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of free or discounted courses available online. interesting. >> you can get credit for junior high for watching "early start." >> this is true. >> seventh grade language arts. we can write you a slip. >> john berman is a lot like a seventh grader. >> i'm a lot younger than you. "early start" continues right now. happening now. a tense standoff with a nurse returned from treating ebola patients in west africa and the state of maine. kaci hickox refusing to follow a mandatory quarantine as police gathered around her house. what she said overnight. new information that high profile terrorists targeted by u.s. air strikes in syria have survived and could be actively plotting against the united states. the san francisco giants on top again winning their third world series in five years. how did they do it?
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>> one word. madison bumgarner. >> that's two words. we are live in kansas city ahead. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm john berman. great to see you this thursday, october 30th. it is 5:00 in the east. does the state of maine have the right to keep the nurse quarantined with no symptoms just because she treated ebola patients in west africa? kaci hickox has no ebola symptoms as we said. she has tested negative for the virus twice, but maine officials told hickox to stay isolated in her home. they will seek a court order to make sure that happens. with hickox's boyfriend at her side, she told reporters this is not science based. >> it is not my intention to put anyone at risk in the community.
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we have been in necessigotiatio with the state of maine all day. we tried to handle this amicably. i am completely healthy and symptom free. i am frustrated by this fact and i have been told that the attorney general's intention is to file legal action against me and if this does occur, then i will challenge those legal actions. i'm fighting for something much more than myself. there are so many aid workers coming back. doctors without borders estimated 20 american aid workers are coming back from the ebola response next month. it scares me to think how they will be treated and how they will feel. when we let stigma win, we all lose. >> there are other cases where individuals have not tested positive, did not believe they
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were symptomatic and quickly developed symptoms while out in the public and have since been hospitalized. i do not understand why this common sense approach to ask someone to stay in their home for 21 days during the incubation period, why that is not a reasonable request. >> something is going to happen today. this will come to a head. hickox says she is not sure what she will do today. whether she will go into the nearby town of ft. kent or not. she says she is thinking about five minutes ahead at this point. >> president obama is emphasizing a need for a science based response for ebola. flanged by the ebola workers, president obama praised their bravery. he said america must lead in the fight against ebola. he warned there could be more cases of ebola in the united
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states. >> i want america to understand the truth is that until we stop this outbreak in west africa, we may continue to see individual cases in america in the weeks and months ahead. because that's the nature of today's world. we can't hermetically seal ourselves off. >> the nbc news cameraman who survived a brush with ebola now understands the suffering he did stories about. ashoka mukpo spoke with cnn's don lemon. mukpo fell ill one day into a shoot for nbc news in liberia. he suffered through the worst of the disease in a nebraska hospital where he recovered. >> i used to see people who would be laying in front of treatment centers waiting to be admitted and laying in the
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ground in the sun and say you can't sit up at least. once i got sick, i understood. you have no energy. to walk three feet feels like a marathon. i'm lucky to be alive. i'm back home. good feeling to be where i am right now. >> the only remaining ebola patient in the united states, dr. craig spencer is in critical, but stable condition in bellevue hospital. there is surprising news from liberia. the number of ebola case there is seems to be dropping. this is according to the world health organization. officials do not know if there really are fewer cases or if sick people stopped going to the hospital or if overwhelmed
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health care workers stopped reporting cases. the w.h.o. says 521 health care workers across west africa have been infected with ebola. 272 have died which makes it all the more heroic that so many brave doctors and nurses volunteer for the duty. cnn's nic robertson is live with the latest information on ebola testing is due to begin this week. nic. >> reporter: christine, a lot of attention focused on this hospital currently the place where the world health organization is testing the first vaccine that's been given to take on ebola. it has been tested on animals up to now. 250 volunteers, up to 250 volunteers at the hospital will get the vaccine. they are testing for safety and if they have the vaccine levels, if you will, set correctly to give an adequate dosage to
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protect against ebola. if this is successful, and they will know that by december, in january, they could begin testing of thousands of people in liberia and sierra leone. of course, they say, health care workers would be the first among those to get the vaccine. if that is successful, they could see a significant scale of millions of shots made available by april of next year. >> nic, you have been talking to the doctors and nurses to fight the frontlines in west africa. what are they telling you about quarantine upon return? >> reporter: they are all disappointed. i talked to the people organizing training and giving the training and volunteered to go and get the training to go on to west africa. they are all disappointed. they don't think it is necessary. to put this in perspective. the world health organization says about 1,500 health care
