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canada stephen harper. and you can always treat me at wolf blitzer or treat me at cnn sit room. thank you for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. >> a canadian gunman shoots and kills a shoulder in ottawa. parliament is on lockdown still. the prime minister will speak live in the next hour. was this an act of isis. plus the u.s. police and military on high alert after the attack. are americans also targets? a newly released autopsy result appear to black us police officer darren wilson's sorry about the ferguson shooting f. there is no indictment, will violence erupt? let's go "outfront." good evening, i'm erin
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burnett. "outfront" tonight, the breaking news. we know the game of the gunman. the likely shoot ser a canadian. michael zehaf-bibeau. born in 1982, 32 years old. he was a convert to islam. they are searching for additional suspects and at this moment parliament is still on lockdown in canada. the gunman walked up to a soldier shooting and killing him, standing guard at a war memorial in the center of the canada capital. there is dramatic video inside of the building as heavily armed police officers entered with guns drawn and dozens of shots rang out. [ gunfire ]
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[ yelling ] >> a reporter from the city news toronto caught the sounds of the tense moments on tape. >> i don't know. there is a bunch of gunshots. >> what is going on? >> there is a guy with a shotgun out there. >> a guy with a shotgun? >> yes. i saw him. [ gunfire ] [ yelling ] >> get out. now, now. >> where do we go? where do we go? >> questions without answers. and moments later the barrage of gunfire. [ gunfire ]
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>> the gunman trapped in the building was shot and killed by a sergeant at arms. at this hour canadian authorities confirm a search for additional suspects is ongoing. meanwhile the united states is on high alert for any additional attacks in the u.s. cnn national correspondent susan candiotti is live. they are looking for another shooter and they have identified the soldier. what else do you know? >> reporter: they are trying to find out all of the information they can about the suspected shooter who is identified as mike zehaf-bibeau. he is in his early 30s, born in 1982 and born in canada. and our sources tell us he is a convert to islam and prior to this he had a long history of
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drug problems and he has a years long history of drug arrest in his past. canadian authorities trying to track down everything they can find out about him, with a great deal of heb from the fbi who -- help from the fbi who is trying to track any footprint they can find on him. looking into his phone records, into his use of the internet, his e-mails to see whether he did this on his own, whether he discussed with anyone, whether he had help from anyone else. so these are all of the many outstanding questions they have. and many more beyond that as they try to figure out what led to this shooting. erin. >> susan, thank you very much. as we're trying to get more information as we get more, it is just getting things like the name, just within the past hour or so. so as we get more information we are bringing it to you. at this moment they are still searching for more suspects. officials on the american side of the border are on heightened alert, nine hours after the first shooting, parliament is canada is still on lockdown
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because they don't know if there are still more out there. jim sciutto reports. [ gunfire ] >> reporter: terror on canada's parliament hill. >> there is a shooter on the loose. >> reporter: 9:52 a.m., shots ring out at the war memorial, the victim a canadian soldier standing guard at the site. >> the guy came to the side, on my left hand side and came out with a rifle and shot at the man and then the guy went falling down. >> reporter: from the scene, police received multiple 911 calls. >> all of a sudden i heard a shot and turned around and there was a guy with a rifle just around on the back corner, and just -- pow. >> reporter: moments later, around 10:00 a.m., shots fired inside of the parliament building just a few hundred yards away. police scramble, a second round of shooting follows a minute later.
