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hello and welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. glad to be back with you. >> good to have you back here, zane. i'm errol barnett. coming up for you this hour, as an american ebola patient fights for her life, health care workers are demanding better training and equipment to keep them safe from the disease. >> plus, this is the world the world has seen of kim jong-un. there he is there. but the government photos are doing little to quell speculation about the north korean leader. and oscar pistorius is already in court for the second day of his sentencing hearing. but we begin with ebola. safety procedures are under review after a nurse became the first person to contract ebola
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in the united states. >> she's identified as nina pham. you see her here. an aid organization said she's now received a transfusion from ebola survivor kent brantly. >> she contracted the disease treating eric duncan before he died. now the details on the investigation to determine what went wrong. >> texas state and federal officials are scrambling to determine how the transmission happened and whether it could have been avoided. the dallas nurse, nina pham is being treated and is in clinically stable condition. she took all the precautions, a mask, gown, face shield and gloves. officials are looking at some of the last procedures in the final days of duncan's life. an official tells cnn there were inconsistencies in the type of gear she wore and with the process to put the gear on and
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to remove it. officials have described the inconsistencies as a breach of protocol, but today are dialing back. >> we've got to be careful that that word breach doesn't imply that the nurses did something wrong. they are amazingly courageous to do what they're doing. so a breach in protocol may be that the protocol's find they were not trained properly. >> they're reexamine the protocol and say they aim to make care of ebola patients easier and safer. >> we have to rethink how we think ebola infection control. >> two weeks ago, there was an assurance everything was under control. >> we're stopping it in its tracks in this country. >> reporter: health care workers across the u.s. say nurses handling ebola patients need better education. >> we have been asking our hospitals throughout the country to provide us with training. >> reporter: more than 4,000 people have died from this ebola outbreak, and the world health organization says at least one in every 20 has been a health
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care worker. victor blackwell, cnn, dallas. meantime, president obama is pressing officials to make sure health care workers are ready to follow ebola protocols. he held a briefing monday with senior advisers on the case in texas. he wants a quick investigation into how the nurse got sick so lessons can be learned. mr. obama also discussed it with the french president and u.n. secretary-general. >> meantime, in spain, another health care worker is battling ebola. she became ill after helping to treat a spanish missionary who later died. joining us live in madrid is nick robertson. he's been following this story. now, nick, the husband of teresa ramos is calling for madrid's regional health chief to resign. what's the response been to that? >> well, the response so far
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from the health officials is very simple and short "no comment." the language used in her husband's letter is very strong. he's very critical of the health officials here, saying that his wife barely had half an hour's training, and this wasn't enough for her. and he also feels that she's been unfairly criticized as well. we've been learning a lot more about her condition from a family friend. >> under quarantine, worrying about his wife, he leans from a window at the carlos 3 rm hospital in madrid. on the floor above him, his wife his ebola. javier can't visit her, but their friend is able to visit him, get updates on teresa. >> translator: she is very tired. she is talking to her colleagues.
