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talking about airline prices because i thought, maybe holiday prices for my tickets home would go down. >> nope. >> darn. thanks for joining us. i'm michaela pereira. >> and i'm john berman. "legal view" with ashleigh banfield starts right now. going to be loud. [ bleep ]. holy [ bleep ]. oh, my god! >> [ bleep ]. >> he said it would be loud. it was earth-shaking. a setback for the private space industry, a rocket headed tort space station down in flames, millions of dollars in supplies and scientific research up in smoke. so what went wrong? in alabama, a case that's gone from a bathroom stall to a federal courtroom.
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a special needs student supposedly sent in as bait to catch a sexual predator at her school. she herself explains how that plan went so terribly wrong. and if hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, isis, beware. meet the women on the front lines taking on the world's most ruthless killers. hello, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield. welcome to "legal view." this country well knows the dangers involved in space flight and so as devastating as these pictures are, we all know last night's explosion of a rocket bound ft. international space station could have been so much worse. the antares rocket hired by nasa but owned by the private company orbital sciences carried 5,000 pounds of very valuable cargo. what it didn't carry was astronauts, people, human cargo. i want you to watch this liftoff in what nasa calls the, quote,
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catastrophic anomaly that followed. from the point of view of reporters stationed just three miles away. >> 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. >> holy crap. >> oh, god. >> [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. >> oh, god, it's going to be loud! >> it's going to be loud. >> [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. holy [ bleep ]. >> oh, my god! >> geez! >> oh, my god!
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>> [ bleep ]. >> oh, god. got to go. >> those voices say it all. got to go, holy mackerel and then the debris field came raining down from the sky. my cnn colleague tom foreman joins me live now on this from washington. i still can't see enough of those pictures. it is so remarkable to see that view from three miles away. the public is only allowed 12 miles away. so that press site is a very dangerous place to be that close. do we know anything about why this happened, tom? >> reporter: in a word, no. we do not. we know what they're looking at. from the moment this happened, they started looking at the t e
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telemetry of this rocket. this liquid-fueled first stage of this two-stage rocket kicked into action there. about six minutes in, it fell apart when it was supposed to burn for about four minutes and carry this rocket up into orbit where it would be traveling around 17,000 miles an hour, something like that. so what they're doing, they looked at the telemetry from the beginning. today they're picking up the pieces. they're looking far and wide for all the debris in all that marshland out there. they have to put it back together and see if they can trace it back to the source, what made it fall apart? all they've said so far is there seemed to be some disassembling of the bottom of the rocket. but that could just be the explosion itself. they have to find out why. did the disassembly lead to the explosion or did the explosion cause it? in the. >> they're going to reassemble like they would after an air disaster. that i have put them back together to find out where the
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mystery leads them. i want to talk about what was on board that also blew. this cargo was critical. 1,600 pounds of scientific experiment on matters ranging from meteors to human blood flow. there was about a ton of hardware, computer, spacewalk equipment. some of that gear is supposed to be classified. there were hundreds of pounds of food that was supposed to be heading up to the crew members on the international space station. so now that it's not going where it's supposed to be going, is this a pretty big problem? >> reporter: it's not a big problem, but it is a problem in the sense that every single ounce that gets sent into space is important because sending things into space is still incredibly difficult and expensive. so nothing's going up there that doesn't matter. what this means is some of these experiments will probably just be scrubbed. they may never fly again. some may find a way to get onto another flight if they can replace the equipment itself, which is expensive. in terms of supplies to the iss, a russian rocket took off today
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with more supplies ft. space station. there's another launch by spacex, a private corporation, scheduled for december 9th that would also take supplies up. there will be a steady stream of supplies. but they have to make up the difference now. if they had another setback somewhere, then people start seeing it in a much more critical eye to make sure those astronauts in flight in the iss are fully supplied. >> tom foreman live for us from washington, thank you for that, tom. >> reporter: you're welcome. >> also want to bring in matthew travis, he shot and posted that amazing video you were just looking at from that press viewing area, just three miles from the launchpad in coastal virginia. matthew is also, as it would happen, an aerospace engineer and managing editor of "zero g news." that view was very telling, what you physically experienced. i want you to sort of walk me through it. explain what that was like when that moment happened, matthew. >> sure. good afternoon. at first, it looked like a
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normal launch. we knew the antares would lift off a bit slower than previous ones because it was a heavier rocket. we noticed that. and then there was a flicker in the flame and it kind of just hovered in midair. that's when you see the disintegration, the disassembly of the back end of it. and we could feel the heat when it exploded. we could actually feel the heat from the fireball three miles away. and i've shot a number of launches. so i kind of knew that it was going to be loud. so i yelled out to everyone that it was going to be loud so when the concussion hit us, that they wouldn't drop their cameras or get scared -- >> and what did that feel like? what did that feel like when the concussion hit you?
