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counted just under 9,000 confirmed infections and more than 4,400 deaths. in america, the focus turns to a 26-year-old nurse who helped to treat the liberian ebola patient who passed away in dallas last week. nina pham is the first person to contract ebola inside the united states and she's already been getting help from an american who caught ebola in africa and lived. we have more on that from cnn's senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. >> reporter: doctors in dallas anxious to see if a blood transfusion may save the life of a critical care nurse, nina pham, the first person to contract ebola within the u.s. she cared for the now deceased liberian thomas duncan. pham received the donation from ebola survivor dr. kent brantly on monday, the hope that his blood may provide key antibodies to fight the disease. >> everybody should ask god to help us to get over this. and i know in the long run, she
will help a lot of people. >> reporter: the 26-year-old is one of around 70 hospital staffers who cared for duncan, according to the "associated press." the a.p. reports they reached that number after being given duncan's medical records by his family. the cdc says they're still working to compile a list of health care workers who came into contact with duncan. >> if this one individual was infected and we don't know how within the isolation unit, then it is possible that other individuals could have been infected as well. >> reporter: an individual with direct knowledge of the investigation tells cnn that cdc detectives who interviewed the nurse several times believe there are, quote, inconsistencies in the type of gear the nurse used and how she put it on and took it off. but fellow nurses say pham was always careful. >> knowing nina, she's one of the most meticulous, thorough nurses. i learned so much from her. >> reporter: state and federal health officials aren't sure how
pham was infected but say it may be time to re-examine ebola safety protocols. >> we have to rethink the way we address ebola infection control. >> reporter: officials even considering moving patients to special containment hospitals. this as ebola fear escalates amid international flights into the u.s. shortly after landing in boston monday, a hazmat team boarded an emirates airline flight from dubai and removed five passengers presenting flu-like symptoms. after examination, officials determined none of the five met the criteria for ebola and none of them came from west africa. >> elizabeth cohen joins me live now from dallas. elizabeth, if you could update us as to nina's condition today, how is she doing? >> reporter: the hospital hasn't updated her condition today. but yesterday they said that she was stable and we know that she received a blood transfusion as we mentioned from dr. kent brantly. she received it early on, unlike
duncan, she got an experimental treatment early on. of course, everybody is hoping that that works and that she does well. >> there's also that picture we're seeing beside you on the screen, it's nina pham but then there's a picture of her with her dog bentley. and now there's a lot of talk that bentley is in quarantine. this made a big story in spain when they had to euthanize the nurse's dog in spain. do you know what the story is with bentley? >> reporter: many people said in spain, why not just quarantine the dog? that's what's being done here. we don't know. we've been told the dog is feeling fine. that he's a little bit confused which would make sense, but that he's feeling fine. he's being watched to see if he becomes ill. there's a lot we don't know about dogs and ebola. one of the things is, if the dog does get infected, would the dog transmit it to people? we don't know the answer to that for sure. >> i think that was the concern in spain, why the officials there took the drastic action that they did. i hope that doesn't happen -- that's insult to injury for this
poor nurse. elizabeth, thank you for that. if this highly trained extra careful nurse could still catch ebola from a patient despite all the protective gear, all the protocols in place, how about those people who live and work in nina pham's neighborhood? they might be excused for being concerned about themselves and being concerned about the woman they say always has a smile. cnn's gary tuchman met some of them. >> reporter: the first person we know to have contracted ebola in the united states lives in this apartment building in this middle class neighborhood north of downtown dallas. people who live on this street are saddened and shocked by what happened to 26-year-old nina pham. betsy lives across the street from her. >> we usually see her once a day. we haven't seen her since wednesday or thursday. >> reporter: betsy usually sees nina when they are walking their dogs. >> she's neighborly, friendly, positive. always has a smile. not everyone smiles when they're walking their dogs and not everyone says hello.
