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spectacular rocket explosion overnight. it is a major mystery this morning. nasa and its space partners are trying to determine what went wrong. listen to this -- >> man! oh, so shocking to see it. it brings up all of those memories of the challenger, the rocket blew up seconds into lift-off crashing into the launch pad. the rocket was developed by a private company, transporting some 5,000 pounds of supplies and experiments to the crew on board the international space station. we're following all of the angles for to you try to get answers, we begin with cnn's tom foreman live in washington. what do we know? >> we know at this hour, investigators are spreading out around wollops island, virginia, to start collecting all of the data as the first light of the day comes in they know they have to pick up every piece of debris they can. that's the only way that they can solve this explosive and
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amazing mystery. >> and we have lift-off -- >> the first stage was seconds into a four-minute burn when the antares rocket stalled, fell backward and exploded. nearly three-quarters of a million pounds of thrust went haywire and spectators across the bay say the blast shook the ground even there. >> we felt the concussion, it was a huge blast. it hit us, it sounded like a sonic boom. >> it also clearly shook virginia-based orbital sciences, the private contract that are built the rocket under a $2 billion contract with nasa now needs answers. >> the investigation will include evaluating the debris that we will find around the launch pad. if you find anything that washes ashore in the local area or came down in on your farm, definitely do not touch it. >> no one was hurt in the explosion, but gone in a
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flash -- 1600 pounds of science experiments on everything from meteors to human blood flow. more than 1600 pounds of hardware, computers, space walk equipment and 1400 pounds of food for the iss crew. that does not create an instant emergency, but it will put extra pressure on upcoming missions to reestablish the supply chain to those astronauts in orbit. and the explosion could create political pressure in the continuing debate over how much space travel can or should be put into the hands of private companies. >> it is worth noting that a russian rocket took off this very morning with more supplies. for the iss and there's another launch here by a private company, space-x should be taking off on december 9th also to rendezvous with the iss. >> tom, thanks so much. one of the big concerns is would the people in the space station be okay. we believe all the sources say the same thing -- yes, they should be. it is also a big vote for
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unmanned missions, that would have been a big part of the controversy as well. god forbid there had been some people in this rocket. why did it happen and how did happen? we know more than we're reporting so far. we're going to talk with cnn space analyst miles o'brien coming up about what we actually understand about this and what it may mean for the future of privatized space missions. and a developing story about potential terror attacks on u.s. soil. it turns out the feds are ramping up security on thousands of government buildings. the question is why. we know the action is coming after the shooting spree in ottawa last week. you remember that where this deranged gunman opened fire and killed a soldier and stormed into the parliament building before he was shot dead by the very brave sergeant at arms there. now homeland security secretary jeh johnson is calling the enhanced security a precautionary measure following ongoing terror threats. let's get the latest from cnn's justice correspondent pamela
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brown live from washington. the obvious confusion is do you have new information fueling these threats? is it just precautionary? why is it targeted to one part of the security agency? curious stuff. >> that's the big question. we are told by an official that this is not in response to any new intelligence indicating additional threats to the homeland. but that department of homeland security secretary jeh johnson is stepping up security at the government buildings in d.c. and other cities after a series of events that have u.s. authorities on high alert. this morning, concerns about terror attacks on the homeland continue. the u.s. now beefing up federal security in more than 9500 government buildings and washington, d.c. and across the country. these photos taken late tuesday reveal a much high her police presence near the white house. the department of homeland security jeh johnson says the new security measures are a precautionary step against
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terrorist organizations. >> it's simply being safe rather than sorry. >> this move comes in response to continued calls for attacks against government officials on u.s. soil. from groups like isis. >> there was a specific request made about a month ago, by isis, they're looking now at lone wolves to attack instruments of, that represent western governments basically. >> this, as the al qaeda offshot, corazon that the most recent terror attacks across the u.s. border. last wednesday, a 32-year-old muslim convert who officials say had connections with other extremists killed a canadian soldier, then opened fire inside canada's parliament. and two days before that, canadian authorities say a
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radicalized islamist struck and killed a canadian soldier with his car. the federal facilities at risk see some 1.4 million visitors daily. officials not disclosing those locations. and johnson says state and local governments need to be equally vigilant, particularly in guarding against small-scale attacks by lone offenders and urges the public to be on the lookout. bottom line, alisyn, officials don't want to take chances, so that's why they're stepping up security. >> thanks so much for all of that background. let's bring in tom fuentes, a cnn law enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director in washington. good morning. so is all of this a response to what happened in parliament in ottawa? >> i think it must be, alisyn, because it's so nonspecific. when you're talking 10,000 buildings across the country, to me, where does this end? you put more security guards in front of the buildings, well
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it's those very guards that are the targets. so if we want to make more targets available for isis to shoot at, that's one way to do it. i don't know how you call this off. we've had these threats that isis has put out on the internet. asking for people to attack soldiers or police or the government or anybody else. and i just think -- you know at some point, it's going to be difficult to stop it. in either event whether you have 10,000 additional buildings enhanced or not. >> so, it sounds like you're not a fan of this concept. but can't you just look at what's been happening here at home. two fence-jumpers have made it over the fence at the white house, one of them into the white house. isn't it time for security tune-up here? >> well you can tune it up. but if you look around, you know how, i walk around downtown washington all the time and the buildings are right up to the sidewalk, most of them. busy streets where people can do like what happened in oklahoma city. you know, use a truck bomb. drive up on the sidewalks,
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people are eating lunch and having coffee at sidewalk cafes, they're vulnerable. pedestrians at crossing walks, all the federal buildings. and this is washington, a prime target for isis or anybody else that wants to make a terrorist statement. but when you talk 10,000 buildings across the country, which buildings and what type of security? and on the other side, when do you call it off? once you dial these threats up, and enhance the security, you know it's kind of lime the embassy closings a year or so ago when you close 25 embassies, when do you decide not to close them when it's not a specific threat. when it is a specific threat, they'll eliminate it and they'll go after that group and they will do the investigation that's necessary to disrupt and dismantle a specific organization doing a specific threat. but to be just generally on guard because somebody, some deranged person in his head will take an isis order and carry it out -- it just seems to be in a
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way mission impossible. >> well here's what homeland security secretary jeh johnson says is the reason for this, beyond what happened in canada. he said the reason for this action are self-evident. the continued public calls by terrorist organizations for attacks on the homeland, including against law enforcement and other government officials. that's the reason that he's giving. but tom, i hear what you're saying, you're saying it's an exercise in futility. so what is the answer? >> i think the answer is what it has been, is to try to defeat the ideology and the long run. and we're not making really efforts at that. if we catch these terrorists, we catch people trying to join isis and fly out of the united states, we lock them up, and that's fine. except then they're in prison, able to recruit more converts. and increase that effort. and i think that you know, right now, what we're trying to do is really, you know trying to work on the symptom. it's stead of the cause.
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until we really defeat the ideology and defeat the recruiting ability of isis, you know we're really not going to be successful at this. and this will go on for decades. >> of course, it is much harder to defeat the ideology than it is to add some security officers to various federal buildings so it sounds like we will be seeing the latter happen in the next few weeks. tom fuentes, thanks so much, great to get your perspective. to that point of what's happening on the ground, the question is has there been a turn in the battle against isis? kobani, once an after-thought is now seemingly the key battleground and there was a surprise this morning in the form of reinforcements for kurdish fighters besieged by isis. more reinforcements are coming today. the surprise is who came first. and why. let's get to senior international correspondent nick paton walsh joining us from the syrian/turkish border.
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nick, what do we know? >> very volatile morning, we've seen the second large second air strikes since we arrived here this morning to go in a lot of gunfire. the syrian furds fighting for that city, expecting to see iraqi peshmerga flying in separately. them to arrive at dawn. but they got a surprise -- instead, they got more syrian rebel fighters coming in. potentially over 50, maybe as many as 200 according to their commander. that's turkey's idea to send in syrian rebel enforcements into syria here. the fighting was intense since they moved in at about 5:30 this morning and yet more will still come, too, and then there's the peshmerga as well. their convoy expected in the hours ahead. some of them already. we understand very close to the border. they're waiting for their motorized component to join up with them. they then will go through the official turkish border crossing behind me. quite close to where that plume from the air strike is at the
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moment. a lot of fighting happening right now. i think morale is high, you heard the kurds just behind me playing loud music behind me in the last few minutes. things are which changing fast of the reinforcements are on the way. the real question is, what is isis' role in this? what's their role? they can still fight back. >> we'll have to see how the reinforcements come in and how the state of play changes on the ground. stay safe and keep us informed. let's get to michaela for more. developing overnight, a potentially devastating oil spill sm in sweden. a large ship hauling 52 tons of oil has run aground in stockholm's scenic archipelago and it's spilling oil into the baltic sea. right now we're told two environmental protection vessels are steaming to the area. strong winds and waves have been reported there. we'll keep an eye on this for you. the white house shut down its computer network after it
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discovered suspicious cyberactivity. now officials aren't saying what exactly happened. but they are not calling this a hack. they say the computer systems were not damaged, and that no classified information was compromised. yet the "washington post" says hackers working for the kremlin are to blame. the police chief in ferguson, missouri, says he's not quitting, he's not been asked to quit and that he has not been fired yet. sources tell cnn that thomas jackson could be out as soon as next week. as the st. louis suburb looks to move past the fatal shooting that's made it a tense new epicenter of the national debate on race, our justice reporter evan perez is in washington with details. is he in or is he out? >> good morning, michaela. well ferguson police chief tom jackson is expected to step down as part of a plan to reform the police department there. now this is as part of a plan being discussed by local, state and federal officials, we expect an announcement could come as soon as next week. the local officials are hoping
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that this could help reduce tensions as they wait for a decision by a st. louis county grand jury on whether to bring charges against darren wilson, the officer who shot michael brown. now the plan is for the st. louis county police to temporarily take over running the ferguson police. the ferguson chief has been under pressure to quit for some time. and he tells cnn quote, nobody in my chain of command has asked me to resign. nor have i been terminated. in addition to the local investigation, there are two federal probes still going on. one into the shooting itself and one into the ferguson police department's practices. >> a lot of questions swirling. is this going to happen, what will it mean for ferguson. and the conversation going on. evan that's it, we shall see, thanks so much. an update for you now on a story we brought you yesterday. police in denver say a broncos fan who disappeared during a game last week has been found. safe and sound. 53-year-old paul kiterman had gone to the game with his step-son and a group of friends,
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but vanished at halftime. he was located tuesday in pueblo, colorado. some 112 miles away. police say there's no reason to believe any crime was committed. but what exactly happened is still a mystery. and many people want some answers. so -- first and foremost, he's aline and well and we're glad to hear that. what happened? >> we need to find that out. because that really gripped us for a few days. we thought that he had met some foul play of course. he left behind his cell phone and everything. we'll try to find out what happened over the next couple of hours and bring it to you. meanwhile a volcano erupts, sending lava creeping closer to homes. how many people are at risk at this hour as people evacuate. newsen of an explosion that looked like a volcano, but it took place on a launch pad. >> the main engine is at 108%. >> unmanned rocket is what you're looking at, luck will you unmanned, it became a fireball
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seconds after takeoff. on its way to resupply the international space station. what went wrong? and does nasa have to rethink it's reliance on private companies to carry vital payloads into space?
