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unmanned drones are an increasing threat in the wild blue yonder. today -- >> it's tough to sit and wait and not know what's going to happen but we're hopeful. >> we're going to make it to chicago today, right, guys? >> our interview with faa administrator mike huerta, the man in charge of making sure you get there and safely. then, post ferguson, black and blue, the mistrust between minority communities and the cops, police chiefs from around the country join us for a candid conversation. plus -- >> thanks to chuck, our military is on a firmer footing and looking ahead to the future. >> who he's gonna call? picking the next secretary of defense to help right the foreign policy legacy. rou roundtable on how the president's twilight years can stack up against history. this is "state of the union." good morning from washington. i'm candy crowley. the faa released records this week detailing 25 incidents where small drones came within feet of crashing into a commercial airliner.
considering a flock of geese is enough to bring down a jet in new york city into the hudson, this new report details a very real and concerning threat to air travel. with me now michael huerta, head of the federal aviation administration. i know you're working on regulations for those unmanned drones, but can you describe to me your perception of the threat at this point to commercial airliners? >> well, unmanned aircraft has both great potential as a use for things like surveillance of power lines and so forth but we care about first and foremost maintaining a safe aviation system. so how we integrate them into our national air space system is done with safety as our paramount concern. >> right now regulations supposedly you should not be flying one of these higher than 400 feet, et cetera, et cetera. >> correct. >> go ahead. >> you should not fly them any higher than 400 feet. you should not be anywhere near an airport and you need to maintain line of sight if you're using them for personal uses and a big part of what we need to do is educate people on what the rules are. there are rules, there are laws that govern how we fly things within our national air space
system, and this technology is evolving and the regulations are evolving with it. >> so you know, those are the rules and regulations and yet we have increasing reports whether faa says look, we get about 25 a month that pilots are seeing, commercial and private pilots are seeing at heights far above 400. 1,000 feet, 2,000 feet. this drone that we have, one of the most popular christmas gifts this year. >> sure. >> so what is the threat to an airliner? because again, we saw geese for sully sullenberger to land that plane in the hudson. >> sure. >> because that's how damaging geese were. how damaging is one of these? >> well, the thing that we are most concerned about is to ensure that any aircraft in this system do not come into conflict with one another, they don't crash into one another and -- >> but you can't see these. >> well, these are very high performance aircraft, and they are difficult to see and this is one of the big challenges and so that's why the rules require that people stay away from airports.
now, we have been working with the model aeronautics association, with the model community and clubs so we can educate people because these are not your typical pilots that may be flying one of these for the first time, and they may be unfamiliar with the rules. big part of what we're doing is educating people. >> can they afford to wait? we're still educating people how to drive a car and meanwhile you have a lot of amateurs who love to put a camera on something and fly it up there, and trying to get a sense of your sense of the danger should one of these get sucked into the engine or hit a prop plane in the propeller. that's serious. >> that is certainly a serious concern and it is something that i am concerned about. that's why we are very focused on education, that's why we're also focused on enforcement. we've enforced hundreds of these cases where we have seen someone operating one of these things carelessly and recklessly and posing the danger to aircraft,
and that can't happen. >> some of the criticism has been that a 2012 law said we got to get regulations for this. you were tasked with that, and commercial folks can't fly them right now. they want to use them for delivering packages and looking at crops over, you know, thousands of acres, and they can't do that, and they say the delay is making this more dangerous because you got a bunch of amateurs out there, you know, flying wherever they want. >> well, that actually illustrates the balance that we have to achieve. yes, there are proponents of unmanned aircraft and they really see huge potential with this technology and for them, we can't move fast enough. what they would like to see is free and open use of unmanned aircraft as soon as we can get there. on the other side, you have pilots, commercial pilots, general aviation pilots, who are very concerned that these are difficult to see, they don't really have a good understanding of how they interact with other aircraft, and bedrock principle of aviation is a principle
called see and avoid. the pilots take action to avoid one another. so it's for that reason that we have a plan for a staged and thoughtful integration of unmanned aircraft where we look at lower risk uses first, and then gradually work to others. >> before we get to air travel today, because i do want to ask, on your busiest day, look, you can't help but look at these drones and think, suppose a terrorist wanted to do some real damage. at this point, it's a possibility, it's a feasibility. what are you doing on that score? does that enter into your thinking? >> well, security is always a concern, and one of the things that we're going to be publishing a rule-making, later on this year, that really looks at the qualifications of the operator, the certification of the aircraft, and really -- >> one that would require a pilot license for drone operation? >> i can't say what is going to be in it but broadly speaking, what we are looking at are all
