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jake tapper. please be sure to join us thursday night. i'll be moderating the new hampshire senatorial debate between the democratic senator jean shaheen and former massa!ab)ee5uu!lican senator scott brown. that's it for me, thanks very much for watching. see you back here in the "situation room" 5:00 p.m. eastern. for our international viewers, amanpour is next, "newsroom" starts right now. mr. blitzer, thank you so much. great to be with all of you, i'm brooke baldwin. let's get to it. huge, huge news. breaking news here at cnn. finally free from the clutches of north korea's communists. the 56-year-old tourist detained since may has landed in guam aboard a u.s. government airplane. north korea, listen to this. they freed him in the dark of night without saying why as it still holds those other two
americans convicted there of crimes. he had been awaiting charges for leaving a bible in a nightclub. the timing here is curious. and we're going to talk about that. but first, here is confirmation of the release from the white house. >> to confirm jeffrey foul is on his way home to rejoin his family. we certainly welcome the decision from the dprk to release him. while this is a positive decision, we remain focused on the continued detention of kenneth bay and matthew miller and again calling to immediately release them. >> a whole lot of ground here to cover, including what this signal from the super secretive nuclear armed north korean government could possibly mean. let me bring in north korea expert gordon chang to walk me through some of this. to some, you know, here we are in the dark of night as we mentioned the release. seemed to have happened totally
out of the blue. but you say you expected it. why? >> well, the north koreans did not want any of these to die in their custody. and clearly jeffrey was the most sympathetic of the three. he was the one they wanted to release. i suppose he's the one that many people wanted back the most. so although the timing was completely unpredictable, i expected him to be the first to be released from custody. >> now, the last time you and i talked was when all of a sudden, boom, north korea allowed our cnn crews to interview all three americans, i believe it was labor day. we heard, interviewed by our correspondent. hooergs a reminder of that piece. do we have the sound? >> tell us about the charges you're facing? >> the charges are leaving a
bible on a road trip of the dprk. it was in violation of tourist purpose, as well. and also a request for forgiveness to the people and the government of the dprk. and the legal process is. they say that the trial will be forthcoming soon. and so, time is getting urgent. within a month, i should be facing trial and sentencing will be right after this. so -- >> so admitting the guilt, asking for forgiveness, gordon, but talking about the trial. do we know if he was tried? >> reporter: no, actually, we don't. but it really wasn't that
important because he did admit his guilt in that statement. and that really was the important thing. so if there was a trial, it was certainly a formality. probably no more than an hour. >> what about the other two americans? what about kenneth bay? what about matthew miller. how might this perhaps be a harbinger of things to come for them? >> after the rupture with relations with beijing, been reaching out to moscow, tokyo, seoul and now washington. and these two other guys are certainly bargaining chips and they will eventually release. but it could take some time for a number of reasons. and one of them is that the north koreans want exact some revenge on kenneth bay. and from their perspective, that really is a serious, serious offense. they want to make him pay as a lesson to others. so, yes, i expect him to be released because he's in poor
medical condition. but it's going to take some time. and it's going to be really dependent on international relations, how things go with washington. >> apparently an envoy was asked for, and according tof9u our reporting, doesn't appear one was sent.÷t gordon chang, thank you so much. let me turn quickly now to st. louis and go live to the governor of missouri, jay nixon speaking out specifically on actions, apparently, the state is about to take in the wake of what happened in ferguson in august. take a look. >> there you go. >> good afternoon. i'd like to thank the officials, educators, business and civic leaders joining with us today.
throughout the history of our nation, we have struggled to treat all our citizens as equals. the same has been said of our democratic institutions and the men and women entrusted with their stewardship. too often we have fallen short on the guiding principles of what our great democracy was founded. for too many, the promise of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness rings hallow. in the small missouri town where i grew up, the railroad tracks were the dividing line. whites on one side, blacks on the other. separate and unequal. it was the way things work. thankfully, we have come some
distance from those days, but the journey is not over in 2014. the protest set in motion by the events of august 9th in ferguson echo others within our lifetime. across the decades, those protests have been a cry from the heart heard and felt around the nation and around the world. a cry for justice. a cry for change in the schoolhouse and the courthouse. a cry for change in the social and economic conditions that impede prosperity, equality and safety for all of us. where there has been a clear vision of a better future and a well marked path for progress, protests have yield ed and despair, anguish and chaos follow. recently, one of the young
ferguson protesters said to an older protesterer this is not your parents' civil rights demonstration. he wasn't wrong the torch has been passed to continue the unfinished work of creating a more just and equal society. the passion and energy of the young have been and continue to be. and watches them head off to school. knowing that he might never come home again. she lives with that fear every day. i think about the wife of a cop, as she kisses her husband good-bye, hands them a cup of coffee and watches them drive off to work knowing he might never come home again. she lives with that fear every day.
