tv Anthony Bourdain Parts Unknown CNN June 7, 2015 5:00pm-6:01pm PDT
god will save madagascar. and vacation over as we headed home to our regular beds, our daily lives of school and homework, and ordinary things. maybe my little brother, maybe i, would wake up and look out the window at the night sky and suddenly it would fill with stars and golden mist, and we'd pretend for a second we were somehow deep inside the milky way, a million winking lights,
but we knew where we really were. we were almost home. ♪ i took a walk through this beautiful world ♪ ♪ felt the cool rain on my shoulder ♪ ♪ found something good in this beautiful world ♪ ♪ i felt the rain getting colder ♪ ♪ sha, la, la, la, la ♪ sha, la, la, la, la, la, ♪ ♪ sha, la, la, la, la ♪ sha, la, la, la, la, la, la ♪
o enchanted land of my childhood, a cultural petri dish from which regularly issues forth greatness. new jersey, in case you didn't know it, has got beaches, beautiful beaches, and they're not all crawling with roid raging trolls with reality shows. i grew up summering on those beaches and they're awesome. jersey's got farmland, beautiful bedroom communities. where that woman from real housewives does not live, nor anyone like her. even the refineries, the endless clover leaves of turnpikes and expressways twisting in unknowable patterns over the wetlands that are somehow beautiful. to know jersey is to love her.
ft. lee, you may have heard of it. some of governor christie's minions allegedly conspired to jam up traffic for a few days. it's a town with a joky history of corruption. it's also where my beloved hiram's is. opened since 1932 and unchanged since, my dad started bringing me and my younger brother here in the '50s and they still honor tradition. >> sometimes i just the need that old-time flavor. it seems like a chew food. basically my dad would take me here. it is a great point of pride and satisfaction, and i've convinced my daughter this is the finest hot dogs in the land. she gets very excited to come out here, which makes me happy. thank you. thank you. this is heat. the toothpicks are just like 1958. some things just shouldn't change.
my dad used to love relishing that i loved this stuff. look at that beauty. oh, yeah. i come here to feed my soul. the cultural wellspring that's new jersey, it's the antidote to every other place. the place is perfect. the dogs are amazing. there are not a lot of people in this world courageous enough to not change. down the shore, yeah, we actually talk like that. it was what we did, go down the shore.
not just our family from bergen county near the bridge, but middle class and working class families from philly and all over who packed up the kids in the station wagon for the seemingly interminable trip to long beach island. >> just getting out of the driveway was a big deal. >> there was always drama. >> once we were over the bridge, the excitement would ratchet up. ship bottom, then surf city, harvey cedars. love ladies, ticking off the town names until finally, finally, barnegat light. >> new. these are all new. that's original. >> yeah, definitely. >> i think i know who lived there at one point. >> that's definitely old-school. >> let's face it. it's been how many years? 40 -- >> 400, i think. >> jesus, we're old. the lighthouse.
>> definitely remember going to that lighthouse a lot. >> oh, the good old days. i want some fried clam strips. >> absolutely. >> our options are limited, shall we say, but holy crap. this place is filling up. >> i think it's because it's the only place. >> who lives out here year round? >> we're about to see every single one of them. >> let's be honest. when we come here in the summers, i was the bad one. >> yes, yes. >> your recollection is correct. >> i was up to every variety of criminal anti-social behavior. i didn't smoke dope for the first time here. i was looking for dope, but as a 12-year-old it was hard to come by. >> i think i vaguely remember you walking off with some sort of cute girl. >> first kiss. that was an important passage. this is good. >> it is good. >> i realize now i hitchhiked regularly. >> yeah. >> mom, dad, i'm going to go to ship bottom tonight with some friends. how are you getting there? hitchhiking.
okay. have fun. >> all the kids were doing it. that's how you got places here. >> summertime. you know that sound? just out of the water, ears pressed up against the beach blanket, the squeak of bare feet on sand nearby, classics illustrated comics waited for me back at the house. i'd play with my little plastic army men in the dunes, and there's a smell of beach grass in the dunes. you remember it? >> i still crave it. i love it. >> and on special occasions clams in drawn butter. no matter where i find them now, they always bring me back here. >> i remember this place with nothing but fondness. i can't remember a single bad memory here. >> people you knew from last year were here. the parents didn't need to be with you. have a campfire on the beach at night.
setoff firecrackers. all this stuff they wouldn't let you do at home. >> the beach would look different. for a couple of days, the beach would be this weird foamy surf. giant bubbles. now we're talking. >> or there would be the jelly fish delivery sometimes. a million of them all over. >> infestation of jelly fish, right. i try to block that out. >> that wonderful feeling alone at night on the beach. it was great. >> love clam strips. >> these are great. >> these are awesome. so far, so great. i'm happy. battered piece of fish with some good tartar sauce. what were your favorite activities? >> building a campfire on the beach. >> overturning the life guard stand. >> firecrackers on the beach. i have some firecrackers in your car, by the way. just saying. >> set them off in the elevator at the casino. >> perfect.
