell you that misinformation is one of the key components to how people respond. we have to make sure that we know what is going on. i know last night we had a couple of different stories
going on. one saying the young man did have a gun and others who were talking about the fact that he had a sandwich. not a gun. unfortunately, a lot of the ways that people find out what is going on is on social media. because there is sometimes a misrepresentation on social media, some of the protesters may have looked at some of those tweets and just thought that this was an incident very similar to michael brown. we have to be very concerned about the information and its accuracy that we get. >> let me ask you this as you point to accuracies and inaccuracies. do you believe police when they say they found this gun? >> that question started last night. if they found a gun, they found a gun. i know a lot of officers who are in the st. louis city metropolitan police department and i know they don't want to look like ferguson. i know that they're going to do the best job they possibly can to get out all of the facts. that's what they have done for
the last seven weeks and it's my hope that all of the facts are made clear and transparent for everyone in the region. >> okay. then so that shooting yesterday and then in a totally separate incident. you tweeted gun shots being fired in your direction in ferguson. can you tell me what happened? >> yes. i was coming back from a late lunch and i don't think i even closed the door to my car and i heard three gunshots. my staff heard about four gunshots. right behind our parking lot there are a set of trees and bushes and right on the other side is an apartment complex. i did not know whether i was being targeted or not. i ended up that the gunshots were random by a group of people who wanted to randomly shoot one of the people who was trying to duck down from being shot was actually shot and i know that i felt like a deer in headlights
at the time and my staff told me to start running into my office and we locked the door and we took precautions and we listened to what was going on as many officers came to the attention of this incident. >> what's going on here do you think? >> a lot. a lot of confusion. you know what? all of us are i think at a point where we're concerned about our own safety but at the same time we want to demonstrate. there are a lot of young people who are still hurt because there are so many groups that are out there, it is very possible where people listen to some groups and they have a little bit more control than others. there are some folks in here though who want to incite. i implore everyone who is listening to this and who plan to come to st. louis this weekend for our weekend of resistance, that we try to self-identify those people who do not have our best intentions at heart. we want to demonstrate
peacefully, but we have to self-police at this point and that's for every single person who values their life and the life of others. >> i'm so glad you brought that up. this weekend is supposed to be huge and it's all about as you have said many times before peace. peaceful demonstrations. thank you so much for joining me from st. louis. just ahead here, cnn cameras capture a b-1 bomber circling a border city under attack by isis. the terrorists getting closer and closer to taking over this city. we've been telling you about kobani. we'll take you there live. also ahead, there is now word a passenger from malaysian air flight 17 was found wearing an oxygen mask. remember this was the story shot out of the sky allegedly landing in eastern ukraine? that's not the entire story. as america debates the right to die, a terminally ill woman gets ready to end her life. coming up, we'll actually talk live with the man who lost his wife after she made that very
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the turkish side of the border. they can see what's happening in kobani but cannot be seen from syria. turkey has a hefty military presence along the border but they're not stepping in to help kurdish fighters battle isis in the streets. i want you to see this now. our cameras capture this b-1 bomber circling kobani today. the u.s. conducted fewer air strikes than in the past couple days. the kurds could use more help. they lost territory they recaptured from isis. let's take you there. what's the situation now that it's just after 9:00 your time? >> reporter: brooke, we can still see and hear that b-1 bomber circling overhead. there was a loud explosion that we suspect to be air strikes and above the city of kobani there was this thick column of smoke. thick and black. dramatic looking from a region where we had seen a number of large explosions that we
suspected to be air strikes during the day. that was outside the city mostly. inside those kurdish fighters resisting isis reported a day of very tough fighting. largely because they say isis received large numbers of reinforcements overnight. what it meant was they didn't have the numbers, the firepower to hold onto the territory that they had taken from isis the day before. in the east of the city, there's still flying clearly the black flag of isis, brooke. >> the black flags, smoke, we're watching to see if and when they grab it. phil black, thank you so much on the border for us again today. >> as this terminally ill newlywed gets ready to end her life sparking this massive debate here in america. i'll talk live with a man who lost his own wife just a few years ago who also decided to take that lethal dose. you'll hear their emotional story about why she had doubts before her death. please don't miss this. >> wow, this is a great day.