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she is very afraid of the night. the night is when she gets worse. >> reporter: a family friend has become the family's only independent link to the outside world. >> translator: she wants to fight. she has a pulmonary edema. that is worrying. we have 48 hours to see. >> reporter: she shows journalists a letter to spanish officials. he blames the government for not giving his wife, the nurse's assistant, enough training with her protective clothing, while treating spanish missionaries infected with ebola. he tells us more. he didn't want her to take the risk. >> translator: in fact, teresa and javier argued. he did not want her to volunteer, but she said it was her life and nobody wanted to look after them. so she volunteered with the limited equipment the hospital
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said. >> javier barely eats, his days spent in tears and anguish over the plight of his wife, so near, yet so far. >> and there's no update this morning from the hospital on the situation on teresa ramirez condition. what we do know, they expect her condition to go up and down in the coming 24, 48 hours are very critical. we've heard that from health officials. they say she's table, but in critical condition. she's conscious and able to talk, echoing what the family friend tells us. and the family friend said the husband is absolutely distraught about this situation. he said if the government took better precautions that he believes are taken in other countries when treating ebola patients, that is, that people who have been involved in the
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health care are put under observation afterwards, that his wife perhaps wouldn't be in such a dire situation at the moment. >> yeah, we certainly wish teresa ramos a speedy recovery. let's hope she does well. nick robertson, live from madrid, thanks so much. now, if you were watching cnn last hour, you watched live as we showed you north korean state media releasing more images of leader kim jong-un. he's said to be making a public appearance. of course we have no way to know for sure. he's been out of view since september 3rd, the longest absence that wea've seen from hm in some time, fueling speculation over his whereabouts. paula hancocks joins us live with what these latest images do and don't reveal. it's more images we've seen, but no video. what do we make of all this? >> reporter: well, errol, that's quite normal for north korean media. we'll find the news article in
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the morning early on, then photos in the newspaper, or the 3:00 p.m. local newscast. then in about four hours' time, there will be an evening newscast. that's when we may see footage. of course if we don't, then the question will be, does this mean he's not in quite such a good state as the photos would suggest? but that's speculation. these photos do show that kim jong-un is back in north korean media and puts pay to some of those rumors we've been hearing recently. >> reporter: back with a smile and a walking stick. north korean leader kim jong-un is on the front page of the country's newspaper tuesday, doing what he does best, giving field guidance. no date given for the visit or the photos, but this should quell some rumors about where he's been for the past five weeks. >> kim jong-un had a profound limp before disappearing. state media admitted he was feeling discomfort. but it may be more than that
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according to a doctor who is familiar with the medical history of his father, kim jong-un. she said both suffered diabetes, heart problems, and stress. >> translator: there are a lot of psychological problems that he inherited. and there's a history of obesity. >> reporter: but what's more serious is that kim jong-un was artificially made to look more that way to look more like kim il sun. they think hormone shots to make him look more like the founder who many people have favorable memories of. and his reappearance may be temporary, forced by the intense, worldwide scrutiny on his disappearance. >> analysts i've spoken to say they're not surprised that he has turned up again. it was widely assumed he did have health issues.
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errol? >> all right, paula hancocks live for us in seoul, south korea. the mystery continues just after 4:00 p.m. there. zane? >> the world continues to speculate about what is happening with kim jong-un. a major road in hong kong that has been blocked is now open to traffic, after police dismantled the demonstrators's barricades. all the action happened on the edge of the main protest site. police did not try to clear out the activists, but this is the second straight day authorities have encroached on their encampments. police with shields in hand were there to keep the protesters from getting in the way of the teardown. >> now for the latest information out of ferguson, missouri. more than 49 people were arrested at protests condemning the killing of michael brown there on monday. at least the arrests took place on monday. hundreds gathered for the march.
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some demonstrators were trying to cross a police line. among those detained, cornell west, he joined the many voices demanding the arrest of the white police officer who shot brown. the unarmed black teen was killed more than two months ago. oscar pistorius has arrived at court for the second day of his sentencing hearing. on monday, the defense called witnesses to try to convince the judge of the olympian's fragile emotional state. pistorius was found guilty of culpable homicide for killing his girlfriend. the length of the sentence is completely up to the judge. we'll have live coverage when court resumes in pretoria in south africa at the bottom of the hour. >> that's coming up, but first for you, a powerful magnitude 7.3 earthquake, strikes central america. coming up after the break, we'll have the latest damage reports from the scene. plus, a stunning shift from the catholic church. we'll be looking at the
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vatican's new report about gays, that's coming up.
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a powerful earthquake has struck off the coast of el salvador. >> just before midnight there, it scared a lot of people. the magnitude 7.3 quake could be felt across the country. it happened just before midnight u.s. eastern time, in fact, but it prompted officials to issue a tsunami warning which was called off. one woman was killed when a
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utility pole fell on her. the quake caused structural damage and temporarily knocked out electricity. another weather issue, hurricane gonzalo has strengthened and may threaten bermuda in the coming days. this hurricane is pretty strong, it's tearing down roofs on people's houses, knocking down trees as well. >> yeah, this is a dangerous storm. it's now a category 2 storm, really concerning for bermuda in the next few days. we could be dealing with a major hurricane just lurking south of bermuda here. we'll have to watch this one closely. this is the advisory at 2:00 a.m., 165 kilometer per hour winds. hurricane hunter aircraft have been in here and investigating the system and the winds have been found of 100 miles an hour. so now we have a cat 2 situation here. british virgin islands under a hurricane warning.