♪ >> it was paradise. america's first dream vacation. the beach, as far as america was concerned, meaning bathing suits and swimming in the surf was pretty much invented here. atlantic city, rich or working class, it was here for you. back then you dressed up to walk the boardwalk. it was capitalism at its purist and most assertive. it was a democratic dream designed from the beginning for everybody. flashy, utilitarian, upright, deeply, unapologetically corrupt. the knife and fork in, it was right there through it all. in many ways its story a perfect reflection of changing times.
established in 1912, the second floor had curtained alcoves and a separate lady's lounge. private rooms on the third and fourth floor were set aside for games of chance and perhaps other activities. vicki gold levi's dad was the chief photographer for atlantic city from the 1930s to the 1960s. he saw it all and by extension so did vicki. >> what was it like here as a kid? >> it was fantastic. walking down the boardwalk in the summertime was like walking a carnival at midway. the cacophony of noises -- >> there were still remnants of the '20s. >> yeah. >> that sensibility, that look. handlebar mustaches. victorian graphic art and illustration was still very much in evidence, even in my time here in the early 60s. the boardwalk was over six miles of amusements, entertainments, parades, and pageants. a never-ending carnival. >> every place you went down the
boardwalk was something else to see and all the stores were mom and pop stores, all very unique. >> yes. >> the world famous steel pier, amusement arcades, barkers, novelties, saltwater taffy. >> i loved the joke shops. >> the joke shops. >> it was a wonderland of juvenile delinquency. i could buy plastic dog crap, plastic vomit, smoke powder. it was just something very sinister and forbidden. my parents indulged me when i was here. >> the menu has changed somewhat since the original. for me, a very tasty pretzel crusted swordfish over lump crab meat. for vicki, pan-seared scallops. >> my memories are largely built around the time before. times were not good. it was largely empty, but it was a magnificent structure. >> you and i like the nostalgia. the people who like coney island
like it, but i don't know about the young people. >> beautiful buildings are beautiful buildings. a beautiful view is a beautiful view forever. there's no other place with this kind of history and legitimacy. this place has deep romantic allure. >> i agree with you. i believe in the transition that's coming. i really, really do with all my heart. >> hundreds of businesses used to be here. it's not a matter of, gee, that would be great if that happened again. it is inevitable that it will happen again. and it's worth fixing. atlantic city can be chic easy because the bones of the city are beautiful. >> i'm glad you feel that way. >> there is even in very young people, beautiful old things, beautiful old restaurant with really great food is much more interesting than a glass box with good food.
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the names of atlantic city streets were imprinted on generations of americans who grew up playing monopoly. drive now ventnor avenue today and you see history. the ebb and flow of america's hopes and dreams played out in the buildings and homes you see as you pass by. magnificent mansions mixed in with inexpensive homes, cheap takeout, the footprints of a lost world. the riviera of the northeast still there if you look in between. with jet travel in miami and an expanded highway system, things declined as they do. but a few visionary geniuses presented a solution, a cure that would overnight make everybody well, make atlantic city shiny and new and prosperous again. men like donald trump. >> i think it's going to be
really very beneficial to everybody. we look forward to operating the taj mahal successfully for many years to come. >> they rushed to atlantic city eager to tap into what was assured to be a never-ending gusher of prosperity, casino gambling. >> when casino gambling was sold to the state of new jersey and to atlantic city as the cure-all, did it change anything? >> do you think this place is better than it was? do you think it helped? >> no, i don't. >> new jersey native brian donohue is a reporter with 20 years experience focusing on south jersey. dock's oyster house, an establishment that survived prohibition, the great depression, two world wars, numerous declines, and rebirths. still here, still great, a symbol of what atlantic city was, would be, could be, and should be again.