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welcome back to "new day." i don't know if you've been following the situation in hawaii with the lava, but you should be. they're now going to have to evacuate a town this is molten rock, we have no way to stop it. these people are all helpless to what the natural course of events are here. so right now we have cnn's martin savidge, who is following this situation. but literally, people are just watching and waiting right now. here's what we know so far. >> this has been a slow-motion disaster, officials have actually had months to prepare for it. but they admit now that it's here, it's a whole different emotional chapter. the day residents have been fearing is finally here. the town of pahoa is burning. a 2,000-degree river of molten lava that's been approaching for months is now searing the town and it's just the beginning. overnight, the first official evacuation notices went out. >> face to face, knock on the door, by a public safety
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official. >> the lava is moving at about 30 feet an hour. and at its current speed, it will cut the town's main street in less than two days. >> in a helicopter, i could follow the trail of destruction from the slopes of the kilauea volcano to the edge of town. >> that's the lava field and most of the lava is moving underground. can you see how it transforms the landscape it wipes out the vegetation. the lava invaded a local cemetery, surrounding the while tombstones. there's nothing that can be done. in other words if you're thinking why don't they divert it or try to dig a channel to go around the town? hawaii has tried that in the past. it's never been effective. on the ground, crews race to construct new roads around the lava. to keep an evacuation route open and businesses connected to the nearby city of hilo. >> hopefully we'll be able to always stay open. hopefully pahoa will still be viable. >> even as the danger creeps ever closer. some residents say they will
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stay. if only to watch their homes burn. >> when the lava flows come through their subdivision or through their area, there will be an opportunity for them to remain on site, provided it's safe to do so. >> hawaiian national guard are expected to show up bowlsterring security forces, they'll patrol streets even as parts of the town burn. back to you. >> good to have martin there. it does give you perspective of the helplessness there. the entire island is cooled off molten lava. >> and to hear him say there's nothing that can be done. that's not in our vocabulary, usually. >> to sit around and watch your house burn. let's get over to meteorologist indra petersons keeping track of the latest forecast. got some hot and cold play here. >> look at the map, how quickly this weather is going to change. as long as you're ahead of the cold front, temperatures feel very nice. you're talking about 78 degrees out towards raleigh today. but look just behind the front,
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you know exactly what is coming your way. and you probably don't like it. more and more of that cool air and even some rain showers today, all of the entire eastern seaboard. this is the best it's going to be over the next several days. why? we're going to be talking about the temperatures dipping even further. you're talking about temperatures that felt like they were in the 80s going down to the 50s. that's not even the big story. so what, 50s, right, this time of year? it is maybe this factor, snow and by the way halloween coming on friday. no one wants their first snowfall, but thursday, friday, saturday, here we go, many of you will be seeing the first flurries as early as this weekend. what's going on? here comes the first thing we're talking about some lake-effect snow, tiny flurries in the midwest and out towards the ohio valley. then the low continues to develop. make its way up the coastline so the northeast could be talking about flurries saturday night in through sunday so halloween, i'm sorry, the kids need extra layers, temperatures finally dipping back down to the 30s. i was hoping it was going to
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stay. 70s a day or two ago? why not? >> i remember every year as a kid. you had this great elaborate costume and then having to opt for face paint and a parka. >> were you in canada as a kid. >> i remember that. so depressing. >> for real snow. thanks indira. >> a massive fireball seconds after takeoff. an unmanned rocket on is its way to supply the international space station. what went wrong?
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johnson is calling the ramped-up measures precautionary. the man who led the investigation into the secret service prostitution scandal in colombia stepped down after being linked to a prostitution service. david kneeland was caught on probe in florida and identified by a woman who said he paid her for sex. citing health problems. he denies the allegations and has not been charged. federal regulators say a sleep-deprived engineer nodded off at the controls of a metro north train that derailed in the bronx last year, four people were killed and 70 others injured in the disaster. investigators say the engineer suffered from an undiagnosed sneep apnea disorder and a drastic work hour change. diversity is not generally a
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word associated with superhero movies, but on display in marvel's new wave of films, including captain marvel, the studio's first female superhero movie and black panther. announcing the third installment into the "avengers" franchise, will be broken into two films. i hear teen outing. >> nothing says diversity like a blonde-blue eyed female. >> one of the movies is "iron man versus captain america," who wins? >> ironman. >> this unmanned nasa rocket exploded seconds after lift-off tuesday, creating a fireball over the skies of eastern virginia. here it is, take a look.
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>> it's going to be loud. >> oh, my god. >> oh, my god. >> gee! >> people came from all over the east coast to watch it this is not what they wanted to see. the rocket was carrying supplies to the international space station, like $200 million worth. but ha matters is no one was on the rocket. so no one was injured. this morning, investigators are sifting through the wreckage, that's how they'll figure out why this happened. joining us to discuss cnn space analyst miles o'brien and former astronaut and international space station commander leroy chow. so thank you very much for being here. miles, let's start with the obvious -- why did this happen? >> well, we don't know yet. but if you look at what happens about 15 seconds after lift-off, as i think the term that frank culbe culbertson put it with orbital sciences, he says it seems to disassemble. in other words something fell off the rocket. some sort of hard failure of a
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turbo pump or something along those lines is where investigators will begin looking. and after that happens you'll notice that the rocket plume changes color and then shortly thereafter things go very badly. >> leroy chow, help me understand this, range safety was initiated at about 20 seconds. observed something wrong at 10 to 12 seconds, so sent signal to destruct the rocket, the launch rocket. that was from the press conference. what does that mean? >> every rocket has a range safety package on it. which is basically a series of charges that will basically terminate the flight and it will blow up the rocket, in case the rocket veers off-course and starts heading for a populated area, then the range folks can destroy it before it can get somewhere like that and cause
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damage. but i agree with miles, it looks like something, something happened at the aft-end of the vehicle. the range safety signal may have been sent. but it probably was sent after the fact. i mean looked to me from the video like the rocket was already coming apart by the time the signal was sent. >> i'm trying to get straight on what happened. miles, does it mean that this rocket just self-destructed? or does it mean that someone noticed that something was going wrong and they sent the signal for it to self-destruct? >> well i think it's a little bit of both. it probably would have self-destructed on its own. the procedure, though, is when things go horribly wrong, you push the red button and you hit the self-destruct button. because as leroy points out, a rocket that has asymmetrical thrust or thrust that you don't expect or can't control can be a very dangerous thing indeed. you had about a 1400 square-mile exclusion zone around the launch
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pad. you certainly don't want it veering off toward the west into populated areas. that's why they do this with an abundance of caution. >> i'm hearing that this is the same type of technology that the space shuttle had. help us to understand this. >> every vehicle that launches out of the u.s. is going to have a range safety package on it, including the space shuttle. which was quite controversial at the time. you saw it after the challenger accident, the range safety was initiated on the solid rocket boosters. can you see where the size of those boosters were opened up after the fact. but yeah, even the space shuttle had a range safety package on it. >> it would be controversial especially if there were people on board, but we have to remember, a rocket becomes a missile if it goes off-course, especially with these types of fuel systems it has on it. leroy, what does this mean -- classified crypto equipment on board, what is that? >> that's a new one for me. my best guess on it would be
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some kind of a communication scrambler for telemetry, but i don't know. you know, the space station as you know is a civil space station, there's no military activity going on board the station so it wouldn't be some kind of a defense or a military kind of a thing that was being sent to the station. >> miles, i heard you clearing your throat, which is the international media signal for i know the answer to this. so when we hear classified crypto equipment, it doesn't mean spy stuff or anything like that? that's the conspiracy theory. they had to destroy it because they had the secret stuff on. >> please don't take us to the grassy knoll on this one right now, chris. this is most likely and i don't know for certain, but i think leroy is correct. you have -- rockets don't carry black boxes, they send telemetry down. black boxes are on the ground. mission control watches all the time and the communication back and forth between the rocket and
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the ground is tremendous. if you could hack into that that would be a very bad thing. so you would want to encrypt that communication. so i think they want to find that box because it is probably a sensitive box. but the space station is not spying on anybody. >> and it is a huge international effort. you have over a dozen countries involved. the u.s. and russia take the lead. this is about as cooperative as these types of high-end missions have ever gotten. so gentlemen, thank you very much for the perspective. obviously as we learn more about why this happened, we can then better have the discussion about what it means for the privatization of space missions in the u.s. leroy chiao and miles o'brien, always a pleasure, thank you. sports time, big, big story. so many had the giants sealing it up in historic fashion. >> not in my household. >> however -- now winner take all, game seven, andy scholes is here, and he's got the "bleacher report." who saw this coming? but now it's as big a moment you
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get in the world series. >> you play 162 games in the regular season. the wild card, division series, championship series, it comes down to one game tonight. the royals kept their world series dreams alive in game six, by absolutely crushing the giants. the bats just exploded in the second inning, they scored seven runs, the giants -- didn't know what hit them. royals shut out san francisco 10-0. a grat stat for you, since 1980, the royals are the ninth home team to win game six when down 3-2 in the world series. all of the previous eight have gone on to win game seven. >> how many of them? >> every single one. >> that hurts. >> history is on the royals side. first pitch for a little after 8:00 p.m. eastern tonight. college football playoff committee releasing their first-ever poll, no surprise who is on top, the mississippi state bulldogs come in number one the inaugural rankings, followed by defending champs florida state,
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auburn, ole miss, three of the four top teams coming from the s.e.c. west. just incredible. one division dominating the rankings. the nba season tipping off with the crew from inside the nba doing their show live from times square, ernie, kenny, shaq and charles having a grand old time with all the fans in new york city. on the court, world champion san antonio spurs receiving their brand new shiny diamond championship rings before their game with the mavs, a good night all around. tony parker hit a late three to give the spurs the win on the opening night. in the night cap, kobe bryant made his return to action, gets into it with his old friend, dwight howard under the basket. gets a little chippy. kobe mouths, try me and dwight responds -- come on, man. you know me. rockets ended up beating the lakers, 108-90. a tough night all-around in l.a., their stud rookie, julius
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randall broke his leg in the fourth quarter. very first game in the nba. i hate to say it, michaela, it will be a rough season. >> even with the black mamba, he looked good. >> 19 points. not bad. >> you forget, clipper fan. >> you're a clipper fan? you switched? >> no, no. back up. >> the only positive sports fan, she's the universal donor. >> going back on the tape. >> no. she's wearing royal blue. don't be talking about los angeles. >> i believe her, not fair-weather fan. i believe this. the "bleacher report" website go there for information about gordie howe, we have information that he suffered a stroke. we know everybody cares about him, wishes him well. give as you flash of the sox. >> in honor of king james going home, i'm rocking the cavaliers sock on the ample calf. >> andy, thank you for that.
