the state of maine. and tried to resolve this amicably. but they will not allow me to leave my louse then allowed to return to her boyfriend's home here in fort kent, maine. state troopers standing guard outside. >> the governor is merely pandering to the fear that exists that supposedly she's contagious, she has a right to live her life. >> hickox tested negative for ebola twice, that's not stopping state officials from seeking a court order to mandate quarantine for full 21 days. >> we feel strongly about the protocol that we've established and we have grave concerns about the lack of leadership at the
federal level. >> the state says hickox is required to remain isolated at home until october 10th. but she says she's not planning on it. >> and i've been told that the attorney general's intention is to file legal action against me. if this does occur, then i will challenge those legal actions. >> some residents in fort kent say they have nothing to fear. >> it's if only transferable by bodily fluids, i guess we don't have anything to worry about, if you don't come in contact with her. >> but others are not so sure. >> she come here and she does that, i don't want to bring it home. >> on wednesday, hickox said she wouldn't defy the mandate by leaving the house. >> the next step in all of this today may be that legal battle in court. the state of maine has made its intentions very clear. that they will go to court to obtain an order so there is a mandatory quarantine, so she is forced to remain in a home for the duration of that 21-day period. they believe she could become
infectious, the attorney for kaci hickox tells cnn we have three days to oppose that order and we're ready to do that. for more, let's bring in dr. kent sepkowitz and infectious disease specialist and doctor at memorial-sloan koettering hospital and prosecutor joey jackson. the state of maine says she should be away from public. who is right, doctor? >> she is right on the scientific basis. i won't comment on the legal. medically, scientifically, she's totally within reason and she's doing what i would do, let's put it that way. >> you would refuse to be quarantined for 21 days after you came back from liberia or west africa? >> what i have the chutzpah to do it, i'm not sure i'm that
energetic, but she's totally within her rights of what the science says, absolutely. >> how can the state make her stay indoors for 21 days? >> we're dealing with a public health crisis and a potential of proportions unlike what we've ever seen. we can talk about the medical aspects of it. one thing, those could be debatable. people are dying. one thing that's not debatable, alisyn, is this -- it could take 21 days for any symptom to manifest itself. what is 21 days in the span of someone's lifetime? you always want to balance individual concerns and liberties and recognize and respect her for the great work she did for a month in helping people. at the same time you have to protect the public and in balancing those liberties and priorities, i certainly think the state of maine is on solid legal footing in saying -- stay home. >> i'm curious, joey, if she leaves the house and tries to get into her car, what happens? the state troopers tackle her? what happens? >> i think what they want to do is to keep her away from the public. we know and understand it can't
be communicated, this disease, unless there are fluids. but what if she happens to vomit? we think the police would respect her and not tackle her and treat her gingerly. but at the same time they're there for a reason and that's to insure she stays home and outside of infecting potentially the public at large. >> dr. supkowitz, the public opinion is on joey's side. the most recent polling done by cbs news, they asked the public, what should happen to u.s. citizens returning from west africa. number one, allowed to enter if no symptoms is at 17%. quarantined upon arrival -- 80%. the public feels what's the big deal about 21 days. >> i think there's mostly a very important principle here. i think that he h we run a similar poll 25 years ago about hiv, should ryan white, the kid who had hiv in indiana years
ago, who was not allowed to go to school, but the public would have said of course, that's a good thing. don't let the kid come here. i think showing that the public is panicked, is what your poll shows. showing that the public is correct is a very different matter. i don't think we should give in to you know, the majority of -- >> anxiety. our ethics don't always match up with the science of it. i understand. joey, the attorney general is considering filing legal charges against kaci. what are those charges? >> what the charges are, it's not so much charges to the extent there's any criminality here, what the attorney general wants to do is to insure that the quarantine is respected. to insure that the public health is otherwise protected here and that she doesn't go out and infect anybody. >> what crime is this? >> it's not a crime. it's a public health law which entitles and allows the state to make reasonable regulations to protect the public. so with the order will provide is that she simply stay home and
that be enforced by the state troopers or any other law enforcement to keep her out of public view. >> she says she's planning to challenge those charges, who wins? >> i think if you're going to be a judge in this case, i think you at this point exercise prudence and good judgment. you can't be wrong. and who wants to be the judge, alisyn that says you're not exhibiting symptoms right now. you're asymptomatic, so in light of that, we're not going to offend your liberty, go out amongst the masses, what happens in the event that she's out amongst the masses and something breaks out or something happens? >> that's what happened with dr. craig spencer in new york, he was out among the masses and he came down with symptoms and tested positive for ebola. >> and no one around him has come down with symptoms. we should do what shows that the mantra, although doctors you have on the shows keep saying, are you not contagious unless are you symptomatic. you're not contagious unless you
are symptomatic. i think that you had use the word reasonable. i'm go back to that reason. i do not think it is reasonable to say that she poses a public health menace right now. >> so doctor, she's asymptomatic at this point, what allows her in the event she becomes symptomatic? >> as happened with spencer? >> the biology of the infection is known early in symptoms the amount of virus that the person has is negligible, they are not contagious, it's only dying patients who are contagious, we've learned that, we've seen that, that is true. it's not a public health blitz on our part. >> any epidemic, it takes one and it's the domino effect and then other people get it. why take that risk? >> the doctor has pointed out, dr. craig spencer was out in new york city, a teaming metropolis and nobody else has gotten sick. >> that we know of at this
particular point. >> dr. supkowitz, joey jackson, thanks so much for the debate. let's go to michaela for more. rebel leaders say more than half of kobani is now under the control of isis. hundreds of kurdish fight verse been sent to defend the town, u.s.-led air strikes have not been able to drive isis militants out. complete control of kobani would give the terror group a critical strategic corridor along the turkish border. >> a delegation of top israeli officials will visit the white house to talk diplomacy, it comes during deepening tensions between washington and jerusalem. the obama administration is trying to cool things down following an anonymous comment from a top u.s. official, mocking prime minister benjamin netenyahu, we're live in washington following this. >> president obama and israeli prime minister netenyahu never really liked each other. they aren't trying to hide it
any more. beneath all the name-calling lies some pretty serious tensions on major issues. the long-simmering feud between the u.s. and israel is getting ugly. one obama administration official quoted in a recent magazine article, making the derogatory comment about israeli prime minister netenyahu. the thing with bebe is he's chicken [ bleep ] the unnamed official said, adding quote, he's got no guts, refusing to make a deal with the palestinians or arab states. not surprisingly -- the white house was on the defensive. >> comments like that do not reflect the administration's view, we do believe they are counterproductive. >> the relationship is not in crisis. the relationship is actually fundamentally strong anywhere many respects than it's ever been. >> netenyahu shot back he was under attack for simply defending israel. but he praised his country's deep connection with the u.s. that deep connection, however, is being severely tested. >> no two allies agree on every
single issue and when we disagree, we raise it as friends do, we believe the best place to do that is privately. >> tensions boiled over this year with the collapse of the arab/israeli peace talks and israel's invasion of gaza. israeli officials openly attacked secretary of state john kerry's failed diplomatic efforts. and a u.s. remains angry over continued israeli settlement construction. house speaker john boehner called the comments disrespectful and demanded the administration official who made them be fired. saying quote the president sets the tone for his administration. and another big sore spot in the relationship is the nuclear issues with iran and the nuclear negotiations. the november 24th deadline for a deal is approaching, israelis have watched with great concern about a deal they think won't put enough curbs on iran's nuclear program and the white
house has indicated they'll try to bypass a deal with congress where israel's support is the strongest. >> we'll see if they're a able to ease tensions. we're five days away from the mid-term elections in what could be a disaster for democrats, even in typically blue states. party officials scrambling now at the last minute to defend endangered house incumbents in states like california, massachusetts, new york and illinois. states president obama easily won two years ago. only four incumbent republicans are believed to be in danger of losing tuesday as opposed to 23 democrats. it has been two years since superstorm sandy ravaged the east coast. the anniversary of that disaster yesterday. one voter not happy with the way new jersey chris christie has handled his state's recovery. that man stood up with a sign during a speech that christie was giving yesterday honoring the anniversary. he probably anticipate what happened next.
>> so listen, you want to have the conversation later? i'm happy to have it, buddy. but until that time, sit down and shut up. >> as you might expect from governor christie. the heckler was identified as a former councilman from asbury park so i sense there's some history there. >> he wasn't being vocal. he was just holding up the sign. >> he was being vocal. >> he was heckling? >> he was protesting. >> he was speaking. >> that would make me feel better about the "shut up." >> vintage christie. >> that's why people love him. >> it's very jersey. there's something refreshing. >> jersey and refreshing, there's a combination you don't hear every day. the kings of baseball this morning are the san francisco giants. they beat the royals 3-2. what a series, down a game seven thriller. third world series title in the past five seasons, pitching ace
madison bumgarner, what a name, right? he was the star again, named srgs mvp. the good times as too often happens when dumb people get things they should want. trouble in the streets of san francisco. fans setting fires, throwing rocks and bottles at police. two reports of people being shot. andy scholes live in kansas city to break down the world series finale. let's stick with the positive here. three championships in five years. pretty strong, scholes, you got to be at the game. extra strong. >> it was exciting stuff, chris, you know when we start talking about the giants team. we got to start mentioning that they're probably a dynasty. not only have they won three world series championships in the past five years, they did it by doing something that no team had been able to do in 35 years, that's win a game seven on the road. their ace, as you mentioned, madison bumgarner, mad bum.