>> to bring atlantic city back after its decline was a really hard, complicated process. they wanted easy answers and casino gambling was seen as an easy answer. >> it sure sounded like a good idea. >> they were going to bring 12 casinos here and bring everybody up from the top down. it hasn't worked. now when you're left with just 12 casinos -- >> and if you're looking for an example of a lemming like lurch towards a shiny new cliff face from which to tumble, look no further than this $2.4 million goat rodeo, the revel. it opened in 2012 and closed less than two years later. the most expensive casino in new jersey history. >> the hubris was incredible. >> what were they thinking? >> short-term money. and at a time when all these other casinos were opening all over the entire east coast. >> it's just nuts. it's economics 101. >> casinos of course, by design,
neglect the city's existing assets, salt air, a walk by the glorious north atlantic, the greatest of all the earth's bodies of waters, the classic attractions, the restaurants. >> this is what it is going to take for atlantic city to come back. it's going to be places like this. celebrate the ghosts, you know. >> some nice crab cakes at dock's, a big freaking lobster stuffed with crab imperial, plum souffle. those things are bad for business, the business of taking your money. >> thank you so much. lovely. that'll work. that's good. i don't want to sound like i'm down on atlantic city because i see it as an incredibly, almost ludicrously hopeful place. whatever is left should be hung onto because it is going to come around.
>> there's nothing funny about losing all your money yet casinos are steady employers of that most hard-working species of entertainers. comedian's rich voss and ron bonnie mcfarland are two of the hardest working people around. married to each other and new jersey. >> it's so much money to live here. i drove three exits on the jersey turnpike. it was $7. if you drive a whole new jersey turnpike, when you get to the end, you have to give them your car. [ laughter ] >> i'm going to tell you something that i don't tell people right away. i'm vegan. i'm very passionate about it. it's all about leading a cruelty-free lifestyle. no animal or animal by-product of any kind. i do cheat a little. i eat veal. it's so tender. how do they get it like that? >> i'm very sentimental about jersey italian, particularly spaghetti and meatballs. that's what i was going to go for. >> i've eaten here at least five to ten times, and i've never had a bad meal. ever.
i wouldn't get the meatballs. [ laughter ] >> proud long-time residents of new jersey? >> no. i've lived here nine years, but only been proud maybe the last two. >> born and bred. >> yes. my whole life. >> he won't leave. i had to make peace with it. >> when was the first time you played atlantic city? >> there was a club at the sands. many times i would get paid on thursday and then i would lose it all and then i'd have to work for free. there's no worse feeling. >> oh, i know that feeling. >> it's a nightmare. >> have you ever watched a couple in atlantic city? okay, dear, hold this money. don't give it back to me no matter what i do. i don't care what i say. an hour later, give me my god damn money. no, i'm not fooling around. you're lucky i brought you here. you better give me my money. you're the reason i'm losing, touching my arm when i'm shooting craps. >> is there a specifically jersey sense of humor? >> yes, i love jersey audiences now so much.
i have never one time said anything where people in the audience have gone, ahhh. they never get offended. >> we all have our words that we don't like, the ones that affect us the most. i have my trigger words, as a white woman, the word i don't like is "no." i don't hear that often, but when i do, uh-huh. >> here's the deal with jersey. people land up north and they drive up the turnpike. they don't turn off it and go up -- >> they see the refineries. >> that's new jersey. >> how sick is it that i think it's beautiful? >> more horses per capita than any other state. >> northern new jersey is the embroidery capital of the world, apparently. i don't know where that's happening. >> i actually worked for an embroidery company. >> no. >> i swear to god. i'll call her right now. >> this is a taste of my youth. for all of the marvelous things about new jersey, will people ever come across the bridge on the tunnel in the other direction? >> no. i did not have to think about that. >> let's go out to a club in new
jersey. >> no! >> but it's all relative. a 25-year-old guy or girl is going, we're not going to go jersey. a 60-year-old person is going, i'm getting out of this city. >> there's your answer. >> but where does hipness stop? at what age? >> i love living here. i love it. pine valley, the best golf course in the country. trump has beautiful courses. >> wait, wait, trump. i am not a fan. >> who is? >> every minute that he walks here demands a certain complicity to not shout out when you look at that ridiculous-looking head. it's like if you have a disfigurement, that sort of tacit agreement that i'm just not going to bring it up. that's too much to ask of me. i want to squeeze. >> you know why he puts his name on the building. so banks know which ones to take back. at least he's a humble guy.
