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put this in perspective for us, if you would. >> it's two strong quarters in a row. the second quarter was 4.6% growth, that is solid growth. the third quarter 5%, much higher than economists and the commerce department first expected. consumers are spending more. you've got businesses investing in property and in technology and that is really pushing things forward here in the third quarter. so that shows you an economy that's shifting into higher gear. it shows you some confidence in the economy. it also corresponds nicely with the strength we've seen in job creation recently. when you look at the fact you've got gas prices so low here. you've got hiring continuing heading into the end of the year and a third quarter economic growth read like this, it's very good news. that economic growth the strongest since 2003. think about that, that's 11 years the strongest case of economic growth. one other number we got november durable goods, that would be a little bit after the timing of
this report, november durable goods, those were not as robust as expected, so that could show maybe a little bit less robust growth in the fourth quarter, it's too soon to know. futures in the stock market are up right now suggesting you could be on track for even more record highs in the stock market right now. so take a look at the things going for the american consumer and investor. low gas prices, falling heating oil price, less to heat their home, a stock market record after record, a strong year for the stock market and job growth seeing the economy is stronger. >> an early christmas present. christine romans thank you so much, appreciate it. so this morning, police departments across the nation are warning their officers to take extra precautions. some are even making changes after saturday's massacre of two new york city police officers. in massachusetts the paboston herald strait troopers are urged to wear body armor, not let
anyone approach their cruiser while they're seated inside and watch for suspects who appear to be conducting surveillance of officers. in dallas, the focus is on having officers ride in pairs. wfaa reports dallas officers are being advised not to place themselves in situations where they could be outnumbered. in new york, officers are also being directed to work in pairs. union leaders say it's important to put their own safety first and to respond to every call with two cars and not to make arests unless absolutely necessary. the "new york times" reports the president of the detectives union told members to work in threes on the street and always to wear bulletproof vests. alexandra field is in the brooklyn neighborhood where the two officers were gunned down over the weekend. alexand alexandra, what other extra security measures are you learning about there? >> reporter: what we're hearing has to do with the new year's eve celebration in times square. there will be added security there. this say big security operation every year but so many officers
who are there to secure it and their safety is top of mind. we have seen so many officers come here to this memorial, take a moment to stop to reflect and pay tribute, to leave flowers. you know they are thinking about their fallen comrades but also have to be somewhere in the back of their minds or front, thinking about their own safety. they know their fellow officers were targeted simply for the yoormz th uniforms they wore. the city is grieving and for the first time hearing from the widow of officer liu. here's what she said. >> the liu family would like to express our appreciation to the police department, our neighbors, the entire new york city community, friends and co-workers for the help and support they provide. we would also like to express
our condolences to the officer ramos' family. this is a difficult time for both of our families. but we will stand together and get through this together. thank you. >> officer liu's widow, showing incredible courage in her ability to come out and put these words together at this time. we understand from the liu family that they are waiting to make funeral arrangements until more of their relatives arrive from china. as for officer ramos his family plans to hold a funeral on saturday. >> alexandra, certainly now we know that the mayor, mayor bill de blasio is calling for calm asking protesters not to protest. how is that being received on the streets? >> reporter: this is interesting, randi. we know he has sort of shifted his tone here initially before the two officers were gunned down, the mayor had been
criticized for supporting the protesters and demonstrators who have been out in the city the last few weeks. yesterday was the first time we've heard him take a stronger stance asking people to lay off the demonstrations to hold off to allow the families some time to grieve, to pay respects and tribute. this comes on the heels of the union saying that the mayor has blood on his hands for the death of these officers. so some people are saying is the mayor reversing course, trying to find a middle ground here that's going to resonate differently for different people but certainly doesn't erase any of the tensions that we are seeing between the union and the mayor's office. the mayor hoping people will stay off the streets. at the same time, randi, that may not be the case. we are already seeing social media reports suggesting that some people could protest out here in new york city later today. >> alexandra field, thanks very much for the update from there. >> one of the daughters of eric garner is showing her support to the families of the slain officers. 22-year-old emerald garner placed a candle yesterday at the makeshift memorial for officers
rafael ramos and wenjin liu. she says after losing her own father in july at the hand of police she understands what the officers are going through right now. >> i just wanted to, you know, come out here and let the families know that, you know, i, too, understand what's going on. i lost my dad before the holiday season so i know how they feel. i know that this is a great loss. eight going to be hard this holiday season, but we're just asking everybody to stay strong, stay with us, be peaceful. this is an unfortunate tragedy that didn't have to happen. >> garner also said her dad was a peaceful man and would not approve of anyone using violence in his name. authorities have broken up an alleged gun smuggling ring between two of the world's busiest airports. two men including a baggage handler for delta airlines have been charged with sneaking 131 weapons in carry-on bags on flights from hartsfield airport