she always picks up after her dog, which is good. she's just always -- i would tell my husband, she seems like somebody that's comfortable in her skin, respectable and belongs in the neighborhood. she mentioned once that she was a nurse. and we said, oh, that's interesting and applauded her for doing that because health care workers have a rough job. they're on the front lines. >> reporter: the prevailing feeling among residents on this block we've talked to is concern about their neighbor. but there is also substantial unease about not knowing details of how she came down with ebola. city and county officials have gone door to door in the neighborhood to answer questions about how ebola spreads. but it is nevertheless disconcerting to many neighbors. >> pretty alarming, pretty concerned now. hopefully this will stay contained. >> reporter: on the corner of the block is the dallas beast fitness gym. even though nina pham doesn't work out here, the owner says some of his clients are on edge. >> we sterilize every hour on the hour.
we have disinfectant rags that we wipe off the equipment with. >> reporter: jacob is an electrical contractor doing work next door to the victim's apartment. he's worried. >> i'm nervous about it. in fact, this morning i told my wife, i didn't want -- i really didn't want to come over here. but i asked her to pray for me and she did. so i'm believing the lord will protect. >> reporter: this maintenance supervisor is carrying a mask just in case he feels the need to use it. >> the nurse contracted the virus, then they usually take big precautions, especially with this ebola virus. it's scary. seems like it might be more contagious than the doctors are saying. >> reporter: some neighbors tell us other residents have temporarily left their homes while work is taking place at the victim's apartment. but not betsy and her husband, who hope to welcome their dog-walking friend home soon. >> anybody that is willing to go out on the front lines of medicine like she's doing and take care of an ebola patient
with direct contact, that's brave and that's courageous. that's a healing angel, to me. >> reporter: gary tuchman, cnn, dallas. >> when you see in some of those health care workers complete suited up, oftentimes they get through their work safe. they're protected. but it's when they try to get that gear off it becomes a really big problem and they are in danger. dr. sanjay gupta did the whole process from start to finish. suited up and then tried to suit down without getting the infection. and the display you're going to see is nothing short of remarkable. that's coming next.
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treating ebola have two very difficult tasks. number one, trying to save their patients' lives. and then also trying to save themselves. as they treat that deadly patient. the dallas nurse who contracted ebola from an infected patient said she was wearing protective gear and she followed all the protocol. cnn's chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta, says that can be just as difficult, the protocol itself. have a look. >> i want to give you an idea of what the cdc is recommending in terms of how to protect yourself with this personal protective gear. and i'll show you how to take it off, which some say is the most dangerous part. i work in an operating room every week. this is different than what most doctors are used to, at least in the operating room. i do want to point out, this is a little different than how i suited up when i was in guinea. but we're following cdc
protocol. i want to show you how i'm going to take this protective equipment off. i'm also going to put a little chocolate sauce in my hand which could represent a possible ebola contaminati contamination. here's the most likely contaminated area, my gloves and the front of my gown. now i have to treat this as if i'm potentially contaminated. i come out, what i'm going to do with this particular gown, rip it all off together and everything comes off simultaneously. but part of the glove rubbed against my hand, that could potentially be an exposure. i would reach underneath here and get underneath there. but if i didn't do it exactly right, there would be another potential exposure there. i'm reaching behind now as well as i can. but say the side of my face shield is contaminated and i touch here. that could potentially be an
exposure. same thing with the facemask. now take a look. right there, see a little bit of chocolate sauce, one possible exposure and over here on my neck, one possible exposure. >> dr. sanjay gupta, an excellent demonstration for us. it's important to remember even with what you just saw that only one person has caught ebola from that first patient who was diagnosed in the united states. the "associated press" has reported that thomas eric duncan possibly exposed more than 70 health care workers, at least 70 w health care workers or working on him. but 50 other people could have been exposed to him. and nobody else has caught the disease. 120 people, and we're not talking about that many people who have been infected. but in light of only one case of transmission, the cdc chief thomas frieden has announced the cdc will review its ebola control protocols. joining me to talk about the best way to
contain this lethal virus is cnn medical analyst dr.