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camden, new jersey. it's like the powers child for everything a city can screw up. once a manufacturing powerhouse, home to the new york ship building corporation, the campbells soup company, and rca victor records. a company town. about 8,000 people live here today. that's the same number of people who were employed during its heyday. nearly 40% of the city's high school students don't graduate. the entire police force replaced by the state. more than one third of city residents live below the poverty line. voter turnout, not good. if there's any place one could be forgiven for just throwing your hands up in the air and giving up, it's here. but, no. cities with serious problems need extraordinary people. and twanda jones is clearly an extraordinary person. >> when you give, especially to
someone who is really in need, you know, i feel -- it makes me feel complete. >> her late grandfather, walter green jr., was a former military man, an employee of rca, and a bodyguard for the great boxer, jersey joe walcott. >> he was just like, the protector. you know, if you need anything, you go to mr. dynamite. that was his nickname. >> he was also a man who believed in being part of the community. when twanda was 15, she was asked to lead a local drill team. unfortunately, it soon lost its funding. walter purchased 80 uniforms and three drums to give them a start. ♪ >> today, css, the camden sophisticated sisters drill team, which includes the distinguished brothers and tapps, the almighty percussion sound, have over 230
participant participants. >> good job, baby. good job. clap it up for yourself. clap it up. >> we meet a neighborhood stalwart, tony and ruth stakes, still doing what they do. >> it doesn't get any better than this. >> what was camden like back in the good old days? >> oh, my god. it was so different coming up when i was younger. i didn't have to worry about my life being threatened, coming outside. the neighborhood, everyone knew everybody. that sense of community was strong back then. >> you're talking about your childhood as if it was a real long time ago. it's not that long ago. what the hell went wrong? >> people can blame it on the politics, but that's just too easy. know what your child is doing. >> so you're putting it principally on the parents? >> absolutely. >> this is tasty. >> this is delicious. >> so the conventional wisdom seems to be, it's time to get
out of cambridge. why are you still here? >> the need is in camden. if every decent person in camden leaves camden, then we never have a chance. in order to be a part of the program, they have to maintain a "c" average or better. it's all about their kmex. it's all about nurturing these kids. what's right, what's wrong? the drill team does that. it's a start without a finish. it is possible. >> and they believe this. you know, they say it so much, until it's embedded. >> twanda has helped css support itself with financial assistance from fellow parents and some fund-raising, temporary help and donations from small businesses. but surprisingly, for a group with a national profile, no lasting support from official organizations or national institutions, public or private. yet, she perseveres. >> a lot of your practices have gone out doors. >> right. >> all-weather type of situations. >> yes, we've been under bridges, everything. over 28 years, we've been
outside. their safety is the most important to may, you know, but it's been a blessing and a curse. you'll have the corner boys come up to you and ask you, are you having practice outside today? and i'm like, yeah, and they'll say, today's not a good day. and i'm like, okay, thank you very much. >> that's nice. >> i appreciate it, trust me. >> how do you keep these kids off the corner? >> i'm quite aware that times are hard. but i just try to show them an alternative route. saying that there's so much more out there than this. some of them call me major pain, but it's all out of love. they need that structure and discipline in life, period, to go to work, to go to school. >> they're doing it because it's fun? >> right. >> but it's hard. >> yeah. >> and they're doing it. >> yeah. >> and i got to ask, i'm going to guess that in the years that you've been doing this, you had to have had your heart broken many times? you've had to see kids who you really believed in fall by the wayside. i'm guessing a lot.
how do you go on? >> we do have a lot of sad stories, but we have more good. our good outweighs the bad, you know? and i keep going, just for that reason, you know? before i was a little hard on myself and i used to actually think that i could save all the kids. i know that's not the case. you know, i just do the best that i can do. and i just pray that the next kid doesn't, you know, fall by the wayside. >> how do you not become cynical? do you harden your heart or do you just -- >> no, actually, i have to replenish myself, or i'm not going to be any good to them or my own family. these kids are like precious cargo to me. they have pretty tough lives. some of them have the responsibility of a w0-year-old. they're holding down their homes and they're just kids. >> 25 years down the road, what
do you think camden will be like? >> i'm praying it turns into the camden that i remember. and i know that i'm helping our future leaders to become a part of that change. i'm very hopeful and there's no doubt in my mind that there is going to be a positive camden. no doubt. >> you're going to stay? >> i'm not going anywhere. my pop-pop didn't leave, i'm not leavin leaving. >> yeah, i know, philadelphia is right over there. right across the ben franklin bridge. the center of the cheese stake university. but, what if it isn't? they're better than that. they're bigger than that. and the best cheesesteak in the area might well come from new jersey. donkey's. opened by leon lucas 71 years ago. a heavyweight contender in the 1928 summer olympics if boxing. he was known during his time in the calvary as the donkey.
