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thanks for watching "state of the union." i'm gloria borger in washington. candy will be back here next week. "fareed zakaria: gps" starts right now. this is "gps, the public square." >> welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria coming to you live from new york. we'll begin today's show in vienna where the clock is ticking to tomorrow's deadline for a nuclear deal with iran. will they make it or will those months of high-flying diplomacy be for naught? i have a great panel to talk about that and immigration and syria and ukraine and whether america is an ever strengthening super power or a fading empire. then, the uptick in terror. you're right to think that terrorism is on the rise around
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the globe, but it's not something to get panicked about. i'll explain why. also, the war on drugs has raged for 40 years with little success. i'll talk with ernesto zedillo, the former president of mexico, who has a solution. and a new biography of one of history's most fascinating figures, napoleon. did he bring modernity to europe or was he a cruel conqueror who nearly enslaved the continent? the debate continues 200 years after his greatest defeat. but, first, here is my take. the midterm election results were just one more reflection of the pervasive discontent in the united states these days. two-thirds of americans believe the country is on the wrong track, and yet if one looks at
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the rest of the world, what is striking is how well the united states is doing relative to other major economies. president obama says the united states has produced more jobs in its recovery than the rest of the industrialized world put together. why is this? many believe the american economy has some inherent advantages over its major competitors, a more flexible structure, stronger entrepreneurial traditions, a more demographically dynamic society. well, along comes a fascinating new book that says you ain't seen nothing yet. peter zeihan's the accidental super power begins with geography. pointing out that america is the world's largest consumer market for a reason, rivers. transporting goods by water, he points out, is 12 times cheaper than by land which is why civilizations have always flourished around rivers. and america he calculates has more navigable waterways, 17,600
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miles worth, than the rest of the world put together. by comparison, he notes, china and germany have about 2,000 miles each, and all of the arab world has just 120 miles of river. but that's just the beginning. the world's greatest river network directly overlies the world's largest piece of arable land, the american midwest, he writes. add to this america's many and unequal deep water ports which you need in order to get goods to and from the rest of the world. chesapeake bay alone boasts longer stretches of prime port property than the entire continental coast of asia from vladivostok to lahore. all of these factors have created the world's largest consumer market and surplus savings and dynamic unified economy. it is also remarkably self-sufficient. imports made up 17% of the world
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economy in 2012 compared to the world bank compared to germany's 46% and china's 25%. and this number in the u.s. will fall as america imports less and less foreign oil. he emphasizes the degree to which america's energy revolution has insulated it from the rest of the world. thanks to efforts to extract shale, north america has much of the energy it needs at home. as the world gets messier, he argues, there are fewer and fewer compelling reasons for america to pay blood and treasure to stabilize it. i'm not as sure as he is that america's advantages are simply structural. if one looks at the last five years, again in comparative terms, american public policy actually comes out looking impressive. to combat the global economic crisis of 2008, washington acted speedily and creatively on three fronts, aggressive monetary policy, fiscal policy, and reform and recapitalization of the banking sector.
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every other rich country did less and has seen a more troubled return to normalcy. now, since the response to the crisis, washington has been paralyzed and polarized, but this is not the entirety of american politics. beyond the beltway, mayors and governors are reaching across party lines partnering with the private sector and making reforms and investments for future growth. when tocqueville wrote about america in the 1830s he was struck by the bottom up vitality of the towns and villages. as we approach thanksgiving, let's bear in mind that the genius of america is still alive, whatever most americans might think. for more, go to and read my "washington post" column this week. let's get started.