in atlanta to jfk new york. weapons included ak-47s and ar-15s and what's more, some of them were actually loaded. the arrest warrant calls the operation "one of the biggest security breaches in recent years." cnn aviation correspondent rene marsh joins me live to talk more about this. rene, the question i guess is on a lot of people's minds, how could a guy get guns onto flights in a carry-on backpack? how can this happen today? >> that is the big question, and really, when you hear the details, it's an alarming breach in airport security. here's how it happened according to investigators. the gun supplier was an atlanta-based delta airlines baggage handler. his name, eugene harvey. he used his airport security clients to bypass security checkpoints and get the guns into the secure area. once his accomplice, who was a former delta employee, mark henry, cleared tsa, the two men would communicate via text
message, meet in an airport bathroom where the transfer would happen and that, randi, is how more than 100 guns were smuggled onto passenger planes with others on board during a seven-month period. investigators eventually closed in on this ring, on this scheme earlier this month. they arrested henry once he landed at jfk and here's a breakdown of what they found. he had 18 handguns in his bag, seven of them were loaded. as you mentioned off the top, a total of 129 handguns, two assault rivals were smuggled in this operation. they were being sold on the streets. the problem is, they did not realize that the buyer was an undercover cop. it happened at least five times where they smuggled these guns onto delta airplanes traveling from atlanta to new york. i have reached out to atlanta hartsfield about the security procedures, and whether changes are coming, because this really does come down to an airport security issue.
that employee had access to the secure area. it opens the question, is there a loophole here that allows this sort of thing to happen? >> yes, and to think that a handful of them, more than a handful of them were loaded, it's pretty incredible. is this happening at other times? it took them a while to discover this. any idea how often this is happening whether it's with guns or weapons or even drugs? >> yes, you know, it does happen. it's happened before and cnn has covered it before in the past, and that's the other alarming thing. you look as far back as 2009, we've done stories on this, 2010. most recently we know that an airtran employee was sentenced to ten years. in that case, investigators say that this individual agreed to smuggle a machine gun as well as cocaine on board a commercial airplane. here's what the situation is. oftentimes airline and airport workers, they undergo security vetting process and then they receive badges that give them
access to the secure or even the restricted parts of the airport and not required to be screened on a daily basis by tsa at many airports so now many calling into question whether that is the proper procedure. randi? >> what is delta's response in all of this? >> the airline says they are cooperating with the investigation, and they're leaving it at that but again, they say they're supplying investigators with whatever info that they need. >> all right, certainly a frightening thought. rene marsh, thank you for bringing us up to date on that. >> still to come a music publishing firm representing big threats, remove youtube videos for face a billion-dollar lawsuit. ♪
life, expressed tremendous respect for the nypt. it's very well documented. i will continue to. i also think in a democracy that people express their desire for a more fair society and that's right and proper as well but they must do it peacefully, no violence and certainly no violence against those who protect us and who represent our society. the police are our protectors and they must be respected as such. >> the new york mayor bill de blasio is facing harsh criticism in the wake of the two slain police officers. the nypd turning their backs on him accusing him of having blood on his hands. an op-ed in the "new york times" is calling those slander and writing the protesters and their defenders including mayor de blasio need offer no apologies for denouncing misguided and brutal police tactics and deploring the evident injustice
of the deaths of unarmed black men like eric garner. it went on to say all of this mistrust is clouding at hand and distrust building for years. >> reporter: a shocking moment, as new york mayor bill de blasio entered the hospital saturday where the mortally injured officers were taken, fellow police turned their backs on him, a powerful and divisive message to the mayor of this major city who has lost their trust. noel leader was a new york city cop for 20 years. >> i've never seen hostilities this heightened before in my career. >> reporter: one nypd union, the patrolmen's benevolent association has been withering in its attacks on de blasio. >> there's blood on many hands tonight, that blood on the hands starts on the steps of city hall in the office of the mayor. >> reporter: he and his organization representing beat
cops blame the mayor for the way he's handled recent protests. the lack of indictment of police in the killing of michael brown in ferguson, missouri, first set off angry protests here. they grew angrier, protesters calling for the killing of police after a jury in new york failed to indict police over the killing of eric garner after he was stopped for selling loose cigarettes. in the midst of the protest firestorm, de blasio shared his feelings about talking to his own mixed race son about how he should deal with police. >> we've had to literally train him as families have all over this city for decades, in how to take special care in any encounter he has with the police officers who are there to protect him. >> reporter: perhaps what angered police most, protesters given free reign of the city for