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>> have you ever had of sonic boom or been to an air show with the jets -- it was stronger than that. it was like a bomb. >> did you realize right away -- because i remember from 9/11 watching the towers above me coming down. i didn't realize right away they were coming down to that spot. did you realize right away there was going to be debris raining down and that you were going to have to hightail it out of there? >> well, before we go out to the media viewing sites, we're always told what the procedures are in case of an anomaly like this. it was interesting, they made a big point of it this time yesterday when we went out that if anything happens, get back to the bus, leave everything. pick it up later. so that's kind of programmed in your mind. i've done it enough that before a launch, i always figure out
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what i'm going to do. but some of the newer people, they're not trained, they haven't trained themselves mentally to prepare for this. nobody's prepared for it mentally really. >> of course. although emergency crews say that they prepare for it every single time that they show up in these instances. but i want to ask you about your cameras and how many cameras you may have been actually set up for this. and will they play in any part in the investigation as to what happened and might they be actually very helpful, whatever images you were able to capture? >> well, i hope so. out at the press site, i had three cameras. one didn't get anything really usable. i had one video and one still camera. but out at the launchpad, i set up two still cameras and six video cameras. i and about half a dozen other people set up cameras right at the launchpad.
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those could be helpful in an investigation because they get close-up photos as things are happening. >> i think we might have just lost matthew's skype. but what an amazing image. matthew, are you back with us? >> i'm here. >> i have one last question for you. i wanted to just read this tweet. i'm going to put it up on the screen as well. nasa sent this out for anyone. if you find debris in the vicinity of the launch mishap from last night, please stay away and call the incident response team at 757-824-1295. just quickly, did you see anything? i know you quickly realized, we have to get out of here. did you see anything come down, did you see anything land or did you see in the immediate aftermath of this accident? >> we saw a lot of rocket parts flying all over the place.
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the upper space has solid fuel, it's not liquid like the first stage that failed. in the explosion, you can see -- looks like a firework, that, i'm assuming, was the upper stage engine disintegrating. that's pretty much all we could see. we had to evacuate immediately. so we were on the bus in less than two minutes. and it was a few hours before we could go back out and pick up the stuff that we left. and as far as our cameras at the launchpad, that could take maybe a week to get those back. >> oh, interesting. i'm glad you're with us and i'm glad you're okay. three miles may seem like a long way, but it is not at all. >> didn't feel that way last night. >> i'll bet. thanks so much for joining us today and showing us your pictures. >> sure. >> matthew travis joining us
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on its third mission to the iss. main engine at 108%. >> and just like that, 5,000 pounds of food and hardware and science experiments that were headed for the international space station burning up on the launchpad at wallops island, virginia. we are following the fallout from the first major setback of the post-shuttle private space flight era. joining me live with their expertise and insights on what happened last night, cnn aviation analyst and former cnn anchor miles o'brien as well as former astronaut and retired air force colonel, colonel ron garon. colonel, you are no stranger to space flight.