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tomorrow is deadline day in the nuclear talks between iran and the west. it's going to be a tough slog to the finish and a report today from a semi official news service in tehran doesn't help. the article says it was, quote, impossible, unquote, that the parties would reach comprehensive agreement. despite, that the dance of diplomacy continues in vienna with secretary kerry's schedule filled with meetings. cnn's jim sciutto is in the austrian capital for us. jim, what is the hope for a deal? >> reporter: fareed, so many twists and turns in this dance, and the trouble is so much conflicting information coming out of these impenetrable talks. that same iranian news service quoting other iranian officials saying they got a very positive read on these talks from the parliamentary speaker. i'm told by a senior state department official that while big gaps remain, they are taking positive steps, and now you have a flurry of foreign ministers flocking to vienna from france, from the uk, from russia presumably to try to close the
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gaps in the final hours. >> jim, what happens if there is no deal? is that the end of it or does that mean postponement? >> reporter: well, at the extreme ends, you could have a collapse of the talks or at the positive end a big picture agreement. the folks i speak to say that both of those scenarios very unlikely. more likely somewhere in between. either a straight extension of the talks where you say you need a couple more weeks to reach an agreement or perhaps some sort of framework deal announced where you say that you have made big progress on the big issues but in the details you need a couple more weeks to work that out. somewhere in between most likely but really i think even the people in the building behind me there right now, fareed, don't know the answer to that question yet. >> we'll count on you to keep watching. that was cnn's jim sciutto in vienna. now let me bring in my panel. anne-marie slaughter was the director of policy planning at
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the state department. she now heads the new america foundation. bret stephens is a pulitzer prize winning foreign affairs columnist for "the wall street journal" and the author of a new book. and peter beinart is an associate professor of political science at the city university of new york and a cnn political commentators. anne-marie, what do you make of the fact that it seems as though some signals out of tehran say there's no deal to be had? >> i think that's a negotiating tactic. i have never negotiated with the iranians, but everybody who does says their tactics are no deal, no deal, no deal, no deal until boom, you have a deal. so it makes service sense that they had be putting this kind of pressure on the negotiators for the west by having spokesmen say there's no way we can reach a deal. >> bret, isn't it fair to say that almost any deal obama brings back, the republicans are going to characterize as too soft an attack? >> well, if it's a deal that allows iran to maintain a robust enrichment capability, if it allows them to continue to develop ballistic missiles, if
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it allows them to continue to do r & d on advanced centrifuges, if it allows them to hide from the iaea, from u.n. inspectors there sites that are known as having possible military dimensions, yeah, justifiably not only republicans but democrats like senator robert menendez of new jersey will look with tremendous skepticism and i think they will be vindicated in the point when the united states abandoned much of the sanctions leverage a year ago, we only put the possibility of forcing iran's hand that much further out of reach. i'm not entirely surprised that it looks at least at this stage that we're not going to have an agreement at this particular deadline. >> peter what, do you think? >> you have to look at the alternative. the alternative is continued sanctions that most likely weaken rouhani and zarif and strengthen the hard liners or potential military action which virtually everybody in the israeli and american intelligence and security establishment have said would be counterproductive and probably lead iran to get a nuclear weapon faster.
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yes, we want the best deal possible but let's not romanticize the alternatives. >> and the iranians are under huge pressure. they have to know as hard as it might be to sell a deal to congress, once the republicans come in, a full republican congress in january, the chances of getting anything are way, way down. so they're under a huge amount of pressure. the administration knows that, too. i actually think you'll either get a deal or you will get a deal within three weeks. >> i wouldn't be surprised if there's some kind of agreed framework at this stage, maybe not in the next day or so, but in the next couple of weeks which then the supreme leader ayatollah khamenei reneges on. a history back to 2009 where we seem to have an early stage agreement and then it falls apart. and why is that? khamenei continues himself a revolutionary, not a compromiser. he remains the supreme leader, remains head of an irgc, the
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revolutionary guards corps who have been adamantly opposed for it. he's calling for an iran with a centrifuge capability ten times what it has now. so we have to bear in mind that the whip hand in iran has consistently been opposed to any kind of agreement with the west, even one that i think would give up more than they ought to get. >> peter, what about that idea that iran hasn't still kind of come to terms with the idea of making -- you know, making its peace with the world, finding a way to end a feud. if you read khomeini's twitter feed, he has a very active twitter feed, it's outrageously anti-american, anti-western. it reads like a 16-year-old anti-colonial revolutionary from the 1960s. there's a struggle within the political elite in iran and khamenei has good reason to be afraid. that kind of integration and normalization i think would, in fact, probably -- the end of the cold war with iran would be great for the forces of
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liberalization and reform in iran. i think it's partly this cold war with the west that keeps him and the hardliners in power. that's why so many dissidents in iran actually want this deal to succeed. for exactly the reasons i think the khamenei is suspicious of it. >> and really what's going on here inside is, is this going to be evolution to a more moderate government that retains the support of the people or are you going to have hardline, hardline until the 60% of iranians who are under 30 and who are enormously pro-western are going to come into their time and then you're going to have revolution. >> isn't the big problem, bret, that it's not just khomeini's ideology, it's that a huge class of people, the revolutionary guard, profit from the sanctions because they are the gatekeepers of the iranian economy now, and they control all of the smuggli
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smuggling. so in a strange way opening up iran might be very good for most iranians but it will be bad for a certain group of people who are very powerful in iran right now. >> that's the essential point. i don't think any of us at this table disagree with the idea that the overwhelming majority of iranians want enough to the regime under which they have been laboring for 36 years. what we learned in 2009 is they don't have the whip hand. >> not yet. >> when we come back, more foreign policy but what we're going to ask is, is america in retreat as bret stephens says it is in his new book or is it getting stronger and ever more dynamic as i told you about in the beginning of the show? we'll have a debate. have money with that broker?nl dad: yeah, 20 something years now. thinking about what you want to do with your money? daughter: looking at options. what do you guys pay in fees? dad: i don't know exactly. daughter: if you're not happy do they have to pay you back? dad: it doesn't really work that way. daughter: you sure? vo: are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is managed? wealth management at charles schwab.