several nights and one incident, several protesters on the brooklyn bridge physically assaulted an nypd officer. so upset over the mayor's handling of the protests, on december 12th, well before these current killings, the police benevolent association asked officers to sign a letter to the mayor, asking him not to attend funerals of officers in the event they were killed on duty. >> when an individual who is the executive of the city does not have the cooperation of his own police force, it puts the citizens at a dangerous place, and when you hear some of the rhetoric by the union president that, only raises the level of frustration. >> reporter: tension between police and de blasio started before he took office in january over new york's stop and frisk policy. at its height in 2011, nearly 700,000 new yorkers stopped for so-called suspicious behavior. 87% of them black or latino. de blasio made ending the policy
a cornerstone of his campaign. >> i believe that the long-term security needs of the city require moving away from the overuse of stop and frisk. >> reporter: the practice ended by a federal judge in 2013, and supported by the new de blasio administration has been a sore point for police and its unions, who view the practice as successful in curbing crime here and preventing everything from petty crime to terrorism in the future. miguel marquez, cnn, new york. and we will talk to a former new york city police commissioner about how he would resolve these tensions, coming your way next.
♪ hope you have your dancing shoes on this morning. battle is looming over the freedom of the internet and rights of musicians. caught in the middle the songs that you love. global music rights run by industry titan irving asov is demanding youtube remove almost 20,000 videos for face a billion-dollar lawsuit. global music rights represents
about 40 writers such as pharrell williams, the eagle, john lenin. the service to compete against spotify and pandora would charge users $10 a month for upgraded audio and no ads. mel robbins is here to talk about it along with samuel burke, who is also joining us. lots to talk about here. samuel, youtube is defending its posting of the videos. what is youtube saying? >> let's lay this out. who would have thought itunes and downloading music is now old school. new school is streaming music on spotify, pandora and youtube. whether it's taylor swift or beyonce, they need more money from the services and unlike taylor swift they're not just going to shake it off. they want a cut of the pie. >> very clever. >> i'll tell you what youtube
has been telling us about this potential lawsuit. youtube had a statement a while back randi, they said we've done dealing with labels, publishers, collection societies and more to bring artists into music to achieve our goal making sure the music will work with the music community and music fans. they want the music on, they don't want to be in the same position as taylor swift and have blarng spaces on their service the way spot guy does. >> if it goes to court, does youtube have a chance here? >> because there's something called the digital millennium copyright act which congress put in place that basically provides youtube with a couple arguments for what they call a safe harbor, meaning if they host certain music under four different requirements, randi, they're not going to be infringing. however, as samuel was saying, this is a pretty interesting case, because youtube is
launching a streaming service to compete with spotify and pandora, and basically, the nuts and bolts of the lawsuit are this. youtube has negotiated for the rights to stream certain music as part of the library, and all that this lawsuit is saying, you may have talked to the record label but you didn't talk to the songwriter. we want a piece of it, too. what you might see is an injunction delaying the release of music key until this is resolved. >> you talk about music key, we have spotify, pandora, all of the music services streaming. is there room for another one like music key? >> that's a big question. youtube is a big brand. they've been aggressive in all aspects of video. with the brand recognition alone they should get some market share but pandora is incredibly popular, a number one service in the united states and spotify is number one worldwide, but maybe if they give the artists and the songwriters more money then maybe they can get more leverage and have more music. i want to point out one fact "happy" is the most streamed
song of the year by pharrell williams played 43 million times on pandora. he got just $2,700 for all of those. this could be something if the competing services could get more money to the artist, they might have more selection. >> maybe there's a happy medium. >> you asked about market share. keep in mind you were saying that spotify is the largest globally. they only have 10 million subscribers. pandora close to 3 million. youtube gets 1 billion unique visitors a month, so the ability for youtube to market its own streaming service to 1 billion unique people coming to their site a month is extraordinary. there is a major amount of money here. >> google does something, they go all in. >> but in this digital age, what are the rights of these songwriters? >> well, you know, it's changing. it's as rapidly as people are adopting new technology, the entire body of jurisprudence around digital rights is
changing and we were talking before we were on air about how the heck are artists going to possibly protect themselves when you can easily copy a video. you can easily copy an mp3 file, and one of the things that i'm wondering in my head as an entrepreneur is maybe somebody's going to create a digital watermark the way they've done with photos. >> they started to do that on youtube. one thing we should be clear about, even though taylor swift pulled her music from spotify, none of the big music titans think that streaming is not going to work. they know it's going to work and that's why they're pulling the music now because they want their leverage and want to get their muse you can on there but they want their piece of the pie along with it. it's all about the benjamins. >> if it's 43 million times your song is getting played and getting almost $3,000. >> remember when the artists hated itunes and now begging for it. taylor says puts her music on there over spotify. >> keep us up-to-date. mel, samuel, nice to see you.