on two days' rest he came out and pitched another five shut-out innings, sealing the win for the team in game seven. he's your mvp after one of the most historic postseasons we'll ever see. when you talk about the greatest teams in baseball history, this giants team is definitely in the conversation. >> it's one of those things happen you know in five years, to have three rings, many guys in the hall of fame, being in that situation, never happen. >> it's pretty hard for us to find something i think with the period in the game right now, three in five years is pretty special. >> three in five years, this team a dynasty? >> i think could you look at it that way. two years ago when we won it we looked at it that way. if we can put a stamp on it,i think it's pretty special. >> does this ever get old? >> it never gets old. look at this, it doesn't get old. >> for the royals it was definitely a disappointing ending.
they were on the verge of completing one of the greatest runs in professional sports history. the fans sad they didn't win it all, but still very proud of this team. >> can't even believe believe >> can't even believe it. it's just -- we're just happy to have been here, obviously, it's pretty surreal. >> it was great to get here, but heartbroken, i wish we could have seen the win. >> guys, i was hoping for a "new day" party in the parking lot this morning, but as can you see, it's pretty somber. the only party was in the giants' clubhouse, lots of champaign going everywhere. i still reek of it. >> were you wearing your protective gear. wow. >> that's fantastic. >> i went and bought a chiefs poncho. because i knew that was going to happen. >> were there a lot of san francisco giants fans there in kansas city? i wonder. >> there was a lot of friends
and family and would you see them speckled into the stadium. because everyone in kansas city was wearing blue. so the orange definitely stuck out. >> that's fantastic. what a win, i'm so excited. >> kansas city is back. they've had a long dry spell of being in contention, so they have a lot to be proud about. unlike andy scholes. wearing the slick anywhere the locker room? that's a violation. and you were complaining on twitter about getting champagne in your eyes? come on, andy. >> what about the players that were wearing goggles, you're not going to call them violating man love. >> that's part of the esthetic because they're getting sprayed in the face. >> don't worry about it. >> when that first boom happened and all the champagne went everywhere, i took it right in both my eyes and nearly hit the floor. >> come on. >> it was brutal. >> have you had champagne in your eyes? >> i've had a lot of champagne in my eyes. and i take it, my eyes burn, i get fuzzy vision and i like it.
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an investigation this morning to determine what caused the catastrophic explosion that destroyed this unmanned nasa rocket. investigators from the nasa, from nasa and the orbital sciences, the company that built the rocket, are assessing the wreckage and trying to figure out what went wrong. cnn's athena jones is live in wallops island in virginia with the latest. >> good morning, alisyn. some 50 to 60 people were out looking for potentially thousands of pieces of debris from the exploded rocket yesterday. they'll be out again today. it's a big job, one that could potentially eventually include people diving into the waters in the marshlands around here to get to some of the pieces. it's all part of an effort to find out what went wrong. picking up the pieces in wallops island, virginia. [ bleep ] [ bleep ] after a
massive explosion tuesday night, destroyed a rocket heading to the international space station. >> three, two, one. >> it was 6:22 p.m., launch time for orbital sciences antares rocket. but just seconds after lift-off, a catastrophic failure that stunned eye witnesses. >> oh, god! >> we saw the rocket starting up and everything was looking good for the first couple seconds. and then it was fairly quickly you could see something is wrong. >> the $200 million rocket and the cargo space craft was carrying 5,000 pounds of food, supplies and science experiments. teams from orbital, nasa and mars space port spent wednesday searching for and collecting debris. >> it helps them reconstruct what happened. >> orbital will leave the accident investigation, working with nasa and others. the review is only just beginning, company officials said on a conference call with investors. >> well we still have a lot of
work to do in the days ahead to analyze all of the telemetry and video data. to review the recollections and notes of the participants in the operation. >> thompson said the engines used in the rocket's propulsion system have caused technical problems in the past and that while its too soon to blame them for the explosion, the company was already planning to replace that system. >> you go into a different mode, the mode of all right, let's figure out what happened. >> another company, united launch alliance successfully launched a gps satellite from cape canaveral wednesday, proof that things go right more often ha than they go wrong. now orbital says they expect the investigation team to be able to narrow down the most likely causes of the accident. but it will take a little longer to zero in on the single root cause. and the company says it's still too soon to say how long the next launch, set for early april, might be delayed, because of this accident. chris?
>> all right athena, thank you very much. let's bring in cnn space analyst and pbs science krobt miles o'brien. the obvious curiosity here is in why this happened. but the reason it matters goes beyond this one event, right? nasa has had problems before with things they've designed, catastrophic problems. but this goes to the question of who should be making the rockets, right? do you believe this offers an insight into that? >> well you know a few generations ago, chris, we called it a missile gap. there's a bit of a dearth of u.s. capability in this sector if you will. chemical rockets that can take vehicles of this size to space, by and large are coming from russia these days, in the mid '90s, a decision was made in congress and by the administration at the time to purchase a lot of russian rocket engines there was some concern that russian rocket scientists would sell their wares to north korea, let's say. so the commercial space industry
became very reliant mostly on this rd-180 engine. >> isn't that an old engine? >> a larger engine. and that has put the commercial sector here in a bind. >> isn't that an older engine? is that part of the calculus here in terms of what's going on. even though we always think innovation when we think space, in fact there's a lot of older technology still at play? >> there's always a trade-off between the amount you want to put into research and development and the actual cost and this was an effort on the part of nasa to try to foster a commercial enterprise in low-earth orbit so a decision was made by the company involved in this case, orbital sciences, not to invest maybe a half billion dollars in the development of a new engine. instead to purchase these 40-year-old engines that sat in a warehouse for a long time, refurbish them with the use of a company aerojet as part of it. so there was money saved doing that, clearly. but sometimes maybe you got to do the groundwork and do the r&d
to get something that's safe and reliable. >> help me understand it, because for me, space is always about the new frontier and pushing the limits. and expressly about research and development. not like they have to keep the trains on time up there. did we make a bad call going towards private industry? should we still be in the space game? was this a mistake? >> well i think it's a good idea for nasa 0 to be looking beyond low-earth orbit. the big picture here is, nasa shouldn't be spending its time and resources essentially driving trucks to the international space station or low-earth orbit. they should be thinking about going to mars, that's what we pay nasa to do at this point. after all of these years going to low-earth orbit. it's time to figure out a way for the private sector to do this more autonomously. it's tricky getting from point a to point b. there's going to be missteps along the way as this is forged. you look at what has happened
with space-x, the california-based company. run by elon musk. they built their own rockets, so far they've been successful. so it can be done. >> it's kind of sad in a way, miles. space was started as an initiative to push human potential and see what else was out there. now in just seems like it's being done low-budget. let's get to the good news in this situation. people are worried about the astronauts up in the space station, they're okay, they have provisions, right? >> yeah, they're fine. even if we couldn't get a freighter to them until march, they would be fine and we just had one arrive from russia safely just yesterday. and we've got two space-x launches coming up in december and february, they'll be fine. >> maybe the new kerfuffle between the u.s. and russia will make them rethink how much they do at home. miles o'brien thank you very much. when we find out more we'll come back to you. the freelance nbc cameraman who contracted ebola in west africa tells us what it was like
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times following a speech he was giving at a conference. he is in serious but stable condition. israel's prime minister calls for increased police presence while officials hunt for the gunman. back at home, nurse kaci hickox vowing to fight state officials in maine seeking a court order to keep her quarantined at home. she says she's not a risk to the public having tested ebola twice since returning home from treating infected patients in west africa. she's on record saying she won't follow the isolation order. attorney general eric holder adding fuel to the fire in ferguson. he said the need for wholesale change in the city's police department is pretty clear. but he did not say what those changes would be. these comments come after reports surfaced of a possible shake-up at the ferguson police department, including the possible resignation of chief thomas jackson who has been under fire since the shooting of
the unarmed teenager, michael brown. it is molten hot, it can destroy anything in its path and it is now just yards away from homes this morning. the hawaiian national guard asking residents on the big island to get out as lava from the kilauea volcano inches closer to a major road, hundreds of frantic residents in pahoa. this is quite a discovery, really, an amazing breakthrough, a small piece of metal found or discovered back in 1991 may very well be part of amelia earhart's missing airplane. a 19 x 23-inch fragment found in kirabati, the southwest pacific republic. they believe it came from the windo of earhart's airplane. this is the first time any wreckage han linked to the final expedition, the failed attempt to circumnavigate the earth 77 years ago. it took them a long time to
match the logo on that piece of the plane to photographs they had. but it's really amazing. then instead of crashing into the ocean like many believe happened, it points to the fact that maybe they crashed on that island. and survived as cast-aways. it's fascinating. i'm kind of obsessed. >> i'll look forward to hearing more about that from you. let's get over to meteorologist indra petersons who is tracking the weather. >> so close, yes we had showers on the east coast but that's not going to be the big story. you can see the system currently making its way offshore. we're looking at a little bit of swirl, it doesn't look like much. but this is the big story. if you're in the know, you know by the way these clouds look. very spotty. very cold air that is going to be making its way in. now if you're in the east coast they say yeah, there's a ten-degree drop, that's not that bad. that's not the story. we're talking about even colder filling in.
so much so by the time we get to thursday, friday, saturday, even sunday, some flurries are going to be spreading from the midwest all the way in through the northeast. and some places we talk about west virginia, kentucky, could be talking about several inches of the white stuff so there you go, here comes the chill. look what we're talking about by saturday, think about friday night in through saturday. here comes the heaviest amounts of snow that will be affecting a lot of us. let's talk about the temperature change. today, not so bad, right? let's drop you into tomorrow, about 20 degrees, you talk about st. louis seeing highs into the 40s and this is halloween. this is your high, this is not your low. when the trick-or-treaters have to go outside. by saturday, there goes the cold air swirling into the northeast so yes, who's going to have the roughest time? places in michigan, the little kids will be going out with wind chills below freezing. even in l.a. we'll be having sprinkles. and then that's beyond horrible and then in the northeast, also a couple of sprinkles out here. but below freezing going out trick-or-treating. >> you could go as andy scholes
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what the illness feels like? >> i want to find ways to help people understand it. but it's nothing, it's like nothing that i had ever experienced. >> pain? >> yeah, there was pain. certainly muscle pain. muscle aches, very high fever. i think at one point my fever was at 104. but i think the thing that was pronounced for me was the physical weakness, i used to see people who would be laying in front of treatment centers, trying to get admitted and they're just laying out in the ground in the gravel, in the sun and i used to look at them and say my god, you can't sit up at least? and then once i was sick, i completely understood, you have absolutely no energy to walk three feet feels like you just ran a marathon. >> how did you get it? >> my feeling, and i'll never know this, for 100% certainty is that i touched an infected surface in one of the high-risk areas i was and didn't chlorinate fast enough before i touched my face.