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eight people with ebola have now been cured in the united states. does this mean doctors have the upper hand on the deadly virus? or are we still facing the risk of a domestic outbreak? a leading infectious disease specialist is here with a status report on ebola.
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we are down to one patient being treated for ebola currently in the united states. a doctor here in new york. so let's bring in from baltimore, maryland, dr. amesh adalja, a representative of the infectious disease society of america. three big points to cover this morning, doctor, that will bring us up to date. one, we are down to one patient, okay? that means we've had great success in treating patients here in the u.s. with ebola. specifically at emory. they have successfully treated four patients. have we learned something about how to combat this virus? or is it just reaffirming what we already knew? >> we hadn't really treated ebola patients in sophisticated intensive care unit settings. with the patients at emory and nebraska and nih, giving fluids to replace fluids lost during nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, as
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well as electrolytes balanced can make the difference between life or death and this is something we learned during this outbreak. >> it's so damn sad it shows that the simplest care could stop so many deaths in west africa. not about a magic drug or a magic cure, sophisticated treatment. having people on the ground with the infrastructure to do the right thing. how soon until we see efforts in liberia that are ongoing making a difference? >> i think it's going to be months before we actually get, catch up with this virus. it had a three-month head start before we knew what was going on in guinea. it's taking a while to get the eebl treatment units built. we have a lot of infrastructure problems there. until units are available where people can be cared for in a safe manner, we're still going to see new cases. but it's essential to try 0 get ahead of the virus, it will continue to put the world at risk until we stop it at its source. >> the major push-back is you're over-hyping this, ebola cases
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have been going on for decades, nothing is different now, you just seem to care. that's not true. why? >> this outbreak occurred in west africa, which never had an ebola case before. three months late to figure it out and it spread across three countries very quickly. and then had imported cases into nigeria and senegal. what we know is these countries have very little infrastructure, it's likely outany outside help this would become a chronic problem for them like other diseases. we don't want that to happen. because ebola is such a disruptive force in these countries that are on the precipice of collapse. we'll, hospitals in the united states will continue to have to be on the alert nor imported cases, keep everybody on high alert. we need to get to the source of this outbreak and actually stop it. to remove all risk. >> in other words, if you do not stop it there. you will have it here. the question is how often and how many. last point -- the dirty word for
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you, amesh -- quarantine. we're now seeing the pentagon is doing 21, they're calling mandatory monitoring, whatever they want to call it it's a quarantine. we're seeing it in different states this kid in connecticut who doesn't have it, better to be safe than sorry, how do you square that with your feelings about science? >> it doesn't make sense based on the transmission dynamics of this virus and i know that the pentagon's policy is under review by second hagel so that may change. people can't transmit ebola unless they have symptoms. what a lot of professional societies favor is to actively monitor these people, 0 so they're on the radar of local and public health and base it on the risk. did someone get a needle stick? was someone treating parkts without personal protective equipment? right now the blanket quarantine doesn't make any gradations and restricts people's movements.
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>> why is it not worth being safe rather than sorry. it's just 21 days. if can you do it at home and still get paid, it's not the worst thing, is it? >> i think it's not, i think it is a bad thing. because it doesn't, it doesn't actually reflect the science there. if there's no need to do the quarantine because of the transmission of the virus, then why do it? it adds to the panic and makes people have this misperception of threat with ebola. >> okay. dr. amesh adalja, always appreciate the perspective, thank you for helping us out on the big points this morning. >> thank you. alisyn? terrorism, economy, ebola. many issues on the minds of voters six days before elections. according to a new poll, there's one issue that matters most it could just decide the key races. fight back with relief so smooth...'s fast. tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue ...and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum, tum tum tum... smoothies! only from tums.
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we have brand new cnn/occ polls released this hour hot off the presses, two-thirds of the american public feel that the economy is still doing poorly. you can see on your screen. 62%. but more people are optimistic about the future. and the economy is the number one issue for voters. so what does that mean for the mid-term elections? let's ask our guests john avalon and margaret hoover. great to have you guys. so that's a bit of a confusing
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mixed message, we feel that the economy is doing poorly, but americans are optimist thak next year, the economy will be doing well. does that work for democrats and incumbents or not work for incumbents? >> this is a tough year for democrats and incumbents. but it shows the kind of state of the economy being influx. it shows the gap between wall street and main street. it shows that people believe things will get better it makes it harder to go into the booth with a sense of absolute anger against incumbents. it's a sign of the times. the economy is working for some, but main street is still struggling. >> the part inside me says they think it's going to get better because they know republicans are going to have the senate. >> how does it get better if the republicans get the senate. let's say they win. >> we pass serious tax legislation that's going to simplify the tax code. that might have helped us get out of the recession a lot sooner than it did pass
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legislation to streamline energy renaissance where the federal government is in the way. that's been the number one provider of jobs in industry across the country. >> and the president will go along with those things? >> if the republicans win the senate, the pez has an opportunity to either have a lame duck last two years, or pass some legislation that could be part of his legacy because he has passed exactly nothing. in the last six years. >> why? >> except for the affordable care act, which is enormously unpopular. >> why has he passed nothing? your strategy has been don't le let him pass anything. >> the last i checked, the senate is run by the democrats. >> not enough leverage. let's say the republicans win, you lose, however it's not a big-enough margin to swing things past filibuster, so what happens. >> the filibuster-proof margin is still there. i like the list. >> i got more.
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>> there's a question whether that's gear ed towards strengthening the middle class, what's the policy agenda behind it. i would like to think if the republicans win the senate and the house, they would find a way to work with the presidents. but the republicans will admit they've got a crazy caucus and the sanity caucus. the will they support measures that work with the president or will the prospect be political kryptonite to them. >> back to the economy, janet yellen, the chair of the federal reserve says majority of americans are experiencing stagnant living conditions. so regardless of what the numbers say, the truth is most americans, wages aren't going up. they haven't been. there's no sign that they're going to any time soon. the fed continues to print money. the economy has the very lackluster recovery and people know that and they're still feeling that. >> but there's a burden of proof when it comes to policy many what's the republican plan for
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dealing with inequality and the middle class? really. bumper sticker works, but where's the actionable agenda. >> tax simplification would be an enormous burden off the economy. >> i don't think it's inefficient. >> i feel like i'm repeating myself. do you not listen to what i say? >> i hear you. >> simplification frankly. the affordable health care act is a huge burden for businesses. >> i'm all for tax simplification. >> money is tight for candidates. democratic candidates. they're having a hard time fundraising. steve israel, the head of the fundraising arm for the dccc, he put out a statement, he said i'm not going to sugarcoat it it's a tough climate and it's getting tougher. it's the worst climate since 2010, but it's not as bad as 2010. some candidates are feeling
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pinched for money six days out. >> strategic panic, democrat emails have been trying to shake the money tree any way they can get it. candidates are jittery, consultants are jittery. >> in the reality is in a six-year presidential term. you do face if you're in the president's party, significant headwinds, average loss is 30 seats in the house and eight in the senate. so yeah i'm not surprised that democrats are getting nervous. i'm not surprised that the whole political money class is trying to get every last bit of cash they can. >> what i'm seeing, watching a lot of these congressional races pretty closely. the dccc is taking money out of races that were going to be close seats that they were defending. d plus two seats, specifically in suburban areas around illinois, new york. seats they thought were going to be easier to defend. think about what that does to a republican congress. if you have more republicans picking up seats that were d plus two seats, that means john
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boehner gets more moderate republicans in his caucus. which may give him some leverage in terms of standing up to the tea party kind of caucus. it might mean a house of representatives is a little bit less anti- not anti-the president, but boehner is able to sort of step out on some of the policy issues that aren't considered as crazy radical as the tea party caucus. >> interesting. i like the glass half full. we could see an immigration vote this is actually the reform republican agenda taking back the house of representatives and that's what i fully support. if we could see people like bob dole, who lost his seat in 2012. the guy had has mark kirk's seat. >> don't give it all away. we could have the moderate republican majority. >> margaret hoover and john avalon, great to see you. the mid terms are one of the stories we're following for you. a lot of news, let's get to it. three, two, one --
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>> the antares rocket stalled, fell backward and exploded. >> something went wrong and we will find out what that is. dramatic new security procedures that are about to begin at u.s. government buildings. >> this is a precaution. >> it's simply being safe rather than sorry. nurse amber vinson is heading home to texas. >> i'm so grateful to be well. president obama taking a not so veiled shot at christie's ebola quarantine plan. >> we don't just react based on our fears. we react based on facts. good morning, welcome back to "new day," so much to talk about. i'm alisyn camerota alongside chris cuomo. we begin the hour with a failure to launch. literally. >> oh god! oh god! oh god! >> you can hear the bystanders saying oh god oh god. it was so unexpected. an unmanned rocket we're happy
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to report, exploding seconds after lift-off tuesday night. nasa and the rocket's builder, called orbital sciences are trying to determine this morning what caused this disaster. >> it was carrying a $200 million payload. so it's going to raise new questions about privatizing space. especially with the international space station is involved. let's bring in cnn's tom foreman, he's been following developments live in our washington bureau. what have we learned? >> we know this is going to be a very busy morning out there. because they haven't learned much yet. last night they were looking at this video and the orbital sciences engineers were saying basically what they could see is somehow the bottom of the rocket starts disassembling during the takeoff there. that could be a lot of things, it could be a structural failure that the point. it could mean the explosion at the bottom was blowing it apart or a combination. what they have to do and what they are doing at this hour is spreading out through the marshes on the virginia coast, trying to find every scrap of this rocket they can.