alexander van tullkin. so many people came in contact with thomas eric duncan. i can't understand how a nurse like ms. pham could be infected with all of that gear and yet the family that was in the apartment with him while he was retching and ill and sweating and sick and sharing that small space with them for four-plus days, nobody's tested positive. how does this equate? >> the virus isn't very contagious. it's hard to catch. you see that from the people who have been exposed to him but haven't caught it. but if you are infected, then you're very likely to ch ka it. >> that's where i'm confused. ms. pham was suited up and those family members had no clue that he didn't just have the flu. understandably over the course of several days in a small apartment, they would have had to have come in contact
with a towel, a utensil, a glass, a
sheet. he was sharing the same bed with his partner. >> so the levels of virus that he would shedding in the hospital would have been much higher. and in the hospital, you're dealing with blood, needles, things like that. they still would have been exposed at home -- >> but they're not sick. >> this is what we've seen in ebola epidemics. most people don't catch ebola when they're exposed to people. but if you are that unlucky person -- the protocol is difficult to follow. when the protocol goes wrong, we don't have clear guidelines -- >> it's hard to follow to perfection. >> no protocol is about perfection. the protocol is about reducing risk. the protocol has to take into account that things can go wrong. >> the cdc is taking it on the chin for five particular things that the accusation is they just got this wrong. number one, telling ebola patients to, quote, call a dr. that might be the best thing. might want to call 911. number two, the director said any hospital can care for ebola patients, maybe, maybe not.
also not encouraging something called the buddy system for doctors and nurses to protect each other. that they didn't encourage doctors to develop ebola treatment guidelines and they put too much trust in protective gear. are those criticisms owl fair? >> elizabeth cohen's done a nice job of reporting on this. i think they are all fair. if you start with the first one, it's not just that you might want to call 911. you might want an ebola line where you can call up, it's not hard to establish a phone center with basic triage information to say, who have you been in contact with, have you been to west africa? that will quickly allay fears. >> and paramedics showing up without knowing anything -- >> exactly. we see that all the way through. >> fever is not always an indicator that you have an ebola. that seems to be the panacea for all the airports and yet you can still have it and not show a fever? >> this is a difficult virus to study. almost all the cases in the world that have occurred in
human ebola have been in africa. so we don't have that much information. most cases seem to start with fever. this is the only sensible way of screening. but keeping nurses safe is much more important than airport screening. >> doctor, good to have you. thank you so much. appreciate it. we've just learned the cdc is expected to give an update on ebola this afternoon. that's coming at 3:00 eastern time. cnn will cover that, bring you everything live as we get it as well. some people are criticizing it as a seismic shift from the vatican when it comes to gay people. a new document released by catholic bishops talks about the gifts that gay people can bring to the christian community and has positive words about gay couples. do these words mean anything? significant? officially? we'll dig into that next. i have occasional constipation. that's why i take doctor recommended colace capsules. [ male announcer ] for certain medical conditions where straining should be avoided, colace softens the stool for effective relief from occasional constipation.
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invests in our public schools. it's preliminary, unofficial and changes absolutely nothing and yet a report issued by the gathering of roman catholic bishops on the problems facing 21st century families is being called, quote, revolutionary, stunning, a pastoral earthquake. you can judge for yourself. the bishops wrote that gay people, quote, have gifts and qualities to offer the christian community. and good gay relations, yes, the bishops imply there are good gay relationships, quote, provide mutual aid to the point of sacrifice, end quote. and, quote, precious support in the life of the partners. i'm going to bring in an expert on this.
father edward is host of "the sunday mass." seismic and extraordinary and all of these celebrations going on about some movement in the catholic church when it comes to gay people and the quality within the church or recognition within the church, but i think a lot of people see this as, this is just pandering to suggest i have a quality, i have some kind of quality to offer to the community. these are people? shouldn't they just be people? >> sure. and i think if you see where the church has come from, to use language like, disordered -- >> yeah. that's not changing, though. >> that language is nowhere in here. nothing about sin was in any of this. it is total embrace of gift giftedness, inclusion, it's a radical shift. the church isn't saying, let's marry gay people. but it is saying the respect and dignity that every person is accorded is due them. and that's different from what the church has said before.