the wood stod arts festival was marked by legendary performances but no one made a bigger splash than joe cocker. ♪ what would you do if i sang out of tune ♪ ♪ would you stand up and walk out on me ♪ ♪ lend me your ear and i'll -- >> sounds like a black middle aged singer from the american south. not like the lad that he was. the sandpaper and tarred voice set him apart and also set up up for some ribbing at the time. joe cocker passed the test of time musically. the mad dogs of englishmen tour in 1970 brought him huge success in the u.s., as the decade went on, cocker was brought down by substance abuse. he turned his life around in the '80s winning a grammy for the duet "up where we belong." cocker's career spanned six decades and 40 albums. he died yesterday in his
colorado ranch of lung cancer. joe cocker was 70 years old. ♪ you are so beautiful to me [ cheers and applause ] ♪ sea captain: there's a narratorstorm cominhe storm narrator: that whipped through the turbine which poured... surplus energy into the plant which generously lowered its price and tipped off the house which used all that energy to stay warm through the storm.
[ bell ringing ] welcome back. we are keeping a very close eye on wall street as the opening bell rings under the glimmer of some good economic news. this morning we have learned the u.s. economy grew 5% in the third quarter, the fastest rate since 2003. chief business correspondent christine romans is tracking the breaking story for us. >> the dow up 50 points above 18,000 so you see the big 18,000 number on the big board. look, the stock market has been telling us randi for months that
the economy was gathering momentum. the stock market has been setting record after record after record. the dow up 8% this year. the s&p 500 up 12%. the s&p 500 your stocks and your 401(k) most likely look like the s&p 500. the nasdaq 14%, and then you get this confirmation today from the commerce department that economic growth in the third quarter was the strongest since 2003. two very robust quarters of economic growth in the u.s. job creation, low gas prices, all of this kind of a magic elixir at the end of the year. starting january 1st, there will be 20 states with higher minimum wages so even as people have been worried about wages not growing, even as the economy has been growing so robustly, many states will have higher minimum wages in the beginning of the year, more money in people's pockets, so at least for now, dow 18,000 reflecting what has been an economy ratcheting into higher gear. >> no surprise but something to
celebrate. >> it is something to celebrate. many people would like to see wages go up a little bit more. investments have gone up very nicely. gas prices lower, job creation kicking in had. we have to see how it carries through the end of the year. >> christine thank you for that good news. let's get back to one our top story this is morning, the possible hack of north korea's internet. someone or something has been repeatedly wiping the entire country off the internet for the last 4 hours. look at this graphic from research. the white gaps show when north korea's internet is out, intermiddent outages are to be expected about you this is out of the ordinary. at its peak, north korea was offline for more than nine hours. who might have unplugged north korea? well, all eyes are most likely on the u.s. right now, giving the escalating war of words between the two nations over that massive cyber attack on sony pictures. elise labott is live in washington to talk more about this. what, if anything, are u.s.