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and we are back with anne-marie slaughter of new america, peter beinart of the atlantic and new america and bret stephens who has writ an great new book called "america in retreat: the new isolation
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and the coming global disorder." you can buy it after you hear him defend himself. the peter zeihan book i was telling but really makes the case the world is getting messier, but america is going to do just fine if we just continue to, you know, continue the shale revolution, have a dynamic economy. what's to worry about? >> i completely agree. america is going to do just fine. we are not in a post-american world. this is very much an american world, and you look at any of the sort of metrics. an economic historian 30 years from now will say what happened in the early part of the 21st century? fracking, the social revolution. i do not believe america is in decline. decline happens us of big civilizational forces, demography, cultural issues that are almost beyond the reach of any mortal politician to change. america is in retreat.
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that is a policy choice. president obama said what the united states needs a nation building at home, that the tide of war was receding it because he commanded it to recede. al qaeda was on a path to defeat and we were going to enter into a kind of benign moment where we could focus on our own problems and let the rest of the world deal with its problems. what we've learned is that when you shrink american power, american influence, the rest of the world doesn't just stay still. putin acts, bashar assad acts, the mullahs act. this policy dedsition which is reversible accounts for many of the reversible accounts for many of the disorders we're seeing around the world. >> peter, i'm going to guess you disagree. >> right. we have been in retreat in our land presence like we were in the 1970s after we disastrously overextended in vietnam. we have a much larger military footprint than anything reagan could have conceived. no u.s. troops in the middle east under ronald reagan.
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we have a vast military footprint but we have retreated from where we were under reagan. a retreat of america's military footprint is not the same as retreat of american power. we have seen a regeneration of american power partly because some of the forces that bret has talked about, partly because the united states responded better to the financial crisis than did europe, and partly i think because obama has taken actions on health care, on immigration that are going to help america be more dynamic in the future. >> so i wrote an article in 2009 talking about america's edge and how we are best positioned to be -- this to be another century of what i would say the americas, not america, but i actually think the better way to put it in america in opposition because what's different from the reagan era is we do have a larger footprint but we are also hated around the world in ways -- in pockets in ways that
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we have not -- more so than we have been before and there is a sense i think that we are focusing on building ourselves up at home. i do think there's a way in which this administration has sent a message that says we need to tend our own gardens, which is right, and we think other countries should take much more of a role globally which is also right but you put those together and it looks like america is just not that interested. >> let me ask you about the rest of the world because this is where i actually think -- certainly zeihan would argue we are -- he may not call it a post-american world. but one of the points i makes is in lots of parts of the world, either by choice or structural reality, american order is waning in places like central asia where turkey has become very powerful, in latin america where brazil has become very powerful, in asia where the big contest is between china and japan and india. yes, the united states continues to play a role but not the dominant role.
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that's why i say from -- you move from an american to a post american. do you really think that if the united states -- if obama would just give a couple more tough speeches, the turks would melt and become the kind of subservient alley they were? we are in a different world. >> but look at this. what if we were to start making good on the promise of the pivot which so far has mainly been a feint mainly deploying naval force there is adequate and militarily we're nowhere where we were when ronald reagan was president. >> we're returning troops to asia -- >> there's no comparison. but what if we were -- what if we were reassuring the estonians or the ukrainians or the israelis that we really are militarily serious about their security. it's not just about deterring rogues or adversaries although that's important. it's also about reassuring our friends that the guarantees of packs americana are good. the last thing we want are a world of freelancers. >> you did a wonderful piece pointing out that the support
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for america in europe is still sky high compared to under bush. >> although we're still hated, especially in the middle east, the fact is america is much more popular under president obama and i think the great hope is that our economic model can once again be a model because that's what hurt the united states so dramatically with the financial crisis. the sense we were not the land of opportunity anymore. i think we're actually moving ahead in that regard. >> you point out that we've got to go but i love the statistic. the united states is 75% more popular under -- even today in germany under obama than bush. so maybe the germans know something we don't. we're going to have to leave it at that. next up, you're spot on if you think that terror is on the rise around the world, but don't panic. i'll explain why. [announcer:]startup-ny.