>> how does this not feel patronizing to someone who is a good catholic in every way and happens to love someone of the same same-sex but they're great practicing catholics, much better than some of the priests who have administered the faith. and they're supposed to be okay with this? >> well, i think to hear that your relationship can be loving and supportive when you hear your church saying that, when for so long your church has said sinful -- >> you don't exist. >> be excluded, that's a radical shift. >> baby steps -- >> it's bigger than a baby step. i think it's a pretty major step in tone, in perspective -- >> feels like baby steps in humanity, though. it feels like baby steps when it comes to just the humanity of recognizing in the "what would jesus do" factor. >> what did jesus do? he embraced people who were on the fringe. he didn't say, because you're on the fringe, that you're totally okay, come with us. it was the process of conversion. it doesn't happen all at once.
everybody's a sinner, right? depends on the sin. none of us are deserving. the point is, how can you get everybody in the same tent and say that the message really is for all people? >> it's hard to be tough on a priest. he's hard to interview and be tough on you. such a nice guy. thanks. >> thank you. we got this story that came across our radar, a high school hazing scandal prompting a school district to cancel the season for its championship football team. police arrest seven of the players involved. and the charges are sexual assault, aggravated, in fact. this decision came quickly after alleged victims came forward. but my next guests say this is not even close to being enough. ahead, cnn legal analyst mel robbins on what else they need to do. that's next. this is charlie. his long day of doing it himself starts with back pain... and a choice. take 4 advil in a day or just 2 aleve for all day relief. honey, you did it!
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the high school football fieldsay sayreville, new jersey, will be empty for the season. it happened last month. n.j. advance media spoke to the parent of one alleged victim who said, quote, it would start with a howling noise from a senior football player at sayreville war memorial high school, then
all of a sudden the lights were shut off. when it was dark, the parent said, quote, a freshman football player would be pinned to the locker room floor, his arms and feet held down by multiple upper classmen. then the victim would be lifted to his feet and sexually abused. to add to the shock, the reaction from some of the players' parents who showed up at a board of education meeting to protest, here it is -- >> no one was hurt, no one died. i don't understand why they're being punished. these kids are dedicated and i haven't seen more dedication out of my son. and i want him to play the rest of this season. >> innocent until proven guilty, they just want to play football. we care about the victims. we care about the perpetrators. we care about the players. we care about this family that they've created. >> well, the family that they've created is without question broken in some sense today. three of the players are charged
with aggravated sexual assault. for the legal view, i want to bring in cnn legal analyst mel robbins and cnn legal analyst paul callan. guys, we can't even describe what happened because it's just -- we can't, i'm sorry, on television, we can't say some of the allegations of what happened to these younger four alleged victims. but this some people say has happened forever and ever amen. how all of a sudden does it change today and how difficult is this a case to prove, paul? >> first of all, it's very -- seems very difficult to change this culture of hazing that goes on in football programs. if this were the first time we'd heard about this, it would be one thing. but there was a case in pennsylvania a few years ago involving a football camp where there was penetration with a broomstick and horrible, horrible things have gone on, criminal charges have gone on and yet we still see it in locker rooms constantly.