that is the world we live in. too much violence, too little hope. too much fear, too little trust. but as the smoke clears and the shouting dies down, the question that lingers in the air is this. what now? what will we do in this moment while the whole world is watching? what will we do to move forward after 73 days of civil unrest. how do we move on from shouting past one another in the streets on the internet and on the evening news. some people would tell you that the choice is one thing or the other. trust or force. speech or silence. black or white. it is far more complicated than that.
legitimate issues have been r z raised by thoughtful voices on both sides, shouting past one another will not move us to where we need to go. outsiders eager to grab the national spotlight and push their own agendas do not have the best interests of this community, this state or our nation at heart. we need to solve these problems ourselves and we need to solve them together and we need to act now. that's why i'm announcing the creation of the ferguson commission. i'm asking for your help in identifying individuals in this region to serve in this important commission. i've planned to announce those selected early next month. my fervent hope is -- and my leaf belief is we will find thoughtful people from every walk of life, ordinary citizens as well as empowered leaders in business, education, public safety and our faith communities.
who are willing to serve their state when it needs them the most. my charge to the commission through an executive order will be threefold. first, to conduct a thorough, wide ranging and unflinching study of the social and economic conditions underscored by the unrest in the wake of the death of michael brown. second, to tap the expertise needed to address the concerns identified by the commission from poverty and education to governance and law enforcement. and third, to offer specific recommendations for making this region a stronger, fairer place for everyone to live. the men and women selected to serve on this commission must be willing to come together in good faith, endure the fierce crucible of public opinion and lead the hard work of change. >> there you have it, the
governor of missouri, jay nixon, apparently appointing what he's calling a ferguson commission. to help study, fix, heal, what happened in that community back in august, that unarmed black teenager michael brown shot and killed by that officer in ferguson. and just, you know, we were talking yesterday about the leaks that had come out in the "new york times" on behalf of the officer, speaking about some sort of struggle in that patrol car. might that lead to a possible nonindictment for the officer? i mean, we have continued to see protests. we'll watch to see how this unfolds in the coming weeks and months. you are about to hear from the suspect's stepson. and i'll talk to one woman who has interviewed more than 130 serial killers. plus, protests erupt over an opera on one of the world's
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working the story for us today. what do you know about these girls? and more importantly, what they were planning on doing? >> brooke, these girls are young. just 15, 16 years old. it's believed they apparently are somali descent or african descent. they reportedly went missing several days ago. family members became concerned and contacted local authorities, including the fbi. and we learned it was the fbi who over the weekend were able to track down these three young ladies in germany. they were detained in frankfurt, we're told. these girls had radical beliefs and had intentions of going to turkey and then syria where they wanted to link up with islamic extremists and join the fight on the ground there. we're told their plans weren't fully developed. and at this point, nobody facing any charges. no arrests have been made. but brooke, it speaks to a larger issue here. the fact that islamic extremists
are finding a way to put out a message that is resinating with younger, more vulnerable populations, including westerners, in particular, young women. this is reminiscent of another case that's ongoing here in colorado. that of 19-year-old shannon connolly who just pleaded guilty last month to trying to aid isis after she met somebody online. whether the fact that both of these cases have the colorado connection is a coincidence or if there's a bigger link here, we don't know, we're working to get more information, brooke. >> so as you're saying, they want them younger. they want westerners. and you mention where are they now? in detention in frankfurt? >> they were detained in germany. we learned they have since been thrown back to the u.s., presumably are now reunited with their family. but, again, because of their ages, they're just believed to be 15 or 16 years old. it is very difficult to get any further detail, especially because they aren't facing any charges at this point, brooke.