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so they can put it back together, and figure out where the blast began. >> and we have lift-off. >> the first stage was just seconds into a four-minute burn when the antares rocket stalled, fell backward and exploded. nearly three-quarters of a million pounds of thrust went haywire and spectator across the bay say the blast shook the ground even there. >> we felt the concussion, it was a huge blast, it hit us and it sounded like a sonic boom. >> it also clearly shook virginia-based orbital sciences, the private contractor that built the rocket under a nearly $2 billion contract with nasa, now needs answers. >> the investigation will include evaluating the debris that we will find around the launch pad. if you find anything that washes ashore in the local area or came
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down in on your farm, definitely do not touch it. >> no one was hurt in the explosion, but gone in a flash -- 1600 pounds of science experiments on everything from meteors to human blood flow. more than 1600 pounds of hardware, computers, space walk equipment and 1400 pounds of food for the iss crew. that does not create an instant emergency, but it will put extra pressure on upcoming missions to reestablish the supply chain to those astronauts in orbit. and the explosion could create political pressure, too. in the continuing debate over how much space travel can or should be put into the hands of private companies. now certainly an explosion like this could have happened with a nasa-built rocket. but companies like orbital sciences and space-x, the private companies now doing the contracts for the government, chris, you're absolutely right -- they're very aware of the pressure that an incident like this puts upon their industry. because there's so many people who still have questions and
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will continue to have questions about how much we can privatize space. chris? >> and obviously, tom, money is a concern. but safety much more so, especially when we're dealing with manned missions, they have to figure 0 ut what happened here. wooe following breaking news on security at home. why is security being stepped up at thousands of key federal buildings across the nation? the action follows concern after the lone wolf attack up in canada. the chatter about that had been going on for weeks. you remember this incident. it was just last week. crazy man gets a weapon, kills a soldier. rushes parliament hill in ottawa and luckily was stopped by the sergeant of arms. now homeland security secretary jeh johnson calls for a precautionary measure. due to heightened terror threats around the globe. was it about the globe or about here at home? what do we really know. let's continue the conversation with bill gavin fokter director
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of the new york's fbi bureau. and let's bring in clark kent irvin, former inspector-general of the office of homeland security. it's not that i don't like bill, it's not that his ifb is not working so clark let me stay with you. what's your immediate reaction to this? do we have specific information about an ongoing threat here at home? or is this just precautionary? >> well, my bet on this chris is i know secretary johnson. he's very sober, very reflective, very deliberate and analytical. my sense is while there might not be and probably isn't specific intelligence indicating that this particular build something going to be hit on this particular day in this particular way. that there has been in the last week, since the canadian incidents, an increase in chatter. web postings, well discussions. intercepted telephone conversations, indicating that these government buildings, here in washington, around the country, probably are in terrorists' crosshairs.
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>> it sounds good, we're going to increase security. how? how do you increase it in. >> people don't focus on this until something like this happens. literally every year there are reports, reports by my former office, the office of the inspector general about the agency within the department of homeland security, the federal protective service that oversees federal buildings, white house, capitol, dod, they have their own police forces and the white house famously has been breached recently. most federal buildings are guarded by the federal protective service there are about 950 law enforcement officers full time. they oversee about 15,000 contract guards, i was among those four years ago calling for looking at federalizing the guard force, because of the importance of security at these buildings. >> i read your testimony. it was very compelling. and let me direct the question that you raised to bill gavin. it's good to have you, sorry about the communication problem, federalizing or reorganizing how
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we keep ourselves secure in different buildings. one of the problems we saw up in ottawa and hopefully it will be easily rectified. lots of different agencies involved doing different things. not really coordinated. do we have that problem here as well, bill gavin? >> i think there's more of a universality of the way things are happening now. but what's going to happen with the increased security awareness, they'll change the parameters of the concentric rings of security at a lot of buildings. if people walked into a building and then had security check, perhaps they'll move that checkpoint outside the building or closer to the door and then check it again the second time. there will be multiple layers of security. >> why make this public? >> well i think it's probably something that's, that's necessary in order to have people understand why they're being inconvenienced in quotation marks, of course before they come into any
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federal building. >> if you think about it, clark, we seem to be increasingly with the one-off attacks, forget about organized wars going on elsewhere. we seem to be dealing with the deranged. and everything that happens is an encouraging fact tore a feeble mind. so do you think that we need to have a different approach in the u.s. to how we give advanced warning of what we're worried about? >> well, you know it's very difficult issue, chris, famously in the years after 9/11, after the creation of the department of homeland security. we had a color-coded alert system. it was unclear to the public, what was expected of them. i think the approach that the department is taking now makes a lot of sense. that is, to calibrate it, to say we're increasing this with regard to specific targets, namely federal buildings. no doubt because there's specific intelligence indicating concern about them. the measures are going to be calibrated. they're going to be increased or decreased at different buildings, depending on the
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circumstances, they're going to be constantly assessed and re-evaluated. that's wait to strike the balance between security and liberty. i think the secretary has it exactly right here. >> and hopefully it winds up being more than enough to keep us safe going forward. clark kent irvin, thank you very much for being on, bill gavin, thank you for being on as well. we'll have you both back soon, i'm sure. a lot of news this morning, let's get you the headlines from mick. here we go with the headlines, the father of one of three denver girls who attempted to fly to syria to join isis says his daughter was confused and clueless. about what her role would be if she met up with the terrorists. he tells the associated press, his daughter and her friends are just stupid little girls, those are his words. he'd like to know who recruited them online. you'll recall the girls were stopped by the fbi in germany earlier this month and then returned home. the manhunt for an alleged child rapist is over. this man, gregory lewis was
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arrested in upstate new york after he crashed his car into a river. lewis had been on the run since september when allegedly cut off his ankle monitor and fled massachusetts. following his arraignment. authorities believe he committed more crimes while he was on the lam. including sexual assault, kidnapping and robbery. a possible answer in the kim jong-un mystery. south korean intelligence told u.s. lawmakers that the north's enigmatic lead her a cyst removed from his left ankle. he was shown hobbling and using a cane to get around. the cyst could have been painful for him to stand and walk around. european doctors reportedly performed the procedure. britney maynard, who is terminally ill has checked off the final item on her bucket list, a visit to the grand canyon. you'll likely recall, britney has brain cancer, she publicly revealed she plans to take her own life in fact maynard and her
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family relocated from california to oregon, one of the five states where death with dignity is authorized. she set a death date for november 1st. but said she may change her mind at any time. so poignant. seeing those pictures. and if you read online, her reports and her blog that she report. it was difficult, she has these reminders all the time of the battle that she's going through. even though it was a beautiful trip there terrible headaches, you know, paralyzed, just -- >> the negative part of her making it public was there is of course this wave of you know, backlash of people who aren't thinking it through from her perspective. which is often the case. but it really does raise an issue that is a growing problem for us in this country. >> very well likely challenges your own beliefs. >> because she's younger. >> feel free to let us know what you think. a dallas nurse is now ebola free and out of the hospital. president obama says the u.s. must support health care workers
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who he says are doing god's work in west africa. we will also talk to a yale student who is currently quarantined despite testing negative for ebola. s
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not want to discourage anyone from joining the effort. but that's not slowing the pentagon's support down for mandatory 21-day quarantines of all military personnel returning to the u.s. from the ebola zone. now defense secretary chuck hagel is reviewing that. he could announce the new poll or maybe a reformed policy as early as today. a lot to figure out, let's bring in poppy harlow with the latest. >> i know you guys are going to discuss that a lot this hour. very good news to elyou, there's only one confirmed case of ebola in the united states. this after that nurse, amber
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vinson, was released from the hospital ebola-free yesterday. a lot of people lauding her as a hero for treating thomas eric duncan. i can say she wants people not to stop focusing on west africa. >> i'm so grateful to be well. >> praising her doctors at emory university hospital in atlanta, texas nurse amber vinson appeared before reporters tuesday, ebola-free. >> while this is a day for celebration and gratitude, i ask that we not lose focus on the thousands of families who continue to labor under the burden of this disease in west africa. >> vinson contracted the virus while caring for deceased liberian patient, thomas eric duncan. at a dallas hospital. she was flown back to her home state tuesday night. backing the cdc's latest ebola risk guidelines for returning aid workers, president obama indirectly criticized mandatory state quarantines. >> we're going to have new monitoring and movement guidance that is sensible, based in
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science. america and the end is not defined by fear. >> currently eight of the nine patients treated for ebola in the u.s. have recovered. doctors at emory say they're learning more about treating patients with fatal symptoms of the disease. >> i think we have changed the algorithm for how aggressive we are going to be willing to be in caring for patients with ebola virus disease. >> still, officials are certain the best way to fight ebola is to control the outbreak in west africa. >> that's the agenda for about 1,000 u.s. troops deployed to the region. building clinics and helping local officials contain ebola at its source. u.s. ambassador to the united nations samantha powers also in liberia, demonstrating u.s. support to combatting the virus by visiting the three west african nations hardest hit. >> you know, alisyn and sanjay, i know you're going to be discussing this. it's so important to focus on
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the 4900-plus lives that have been lost to ebola in west africa. but hearing yesterday that the doctors have learned that they can take these much more aggressive treatment tactics in their work is very encouraging news. eight of nine cases in the united states have been, have been cured. and it is astonishing what they've learned in those cases. >> those are such success stories, poppy, thanks for that joining us to discuss more is ryan bicyclo, a doctoral candidate at yale and he's under mandatory quarantine in connecticut. despite testing negative for ebola and dr. sanjay gupta is here, our cnn chief medical correspondent. ryan, i want to start with your story. you're coming to us, via quarantine, because about almost 21 days ago you returned from liberia. you were there helping them set up their new tracing and contact system for anyone who may have come into contact with the virus. at the time did you have any
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contact with any ebola patients? >> no. i was just working on databases and computers and all of that. >> so, when you came back to the u.s. -- did you experience any symptoms of ebola? >> the week after i got back i did have a low-grade fever and some diarrhea. so i reported that to the physician at yale health that i was working with. and so i did go to the hospital to get a test to confirm that i did not have it. and the test did come back negative, two tests came back negative. >> have you been testing every day since then? >> i've been checking my temperature twice a day, yeah. >> are you symptom-free now? >> yes. >> was there a moment where you feared that you might have come back with ebola? >> i never serious, strong feeling. because you know, i studied it
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some. i know that it really is transmitted by very sick and deceased people and their direct contact with their body fluids, i knew i had no contacts like that and i didn't feel very sick, you know i talked to a couple people who had, had ebola and recovered or knew people who got ebola and they say when you get it, you know you feel very sick. >> you know it. when you have ebola, you know it. so your symptoms have now cleared. you have have been testing negative. yet you have been in quarantine now for 11 days. do you understand why you are quarantined? >> no. i don't understand. there's just no scientific justification to keep myself or others like me in quarantine. >> okay. sanjay, is there any justification, he did have some
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symptoms. >> his symptoms sounded like a low-grade fever. 100.2. that doesn't meet the citia he didn't have contact with people who are sick from ebola. he wouldn't have been at risk for that reason. so even if he would have had some contact, unless he's sick himself. he's not going to be transmitting the virus from a scientific basis, there's no motivation for a quarantine here. >> we've heard from public officials, they are using an - excess of caution, this makes people nervous when somebody returns from west africa and they have fever and diarrhea and they're out in the general public. they should be in quarantine for 21 days is what politicians are telling us. >> doctors are conservative and operate under a principle of abundance of caution, i'm a doctor, i do the same thing. it's not a zero-sum gain. it's not an abundance of caution, no harm, no foul, maybe some benefit. the problem is that ryan and
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others may be less likely to go back to west africa, less likely to do this sort of work. i know the doctors without borders, they go for two to three weeks at a a time. now you're doubling that time period. because three weeks of quarantine when they come back. so it is a significant thing. and ryan is doing contact tracing work out there. they're talking about 10,000 case as week possibly by the end of the year. that could go up even more if you don't have resources to take care of these people. >> what's your life like sitting in the room where we see you? >> well, i try to keep busy and my work keep in touch with friends, keep a routine and do some exercise. i woke up a little earlier than usual today. but i've been trying to keep to a routine. if you focus on what's happening. the walls close in quickly. >> we've heard that. and do you feel that the punishment is draconian and as sanjay has just suggested, does this make you more reluctant to ever return and do the work you
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were doing in liberia? >> so, yes. and not just for my own personal sake. but it's a lot harder to take off work and to be away from other relationships and the rest of your life for six weeks, versus three weeks. >> what is your plan now, ryan? when do state authorities say that you are able to leave your quarantine? >> i'm supposed to be able to get out tomorrow. and so. i'm going to hug my girlfriend, and i think go out with friends on that night and all of that. and enjoy, i think this weekend we're going to see some of the leaves changing. >> that's great. i bet you're going to have a big party. that's really great that you're finally going to be free. he's one of eight people in quarantine in connecticut right now. >> we, we are seeing this quite a bit. we may see this more and more, it's one of those remarkable
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situations. i think we'll look back at this historically and say, we kind of knew the science, we did understand the science. it isn't that we didn't understand it it's the social fear and the abundance of caution gets thrown around a lot. i get it. but the problem is there are consequences, prices to pay for it. >> ryan, great to see you, give your girlfriend a big kiss tomorrow and thanks for taking time for us. >> thank you. let's go over to chris. here's a question on the minds of many -- where is john king? well here's the answer, he's on the campaign trail this week, he's taking "inside politics" to some of the hottest senate races. this morning he's in the bluegrass state of kentucky, with you mitch mcconnell and allison grimes are fighting to the finish. he has a lot of insight for you. about 55. where you headed at such an appropriate speed? across the country to enhance the nation's most reliable 4g lte network. how's it working for ya? better than ever. how'd you do it?