>> it's pretty easy to solve. you don't let 60 unsupervised high school boys alone in a locker room. >> why is the football coach not seeing that it doesn't happen? they're on notice that this goes on. so i'd like to see where the administrators were and why they didn't know about it. >> mel, to that point, is that standard operating procedure? there are no adult supervision protocols in locker rooms? >> i'm sure it changes across the country depending upon the team and the age of the kids. but you saw a cry from people saying, you don't let 60 teenagers alone in a locker room and you don't do it repeatedly. this isn't just one. this is four alleged incidents between september 19th and september 29th where this happened to four different victims allegedly. and while we can't describe it, at least three of the seven boys that were arrested were charged with aggravated sexual assault. >> let's be clear, that's not
snapping your towel at someone's bare bottom? >> no. >> it is as big as it gets when it comes to sexual offenses. >> there were at least several dozen other kids that were witnessing this. i'm not saying encouraging it. but what you've got is, you just pointed to what paul is talking about, too. this didn't just happen this season. >> if you want to know how many times it has happened, i was stunned by this. alfred university did a study in 2000 about harassment in sports programs. 800,000 players, they think, over the course of many, many years have been exposed to hazing. now not of this severity. >> i want to tell you, the superintendent has responded. there's been some pretty swift action obviously. this is a quote i want to give you from the superintendent. the board of education takes this matter extremely seriously
and thus will continue to make the safety and welfare of our students, particularly the victims of these horrendous alleged acts, our highest priority. mel, you're saying it's not good enough just to cancel this system. what else needs to happen? >> they need to fire the entire coaching staff, cancel the following season -- for those parents saying you're upset your son lost his scholarship over this thing, if he actually did this, he doesn't deserve a scholarship, he deserves jail time. if your kids watched it and knew about it, they're still involved because they didn't say anything. the only people that said something were the victims. this is horrible. >> yeah. mind you, i will say this, sometimes kids don't know it's wrong if that's the way they think it's always been and that's what they should be expecting -- >> ironically the kids who have been charged here may actually have been harassed themselves the year before. we'll see more as this case develops. >> we'll have to have this conversation because it could very well work its way into whether they are ultimately adjudicated or how a sentence
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nina pham is telling you herself how she's doing. she says, i'm doing well and i want to thank everyone for their kind wishes and prayers are. i'm blessed by the support of family and friends and i'm blessed to be cared for by the best team of doctors and nurses in the world here at texas health presbyterian hospital dallas. that was issued at the request of nina pham by the texas health presbyterian hospital staff. there you go. she says she's doing well and says her team is the best in the world. she's one of them and yet she contracted the ebola virus after treating thomas eric duncan who died with it last week. one big problem with trying to contain ebola is what to do with all of the contaminated waste, the blood-soaked sheets, the used needles, even the clothes that an ebola patient wore can pose the risk of spreading the disease. louisiana's attorney general doesn't want any ebola waste making its way inside of its state even if it's burned. >> reporter: it is this waste, the attorney general of
louisiana is worried about, the bags of sheets and clothes and stuff that ebola victim eric duncan may have touched or soiled while he was sick and living inside this dallas apartment. the bags of waste were hauled away, disinfected, then placed into 55-gallon drums. the drums taken to this port arthur, texas, facility for incineration, burned in ashes. the ashes is what louisiana's attorney general says he doesn't want in louisiana. there are too many unknowns at this point, says louisiana attorney general buddy caldwell and says it is absurd to transport potentially hazardous ebola waste across state lines. what's absurd, says infectious waste expert, is how uninformed louisiana's attorney general is on the danger of incinerating ebola waste and how that is adding to hysteria. >> incineration is going to kill the virus.