officials saying? >> reporter: they're saying nothing, randi, being coy about what happened saying don't ask us, talk to the north koreans about it. take a listen to deputy spokesman marie harp when asked about these allegations and also about the u.s. response for this hacking. you remember president obama said it would be proportional. >> as the president said, we are considering a range of options in response. we aren't going to discuss publicly operational details about the possible response options or comments on the reports in any way except to say that as we implement our responses, some will be seen, some may not be seen. >> reporter: so some will be unseen, obviously all eyes looking towards the united states, but experts say this is consistent with some kind of internet shutdown. it doesn't mean that 100% that the u.s. was behind it. of course, it could mean that china, north korean internet goes through, the chinese telecom shut off the internet or
it could be north korea itself trying to fend off a potential hacking or cyber attack and shutting off their own internet band. >> the timing is certainly curious, though. is the u.s. do you think inching towards cyber warfare with north korea or are we already there? >> well, obviously we don't know if the u.s. has done anything yet so we don't know if we're inside but don't forget, north korean internet is very small and not necessarily in north korea. so if the u.s. wanted to do some kind of proportional attack, they would have to go after hackers in china, in thailand, things where this actual hacking went through. so it doesn't, we don't really know if the u.s. is going to do that, because that would involve relations impinging on the sovereignty of other countries. i think the u.s. officials tell us are looking at sanctions on north korean officials, banking entities, along the lines of what the u.s. did with russian president putin, after his actions in ukraine. so i think there will be some
response whether we'll be in the cyber realm we don't know yet. >> elise labott, appreciate that, thank you very much. let me bring in brian stiller it, host of "reliable sources" to talk more about this. the talk of threats and the hacks and all of this happening between the u.s. and north korea, really the timing is interesting, coming two days before "the interview" was supposed to release. >> was supposed to release. >> but do americans think that maybe sony overreacted or the theaters overreacted? >> we have a new revealing poll from cnn and six out of ten americans think there was an overreaction here, and men think so more so than women. there's the data. 36% say sony made the right decision. 62% say it was an overreaction. that's noteworthy. sony says it wasn't their fault. it was the theater owner chains that decided not to show the movie so sony had to choice. now they're in talks with possible distributors about how to get the movie shown. i checked in, no news this morning but maybe by the end of the year we'll have some sort of
distribution deal in place. >> what about independent theaters, they've been offering to release the film. >> this is where it's interesting. there's a groundswell of support for the movie, we want to hold screenings of it. i is ayou this comment on facebook from an owner of a theater in washington, d.c., he says, as the operator of an independent theater the west end cinema i refuse to allow bullies to dictate what i can and cannot show, this is a petition online, more than 200 signatures on it from art house cinema owners who say we want to show the movie and there's also calls in congress, a democrat from california, brad sherman, sent a letter to sony yesterday saying he wants to hold a screening on capitol hill. he wants to send a signal that the congress has freedom of expression. his letter went out to sony yesterday. their office hasn't heard back interest sony, so maybe they'll hear from sony later. >> when do you think we might know go the rumors if they might release it possibly for three online? >> that's the other interesting piece of this. maybe they'll stream it so we can watch it online, maybe some nice holiday thing, everybody
gets online and watches it together. sony is trying to move carefully here. they postponed the christmas release so it might take a whooily to get a distribution plan in place. if they could announce something now they would. the fact it's taken several days to make plans suggests there are partners and companies wary of this movie, working with sony to release it. they might be vulnerable to hacking as well, they might be vulnerable to threats as well. >> no chance sony would lose money? >> budget of $44 million is hard to recruit and the hacking cost them millions of dollars, think about the identity theft protection they have to provide, replacing a lot of systems and software, and those lawsuits. there's going to be more lawsuits coming i think. the totals of all of that are going to be really hard to recoup. it will be more of a statement to have this movie come out than a financial reward. >> good point. brian stelter, nice to see you, thank you. check out brian's new article at cnnmoney.com. we'll be right back. [vet] two yearly physicals down.