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anguilla as well. what you're seeing here is a tropical storm warning for the entire coast of puerto rico, entire island in fact. and then a hurricane watch. not too concerned about puerto rico because this is headed to the north and west. so the worst for the bbis and then through the northern part of puerto rico. along the coast, large waves and swells over the next few days. but you can see the storm headed off to the north and west, and intensifying all the while. conditions favorable for that to happen. we'll have to see whether this goes up in the advisory. but there it is, becoming a major hurricane between 48 and 72 hours. 195 kilometer hours and in 96 hours' time, perhaps just south of bermuda here and could have a direct strike on bermuda in the next few days. so a terrible situation for them. of course they just had to deal with fay, and caused some damage there as well. want to update you on tropical storm anna.
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file this one away for a little bit here, but in the next few days, look at hawaii. this is the year for hawaiian hurricanes, it seems. but the forecast is for this to continue moving off to the west and then eventually moving further to the north. so that in about five days we could be dealing with a hurricane east of the hawaiian islands. but look at this cone of uncertainty. could go well south of the islands or north, and that would be a miss and that would be a good thing. but keep in mind, that is a threat over the next few days that we'll have to watch. then of course there's a line of storms that rolled through the u.s., show you some of the damage that was left in arkansas, as a result of a tornado that touched down across southwestern arkansas here in ashdown, an ef-2 in fact. national weather crews out there indicating 120 miles per hour winds responsible for the damage. one fatality there as well. and another fatality in alabama as a result of a tree coming down on a mobile home.
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current threat at this hour, still some tornado watches in effect. and a big line of thunderstorms rolling through. look at atlanta here, my goodness, the commute will be a disaster for folks this morning as some very heavy rain, nothing severe right now, but just some embedded thunderstorms here and torrential downpours with flash flooding likely over the next several hours. that threat will continue eastward, including the carolinas, into parts of florida as well, and headed up north to virginia and into west virginia. so we'll watch that for you, keep you posted and we'll have an update on what else is going on in the world, which has been a lot so far tonight. see you in the next half hour. >> devastating damage in arkansas, ivan. we'll continue to monitor. >> thanks for the update. ♪ we move on now to the battle against isis. its fighters are advancing on
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two major fronts in syria and in iraq despite ongoing coalition air strikes. >> the air strikes just make these gains all that more stunning, really. the progress in iraq's anbar providence that the militants are making, some of them are within a dozen kilometers of baghdad. jim sciutto has the latest. >> reporter: this is american fire power. and this is the isis response. and the terrorist group is still advancing. in syria, isis is closing in on capturing kobani, say the kurdish fighters defending the city and in iran isis fighters control 80% of anbar province, just west of baghdad. today isis overrunning one of the last iraqi military bases still standing, the u.s.-trained and u.s.-armed iraqi soldiers posted there, overwhelmed by
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isis fighters and running. tribal leaders in anbar are now pleading for u.s. ground troops to join the fight. asked if he might send u.s. forces to the rescue, general martin dempsey once again, left the door open in an interview with abc. >> there will be circumstances when the answer to that question will likely be yes. but i haven't encountered one right now. >> reporter: isis gains give the base a dangererous range for attacks on the capital. within eight miles of the baghdad airport. u.s. commanders express confidence with the iraqi security forces defending the city. >> i believe the capability is there to defend baghdad. so i think we're somewhat confide confident. >> reporter: not confident enough to leave it to iraqi forces. u.s. military deployed apache
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helicopters to defend baghdad airport, placing u.s. pilots much closer to the combat on the ground. meantime, turkey says it's made no decision on opening one of its air bases so the u.s.-led coalition for operations in iraq and syria. top u.s. officials said a day earlier turkey had granted permission. meanwhile, the tushish president erdogan said they should be targeting the regime in syria. raising hopes for some and angering others. we'll show you changes that may lie ahead for the catholic church. that's coming up after the break.