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[ gunfire ] >> reporter: law enforcements inside of the building huddle in a caucus room where they pile up chairs against the door to barricade themselves in. police rush others outside to safety. >> you heard this pop, pop, pop. possibly ten shots and the security guards come rushing down the hallways and usher us out to the back of the parliament buildings. >> reporter: in the chai os, the sergeant at arms shooting down a suspect. shortly after 1:00 p.m. canadian parliament said the soldier shot at the war memorial is dead. an hour later canadian police announce a suspected shooter, a male, is also dead. police however still unsure whether another gunman remains on the loose. >> we are still investigating the active operation. we are in the process right now with the rcmp in clearing and securing parliament hill and that is a slow and methodical approach. >> reporter: and tonight the capital of ottawa is still on
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alert. the canadian government believe some 90 people have joined jihad, about the same number as the u.s., but with less population. and they might be tighted to islamic extremism, because the suspect was a convert to islam and the target was soldiers and just two days ago another extremist in canada drove his car into another canadian soldier killing him. the concern is you have young canadians answering the call of isis and other groups to carry out jihad in their own home. >> thank you very much. and jerry burn was there when it happened and still on lockdown tonight inside of the building. maggie miller is a reporter with the vancouver observer. i want to start with you, matt. jerry is on the phone with us because he is still in the lockdown perimeter. matt, you were there this morning. you shot a video of people
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running from the shooting. i know you were there and covering the fact that canada had raised the terror alert last week and a lot of canadians weren't aware of this. it sounds like they knew something was coming? >> reporter: it is hard to speculate at this point, erin. a little too soon to tell. but what you saw in the video happened below my feet and behind my back. a gentleman entered the building, a very loud bang was heard. there is a lot of construction in parliament so we weren't necessarily sure if this was anything to take credence of but immediately after that there was a lot of shouting, gunfire going off from security at that point. at least two dozen rounds by my count at kwh point -- which point we barricaded in an office for at least an hour. my prayers go out to everyone effected and my colleagues who remain in the building at this time. >> and jerry, you are in the building right now and in
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lockdown now for nine hours and you were in a meeting when the shooting began and they are still looking for other suspects. do you have any idea when the lockdown will end and that's changed at all in terms of where they are looking? >> there has been some change, but no, i cannot tell you exactly when the lockdown will end. it will end when the police authorities are absolutely confident that there is no other assailant or they can apprehend whatever other assailants might be out there. i can tell you that there was -- the entire downtown perimeter, the core of ottawa, the nation's capit capital, has been under a lockdown. they reduced the perimeter to more -- more closely around the parliament building just a few minutes ago, i understand, and they reinstated the original parliame perimeter. so things are changing in dynamic as said before but it doesn't look like an end is in sight. >> they narrowed it and expanded
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it again. and we know the suspect converted to islam and isis has told others to attack military, soldiers, however, whenever they can. this monday, two days ago, a jihadist killed another soldier in canada. do you think this was related to islamic extremism? >> i cannot speculate that. but those here in the nation's capitol and across the entire country are on high alert and pursuing what they know to be the responsible course of action which is to be vigilant and at this time it would be irresponsible to speculate or conjecture to what is happening. but we can be reassured and somewhat comforted by the fact that police authorities here in canada are stepping up and doing the job that needs to be done. >> matt, ottawa is an hour from the united states border and many police forces in the united states are on heightened alert.
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canadian officials have said, and we have heard the number throughout the day, they have 90 suspected extremists in canada right now looking to join the fight in the middle east. just days ago, one of those 90 individuals ran down two soldiers and killed one. these people are supposedly being monitored. that happened. and now this happened tonight. we don't know that this is related to extremism. but the question i have for you is, do officials have a real handle on the whereabouts and actives of -- activities of those 90 people? >> erin, here is what i will say. it is a very dangerous situation for canada. we have a certain amount of people that are known to authorities as potential extremisms. but what i can say that as of today, canada has lost its innocence. there was a period of time that we thought this couldn't happen here or if the halls of our parliament, but as of today everything has changed. this is definitely an unprecedented situation for the country. to more waking up in ottawa, it will be a very different day and
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a different country moving forward. >> i'm sure it will. and jerry, we hope you will be home in the morning. we know that there will be a lot of changes coming to canada. thanks to both of you. and "outfront" next, more breaking news. we're expecting a live press conference from the prime minister of canada, stephen harper. we'll take you there live when we have it. two canadian soldiers have been killed in the past three days. are they targeting american military too. and afraid of the big and growing numbers of jihad in canada, our officials looking south, are they focusing on the smaller board. and an autopsy, evidence appearing to support police officer darren wilson's story that he shot an unarmed black teen in self-defense. will the city erupt in violence if he is not indicted. and we are standing by for the press conference with stephen harper. as soon as that happens we'll take you live. ♪ music
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breaking news, the united states military on high alert after a soldier guarding canada' national war memorial was shot dead. new security measures are in place at the tomb of the unknowns at the arlington cemetery and calling for a tax on military and lawsuit in the united states.