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could you take me there and tell me what it's like for the guys who are up there right now on the international space station seeing what they saw last night? >> there's a couple of ways to look at this. one is you have supplies coming up that maybe you were counting on. there was a lot of experiments on board, maybe these were experiments that you have worked on personally and were looking forward to working on. but in our case, we were also about two weeks from returning to earth. and the launch of this particular spacecraft, the "progress" spacecraft was basically on the same rocket that we launch people on. so we knew that the russian space agency was going to delay the next launch until they figured out what happened with this failure, which initially meant that we were going to be delayed coming home. so the first word we got was, be prepared to spend another two months on board the international space station -- >> colonel, i never expected you
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to give me the scheduling answer. i expected you to tell me that it's actually terrifying to see that because that could be the kind of ride you need. >> well, in this particular case as was the case with the progress, these are unmanned missions. and so there are big implications. but it's a lesson that we learn -- we're in a very dangerous business that although we've been doing this for decades, we still have a lot to learn and it's better to learn the type of lessons like this on unmanned spacecraft ban it is on manned spacecraft. being on board when you're expecting a cargo ship to come up and it doesn't come up has a lot of implications for your schedule, for your life in the near future. and there's also probably personal things on board you were looking forward to getting. but in the big scheme of things, that's pretty minor. >> apparently we're told the astronauts were actually watching as this happened as well. let me ask you about the
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protocols for testing and overnight and what kind of effect what happened last night is going to have on that. and specifically talking about the spacex launch about a month ago, what are we going to see change? >> i don't think you're going to see much change to spacex. it's a competitor to orbital science. they've taken a different approach. the big difference is they manufacture almost everything themselv themselves. you go to elon musk's factory in california and 80% of what comes out at the other end is made right there. they don't buy a lot of parts. they try to avoid that. in the case of orbital sciences, they looked around for engines and unfortunately there aren't a lot of options for u.s.-made engines. there are plans to build engines. but basically the commercial sector is all russian engines. in this case, they were 40-year-old engines, not 40-year-old technology, 40 years old.
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these were engines that were supposed to carry russian cosmonauts to the moon. the russians never did it. they went into storage for 40 years. orbital sciences bought them, refurbished them and attached them to the rocket. well, the idea of going to space safely on an engine that was built 40 years ago is fairly debatable. not saying the engines did it. but we have to come up with more ways of building rockets in this country. >> miles, you're the first person we think of when things like this happen. colonel, excellent to have you on board with us today. thank you both for your perspective. appreciate it. a 14-year-old special needs student says that she was raped in an alabama school supposedly after a teacher's aide came up with a plan to use her as bait, bait to catch another student in the act. the problem is, she said no one came to help her when that act began to happen. how on earth did they end up in
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this is just a horrifying case in alabama. a family of a special needs student at a school in madison county is suing over an incident that happened nearly five years ago but is still affecting this very young woman and devastating her life. the girl was 14 at the time. here's where it's unbelievable. she was allegedly used as bait to catch an accused special predator who was also a student at the same place where she was. a teacher's aide reportedly
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encouraged this girl to go with the boy into a bathroom so the teachers could catch him in the act. the only problem is no teachers came to the rescue and the girl was allegedly raped. the teacher's aide has been forced to resign but no repercussions for the school administrators who say they knew nothing about the plan or for the alleged rapist either. our victor blackwell spoke with the young woman and has more on the story. >> i just felt like i was set up by the teachers. >> reporter: we'll call her jayden, it's not her real name but for the first time, she's telling her story publicly. >> they gave me a word that they couldn't keep. >> reporter: sparkman middle school near huntsville, alabama, january 22nd, 2010, jayden was just 14 years old and a 16-year-old eighth-grader was propositioning her in the hallway again. what would this boy say to you?
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>> we would just always ask if i wanted to have sex with him and things like that. >> reporter: and what did you say? >> i usually just ignored him. >> reporter: jayden says a friend suggested she tell a teacher's aide, june simpson. simpson knew of other girls the boy tried to lure into the bathroom for sex. so jayden says she told simpson. however, when simpson alerted the school's principal, he told her it had to be proven he was guilty of something before he could be punished, according to court documents. so simpson hatched a plan. in this written statement, simpson explains how she wants to catch the boy using jayden as bait. she writes, i was tired of that kid and that she should go pretend she wanted to meet him so we could set him up to catch him. and when she first asked you to do that, what did you tell her? >> i told her no, i didn't want to do it. >> reporter: what changed your mind, then? >> because i just wanted it to stop. >> reporter: so the plan went forward.
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simpson says she told vice principal jeanne dunaway about the plan but dunaway denies the conversation ever happened. jayden says she left the vice principal's office moments later. did you see him in the hallway? >> uh-huh. >> reporter: what did you say to him? >> i said we could do it. >> reporter: according to jayden, the boy made a last-minute change. he told me to go into the boy's bathroom by the gym, she writes, and then told me, never mind because everyone was around. the two went into a different bathroom, simpson was watching surveillance cameras on the wrong hallway. >> i thought they were going to do what they said they were going to do and be there and stop him. and get him in trouble. >> reporter: jayden says she stalled, told him, i don't want to do this and she tried blocking him but she said it wasn't enough. and no one came? >> no.