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international workers are needed right now in west africa to stop the spread of ebola. they are woefully short of that at the moment. this training course had just 32 health care professionals on it. they are very worried that quarantine regulations like this will put off more doctors and nurses and others who might otherwise volunteer. they say people are scared off because of the high attrition rate with health care officials catching ebola and dying of ebola. they are afraid of the quarantine measures could have a further negative effect just when they really need more people to step up because the problem is you have to throw your resources at it early, they say, because if you don't right now, combat the spread of ebola with this 1,500 health care professionals required, in a month's time, you will need more. >> these are the good guys who are going there to where the heart of the crisis is in trying
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to help people and save lives. nic robertson, thanks. new worries in the u.s. intelligence community. concerns that the first air strikes in syria last month did not kill key terrorist operatives. operatives that u.s. officials said have special skills and operatives that could be plotting attacks right now against the united states. cnn's barbara starr has all the details. >> reporter: john, u.s. officials are telling cnn's pam brown and myself that they now believe two key operatives in syria are still alive. two al qaeda operatives belonging to the khorasan group. the leader, al fadhli and then david drugeon. they are concerned about these people because they have the capability to work to make non detectible bombs to get past airport screening and they have the ability to recruit european
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jihadist and send them back to europe and then possibly on to the united states. the khorasan group these men belong to has been a big concern for the u.s. which has been labeled imminent threat to the u.s. because of this ability. the u.s. attacked the khorasan group on september 22nd with 50 tomahawk cruise missiles. they always worried they did not get these men. they don't know if they left the site before the strike began or if they are injured. this is the clearest acknowledgment that the u.s. believes both of the dangerous operatives are still alive. john, christine. thank you. time for an early start on your money. european stocks higher. so are u.s. stock futures. the fed is done with the controversial bond buying program. the party is over.
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six years of support for the american economy. supporters say the flood of money sparked a recovery in housing and job growth. 5.9% is the jobless rate. the fed is stoking new bubbles. we will pay for it later on. at 8:30 this morning, we will get a look at the u.s. economy. third quarter growth. gdp. the forecast here is 3% which is solid growth. >> especially compared to europe. the war against isis intensifying in and around the key syrian city of kobani. major developments overnight. reinforcements on the way. the question is will it be enough? plus, what we are learning now about the nasa rocket explosion and that investigation after the break. ring ring! progresso! i can't believe i'm eating bacon and rich creamy cheese before my sister's wedding well it's only 100 calories, so you'll be ready for that dress uh-huh...
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major developments overnight in the battle of isis in the key syrian city of kobani. officials have now arrived in turkey, close to the syrian border town of kobani. syrian rebel forces got into the city on wednesday. one rebel leader says the terrorists control half of kobani. u.s. air strikes have not been able to drive them out, but it seems as if they have halted the progress of isis.
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can now the introduction of new reinforcements tip the scales and push isis out? let's get the latest from the senior international correspondent nick paton walsh on the border with turkey. good morning, nick. >> reporter: john, i just heard in the last few minutes with the official from peshmerga that they may actually not be entering. that is the iraqi kurds peshmerga, may not enter for a day or two more. they are still here inside turkey. we have seen some of them in a police complex along the main highway here. they arrived at 3:00 this morning with crowds greeting them along the route. two parts of the convoy. motorized bit driving from iraq through turkey and a lot of men flown by plane. they will gather and prepare themselves for the entry into kobani. a more complex process than
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people led to expect. the surprise being turkey allowed the syrian rebels yesterday. reinforcements are there. they are not the kurdish ones that they were expecting, the peshmerga are here, but the clock is not ticking with the speedy think many thought would be the case with the peshmerga getting in. the fight is continuing inside. the awful weather may be slowing it slightly. the issue is how quickly can the peshmerga get in. the turkish authorities are describing it as lengthy. it is a suspicious that turkey is assisting as much as they can. >> nothing moving quickly. nick paton walsh, thank you. investigators from nasa and the company orbital sciences are assessing the damage after the unmanned rocket exploded six
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seconds into flight at the wallops island flight center. officials saying stay away from the rocket debris. >> everybody is keeping fingers crossed that the damage is minimal. >> it could potentially push us back. our concern is getting back in to assess the equipment that we have or if there is damage from the blast. >> the rocket had a $200 million payload which included some 5,000 pounds of food, supplies and science experiments. some experiments were from students. >> we were talking to miles o'brien. he said they have food on the space station for a year. a lifetime supply of tang. they never run out of tang. we have indra petersons with the forecast today.