the questions relating to how we certify the aircraft and what are the qualifications of the operator as well as what uses they can be put to. >> let me ask you about today. you wake up this morning, you're the head of the faa and you know it is the busiest travel day of the year. everybody may not go to thanksgiving at the same time but they sure do come home pretty much at the same time. what is your biggest, what's on your mind the most on this day? i know the generality is get everybody home safe but what do you worry about most? >> the big thing that always creates a lot of uncertainty in the system is weather. fortunately we have a very good weather day today. it should be great flying conditions throughout the whole country. little bit of rain in the san francisco bay area, but they need the rain in san francisco so that's probably a good thing. we're expecting a little over 46,000 flights today, and at very high loads, and so what that means is airplanes will be crowded. get to the airport on time because you'll have crowds to get past for security, checking your bag and all of that, but it should be a good day. >> and when you say 46,000
flights how many of them at the same time? when we go to see that and show the audience what the air traffic looks like, and at any given time, how many planes do you have in the air at any given time? how many planes have you got in the air commercially? >> well, it will build throughout the day and the load you're going to see today is about 15% higher than you would see on a typical sunday, so the patterns are going to be a little bit different but first thing in the morning you will see a lot of flights late in the day, as a lot of people want to spend as much time as they can with their family and friends, but it will be a very, very busy day, but you know, i think that as long as everyone gets to the airport on time and as long as we are working closely with the airlines, which we are, to ensure that we're well coordinated, everyone should get there on time. >> we should say to handle that traffic, you do have some new highways, as they say. >> well there's a couple of things. every year for holidays, the defense department releases a lot of air space to us and that enables us to actually plan
different highways in the sky. also over the last year we've been making a lot of investments and making the existing highways much more efficient, and that's a big thing, because this program, our next gen air traffic control program enables us to have much more efficient arrivals and departures at busy airports. here in washington, we just rolled out some new procedures that collectively will save airlines about 2.5 million gallons of fuel a year. >> oh, so the prices for tickets probably will likely go down, right? >> well, they will certainly be more efficient but, and the airlines are always looking to reduce their costs. >> i'm always looking for them to reduce my costs. michael huerta, head of the federal aviation administration, thank you for dropping by. this is the guy that wants to get you home safely. >> thank you very much. >> thanks. ahead, cops feel the heat after a grand jury decides not to indict ferguson police officer darren wilson. some of the country's top police chiefs are next.
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black police association, former nypd commissioner bernard kerik, chief thomas manger of month comery county, maryland, suburban washington and from detroit police chief james craig. gentlemen welcome back to the show. i really appreciate you being here. >> thank you, candy. >> if you are police chief and you are told the grand jury is about to come out with its decision on whether to indict or not, what is, and let me throw this to you, chief craig, to bring you into the room and ask you, what is your first move when someone says we're getting a grand jury decision tonight? >> you know, first thing i'm going to do is what i've done in other places that i've had an opportunity to work, i'm going to meet out with those key leaders in our community. you know, like in detroit, we have a police advisory board. we had that in los angeles. i started in both portland and cincinnati, and talking to those key leaders, getting a pulse of
the community, but it just doesn't start then. it really starts long before that time, and that's about building up trust, and so i've had the great opportunity to open those lines of communications. that's the real key for me. >> was it inevitable that there would be violence the night of the indictment, which by the way was announced at night? >> i think it may have been inevitable in ferguson with the facts and circumstances that you had there. i don't think it's inevitable in every community. what chief craig talks about is developing those relationships and you do that well ahead of time. i mean that's a relentless activity that you do day one, when you start either as a police officer or as a police chief. you need to start building those relationships. >> i'm going to agree with both chiefs there. community trust starts years in advance, decades even, and what you didn't have was that ability to regain the trust of the
community, because it doesn't look like they ever sought it. so i think the violence was going to happen in places like ferguson, but it won't necessarily go to any other city who has developed those relationships with the community at large. you can't do that overnight. you don't have a few hours to develop lasting, trusting relationships. you have to get on the job and each predecessor before you and each successor after you, they must carry on that kind of community trust and rebuilding because all it takes is one incident to set you years backwards if you don't have that trust built up. >> mr. kerik let me ask you in a slightly different way and posit this. do you think had the police in some way, shape or form, told the officer's story, remember, we didn't hear from the officer. we got "sources say," had they said look, an investigation is ongoing. here's what the police officer tells us, they might have mitigated some of this all