>> kaci hickox who is a nurse says she's back in maine now and she says you know what, i don't feel like i should in quarantine, i'm not, i'm asymptomatic and this is, you know in violation of my rights and she's says she's going to do what she wants to do. >> good for her. she's earned the right to, have a sense of her own safety and risk factors to others and i don't think dr. spencer endangered anyone. my feeling is i'm not an expert, this is my own view on the exposure that i've had to ebola. i think that governor christie's playing politics to me. it seems to me an effort to you know, work with public opinion rather than listen to the advice of the experts. i just think it's counterproductive, these are people who have endangered their lives to work with people who have very limited resources and are dieing in relatively large numbers, to make it more difficult and to treat them as if they're a potential problem as opposed to a public asset. i think it's a shame.
>> well, his success story. he survived, thanks to all the great medical care he got here at home. >> two questions that are raised. one, he really doesn't know how he got it. if it did come from him just touching a surface that had infectious stuff on it. it feeds the fear perception of how it may be easier to get. and there's a growing dimension of this. why having ebola now makes you somebody who is able to speak about the issue and the quarantine and the politics. you know, i don't know exactly how far the relevance extends. >> lots of people are talking about the policy. people who haven't had ebola. >> are you an expert on quarantines because you had an ebola? >> no, but he has an opinion. as do so many people about this subject. he's waying in. >> my kids accuse the others of having ebola it doesn't get you out of homework. >> i would say that's a low likelihood. but you may want to wear a hazmat suit at home.
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welcome back to "new day," five days until mid-term elections and so many key races going down to the wire. for democrats, it could be a considerable challenge to hold ground in the house while keeping control of the senate. new york congressman steve israel is the chairman of the democratic congressional campaign committee and joins us now, good morning. >> thanks for having me on. >> we know you're busy, a busy week, you've been working around the clock to raise money for democrats in some very tight races and we hear it's been a heavy lift this year. how is it going? >> i'm not going to sugar-coat it. it's tough out there. every morning when i wake up, i wake up to the number 29, the historic average loss for a president's party in the mid-term election. the president's part historically loses 29 seats in the second mid-term. even ronald reagan at the height of his popularity lost seats in
the second mid-term. i don't think we're looking at a 29-seat loss, but the terrain is tough, the good news is as a result of our strategies, every single one of our incumbents around the country is competitive, either ahead of the polls, within the margin of error but not one democratic incumbent is down or out. >> let's test the theory. think, i grew up in your district, you know what you're going to expect from a guy from queens. that is unprecedented. you have so many races that are so close. you probably won't lose 29, you're right. you got like, what are the numbers, 23 in jeopardy. as opposed to four republicans and the comparative argument is easy. kwun you want to make, us versus the them. do you think in good conscious the democrats can look to the american people and in good conscience say, you should vote us in. >> do you think in good conscious you could look at the american people and say vote for
us. every election is about priorities and who's got your back and on virtually every issue like pay equity for women, and minimum wage and investing in infrastructure to create jobs, the american people agree with us. we've got to translate that into victories in six days, and that's tough terrain. >> people's feelings about congress, it asked for the approval rating. and basically congress got a 13% approval rating from respondents, 85% disapprove of the job being done in congress. how do you funds with those numbers? >> well first of all, i don't blame people. there's a debate over whether we should quarantine medical professionals. a lot of people think we should quarantine congress as a public service. >> it's incurable what congress has. >> people believe congress's numbers are so low you had a republican majority, that tried to shut down the government over a woman's right to go to planned parenthood. that stacks the deck against the
middle class. >> those numbers are only republicans' fault? >> the republican majority in the united states congress is the one that shut down the congress for 16 days. now there is a sense, i think honestly of a pox on both their houses. and that's regrettable. what i tell my candidates across the country is just be about solutions. talk about what you're going to do to improve people's lives, don't talk about ideology. just talk about how you're going to provide for real-life solutions against some very significant challenges to the middle class economic security. if you do that, you have a chance in any competitive district in america. >> unless they start looking at the record. i think you guys are banged up for good reason. look at sandy. p part your district. hurricane sandy. we're making hay over governor christie shouting down a protester. you drive through your district, there are so many people who are still nowhere two years after sandy. unprecedented effort to get them back on their feet, it's a
failure because congress isn't working. and you look at your spread, cnn numbers, also, you barely statistically ahead of voters overall saying whether they'll go democrat or not. and by registration, you should be up eight points. >> for the first time in history under this republican congress, the republican congress wouldn't even allow us to vote on sandy relief aid. peter king, a republican from long island went on camera and told people vote for the democrats, he went on camera and said, my party is not doing the job in congress. when you have conservative republicans like peter king criticizing the republican leadership for not even voting on a sandy relief bill until we shame them into it, that tells you everything you need to know about the need for solutions and less politics. >> are you ignoring the fact that barack obama has been rejected by many democratic candidates this year. they don't want him campaigning for him because he's not popular. >> i'll tell you what i tell my candidates, if you're running in a blue district like nancy pelosi's, chances are voters want to make sure you've been with the president every step of
the way. if you're running in a red district. voters want to make sure you've never took a step with the president. but the districts we're running in are competitive districts, they're purple. i tell people just be those people. agree with them when you agree and disagree when you disagree, there's no ideological litmus test in these purple competitive swing districts. >> running away from the presidents, the sixth-year effect of a president and all ha. they always wind up being somewhat unpopular, but you guys are running away from the president here. doesn't that kind of just feel bad on some level? this is your man, your party, he's our president and you're running away from him. it seems like you're running scared. >> in those competitive districts, those purple districts where moderates live, centrists live. if you disagree with the president. don't run with him on your disagreements. if you agree with him, talk about those agreements. that's what most people in my district are like. they sit at the table.
they say -- there's lots i don't like about the president. there's some things i like about the president, like paying a woman the same as a man for equal work. be those people, reflect the priorities and the sensibilities of your district and you'll be fine and that's what america needs right now. >> congressman steve israel thanks so much for making time to come into the studio. we appreciate it. >> another window into how tight it is. we knee that congressman israel is trying to whip up money for races. money isn't proving to be enough in applicatipolitics, that's ho the races are. there's a lot of news this morning, so let's get to it. state officials are demanding hickox abide by their 21-day quarantine. >> it's not my intention to put anyone at risk in this community. the al qaeda offshoot corazon poses an imminent threat. >> nato has monitored an
increased number of russian flights. >> this is russian aggression. tense moments in new jersey as a heckler faced off with governor chris christie. >> you want to have the conversation later, i'm happy to have it, buddy. but until that time, sit down and shut up. on that note, good morning and welcome back to "new day," i'm alisyn camerota along with chris cuomo. will kaci hickox be allowed to leave her home in maine? or will the nurse be forced to stay inside for the remainder of her three-week ebola quarantine? hickox is challenging the state, saying she has no intention of staying inside because she's not a public health risk. she has twice tested negative for ebola since returning from west africa. meanwhile president obama has strong words for states looking to automatically quarantine health care workers on the front lines fighting ebola. >> we are covering all the angles, beginning with cnn's jean casarez in fort kent, maine. jean? >> good morning, chris, you know
we're right outside the home of hik hkaci hickox, she remains voluntarily secluded in the home. she may not be there for long, because she does not agree with the voluntarily quarantine. she says i'm symptom-free, i don't have ebola. i want to be out and about in the community. she believes the public health system here in maine what they are requiring to do is based on false medicine and hysteria. the local police chief right here in this small town does tell me that at the local hospital people were canceling their day's surgery, not coming to doctor's appointments, because they believed she would be working there. but the state of maine is saying cdc has invested in us the right to determine what is in the best welfare for the public safety. the 1.3 million residents of this state. and we believe that if someone is at high risk, that they should remain secluded in a home for a 21-day period. and today when the sun comes up.
she may come out of her house and they may go to court to get that order. >> jean, thanks so much for that meanwhile, president obama was surrounded at the white house on wednesday, by health care professionals, many of whom just back from west africa for the less than the 21-day incubation period for ebola. the president said they should not be treated as pariahs, but heroes, we want to bring in cnn's chief medical krobt, dr. sanjay gupta. >> the president was really talking a lot about the fact that he believes that the idea of quarantining people, once they return, would discourage them from going back. that's how a lot of scientists we talk to have seen it as well. dr. kent brantly, ask them specifically, drill down on this issue of what is it like when you get back?