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welcome back. this will surely be something discussed by catholics around the world. a paper released by the vatican hints that some big policy changes may soon take place within the catholic church. this intrim report addresses issues like same-sex marriage and it suggests that people shouldn't be excluded from the church. >> if comes after weeks of meetings between bishops and pope francis. i'm joined now by delia gallagher. >> what this paper says is a departure from what the catholic church traditionally teaches.
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what has been the reaction been? >> reporter: reaction is mixed at the moment. there are those who are widely in favor and are applauding this new openness of language. there are also those within the catholic church and bishops among them who are saying, wait a minute. up until yesterday we were calling these situations and relationships, gay, or divorced, or people living together, we were calling them irregular, disordered. now today we're being told to value them and appreciate them and find the good in them. so there's clearly still some language to be worked out about what exactly does this mean, in a concrete sort of way. because yes, we have more welcoming language, but does it mean, as errol said before, that there will indeed be an actual change in the teaching, or a change in the doctrine. so still things to be discussed this week as the meetings continue. >> interesting because this is sort of really becoming pope
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francis' trademark, you know, much more open, very understanding. what does this paper tell us about his vision for the catholic church, delia? >> reporter: well, this is it. look no further. this is exactly what he set out to do when he was elected. he said he wanted to reach out to those people on the fringes, to those people who felt excluded. and here are some of those groups, gay people, divorced people, those who are living together, et cetera. this is part in parcel of hope francis's agenda. let's also say, to be fair, that even before pope francis, under john paul ii or under pope benedict, there was still a teaching anyway of being open to people who felt excluded. but i think the main difference was in the public perception of this pope francis, who really leads with that idea, who says that's the priority for me, and then we'll talk about the rules
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and regulations later. >> pope francis certainly a game-changer. this document definitely a jumping-off point for discussion. i'm sure there will be a heated debate to follow. delia gallagher live for us in rome, we appreciate it, thank you. oscar pistorius has arrived at court in south africa. coming up for you, day two of the olympian's sentencing hearing gets under way. we'll have a live report from pretoria next. q.
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you are watching cnn, we both appreciate that fact. i'm errol barnett. >> and i'm zane asher. a short while ago north korean state media released more photos of kim jong-un, who had not been seen in public for more than a month. the first batch came out much earlier in the day. we can't confirm the authenticity of any of these images, but in the photos he's using a cane, which would suggest he has health problems as people have been thinking. hong kong police have hauled away barricades near the main protest site in the cities and the road is now open to traffic. police are not removing the
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demonstrators camped out just yet. and sergey lavrov is delivering a statement on sanctions in europe. this comes two days after vladimir putin ordered 17,000 russian troops back from the ukrainian border. ahead of friday's meeting in milan between their putin and ukrainian president poroshenko. he's scheduled to meet with john kerry later today in paris. now to south africa where the second day of the oscar pistorius sentencing hearing should begin at any moment. we'll get you live to that hearing soon as it gets under way. on monday a witness suggested pistorius should face three years of correctional supervision, equivalent to house arrest. the prosecution called the recommendation, quote, shockingly inappropriate. let's bring in diana magnay now
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from outside the courthouse in pretoria. we can discuss what to expect today. not just everyone watching now, but everyone in south africa certainly awaiting the outcome of this. what did we learn yesterday and what happens today? >> reporter: we learned yesterday that from the psychologist who's been treating pistorius since the incident happened, really, that he was a broken man, had her words. suffering from acute depression, from post-traumatic stress disorder and also she delivered a real indictment, i suppose, of the media and the way that they had portrayed him in a malevolent fashion, as a character assassination, and how that had really destroyed him. personally led to a loss of identity. we also heard, as you said, from the correctional officer who recommended a correctional sentence of three years, effectively house arrest. errol, i want to bring in our legal analyst on that point.