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>> we saw the cold front kick through and no longer will that be the main story. you see it exiting offshore. what doesn't look like much, a swirl out here, this will be the big story over the next several days. it will bring the chill. yes, we have a temperature drop today. it looks like new york city from 70s to 59. look at this. we are talking about snow flurries are now in the forecast. it is that time of year. that next system that makes its way through is dropping temperatures significantly. bringing some of you the first flurries of the year. there you go. low dropped down a bit. look what happens in kentucky and west virginia. even getting several inches of snow from the next system that is expected to drop down. let's talk about the temperature drop. i said ten degrees. it doesn't look so bad. by the time we get through tomorrow, here comes the cold air. st. louis looking at only 40s. by tomorrow, that cold air spreads to the east.
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here is the halloween forecast. places in michigan, windchill below freezing for trick-or-treating. >> that's the midwest. >> i guess they are used to it. >> half my life was halloween in a parka. we know how that goes. >> and you still bear the scar. for the third time in the last five seasons, the san francisco giants are the world series champions. andy scholes live on the scene with the bleacher report next. ride sharing companies are increasi increasingly popular across the country. you may want to think twice before dumping your car. nerd wallet compared the cost of owning a car and ride sharing with uber. having your own car is cheaper. in new york, the cost of owning a car is $12,000 a year. the cost of uber or lyft is
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so a party going on in san francisco this morning. a lot of reasons to party. for the third time in five years, i can count, the giants are the world series champions. >> andy scholes is in kansas city with the bleacher report. andy, what we saw was an historic performance by a pitcher last night. >> it was, john. what a game this was. this place was rocking last night. fans in kansas city were hoping for the first world series title in the last 29 years.
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one man had other plans. his name was madison bumgarner. game seven had everything. the giants grabbed the lead when michael morris had the broken bat single. then two days rest after a shutout in game five, madison bumgarner picked up where he left off. he cruised to the ninth inning where we saw high drama. a liner to center. blanco misplays it. gordon got a triple. a lot of people thought he should have gone home. the next batter gets perez to foul out. giants win the world series. bumgarner, another five shutout innings. he is the mvp after an historic post season. >> obviously, it hasn't sank in yet. not enough to think about it.
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this is as good as it gets. >> it is hard pressed for me to find another way after this. it has to be one of very few in the history of baseball. >> it is the third world series title the in five years for the giants. they got this one by doing something no one had done in 35 years. that is win game seven on the road. the other side of things, what a disappointing ending for the royals. they were on the verge of completing one of the greatest runs of professional sports history. the fans sad they did not win it all, but obviously very proud of this team. >> i can't believe it. it is just -- we're just happy to have been here, obviously. surreal. >> it is great to get here. heart broken. i wish we could have won. >> guys, obviously, you can see
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a somber mood in the parking lot. i hope we with would have an early start party. the only party we saw was in the san francisco clubhouse. it was rocking in there. i think i still smell like champagne and beer here. >> that's a thursday. andy scholes, great to have you with us. every day you are around, it's a party. thank you. 27 minutes past the hour. tense standoff with a nurse returning from west africa treating patients and the state of maine where she lives. kaci hickox refusing the 21-stay quarantine. she says she is not sick. police outside her home. she spoke out. we will tell you that after the break.
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not sick. not backing down. a nurse recently returned from treating ebola patients in west africa refusing a mandatory quarantine. the state of maine threatening to sue. police officers outside her house. we will bring you the latest. terrorists planning an imminent attack on america, now survived the attack from. u.s.-led coalition. what is the latest ahead. and the san francisco giants claiming their third world series title in five years.
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one of the most epic pitching performances of all time. i submit the greatest world series pitcher of all time. it happened, folks. welcome back to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. let's start with what is happening overnight. the standoff with the nurse and the state of maine. she has no symptoms and in quarantine because she treated patients in west africa. kaci hickox has tested negative twice, but officials have told her to stay in her home. overnight with her boyfriend at her side, hickox told reporters she will not let herself rights violated. >> it is not my intention to put anyone at risk in the community. we have been in negotiations all day with the state of maine and tried to resolve this amicably.