>> thank you so much. coming up next on cnn, investigators are hunting for more possible victims here in this potential serial killer case that could span decades. you're about to hear from the suspect's stepson and talked to a woman who has interviewed more than 130 serial killers. her take next. (woman) the constipation and belly pain feel tight like a vise. how can i ease this pain? (man) when i can't go, it's like rocks piling up. i wish i could find some relief. (announcer) ask your doctor about linzess-- a once-daily capsule for adults
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but what set all of this in motion was the discovery of 19-year-old africa hardy. she was found dead in hammond, indiana, over this past weekend. now, this man is who we need to talk about. the man charged in her death. allegedly strangled her before placing her body in this bathtub in this motel room. police say there were signs of a struggle. hardy had recently moved to indiana from colorado after graduating high school and living with her mother. >> she's indescribable. she was my rock. she was my best friend. she was my everything when i didn't have anything, she was all i had. >> in addition to that, we've heard from van's brother. he talked to the "chicago tribune." and this was what he told that paper. quote, to the victims, i'm sorry for their loss, i am a father of
two daughters myself, this comes as a shock to us and our household. this is a painful moment for us, too. helen morrison. dr. helen morrison, i have been wanting to talk to you. you have interviewed some 135 serial killers all around the world. you know all about patterns, you know what makes them tick. but before we get to that. with this guy in indiana, darren van, you say he made a huge mistake at that motel. what was that? >> he managed to send a text using her phone to her friends and they began the very suspicious that she had not made the text and they went to find her. >> and they found her in the hotel, the motel friday night, traced the texts, were able to find him, recognize his car in front of the house and, boom, here you have him behind bars and he's talking. we know he's 43 years of age. and if this goes back to the mid-90s, that takes him back to his 20s.
is that young? >> no, that's very typical for them to commit a crime starting in their 20s. some start in their late teens. and then they graduate&z to comt more and more crimes over the years until they're finally caught. he said, i made a mess. well, a mess is not exactly what i would describe as a homicide. but it's his way of dehumanizing her. >> he was describing what he did to this young woman as a mess? >> as a mess. i made a mess. >> it's one thing to murder. it is quite another to murder for -- if this is the case -- two decades. what separates someone from doing it once and over and over? >> i wish i knew. i mean, i have -- it's still a big mystery of why.
but it's a behavior that they've done and they continue to do, and it's the same behavior across years. and they finally make a big mistake and get caught. they don't want to be caught. >> they don't. i was going to ask if they make the mistake because they ultimately want to get caught. >> no, they don't. they just -- intend to continue to do this and it becomes such a habit that it becomes a very sloppy habit, so to speak. >> how about instead of the why, the how? we know several of these women were strangled. i was reading reports about a phone cord. you read into that? can you read anything there? >> no, not really. >> we try to make sense of them, and we haven't been able to. we studied them for over 30 years, and they are still as much a mystery as they were on day one of the first person we studied.
we think there's some biological thing, a genetic thing, and an environmental thing that none of the people in the family have a history of murder or any history of extreme violence. and they stand out as being an anomaly. >> as investigators are trying to piece this together, we at cnn are trying to talk to as many people as we possibly can. let me play this for you. this is my colleague ashleigh banfield, she talked to this man's ex-wife's son earlier today. take a listen. >> first of all, i don't like it. for her to marry a guy almost my age, number one, number two, i walk in, and i see him talking to himself. and act like she's never seen it. i'll tell you, the guy is a nut case. he is. >> okay. so he calls him a nut case.
but when you read about this ex-wife and also multiple previous victims, he didn't kill or even hurt many women. >> that's what happens. they start slowly and they gradually build up to murder. they may have been interrupted in austin when he was strangling the woman for which he was convicted. he didn't kill her. >> right. >> but it's a matter of just timing. >> and unfortunate timing for potentially -- >> unfortunate. >> multiple women. dr. helen morrison, i appreciate you coming on. >> thank you. just ahead, a 17-year-old the black flagcu of isis over t white house and buckingham palace. how does a young man from sydney, australia end up in iraq fighting for isis. and this opera playing one of the biggest most famous stages.