but if he's concerned, you do a simple test on the waste and you show there's no virus in there. we know that's a waste of money, a waste of resources because that virus is dead. it is not infectious, has zero risk to the environment, to people, to anyone being infectious. >> reporter: despite the lack of risk, the waste management company has sent out a statement saying it will not ship the ebola ashes to a louisiana landfill to avoid a legal fight with the state's attorney general. there is, though, a real problem in the u.s. dealing with ebola waste and it's happening where it would be generated. hospitals need to be equipped with a supersized pressure steam device called an autoclave. it's capable of killing any germ or virus. >> it's a specialized waste and it requires on-site incineration or placed in the autoclave. it's sterilized here on site
before we ship it off to the final disposition. >> reporter: anybody who does that would have to be trained? >> yes. with this particular type of waste, it would have special precautions as it went to an isolation area until it was placed in the autoclave. >> reporter: many hospitals don't have these devices to take care of the enormous amount of waste from just a single ebola patient, which is why privately, we are told, many hospitals hope to never see anyone carrying the ebola virus. drew griffin, cnn, atlanta. >> the cdc is going to be getting some help from facebook founder and ceo mark zuckerberg because zuckerberg announced today he's donating $25 million to the centers for disease control foundation for the fight against ebola. zuckerberg says he's hopeful that that donation is going to save lives and help control the outbreak. in other news, a young rising star on the republican party who took his former opponent to task for sexually harassing women is now himself
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we want to warn you that this next story has some graphic content that's certainly not suitable for children. our cnn investigative reporter sat down with the accuser and has this look at both sides. >> reporter: carl demaio is a rising republican star, backed by heavyweight congressional leaders like mitch mcconnell and john boehner, even endorsed by michael bloomberg, he's positioned as a gop candidate for a new generation. >> carl demaio, a new generation republican -- >> reporter: after losses in 2012, top republicans concluded in a review they must recruit more minority candidates. it's a problem demaio helped solve. just look at how a local newspaper describes him in its endorsement. "a gay man who will chip away at the party's image as intolerant and inflexible." national media's repeatedly declared demaio a candidate to watch. demaio first came onto the national scene when he lost to
democrat bob filner in the race for san diego mayor. but filner was forced to step down after 18 women claimed sexual harassment. demaio tried to make filner's behavior a campaign issue. >> zero tolerance when it comes to the issue of sexual harassment. >> reporter: but now, demaio's being tested by allegations about his own sexual misbehavior and accusations of harassment. it's an issue that escalated this week when he was asked about it at a campaign news conference. >> absolutely untrue. >> reporter: the allegations come from a former campaign staffer who sat down on camera with cnn. todd says he joined demaio's campaign last year, eager to work for a candidate who shared his values and who like himself is an openly gay republican. but he says he was fired after complaining about demaio's aggressive sexual behavior. >> he asked me to come over to his office which is in the back. and when i came over to his office, his door was open and he was masturbating. >> reporter: what did you see
when you walked in? >> i saw his hand -- his penis in his hand. he had a smile on his face. and as soon as i came over, he was looking at me. >> reporter: so there was no mistaking what was happening? >> there was no mistaking whatsoever. >> reporter: bosnich, who became the campaign's policy director, says demaio would repeatedly find him alone and make inappropriate advances, massaging and kissing his neck and groping him. he says it started one evening after drinks with the staff at a local bar. bosnich says demaio gave him a ride back to his car. >> we were making small talk on the way back. and when he pulled up to my car, he reached over into my lap and grabbed my crotch. and i flipped out and i pushed his hand away. >> reporter: how did it make you feel? >> i just was shocked because i'd never had anyone do something like that to me, especially in a position of authority and trust.