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welcome back. this morning we've been talking about the history of mayor bill de blasio and the nypd. i'm sure you can remember this have you had yo where they turned their back on him as he came to the hospital where the two officers who had been ambushed in brooklyn were being treated. so this is a long history and we
wanted to unvit our next guest to talk about how this works. he not only knows what it's like to lead a police forks he's also been a mayor. lee brown is former mayor and police chief of houston and written a book titled "policing in the 21st century, community policing." nice to see you. so this battle between new york police and city hall certainly nothing new. in 1992 there was an all riot bit police against mayor denkins. you had served as police commissioner before that happened. during your time, what can you recall about that were relations between the police and the mayor strained then as well? >> the issue there was brewing while i was there, that was the creation of a civilian review board to receive and investigate complaints against police officers. the plirz did not endorse that concept and as i understand, that was the reason for the demonstration there at city
hall. i wasn't in the country at time. i did read about it when i returned. >> what do you see as different this time around? what do you make of what's happening in new york? >> we must understand that the police department is a big family and this instance, two members of the family lost their lives, so there's a lot of pain there. we would probably prefer the officers not turn their back on the mayor but that happened. to understand it, we must understand the circumstances under with that i occurred, that's the loss of two members of a family. do we condone it? no. do we understand it? yes. >> so with this tension, how do you cut through it? what needs to be done on both sides? >> if there are other issues, and i suspect there may be other issues that have not come to the surface yet, then there's a need for the police, along with the police commissioner, the police
union and the police commissioner and the mayor to sit down and work through the issues. i don't know what the issues are at this point in time but i suspect it's more than we know about at this point in time. >> you wrote the book on community policing. you implemented a program also during your time in new york. how do police officers benefit from what you call community policing? >> one thing i think it makes them safer. let me tell one quick story when i was in new york, a white officers working in predominantly black public housing projects, they made an arrest and immediately surrounded by residents there. one african-american man came out of the crowd, stood next to the officer, crossed his arms, just stood there. that dispersed the entire crowd and once they were all gone, the resident of the housing project looked at the officer and said i thought we'd have to kick butt there for a while. what's the essence of that
story? that officer had worked in that community. people got to know him, and he was able to carry out his job with the support of the community, and that's the essence of community policing. i define as a partnership, i underline the word partnership between the police and the community, to accomplish four objectives, number one to prevent crime, number two to arrest those who commit crimes, number three, to solve problems in the community and number four, to improve the quality of life in neighborhoods. the police can't do the job alone. the community can't do the job alone. but when you put the two together, you have an awesome force to get things done. that's the answer to community policing. it's not a program. it's a flo process, it's a philosophy of how do you use your police officers to improve the quality of life in neighborhoods. >> it sounds like it does exactly what it sounds like, builds a community, builds a trust which is certainly lacking right now. lee brown, thank you very much. i'll be right back.
the two nypd officers were slain over the weekend, a lot of people dropping flowers, cards and candles and coming to pay their respects as this memorial grows. these two men, they were just doing their job, a job that is to protect and serve but a suicidal killer cut their lives short saturday afternoon. now mourners are paying their respects to slain new york city police officers rafael ramos and wenjin liu, leaving the flowers and candles and some mementos at the brooklyn intersection where they were ambushed inside their propa patrol car. ramos and liu took different paths that would eventually join their lives together. they were partners on patrol, officer wenjin liu a seven-year veteran of the nypd and officer raphael ramos who first joined the department in 2012. both were assigned to the 84th precinct in downtown brooklyn. officer ramos worked as a school security officer before joining the nypd and reportedly love the
that is the first time you've seen that number for the dow jones industrial average. 18,000 is a big round number. what's important about that -- what's important about that is since december 16 the dow has risen a thousand points in just a couple of weeks. a thousand points. that means that's real money in your 401(k). that's real money investors have made in the stock market. so a thousand points in just a couple of weeks is something that's remarkable. for the year you have the dow up 8%, the nasdaq up 14%, the s&p 500 up 12%. that means it's likely another double digit year of returns for stock investors. really a strong performance.
>> new gdp numbers. >> it shows the strongest economic growth in the third quarter in more than five years, 5% is the number. the strongest economic growth in 11 years. so those are really showing us that the economy has been robust. second quarter a, a strong performance. >> and we also have brand new polls just out at this moment. >> and they show us that americans are feeling this. they're feeling an economic -- look at this. economic conditions are good. this shows you by income level. among all demographics, income, race, sex, gender -- gender is the same thing. but people feel better about the economy. now look at the overall numbers. 51% of americans polled today say the economy is good. this is on a different screen. 51% say the economy is good compared with 38% in october. that's the first time in seven years a majority of americans say the economy is good. i think -- >> that's nice to see. >> and when you look at this number a