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opera. drawing crowds no cast and crew would want. they're against this. a lot of protesters saying this grossly misrepresents a real life event that happened in 1985. here's the back story if you're not familiar. terrorists from the palestine liberation organization hijacked a cruise ship, they shot leon kinghopper, this jewish passenger in a wheelchair and tossed his body overboard. ♪ among the demonstrators, former new york mayor rudy giuliani wrote this in the play bill of the performance. this is what you get to walk in
and see this. they write the opera, quote, offers no insight into the historical reality and a senseless murder of an american jew. it rationalizes, romanticizes and rej-- the anti-defamation league, michael, thank you so much for coming in. i walked through the protests last night inadvertently and said, we have to tell this story. you last night went to the premiere. you were there for dress rehearsal. you saw it. how do you feel about the met choosing to have this on stage? >> we've been the first production of this opera was in 1991 in brussels. made the world premiere. it has been performed in the united states in the past. it was in brooklyn and elsewhere in the u.s. our preference all along from the get go has been that this shouldn't be performed. and while we respect the right
of the producers and the artists to go ahead, we appeal to their sense of moral responsibility, sense of conscience. i think the opening that you did with the statement from the sisters really summarizes why it is objectionable and deeply offensive. >> a lot of when you read about this, criticism is it's inaccurate to history or it humanizes these plo terrorists. you've seen it. give me an example. how does it do that? >> structurally, structurally provides the justification for the act of terror. one, the hijacking of the ship. and two, the senseless singling out of a passenger, an american jew to be murdered. now, this was in the pursuit of
a grievance against the state of israel. why attack an italian cruiseship, single out an american jew and murder that american jew? >> we wanted to make sure we had both sides of the story. we offered another seat to other folks, they couldn't make it. let me play two things. first, this is the current new york mayor bill de blasio responding to what we heard rudy giuliani's criticism of this opera. take a listen. >> the former mayor had a history of challenging cultural institutions when he disagreed with our content, i don't think that's the american way. >> and then just something else, this is a quote i read in the "new york times." the artistic director of the public theater says, it's not only permissible, it is required for the met to do this piece. it is a powerful and important opera. and one of my thoughts was for a lot of americans who until this
moment or arriving in new york and seeing this opera at the met would have no idea who mr. klinghopper was. >> i think that's a critical observation. and part of what mayor de blasio said. we have spent 100 years as an organization defending the right for americans to express themselves artistically and every other way. without interference from the government. and what the mayor was referring to was -- something about the government interfering, the met has the right to put this on, the artists have the right to perform it. and the composer had the right to create it. but that doesn't mean that it is the right thing to do. and here the protesters that you observed -- >> it's a reflection of how
emotional this issue is in new york city on, you know, a cultural institution that is -- >> the opera houses. >> right. and what we did in dealing with the met and expressing our distress about the production going forward was to say you're going to take this highly visible cultural icon of the metropolitan opera and magnify it globally at a time when there's been an explosion of anti-semitic violence around the world and an explosion of terrorism. >> but as you point out, it is their right, it is their right. and as you, you know, it was ultimately up to the met and the met chose to have the opera run. thank you so much for coming in and expressing your side. i really do appreciate it. >> thanks. good to be here. >> it's so emotional. so glad we got you to come in. coming up, a teenager accused of joining isis vows to
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a new propaganda video from the terror group isis vowing to drape a black flag over the white house and drape a black flag above britain's buckingham palace. an australian teenager just 17 years of age and cnn's amy laport has more on the teen that ran away to join isis. >> reporter: he told his family he was going on a fishing trip. they never saw him again until now. the new face of isis propaganda.
a 17-year-old australian boy appearing in this video threatening president obama and for the first time australia's prime minister. tony abbott. behead the tyrants, he says, warning that isis will never stop fighting, not until it has conquered the west. until we put the black flag on top of buckingham palace, until was put the black flag on top of the white house, we will not stop. with his red hair, he's known as the ginger jihadist. he reportedly disappeared in june with a friend that he hadn't gone fishing. he boarded a plane from sydney, then on to malaysia, to thailand. their final stop, turkey. he then crossed the border into northern iraq finding a new home fighting under the black flag of isis. his family's home is in the western suburbs of sydney, the very same place where last month
police spoiled a home grown beheading plot and carried out the country's largest terror raids. >> these people, i regret to y say, do not hate us for what we do. they hate us for who we are and how we live. >> this new video raising more questions about how much australia's involvement is creating a new threat on their own soils. we do have breaking news right now on the war against isis. including news that the u.s. has lost track. >> well, brooke, i sat down with matt olson, the former director of the national terrorism center. stepped down a couple of weeks ago. this is the gathering point for really all the intelligence about terror threats comes into the u.s. it was started eafr 9/11
particularly for this task. and i talked with him about a number of things. what struck me, following edward snowden's revelations of nsa surveillance, the terrorists have changed the way they communicate and the way they travel to the point that the u.s. intelligence community has lost track of several senior terrorists because they've gone to ground. that's a tremendous concern. the other point he made was talking about the khorasan group. you remember this, at the start of the syria air strikes a couple of weeks ago, few weeks now, u.s. officials said they struck not only isis targets there, but al khorasan group, a collection of former al qaeda leaders, senior members, gathered in syria and plotting an imminent threat, imminent attack on the u.s. he told me today that those u.s. led air strikes have not diminished that imminent threat. not degraded it. have a listen to how he described it. >> everything i've seen, i think that threat is still in the same
place it was before. and that is this group was in a position to train, you know, without any sort of interference. they were able to recruit opentives. we saw that they were looking to test explosives. so they were in, you know, the advance stages of plotting. and, again, they had both that intent and what we saw was that capability that put them into this, you know, nearing an execution phase of an attack. >> so the khorasan group still has the ambition and the capability to attack the u.s. and u.s. interests, and that's not been diminished by the u.s. led air strike. he did tell me, brooke, however, that it is believed that there is evidence that some senior al khorasan leaders were killed in those strikes. but, again, as far as the danger posed by the group, that hasn't changed. >> that is concerning to all of the above. thank you so much for that update. coming up, a paralyzed man with no signs of improvement walks again.
