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you are watching cnn's special coverage. i'm errol barnett. >> and we're following two breaking stories right now. an intense manhunt is underway in france this hour. investigators are searching for two brothers the kouachi brothers accused of killing 12 people. >> we are learning more about the suspect's past including details that one used to be an aspiring rapper. >> yeah but the other big story we're following at this hour divers in indonesia looking into possible pings from the flight data recorders or black foxes of airasia flight 8501. we'll be light from indonesia in just a moment.
we begin in northern france where the search is intensifying now for the two brothers suspected in the paris terror attack. police are focusing on a wooded area where a police helicopter crew believes they caught glimpses of the suspects as they were fleeing. 80,000 police are taking part in this search across the nation. >> meantime in paris, the lights went completely out, blacked out completely on the eiffel tower in solidarity in remembrance of the victims of wednesday's massacre. of course, 12 people were killed and 11 wounded in the attack on the officers of "charlie hebdo" magazine. >> we turn now to our correspondent following developments in the search live from paris. it's just past 8:00 in the morning there. tell us how the weather is there and certainly the mood on this
depressing week for the country. >> reporter: good morning. just looking at the eiffel tower pictures people are remembering them. against that there is this backdrop three days in, a massive manhunt for the two brothers. police have descended on a rural area in northern france. this is where they think cherif and said kouachi, the two brothers may be on the run. we saw helicopters flying overhead and they are using special night vision equipment as they scour the area. police say they may have spotted the brothers on foot there thursday. earlier in the day, to take you back to that day, a gas station attendant about 80 kilometers from here or so says the brothers came into the gas station and threatened him. he says they were armed. they wanted pretty much food and
gas before they drove away. all this led to police bringing in a convoy of 30 to 40 vehicles. they've sent up road blocks in the area. we've also seen that police have deployed about 80,000 police officers throughout the country. now so far there is no indication though they have found these two men. one thing that they did find however, and this could be their second mistake, empty containers and gasoline that was inside the car, if you remember that black saturn that they were driving. u.s. and western officials say they got this information from french intelligence and that the suspects may have intended to use these items to make rudimentary explosives such as molotov cocktails.
these gentlemen, we're now learning about the men who clearly have a lot of experience. we saw them with an ak-47. now we're learning they had some training in yemen with al qaeda of the arabian peninsula. >> let's talk more about that. based on the 1ridiovideo, they appeared to be well trained, composed. now they have these empty gas containers. said one of the brothers was trained in bomb making and weapons. what other information are we learning about their history? >> reporter: we're starting to learn a bit about their history. what we do know is that you know u.s. officials told cnn that said kouachi, the eldest of the two brothers traveled to yemen as late as 2011 where he received a variety of weapon
training from al qaeda. cnn's jim sciutto has been digging deeper exactly what kind of training they had, and he's been getting a better picture about these two suspects. take a listen. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: cherif kouachi looks carefree rapping in this french television documentary. a far cry from his current predicament as heavily armed police comb the countryside outside of paris, looking for cherif and his older brother, said. [ gunfire ] they are the men authorities allege are behind paris' worst terror attack in decades. their alleged involvement shocks their neighbors. >> translator: he lived here for a year and a half. he used to leave in the morning and we never saw him. but if he really did that it's disgusting because what we saw last night, truly we cried.