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good to have you back with us on "new day." it could be weeks or even months before nasa and its space contractor determine what exactly went wrong when an unmanned rocket exploded. >> oh god, oh god! >> that happened just seconds after launch tuesday night in virginia. the rocket was carrying some 5,000 pounds of supplies and experiments to the international space station. more than six months after the horrific ferry sinking in south korea, another victim's body has been found among the wreckage, officials say the body was in a woman's bathroom in the center of the boat.
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the underwater search has been going on since the ferry sank in april. nearly 300 people died, nine remain missing. the captain and three crew members are charged with murder. prosecutors say they didn't do enough to save the passengers. a case of ebola bullying unfolding in the bronx. education officials in new york are confirming that a group of middle school students at i.s. 318 attacked two brothers who recently returned from senegal. during the beatings, yelled "ebola" at their victims. the father of the two boys say classmates refused to play with his sons during gym class and tells cnn he is determined to find a new school for his children. if you're like me and probably the rest of the world, you're a fan of amy poehler and tina fey, you'll be sad to learn that the golden globes will be their swan song. third straight year that tina and amy hosted the globes. poehler says they realized after
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three years as hosts, there's really nowhere to go but down. >> i like that, going out on top. >> but we, i just love them, i think everything they do is so fun and good. >> they're fun to watch. >> boo, that's depressing. we need a return to good news, here it is, let's get to "inside politics" on "new day," with john king, the man, the myth, the world traveler. good to have you, my friend. >> not going to ask me to replace tina and amy on the golden globes. >> an obvious choice, john, charming and accessible. >> look great in an evening gown. >> but not that funny. >> what's going on, john, wiher are you? >> i'm in beautiful louisville, kentucky this morning, spent the day driving across the state of kentucky. logging about 350 miles this is one of the marquee senate races in country. mitch mcconnell has been in the senate for 30-plus years. if the republicans get what they think they will get next
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tuesday, alisyn and chris, a net game of at least six senate seats, mitch mcconnell is in line to be the senate majority leader. but democrats pulled their money out and then rushed money back in. we wanted to get a sense on the ground we drove across the state. what's interesting this is a race fuelled by negative impressions. mitch mcconnell is running against allison grimes saying she would be a vote for barack obama. the president carried four counties in kentucky last time. if there's any state where you should have an anti-obama sentiment, it's here in the state of kentucky and yet she is running against anti-washington, saying mitch mcconnell is the poster child for everything you don't like about washington. so partisan and polarize. anti-obama sentiment, anti-washington, on a collision course, here's what we found. allison grimes has a chance. democrats are excited about the race because mitch mcconnell has been their nemesis for long time. they don't think they've had this kind of a chance before.
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we went to the maker's mark distille distillery. you meet a fabulous woman named cindy anderson and get discouraged. she said she'll vote in local and county elections, she says sees not go to vote for washington because washington doesn't matter in coal country we meet a guy who is 70 years old, the vice chairman of the ohio county republican party. he says for the first time in his life, he doesn't know if mitch mcconnell is going to win. he says it's that close. he thinks some local county races may bring democrats out to the polls and help allison grimes, even in a place where republicans do well. and among republicans, there's no great, i can't wait to send mitch mcconnell back to washington. the republicans you meet say i'm a republican, i feel an obligation to vote and i'm worried about president obama and she's too liberal. there's not a great deal of enthusiasm for either candidate. it's the anti-sentiment. anti-obama or anti-mcconnell. >> even after the hound dog
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commercials with mcconnell didn't end it? not yet? >> trying to be a little funny at the end. i was watching tv last night. there's a lot of negative ads, not just funny ads. >> it is about the balance of what they thought was going to be happen. take us to alaska, because that's a place where the gop thought they had one type of incumbent. >> this is where you're seeing last-minute jitters everywhere. alaska is a tough state. you've got fair banks and you've got to go out into the rural areas. so dan sullivan is the republican candidate running against the democratic incumbent, mark begich. they need a net gain of six seats, alaska has been at the top of the list since the beginning of the year. dan sullivan has been ahead narrowly. but now mitt romney and ted cruz are going to alaska in the final week. why? because republicans have a case of the jitters. they still think they're going to win this race, but this is what's happening across the
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country. across kentucky i'm making a phone calls, sending a ton of emails to people in different states, from democrats and republicans, you get people saying the same thing, we think we're okay, but, we will have some new polling in the morning. when you see things like that big-name surrogates like cruz and romney going all the way to alaska, it helps you how tense or tight the eight or ten top races are in the final days. >> places like oklahoma, colorado, hard to poll. >> let's talk about kansas. what's happening there? >> well, this is another great race, remember you've got a republican pat robertson incumbent on the ballot. the fact that republicans have to worry about a ruby red state like kansas tells you everything. it's the independent greg orman, running against washington. republicans think they stabilized this race, but even here they bring in big-name surrogates at of the last minute.
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romney, bob dole and rand paul out there. another big name trying to convince libertarian and independent-minded republicans. rand paul is an interesting one. if you gave him truth serum, pat roberts is one of those washington guys he doesn't like that much. but rand paul he wants to essentially tell the republican establishment, hey, look, i'm helping you out here in 2016 don't be so doubtful about me. maybe you want to help me out in 2016. a lot of the surrogates have short-term interest in 2014. thinking about their personal interests in 2016. >> we should give all politicians truth serum that would be an interesting debate. >> there's your million dollar idea. >> wouldn't it be fun. >> where are you going next, my brother? >> we're going to leave here today and i'm going up to flying first to boston, which has a great governor's race, my home state of massachusetts has a couple of congressional races that are competitive. joe biden abouting in to try to
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help a democrat hold a seat north of boston. i'll stop by harvard and talk to students at the institute of politics and then we'll be in new hampshire, we have a tough senate rate, incumbent jean shaheen going against former senator scott brown. have fun in the granite state as well. >> thanks for sharing your tour with us. might come home eventually. >> he is going home, going to massachusetts, that's where he's from. the best way to get out there and show people what's happening on the ground. another story for you this morning, ferguson, missouri, has been living in the shadow of the michael brown shooting for months, no disputing that. now there's a new level to the controversy. about the police chief there. there's word that he's going to resign, maybe he's being fired. he says no, the mayor says no. what's going on? and united against isis, america's new ally on the ground in syria. details in a live report.
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local officials hope his removal will quell tension in that town as residents wait a decision on whether or not the grand jury will bring charges against officer darren willsen in the fatal shooting of michael brown. for more we turn to tom fuentes a cnn law enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director and cnn assistant commentator and legal analyst mel robbins, good morning to you. i'll start with you, tom, we know that the chief in ferguson has been absolutely resolute. saying this is mine and i'm taking ownership of this. talking about what has happened in ferguson and the michael brown case. there's been backlash, we know there's been pressure. look at the tweet, the ferguson pd issued. the chief says he has not resigned, he has not been told to resign. he has not been fired. if he leaves, it will be his
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choice alone. what's going on here? our sources say he's out. >> at the end of the day it will not be his choice alone. and i think he probably will be out at the end. one of the difficult things for him has been even what he's done himself. he's taken ownership for every problem that's resulted since the time of the shooting. even items he couldn't own. for example, one thing he could take ownership of is that he didn't brief the public from the first day of the shooting from the first hours, to be out there and explaining to the people what was going on and why it was going on. particularly in the beginning, the body of michael brown was lying on the street for four hours because of missouri law. he had no control over that. once he was pronounced dead, the mad cal examiner takes control. the local police are not allowed to touch the body or do anything with the body. until the crime scene investigation is over. and at that particular time at
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10 12 noon, the crime scene investigators were 30 miles away at another crime scene. by the time they got there, an hour and a half had elapsed and they had to do their work. jackson had no control over that the militarized look of the police that came, that was the county sheriff's office, he had no control over that. so some of the things he's taken ownership of, he didn't own. >> mel, i'm curious what your thoughts are. you think this move would be wise? will it help? will it make a difference? >> michaela, i agree with absolutely everything that tom just said. secondly, i don't think this is going to make a difference at all. what the folks that are protesting are upset about, is that there hasn't been an indictment. if we think back to the george zimmerman/trayvon martin case, a very similar scenario took place. the shooting occurred in february. and then the chief was asked to step down in april and that did nothing to calm the protests.
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>> a follow-up before i get back to tom. some are saying this smell as little funky. that this might be a way of sort of trying to appease people in the community ahead of no indictment of officer wilson. what do you think? >> i be a shutly agree with that. i think if you look at the case from like a google earth point of view. there's nothing but a pr massage going on. as reported by the new york times, the "washington post," by us, by the st. louis dispach, there have been unprecedented leaks by this grand jury and it tells me we're marching towards no indictment. i think the officials on the ground in ferg son and also at the federal level are starting to worry there will be a powder keg that erupts. i would be shocked at this point if we have actually an indictment. >> we're hearing reports that police have been stocking up on
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riot gear, tear gas, less lethal ammunition, plastic handcuffs, are you concerned that things are going to overheat there? >> they're going to overheat. i agree with mel, whether he's resigned, or is fired, it won't matter at the end of the day if wilson isn't arrested, prosecuted and jailed for shooting michael brown, nothing less will appease anybody. you have members of the community and other leaders saying statements and the press like there will be carnage. there will be violence there will be destruction. and they're saying not just in ferguson, but across the country. in other african-american communities. the police better be planning and they better be stocking up. because they've been told, this is going to happen. >> let's hope there are steps in the right direction. because we know how tense things are there speaking of, there's reports and rumors that perhaps the man tapped to take over
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chief jackson, would be chief belmar, the st. louis police chief. do you think that will help or just sort of a different misstep? >> i think it's a different misstep. i think the biggest misstep here is this grand jury has more holes than a chunk of swiss cheese for crying out loud. you do not have leaks coming out of a grand jury. and in a system where you're supposed to be giving the public confidence in the judicial system because of the leaks, michaela and tom. it's doing the opposite. it's making people feel like not only is this not transparent, but it's actually stacked against anything happening. and what's so scary about this is that everybody should be focused on the truth coming out. and the only thing coming out of the grand jury is a narrative that is supporting officer wilson. and even if it's true at this point, because of how this has been handled, no one is going to be satisfied with the result. not officer wilson. not michael brown's family and
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certainly not the folks that live in ferguson. >> mel robbins, tom fuentes, thank you. we all can say a collective prayer that things remain calm in ferguson and beyond. thank you so much for joining us today. we're hearing that the u.s. is gaining a new ally in its bat toll wipe out isis. this is going to come as a surprise. it's not about men, it's about women. who have been taking on extremists for over a year. we're going to take you to the conflict zone and give you the latest.