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could this lead to a cure for paralysis? that might be getting ahead of ourselves, but he became a paraplegic. doctors than began this pioneer therapy injecting his nasal cells into the damaged area. he is now able to walk, as you can see, with a frame. surgeons in poland performed the work based upon research from the university college institute of neurology. a researcher says, yes, this is a breakthrough, but much is still unknown. >> we have opened the door to a future treatment. it's the procedure -- this is the first time that a neurosurgeon in poland has applied it the exact procedure to the patient human patient. until we repeat this in a number more patients, it's just that. it's one patient. >> right.
>> one patient, i hear that, elizabeth cohen. and i think i have a feeling as to what you'll say, as well. but can you just -- when we hear nasal cells, do we know exactly why or what that means? >> it seems, brooke, these cells sort of had an ability when you put them in a culture to grow into the kind of nerve cells that would help repair this. that kind of cut out semicircle where the knife went through, the spinal cord and where the damage was done. and where you see the lines, that's the new nerve tissue formed from the nose. seems there was some property in these nasal cells that just allowed them to grow very nicely into the kind of nerve cells that would -- that might help this man's back. >> so put this in context, when we talk about this pioneering technology, is this something where, you know, doctors around the world are all incredibly excited about? or is this tempered?
>> so, brooke, ten years from now, when you and i are having a cup of coffee. whatever happened to that story, elizabeth? i might say, oh, it's exciting, or say, oh, that never went anywhere. it was just -- it kind of works, but it kind of works but when they tried it on other people, it didn't pan out. i'll tell you, this is not the first time that certain kind of cells have helped paralyzed people and you never hear anything about it again. >> thank you so much, and i'll see you before that -- >> okay. >> coming up, have you heard this story? here's a quote. mr. president, don't touch my girlfriend. those words from a man here in chicago who voted alongside president obama as part of early voting yesterday. see how the president responds. we'll talk live with the couple coming up. don't miss it. ur money? uhhh. no, that can't happen. that's the thing, you don't know how long it has to last.
his designs have stunned, oscar dela renta has passed away at 82. once saying, quote, there is no sound more feminine than a woman in a taffeta dress. we are getting all kinds of reaction from designers, including michael kor saying exclusively to cnn that his life and work was full of glamour, passion and longevity.
and this from former first lady laura bush. she says, we will always remember him as the man who made women look and feel beautiful. cnn's jason carroll has the story. >> reporter: dressing women from the red carpet to the white house for nearly 50 years. legendary fashion designer oscar de la renta has died. cause unclear. >> you are fascinating in your dress. >> de la renta style is spanning generations from taylor swift to oprah winfrey, draping themselves in his couture. hbo's hit series "sex and the city" centered an entire episode around one of his stunning creations. >> oscar de la renta. now that is beautiful. >> the fashion icon's final masterpiece, dubbed the celebrity wedding of the year.
>> oscar de la renta was the ultimate diplomat for fashion. designers and post war america who really came out from the back rooms and put their own names on the label. >> original from the dominican republic, moved to new york in 1965 launching his own label and stitching his way into america's history forever. >> i am an unbelievable lucky man. i live in the best country any human being can live. >> reporter: though he had a reputation of dressing socialites, he also dressed every first lady since jacqueline kennedy. hillary clinton wore one of his gowns to bill clinton's second inauguration, as did laura bush for george w. in 2005. even the current first lady michelle obama could not escape the sultan of suave. >> in the united states, we want
to be proud of our first lady and what she looks like. >> jason carroll, cnn, new york. this is cnn breaking news. >> and here we go. we begin with breaking news. thank you so much for being with me. up first this hour, american jeffrey foel is free of the clutches of north korea's communists. the 56-year-old tourist detained since may has, in fact, landed in guam aboard a u.s. government airplane. north korea freed him in the dark of night without really saying why. as they still hold two americans convicted there of crimes. he had been awaiting charges for leaving a bible, which is forbidden in north korea in a nightclub. but the timing here of this release, the timing here is certainly curious, and we'll talk about that in a moment. but first, here is confirmation about the release from the white house. >> in a position to confirm that jeffrey has been allowed to