along, because the first thing, no offense, the police tend to do when there's something that's one of their own is immediately close up and not say anything. >> i disagree. >> candy -- >> i disagreed with that from the beginning. i think within the first 24 to 36 hours once they have a basic synopsis of what happened, and they will know that, and let me stop for a second, because whatever information you get initially within that first hour, two hours, 99% of the time is wrong. so you want to wait until you get all your facts together 24, 36 hours, and then you go out publicly and you let the public know, you let the community know this is what we believe happened, and i think in this case, had they done that, i think they would have been a lot better off. >> go ahead chief, craig, you're trying to get in here on that one? >> right, candy,ist just going to -- it causes me to reflect back on my time as cincinnati's chief. now it's no secret cincinnati
had a civil unrest in 2001 and from that a consent judgment, but a contract with the community, and during my time as chief there, we had a tragic situation where a white officer shot a 16-year-old suspect who was armed with a gun, and that could have been a tragic situation, the wounds in cincinnati were closing but still somewhat open, but the key was that cincinnati does a great job and has, getting out in front of it, talking about the incident, and in this instance, because it was involving this 16-year-old, i went as far -- two things i did. i went for the first time and visited with the mom of that 16-year-old. that probably was one of the most challenging things that i have ever had to do in my policing career to talk to a mom about her dead son a a son that we shot, but more importantly, the fact that i invited the
family in to look at the video, and video of the incident, and we had not one incident that came from that. trust is key, and they believed in the department, they believed in the chief, and so that goes a long way moving forward. >> let me ask you all what effect ferguson has had, if any, on your relationships in your city between the police and minorities, or in the squad room itself. >> it's had an -- i think it's had an impact in just about every police department in this country, and the good news is that you know, with as many outreach activities that we engage in on a regular basis with all segments of the community, this really gave it a shot in the arm, and we had people contacting us saying hey, we'd like to talk, have this conversation, and ferguson started a lot of conversations about policing, and so we had
folks reaching out to us inviting us to come speak with them, so i think there's been at least that positive aspect of what ferguson has done to police departments around the country. >> have you noticed the same thing? but have you also -- has there been any increased tensions? >> of course. this magnified the greater whole of the united states. it was across social media. it's on every media station. it played out in conversations across the united states and every segment that i've seen. this marked a third turning point of the rodney king, the 911, and now ferguson sparks a national conversation on police shootings in action, community conversations, and the
conversation has restarted so there's no backtracking. you have to either step up to the plate and believe in a real and true community policing philosophy, or you'll get left behind, and that's what you've seen in ferguson, inability what the commissioner was talking about, the inability to get out front, failing to get out front, failing to build community relations. failing to let the public at hand know what actually occurred and not expecting that a candlelight vigil will turn into a protest turned violent and you are still left in the dark because you haven't even started your planning. so it's marked a greater turning point for us in law enforcement >> let me ask you, commissioner, i have to take a break soon but i wanted you to lead us into the next part of our conversation, and that is about this relationship and establishing this relationship. when you look at the statistics there, you can sit back and say, i understand exactly why the black community looks at the, you know, percentage wise, there are more young black men in jail than young white men. nationwide, more black males are killed by police than white males.
it goes on and on and on, and the first place justice begins it on that street, and ferguson looked like, to the minority commute looked like a failure. can you understand, coming from a minority community, how these figures would look at and think they're targeting our kids? >> yes, i can, and i get it. i understand it, and i think that's one of the things that's going to come out of here, as the chief was talking about. that's the lessons, that's some of the lessons that's going to be learned, how we communicate with the communities. i think there's a bunch of lessons that come out of this, how we get that information out to the community, how we deal with the community in advance, how we respond to incidents like this. i was extremely critical of the department's response in that first day, how they came out you know, there was actually a
peaceful protest, and they came out, i think, aggressively, too aggressively in the aftermath, when it wasn't a protest, and it was an outright riot, i think they could have been a little more aggressive. i think these are all things that we can learn from this, and the key is a dialogue with the community. the real community leaders. because in this situation i don't think anybody would disagree, you may have had some relationship with the community and the real leaders, but a lot of this, you know, a lot of this chaos and the arson and the burglaries and robberies and shootings in the protests came from outside. so it's extremely important that this intervention between the police and the community happens up front. >> i got to take a quick break here. when we come back, we know communication is one of the keys they think here and we hope police departments everywhere are listening to that as well as the community. we want to talk about some other steps, right after the break.