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she lives in oregon, one of five states that allows terminally ill patients to take lethal medication. >> i will die upstairs in my bedroom that i share with my husband with my mother and my husband by my side. i can't even tell you the amount of relief that it provides me to know that i don't have to die the way that it's been described to me that my brain tumor would take me on its own. >> state report finds that brittany maynard is one of 1,300 people who have received this prescription for these lethal drugs in oregon. many have not or will not choose to take those pills but one woman who did. her name is cody curtis. she was profiled in "how to die in oregon." let me play one clip of this film. >> right now because it's so up and down and there are things that are still working, it seems
like a choice that i don't want to take just yet. there's enough good days but i know it will get to the point where i'm not enjoying things and i'm a burden. in which case that choice will seem easy and obvious. i'll be grateful and i've had a little preview of that this week. because when the fever gets high, it hurts. i just think wouldn't it be nice to just close my eyes and drift off. >> that was cody and joining me now, her husband, stan curtis. stan, it's a pleasure to talk to you. i dare anyone to watch this film without needing a box of clinics. you lived this. so i really appreciate you taking the time with me today.
cody passed in 2009 and as the love of her life, stan, at any point during this, did you try to talk her out of it? >> no, not really. i think we had great deal of confidence in her moral beliefs and her ability to make choices in important situations. i was surprised that she had the courage to make this kind of a choice but my job was to help her. >> just hearing your voice five years later, this is still pretty painful. important. yeah. i think we're proud of the story, and i think like brittany, i think she really made it a story about living and
getting the meaning as much as she could from life as an example for others. it's been a big story for us. >> i love how you talk about pride. forgive me for interrupting. i love how you talk about pride. we'll play a clip about that when you talk about that in the film. hearing your wife say it's my choice when to take these pills. it's my choice whether or not i will ever take them. i will know when that time comes. it seems to me, stan, that so much of this seems about just being able to control. >> yeah. i think there's a certain style that you have a certain meaning you want to share. i think cody's preference would have been a natural death and that snippet you shared actually was per preferred scenario.
she nearly had passed away from infections and fevers multiple times and i learned and worked with her on how to recover from those conditions and we worked out with the doctor that that would be a painless way to go so that was one of the preferred scenarios. it was part of the learning experience how death happens and how to be graceful about supporting it. >> she talks a lot about this notion of waiting for the day. waiting for her to choose when she will die and just for you as her partner, what is that like knowing any given day could be the day? >> well, that's sort of a negative framing of it. >> forgive me. i didn't mean to be negative. >> part of what happened is we learned to refrain those kind of
questions. so we really treasured every day. and i think in another part of the movie "the golden summer" kind of explained the switch. it was really fun for us to see that switch and be part of that framing of not being afraid of a disease that we didn't understand but making the most of the meaning so celebrating flowers and recipes and stories. so i think that lifestyle brittany is embracing a similar style that this is about capturing the moment and living to the fullest moment by moment. i think that's a choice people
are scared to make and brave to make. >> i love how you talk about the grace and courage and the bravery. let me just give you a moment. i'm so grateful to have you. let's get a quick break in. more questions here after this. turn the trips you have to take, into one you'll never forget. earn triple points when you book with the expedia app. expedia plus rewards.