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>> reporter: jayden says the boy sodomized her. simpson watched video surveillance like this and waited for several minutes until students told her jayden was not where she thought, that she had gone into another bathroom. simpson then sent a teacher to get them. they were found in a stall together. >> i told them what happened and they called the cops and my parents. >> reporter: according to the boy's written statement, they started kissing and that is it. jayden, however, said from the start she had been assaulted and although it was the aide's plan to bring the students together, the administrators shockingly said they were not convinced jayden was actually raped and when they were deposed by jayden's attorneys more than two years later, they were still unsure which student's story to believe. principal blair said, i still to this day don't know for sure what happened in that bathroom and that's the way i just have to leave it. vice principal dunaway told them, i believe she took responsibility for herself when she went into that bathroom.
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jayden's attorney even showed another vice principal picture of jayden's anal trauma and asked if a 14-year-old would have consented to that kind of behavior. and terrell replied, i don't know one way or another. >> she didn't consent. >> reporter: this was jayden's foster mother at the time. >> when we send our children to school, we send them there with the trust that the teachers are going to protect them. but when you send your child there thinking they're going to be okay and something like this happens, it really thwarts your trust for the school system. >> reporter: attorney eric artrip represents jayden and her father. >> if it had been followed, the allegations against this boy would have been properly investigated and this result would have never happened. >> reporter: in 2013, a federal court judge allowed claims of violation to state law including negligence but throughout federal claims against the
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faculty and school board. appeals have been filed by all parties. >> he found that the board of education's policies were proper. he found that school administrators took appropriate action and complied completely with federal law as soon as they were notified for this unfortunate incident. >> reporter: and what happened to the boy? well, he was not charged with a crime. instead court records show the school suspended him for five days for inappropriate touching of a female in boy's bathroom, then sent him to an alternative school for a short time. but he eventually returned to sparkman. it was at least the 13th sexual or violent incident in the boy's file, all in the space of two academic years. what do you think? >> he just gets away with it. >> reporter: if you're wondering about the aide and the administrators, june simpson was
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forced to resign. but the others have kept their positions with the school system. ronnie blair and teresa terrell are still principal and vice principal here at sparkman. and then there's jeanne dunaway, the vice principal who allegedly knew about the plan before it was enacted. she's since been promoted, now principal at a nearby elementary school. jayden eventually dropped out of school and at age 19, she continues to struggle. >> it's hard for me to have good days, have days to where i just want to sit there by myself and get angry fast er. i get insecure. >> reporter: how will you get to those good days? >> by actually having our day in court and letting everything be known so that it won't happen again. >> our thanks to victor blackwell for that report.
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last month, the departments of justice and education jointly submitted a brief in federal court explaining why the lower court's ruling on the title 9 violations was wrong. the essence of the argument came down to this passage, if title ix imposes any responsibility on school officials to prevent sexual harassment, it surely requires a response when they learn as here that a 14-year-old special needs student is about to be used as bait to catch a 16-year-old student with an extensive history of sexual and violent misconduct. up next, you'll hear the legal view on this extraordinarily complicated case. stay with us.
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it's simply incredible that anyone thought using a 14-year-old special needs student as bait for a 16-year-old boy was a good idea. the attorney for the teacher's aide, june simpson, embroiled in all this says, now looking back, it was probably not a good idea and even goes so far as to admit it was the wrong choice. choice. for the legal view, i want to bring in danny cevallos and paul callan. gentlemen, have at her. this one absolutely confounds me. i don't understand why it's not a criminal case. i don't understand why it never
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went to a grand jury. i can't understand why we're four to five years into this with no resolution. help me off the ledge. >> it's a big ledge you're on because there are two issues, first of all. people should understand, this case is going to go forward as a civil case on state charges because the federal judge says, hey, there's not enough to go into federal court on this because in federal cases, you have to prove that there was a process or procedure endorsed by the board of education that was violated. it's very hard -- >> it has to be big -- >> it's the big picture. but he says on the other hand, there are state charges that can go forward. so she will get justice at some point in time, hopefully in the case. but you asked a more important question. if she was sodomized in this restroom, in this boys' bathroom by this boy, why wupt asn't he arrested and local prosecutors prosecute the case?