>> reporter: french reports say the two were orphaned at a young age. both brothers have radicalized pasts and drew the attention of french authorities. >> translator: as soon as the identity of the suspects was known, where they might flee to they were under surveillance. >> reporter: the surveillance stopped, in part because there are too many suspected jihadis in france. the younger cherif in 2005 arrested before traveling to syria. a plan that would have taken him to fight against u.s. and coalition troops in iraq. today, the mosque where they worshipped is torn down. french reports say here he met a man who would teach him to use a kalishnikov. he was sentenced to three years if prison in 2008 for recruiting
jihadis to fight in iraq. but his lawyer claims he was not an extremist. >> translator: he was like a lot of young people. he just had a job that provided money for an uninteresting lifestyle. when he got out of custody, he found a job, got married and when he arrived in 2008 he teamed to be getting back on the right path. >> reporter: much less is known about said kouachi, who seems to have had a lower profile. >> translator: said kouachi lived in france he was unemployed and was never condemned or accused. but he appeared in the periphery of some of these investigations. >> reporter: largely in the periphery until leaving his i.d. in the getaway car and tipping off authorities as to who the gunmen might be. >> translator: it was a mistake, a single mistake. >> reporter: jim sciutto, cnn. >> reporter: so as we saw there,
many questions still remain unanswered. but meanwhile, we are getting our first look inside the offices of the magazine "charlie hebdo" behind me where 12 people were killed wednesday around 10:30. the gunmen said they were avenging the prophet muhammad during the attack. you remember hearing the words "god is great." the magazine plans to public a new issue next week with proceeds going to help the victim's families. they're expecting to sell out more than the 60,000 copies they normally tend to sell. jim, we're day three now into this manhunt. how has the mood changed has it changed? >> i think if anything it's getting more and more somber. you see these demonstrations, these spontaneous demonstrations at night, in location around the
country, people wanting to sort of express their emotions to some extent. on the question of publication of "charlie hebdo," we understand they're going to do a million copies because they think they can sell them and the profits from that will go to the families of the people killed. one of the newspapers in town which is a left leaning newspaper, refers to "charlie hebdo" as "our cousins." >> they have a headline we are all charlie. >> they came first with that. and they are going to lone their offices, their office space and computers and printers to the staff, the main staff of "charlie hebdo" so they can put out this magazine. just to show you what the newspapers are doing this morning. their headline means "the hunt." it's typically used for hunting
animals, which is probably appropriate in this case. france submerged by emotion. this paper here puts out a 20-page special section this morning, the terrible story of the survivors, talking about the carnage. all sorts of articles in there, how parents should tell their children about this and that sort of thing. it's a very complete press picture this morning, all dedicated to this story. >> are you surprised that the tone hasn't changed? are you surprised that people haven't gone from somber to age angry or is it too soon still many >> i think it's too soon. but if they catch these guys the anger will spill out. we're going to see -- it's going to be interesting on sunday when we see this giant demonstration they're talking about, several hundred thousand people expected in paris, and all over the
country, exactly what the mood is there, whether it's one of respect and homage or whether it's going to be anger expressed. i have a feeling it may turn to anger at some point. >> reporter: jim bittermann thank you very much. at the moment it's a somber move people bowing their heads and paying their respect, hoping that will be the rhetoric we're going to see and the emotion we'll see in the next few days and hoping that doesn't turn to anger come sunday. >> all right. live for us in paris this morning. thanks to you both. now we turn to another breaking story that we're following closely. search and rescue teams from indonesia have detected picks. they could be coming from the black boxes of airasia flight 8501. this is key pieces of evidence when it comes to figuring out what took this plane down. >> divers spotted the plane's
tail tuesday. crews are trying to pull it to the surface, but it appears the black boxes are not in the tail perhaps they got separated in the java sea. >> to get a positive ping there has to be no interference in the waters. but at this moment the presence of search and rescue boats could be doing that. let's bring in our correspondent now, live with the latest. david, we can only imagine what the relatives of victims feel as they hear this promising news. but how really promising are these pings being detected near the tail? how much should we put into this? >> reporter: a couple of operations going on now in the search zone in the java sea. the first one, the news of the possible pings picked up by an indonesian survey ship. emphasis on the word possible and this is from the he would of indonesia's armed forces. what they've done now is sent divers into the water, presume