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chief thomas manger and dallas deputy police chief malik aziz, former nypd police chief bernard kerik and detroit police chief james craig. chief craig, let me start this with you and then go to chief aziz, and that is there are also studies that show that black p officers have also, you know, shot minorities, and have had complaints against them, and it makes me wonder whether this is about race or this is about power. >> you know, that's a great point, candy, because in my tenure, looking back, rarely do you hear the outcry if it is a black officer involved in the shooting and the suspect is black. it is always the reverse. so, it doesn't mean that you can't follow the same steps. you know, when i look back and
we talk about ferguson today, and i think back about detroit in the '70s and where detroit came from in terms of building the trust-based relationships, it would not matter whether the officer was black or white given the inner city is 80% african-american, but it certainly fuels it. i think back about malis green in the '90s, in the early '90s where malis green, a black suspect, was beaten by white officers. certainly that fueled a lot of anger but there was no civil unrest. now of course, both officers were convicted as a result of that, unlike in the rodney king affair that, you know, the officers were acquitted, but that said, detroit still didn't have any outcry. there was some peaceful demonstrations, of course, and even here in ferguson, the die -- dialogue has restarted, and like most cities in america, we
have had our protests. >> right. >> but they've all been peaceful, and that's based on relationship. >> right. do you think this s look, a a certain personality becomes a law enforcement officer, right? there just are, and there is the power to enforce. >> going back and echoing some of the things that the chief just spoke about, there's been a great mistrust and we still hang on to some of the vestiges of the past, and some of the police tactics of the past still haunt us in many of the diverse neighborhoods, because in the history of the policing, they have not always done the right things, and that fuels the fire. so in a new age of policing, when progressive chiefs come
about, and then they say to longer will we have this bull kind of 1960s style of policing, where you don't matter,r and you operate on a thin blue line, where it's us against them, that placates the problem. it exacerbates the problem in minority communities and then when communities that are predominantly of color like ferguson who is 65% or 70% african-american, yet only 3 of 50 police officers are black, diversity plays a key role in breaking down the barriers and those things that challenge the modern policing. >> it's interesting that you say certain personality is drawn to law enforcement the. one of the responsibilities that all chiefs have is to make sure we're hiring the right people, and some of the characteristics that you look for should be
those inner personal skills, the ability to communicate, empathy, integrity, those kinds of things that you can determine if a person has before you hire them. we can train people how to deescalate a situation. we can train people with racial, cultural, ethnic sensitivities. we can train people about the law, you know, knowing what you can do, what you can't do, how you're supposed to do things, but you want to hire the right people in the first place that have those personality traits that would make them good police officers. >> exactly. >> but it does matter -- >> candy -- >> imagery matters. why are there not more african-american policemen in montgomery county, in dallas, even in detroit, the majority, it's not the majority but the plurality are white police officers. why is that so? >> you know what? candy, it depends on the communities. i know there are communities on the east coast that have tried unsuccessfully to get more african-americans into the departments, and it's, sometimes it's a cultural issue. it's an anti-police issue. you know, in some of the harder-hit urban areas, many of the black males they have criminal records. they can't get past the backgrounds.