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to many people that seems abs d absurdly lenient, the prosecutor describes it as shockingly lenient. and the correction officer said it's not as lenient as it seems. can you tell us why? >> people's response in that regard relates to two aspects. the number of years and the type of sentence. the number of years of three years would be considered lenient. but with regard to correctional supervision, it is possible to have a very heavy penal content imposed with correctional supervision. so most lay people assume that's essentially getting off the hook, but in fact, it can be very severe. >> so i just heard that the court has begun its sentence. we'll take you there now. >> as a manager of athletes, sportmen, what do you do? >> can you please just repeat the question, sir. >> as a manager of sportsmen,
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athletes, what do you do? >> my lady, first and foremost, we take care of the athletes's security in terms of securing competitions for them to compete. secondly, we look at endorsements to maximize their earnings for the duration of their career. thirdly, we take care of the financial, can we say, management of the athlete by making use of the experts in terms of taxation, investments, seeing that the athlete's income potential is over a short period of time, if you compare it with any other career, so you have to make sure they make investments for the future to take care of their life after the sport. >> and you have other athletes that you manage? >> i indeed have other athletes that i manage. >> even when you managed mr. pistorius, you had other athletes that you managed?
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>> that's correct, indeed. >> per sportsmen to be involved in charities, that's not peculiar to mr. pistorius? >> no, it's not only for mr. pistorius. >> in fact, most sportsmen contribute to charities these days. >> that is indeed correct. >> in fact, the biggest contribution to charities in america is the pga. >> i don't have that correct figures, but that might well be the case seeing as the amount of money that's involved in professional golf. >> now, what if also in the time available, managed to look at, and i'm going to make a statement, i want you to just tell me the statement is right or wrong. charities have become the most successful mark for business and sportsmen alike. >> i think based on also
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legislation, that these corporate social responsibility programs that are put in place, a lot of companies and brands have specifically gone that route also. >> and the sportsmen, they market themselves by being involved with charities. >> that is indeed correct. i think sport allows professional sportsmen the platform globally to leverage whatever charity and fund raising that they can do and they do indeed raise various funds for charities globally. >> now, if one looks at the charities and let's just look, unicef. unicef as a conglomerate of sportsmen and celebrities that become involved with charity events, not only mr. pistorius. >> it is indeed an honor when
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unicef approaches sportsmen. >> so if they're approaching, you cannot say no, it would not be clever to say no? >> um, indeed not clever. >> and mr. pistorius was approached by unicef and he became involved, like any other sportsman would do. >> that is correct. >> the same with the laura sports awards and organization. >> that is indeed correct. >> if you're approached and you're a sportsman, it will not be cleared that you'll be involved. >> it goes far more than being clever. it allows the sportsman an opportunity to really contribute. >> i know what you want to say, but if you just follow on the quiz we'll get by quicker. now, again, laura sports approached mr. pistorius to
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become involved. he became involved, am i right? >> that's correct, my lady. >> we know that oakley is one of mr. pistorius' big sponsors? >> that is correct, indeed. >> being a sponsor, you are obligated to do things for your sponsors, am i right? >> that is also indeed correct. >> by getting involved in charitable events by the sponsors? >> that is correct. >> so again, if mr. pistorius goes out and he helps people with the eyesight because all oakley wanted him to do, it's because he's obliged to do so, correct? >>ible so. >> same with nike. >> that is correct. >> and he's obliged to get involved in the charitable events they want him to get involved in. >> that is correct. >> so if he gets involved and gives a little girl shoes and things he got from nike, it's because nike wants him to do
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that. >> it is not in this specific case nike wanted him to do it. we received the opportunity where this little girl wanted equipment to compete and being a sponsored athlete from nike, was just lucky for me to approach nike to see if they would make available on mr. pistorius's budget that mr. pistorius can donate to this specific kid. >> so what happened, mr. pistorius said nike, you give to the little girl. and mr. pistorius contributes nothing, am i right? >> if one can interpret it if it's the case like that, that mr. pistorius contributes nothing. >> good. now, you see, i've gone through -- only had a couple hours to do this, but i've gone through this document of yours.
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now, this deals mainly with -- and it repeats itself -- with what he had to do with mr. sebastian cope, am i right? that was for which -- >> the international inspiration. it was the official charity for the london olympic games. >> yes. >> wh what he had to do for mr. bobby charlton -- >> that is the charity, i can't recall the specific name, but that's involved with land mine victims and also the eradicating of land mines in different countries. >> and again all those things we're dealing with well known sport icons like sebastian coe, bobby charlton and they invited mr. pistorius to become involved, that is correct?