what's the rationale for quarantine. we talked about dr. craig spencer. take a listen to dr. brantly. >> i think the important thing to remember is that people even who have been exposed to ebola do not transmit the disease. they don't shed the virus until they are febrile and symptomatic. i think dr. spencer was, i think he ultimately, he did what was right. how he was feeling in those two days, i don't know that i can even put myself in his shoes. my situation was totally different. >> i ask, because i think it's one of those areas as a doctor myself. that's a little bit gray, right? i mean it's not a binary thing, you don't suddenly become infectious at a particular minute at a particular hour. but if someone was feeling sluggish after having done this work, this is the question that people are asking. he's unlikely to have transmitted the virus, but out of an abundance of caution, should he have stayed away from
people? >> i think dr. spencer have done the right thing. i think those who come after him will be even more cautious, because they've seen the response that happened when following the guidelines in place for him. >> he's saying look, the science doesn't support the fact that dr. spencer was going to get other people sick. but people are scared. let's not completely dismiss those fears. because that's a problem as well. so he said people are likely to be more cautious. but he didn't say that he supports quarantines. >> this is exactly the conundrum that the nurse in maine is facing, she doesn't want to be self-quarantined for 21 days inside the house, what do you make of this? >> she's made that very, very clear. you know i think that her parent organization, the doctors without borders say she doesn't need to be quarantined. the centers for disease control say she doesn't need to be quarantined. i want to show you a picture that i took when i was at the white house. an interesting case, i don't know if we have the image, a split sort of dichotomy you're seeing. on the left side you see these doctors who just come back from
west africa. they're within the 21-day period. they are at the white house with the president of the united states. on the right, you have kaci hickox, who fits the same profile. came back within the last 21 days, no symptoms, she's facing mandatory quarantine. that's what america looks like right now when people think about how we're dealing with ebola. it's unbelievable. you have the white house with the president, mandatory quarantine. they fit the same profile. >> stark contrast, two different options for how to handle people. that's really telling. >> and the states, different states, depending on what state you live in, you could be treated completely differently. >> sanjay, thanks so much for the information and your perspective. let's talk more about this with chris. >> sanjay seems to have completely isolated the problem. we don't know what we're doing. let's try to get more now on what the direction forward is when it comes to an ebola quarantine. this maine nurse refusing to abide by a state order to remain in isolation for 21 days has
become somewhat of a flashpoint. officials believe the law is on their side. they think they can keep kaci hickox confined. let's listen to the nurse's reaction to understand the state of play. >> we have been in negotiations all day with the state of maine. and tried to resolve this amicably. but they will not allow me to leave my house and have any interaction with the public. even though i am completely healthy and symptom-free. i am frustrated by this fact and i have been told that the attorney general's intention is to file legal action against me. and if this does occur, then i will challenge those legal actions. >> all right. so that's the nurse. let's bring in congressman tim murphy. he is the chairman of the house subcommittee on oversight and investigations. he is calling for a mandatory 21-day quarantine for any health care worker who treats ebola
patients and then returns to the u.s. congressman, thank you for joining us this morning. to test the situation. do you have the legal right federal? no, but state, yes. is it right to do? that's the question. why is this the right thing to do when science tells you it is unnecessary? >> well, let's look at what we know and what we don't know. a person who has not been exposed to someone with ebola, virtually no chance you're going to get it. a person who has been exposed to a patient with ebola increases that risk. many have gotten sick, many have died. and in several cases, not quite clear of the exact route of that. now, it doesn't mean that a person who is totally asymptomatic has no chance whatsoever of transmitting something. and what has happened in the last few weeks is the cdc has sent out guidelines that they had to walk back on. some are confusing, regarding exposure risks, the equipment
you should be wearing. and still we have a situation where there's no cure, there's no vaccine. so what governors have responded to is says look, this is still ambiguous, there's mixed messages coming out of washington, how to handle this. their first goal is to make sure they protect the health of residents of their state. the other part of this is we're still not ready. hospitals around the united states, less than a handful have the ability to treat ebola patients it can overwhelm other hospitals at this point we don't have mechanisms to transport ebola patients through air, et cetera, because those things are still existing, these things are still evolving. >> leadership hasn't been great on it. why aren't you focusing on your second issue? that one matters, are hospitals ready, is there enough oversite. are you doing the right precautionary measures, testing it, vetting it. i think it's hemful. when you're dealing with a quarantine. isn't it just pandering, that
people are afraid, there was political opportunity here to exploit that fear. and now you're dealing with sgs, even though no one in the medical field believes is worthwhile. because while you're exposed to ebola patients, that's true. you're dealing with when people are a risk to others and even miss hickox, she can't get anybody sick like that mr. dumpgen, may he rest in peace. those people who were in the house with him when he was sick as hell, none of them got sick. >> we have to make sure we're not dealing with this emotionally. that's a great question you're asking, chris. what i believe the first thing you do while we are still learning, you start with a stronger perimeter of defense. then you make case-by-case rulings on this as it goes through. are we reaching that level? perhaps, where people can make that determination. now by quarantine, you doan have someone sealed in a plastic bubble and with no contact whatsoever. you can do also a lot of monitoring and some levels of
isolation. you look at hospitals at this point. they are not, they do not want the doctors and nurses who have recently been in africa coming back and treating patients at their hospitals right away. they're doing other kind of job restriction does go with this, too. are we ready, are states ready? let's focus on making sure we follow in an area where there's still a great deal of uncertainty. >> why don't you just leave the quarantine issue alone. why is that the headline this morning? i brought you on here to talk about what you want for a 21-day mandatory quarantine. why not ignore that, seeing how it's not a practical problem in our society. but preparedness is. and certainly, given relt tiff lack of commitment that we and other countries have sloan to west africa, we will see more cases here, because we're not stopping it where it is coming from. >> well you're asking several things here. we have a strong commitment to help africa. >> we need more, though. you know we need a lot more. >> absolutely.
and i, and i believe we're all committed to do that. we should be sending lots of supplies, do everything we can. because that's where it has to be cape ontained. but this virus, you only break the chain of movement by having some levels of isolation. i sent the president nine different recommendations, some of those are taking place, we still have a long way to go we're speeding up vaccine research. we're moving forward in trying to identify more hospitals, we're moving forward, but not there yet with transport mechanisms. in the meantime, i think one should move with an abundance of safety. like the military is doing that, too. let's be careful as we move forward. can you always walk it back, but you can't rebuild these things once it has spread. this is not any kind of personal or emotional attack on anybody at all. this is saying, our first issue is here is do no harm. protect public health. let's review each case. that is something the cdc is also recommending as well. but in case before when they said the personal protective
gear was fine. it turned out not to be true. so i say we have a lot of intensive work to do in this. we should not let up in any way and let's review this as it has to do with the spread of a disease. >> worried about the chilling effect you're going to have on people who would have volunteered and now won't because they don't want to be subject to a quarantine? >> well, look, programs like samaritan's purse, have had this program in place for a while where you restrict movements for 21 days after. when i talk to hospitals they say they don't want that doctor or nurse coming back on board to medical staff for full active duties for 21 days. the issue with regard to getting enough doctors and nurses into ebola countries is hard enough in itself. and we need to get more people there and encourage them. but we also have to make sure that this other issue, and doctors and nurses understand this that i talk to. they say look, we don't want to increase risks to the community. let's be cautious, let's have an abundance of caution. but let's not make this an
emotional issue that we're being unfair to someone. that's not it at all. we have to be fair to the citizens of the united states in making sure we're very careful. review each person carefully. see what kind of exposure they've had. let's not make blanket statements and say all should be allowed until some symptoms appear. i'm not saying no one should be allowed. we should have caution as we proceed. >> congressman tim murphy. given the controversy, the job is to test the position, thank you for allowing us to do that on "new day." mick, over to you. ten minutes past the hour, a look at your headlines -- rebel leaders say more than half of kobani is now under the control of isis extremists. even though hundreds of kurdish fighters have been sent in to defend the town. u.s.-led air strikes apparently, seemingly unable to drive isis militants out. complete control of kobani would give the terrorists a key strategic corridor along the syria/turkey border. a government official in sri
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plotting an attack on the u.s. right now. our pentagon correspondent barbara starr is here with details. that was the big headline out of that. that's why it was done. and now, how did they get it so wrong? >> good morning, chris. i got to tell you our own pamela brown and myself all day yesterday being told the same thing by administration officials, they're working on the belief that both men survived the attack. here's what they don't know. were they never there to begin with with? or did the tomahawk missiles just miss them? two men, two names to remember, mussan al fadli and david drujean, a french jihadist. the khorasan are in reality a bunch of al qaeda operatives in pakistan. they want to attack the united states. drujean has expertise in bomb-making, he can run jihadists in and out of syria, back to europe and the united
states. what the khorasan group wants to do is build those bombs that ca. that is the big worry, that's why this is such a problem. the khorasan group still the u.s. says, poses an imminent threat to the u.s. alisyn? >> barb remarks thanks so much. we want to talk more about that, plus this warning from nato to russia, to stop flying into the air space of other countries over a 24-hour period. ending just yesterday. nato nations documented at least 19 instances of russian planes flying in european skies and multiple countries had to scramble jets to respond. nato said this year alone, intercepts of russian arkircraf are up 300%. let's bring in retired former commanding general for europe and the seventh army. general, great to see you. >> good morning, alisyn. >> let's start with barbara starr's reporting. what's happening with the khorasan lead sners. >> i think in the first strike in syria, we may have or we may
not have had the best of intelligence. and again, it's something we've talked about several times. you have to have confirming intelligence for overhead platforms. you have to have someone on the ground. and sometimes truthfully, people move. right before a strike and it takes a little bit of a while for the missile to get there. so i think as the pentagon is conducting the post analysis of this event, they're finding some things that they might not have had a perfect targeting execution. >> leaving people alive to survive and fight another day, is even more troubling than had the u.s. not tried to hit them to begin with. >> it is indeed. one of the things you have to consider is even had we struck against the leaders of the khorasan organization, the organization is still going to be somewhat intact. even though they don't have the leaders we found fighting al qaeda, they replaced their leaders very quickly. there still is the threat of these nonmetallic bomb systems.
we're continuing to fight this effort. as we've said so many times before, this is going to be a long war. >> we want to move on to what russia is doing this week. there have been 19 instances of russian aircraft flying over european air space. just this week alone. what is happening there? >> well, what i say is those 19 incidents were just yesterday, wednesday, they've, nato has observed over 100 scrambles against russian incursions into nato territory. there have been several nato jets flying, uk, norway, denmark, several others that have intercepted bombers, fighters, tankers, all sorts of russian airplanes. and the things that they're doing are just things that good nations don't do. they're turning off their trance po transponders while in flight, not filing flight planes, things that are very concerning and the allied air command in germany is monitoring that closely. this is something that a good nation doesn't do.