they can't get into the departments based on civil service and it depends on the requirements of the department. they can't get in, but i would say there aren't many departments, and the chief is in charge of the major city chiefs now, there aren't many departments that aren't looking to make sure that their department represents their communities. >> you know, we have actually better luck getting african-american officers than latino and asian. if you want to reflect the diversity of your community, i'll tell you, we've got some real cultural issues but you have got to find folks that have this sense of service that, want to make their community a better place. those are the ones you need to target to recruit and hire. >> i think it's problematic in a lot of places the system is so
subjective, even culturally, turning people away and i think also african-americans in this age in this time frame are teaching their kids to become something more than police officers or firefighters, they're teaching them saying become a doctor or a lawyer. we have plenty of qualified people able to be law enforcement officers and sometimes they get turned away at the door for the most subjective reasons you could imagine. >> chief craig, i'm going to give you a last question here, because i am totally out of time, which happens with you all, all the time, so i should have you on for longer. there was a picture that went viral this week of a young african-american, 12 years old, hugging a white police officer. i believe this was in portland, oregon. it was touching. it was lovely. if you go online, you will see lots of mothers worried sick and the mother of this child, worried sick about what police will do to their young boys, afraid of what will happen to them. please talk to those mothers right now about the relationship
between black and blue. >> well, that picture, that picture represents the vast majority of police officers in america. when we talk about these anomalies, as i would like to refer to them as, this is not reflective of policing. what comes to mind for me here in detroit, our detroit police officers, not on an occasional basis but routinely, we had a tragic shooting of a 7-year-old in september. detroit police officers quickly placed her in the rear seat of that scout car and transported her to the hospital where she was treated. had it not been for their decisive actions, that little girl might not live today. >> right. >> so my point is that's the reflection, and these were white officers. if we just want to put race on it, that that reflects what our police officers are truly about. >> police chief james craig, i want to thank you, coming to us from detroit, and i want to note
that here around the table, former nypd commissioner bernard kerik, chief thomas manger, and of course malik aziz, all nodded when you said "that is much more reflective of what police are doing than not." they agree with you. gentlemen, thank you all. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. as president obama looks to his final years in office, he's dealing with a republican congress, a series of crises abroad and diminishing political influence. our roundtable is next.
wilson. >> i have kconvened a task forc of civilians and police members to review complaints to the police force. they will meet weekly and the efforts are under way. this ground-breaking initiatives is one of the first of its kind in the region. we are also dedicated to improving the relations of the ferguson police department and the youth. the police chief is going to be committed to the youth for police explorer youth programs for the youth and the surrounding districts. the police explorer unit will be implemented in the schools in the fall of 2015. third, the city of ferguson a has established a scholarship program to recruit african-american candidates to attend the african-american community to be a scholarship to repaid to the scity of ferguson
after the completion of the academy, and this is a proactive step to be more proactive to be more reflective of the demographic of our community. and also, pfor the officers of the city of ferguson in 2015 we will pass an ordinance for the stipend of $200 to $300 per month por officers living in our community to encouraging the police sufficient officer -- police officers to live in the city of ferguson to make sure they are vested in the community in which they serve. over the past 15 years, the city of ferguson has faced issues of xus dus because of urban sprawl, the foreclosure and the housing i crisis and two devastating foreign does and the city of ferguson has found a way to succeed in the face of long odds. and in every instance, our city,
our citizens and our businesses have come through stronger than before. while the current situation that we face is different, those same characteristics that have sustained us in the past will he help to carries through in the future. for the dedicated people who call the city of ferguson home, we are recommitted to rebuilding the city and to once again becoming a thriving community for economic development and residential stability, we are working hard with local and regional partners to re-establish resources available to you shortly and in the near futu future, and to the business owners who are entrepreneurs pursuing the american dream and whether you provide a sur -- provide a service or operate a boutique or car shop you are not forgotten, and we will not leave any rock unturned to find the resources to help you rebuild. stay strong and do not give up. we are e here for you and we
will not leave you. i will now entertain a few questions. >> mr. mayor, you said that in ferguson, there were threats of violence, and can you explain what they were and written or calls or and is that why mr. wilson decided to resign? >> well, it is widely published and it is against many of the city officials, and including officer wilson himself, and so many of that has been in the media for some time. >> and nothing specific about that we were hearing about from the deadline that the resignation has come? >> not that i am aware of. >> and i know that the attorney general is calling for the wholesale change, a san diego chief jackson planning to resign and other changes there? >> there is currently no other changes in the leadership planned, and we are obviously awaiting the outcome of the patterns in practice, and investigation from the department of justice, and so, but we are awaiting that statement from them.