and at the time, i just figured, maybe he was drunk and blew it off. but he progressively and progressively, the inappropriate touching incidents continues from there. >> reporter: it was several more months, according to bosnich, before he mentioned the behavior to the campaign manager. >> the campaign manager who laughed it off, that's just the way carl is, and that if i really felt that uncomfortable, i shouldn't have let him know that i'm a gay man. >> reporter: so he was essentially saying to you, it was your fault? >> exactly. he was implying it's my fault, that it's incumbent on me to stop carl demaio from these behaviors. i was really offended. >> reporter: a few weeks after the alleged masturbation incident, bosniche says he confronted demaio. >> i told him, you need to stop or drop out of the race was basically my main point. the next day, the campaign manager called me into his office and said that carl lost his trust in me and that he had
terminated me. he offered me a position in the county republican party and also told me to sign a nondisclosure agreement in exchange for $50,000. >> reporter: was that hush money? >> you know, i'll let it speak for itself. >> reporter: how did you look at it? >> i took it as an attempt to bribe me to keep my silence. >> reporter: bosnich says he left the campaign without taking any money or signing any papers. he recorded an interview with a local conservative radio station outlining his allegations. that interview never aired. but cnn obtained a copy of that recording. after hearing it, we took bosnich's allegations directly to demaio, catching up with him after a campaign news conference. he says that you were inappropriate in the office, that you would touch him, kiss him, grab his butt -- >> all i can say is the police
department has -- >> reporter: let me finish the litany. he also says that you went out for drinks with the staff, you drove him home -- >> all not true. none of it's true. >> reporter: demaio denied bosnich's claims, saying that they are the cover story of a plagiarist and suspected criminal. >> this is an individual that was let go by our campaign manager for plagiarism, a well-documented plagiarism incident of taking a report from the "national journal" and passing it off as his own work. he was terminated. he admitted that he plagiarized. he apologized for plagiarizing. and when we told him he was no longer welcome in the staff and in the campaign office even as a volunteer, he left. days later, he broke in. >> reporter: demaio claims the san diego police department is investigating bosnich for breaking into demaio's campaign headquarters, smashing computers and cutting phone lines just days before the primary. >> it's unfortunate. he's clearly troubled.
he got caught for the damage that he did to the campaign. and now he's manufacturing in essence a cover story to explain away his actions. it's unfortunate. it's untrue. and my hope is that the police department will hold him accountable for his actions against our campaign. >> reporter: and you can provide us with the evidence -- >> absolutely, absolutely. >> reporter: that shows both the break-in -- >> absolutely, absolutely. >> reporter: and both the evidence that would refute his claims here that you were somehow inappropriate? >> absolutely. we would be happy to do that. come back to the office, we'll walk you through every single e-mail, text message. i think you will be satisfied. >> reporter: we went to demaio's campaign headquarters and were briefly shown some documents and other materials. they wouldn't let us copy them or describe them to you. and they did not appear on their own appear to refute bosnich's claims. police say they investigated the break-in and sent their findings to the district attorney for review. and bosnich confirms he was
interviewed by police. four months after the campaign office break-in, police still haven't charged anyone with a crime. and they refuse to discuss the case on camera or name any potential suspects. did you break into carl demaio's office? >> no, i did not. >> reporter: bosnich also denies that he was the one who plagiarized from the "national journal." after interviewing bosnich on camera, cnn repeatedly tried to get detailed answers from the demaio campaign. first the campaign spokesman demanded to talk to my bosses and then had a top gop consultant take over that call accusing cnn of going on a partisan witch hunt. when we followed up with a detailed list of questions, including whether the campaign manager knew about bosnich's complaints, the campaign hired two high-powered washington attorneys who asked for even more time and more information about what cnn had. cnn followed up with a second detailed letter laying out the information they requested. the next day, cnn finally got a response from the lawyers, contact the campaign with your questions. back to square one.
their statement was almost exactly what they said when we first asked about it. this is not the first time demaio has been accused of sexually inappropriate behavior. last year, a fellow city councilman said he caught demaio masturbating in a city hall restroom, twice. it's a claim demaio denied. even taking a polygraph test to support his denial. >> this lie crossed the line. it's so gross, it's so untrue, it's so humiliating that it demands a response. >> reporter: now todd bosnich has taken an independent lie detector test to support his allegations. >> it corroborated my account of being sexually harassed by carl demaio. >> reporter: bosnich's attorney gave us a report of the polygraph results. and the report says no deception indicated. de mayo is demaio is locked in a close race
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