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determines when and where and how it will happen with grace and dignity. his terminally ill wife, cody, made that decision as profiled in the film "how to die in oregon." here's another clip. >> i think she rather not have to choose. i think she would rather gracefully let nature take its course. she was prepared for that to not be an easy course. and so it's not about the stint or the liters of fluid. it's about her state of mind and her pride in herself and her pride in us and our pride in ourselves and our pride in her and that doesn't get talked about very much and doesn't get said nearly enough. >> stan, you allowed these documentary cameras to capture
these final moments of your wife's life. let me just play one more scene. this is the scene at the end of the film when cody is surrounded by loved ones before she takes the final dose. it is incredibly emotional. i just want our audience to see it. ♪ you are my sunshine ♪ my only sunshine ♪ you make me happy when skies are gray ♪ ♪ you'll never know dear how much i love you ♪ >> what was that like? >> it was nearly christmas, and we had a really strong family tradition of sing iing carols a traditional song and a lot of the family are quite musical.
our daughter especially sung the harmony parts were celebrated so we didn't really -- we didn't really plan the last scene in any way. we were just doing traditional things. we had a traditional fudge and popcorn ball and we just decided that we would do some christmas songs. so that was -- and then we didn't pick that song intentionally. it was kind of hard to remember the meanings of that particular verse so we laughed and broke out into "jingle bells" to
recover and get back into the right spirit. i think death is one of those where it's part of life. so we did a really good job with our dog celebrating and understanding that, and i think with cody it was much harder and much bigger but to have her mother there and her father there who were uncomfortable with the whole scenario to be there celebrating with us was terrific. in the sports analogy, that's a very difficult play and from a school analogy, we were worried about the final exam, but we all thought we got an a. that was great. >> stan, this is tough watching the film.
it's tough talking to you. i so appreciate you coming on. since cody's passing, i have such respect for you for five years later having the strength to come on and tell her story. what do you miss most about your wife? >> you know, we think of her a lot. what would cody do? we're very supportive of the story. it's a big part of the family in terms of the meaning of life day-to-day and the meaning of traditions that seem simple but in the end were very valuable. we used to joke about the recipes but now everybody keeps the family recipes carefully. and i think the understand of the value and kids to be able to celebrate and be getting a standing ovation at sundance, to be part of the evolution.
my daughter just got married. she's 30 years old. she gets the meaning of the story. >> congratulations to her. >> so we're very appreciative of this. i think the theory of story by story building a better community is something new to me as a science and part of startups and part of the ongoing incubation of the story for others and i thank brittany for doing such a careful job and i thank hbo for sponsoring such a well done documentary. peter was brilliant. >> he joined us yesterday. after seeing cody's story, i said we have to talk to stan. i appreciate you spending all this time with me and sharing your story again on cnn. thank you so much. >> yes. cheers. >> we'll be right back.
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he entered this unsanitized apartment where duncan stayed just days before his death. let's go to elizabeth cohen. tell me about the sheriff's deputy. does this mean he tested negative for ebola? >> we're expecting test results later this afternoon. the judge overseeing this effort said there's zero percent, i looked down to be sure i was reading that right, zero percent chance he has ebola. he didn't have an exposure to ebola so therefore he's not at risk for ebola. >> why was that even a possibility? >> i think what happened is that when he fell ill and went to the urgent care center, the message to first responders was he had contact with mr. duncan. we don't know how that mistake
was made because he didn't. once that call goes out, you have to do a full-court press. you have to do the whole thing. >> makes sense. >> this shocking video of this police officer smashing the window and tazing this man and now the family is suing and it turns out this police officer has a history with excessive force. narrator: these are the skater kid: whoa narrator: that got torture tested by teenagers
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and anger among many who have watched it. police officers in hammond, indiana, smashing this car window, tazing the passenger over a routine traffic stop. now the family is suing the city and local police for excessive force. if you have not seen it, take a look again. >> all right. >> are you going to open the door? >> people are getting shot by the police. >> damn! >> two children in the back seat of the vehicle. you hear some of them screaming. they are also named in this lawsuit. the whole family talked to don lemon and shared what happened from their point of view. >> i felt harm to my family so i wasn't going to leave my family in the car when they have their weapons drawn. i felt to protect my family to stay in the vehicle. >> i started videotaping it because i knew he was doing wrong and when the windows