>> chief, can we ask you a question about that? there has been a lot of the discussion about people supposedly wanting you out. what it is like for you to hearing about the future of your job ban tied about in the national media? >> well, my focus really has always been on the safety and the security of the city of ferguson and its it citizens, a you know, i report to the leadership of ferguson, and so, it is them and the citizens, and i'm concerned about their opinion. >> are you going to resign, sir? >> no. >> can you expand about your conversation with officer wilson? >> again, it is a threatening environment all along and everybody knows that. i have not spoken to officer wilson since prior to to the shooting so this is the first conversation, and we touched on a lot of subjects and caught up, but there is no specific threat at that time. >> and when did that conversation take place? >> earlier this week. >> did either of you talk about the threats that have been made
against officers on the line of duty and any ptsd counsel torg treatment made available to some of the public officials or the officers, because we have been out there and seen what is going on? >> sure, sure. and i know that some of you have been victims of that as well, and it is ongoing with the officers, and of course, it takes its toll on them. the threats have been egregious. and, yes, counseling is available for the officers. >> and can you tell us about the the -- [ inaudible ] -- >> no, he is no longer an employee here at the city of ferguson, and again, no severance agreement or extension of any benefits or payments. >> and sir, you talked about the talking last week with officer wilson, and was there any discussion with officer wilson or the officer wilson's representatives, would you
characterize his leaving as negotiations, and were you trying to arrange for him to leave? >> well, he has expressed the interest in trying to figure out what his future would be here, and that is an ongoing conversation that we had, but to really, it is a personal matter. >> do you think that it is best for ferguson that he is not on the force? >> i think that it is best at this point that we we move on as a community, and officer wilson and his family have moved on, and at this point the city of ferguson is going to be talking about how to bring this community together. >> and did you ask for his resignation? >> pardon me? >> did you or the chief ask for his resignation? >> no. >> were you frustrated that you did not get this letter for two hours -- >> well, i have been frustrate ed by h many things that the media has gotten before we have gotten it, but there was a delay before we were notified, but again, we had to have it in hand before we could say it was
official. >> and what did you make about the attorneys saying that there was a deadline on a saturday nigh night, and that is the timing, and you are saying that is not the case. >> well, i mean, i don't know if anybody made a threat and gave him a deadline, and i mean, we did not give him a threat or deadline and if there is a group or someone who did, i am not aware of that intelligence, but it may be the case. >> and from the police officer standpoint had officer wilson decided not to resign, do you believe he could have realistically continued on as an officer given the climate? >> sorry about that. well sh well, it is realistically something that we don't have to speculate on, so i won't do that. >> and can you talk about the initiative to recruit more minority officers, and what kind of deadline and the scholarship, and something to happen immediately or something for
next year -- can you talk more about that? >> well, we we have to be proactive with that, because obviously, it takes a while to get through the academy, and we want the officers to be available when we have positions open in the department. that is something that the chief is currently working on to how this is available with the next class at the academy, and again, these are people who are pre-hired essentially, and so there a process for that to decide who it is that gets that -- >> pre-hired, what do you mean by that? >> n ga, these are individuals that we are going to be paying for the go through the academy, because we want them to work for the city of ferguson as a police officer, so essentially pre-hired and then successfully complete the academy, and in turn, they will work it off, so to speak by working for the city of ferguson. >> and last question. >> mayor, as the city start ss rebuild, who, looking back, is there any one decision or one
person to look at, and is there a damage estimate of the city at this point? >> there is not a damage estimate of the city, and there are other cities in the region, and several cities damaged as part of the monday night events. i'm not looking to point fingers and blame any individual at this time. i think that it is important to look at going forward how to stop it from happening in the future, and that we can start to bring the community together to bring a more stable environment here for us in this region, and i think it is important though to look back at some point, and figure out what we did right and wrong, and what we can do better in the future. >> and now -- this question right here. >> to stop the rise and the protest, and we see them every night, and is the resignation going to be enough? >> well, as far as the city is concerned, we have severed ties with officer darren wilson, and it is important to talk about the issues relat ting to the ci
of ferguson and it is important the talk about the issues addressed as a city and how to bring the community together, and we are recognized there are a lot of issues that may involve other communities or the region or the state or the federal government, and people are going to continue to express frustration, and work for change in the outlets, but i hope that people understand that the city of ferguson has been responsive and has lis evtened and have started to make change, and it will hopefully bring the community together, and others will recognize that going forward. >> right here. >> yes, sir. >> any plans to recruit the officers within the vicinity and the area that could certify that you could quickly bring them into the work in the area in? well, it is a long-standing ordinance in the city of ferguson that we give priority to residents of ferguson, so absolutely if we have good and
qualified people who are r residents of ferguson, they will get the first crack at jobs in our city, and that wouldn't change for law enforcement. >> anything special to give them to come to this area to move them in? >> well, sure. i mean, you are going to get a nice little stipend that wow would not have gotten if you stayed where you are, so if we hired someone from the surrounding community, and decided to move into our comm e community, obviously, a stipend for that. and being a community of our size, it is difficult to require residen residency, but we can incentivize it. >> and considering what we have been through since august, how hard to be somebody who wants to be a police officer in ferguson, missouri? >> well, i know that the ferguson, police officers and the officers who have stood by us and dedicated to the job, and they are proud to be be ferguson police officers -- >> and recruitment.