presumably to get eyes or with handheld microphones to see if they can get pings. we're told where that is happening is quite near to the tail section. that is the other operation ongoing right now. divers have been in the water since this morning, and what they're trying to do is lift the tail or prepare the tail to be lifted out of the water. that involves rope and some sort of sling and what they're going to do is eventually put airbags under it innate the airbags is the hope. and that will lift the tail enough to be able to use a crane to pull it to the surface. this is very tricky work. it is time consuming. it's not going to happen quickly. the good news from search and rescue officials, in terms of visibility and underwater currents things seem to be cooperating. on thursday divers reported they were fluttering like flags,
they could only stay down for 15 minutes. today, friday things look better. still about four hours of daylight left so officials hoping for some good news out of the search zone. >> so no guaranty that this is in fact the black box, but encouraging developments for the relatives of those victims as it relates to getting answers. david, thanks. we've been talking about terrorism if france for the past few days but another place that's been dealing with terrorism for years is nigeria, with boko haram. there are fears of casualties in northeast nigeria after a new series of attacks by that terrorist group. a local official tells cnn militants, boko haram militants went on a burning spree and destroyed 16 villages. the number of people that have been killed are now in the
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expressed again and again in paris over the past day. i want to bring in the paris bureau chief and france correspondent for the economist. she joins me now via skype. so sophie from a journalist to a journalist for me this attack really brought home among a number of things just how dangerous this profession can be and it certainly does take a lot of courage. i did -- cnn did speak to a cartoonist who told us that in the wake of these attacks, he's now struggling to find the right balance between satire and the dprav gravity of the situation. cartoonists are now perhaps sort of seeing the need to self-sensor themselves. what are your thoughts on that? >> i think there's an amazing sensitive in france about it. "charlie hebdo" was known to have this very strong culture of free speech and they felt that was part of their identity was sort of defying any conventions
of physical correctness. they mocked everything not just islam. it could be president sarkozy when he was in power or catholicism or other religions. i don't detect a lot of questioning about that. that's what is so striking there has been a sense of absolute defiance of this -- in the face of this terrorist attack and not really a questioning of whether or not the cartoonists or the journalists have the right to do what they do. but just to say we're not going to be cowed by this attack and we're going to continue. >> especially after "charlie hebdo" saying they want to print many many more copies next wednesday. that's certainly an act of defiance. i want to ask you about the political response there in france. i know they were saying there should be a referendum in france
to perhaps bring back the death penalty. what has been the political response there overall? >> i think it's been very mature. what you've seen is a huge sense of national unity, and nicolas sarkozy, who is the leader of the opposition visited president hollande yesterday, and that's a first since hollande beat him in the presidential election nearly three years ago. there have been numerous moments when side by side you've had politicians on the left and the right. today, amazingly enough marie lapen from the national pen is going to visit hollande. obviously, the question is, these things are relatively easy to do in the immediate days of such a tragic attack. but whether or not that lasts is another question. there you have to ask whether
president hollande who is the most unpopular leader france has known under the fifth republic has got the credibility and the authority and the strength to be able to build on that and to carry the french forward with him. i think that's really the key question at this point. >> we're looking at incredible images taken earlier in the day with people defiant, france standing in unit. okay. sophie live for us there in paris. thank you. there's a sobering assessment for you, the head of britain's internal security agency says the number of terror plots is rising and mass casualty attacks against the west are being planned. andrew parker says more than 20 plots around the world have been directed or provoked by extremists in syria since october of 2013. his comments raise serious
questions about whether the paris attack was isolated or part of something larger and more dangerous. nic robertson has more on that. >> reporter: "charlie hebdo" office, paris. 12 dead. ground zero for the latest islamic attack. but this latest attack just one of many in recent weeks across the globe, raising the question is this a world at war? this is when things get really bad. less than a month ago, i was stepping through the carnage of another radical islamist attack thousands of miles away. this time pakistan. 132, mostly muslim schoolchildren gunned down. cold blooded murder because
their taliban killers said the children's parents were in the army. in the days before that australia, half a world away. a radical islamist takes early morning customers hostage in a chocolate shop. two people were kid, plus the gunman. that gunman claiming australia kills muslims in syria and iraq. each attack a different rational given. the reality is attacks are bread out of a redepressive view that espouses a war without boarders without end, against western values. a world at war. think about it. not just the killings in paris, pakistan and australia, in the past month, there have been many many more all in the name of radical islam. mogadishu mogadishu, somalia, turkey this