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the pentagon correspondent barbara starr joins me now. and barbara, there is a way in perhaps there never has been before, threat against the u.s. military of a lone wolf style of attack. what are you hearing from your sources? >> well this is coming from the highest levels, just a short time ago. defense secretary chuck hagel issued a statement here at the pentagon tonight. of course, expressing his condolences to the canadian military and also saying -- the secretary saying the north american aerospace command will continue to monitor the situation closely and stands ready to assist our canadian allies in the aftermath of the tragedy eekt -- events. what happened today, as the pentagon was unfamiliar with how things were unfolding, nor add put additional aircraft on stand-by, a higher state of alert ready to move into canadian air space if that became necessary.
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so far it is not. there is also increased security, however, at the tomb of the unknowns at arlington national cemetery here, hollowed ground, erin. but there is a group of military personnel that stands guard there around the clock. very similar to where the canadian war memorial attack unfolded today and in order to keep those young american military personnel safe, some additional security measures in place for them tonight. erin. >> and barbara, i know you learned that army intelligence has been warned of isis inspired attacks of military when they are at home and in the united states. have they given any details on what sort of threats they are looking at? >> reporter: what they have been saying, really since about august or september, and they have issued intelligence bulletins on this, that isis and isis-inspired militants are all over social media with a lot of propaganda, calling for violence
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against u.s. military personnel. so an intelligent bulletin went out reminding military people about being careful and cautious and knowing that isis is out there on social media. and this attack, we do not know who exactly might have motivated the attacker, what his affiliations were. but it does go to the scenario that worries them the most, this lone wolf attack scenario, inspired perhaps by various militant movements, almost impossible to predict and impossible to track and get to these lone wolves very often ahead of time. but this is really the central threat, if you will, that has the u.s. military so concerned here at home and where u.s. military families live and work. erin. >> barbara, thank you very much. and joining me now, phil mud and paul construction shank and juliette kaiham. good to have all of you.
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phil, let me start with you. given the nature of the threat and two soldiers killed in canada in three days, what can really be done to protect military personnel? >> not much, erin. that is the bad news. the problem is in the world i used to live in, the conventional al qaeda world, you have a target that is al qaeda that gives you a profile. you have a central leadership and it communicates and you can target the communication and run informants into them and look at foreign security and friendly security services that might have penetration of al qaeda. when you are talking about an individual, maybe two individuals here who simply sit in a basement and look at videos and decide they want to go kill a military officer, we can protect maybe military bases better and do what barbara was talking about in terms of air space but there is not much you can do if somebody wants to take a weapon and shoot up a public place. >> and canada raised the terror alert on friday and had an
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attack on monday and that was one of the 90 that canada was watching, because they were concerned about these kind of events. tonight we learned the canada suspect might have been one of the 90, but it raises the question, these might be names they were already looking for. it makes it more frightening that they didn't see it coming. >> that is right. and the attack on monday was part of the 90 people they were watching, somebody who tried to go and fight in syria but they prevented from fighting in syria by confiscating his passport. they were talking to him earlier this month and yet he was still able to carry out a terrorist attack, killing a canadian soldier by ramming his car into him on monday. so even if people are on the radar screen, it is often difficult for authorities to prevent them from carrying out terrorist attacks. they just don't have the man power to watch all of these people 24/7. >> and julian, that is
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frightening, in the u.s. they have people like that they are tracking and then the reality that whatever sort of rules that we're given, free speech or free movement and you didn't prove what they were going to do and so you have to sit back and wait and watch for something like this? >> yes, that is the challenge of counter terrorism in a democracy which is the same challenge canada does, as we do, freedom of expression and assembly and religion. and that makes it more difficult. but these are democracies in which most of the people in the countries are not becoming radicalized. that is the good news. and however scary that there are lone wolves, they are not highly sophisticated attacks bringing down buildings with 3000 people in them. that this is -- these are attacks that seem to be relatively quick. this looked like a suicide mission. we don't know if it is one or two and it is an incredibly long