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iraqi peshmerga fighters are joining the fight against isis today making their way to syria. the united states has another formaidable ally a small kurdish faction called the ypg and there's something very unique about that. ivan watson is live from erbil, iraq. >> reporter: we traveled across the border into kurdish controlled syria to bring this report. meet america's newest de facto allies on the ground in the fight against isis in syria. ♪ don' be fooled by the pretty song. these women are part of a militia that is isis' most deadly enemy in syria, kurdish fighters from the people's protection unit or ypf.
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they fought isis on the ground in syria for more than a year. only recently they started getting help from the u.s. in the form of air strikes and weapons tropz. surprising turn of events for this secular marxist movement which includes many fighters who have long battled america's nato ally, turkey. an important part is founded on den ger equality. female fighters fight and bleed on the front lines. that stands in sharp contrast to isis, which has been covering women up and hiding them from public life. addressing the crowd a tough kurdish official urges the fighters to protect their people from becoming slaves of isis. she is the co-president of one three kurdish states in northern syria that largely governed themselves for the last three years. the kurds call their region rojeva.
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some of them clearly proud of their experiment in self-rule. but the streets are empty, many in the town who are christian fled and more keep leaving. why? >> they will go out from our country. >> reporter: peter's mother and sister waved good-bye from a 1954 destot. their final destination? germany. the kurds are paying dearly. at this memorial ceremony, mothers and wives of dead fighters and this widow, she says isis killed her husband last year, and mutilated his body. "if i didn't have these children, i myself, would go and fight" she swears. her young son already wears the uniform of a future kurdish fighter. alisyn, the kurds are described as the largest ethnic group that
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doesn't have a country of its own, often fractured by political and linguistic differences. the ypg's defense of this border town of kobani has served as a real unifying force. it's brought together kurds from turkey, from syria, from iraq and unprecedented show of unity against this isis enemy that has even brought in the u.s., which has backed up the ypg kurdish fighters with air strikes and again those weapons drops. alisyn? >> ivan, that is a remarkable story. thank you so much for introducing us to them. what a fighting force, and the contrast to what isis stands for. >> and they've been doing it for a long time. it's dangerous to reach where they are. ivan is always prepared to take that risk and we're going to hear more about them as this conflict goes on. >> incredible. a massive fireball moments after takeoff, look at this.
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-- captions by vitac -- midair explosion, just seconds after liftoff, an unmanned cargo rocket explodes on a mission to resupply the international space station. the big question is, why did this go so wrong and does this catastrophe jeopardize our astronauts up in space. homeland security is beefing up thousands of federal buildings on watch, one week after that shooting spree in canada's parliament building. is the ramped up security just precautionary or is it signs of an eminent threat? one coin at a time. group of modern day robin hooders in trouble with the law for feeding expired parking meters before officers can issue tickets. the legal battle is now before the state supreme court. are they saving the day or breaking the law? >> your "new day" continues right now. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira.
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>> good morning, welcome back to "new day." it is wednesday, october 29th, just about 8:00 in the east. chris cuomo and alisyn camerota here as the country wakes up to news of this. >> man! >> oh, my goodness. that is an unmanned rocket exploding seconds after liftoff in virginia tuesday night, then crashing down onto the launch pad into a ball of flames. the privately built rocket was carrying some 5,000 pounds of supplies and experiments to the -- equipment i should say to the crew on board the international space station. we're following the latest from all angles. tom foreman is live in washington for us. what is the latest? >> the latest is that the officials of this company oral sciences were up looking at the telemetry from this rocket from the moment this happened and pretty much all night, looking
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at electronic signals coming off this rocket about its force, its altitude, its attitude, its speed, the temperature, everything they can to see if there are any signs in the numbers about where things started to go wrong and at this hour, investigators are spreading out to the marshes there in coastal virginia trying to pick up every piece they can to put it back together and solve this mystery. >> and we have liftoff. >> reporter: the first stage was just seconds into a four-minute burn when the antares rock waet stalled, went backward and exploded. the blast shook the ground even where spectators were. >> immediately about five seconds in, you just saw kind of a fireball and it wasn't -- you could tell immediately that something was wrong.
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>> reporter: it also clearly shook virginia based orbital sciences. the private contractor that built the rocket under a nearly $2 billion contract with nasa now needs answers. >> the investigation will include evaluating the debris we will find around the launch pad. if you find anything that washes ashore in the local area or came down on your farm, definitely do not touch it. >> reporter: no one was hurt in the explosion but gone in a flash, 1,600 pounds of science experiments on everything from meteors to human blood flow, more than 1,600 pounds of hardware, computer, spacewalk equipment and 1, 00 pounds of food for the iss crew. that does not create an instant emergency but it will put extra pressure on upcoming missions to reestablish the supply chain to those astronauts in orbit and the explosion could create political pressure, too, in the continuing debate over how much space travel can or should be
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put into the hands of private companies. it's impossible to tell, with all that force, how far all these little pieces went or how long it will take to collect them all, but the investigation to figure out what happened here can certainly take weeks, maybe even months before they have a full answer. orpittal sciences, however, says the antares rocket will not fly again until they know what went wrong. >> joining to us talk more about the catastrophic launch cnn space analyst miles reporter and j.d., a reporter and eyewitness on the scene last night during the launch explosion. j.d., i want to start with you. tell us what you saw last night. >> how are you doing. well, we were in the press area, press reviewing area and we were watching launch, everything was going as expected, they had very good countdown, very clear weather. we watched it actually clear the
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pad and shortly after clearing the pad you could tell it didn't have the thrust that it should have and started dropping back and that's when everything started exploding. the explosion was very loud, very bright. it filled our cameras and, yes. >> what was the reaction when you realized something had gone terribly wrong? >> well, first of all, at the press we just wanted to get the shot, but it came very clear it was really bad. we saw the explosion getting bigger and bigger and the sonic boom hit us, you could feel the boom hit our chests and at that point the safety area people are telling us to get back to the bus, to evacuate the area and we followed directions. we all ran to the bus, left everything there, everything out, and just went back to the bus. but we could see the huge explosion, we could see the fire rain back down onto the pad.
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i know there's damage to the pad, but the safety crews did a really good job getting us out of there. >> how soon after liftoff did the explosion happen? >> within seconds. it was probably about six seconds, you could tell something was wrong. you see it starting to drop back down again, and that's when the first explosion started, and shortly after there was a secondary and thirdary explosions and the entire thing was a huge fireball. >> miles i want to bring you in had -- >> it was within the 6 to 20 seconds it was pretty much over. >> got it. miles, you have covered dozens of these space launches. what do you think happened? >> well, if if you look very carefully what was going on in that rocket plume from these soviet-era engines, these are by the way our 40-year-old engines that were originally built by the soviets to launch their mooncraft which never succeeded. they were purchased by the u.s.
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corporation aerojet, refurbished and what it appears to be is some sort of debris coming off of the lower part of the engine in the plume. after that, you see a change in color in the rocket plume itself, and then things start to go bad very quickly. how much of it was the actual failure of some sort of mechanism on the rocket and how much of it was later the decision to push the button to destroy the craft, the raping safety device. unclear where that begins and ends. >> miles, what about the private space contractors, are they subject to the same safety measures that nasa was, is? >> safety is high but it's a different way of contracting. it's worth putting out that nasa has never built a rocket. they've always used contractors, whether they were boeing or lockheed martin or their predecessor companies. what's happening here with orbital sciences and its competitors in this case spacex out of california, is a different way of doing contracting, so instead of being
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on the factory floor telling them how to attach all the pieces of a car, they're going to hertz and renting the car, so it's a little different relationship between nasa and the contractor, but the safety standards are supposed to be at a fairly high level. having said that, the contractor does have more latitude in how they build the rocket. >> j.d., you are a space enthusiast. have you ever seen anything like this before, have you been present for one of the explosions? >> no, i have not been. so yes, it was very spectacular, dirs hea disheartening but very impressive thing to be part of the history. >> how many spectators were with you? >> we had a good amount of press there, about 30 to 40 people in the area plus the nasa social group which again is another 20 or 30 people and the vip is
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close to that as well. >> what a shock. miles, what impact does this have on the space station and space travel? >> well, first of all, the space station is going to be fine. they have plenty, even if nothing arrived there, they would have enough food until march. while everybody on the east coast was asleep a russian rocket, a frighter called the progress launched successfully and is safely on its way to the international space station to resupply it. spacex is planning a launch in december and february and orbital was on the books for an april launch. that one is probably not going to happen, because not only do they have all these questions surrounding their rocket and maybe their rocket engines, but there was significant damage to the launch pad, and you can only launch this vehicle from one place, wallops island. so this is going to be a big setback for orbital sciences. the big picture though here is, you got to remember getting from 0 to 17,500 miles an hour in
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about eight minutes is not easy. it never will be, and it's not routi routine. every now and then all you have to do is spring a tiny, little leak and you have a really bad day. that's what they're talking about. >> that's a great reminder. you think they're routine because they're calculated down to within a millisecond but they are never routine and as we've seen, sometimes things tragically go wrong. j.t. taylor, thank you for the video you provided us and firsthand experience and miles, always great to talk to you. let's go over to chris. news that the feds are ramping up security at thousands of government buildings. the action coming after the shooting spree in ottawa last week where this gunman opened fire, killed a soldier and stormed parliament hill there before being shot dead. homeland security secretary jay johnson is calling enhanced security a precautionary measure following ongoing terror threats. the question is, what will it mean for you?