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he said he assumed it was a consensual encounter. but subsequently a nurse examined her and there was evidence of bleeding in her anal area which would have supported a sodomy charge. i'm mystified as to why it wasn't handled as a criminal case. >> the devil is always in the details. maybe the dates on the photos weren't as clear as they could have been. maybe the evidence didn't surface for some time. but the statute of limitations should have accommodated for this case. i looked at this and i thought this was a "bring your wheelbarrow" for your settlement because you're going to need something to carry all that money home. it's not that simple. >> this case was thrown out on summary judgment. the district court judge looked at it and said, you can't prove any material facts. you don't even get a chance to go to trial and have your day in court. and that's always amazing because summary judgment is rarely granted. you can see in the amicus briefs as they're trying to appeal this that the gist of it is that, yes, indeed the school board had
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actual notice as is required under the statute. and they were deliberately indifferent. actual notice in normal parlance is, were they aware of it beforehand? how much more aware of something can you be if somebody comes to have a meeting in your office and says, hey, we've got this plan we've hatched up? to me, that sounds like actual notice. >> we still have a lot to get through on this story. and we'll have to revisit this. danny and paul, stay with me. i have a couple of other things for you coming up. new reports say ferguson, the ferguson police chief in missouri, thomas jackson, expected to step down soon. the weird thing is, he denies it. so who's saying it and why might it happen? what happens next in ferguson as we wait for the grand jury to decide whether or not to charge officer darren wilson in michael brown's death? when mom and dad said family vacation, i was expecting another trip to a water park.
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ferguson, missouri, the american city that cracked this summer along racial fault lines. and we're hearing today that the chief of police in ferguson is going to be stepping down. let me clarify that we're hearing from state and federal officials. pretty good sources. that chief thomas jackson is going to be leaving office, maybe even by next week. weird part is, chief himself, and even the mayor, says, no, it's just not true and it's not going to happen. so that's odd. while we wait to see who's right and who's wrong and what's actually going to happen, the bigger question is, would that make any difference at all in the current climate we're in? will that be enough to allow the people of ferguson to move on from the michael brown shooting and the explosive violence and protests that followed? the chief of police says no one is pushing him out and that he has not been fired. the police officer who fatally
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shot 18-year-old michael brown in august has not been charged with anything yet. but a grand jury is hearing the evidence right now that could potentially lead to an indictment or not. i've got my legal eagle right now on this. joey jackson joining me on this. here's the deal, joey. it's a little weird to be hearing rumors of his demise. but at the same time, is it possible that this might be one of those things to try to pave the road for the kind of news that many on those road -- they don't want to hear, no indictment? >> it could be. but there's a grand jury that's 'that's impanelled. they're evaluating two things, whether there's reasonable cause to believe a crime was committed and that darren wilson committed it. we also know of those 12, we need nine to meet that standard. it has been a bit fishy because
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information has been leaking out of that grand jury. and we know these proceedings generally are very secretive because you want to protect the integrity of it. but i think the chief is one figure here and certainly he was the face of this incident. but i think that it's really a number of other people within the department -- everyone needs to be looked at and everyone certainly needs to be evaluated. we also know that the federal government is conducting an investigation with respect to not only this particular incident but the whole practice of that department. has there been any wrongdoing? we don't know. has there been any illegality that's systemic and establishes a pattern? we don't know. what we certainly do know is there's a process. we'll let the process play out and we suspect and we hope that people who absolutely have a right to engage in first amendment and to protest and to allow their voices to be heard will do so peacefully and respectfully. >> so the murmurs are out there right now, in fact, the murmurs of people concerned if there isn't going to be an indictment in this case -- i want you to
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take a look at this report with me if you would from sara sidner who's in ferguson. she found that there were people generally afraid that if that policeman is not indicted, their city is just going to blow up all over again. >> reporter: ferguson police officer darren wilson hasn't been seen in public since shooting and killing michael brown. wilson was expected to show up in court to testify in six felony drug cases. but the prosecuting attorney's office says those cases have been dismissed because wilson did not show up to testify. the last time he was seen in ferguson was at the scene of the brown shooting on august 9th. ferguson, missouri, hasn't been the same since. nightly protests have not stopped. they are mostly peaceful. but -- >> it takes one person with bad intentions to make the entire situation spiral out of control. they take it above and beyond that. it's not just towards police anymore. sometimes these threats are going against police officers' families. >> reporter: protesters say it's
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the heavy-handed police response that created the problems. either way, the fear of what might happen if the grand jury does not indict wilson is growing. people are saying this place is going to blow up. >> yeah. that's what some people say. i've heard a lot of people saying -- some people say they'll be a part of blowing it up if he doesn't get indicted. i just hope at this time doesn't get bad. i hope nobody gets hurt. >> i know they're going to be really upset with the government buildings. i've heard about curfews that are going to happen. people are still thinking they're going to be able to protest and some people are scared. and they're stockpiling and saying they're not going to be able to get out of the house. it's a lot of people that are scared. but some people are just so angry, they don't care. >> reporter: anticipation that protesters will target government buildings and shut down certain streets and highways has happened during the height of the protests has school administrators reacting, sending home these letters to parents in one ferguson school district warning them of possible school closures.