>> what is putin up to? what's the end game here? >> we can't just take by the way, what is putin up to, i think he's doing a couple things. i think it was winston churchill said russia is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma. he's attempting to intimidate the west. he doesn't like the sanctions. we can't just take these air incursions all by themselves, too. we've seen ground incursions in some of the baltic states, estonia, latvia have reported that. the swedish sub incident. we don't know what occurred there. hackers at the white house, is that russian influence or not? not trying to drum up concern about russia at large, but i think this is mr. putin saying hey we've suffered some economic sanctions for his own public consumption, he's saying we're still powerful. that's very important part in whatever he does. but it's also saying to the west, we're still standing up against you. >> you have spent a lot of time in that region and you have
contacts still in that region. i know you speak to the leaders of countries around there. what is their feeling about what putin is doing and how nato should respond? >> i'm going to ukraine in a couple weeks. what you see when you talk to the leadership in georgia and poland and estonia, in ukraine, they keep telling me, see, we told you so when you were over here. and we knew this. any military leader, any diplomatic leader has to treat russia with a great deal of kid gloves, they do strange things sometimes. you have to look at it from the appeal of their culture. they've been intimidated by the west. they've been intimidated by many of their former warsaw pact countries joining nato. i think that's all part of the equation. you just not only have to look at it from what the nato interest is and what the european interest is, but also what the russian interest is and the sanctions against russia are incredibly damaging to them. i think this is an attempt of
putin to push back. >> we only have a few more seconds, what is the answer, if not sanctions? >> i think we continue to do what we're doing. we continue to send up responses and jets when they interfere in nato air space, we continue with the sanctions. we keep a close look on what's going on in ukraine. ukraine had their elections earlier this week and we continue to try to help the new government there. to undergo their procedures toward a representative form of government. and we don't allow russia to intimidate. that's the key. we do not allow them to intimidate the west. >> great to get your insight, general mark hertling great to see you. sit down and shut up. very few times that is deemed okay to say. was this one of them? when new jersey governor chris christie took on a protester, he wound up giving the guy more attention than he ever imagined he would get. a window into the intensity in the ongoing campaigns, mid-terms five days away, john king host of cnn's "inside politics,"
welcome back to "new day," here's a look at the headlines at 27 minutes past the hour. nurse kaci hickox says she is completely healthy. with no sign or symptoms of ebola. and will challenge any legal action by the state of maine to keep her holed up at home until the end of a three-week quarantine. hickox says she's tested negative for ebola twice since her return from treating infected patients in west africa. state officials are trying for a court order to enforce her
isolation. we're seeing more pictures of north korean leader, kim jong-un, he was out of the public eye for weeks. south korean intelligence said he had a painful ankle cyst removed. a couple of recent photos show him overseeing a flight drill. still using a cane. an update now, britney maynard, the 29-year-old with terminal brain cancer saying now is not the time to die. in an emotional video released to cnn, she says november 1st the initial date she set to end her life is too soon. she says there's too much joy in her life right now. but a decision will come soon. because she is getting sicker by the day. maynard is choosing to die by taking medication under oregon's death with dignity act. i had to revel in this for one second, look at the joy on that man's face, the san francisco giants are world series champs, beating the kansas city royals 3-2 in a decisive seventh game. the third championship in the past five years.
you could barely see for all the champagne. left-hander mad bum. or madison bumgarner tossing five scoreless innings in relief to pick up the win, the third of the series, named world series mvp. >> may be the best pitcher in world series history. mad bum. >> look, he brprobably got teas as a kid. >> not no more. i'll tell you what, game seven made it much more interesting and that's where we are with the mid-term elections, it's a legit segue, there's so many races that are so close. let's bring in john king to get "inside politics" on "new day." in manchester new hampshire. that could be a surprise situation. let's see with a metaphor for how intense the elections are. your man governor chris christie. let's roll what he was
confronted with something. >> i got the picture, i read it. your, yeah, you do yours, too, buddy. so -- we -- we know -- yeah, we know. we know. now, listen -- you all know me, so if we're going to get into a debate here today, it's going to get very interesting and very fun. so, yeah, i understand. i've been more than happy to have a debate with you any time, you like, guy, because somebody like you doesn't know a damn thing about what you're talking about, is except to stand up and show off when the cameras are here. i've been here when the cameras aren't here, buddy and did the work. so -- i'm glad had you your day to show off. but we're the ones who are here to actually do the work. so turn around, get your 15 minutes of fame and then maybe take your jacket off, roll up your sleeves and do something for the people of this state.
so we'll see. now listen, everybody, what we need -- i grew up in, good. >> there's been 23 months since then when all you've been doing is flapping your mouth and not doing anything. you want to have the conversation later, i'm happy to have it, buddy. but until that time, sit down and shut up. >> truth is, john, as you well know, sandy relief has been woefully inadequate. tons of families still displaced. this is also not that unusual. there's a lot of hostility in campaigns right now out on the hustings and that's where you are. >> and this is chris christie style, chris, as he hits the road, campaigning it looks like he's going full steam ahead to run for president in 2016. this is the big test. he won re-election in new jersey. so people around chris christie say people like this, it's indearing, they like that he's combative, proud of his state. he gives it as well as he gets it. in the state of new jersey it's worked for him.
the question is, when he comes here, to the state of new hampshire, where do you a lot of town halls, where he goes out to iowa and campaign in the caucuses, will it seem presidential? will it travel with him if you will? it might be appealing to enough people in new jersey to win re-election. but do the people of iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and beyond, do they find it presidential or bullying? do they find it endearing, or a fresh face or too much, too tough? that will be the big question is chris christie, can he take what has worked for him in new jersey and does he have to change it as he goes on to iowa and new hampshire. you see less of that when he travels now, helping candidates in 2014. make no mistake. the democrats know this they think it's a weakness, even though he's used it as a strength. guess what, opponents of christie, both republicans and democrats are going to show up at those town halls if he runs for president and try to provoke him. >> i've never known if new jersey plays in iowa. i've wondered that. it really plays in new jersey but maybe it is only unto
itself. >> does that explain why you're so harsh with me at times? >> a little bit, yes. >> people are so tired of politics as usual. in some ways it's authentic and refreshing, like everything, there's a line and a limit. how does he bottle what's worked in one environment and take it into other different environments and decide how much of it to use. >> let's talk about your environment, you're in new hampshire what are you finding on the ground? what's the mood? >> this is one of again, one of the more fascinating states. there's, we're going to have wonderful chess play next tuesday. we started the year thinking huge republican advantage when you look at the map. key senate states, the biggest prize in the election is control of the united states senate. but new hampshire is one of the blue states, president obama won here handily twice. scott brownance, the former republican senator from massachusetts has moved to new hampshire, he's in a dead heat with the incumbent jean shaheen. here she finds herself in a dead heat with a few days to go. like here in new hampshire, iowa is another blue state the
president carried twice. colorado is a state the president carried twice. i called them the blues, at first they were the bonuses for republicans. if republicans could pick up those that meant they were having a huge night. now when you have places like kansas, places like georgia and even places like kentucky, potential republican seats that could be taken away by democrats, these blue states are critical. republicans need to get at least a couple of them to protect their math. and it's interesting in the dead heat state, people get the license plates in new hampshire, the motto is live free or die. listen to rand paul trying to come to the rescue. rand paul trying to help scott brown in the final days. >> if you're a freedom-loving, liberty-loving, leave me the hell alone voter, i urge you to get out and vote for scott brown this tuesday to change washington, change your senator. >> wow. >> one of many examples where guys who have an eye on 2016 trying to build a name in 2014 as well. >> i wonder if eel try to steal
christie's thunder and combine it. leave me the hell alone, sit down and shut up. now but are you seeing something interesting emerging. john's the pro. but so many praises, so close, bringing in the big names. if you can sway something right now, that's momentum into 2016. hillary clinton in iowa, talking jobs and jeb bush coming back and talking to her, a nice preview of what's going on there. a nice little sidebar, what we're seeing. >> do we have, do we have the jeb bush sound? >> yeah, let's play the sound first, i wanted your comment. i care more about you. >> i saw something that was breathtaking, a candidate, a former secretary of state, who was campaigning in massachusetts, where she said that don't let them tell you that businesses create jobs. well the problem in america today is that not enough jobs are being created.
>> now secretary clinton to be clear later corrected that comment. she said what she meant was she doesn't like republican policies of just giving tax breaks to businesses hoping they'll create jobs. she said of course businesses create jobs, but she doesn't like the republican tax policy. the big question is jeb bush taking hillary clinton on directly. that's something we've seen rand paul do, and marco rube yo and ted cruz do. should we taek thke that as a t leaf? >> what's the answer? >> i think he's leaning more in. but you don't find anybody, the key for me, do you find somebody here who is an active organizer in the republican party who says i got a call on my birthday from jeb bush or anniversary, is he starting to do that yet? no. is he meeting with fundraisers? is he starting to organize? his son says that the family is okay with it. so he's moving forward. but he hasn't taken the big
final plunge yet. i think we're almost out of time. i want you guys to know, the the bookers got hillary clinton on the show, president obama to come on the show. we're having a little fun, i'm at the institute for politics in new hampshire. you guys have any questions? >> no, your bookers are impressive. wow. >> your bookers are really good. >> they're at cross-purpose there is, the two of them. >> i hope i like the cardboard candidates or not. >> they don't say much. great to see you on "inside politics." quarantine controversy -- a maine nurse fighting her in-home quarantine, saying her civil liberties are being violated. is that state going too far? we'll talk live with an expert who has been training health care workers in west africa. women kidnapped and raped by isis. one young victim's heart-wrenching story. what's at stake in this war.