week a female suicide bomber attacks a police station in the main tourist district of istanbul. and a steady background drumbeat during the same month. the new normal the death toll at the hands of radicals climbs. executions in syria, car bombs in iraq. and in afghanistan, this week a car bomb targeting european police failing, killing yet more innocent afghan civilians. like so many victims in this radical islamist world war, most of those dying are muslims. nic robertson, cnn, atlanta. still to come for you here on cnn, the terror attack in paris is having a chilling effect on some cartoonists. >> if i did a cartoon, an offensive cartoon, they would
>> reporter: at midday, paris fell silent. a moment to remember those so brutally murdered as the rain fell on a grieving city signs of shock still clear on people's faces. tears for those they never knew but whose pain they feel. the silence was only broken by the bells of notre dame ringing out across this city. president hollande ordered thursday a national day of mourning and asked for flags to be lowered for three days. just 48 hours ago, it was business as usual on the streets of paris after christmas and new year. but since then parisians have had to digest the fact that there have been running gun battles on these streets, there have been massacres, checkpoints state up in the paris suburbs. many say it's taken them this long to come to terms with
what's happened in the french capital. but despite it all, many are saying that they are not frightened. >> they are just murderers and not anything else. we are not afraid. >> there is no word for explaining what's happened. i think i'm here just to realize it's true. >> reporter: at the vigils held across the city the mood is shifting from one of grief to one of defiance. the words on this man's back read "i would rather die standing than live on my knees." a quote from the "charlie hebdo" editor. outside the "charlie hebdo" office people held up pens pencils, and press cards, as symbols of free speech. flyers and posters saying i am charlie, are everywhere. even among highest of france's
political enemies was a show of solidarity. as former president nicolas sarkozy visited president hollande at the palace. it's a city standing unified in its horror. here a representative of the local muslim community comes to pay his respects. >> translator: during this week the most important thing is to think of the families. there will be a time for reflection, but what's important today is that there are families who have lost a loved one. >> it says here that perhaps it is still too early for analysis, that the pain is still too raw. hala gorani cnn, paris. coming up more on the massive manhunt under way for the two suspects the two brothers in paris. we'll have a live report and a look at the mood right now as paris mourns. stay with us.
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welcome back. to those of you watching here in the u.s. and all around the world, i'm errol barnett. >> and i'm zain asher. i want to get you updated on our top stories right now. police are searching a wooded area in northern france for the two brothers the kouachi brothers suspected in the paris terrorist attack on wednesday. helicopters are using special night vision tools to hook for cherif and said kouachi. police say they may have spotted the brothers on foot there. >> said kouachi traveled to yemen in 2011 according to french intelligence sources. apparently he also received weapons training from the al qaeda affiliate there, aqap al
qaeda in the arabian peninsula. and law enforcement officials tell cnn the brothers were in the database of international terrorist suspects. >> in the meantime "charlie hebdo" is standing defiant. they are still planning to publish magazines next wednesday in the coming issue. reports say it will produce 1 million copies memorial editions in response to the global outrage over the massacre. >> and the eiffel tower went dark wednesday night in tribute to the 12 killed in wednesday's attack. many bowed their heads as the bells in notre dame rang across the city. one demonstrator said the terrorists don't get to have the last word. >> issa suarez joins us live now
from paris. walk us through in terms of the manhunt. we're hearing they may be in this wooded area or they were spotted on thursday there and they also robbed a gas station. what more do we know? >> reporter: hello, zain. what we know is a massive manhunt is currently you believed way, has been under way in fact the last couple of days. but that definitely has increased in terms of the number of police. we've got 80,000 police now deployed throughout the country, trying to find the two brothers behind the attacks on the publication here that killed 12 people and prompted widespread shock and condemnation. what we do knoll so far is that police are focusing on an area in the northeast of paris. this is france's region that's been put on high alert.
they're focusing on this, because it's believed this is the last time they were seen. we've seen helicopters hovering over the area. we also heard that the two brothers stopped at a petrol station. he then threatened one of the men working there, he said we want food, gas and he was unharmed very good news there. but it goes to show how desperate they are. we've also heard that that black saturn if you remember, they have left empty containers and gasoline. this is from french authorities. and this is letting people to believe perhaps they were going to attempt to create some sort of explosives which is molotov cocktails. so lot to get to. jim bittermann has been following the developments from day one.