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cnn justice correspondent pamela brown is live from washington with the latest. good morning, pamela. >> good morning to you, chris. that's right, jay johnson announced stepped up security measures at government buildings in d.c. and other cities in the u.s. after a series of alarming events that have u.s. authorities on high alert. though we are told by a dhs official there's no new intelligence indicating additional threats to the homeland. this morning, concerns about terror attacks on the homeland continue. the u.s. now beefing up federal security in more than 9,500 government buildings and washington, d.c., and across the country. these photos taken late tuesday reveal a much higher police presence near the white house. the department of homeland security secretary jay johnson says the new security measures are a precautionary step against terrorist organizations. >> it's simply being safe rather than sorry. >> reporter: this move comes in response to continued calls for
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attacks against government officials on u.s. soil from groups like isis. >> there was a specific request made about a month ago by isis, looking now at lone wolves to attack instruments that represent western governments basically. >> reporter: this as the al qaeda offsociety corazon poses eminent threats. the recent attacks across the u.s. border. >> guys, there is a shooter on the loose. >> reporter: last wednesday a 32-year-old muslim convert who officials say had connections with other extremists, killed a canadian soldier and then opened fire inside canada's parliament, and two days before that, canadian authorities say a radicalized islamist struck and killed a canadian soldier with his car. the federal facilities see some
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1.4 million visitors daily, officials not disclosing those locations. and this affects only facilities that are secured by federal protective service, which is a dhs agency. meantime, johnson says state and local governments need to be equally vigilant in guarding against potential lone wolf attacks. let's get a look at your headlines starting now at 12 minutes past the hour. the continuing debate over ebola quarantines, president obama urging a sensible and scientific approach when it comes to enforcing quarantines. that is not support for a mandatory 21 hc-day for militar personnel. chuck hagel could announce a new policy later today. jodi arias' defense team trying to spare her life. prosecutors wrapped up their
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side of the trial tuesday. jurors saw and heard five straight days of evidence, some x-rated. she was convicted of murdering her boyfriend travis alexander. jurors could not decide whether she should be executed or receive life in prison. the ftc is suing at&t over its unlimited data plan saying the plan is misleading and makes customers think they have unlimited data to use when they see their internet connection speeds cut by about 90% after they hit a certain limit. the ftc says it received thousands of complaints about this. at&t for its part says it has always been transparent with customers about its data use policies. former big league baseball slugger jose canseco recovering from a gunshot wound to the hand. he told police he was cleaning his gun when it went off. his fiance says, a finger was left dangling by a string after the incident.
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she tells "l.a. times" doctors will amputate or surgically reattach it. melissa rivers hired an attorney to investigate the death of her mother joan rivers. the 81-year-old died in september are suffering a heart attack during surgery. >> of course she wants answers. i think we all do. >> especially while she's still grieving, this much be such a terrible time. >> one of the things remembered in that situation is that these clinics are a fast-growing aspect of our health care system. people don't go to hospitals for endoscopies or procedures like that and how are they overseen and what do we know about what happened? it's one of the big curiosities. >> here story affects us on many levels. there is lots of news on the ebola front to tell you about, much of it encouraging. only one case of ebola is left in the united states this morning, the second dallas nurse is now ebola free and out of the hospital.
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"today" show she does not plan to stick to quarantine guidelines until her 21-day period is up november 10th. she's once again the face of controversy regarding what to do about those exposed to the virus. >> i don't plan on sticking to the guidelines. i remain appalled by the home quarantine policies that have been forced upon me, even though i am in perfectly good health, and feeling strong and have been this entire time completely symptom-free. >> does she have the right to do that? is she right to do that? tuesday president obama called for a sensible and scientific approach to quarantines but the pentagon decided that that means exactly what the white house poses, a mandatory 21-day quarantine on all military personal returning to the u.s. from the ebola zone. we must make sense of these inconsistencies and one man can do that better than most, dr. sanjay gupta, cnn's chief medical correspondent. the fact at emory they keep
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curing cases very quickly it seems. does that mean we've learned something? >> the doctors made this point i think it's interesting, it's still a small number of people, four patients at emory who have been treated and are doing well, but they have been aggressive at times with the therapy, even things like dialysis, putting people on ventilators. it was thought of even recently dr. frieden, the head of the cdc made this point maybe that's too much. the patients are not likely to survive if they get that sick and could you put health care workers at the greater risks doing those procedures because there's more blood and bodily fluids involved. the doctor from emory says we've taken care of four patients successfully so being aggressive is a good thing. >> it reinforces the tragedy in west africa. not about new science, not about miracle drugs, it's doing what you can and it's not getting done. >> great point. they simply can't do some of the things over there. giving iv fluids, putting an iv in and replacing fluids that get
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lost, getting too dehydrated can cause death. putting an iv is a tough procedure if you're in a remote forested area. here they monitor electrolyte levels and do dialysis. it's a different standard of care. >> you reinforce this point all the time, if you don't want ebola in the united states, you must stop it everywhere else. it's the only way to stop it from being here. >> i sort of say almost like' medical analogy. someone is having a heart attack and left arm pain. you can give them pain medication for the left arm pain that's not taking care of the heart problem. unless you take care of the heart problem you're not going to rid the body of this issue. think of the heart problem as being west africa and everything else is significant symptoms but unless you take care of this, it's not going to solve it. >> now the two interests get smashed together with the quarantine debate.
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if people are going to be isolated when they go abroad and get here. others no big deal, think of the safety of everybody else. let's put on our debate hats. kaci hickox the nurse says i'm not going to follow this? >> first of all she's following the guidelines of the organization that sent her over there, doctors without borders who have more experience doing this, i read the guidelines carefully. they say quarantine is neither recommended nor warranted. so there's no need for her to do anything according to her parent organization. dr. spencer, same organization, no need for quarantine. >> he got sick. >> he got sick and when he started to develop a low grade fever because he was taking his temperature, he called them, they immediately took him and put him into isolation and he is now getting the care he needs. >> are you 100% sure that at the point at which dr. spencer thought he didn't feel well, he was absolutely positively not a threat to anyone else? >> well, look, i think in
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science you want to be careful about speaking in absolutes, but there's a lot of data on this sort of thing. >> but fears, it fuels the fear. >> yeah, sure. if i said look, is there an absolutely zero chance? no. i don't think anyone can say that, but let me give you a couple of examples. mr. duncan we talked about in dallas. he was sick, went to the hospital, got turned away. >> yes. >> was living at home for two, two and a half days with his family and friends. >> very sick at home. >> very sick at home, none of them got sick. they weren't intensively caring for him likely or may not have been exposed. >> all the people on the plane with him. >> all the people on the plane with him. mr. sawyer was a guy who flew from liberia to nigeria. upon landing at the airport in niger ja nigeria he got sick and collapsed. nobody on the plane rides ever got sick. all checked and none of them got sick. it's not easy to catch. can it happen in an unusual case, perhaps.
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quarantining people when they're not sick doesn't make sense. take the temperature f they even have a low grade rise call somebody because that's a precursor to something more significant. >> people putting too much stock in the unknown? >> yes, you can understand it. >> you can understand it but do you enable it? i think the government's been all over the place on this. you have the fed going slow, the pentagon going fast, you got my brother as the governor of new york and chris christie jumping out in front of the feds and they get pulled back. that's going to make people upset. >> it's a really good question, chris. from the politician standpoint, they have responsibilities to their constitch wepts who have fear. there's all the different interests in this. i think the scientists cannot be wavering on this. they can't say i think perhaps this, perhaps that, we'll do this just pausbecause. the scientists have to be clear. it matters because it's different when scientists know and say the right thing suddenly start to transition a bit and
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play politicians. the scientists have to be clear. if the scientists are not clear, i think it throws the whole system into turmoil. i've tried to be clear since the beginning. you're not going to spread this virus until you're sick. it's not a binary thing. as soon as your temperature hits 104, you could potentially become infectious but you're really infectious when you are really sick. it is unlikely the low grade fever guy is infectious. >> there's doubt and doubt creates lack of confidence. >> i was talking about this in the break up until recently a ban on patients, people with hiv/aids coming into the united states. >> until with hen? >> 2010. at the time it was done it was felt necessary. it didn't make sense then, the scientists knew that and it took 20 years to overturn that.
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let science trump politics. facts really do matter here. is there going to be fear? you don't want to dismiss that fear. s they' not right either. the science and the facts can help actually overcome that. >> strong point and alisyn it should be known when sanjay returned from west africa, i did shun them but that was personal, it had nothing to do with my thoughts about exposure. >> you gave me a big hug like you always did. >> i count' pretend not to like him. >> try as he might, sanjay, he can't not love you. >> he tries, let me tell you. >> i know, that's great. thats so much. an update on one of the most heartbreaking stories we covered. the story of the woman who lost her three children and parents in a fire on christmas day three years ago. she's coming forward to talk about her life now, and how she has been able to endure unspeakable grief. ♪ i thought it'd be bigger. ♪
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calling it a hacking but "the washington post" says hackers working for the kremlin are to plam. president owe pa ma calling on americans to keep perspective on ebola saying health care workers on front lines should be applauded and supported when they return to the u.s. not placed under mandatory quarantines. the police chief in ferguson, missouri, could resign as early as next week. thomas jookson, the chief says the reports are not true. the grand jury will decide if a police officer should be charged in michael brown's death. the manhunt for a suspected serial child rapist wanted in connection with cross-country spree is over. massachusetts state police say 26-year-old gregory lewis was arrested in upstate new york tuesday night. kurdish peshmerga fighters are about to enter the city of kobani, according to media reports though, reinforced fellow kurds who are fighting isis. we update the five things to
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know, visit for the latest. guys, over to you. i have a familiar question for you and a new context. what's in your wallet? that's what's really being asked to voters because the economy will be your major motivation. will a newly released cnn/ork poll affect what is happening in the lecks? we'll debate it straight ahead. plus her home went up in flames three years ago on christmas night killing her entire family. how could she overcome or even get past such a tragedy to get on with her life? we will dig deeper on this story.
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new cnn/orc polls released this morning give us insight into voters' motivation a week from now. two-thirds of the american people believe the economy is doing poorly. >> that's bad. >> but people see a light at the end of the tunnel, chris. >> that's good. >> yes. this is your read. >> that's the way politics go. why? the economy is always the most important issue to the voter. politicians know that, which is why they often try to distract from it. the question is, will what we see in our polls affect what happens on election day? our next guest has something to say about this, ana navarro and ms. stephanie cutter, who was deputy campaign manager for president obama's 2012 campaign now us, which is even better. >> good morning. >> good morning, ladies. >> good morning. >> we just showed you that poll that shows majority americans think that the economy is doing poorly at the moment, however, there's another poll that shows
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that 52% do have optimism about next year they think the economy will be doing better, that's up, significant, because just a year ago it was only 40% of respondents who thought that times ahead would be brighter. ana, does that work for incumbents or does that make you want to kick them out? >> look at the polls yesterday, you can see what's really prevailing out there is a pessimistic move. people are frus ray trated, disillusioned. optimism works when it's happening at the moment of election. optimism about next year doesn't work much when the election is next week. lot of voters vote based on frustration and disillusionment right now. >> stephanie cutter, where is the passion among democrats? by all indications you are running scared. you even have your congressional chairman now come forward begging for money. do you like the vibe? >> well, chris, you know, this
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is by any measure a tough year for democrats. most of the battles that we're forging are being fought on republican turf. however, democrats are holding their own. they're running good campaigns, and it really comes down to at this point in the campaign, it comes down to the candidates, and the strength of the campaign, and this is where democrats excel, the ground game, getting their voters out. you know, the story that you're referencing about house democrats seeking more money, for several of those seats seeking money it's democratic challengers of republican incumbents. it's getting enough to push back on the ba rodge of ads run against our candidates and also trying to expand the territory against republican incumbents. >> as you both know, the president has not been on the campaign trail much. many democratic candidates have not wanted him to be with them at different campaign stops but
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he was there yesterday. he was campaigning in wisconsin, and he painted a more rosy picture than either of you are. listen to the president. >> this country has made real progress since the worst economic crisis of our lifetimes. when i came into office, the economy was in freefall. auto industry was on the verge of collapse. but over the past four and a half years, america's businesses have created more than 10 million new jobs. >> ana, the economy has ticked up. does he have a point? >> you know, i'm glad to hear him saying that. somebody's got to toot president obama's horn and it's going to be president obama. democrats seem to be running away from him as far as they can. at some point i think almost the best thing he could do to help democrats is maybe campaign against them. >> look like maybe he's caught the bug there, the republican bug, ana, of constantly being negative. that is my question to you.