shattered after they hit it, i felt scared. i was scared. that's what really gave me the courage to keep videotaping it because i was scared and i knew if we took this to court, we have something to fight against them because police have more power than us and the video shows. >> that's the family. the statement from the police department says the officers were following procedures but according to records, the police officer has been sued three times for excessive force settling a case in 2007. so we had to bring you back. private investigator. security specialist. also former police officer. thanks for coming back. beginning with this, if you were the boss, if you were in charge of this police department in indiana, how would you handle this officer right now? >> right now he would definitely be immediately reassigned and he
would be taken off patrol until such time as the particulars in this situation are sorted out. the thing that jumps out is that it seems that what was the urgency in getting that passenger out of the vehicle? also, we got to backup. the initial car stop was based on seat belt violation. the last time i checked the traffic code, the driver is responsible for the occupants of a vehicle. so their concern should have been initially with the driver. and she would have been the one cited for the other occupants not being restrained. i don't know why they were putting so much attention on the passenger. we can speculate and come to different conclusions but if their intent was to cite her or to make her aware that she and the occupants were not properly
restrained, they could have been a warning or a citation and they could have moved on. >> here's my concern. you talk about the occupants. children. two children. i keep thinking about the 7 year old and the 14 year old in the back seat. if you were an officer and you're coming up upon a car, justified or not, the fact that there are kids in the car as an officer, does that change the dynamic? >> it should. it certainly should. it's a matter of sensitivity training. officers are people. they're human beings like everyone else. you would want to think how would i want to be treated in this particular scenario. mind you, keep in mind officer safety following policies and procedures and protocol, that's all fine. it doesn't have anything to do with your pleasant approach, maintaining control of the situation, but being aware of and sensitive to how is this
encounter going to affect those young people in that back seat? >> especially because it was 13 minutes. this whole thing lasted for 13 minutes. it wasn't quick. i am thinking officers would have time to process the scenarios within the car for whatever reason they wanted this passenger to get out of the car before smashing the window and tazing the individual. doesn't the length of time matter? >> it doesn't matter so much in that -- it matters to me they could have taken more time. what was the hurry? what was the urgency. there again, it goes back to what was the point. was the point that you were going to impose your will on that passenger to get out of that vehicle or was your point to admonish the driver and occupants about not being properly restrained operating a motor vehicle. it boils down to proper training. >> maybe the justice system figures out what the point of this was.
a traffic accident changes a young woman's life forever or so she thought. take a look at this week's "human factor." >> the only thing i did different was unbuckle my seat belt. >> a split second decision that changed the life of 26-year-old sara. >> i was driving down on interstate 5. a drive that i had done hundreds
of times. >> this drive turned terribly wrong. the last memory she had of that day was unbuckling her seat belt and grabbing a can of soda rolling along the floorboard. >> i have done it before. grab your purse. grab whatever on the passenger side. >> reporter: but her car veered off the highway ejecting her from the back windshield. >> that was it. i snapped my back in half and compressed my spinal cord. >> instantly paralyzed from her mid chest down. days after the accident, she was asked to participate in the world's first human embryonic stem cell trial for spinal cord injuries. doctors need volunteers to act as human guinea pigs in order to test the safety of experimental treatments but it would not help with her recovery now she was told. doctors warned her it could possibly make things worse but still she said yes. >> i would like for future injuries to have an option.
have a treatment available. have hope because i know it's very hopeless in the beginning and you think your life is over. >> two years since the accident, her life is far from over. she's back to school, has become a young advocate for stem cell research and this summer she even learned how to surf. dr. sanjay gupta, cnn reporting. continuing our two. top of the hour. list of airports adding extra ebola screenings growing as i speak. all of this comes as the death of the liberian national thomas eric duncan sparks more fears about transition of this virus. in the united states, these are the five of the biggest airports. you have newark, chicago, o'hare specifically, dulles, jfk, atlanta. they will begin conducting temperature screenings for people traveling from the affected regions of libe