jim, we'll get to the mood but first let's start on this manhunt. we're in day three, 80,000 police being deployed. is there a feeling that the french police has a handle on this? >> it's difficult to say that. the fact is this is a huge area they're searching. there's a lot of places to hide. if you remember after the boston massacre it took some time for the police to find the suspects. they're looking for a needle in a hay stack here. it's a forested area a lot of places people could hide. and for the searchers, it's going to be a real problem. they have dog units out, helicopter units with heat seeking cameras. so they've got all the equipment, just a question whether they can find anybody in all this. >> we've also been able to see the first images from inside the
offices. i don't know if we can bring it up. really of a corridor a very bloody corridor with sheets thrown everywhere. just tell us what are we hearing from people who were here? there we are, we're seeing the footage now. >> we're hearing the first eyewitness testimony and some people who were in the room at the time and survived. one person in particular that rushed to the scene was a man named patrick, a columnist for "charlie hebdo." he planned to go by the editorial room to say happy new year. he was also a trained paramedic. he talked to anderson cooper and here's what he had to say.
>> we heard also from the daughter of one of the cartoonists overnight, and she said look my father was killed. they took his life but they taken away his ideas. >> reporter: which echoes so poignantly the photo we saw on photo gram who said papa isn't here he's gone. but wolinski is not. but we've got big vigils on sunday. how do you think this is going
to mayplay out the next couple of days? >> if they catch these two guys i think the mood here will deaf fatly change. if it's still a case where they're on the loose, the authorities are going to look more and more incapable of handling the situation. and then the public mood is going to change from one of frustration to one of anger towards not only the terrorists but also the government that they're not being able to resolve the situation. it's a very dicey moment in paris. >> absolutely. you know zain it is a very tense and dicey moment. people obviously trying to pay their respects. but a lot of pressure on the french authorities to catch these two brothers and to really question them about what happened. many people don't want to get -- don't want to keep it going any further, because it's just too
painful for them. zain? >> and it's the third day now in that manhunt. we'll see what today brings in terms of the manhunt. hopefully they'll get somewhere in tracking those brothers down. thank you. >> let's talk a bit more in depth what's at play here. dominique wassi joins us on the phone from paris. dominique, thanks for your time today. this manhunt continues and we just heard there from our correspondents in paris, the mood has been somber and people are united. but from your perspective, what is going through the collective minds of the french right now, publicly everyone is saying nothing is going to change but privately, you know what has happened and the fact that these guys are on the loose must give people pause. >> well i think the sign of the
national unity which has been described is still very much the dominant mood. they are obviously playing the outsider as much as they want to play. but i would say there is a climate of national unity, and of course, people are expecting the police to arrest the two suspects in the coming hours. they are a bit surprised this morning that they were not yet called but basically they are -- they seem to be convimsnced
in their majority that it's a matter of hours, not days. >> let me push you on that sense of unity. it is difficult to label the suspects on what we just know. according to french officials, they weren't serious enough to warrant closer surveillance. how can policy change to address this new, hard-to-define type of terrorism? >> it depends what's going to happen in the coming hours or in the coming days. but france today reminds me a little bit of the united states right after 9/11. the country has been attacked through an important symbol.