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i completely understand that the state's purpose is to protect the state of maine. vy worked in public health for many years and that has always been my purpose as well. but we have to make decisions on science. and i am completely healthy. you know you could hug me, you could shake my hand. there is no way that i would give you ebola. >> that was nurse kaci hickox vowing to challenge any attempt by the state of maine to isolate her against her will. she says she has been symptom-free as you heard since returning from africa where she was treating ebola patients, she believes her civil liberties are being violated by forcing her into quarantine. joining me from dubai is shawn
kaufman who has been training health care workers to combat ebola in liberia and headed up infection control during the successful treatments of dr. kent brantly and nancy writebol. i'm curious, given the work you've done in west africa and you returned here to american america, you're in dubai right now. i wonder, shawn, as a man who trains health care workers, what would you do if you were in kaci hickox' position? >> well i think the very first thing i would do is maybe you know kind of give the instigator a little bit of a lesson, saying why don't you sit down and shut up and listen to your own advice. you know, look, governor christie started a very dangerous trend here. and we are now having public health decisions being made by lawmakers and politicians, and to be honest with you, i sure wish that i could give up my public health experience and start making political decisions
as well. because i think it's horrible. we are chasing shadows and ghosts and not making decisions based on fact. so i absolutely am shocked at what i'm seeing. >> i'm going to play devil's advocate and push back on you a little bit here. the fact is the medical bodies, the cdc for example, they can't enforce their guidelines, they're not an enforcement body. so it is going to rely on the political realm and the legal realm to enforce those things. you have said on our show originally that the cdc guidelines were too lax. help me understand the disconnect. >> cdc's guidelines are something that aren't too lax. in fact they're based in science. and it's what we see in the states that are becoming a little bit too rigid, i mean for goodness sake, let's put barbed wire fence around the houses, bring some tanks 0 out and secure the individuals coming home from west africa, because
they're such a huge risk to the general public. the reralt is, they're not. the greatest risk right now to us is the fact that the states are taking away our civil liberties, they're taking our right away to live a life. we're not a risk to people. yet they're basing their decisions on things that are not factual. they're basing it on fear and they're taking away our civil rights. >> is there a chance that kaci hickox could develop a symptom within the 21 days? and be sickened from ebola? do you believe that? is there a chance? >> look, absolutely, kaci could get sick. but the best question that needs to be focused on is kaci a risk to others if she gets sick? based on what i've seen and what i know about kaci, she would be the very first to isolate herself and prevent her illness from spreading to anyone else. >> i mean there's a lot of lingering confusion. i think some of the confusion comes from some of the messages that we're receiving.
i want to show a picture, i know you might not have a monitor, i'll try to describe it as best i can, sean. sanjay gupta showed us a picture from an event yesterday where the president was addressing health care workers, they're standing right behind him. they're within the 21-day period and are asymptomatic, and on the other side is kaci hickox quarantined at her home, well that was when she was in the tent. she is now in quarantine. there is so much confusion and discrepancy. why do you think that is and how do we get past it? >> i'm extremely proud of our president for making a statement. look, you know, thomas huxley once said, it is not who is right, but what is right is of the greatest importance. when public health policy is being decided by scientific fact. i applaud the president for doing what he did. that's leadership, standing up and making a statement. not out of fear. because i'm sure the president respects ebola and is afraid of
it. but he's making a decision in public health out of facts and i respect that tremendously. >> sean kaufman, we appreciate you. you're very vocal about the work that needs to be done both here in the united states and western africa. we appreciate you joining us as always. alisyn? >> very disturbing story to tell you about. women taken hostage by isis, the terrorists using them as sex slaves. wait until you hear the torture that one young victim says she endured.
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but the truth is, it is mainly about the burst of -- women, often young, humiliated, battered, kidnapped and worse. ra raped repeatedly by members of isis and used as sex slaves. ivan watson spoke to a young victim and brings us her horrifying and even worse, not uncommon story. ivan. >> that's right. this is not an easy story to tell. not only because it's so barbaric, but also because the scale of it. in august when isis attacked into new areas and drove hundreds of thousands of iraqis from minority yezidi group fleeing in exodus, they also took thousands of yezidi women hostage. many of them have still been held. we got to speak to one woman who was rescued. jana was a 19-year-old high school senior with dream of becoming a doctor. when isis first came to her village.
>> they came to the village and said you have to convert to islam and we will kill you. >> jana, not her real name, is from the village of kotra, which was surrounded by isis last august. soon after, she says isis ordered the entire village to go to the school where they separated the men from the women. according to a united nations report, isis gathered all males older than 10 years of age, took them out with pick up trucks and shot them. >> they separated the girls and women who had children and the old women. they took us girls to mosul, to a big, three-story house. >> she says there were hundreds of girls in the house and they got visits from the men of isis. >> they came to the room and looked around at the girls and
if they liked one, they chose her and took her. if the girls cried and didn't want to leave, they beat the girl. the guy who chose me was 70 years old and he took me to his house. there were four yezidi girls there already. they hit us and didn't give us enough to eat or drink. he put me in a room and put a gun to my head and i was on the ground and he said i will kill you because you won't convert to islam. that night, they came and took an 11-year-old girl away and when she came back, she told me they raped her. >> dr. yakni is an expert on gender violence. she said isis kidnapped more than 2,500 yezidi women last august. she says since then, the women have been bought and sold across syria like cattle. >> they have two main -- first
by youngsters by giving them these young girls and women and secondly, to humiliate and expose these women into slavery and systematic rape. >> since august, they've only succeed succeeded in rescuing a fraction of the kidnapped women. all of those rescued say they were raped. >> if you could say something to the men who took you to his house, what would you want to tell this guy? >> i don't want to tell him anything. i just want to kill him. >> so, of the thousands of women who have been held hostage in this way since last august, the kurdish authorities have only been able to rescue about 100 in part by playing ransom to arab tribes men who act as middle
mep. there is no white knight coming to save these men. isis is still holding on to its front lines. when i met that 19-year-old girl, she told me before isis came to her village, she had dreams of becoming a doctor. those dreams are gone. her father and eldest brother believe to have been executed by isis and get this, her mother and two of her brothers are still being held hostage. >> ivan wa, what an incredible story. it's important to remember how appalling the things that are happening over there. >> the war has a lot at stake. >> there's a lot going on and that's what we have to stay focused on. >> also another top story, nurse casey hickok is is fighting quarantine. this after she tested negative for ebola, twice. dr. gupta is going to talk to us on this case and we'll talk to her lawyer about what she plans
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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com resisting quarantine. police now stationed outside her home. as president obama blasts the quarantine saying, they're based on fear. not fact. and new details. what caused a nasa rocket's spectacular explosion seconds after take off. we sift through the clues as investigators dig for a cause. are are decades old engines to blame? and a woman's viral video reaches fever pitch capturing dozens of cat calls as she walks through the streets of new york. what it reveals about the threats she's now getting. >> your "new day" continues right now. good morning, welcome back to "new day," this thursday,
october 30th. nurse casey hickok says she is done being bullied in quarantine even as state officials in maine seek a quarter order to keep her isolated at home until the end of a three-week isolation period. >> she says she's tested negative for ebola twice since she returned. she plans to take action. our coverage begins with jean casarez in kent, maine. >> good morning. you know, this is a small town community. it is on the northern part of maine, right next to the canadian border, but all eyes this morning are focused on the house behind me because casey hick og remains voluntarily quarantined in their house on her own acard, but she has said she's going to leave and if she does so, that means everybody may end up in court. >> it is not my intention to put
anyone at risk in this community. >> just steps away from the front porch wednesday night, quarantined nurse, casey hickox, addressed reporters. state officials are demanding she abide by their 21-day quarantine. >> we have been in negotiations all wayday with the state of maine and tried to revolve this, but they will not allow me to leave my house and have any interaction with the public. even though i am completely healthy and symptom free. >> hickox was released monday from isolation inside this tent in new hampshijersey. state troopers standing guard outside. >> the governor is merely pandering to the fear that exists that supposedly she's contagious. she has a right to live her life. >> she texted negative twice,
but that is not stopping officials from seeking a court order to mandate quarantine for a full 21 days. >> we feel strongly about the protocall we've established and have grave concerns about the lack of leadership at the frafl level. >> the state says hickox is required to remain isolated at home until november 10th, but she says she's not planning on it. >> and i have been be told that the attorney general's intention is to file legal action against me and if this does occur, then i will challenge those legal actions. >> some in ft. kent say they have nothing to fear. >> if it's only transferred by bodily fluids, i guess we don't have anything to worry about if we don't come into contact. >> she comes here, i don't want to bring it home. >> on wednesday, hickox didn't say if she would defy the
machi mandate by leaving the house and the police chief told me that some have canceled their day surgery poeappointments, believ she might go to work. some say she doesn't have ebola, we want her to come out in the community, but there are a lot of people here who don't take well to this because they want to respect the state of maine if they determine under their state laws there should be that 21-day quarantine. you respect the state you live in. >> the question is, is it about facts or fear and it's going to continue as a debate we're seeing at the highest level. the president is saying quarantine measures are about pandering, not practicality. instead, the commander in chief says health care workers fighting ebola abroad should be treated as heroes. he's further distancing himself from others who want workers quarantined. let's go to michelle kosinski, joining us live with more. telling the president you need to lead more, then he leads and
they don't like where he's leading them. >> it's been twice in two days now we heard the president speak on ebola. he was flanked by dr. brantly, those who treated nurse nina pham and some who are still within that 21-day monitoring period. we've heard the white house use strong words over the last couple of days, but they will not openly criticize the states or pentagon for going above and beyond the cdc guidelines, the ones based in science and fact. the president said these health care workers who are returning need to be treated like american heroes and that it's because of them that ebola will ultimately be stopped. >> it's because we don't run an hide when there's a problem. because we don't react to our fears, but instead, we respond
with common sense and skill and courage. that's the best of our history. not fear, not hysteria, not misinformation. >> and the white house has been asked repeatedly don't you disagree with what the states and pentagon are doing and doesn't this show a lack of overall coordination. the white house says no. they say states have the authority to do what they need to do to keep their people safe. they said in the case of the pentagon, these are thousands of people who will be coming back from the hot zone even though they will not be treating patients, the white house says it's more efficient the to quarantine them all in one place. >> thanks so much for that birkhead. so, this morning as you've heard, casey hickox is vowing to defy a state order to remain quarantined. she says she has tested negative for ebola twice since returning.