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jerusalem. the new global terrorism index shows that terrorism is, indeed, on the rise around the globe. the index was prepared by the institute for economics and peace, a nonpartisan think tank that analyzed instances of terrorism across 162 countries between 2000 and 2013. it notes that since 2000, terrorism fatalities have increased five fold, and in 2013 terror deaths were up by 61% from just a year before. but let's delve a little deeper. it turns out that in 2013 only five countries accounted for 82% of terrorism deaths. iraq, afghanistan, pakistan, nigeria and syria. not surprisingly iraq was the bloodiest country for terrorism in 2013 according to the report, as it has been for nine of the last ten years.
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but it might be more accurate to think of these countries as war zones and these deaths as part of civil wars, deep-rooted struggles for power. that's very different from terrorism attacks in otherwise peaceful countries. the report finds that only about 5% of terrorism deaths since 2000 happened in advanced industrialized country, and over the last five years, a quarter of the deaths in those countries were at the hands of lone wolves, individuals with no terrorist group affiliation. so terrorist activity might be on the rise, but it is concentrated in a few places and done by a few groups. the report pointed out that just four groups accounted for two-thirds of the deaths from terror last year. the top killers are, as you can imagine, isis, boko haram, the taliban and al qaeda. while much of the jihadist hate speeches directed at the west, most of the victims are locals.
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most militant groups are actually in pursuit of, quote, relatively limited goals in local or regional contexts, unquote. even isis, perhaps the group that instills the most fear in the west today, does not seem to emphasize, quote, totally abstract and utopian global goals, unquote, a sharp contrast to al qaeda. so how should we combat isis and other terror groups around the globe? consider this data from the terrorism report which cites the rand corporation. between 1968 and 2006, just 7% of terrorist organizations have been defeated through military action alone. so what has effectively quashed 83% of the terrorist groups that were defeated in that period? local intelligence and police breaking up the groups on the one hand and political engagement on the other. either the key members of the group were arrested and killed or they were somehow integrated
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into the political process. that is likely how it will end even in iraq and syria. policing and political power sharing. by the way, for even more perspective according to the new global terrorism index, an american is 64 times more likely to die by homicide than because of a terrorist attack. and further, at least in 2012, a human being living anywhere in the world was 40 times more likely to be a victim of homicide rather than terrorism. so if you want to be scared, fine, but be more scared about the shooting next door instead of the terrorist group halfway around the world. next on "gps," a blockbuster announcement this week about drugs. not a big bust but instead this, bob marley branded marijuana is to be sold legally in the united states next year. can we officially declare the war on drugs over? my next guests say we should. [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman,
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america's public enemy number one in the united states is drug abuse. >> 43 years ago richard nixon declared a war on drugs. 19 days ago voters in washington, d.c., alaska, and oregon each voted in favor of the legalization of marijuana. those states are expected to join washington state and colorado where marijuana is already legal, and this week the family of bob marley, the reggae superstar who died in 1981,
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announced what some have called the world's first global marijuana brand, marley natural. the company hopes its wares will be on store shelves next year in those very states. so can we officially hammer nails into the coffin of the war on drugs? we should according to my next guests. ernesto zedeo was president of mexico. and ethan nadelmann is the executive director of the drug policy alliance. so explain, ernesto, why you think the drug war has failed. >> well, by any objective indicator let's look what has happened with consumption. let's see what has happened with production of drugs. let's see how many people that are in jail -- when this war started in the u.s., you had 300,000 people in u.s. jails. now you have 2.3 million people, you know, and a lot of those
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people are in jail because of minor offenses, drug related minor offenses. but if you see south of the border we have to talk about thousands of people who died in my country, we have to talk about all these resources that flow north to south and not only serve to buy weapons and kill people in mexico but also to undermine mexican institutions and to make for us much harder the endeavor of having a strong rule of law. believe me, drug policies in your country, in europe, in latin america, everywhere are making our job so much harder and so much more painful. >> so has the decriminalization, the legalization of drugs in the few states in america, shown a path forward?