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they will not allow me to leave my house and have any interaction with the public even though i am completely healthy and symptom free. i am frustrated by this fact and i have been told that the attorney general's intention is to file legal action against me and if this does occur, then i will challenge those legal actions. i'm fighting for something much more than myself. there are so many aid workers coming back. doctors without borders estimated 20 american aid workers coming back within the next month. it scares me to think how they will be treated and how they feel. when we let stigma win, we all lose. >> there are other cases where individuals have not tested positive, did not believe they were symptomatic and quickly developed symptoms while they were out in the public and have
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since been hospitalized. i do not understand why this common sense approach to ask someone to stay in their home for 21 days during the incubation period, why that is not a reasonable request. >> hickox said she is not sure what she will do today. whether she will go into the nearby town of ft. kent. she says she is only thinking five minutes ahead. president obama emphasizing the need for science-based response to ebola. flanked by ebola survivors. the president praised their bravery to fight the deadly disease. he touted the federal guidelines and emphasized monitoring over quarantine. he said the united states must lead in the fight against ebola and warn there could be more cases of that disease here in the united states. >> i want america to understand the truth is that until we stop
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this outbreak in west africa, we may continue to see individual cases in america in the weeks and months ahead. because that's the nature of today's world. we can't hermetically seal ourselves off. >> the freelance cameraman now understands the suffering the those he did stories about in west africa. ashoka mukpo spoke with cnn's don lemon wednesday. mukpo fell ill one day into a shoot in liberia for nbc news. he was air lifted to nebraska's medical center where he suffered through the worst of the disease and recovered. >> i used to see people who would be laying in front of treatment centers trying to get admitted. they are just laying on the ground in the gravel in the sun. i used to look at them and say my god you can't sit up at least. once i was sick, i understood. you have absolutely no energy to
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walk three feet which feels like you ran a marathon. i feel good. i am lucky to be alive and near family and friends and back home. it is a good feeling right now. >> it's amazing where he has been. the only remaining ebola patient in the u.s. is dr. craig spencer. he is in critical, but stable condition in bellevue hospital in new york. the state department called spencer a hero and praised him for cooperating with the investigation. and new worries this morning in the u.s. intelligence community. deep concerns that the first u.s. air strikes last month did not kill terrorist operatives. operatives with special skills who could plot against the united states. cnn's barbara starr has the latest. >> reporter: telling us that they now believe two key
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operatives in syria are still alive. two al qaeda operatives belonging to the so-called khorasan group. the leader of the group, a al fadhli and a terrorist david drugeon. they are concerned about these people because they have ability to make non detectible bombs to get past airport screening and have the ability to recruit and train them and send them back to europe and possibly send them on to the united states. the khorasan group these men belong to has been a big concern for the u.s. it has been labeled an imminent threat to the u.s. because of this very ability. the u.s. attacked the khorasan group on september 22nd with almost 50 tomahawk cruise missiles. a number of sites. they always worried they did not get these two men. they don't know if they had left the site before the strike began
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or if possibly they are injured. this is the clearest acknowledgment we have now that the u.s. believes both of these very dangerous operatives are still alive. john, christine. barbara starr, thank you. time for an early start on your money. u.s. stock futures lower now after the fed ended its bond buying program yesterday as expected. the party is over, folks. six years of support for the economy. the flood of money sparked a recovery of housing and job growth. the fed program izturc promisedp the interest rates low. apple pay has been breached. hackers stole e-mail addresses for the pilot program. it is called currentc. it is backed by retailers like walmart and best buy. it is the reason that cvs
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developing overnight.
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reinforcements for the besieged city of kobani. fighters from iraq have arrived in turkey near the syrian border town. syrian rebel forces arrived yesterday. u.s.-led air strikes have not been able to drive out the isis fighters. we have nick paton walsh live on the border with turkey. nick. >> reporter: christine, we have speaking to officials on the kurds side that the peshmerga have yet to arrive and one of the commanders in iraqi kurds. he say it may take a day or two to move from the position they are in, a mile from where i'm standing, a police complex down the road to the official crossing to kobani. the two groups of peshmerga, motorized bit through turkey and
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the guys who flew in from a plane. it may take a day or two to put themselves in kobani. it is down to security consideration. isis has had a long time to prepare for the peshmerga to move in. what they will bring with them, that large convoy of heavy weaponry and hardware, that could assist the syrian kurds fighters. we hear planes above us. most times of the day, the coalition is still in evidence here. the fight still not over. i'm surprised with the syrian kurds yesterday morning when they saw the peshmerga, they had been less excited about the turkey's bidding in arriving so quickly. the peshmerga is here. in reasonable term of the number of the battle behind me and later today and the cover of night, they have gone through
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turkey with throngs of crowds welcoming them through. the question is how quickly can they start changing the battle in kobani. >> will it be street by street fighting? if you have the cover the coalition air strikes, do they need to go street by street here? >> reporter: effectively to regain entire control of kobani, they will have to go street by street and clear it out. the issue is in the past few weeks that isis positions in the past have been defined. the places they fire mortars from. yes, isis do have the define the position. it is up to them to find the peshmerga side. the ground forces to clear the territory and hold it. the question is, christine, what fight does isis have in it for kobani? >> nick, thanks for that.