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the campaign platform for republicans at every level right now is owe bama is terrible. that is their campaign platform. how does that anything but drive the negativity that we see in all the polls right now. is that really the way you want to gape power? >> chris, i think on both sides its eight same message. i live in miami, florida. there's a very tight congressional race going there, and there's also a tight gchb's race going on in florida, and the barrage of negative ads, i just wish they weren't that effective, because i think it really does paint the mood of the voters. it is negative all the time. >> stephanie, why aren't democrats embracing the good things about the president more? >> well, i think that -- i disagree that, in terms of the things that democrats across the country are campaigning on, increase in the minimum wage, pay equity for women, ensuring women have health care when they need it most. those are the things that the
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president has fought for, and achieved together with many of these congressional democrats. you know, there are a tremendous amount of negative ads out there that this is an election, we're used to this. there's lots of debate about whether or not these negative ads are effective, but democrats are also laying out a forward-looking agen da, and i think that's consistent in the races across the country. republicans in contrast have made it clear that they don't want to put out an agenda until after the election because they're afraid of it being attacked or coming under criticism. so campaigns are always about the future, or at least successful campaigns are always about the future. that's why that economic data is good news. people see that we're on a path, we're moving forward, and now it's down to looking at which candidate has the path that voters want to get on and right now, democrats have offered a way forward and many of these races, republicans are trying to
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nationalize this race and just put obama on the ballot rather than putting out their own ideas. >> republicans are looking good in a lot of races, one step closer to the big day and we'll need analysis every step of the way. thanks to you, stephanie cutter, ana navarro, thank you as well. always good to have you on the show. a story you have to hear, she said she wanted to die many, many times, after losing her three daughters and her parents in a christmas day fire. this woman's incredible resilience and strength can be a lesson to all of us and her story is next. [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman, we've always been at the forefront of advanced electronics. providing technology to get more detail... ♪ detect hidden threats... ♪ see the whole picture... ♪ process critical information, and put it in the hands of our defenders. reaching constantly evolving threats before they reach us.
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introducing the world's first curved ultra high definition television from samsung. three years ago on christmas day, madonna badger's connecticut home was engulfed in a massive fire killing her parents and her three young daughters. on sunday she spoke out to oprah in a moving interview about overcoming unspeakable tragedy. >> in the beginning, did you just want to die? >> yes. >> and did you ask yourself many times why didn't you also die? >> yes. i still have those feelings. i still, this last christmas i had those feelings of i just want to die, and certainly the feeling of why didn't i die, you know? and i've wanted, i wanted to die so many times, you know, just to even just to be with them. >> joining us to talk about this
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is wendy walsh, she's the cnn human behavior expert and psychologist. great to see you this morning. i have always wanted to hear from madonna badger. she's doing a real service coming publicly to speak about this, because i've just wanted to know what the secret is to resilience and her resilience and how she's been able to go on the past three years ago. she even got married this year, moved on with her life. what is the secret to resilience? >> well, i think the secret to resilience is something she shares with many people and that is a biological predisposition to be able to recover, first of all. secondly, she had this great advantage, although she lost all three of her children and parents in one night, i liken it to sandra bullock in "gravity" being shot into space with no connections to anybody or anything. she had the support of great friends. one couple allowed her to move in with them for a year and she
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had resources to get the best psychotherapy and help. she was seeing a psychotherapist every day. >> somehow you are downplaying her strength of character saying she was predisposed genetically to deal with this, and by saying she has access to the best care, you're somehow overlooking that she, herself, had to dig deep into her reserves and maybe all of us could somehow take a page from her. >> yes, i'm not saying that somebody who doesn't have a biological predisposition to being able to rebound won't be able to, but she may have had a better chance at it. she was brave enough to do it sort of cold turkey. at the beginning i think the doctors were prescribing all kinds of psychotropic medications to help with the initial trauma. she says in the interview you can't recover by shooting heroin, drinking alcohol or taking pills, you have to feel
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the feelings and that's the brave work we can all take as a lesson, becoming self-aware of our own feelings and being able to tolerate really awful feelings. >> yes to tolerate the pain, that is the key to what she was talking about in the oprah interview i thought was so powerful. there's no way to circumvent it, no way to cheat the pain. she said that the fastest way is to go right through it. you have to allow yourself to feel the enormity of it and the intensity of it in order to come out the other side of it. the fact the umbilical cord is being cut, she talked about not only the emotional wounds of what happened to her, but the physicality of the loss. listen to what she had to say. >> that mother/child bond, you know, is so huge, and it's like having, you know, nerves, sort of that are i guess called vega nerves but they're emotional, and that mine got cut, and it got cut in three places, and
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then it got cut between me and my mom and me and my dad. >> which is different. >> which is a different thing, of course, but then, you know, just that i was just basically a great big raw nerve. >> so these nerves got severed and left her raw as we can imagine. westboundy, where do people begin when they're feeling that level of pain? >> well, of course they begin by surrounding themselves with people who are trusting and people who care about them. what she's talking about is so fascinating because it illustrates so clearly how our primary relationships are not only paramount to our mental health, they are paramount to our physical health and a toxic relationship doesn't help you in other words. so even if somebody's watching who is in a toxic relationship this might be a time to think it could be hurting your health. she talks about the nerves being cut it's like an amputee, imagine losing a leg and having phantom pain imagine the same thing happening emotionally. the answer of course is to
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surround yourself by people who love you and friends are the family i say we choose. in this case she was well aware of that and chose them. and that's really, and then to sit with your feelings and know that it's okay to cry, it's okay to be angry, and to take every day one step at a time. i know it sounds trite, we say this all the time but physically going through the motions of your day helps create a kind of normalcy to your mind. >> you're so right. she talked about that. she said she realized that thinking about getting better and thinking about getting out of bed wasn't going to cut it. she had to actually put her feet on the ground and get out of bed and she said that is what started her literally one foot in front of the other to go about start to begin to, if she could make it to the kitchen, that was a good sign. she made it to the kitchen that day. if she could get dressed that was a good day. quickly, does time really heal this wound? >> time can heal if do you the right thing with the time. if you're drinking away that
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time and using other medicine as a crutch, it's going to extend the time but if you do the work, time can heal. >> wendy walsh, great to talk to you about this and such a gift that madonna badger is talking about and giving other people inspiration to get through their tough times. thanks so much. >> um-hum. >> over to chris. >> a little bit of a tone change here. you know who i love? meter mans said nobody ever, but the robin hooders take this sentiment to another level, saving drivers from parking tickets from expired meters. now the self-proclaimed merrymen are headed to court. can did they go too far? a debate with one of them live next.
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all right so there's a group of activists calling them modern day robin hooders raising the eyre of authorities in a small new hampshire town. the group puts coined in expired meter, they claim they have saved citizens some $80,000 just in 2013 by preventing at least 1,000 tickets, money they say the city would have otherwise "stolen." the city tells a different side of the story. accusing the group of taunting, even harassing parking officers preventing them from doing their job. they've asked the state's highest court to issue a restraining order against the group. joining us is one of the so-called merrymen, james
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cleveland of from manchester, new hampshire. are your motives altruistic or is it something else behind all of this? >> there's definitely some altruistic motives behind it. i don't agree with how the parking is enforced and basically it's a threat and i don't think it's a criminal act which is what the city considers it to park your vehicle. there already is a time limit. we don't need the parking meters and to me it's outrageous they issue tickets when there is an expired meter and there's ten empty spots around. no one is being denied parking at that point. i can understand it a little bit if it's about managing the parking at key times but it's outrageous there's plenty of parking and they're out there issuing tickets. it's about revenue generation. >> why are you taking it out on the meter maids, though? nobody likes getting tickets. it's one thing you pay people's tickets but chasing around the people, they have a job to do, they have families, you're scaring them.
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what's that about? >> well, so the meter maids parking enforcement officers i never wanted robin hooding to be about them. out of necessity, i don't want to go around randomly filling the parking meters. i only want to feel meters that would have been ticketed. my goal is not to fill meters at random so i kind of have to be close to them and unfortunately, they do things like they'll divert their path in an attempt to get tickets. i've told them one idea proposal i had was that there is some kind of route. i wouldn't mind staying away from them. my goal is not go to bother them. my goal is to save people from parking tickets. >> what has been the response of everyday new hampshire people who see that when you're loading up the meter? >> well, of course some people don't like it, but some people do like it. >> who could not like it? >> we try to leave a little business card on the window. >> who could not like you feeding the meeter? >> people say that they are more than happy to pay the parking
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tickets. what's kind of funny, though, is all that money, it doesn't go to improving the streets or something. it pretty much goes to the parking department. so -- >> you had people say don't pay the meter for me, i want to get the ticket? >> i've had maybe one or two say that in the year and a half that i've been doing it. most people i've gotten hugged, people come up and give us change, we get donations in the mail. i have a wall, a collage that i made of the thank you cards, so. >> well we know it is now going to the highest court there. we'll wait and see what happens with this, you and your merry band of robin hooding coin-depositors. >> that's a very long title. >> i just made that up. >> won't fit on the back of a jersey. >> thanks for joining us to discuss this. >> come up with a catchier phrase.
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>> that was me. that was me. >> i could see mick paying for someone else and they don't get a ticket. >> not strong on the logo. >> not strong at all. >> that's great. thanks so much for joining us. time for "newsroom" with chris cuomo carol costello. >> have a nice day. thanks so much p newsroom starts now. happening now in "the newsroom," rocket disaster, heading for the international space station exploding into a fireball just seconds after liftoff. what happened? plus security scare at the white house, suspicious cyber activity detected on its computer network. new details who investigators believe is mind the attaat behi. kaci hickox will be prosecuted if she violates her quarantine.


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