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has it resulted in taking some of the crime and violence out of it? >> definitely. you had 10,000 fewer arrests in each of these states in just the last year. mostly young men of color who get arrested in the united states for marijuana possession even though they're no more likely to use or possess or sell marijuana than young white americans. you have tax revenues amounting to hundreds of millions of dollars combined in these states and we're looking at billions of dollars in tax savings. the police have more time to focus on serious crime rather than arresting young people for marijuana and meanwhile we don't see any significant jump in marijuana use, a significant jump in fatalities on the roads. you're even seeing interesting findings like reductions in problems with domestic abuse or reductions in the number of people dieing from overdose that is involve a combination of opiates and alcohol, and people speculate that the reason is that people are beginning to substitute marijuana for alcohol. marijuana, a far less dangerous drug than alcohol for most people. >> but the president of mexico, i asked him on this program, he's still not in favor of legalization of marijuana.
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the previous president was not in favor. i asked him, too. why are they opposed? >> i don't know. you have to ask them, right? but i hope that my government, particularly taking into account events in mexico, will reconsider that position. let me be more specific. over the last month or so, my country has gone through a very traumatic and painful situation because some students were killed by organized crime, but local policemen cooperated with organized crime to commit this horrendous crime. everybody is talking about this, and it is very right. people are protesting because this is an outrageous circumstance, but i think very few people in my country and in other countries are really saying that underlying that
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crime is a power of organized crime supported by the drug traffic because those guys will not have the power and the capacity to commit these horrendous crimes if they didn't have the money that are obtained through the illicit trade. >> one of the arguments against legalizing marijuana i hear a lot from people involved in looking after drug addiction and dealing with it and treating it is it is a gateway, that if you allow marijuana, it is going to make people more likely to take much, much more dangerous drugs. >> and it turns out that the evidence shows it's not the use of marijuana that leads to other drugs. the vast majority of people who use marijuana never go on to become even regular marijuana consumers much less use or get in trouble with cocaine or heroin or drugs like that. in fact, the principal connection is the prohibition of marijuana. so if you look, for example, in the netherlands where marijuana
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has been semi legal or 30 years, the percentage of young people who use marijuana, it's not just lower than the u.s. but the percent of young people who then go on to use other drugs is lower than in the u.s. and other countries because they've essentially separated the marijuana market from the other drug markets. in point of fact, legally regulating marijuana would reduce whatever gateway effect or steppingstone there is. >> are you optimistic that you are making headway? >> no, i'm not very optimistic, fareed, because i mean on the one hand, i recognize that things have started to change on the ground over the last few years, but when i see the dimension of the problem, i think that the steps that have been taken are still very modest. >> thank you very much for coming on. fascinating. next on "gps," you probably learned in grade school that napoleon bonaparte was a man of extremely tiny stature who desperately wanted to be bigger
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of a loading website. don't listen to the naysayer. switch to comcast business today and get 50 megabits per second for $89.95. comcast business. built for business. napoleon bonaparte, the first emperor of france. the picture in my mind's eye is always of a terribly short man with his hands stuck in his overcoat. well apparently at least part of that picture is incorrect. napoleon, it turns out was 5'6". if that sounds short to you, that was the average height in his day. it's but one of the myths that is busted in a terrific new book by my next guest. the book is "napoleon: a life" and the author the historian andrew roberts. pleasure to have you on. >> thank you very much. great to be back on the show. >> i remember reading somewhere a long time ago that there were
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three people about whom the most biographies had been ever written, which is jesus, lincoln, and napoleon. napoleon was this massive figure, particularly in the 19th century, and he sort of faded. why was he considered so important. >> you are so right about the number of books. there have been more books written about napoleon than days since his death. so why write another? because he is still so important. in fact, if anything, in china he's getting a revision. he's becoming much more popular there. he was the one, of course, who said that china was a sleeping giant and when it wakes, it will shake the world, which obviously has happened. >> but why is he sort of such a large figure in history? >> he's the man who creates what's modern france really and so much of modern europe. when one looks at france and when one sees the code napoleon
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which is so important in european law and the beautiful architecture and the rest, one sees a man who has got a vision, which still actually pertains. >> and does he make france the sort of leading power in europe? >> precisely that. it was almost a failed state when he took over in 1799, and by the time he became emperor five years later, it was the leading military power in europe. >> how did he do that? >> he did that through pretty ruthless and tough modernization of every institution of the state, and also he completely reorganized the french army. he organized finances so that instead of being a debt nation it became very a very rich country and he was one of those driven men in history. his own personal ambition and drive was astonishing. >> and this is what you mean when you talk about he is the creator of modern europe because it's all this rationalization of old feudal structures. >> exactly.