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lockdown and so there may be a second one they are looking for. >> it is incredibly long. nine hours ab still under lockdown to emphasize to our viewers tonight. there have been isis inspired attacks in three countries, in australia, the united kingdom and canada. the u.s. had a beheaded inspired by isis in oklahoma. this is the scale of attacks you are concerned about, the lone wolf style events or is it possible there could be something even bigger in scale? >> i think what you are seeing is most likely what we'll see in the future because isis right now is not focused on the united states. they are focused on taking baghdad and cities in anbar province. and isis's energies are not focused on new york city. but the problem in this case and one of the reasons that i worry about people not born into islam but converts is the emotional impact of this fight, especially for converts, and in my
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experience they are more emotionally driven than people born into the faith, they can see images from the fight and turnsy switch quickly to conduct a attack like this. >> julia, how big is your fear for the u.s.? >> it is elevated today. and i think we always should assume there are sociopaths, others who will become radicalized and try to attack us. i like the focus on the military right now in terms of protecting them, being careful when they go out in public in uniform and protecting families because it looks like there is a specific focus on military and law enforcement and protecting them is of utmost important for all of our security. >> thank you very much to all three of you tonight. and next fbi and u.s. intelligence officials are trying to learn more about the shooter that terrorized ottawa. was it part of a bigger down. and again after nine whos the lockdown is still in place as
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they are searching for another shooter. and dozens of jihadists are ready to launch home grown attacks. there is a lot of focus on the border and it is shorter than the one in the north, so are we looking in the wrong place. and we'll waiting for a press conference coming live from the prime minister stephen harper. we'll take you there live when it happens. (receptionist) gunderman group. gunderman group is growing. getting in a groove. growth is gratifying. goal is to grow. gotta get greater growth. i just talked to ups. they got expert advise,
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breaking news, another major security problem at the white house. pam, what have you learned? >> we are trying to learn what happened but what we are learning here, erin, there was a man that jumped the white house fence at the north lawn, the same place where just several weeks ago omar gonzalez jumped the fence and as we know made it into the white house before he was apprehended by secret service. tonight this man jumped the fence of the north lawn and made it in several yards, about 25-30 yards, according to one of the eyewitnesses that we've spoken to. he was then apprehended by secret service. at first, from what we could
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see, the suspect was resisting. and then he was handcuffed and taken away. but we did see one of the agents, they were both uniformed and in plain clothes officers, we did see one agent have his gun pointed at the man when all of this was transpiring. this is still unfolding but we did see the man taken away by authorities and we'll bring you any additional details as we get them. >> pam, thank you very much. still pretty stunning, as pamela is reporting 20-30 yards over the fence. so still a lot farther than people might have expected. >> and breaking news, the united states on alert after shots were shot inside and outside of canada parliament. it has been more than nine hours since what you are looking at has transpired. it is still in lockdown as they are looking for a possible second shooter. i emphasis possible. but we just heard from someone in the building that they narrowed the zone for people to
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go in and out and they have now expanded it again. a soldier is dead along with one gunman and there are concerns tonight that this was an act of terror. all of this less than an hour's drive from the united states border. the fbi is putting the offices nationwide on alert in light of the shootings. there was recent isis chatter calling for attacks against the government. u.s. intelligence agencies are working with canada to find out who is truly responsible for the attack. of course we have a name of a man born in 1982, to 32, early 30s who had been a recent convert to islam and a known past history of drug use. cnn's chris cuomo is out front in ottawa tonight. chris, canadian officials are telling us that michael zehaf-bibeau is the likely shooter. law enforcement is now also involved. can you tell us what they are looking at and what they know? >> reporter: yeah, i can. we can confirm there had been chatter here. and it is creating a lot of
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confusion and here is why, erin. the typical way to look at this was this was an unsophisticated act by a lone wolf or someone who is frankly psychotic. it is not the kind of way that a group knowing what they would do would waste an asset, not killing more people. but because of the recent chatter, it had been advocating unsophisticated knife and gun-type missions like this. so what the u.s. authorities are doing right now is they are trying to help coordinate the chatter that was being heard in canada. one of the frustrations here for the u.s. side is that canada has been monitoring hundreds of people who may have been being swayed by these types of calls for violence. another source of confusion, erin, is that according to the latest reporting, both the man who was killed on monday, and the man suspected of being the shooter and killed here today, were both already flagged by canadian authorities. and a working theory that u.s.