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interesting how that has evolved in the last couple of weeks. not being a critical spot to save for the coalition to now clearly going all out. >> just one of the things we are watching this morning. look at what is coming up on "new day." alisyn is joining us. >> we will have more on the maine nurse saying no to quarantine. kaci hickox insists she will not be bullied by the state because she has no symptoms. she vows to disregard the quarantine. does she have a case? we will ask joey jackson. and chris christie taking on a heckler. it is all on tape. we will show you that. is a reenergized christie gearing up for a run? and do women just have to accept catcalls from men? that is all ahead at the top of the hour. >> interesting. >> you are holding your
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response. >> it is wise. we have a commercial break coming up. i will voice my opinions then. look forward to it. 46 minutes past the hour. san francisco giants world series champions again. how they pulled this off. we are live in kansas city with the big game moments and reaction this morning next. the largest enterprises are the largest targets in the world, for every hacker, crook and nuisance in the world. but systems policed by hp's cyber security team are constantly monitored for threats. outside and in. that's why hp reports and helps neutralize more intrusions than anyone... in the world. if hp security solutions can help keep the world's largest organizations safe, they can keep yours safe, too. make it matter.
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san francisco celebrating its third world series in five years. it took one giant pitching performance. >> epic. he is the greatest pitcher in world series history. we have the greatest sports reporter in history with us. andy scholes live in kansas city. good morning, andy. >> reporter: good morning, guys. you know what a game this was. kansas city fans standing the all time. they were yelling and hoping for the first world series title in 29 years. one man, like you said, had epic pitching performance. madison bumgarner. top of the fourth, giants with the lead with the broke bat single. then after a shutout in game five, bumgarner cruised to the ninth inning where we had high drama. alex gordon with a liner to center. blanco misplays it. gordon with a triple.
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he should have gone home. bumgarner gets perez to foul out. giants win the world series. bumgarner with another five shutout innings. he is the mvp after an historic post season. >> obviously it hasn't sunk in yet. not enough time to think about it. this is as good as it gets. world series game seven. >> for me, it is hard pressed to find another performance like this ever. it has to be one of very few in the history of baseball. what he did tonight is incredible. >> reporter: so the third world series title in five years for the giants. they got this one by doing something no one had been able to do in 35 years. that is win a game seven on the road. on the other side of things, what a disappointing ending for the royals. on the verge of completing one of the greatest runs in sports
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history. the fans, obviously sad they did not win it all, but very, very proud of this team. >> i can't believe it. it's just -- we're just happy to have been here obviously. surreal. >> it was great to get here, but heartbroken. >> reporter: guys, i was hoping for an early start party in the parking lot this morning, but as you can see, somber mood. party still in san francisco right now. we can start talking about this team or referring to them as a dynasty. three world series titles in five years. >> astounding. two teams that have three world series titles since 2000. the red sox and then the giants. everyone would like to see that battle. that would be good. andy, thank you so much. in kansas city, they have great fans there. they pull for their team. after they did not win, they
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let's get an early start on your money. european stocks moving lower right now. so are u.s. stock futures. the federal reserve ending the bond buying program. the u.s. economy is strong enough to go on its own, although, the fed is still keeping interest rates near zero. that helps. promise to keep them low for a considerable time. this story i love.
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in recent years, black friday sales have crept into thanksgiving thursday. this year, some retailers are saying forget it. enough is enough. costco, gamestop and nordstrom will be closed all day thanksgiving day. >> good for them. >> they will not make black friday become brown thursday. costco employees deserve to spend time with their families. last year, most major retailers started dealing between 5:00 and 8:00 p.m. thursday night. now it is thursday night on thanksgiving instead of black friday. i'll tell you on social media, the response has been overwhelmingly supportive. a lot of people say the retail rush around a time that is meant to give thanks you survived a horrible winter was just inappropriate and there are some people who work at the retailers who like the overtime. those retailers are making a
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stand. interesting. >> very interesting. people who shop no matter what. all right. happening right now. a tense standoff that could come to a head at any moment. a nurse returned from treating ebola patients in west africa is facing off against the state of maine. kaci hickox refusing to follow a mandatory quarantine. police are gathered around her house. this
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