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he flung away wherever his armies came, they flung away all the old feudal structures and instead they brought in new tax codes, new local codes, new forms of local administration. but also he had this driving desire obviously for france to homogenize western europe but also to make it a sort of modern >> also to make it a modern place. they got rid of the anti-semitic rules and laws that they got rid of the inquisition and the roman empire and all these old structures. >> of course, many, many people regard him as a monster. they regard him as an evil dictator instituted a coo,
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murdered his opponents. and you could actually name the people who he killed for political reasons on the fingers of one hand. the idea that he was some kind of an adolf hitler, he killed millions of people for political reasons is completely absurd as far as i'm concerned. i don't for a moment deny that he did do some totally ruthless things, including a massacre in jaffir in israel, which was a war crime for all intents and purposes. what i do deny, though, was that he was anything like adolf hitl hitler. he didn't see things in racial terms. he was not a genocidal maniac. he also had a positive vision, which is something that people tend to forget. >> do you think that at the end of his life he regarded himself as a -- as a success? you say he was an incredibly driven man, and he ended up in exile. >> he fought 60 battled, and he
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won all but seven of them, but it is last battle is the one that's most important. he recognized he was a failure in that sense. he managed to get his story out very effectively, but he didn't consider himself to be a failure when it came to napoleon, which replaced the 42 legal codes that the french revolution had and instead just brought it down to one single code which today is the basis of european law. in that sense he said that his code napoleon was more important than all of his battles. the idea that it shouldn't matter who your parents were,
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that it should entirely be based on your own capacity, your own intelligence, your own merit, that should decide where you wind up in the world. he insured that that meritocracy was spread throughout not just france but also places that he captured, and it is the dominating concept of all successful modern countries. andrew roberts, pleasure to have you on. >> thank you so much, fareed. >> coming up on "gps" a country where kissing in public is tabu, and no, it's not an islam problem. because there was no accident. volvo's most advanced accident avoidance systems ever. the future of safety, from the company that has always brought you the future of safety. give the gift of volvo this season and we'll give you your first month's payment on us. (receptionist) gunderman group is growing.
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>> the number of young people in the world is higher today than at any point in history. there are 1.8 billion people, roughly a quarter of the global population, between the ages of 10 and 24. it brings me to my question. which country has the largest percentage of wrung people age 10 to 24? is it, a, india, b, afghanistan, c, timor-leste, or, d, china? stay tuned, and we'll tell you the correct answer. this week's book of the week is the one i began the show with.
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"the accidental super power." it's a lively wide-ranging analysis that uses geography to shed a fascinating light on global politics and economics and america's unique advantages in the decades ahead. it will spur you to think and rethink much about the world. now for the last look. ♪ the u.s. had a summer of love in 1967. 47 years later it seems india is having an autumn of kissing. let me explain. to do so let me first take you back to 2007 when an arrest warrant was issued for american actor richard gere after he dipped a bollywood actress and kissed her on the cheek during a public appearance. he was burned in effigy by an angry mob. you see, kissing in public is considered tabu by many in india. even just a peck on the cheek. when i was growing up, you never
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saw a kiss on tv or in the movies. when reports surfaced earlier last month of couples kissing at a cafe, that establishment was attacked by another angry mob. but this time there has been a counter movement against moral policing in india. the kiss of love movement has had protests with lots of kiss and hugging, including rallies in other i understand wran cities like the country's capital new delhi. when some protesters were prevent from making it to a planned venue in delhi, they protest tested outside a metro station. as the movement rolls on, on its face -- i suppose india will have to decide for itself whether a kiss is indeed just a kiss. the correct answer to the gps challenge question is, c, the democratic republic of timor-leste, with 38% of their population 400,000 people between 10 and 24.
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afghanistan and the fed rated states of micronesia are next. india has the next number, 356 million. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i will see you next week. a tragedy. a 12-year-old boy shot and killed by a police officer after officers get this 911 call. >> there is a guy with a pistol. he is, like, pointing it ought everybody. >> it turns out the gun was fake, but police say the officer didn't know that, and one of the nation's most prestigious universities puts a temporary ban on a long-time tradition. why all