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intel sources have is that there was frustration on bee half of people -- be half of people not able to fight in jihad and instead looking for a way to die with honor here and that is how you see something that seems unsophisticat unsophisticated. but if you look at today, as haphazard as it is, attacking the soldier protecting the war memorial, and why not kill others. and in jihad to kill military is more honorable. and the second part of the stolen car to get to parliament still not making sense. but u.s. intel are confused with what they are dealing with here, because, erin, you are usually trying to track this to other groups, who they would have gotten money from or education from online. and here they are looking -- at
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it in simple terms tonight. >> thank you very much. and tonight with me congress ed royce. you've been following this situation closely and been briefed. is this an act of terror? >> everything here points to an act of troir and this is not the -- terror and this is not the first time. in 2006 a group of 18 radicals attempted at that time to put together a plat with amonium night rate, three tons, to blow up part of the parliament building and they were subsequently convicted, they had a plot to attempt to abduct the prime minister of canada and to be head him. so there is a past history of the parliament being a target for these types of attacks. >> and you mentioned the prime minister. we are waiting, he is expected to be momentarily speaking live. we are taking that live because i want to emphasize to our viewers, there is still a lockdown after nine hours looking for a possible second
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shooter. are you worried about this happening in the united states? >> i think the one question -- i talked to one of the members of parliament today who was in lockdown there and what he told me was the great shock was that this individual had driven a car right up to the front of parliament, which was, with all of the barriers in place, that was not anticipated, came right in through the door shooting. and so i think all of us have to ask, are we doing enough? now i talked to the assistant secretary in charge of diplomatic security today as well, we are taking every precaution but the problem is that a request went out 30 days ago from isis to carry out lone wolf attacks against these targets, including france, the united states and our other allies. and clearly canada has put up a squadron of fighter planes against isis so they are part of the target list.
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>> they took off yet just heading to kuwait. but the issue that he drove right up to the edge of parliament. you heard chris cuomo say his name was known to canadian law enforcement and perhaps one of the 90 individuals who tried to go fight in the middle east and could not leave the country and was flagged because of that intent. and on monday, the man -- the man who killed a soldier and ran him over was on that list. this is scary. these are people that are known. a lone wolf might be something you never heard of but they know about these guys? >> one of the real challenges under british law and to some extent in canada is that they are trying to monitor and follow known individuals with jihadist intentions and trying to catch them in the act. and of course, that is a very, very difficult thing to do. and in canada there are 90 people on this list. i'm sure there will be more resources deployed now in terms of following them in realtime.