>> we have been in negotiations all day with the state of maine and tried to revolve this ammic bly, but they will not allow me to leave my house and have interaction with the public even though i am completely healthy and symptom free. i am frustrated by this fact and i have been told that the attorney general's intention is to file legal action against me. and if this does occur, then i will challenge those legal actions. >> joining us to discuss is casey hickox' attorney, norman siegel, and sanjay gupta. what is casey's plan today? >> first, i want to say in the opening, there is no court order yet, so saying she's defying the order is not accurate. she could walk out today and maybe she will walk down the road with her boyfriend and if they try to arrest her, that
would be illegal. if they get the court order under maine law, we have three day, so probably next wednesday because tuesday is a holiday and we intend to fly up to maine. >> have three days -- to challenge it. is she planning to go to work tod today? >> well, at 8:30 this morning, we're having a conference call to discuss her options and what the consequences would be, so at this point, i could just tell you, last night, she came out of her house and the question was, would they arrest her. they did not. that would make sense. i would hope the government officials in maine have a reasonable, open mind about what's going on and let's not have exacerbations of intentions that exist. >> because there are state troopers around her house. >> but they say they're there for her safety and security. i don't believe that. but at this point, the worst thing would be is she steps out
in the next hour and they try to put handcuffs on her. i sincerely hope that never occurs. if we're going to have a disagreement, let's have the disagreement in a court of law. not out on the streets of maine. >> sanjay, before i bring you in, i want to read the governor's statement about this. he has said this individual has stated publicly she will not abide by the protocalls. we are exploring all of our options for protecting the health and well being of the health care worker, anyone who comes into contact with her, the ft. kent community and all of maine. he says he's protecting the public health. what's your response? >> i think that is not accurate. i think it is a statement based on myths about the disease and also about fear of the disease. there's absolutely no justification for the state of maine to quarantine casey. she doesn't have the symptoms.
and the medical community continues to tell us as long as she doesn't have the symptoms, she's not at risk with being contagious to the people of maine, so mr. governor, with due respect, you're wrong. >> sanjay, how do we end this stand off? >> i'm sure a lot of people out there watching say if casey just stays home, the stand off ends. obviously, that's not something she wants to do, nor is it something her organization, doctors without borders, recommends. they've been doing this longer than anybody else. 40 years now data and they say that quarantine is not recommended nor is it warranted. they're very clear on this. and now, you start to see evidence here in the united states even, dr. spencer was out on subways and the bowling alley and restaurant. none of those people got sick. >> but it made new yorkers nervous. >> if the question is does it make people nervous, it's a different question than does it make people sick.
i think we need to be clear on what we're trying to protect. we're trying to protect people from being scared or nervous, then we should say that and that's a legitimate discussion, but not sick. >> and the courts say if there's a decision based merely on fear, it's illegal. so if that's what they're admitting and we understand the dynamic if you look at the history of communicable diseases in america, the answer is that you don't respond to fear, you have to follow the constitution and law. we're a nation and the rule of law and to the governor in maine, make sure you follow the constitution. >> social media is abuzz with this topic, as you know, and people are on both sides. some of the tweets that have been sent in, the first one is is in favor of casey hickox. this is from beth. who say nurses don't kill people. pathogens kill people. lots of people believe that she is not contagious, but then
there's this other strain you hear from people. this comes from becky work. stay quarantined! read a book. do laundry, enjoy life and oh, yeah, stop whining. >> there is a refrain out there, which says 21 days. that's a little sacrifice to keep the public, to quell the public's anxiety. >> it's a larger issue. an issue of liberty in america. the constitution said the government can't deprive you without due process of law. maine is not doing that. to the american public, i say i understand the fear, but we're a nation of fear who have a history that we try to make reasonable decisions and we don't want to enfringe on someone's liberty and even for a minute, let alone for 21 days. >> the interesting thing, the slippery slope argument comes up. you have a situation where doctors at emory have taken care of four patients successfully. they've done well, out of the
hospital. should that health team be quarantined? are you going to quarantine the doctors at emory, at nih including dr. fauchy, the doctors in nebraska? >> we go to court next week according to this protocall, casey can't even come to court because it will be in the public. >> yes, but of course, the plip side is that the patients who cared for thomas duncan in dallas did, the health care workers did become infected and that dr. spepser who was traveling around new york did at first was showing no symptom, then did develop symptoms and contract ebola. so there's always an example of either side. >> no one is arguing that someone who is sick can't transmit the virus. mr. duncan was is sick. the question you're really trying to answer is did then those nurses transmit the virus because casey is like the nurse, not mr. duncan. those nurses as far as we know
did not transmit the virus to anyone else. >> he got it right. >> my point is that many people feel 21 days is not that big of a sacrifice to quell the anxiety. >> but that's sacrificing ourself to medical ignorance. these governors want to be tough guys, but they're pandering in a political sense and we've got to get away from pandering for fear for political reasons. let the medical community direct this kind of debate. the politicians should stay out of it. you want to quarantine anyone, quarantine the politicians. >> at 8:30 this morning, you have a conference call with your client. what are you going to recommend to her? >> as soon as you let me off this set -- >> what are you going to tell her to do today? >> we don't tell our clients wa to do. it's the client's decision. you have to do that because it's her life. i learned when i was in
mississippi in the '60s, i am the technician. not the decision maker. >> well, thanks so much for taking time for us. we will look forward to hearing what happens after the conference call. >> follow his advice. >> we always do. thanks so much. >> and we'll let him get to his client. >> thanks so much. an investigation is under way this morning to try and determine what caused this catastrophic explosion of an unmanned nasa rocket. investigators with the space agency and from orbital sciences are assessing the damage and trying to figure out what went wrong. that rocket was carrying some 5,000 pounds of food, supplies, equipment and science experiments to the international space station. there seems to have been a big uptick in the number of russian aircraft flying into european air space in recent y days. it's raising red flags for nato officials. the planes floiing under the guise of military maneuvers
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welcome back to "new day." just five days until midterm elections and usually, at this point, we know what's going to happen, but this time, the balance of power are up for grabs. at this time, politicians with political aspirations are coming out, hoping they can do something to swing in and get momentum. will it work? let's bring in dana bash. she is in the presidential swing state of iowa this morning. heavy metaphor cal value. what are you seeing out there? >> 459 days, chris, that is the number of days until the tentative date for the iowa caucuses. very, very far away, but as you said, just fyfe five days from that, there is a very tight senate race, so everyone who might want to be president is
flooding the state. hillary clinton in the hawk eye state to help get out the vote for the democratic senate candidate. >> you will never worry where bruce braillely stands. he's a fighter for iowa. >> it's clinton's second iowa visit in two months to help others, but the probable candidate has her own work to do. >> you test your candidates, actually force them to be the best they can be. >> iowa's tight senate race allows white house hopefuls and there are a lot of them to get there early and often. >> how are you? >> florida republican marco rubio spent the day can joanne -- pressing with voters at multiple stops. >> senate majority may well be decided here in iowa this year. >> rubio was an early supporter
of earnst for senate, but the bonus for him and others to come and meet local leader rs is undeniable. >> this is the third time i believe you've been here -- >> third or fourth. >> any republican even considering running for president has made a point of propping up in the hawk eye state this election year. rick perry, rick santorum, mike huckabee, paul ryan. bobby jindal, rand paul have come multiple times. i'm glad to be here. >> sometimes, testing the waters can be treacherous like when a voter -- but about mitt romney's. >> unlike 2008, when barack obama trounced hillary clinton in iowa, she doesn't have much competition here for now. now, the latest controversy for
this race is that the republican candidate skipped a meeting with the des moines register editorial board and democrats have been pouncing on her. hillary clinton did very aggressively yesterday saying that when you're in iowa, you have to be willing to answer the tough questions. you can be sure we're going to remind her of that maybe this time next year. >> if she's in the race of course. dana, i love that graphic where you had all the would be candidates popping up as square crows in the corn field. do you think they are helping right now coming in or are they reminders of the establishment? >> that's a great question. i don't think they're hurting because at this point in time, it's about getting out the base and if you are an aware republican, then you actually want to meet these candidates because you want to get ready for the next time around. so, i don't think it's hurt iin
this is why they're here all the time. that's the name of the game. they expect in iowa to meet, to feel, to touch the people that they would potentially want to put in the white house and so, the earlier these candidates can get in here, the better. >> you getting any sense of why we have so many races that are so close? this year? if you think about it, you would think that the democrats would be getting completely spanked and there's certainly much to our disadvantage of the republicans, but why so many races so close? >> disgust. that's honest ly the best word o describe it. people are so fed up with washington that they don't think anybody can really make much of a difference, which is why there are such tight races in about ten states. what we have seen anecdotely here in iowa, kansas, new hampshire, all across the country where we've traveled is that the people who can
genuinely say that they are not of washington and of the parties in washington and the partisan problems there, they are doing the best because voters are so fed up and again eric we hear this anecdotely, but just talking to democratic and republican sources, they are finding this with their data as well, that's why the candidates are saying we're not here, not in washington, we are here of iowa, i've never been to washington, bruce braley, the democrat, is a member of congress. that is what they're pushing more than anything and that's the reason why. >> i was watching the video of this event the other day and this lady screamed out, i don't want to hear what's wrong with her. what's right with you? and i do think that tox is thety is there. it's so negative. but we'll have to see how the votes go because just because they're angry doesn't mean people get voted out. thank you for being out there and bringing us the reporting as only you can. >> thanks, chris. israel and the yit, are they
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rocket admitting there was a quote catastrophic failure and leads to concerns about the safety of privatized space travel. let's go to tucson and bring in mark kelly, who has been to the international space station on four different occasions and also a member of spacex's advisory board, another company that sends rockets to the space station. mark, great to see you this morning. >> great to be on your show. good morning. >> good morning, so, by now, you've had a chance to watch this catastrophic failure of this rocket exploded several times. what do you think went wrong here? >> well, we're not going to know for months, but when you watch the video, you can see that there was likely, well, there was a lot of thrust. the vehicle stopped climbing. whether that's from a failure of the engine or somewhere in the you know, the fuel or somewhere else in the propulsion system, they're not going to know until they start the investigation.