>> i know, but within the law enforcement community, i don't believe that they -- there is a concern there. i think that the people who want to be law enforcement officers want to serve and be dedicated to the community, and i have no doubt that people are dedicated to that job would also be interested in doing for it the city of ferguson. take care. >> thank you, ladies and gentlemen. okay. you been listening to the mayor of ferguson, missouri, james knowles and also in the news conference that we saw, we heard a little bit from the police chief tom jackson and basically, they came on to talk first of all about yesterday's resignation of the police officer darren wilson, and he of course was the police officer who four months ago shot an unarmed 18-year-old black man. he listed the mayor listed in fact, several things other than that saying that first of all, wilson gets no severance, a nd
that relationship is over, and went on to describe several things that the city is now going to do to try to bring more african-american officers into the ferguson force to try to help rebuild in ferguson, and to try to reach out to the community, and so i want to bring in ed lavandara who has bp on the streets for us, and at that news conference today. ed, thank you for being here. you know, you look at this, and it makes a certain amount of sense. they are going to triple the stipend that the police get monthly if they live in ferguson, and that would certainly help them to be a part of the community, and get rid of say, $3,600 a year, and a scholarship program for african-americans who go to the police academy which is repaid if you come to work at ferguson, and the citizen review board and school programs to reach out to the children, and what is the immediate effect if any, and clearly these are things that take place over the next year or two, and will it have an effect on the streets?
>> well, you know, it is interesting, because they are long-term ideas that will take some time to implement, and some time to see it probably, the fruit fruits of the labor, but it is interesting, because i remember being back here in august and the very things that i talked about today are the very things that activists in the community talked about as well, and the fact that many police officers don't necessarily live in ferguson and come here to work and leave and the mayor said not necessarily vested in the community, and the things that we have heard over the course of the last few months, and i think that will resonate based on the conversations that we have had with a lot of people over the past few months, and that is something that will take a long time, and especially talking about the recruiting of the african-american police officers into a force that was only 3 of nearly 60 police officer, and lot of work that needs to be done on that front. you know, the mayor striking a tone, and striking forward to
get, trying to get the tense moments of the last 3 1/2 months behind them in moving on. >> and sure. and a lot of talk of ferguson listening to us, and we know that the businesses are hurting, and we will help you to rebuild, and stick with us, and stay with us, and city under siege really, and certainly the violent protests, and really for 3 1/2 mont months, the scrutiny and the looking at it, and it seemed to me that the mayor left open the possibility of more resignations, and the police chief who said that he had no intentions to resign, but the door is slightly ajar. >> well, that is after the news of darren wilson's resignation, and something that a vast majority of the supporters knew would be happening and a lot of the attention has turned to the police chief, and we have heard from a lot of people here in the commu community who have been saying for the last 3 1/2 months that the police chief needs to go as well, and the police chief said
that he has no intention of resign i resigning, and it is going to be interesting is over the next few months how it plays into the program, and the task force of building more relationships with the police force and the african-american community here in ferguson and younger people across the community, but it is with one of those outstanding issues, and it could change at any moment as we move forward, but, you know, like i said that we have heard from a lot of people that the police chief should go, and he is saying here again that he is not going anywhere. >> and the justice department investigation going on as well into the patterns and the practices of the police department in ferguson. ed, i know that you will be reporting throughout the day, and stick with us. we will be right back. you won't take our future.
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