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but i think laws may be changed a bit so that when there is evidence that someone went to try to fight in the case -- on monday, we know that is the case, he was trying to get into fight with isis in syria through turkey, there should be the ability of law enforcement to intercede in those cases. >> to do more. and what about the border? when you look at this happening in canada, the same about a number of jihady but perhaps a population that is smaller. you look at the border. the border from mexico is less than half as long as the u.s. shared with canada. 1800 border agents on the mexico border and only 2,000 on the canada border. that is a scary thing. >> there was an attempt in the northwest, an attempted crossing to carry out a terrorist attack
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during the millennium and that was intercepted because of the good work of a border agent, as i recall at the time. so we have since 9/11 put down a lot of these al qaeda oriented attempted attacks. the lone wolf element throws in a new curve into this. so your point is well-taken that this will become much more complex with what we were facing after 9/11, there were small cad rays of individuals that we were able to talk and now you are talking about a larger audience. but not with the magnitude -- the attacks of the magnitude that al qaeda was trying to do at the time. these will be more pinprick attacks. >> thank you so much for your time tonight. >> thank you. and more breaking news. we're standing by for a press conference with canada prime minister stephen harper. we'll take you there live. and new details on the
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welcome to our viewers around the world. we have breaking news. we are awaiting a press conference with the prime minister of canada, steven harper. he is going to be talking about the events which terrorized the canadian capitol today. the minute he begins speaking we will bring you there live. that moment, crowds are gathering across the united states in a nationwide call for justice. it has been 74 days since white police officer darren wilson shot and killed 18-year-old michael brown. an unarmed black teen-ager in ferguson, missouri. the protests are stretching from the east coast to the west coast in california. and tonight on the streets tensions are rising as details from the autopsy and the officer's account contradict what many in the community
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believe took place on august 9th. sarah is out front in ferguson, missouri, with more zblfrmt the autopsy report is the latest leek from the investigation into his death. the report first leaked to the st. louis post-dispatch reveals two details the public has not heard before. details about the gunshot wound to brown's hand and forensic information that could help determine whether the teen had his hands up while being shot. witnesses, including this construction worker, have told cnn brown had his hands up when he was shot by police officer darren wilson. >> [ inaudible ]. >> we had an independent forensic expert examine the autopsy which revealed where the bullets entered and exited the body. >> did the details of the autopsy give any indication brown's hands were up while being shot? >> i don't think so, based upon the positioning of the wounds. the entrance and exits and then
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reentrance, based upon all of that and the right arm wounds, it is justin consistent with him having his hands up. i understand other people might argue and interpret it differently. >> reporter: but the autopsy cannot reveal if browns hands were up in the pause between shots in the car remaining shots. the autopsy also detailed a wound to the inside of his right hand near his thumb and palm. one expert told the st. louis post-dispatch that that would indicate brown was reaching for wilson's gun, but forensic experts said it is hard to determine if brown was reaching for the unholstered gun in the patrol car but there was clearly a struggle. >> there is also blood, michael brown's blood on the gun. and there is also michael brown's tissue on the outside of the driver's side door. when you put all of that together, it really fits with a struggle that took place inside
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the vehicle. and again, it supports the story of the police officer rather tan the eyewitness testimony. >> we had no weapons on us at all. >> reporter: brown's friend who witnessed the shooting said wilson was at gressor, trying to pull the 18-year-old into his car while brown was trying to run away. michael brown's family attorney reacted to the leak saying it is missing a key point. officer wilson, it says, shot michael brown multiple times and killed him even though he was more than 20 feet away from his patrol car. this is the crux of the matter. some activists on twitter are calling the prosecutor's evidence tainted and part of a cover-up. the prosecutor denied the accusation, saying the evidence has been processed by both the county and fbi laboratories. with every leak, tensions grow. ultimately there is a great concern that the grand jury decision could respark major
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unrest in ferguson. >> people are scared and they are stockpiling and saying they can't get out of the house. it is people that are scared and other people that are so angry they don't care. >> reporter: the grand jury has to look at all of the evidence, the forensic evidence and the witness evidence and all of it to decide whether or not officer darren wilson feared for his life and acted legally when he used deadly force or whether he killed michael brown illegally. now we just have this in from attorney general eric holder who said he is very disappointed in the leaks that have come out that are supposed to be secret and the protesters here said it agitated them, every time the leaks come out, they feel like the justice system is failing them. erin. >> thank you very much. the world will watch to see what happens when that decision comes to the grand jury. we are just moments away from a live press conference from the prime minister of canada steven harper. as officials tell cnn more suspects pay be on the loose.