20 seconds into the flight, they commanded the destruct system to make sure it didn't wind up in a populated area when they knew it wasn't going to make it to orbit. that's the appropriate action it would take and now, it's all about putting the pieces back together and figuring out what happened. >> so, because they knew it was not following it proper trajectory, they hit the self-destruct button. >> that's correct. there's a range safety system and range safety officer. we have it on the space shuttle, even when we have people on board. the first priority is protect the public. you dpo in the wrong direction, you doept want that to happen. most of the debris wound up on top of the launch pad. >> your brother, scott, is also an astronaut and as we understand it, that rocket was carrying equipment for scott's next mission to the
international space station. what was lost? >> well, from what he knows so far, about four months worth of his clothing, a bunch of his food. those things aren't very important. i think the more important pieces were some of the equipment that was going to support the science that he was going to do during this one-year mission aboard the space station. so, you know, they'll look at the lodgistic chain going up with other launches. just a progress launch now two days ago, there's going to be a spacex launch in december. orbital has another one on the schedule. before they launch, they're going to have to figure out what happened here and you know, so they'll make some adjustments. it's not going to be you know, one mishalf like this that seriously affects operations on the space station, but it is a lot of valuable, lost equipment and supply. >> but what does that mean for scott's next mission? does he have to delay it? >> no, no, he will not delay,
you know, i can't speak for nasa, but it's not likely at all. they will, they will most definitely launch on time. i don't know, maybe he's going to have to borrow somebody's clothes for a little while or get some out of the dirty laundry bag on the space station. >> i'd hate for him to have to go without food up there. that would be horrible. >> there's plenty. >> go ahead. >> we don't have to worry -- yeah, they've got contingency supplies on board in case things like this happen. but you know, you only have so many launches, so they're going to have to reprioritize things to make sure they have the right stuff on board. >> so, you are a member of spacex's safety advisory board. that's a private company. do you think what happened on tuesday should give us all pause about using private companies to go into space to the international space station and for any exploration?
>> well, let me first say when you have a major mishap like this, the complete loss of a vehicle and its payload, you've got to do a thorough vest gag, see what went wrong. to be honest, when we started this commercial cargo and commercial crew plan after the requirement or the space shuttle, initially, i wasn't a really big fan, but when you see what spacex has been able to do with launching multiple times, launching cargo and now, a couple of years from now, the plan is to launch crew members. there's been a lot of success there and they've done it very well and orbital has done it well for the first two flights up to the space station and we do have mishaps. we had two accidents with the space shuttle. when we have people on board, this is the united states government who is completely managing and operating the space shuttle program and we still had two accidents. it's very difficult to get cargo
and get something, a rocket moving from zero to 17,500 miles an hour in just a matter of minutes. it's, you know, these vehicles operate under incredible temperatures and pressures and rpm. really at the limits of what we can do, so we are going to have accidents, but you know, i'm not concerned that we have, that we've made a mistake at this point in contracting with you know, companies like orbital sciences and spacex and letting them operate and deliver cargo to the space station. that's not a concern that i have. >> okay. great to get your perspective. nice to see you. over to chris. >> not a good day to be a man. you could argue that any man who cat calls a woman on the streets isn't really being a good man at all at least, so we're going to interview a woman on the show who endured more than 100 cat
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now i'm having issues with the songs we are picking for this segment. we know that women get cat called pretty much every day. when one group decided to capture this experience on camera, that video right there, it went viral. some 15 million views. that woman there is actress shoshana roberts walking around manhattan. in front of her is a guy with a hidden camera. take a look at the results. >> doing good. >> hey, look at that.
>> sometimes, you pretend you don't speak the same language or maybe that you can't hear. shoshana roberts is at the center of the video. she joins us this morning. this is a theme that i think all women, no matter the age, can relate to. i'm curious what led you to be a part of this experiment. >> i volunteered for this. i was an actress. it was volunteer work. i wanted to start a dialogue because this does happen to me on a daily basis. it is a typical day and it doesn't even illustrate everything that happens. it doesn't show the times in the past that my side has been squeezed or that was just a single day. sorry, it brings up memories of my past where i've experienced sexual assault in my past. >> so, for you, this isn't just a nuisance, it feels threatening because of your past.
when you're walking down the street, this isn't just guys being guys, it reminds you of something. >> you don't know how fast it can escalate. you are thinking, what's going to be next? are these people going to reach out and grab me? i woman just rejected someone's sexual advanced and she was slashed with a knife. it was just reported in manhattan and i mean, uyou have to read body language. generally, i'm a very happy, smiley person. in the video on purpose, i used by acting training there. i kept my composure and i had all my nonverbal cues showing shoulders in, not making eye contact with people. marching with purpose. fast paced. all my nonverbal cues, they ignored. generally, there are good and bad days. everyone has days where they feel like smiling. smile, beautiful, have a nice
day. inno >> it just adds up. yes, i have walked down the street and smiled and interacted, hello, how are you? i do that many days, but a lot of days, there are, you have tough days. you don't feel like interacting. i've been harassed right after my grandfather died. on my way to a religious function. doesn't matter what you wear. i was wear iing completely mode clothing, not showing, up to my neck, down to my arms, doup to my ankles. >> i feel like chris -- >> this is one of the days it sucks to be on the couch for the guy because this is very embarrassing and even listening to you guys talk b about it. >> guys being guys. not an excuse. the idea of well, what's your disposition on a certain day, not an excuse. i guarantee you, no women while you're walking down street say have a good day, it's guys and
it's guys iffor a reason, but i leads to bad things, especially, very often the type of guy who's not saying good morning. but the guy who's saying one of these more salacious things. that is a kind of person by very nature, who if you give the wrong kind of cue, you could get in trouble. >> apparently, smiling suggests all these other things. >> by the way, this was a hidden camera. a guy with a hidden camera in front of you, so no one saw the camera. >> a t-shirt over it, circle cut in it and i would make sure it wasn't covering the lens. he had a sort of sack that was right there. >> it wouldn't say anything to you if you were with another guy, too. >> but that's still a ridicul s ridiculous. another guy or with another girl. >> there are some people who followed you for like five
minutes. they couldn't get the hint. >> i was scared out of my mind. >> and it has started quite a dialogue, too. because you've gotten, the video's gone viral and it hasn't necessarily been positive. >> the majority has, luckily. i am telling my story. i react to my story this way. i can talk about my story all day seasoned it's not unique. there are so many people with the same story. >> what's the negative reaction? >> a lot of people are saying it's a compliment taken, but robless creative was the person who created holla back and he was saying this wonderful statement yesterday about missing the tree for the forest. or missing the forest for the trees. >> because your messages, hey, get over it, guys are just saying you look pretty.
what's your response? >> five guys on the same block do that, it disrupts my daily life. i'm memorizing a monologue for an audition. i'm trying to get a job. memorizing a monologue is key to that. >> it's intrusive. >> comments are also not just nice. >> it's not just the words. it's the intonation of their words. >> one of the guys said i just saw a thousand dollars go by. >> i wish guys could walk in our shoes a little bit. >> we wanted to get a taste. >> i didn't even hear all of these comments. i was reliving past experiences of sexual assault in my mind during those ten hours. it was bringing up these awful memories and lots of people have those memories. there are others who don't and it brings up a will the of emotions, i was also thinking about the video. i had so much on my mind that day. i was keeping my acting training
many mind. the opening a dialogue and i didn't hear all of these comments at the time. i wasn't aware people were talking to me all the time. we have fwragreat audio. they looked like hand weights, the two microphones in my hands and they picked up stuff i wasn't aware of. >> incredible. thanks for sharing your personal e appearance with us. men of all colors. there were men of all colors. >> in my experience every day, not just during this video. it doesn't matter what size, shape, color you are, what age you are. this happens to everyone. and from everyone. who shares the same male anatomy unfortunately. >> thanks for joining us today. >> great dialogue to have. maine nurse speaking out about her state's efforts to quarantine her. she's vowing to defy the order. late breaking details ahead.
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