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one superintendent with students who live in ferguson has written a letter making a plea to the prosecuting attorney. what are you asking of the prosecuting attorney's office? >> well, mainly we want to make sure that the decision doesn't come out during a time at which kids are in attendance which gives us the opportunity, should something need to be done differently because of the response of the community based on the verdict that's handed down. >> reporter: while the school districts prepare, so are residents, police and protesters with one protesters speaking directly to residents about a rumor and making a promise he hopes he can keep. >> i know that we're not burning down houses. i know that if i even see somebody wanted to burn down a house that i would stop them. and there are several other like myself that will not allow your homes to be vandalized. >> reporter: sara sidner, cnn, ferguson, missouri. >> so, joey, november's next week. >> that's right. >> we're expecting this announcement about an indictment anytime. >> we really are. so the grand jury will come back.
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they'll make their decision. and people in the community are concerned obviously. but i think it's systemic. and they'll protest and they'll be out there. but you trust and respect as was said in that peace the few who go out and do things that they shouldn't do, shouldn't detrack from the masses who are peaceful, honorable and just want their voices to be heard. we'll see. after the indictment or lack thereof, we'll have another discussion. >> and we'll do one of these for the good people of ferguson who don't deserve the damage. joey, always good to have you. >> pleasure. isis, here's a message, beware. your worst nightmare might be these people right here. but you have to get an upclose look because it's a group of women. and they are taking on the world's most ruthless terrorists. more on who they are, why they're doing it and the "oh, my god" factor next. why do i cook for the to share with family to carry on traditions to come together, even when we're apart in stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy, and more,
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america may be leading the air war against isis, but on the ground, it is mainly bands of iraqi and syrian militias on the front lines. cnn's ivan watson reports on a small but fierce kurdish faction that is like no other. ♪ >> reporter: don't be fooled by the pretty song. these women are part of a militia that is isis's most deadly enemy in syria. kurdish fighters from the people's protection units, or
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ypg. they've fought isis on the ground in syria for more than a year. only recently they started getting help from the u.s. in the form of air strikes and weapons drops, a surprising turn of events for this secular marksismark marxist-rooted movement, long battled america's nato ally, turkey. an important part of this kurdish faction's ideology is founded on gender equality. female fighters fight and bleed on the front lines. that stands in sharp contrast to isis which has been covering women up and hiding them from public life. addressing the crowd, a top kurdish official who urges the fighters to protect their people from becoming slaves of isis. she is the co-president of one of three kurdish states in northern syria, largely governing themselves for the last three years.
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>> translator: our dream is to build a democratic society that includes arabs, christians and kurds, living together in unity. >> reporter: the kurds call their region rojova. some of them clearly proud of their experiment in self-rule. life in this town looks relatively peaceful and secular, unlike other parts of syria, taken over by islamist militias. but the streets here feel empty. many of the town's christian residents have fled and more keep leaving. this is a sad day for your family. why? >> because they will leave our country. >> reporter: peter's tearful mother and sister wave good-bye from inside a 1954 de soto, their final destination? germany. the town's christian flock can walk peacefully through the streets to sunday school enjoying the protection of the kurds.
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but the kurds are paying dearly. at this memorial ceremony, mothers and wives of dead fighters and this widow, she says isis killed her husband last year and mutilated his body. if i didn't have these children, i myself would go and fight, she swears. her young son already wears the uniform of a future kurdish fighter. ivan watson, cnn, rojova in northern syria. >> thanks for watching, everyone. my colleague, wolf blitzer, starts right after this quick break. [ julie ] the wrinkle cream graveyard. if it doesn't work fast... you're on to the next thing. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair has the fastest retinol formula to visibly reduce fine lines and wrinkles in just one week. neutrogena®.
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