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almost nine hours, almost ten hours after the shooting are still on lockdown in the canadian parliament. we'll bring you that news conference
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welcome back to our viewers in the united states and around tell world. the breaking news, we are waiting for a press conference from the prime minister of canada, steven harper, to speak to the nation of canada and to the world about what happened. we know the name now of the suspect who opened fire today. a canadian, michael zehaf-bibeau, the suspected shooter. the prime minister will give us more details hopefully. also at this moment, the canadian capital still in lockdown, they are still in lockdown as they are looking for a possible second shooter. our chief correspondent jim sciutto has more as we wait for the speech, the comments that we'll hear from the prime minister of canada. juliette, what do you think the
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prime minister will say, needs to say? there are still so many questions here about whether they knew this individual's name beforehand and of course about the fact there is still a lockdown in parliament right now. >> well, i would anticipate that he doesn't want to get ahead of the facts confirmed. right now we don't even know if there was a second shooter. so his role was as commander-in-chief. to calm the nerves. and canada had always thought it was relatively immune from the kinds of incidents that we have faced. and then of course there is still a lockdown, which as i said earlier it is a remarkably long time at this stage for them not to know whether there are other shooters. so i have to believe that they have some evidence that there is someone still out and about, because this is not -- this is the tenth hour now. >> it is the tenth hour. and as jim sciutto said, this is an incredibly long time, you
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have the lawmakers, people who are still waiting. >> you do. it is an open question there, and i know there is an increasing focus on the islamic extremists, on this attack, it is not hard but there are us officials telling us that he was a convert to islam. that certainly by itself is not conclusive but it is an indicator combined with the fact that the target was a soldier. combined with the fact that just two days ago you had a similar attack, another lone wolf attacking a canadian soldier with a car in that case instead of with a gun. the difficulty with these attacks, the u.s. is facing the same lone wolf problem. i interviewed matt olson, and he said the most likely attack to see on u.s. soil is a lone wolf attack. they are hard to track. you wouldn't have say necessarily a phone call from inside the country to outside the country contact telling you
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what to do for instance. you wouldn't have an entry on a terror watch list, they're already here. it could be somebody in the basement plotting it. >> before we go, the chairman of the house affairs committee said look, we don't know if this is an attack, is it fair to call it that? >> he entered the parliamentary building, it was known that the prime minister was there. i think we have to assume it was some form of active terror but don't know if it was lone wolf. >> all right, thank you very much to both of you, we'll be right back as we wait for the prime minister of canada. (receptionist) gunderman group.
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welcome back to our viewers in the united states and around the world. we are waiting for a statement from the prime minister of canada, steven harper. he is going to be speaking to canada and to the world. an event that has terrorized canada and from so many canadians today has described the event that changed the country's history. an act that certainly terrorized canada as a man drove up to the building, the prime minister was there, got out, shot a soldier and tried to kill others. and this story continues, ten hours later they are still on lockdown in that parliament building looking for a second shooter. we'll see if the prime minister
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will give us information if there is a second shooter, and if this was expiinspired by isi. and we'll learn more from the prime minister. anderson cooper begins his program right now. good evening, from ottawa, canada, a city that is stunned at this hour, the violence they have witnessed over the last several hours. the situation right here now is very tense still, much of the area we're in, very near parliament hill is still in lockdown. the national war memorial is just a few blocks over that hill, a couple of blocks away from here. that is where a soldier was shot and killed earlier today. a gunman then moving towards parliament hill where a security officer was shot, the gunman himself shot and killed inside that building. there is a lot to get to ahead. we are anticipating a press conference from canada's prime minister, steven harper. of course we'll bring that to you live. we're also