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if you invite any of your other athletes to be involved it would not be clever for them not to become involved. >> that is correct. >> so the fact is that it's merely an advancement of your career to become involved? >> um, if one want to look at it that way, one can perceive it as that. i think a lot of sportsmen actually really want to make a difference and contribute. >> but as a bonus, as a flip side. >> it really enhances their careers and their marketability. >> again, one can look at it as that. >> good. that a business opportunity? >> no. in glasgow, they were already developing a foot and with mr. pistorius' foundation, we saw the synergy by working closely
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with them in developing this foot, whereby this can be supplied to victims all over the world. >> before i carry on, i'm going to go through your bundle. do you perceive mr. pistorius as a victim in this case? >> if you can allude to -- >> i'm asking you, he's the victim, he's suffering, people are doing this to him? >> i'm sorry, i don't follow you at the moment. >> the fact that he does not have the opportunities that he had, who do you blame for that? >> if, if you refer to specifically the opportunities currently that mr. pistorius don't have, i don't see mr. pistorius as a victim at all. >> okay, let me say, the fact
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that he's not being invited to address people at huge gatherings, who do you blame for that? >> mr. pistorius can only be blamed therefore himself. >> see, what's that i thought, but that's not what i read. he can only be blamed for himself because he killed someone. am i right? why should he be blamed? because he killed someone and was convicted. am i right? >> that is correct in terms of the court's ruling and judgment. >> now, if you would just open what you have there in front of you at page 108. >> page 108. >> yes.
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excuse me, sir. >> sorry, i just wanted to ensure that the court is ready. you're there. do you see the e-mail on the 22nd of september to mr. webber. am i right? >> that is correct. >> and you said, this is a photograph of oscar addressing an audience on disability awareness. >> indeed. >> and what did you then say? >> these platforms are now all taken away by the state and media. >> so the state and the media have taken away the platform. how did you work that out? >> i was specifically referring to a lot of false reporting by
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the media of the specific incident. >> why would false reporting on an incident where, if you shot and killed somebody, be to blame, and not what he did? >> in terms of my view, i think, if -- if -- if media reports it dire correctly, there would have been still some opportunities for mr. pistorius available. >> let's just go back. remember where we started. i said, who is to blame? you said mr. pistorius is to blame because he shot and killed the deceased. now you blame the media. how do you bring the two together? >> as i said, my lady, i think if it was handled with a bit more respect in the media, it could have been different for mr. pistorius. >> so you say if the media said that he fired four shots through a door, without knowing there's
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somebody in the door, and that he didn't subjectively perceive the possibility that he could kill somebody, but objectively, the reasonable man would have, the people would still have invited him to address big platforms after he's killed somebody. >> my lady, i can confirm that there are still people out there that have actually wanted mr. pistorius to tell his story of motivation and inspiration to the world. and that the legacy that he's left behind are still relevant today. >> so people would want to listen to mr. pistorius still? after he's killed somebody? is that what you're saying? and you blame the media? >> yes, i have in fact received
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invitations for mr. pistorius to address audiences in terms of sharing his life story and his achievements in the hope of inspiration to people. >> why do you blame the state? >> that is an error in judgment on my part, and for that, i can only apologize. >> no, see, it's not that easy. you wrote it, am i right? >> i wrote it, that is indeed correct. >> you blamed the state and the media for the fact that mr. pistorius cannot address audiences on disability. why do you blame the state for doing their job? >> again, as i said, that was an error of judgment on my part. >> isn't it merely because you don't want to admit that you view mr. pistorius as a poor victim of this case? >> no, i don't view mr. pistorius as a poor victim.
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>> that's the only inference i can make. these platforms are all taken away by the state and the media. i don't understand that. why? >> as i've said, as far as the state's concerned, that's poor judgment on my part. in terms of the media, i've already elaborated, how i perceive it. >> okay, let us -- you see, semantics is a strange thing. poor judgment. is it poor judgment that you included it? or poor judgment that you used it? you could not have put it in there, but that's what you think. >> no, that's poor judgment to include the state and i don't think that. >> you don't think that? >> nope. >> i'm going to move on, but i find it very strange that you would put something in that you don't even think. that doesn't make sense to me.