of course the number of casualties is -- cannot be compared be. you emotionally, there is a sense that people have come to declare war on france. even if these people -- that there is a group somewhere this the middle east that is meeting the action between two terrorists. and that we may be at the beginning of something bigger that is not only going to consume france, but all of western europe. so we have to be as united as term as possible, trying to prevent any kind of anger between islamists and islam. but at the same time be as
alert and firm as one can be. >> it is encouraging in the very least to see that high level of unity in the wake of all this. dominique wassi on the line with us. thanks so much. i think that's kind of what's key here. in many ways the unity, people making "charlie hebdo," that phrase -- >> we are charlie. >> people making it more famous because of the attack. it seems so backlashed of what the aim was. >> especially sense they plan to print 1 million copies. 12 people lost their lives in the attacks in paris. we look at the lives and careers of the victims coming up. eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee financial noise financial noise
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welcome back. the cartoonists at "charlie hebdo" were considered some of the sharpest voices of satire in the world. >> although they were silenced in wednesday's terrorist attack on their offices, what they stood for will certainly be a lasting legacy. >> cnn's jake tapper shows us how the world is mourning the victims. >> reporter: their names war scrawled small in the corners of "charlie hebdo's" outrageous even offensive covers. but their images made them
giants of satire in the your peen cartooning world, penning reputations for provocation. >> translator: when this woman died for the idea which they had of france, that is to say freedom. >> reporter: 12 people slaughtered, including some of france's most prominent cartoonists. in response thousands raised their own pens inking memorials to the fallen. steffen charbonnier. >> without freedom of speech we are dead. >> reporter: in 2012 he explained his passion to abc news. >> i would die rather than live
like a rat. >> reporter: iron with cabu, george wolinski was killed when the gunman called out their names. social media now flooded with honors for the fallen cartoonists, perhaps none more wrenching than this photo of an empty art table posted by his daughter elsa. dad is gone, not wolinski she wrote. >> we will go on and we will make an exhibition. we will keep on fighting. >> reporter: also killed a police officer, a french muslim. comrades now marking the loss with black lines who have
crossed their badges. >> translator: their sacrifice should remind us of daily heroism. >> reporter: they died defending liberties, like this gift to the united states from our broth evers and sisters in france. jake tapper, cnn, washington. ♪ ♪ ♪ first impressions are important. you've got to make every second count. banking designed for the way you live your life. so you can welcome your family home... for the first time. chase. so you can.
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now cartoonists worldwide have responded with their personal takes on the tragedy at "charlie hebdo" magazine. but for one of them it has. been so easy. cnn's kelly morgan sat down with a british cartoonist who has been drawing sketch after sketch trying to come up with a cartoon that's not offensive. >> reporter: michael hate has been drawing all day. >> this is one i came up with at 5:00 in the morning. if that didn't work, i thought of that. >> the veteran cartoonist from british magazine, the spectator shows us sketch after sketch. >> deadline. cartoonists drawn with a gun behind him. >> reporter: he's struggling to come up with something poignant et effective.
it's a challenge and he's left with this. >> i honestly thought if you paired it all down to what it could be that didn't upset somebody, and now they're looking to be upset, that would be the only thing. the only thing i can come up with. is nothing. >> it's a frustration shared by many cartoonist in the wake charlie hebdo attack. most on the adage the pen is mightier than the sword. >> we don't want to be offensive to anybody else. but they're offensive to us. but we don't want to be offensive to anybody else. the most offensive cartoon gets them more angry and they shoot more people. it's an extremely difficult area. >> reporter: even for a cartoonist who works for a publication that's considered conservative in content. it's not necessarily michael heath's editor censoring his work. >> we're allowed to do anything we like. and there's no limit except one's own -- i don't like the world but i'm using it --
decency and ability to filter through your brain what is acceptable and what is not. i don't mind being shot, right? suits me fine. but i'm not sure them coming or shooting other people is a very nervous-making thing. makes you think twice. if you thought long enough, you wouldn't do anything. >> reporter: and so it's back to the drawing board to doodle through the dilemma. kelly morgan, cnn london. >> that big, breathy sigh at the end is his feelings. we appreciate you watching cnn's special coverage. i'm errol barnett z. and i'm zain asher. stay with us for continuing coverage of the paris terrorist attack. so,as my personal financial psychic, i'm sure you know what this meeting is about. yes, a raise. i'm letting you go. i knew that. you see, this is my amerivest managed... balances. no. portfolio. and if doesn't perform well for two consecutive gold. quarters. quarters...yup. then amerivest gives me back their advisory... stocks. fees.
okay everyone. there are two major stories we are following for you at this hour. first, the massive manhunt that's continuing in france. two men suspected in the paris terrorist attack. they are still on the run. we don't know their whereabouts. we're following the latest efforts to pin them down. also coming up for you this hour pings detected in the java sea. this is a potential break through in the search for airasia flight 8501. we'll get you live to indonesia for the latest information in moments. >> hello and welcome to our viewers in the united states and rnd the