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do you want to respond or not? >> i've already responded. >> did somebody ask you to say that? >> no one told me to say that. >> okay, then i'm flabbergasted. first thing, you don't think it, nobody asked you to put it in, but it found its way in. how is that possible? >> as i said, it was error of poor judgment on my side. >> okay. i have to say that the answer of poor judgment in this instance really doesn't make sense. it does not make sense and i'm going to give you one last opportunity and them i'm moving on. is that your answer and that's the answer you want the court to accept? >> that is my answer. >> good. let us just go through bundle of yours, and i cannot deal with everything. if one goes through this in
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detail, it's quite a lot of docket. >> ddd. >> it's dddd, four d's. >> thank you. >> now, can i ask you, yesterday you indicated what you thought the rationale was behind the doctorate that was bestowed on mr. pistorius. what was that, as far as you're concerned? >> the doctorate that was bestowed on mr. pistorius was for the work he's done in conjunction with the university for developing a specific prosthetic that would have been used by mr. pistorius's foundation to supply to victims of land mines and people have that lost limbs, that cannot afford, does not have the
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financial means for medical ability to have prosthesis. >> that's what i read yesterday. ky just refer to the page numbers? >> no, no, no. i just want to make sure we still -- i heard you mention something. i'm not going to repeat what you said. >> page 7 of the bundle you have in front of you. >> yes. >> have you actually read that? >> this is the document that the principal of the university read during the graduate ceremony that was held when mr. pistorius received his honorary doctorate. >> in the end you said it's a great pleasure to bestow on oscar pistorius, the degree of
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doctorate -- have you read this? >> i have read this document. >> so that is the reason, in this document, why they bestowed the doctorate on him? >> as far as i'm concerned, the work that we've done and when we were approached by the university was for the work that mr. pistorius has done and were going to do with them in rolling out his foundation with this foot that was going to be supplied and given to people and giving people the gift of mobility. >> i hear your concern. i'm dealing with something different, mr. van zil. you said page 7 and 8 was read out when the doctorate was bestowed. it explains why the organization gave him a doctorate. have you read it? >> yes, i've read this document in 2012, when mr. pistorius was
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bestowed with this honorary doctorate. >> in preparation for your evidence, you did not read it again? >> no, i did not read it again. >> you had this document in your possession and you forwarded it to the defense? >> that's correct. >> now, i've read it last night. there's nothing about the work done. let me rather rephrase. mr. pistorius has been bestowed the doctorate for what is achieved from a young age, through sport. and that's why this was bestowed on him? >> that was part of it. as far as i'm concerned with the work that we've done on the number of occasions that we visited university and we spent time at university's lab working with professor bernie, where him and mr. pistorius were working on design, on material
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composites, on rolling out and production capacities and all that, to my understanding that was also a huge part of why mr. pistorius received this. >> that's what you want to say. but we have the document. you handed in the document. in this document, the speech read out by the person bestowing this paints a different picture. you want the court to think that he was bestowed a doctorate because of his charitable work. it's not so. would you like us to go through page 7? let's do that. it starts with a quote about the essence of winning.
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[ indiscernible ] he's not only a world-class athlete, but the celebrity sfortsman, he's become a role model for disabled people. winning has been powered by commitment and determination. at 11 months old, oscar's life changed. gave him a different path way to most which were. [ indiscernible ] are you following? >> i'm following. >> we all know oscar as the blade runner, he took on the national association of athletics who had banned him from the all able-bodied sport in 2007. he took them on. it was a famous victory he won through persistence. it opened the door to london. competing at london was an historic event. for me the most memorable events of the london olympics was oscar pistorius exchanging name tags. in an interview, james said
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something. james went on, that's the athlete. let's turn the page. crossing over into elite able-bodied events, he helped people to see a person differently. his place in history is that he opened the door for disabled athletes. his place in history is that he opened the door for disabled athletes to compete in the olympics and other events. oscar is a true ambassador for his sport. and so you can go on. there's nothing about anything else. this was bestowed on him. >> so we can go on, in all fairness, must read the last four paragraphs as well. so it can go on -- >> i'll do that. >> celebrity is not what is important here. it's
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