>> they say he had a punch like the kick of a mule. so somebody gave him the handle donkey, and he kept it. >> his son, robert, runs the joint now. and this is what they do here. behold the jersey cheesesteak. >> glad to meet you. >> so this is the place. the best cheesesteak in south jersey, unless i'm mistaken. >> in new jersey. >> in new jersey, period. >> yeah. >> is there a difference between new jersey style and philadelphia style? >> we do ours on a round, poppy seed kaiser style. >> i'll have one of those. anything i need to know? >> regular, cheese and onions. >> i'll have one. >> it has real american cheese a poppy seed roll. >> fantastic. >> thank you, sir. >> it is subblame. >> relish? >> that's hot pepper. >> i drove a long way for this. thinking about it the whole way. >> man, i just feel like a
national landmark right away. this sandwich is unbelievably good. thanks. really a thing of beauty. >> that's good to here. >> worth driving across the state in a blizzard for. >> we get a lot of people from philly. >> no way?! >> yeah. >> do they change the plates on their car and wear a disguise? >> it's different. the poppy seeds help. >> like this roll. it's awesome. that's delicious. i think we've learned something here today. jersey cheesesteaks. i'm not saying they're better than philadelphia -- yeah, i am, actually. so there! this is great. >> i'm glad you enjoyed it. devour food that's good for you, the same way, you devour food that's not good for you.
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the farrest and empty spaces of new jersey are vast and often empty of everything but legend. you live here if you like a quieter life, of not being messed with. 1.2 million acres of atlantic cedar, swampland, forests. it goes on and on, seemingly, at times, forever. it's easy to get lost. ♪ in the backwater marshes,
where the cranberries grow ♪ >> when i was a kid, as we passed through the pine bushes, we joked nervously about pineys, the strange, possibly imbred tribes of people who dwactually lived out there. somewhere between the trees. that was what we believed, anyway. ♪ the pineberry blues >> we meet at lucille's in warren grove. >> the legend of the journey devil is mother leads had 12 kids, found herself pregnant with a 13th, and said, may this child be a devil. there are many legendses that are told about it, but that legend says when the jersey devil was born, it morphed into this creature, flew up the chimney and was gone into the night. other legends say it killed everybody in the room. it's supposed to have the head of a horse, wings of a bat, hoofs, but you have people say they've seen horns on it, it
breathes fire, it's got a real long tail with a triangle on it. >> it sounds like my little pony with a forked tail. that doesn't sound frightening to me. >> it's supposed to have big, red eyes and some people say the head of a goat. >> goat's a little scarier. ♪ the folks that live in the barren ♪ ♪ they have a story to tell ♪ about that old leeds woman ♪ and her child from hell ♪ at night he put wings on ♪ and flew out into the night ♪ they say you still hear him screaming ♪ ♪ when the conditions are right ♪ ♪, yeah, i swear it's true ♪ these pine barren blues >> what's out there?
who are pineys? do they roam the forest at night, searching for souls to capture? >> no. pineys are people that live in the pine barrens. there was a time years ago that if you would have called somebody like that a piney, you'd have got shot. >> really? >> but now people embrace it. people like to be thought of as living off the land. they have bumper stickers now, you know, piney power. >> how do you make your living? >> it's good to farm blueberries and cranberries. it's a lot of fishing, a lot of clamming. hopefully, the oisering is coming back in the delaware bay. the bay supported a lot of jobs. >> the pine barrens have been settled for a long time. >> a long time. some of the first people who came here were the glass makers and saw the incredible sand we have out here, called sugar sand, pure white and it's perfect for making glass, to the point it didn't have to be washed or processed in any other way. there were hundreds of glassworks and they're just ruins now. >> thank you. >> thank you! >> so it's not like the rest of
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you want to talk mythic, epic, story, empathetic, that sort of thing? welcome to wellsburry park. the well spring of american music of a certain kind. home to, yes, the boss. and the jersey national anthem, "born to run." ♪ springsteen, bon jovi, little steven. but before them, there was this man. south side johnny who with his asbury dukes, pretty much created the template for the jersey sound. a place and really it could only have been this place, that changed music and lyrics foreve forever. >> asbury park. it's had a reputation as being a
happy hunting ground for musicians, because, what, a lot of bars? >> a lot of bars. it was just a tradition of bands playing here. which was funny, because the town was started not to have alcohol and not that kind of music. but after a while, the pressure just was too much for entertainment for people to come here. and it morphed into an r&b and rock 'n' roll haven. >> most bars don't hire musicians or bands? >> but this is the jersey shore, though. the jersey shore means people want entertainment. it's not just hard-drinking people. there are people here on vacation in the summer. >> atlantic city didn't have that reputation. >> well, we're not atlantic city. >> as i always like to say, good is good forever. great music, great songs, and a classic jersey sandwich. and at frank's, they honor that tradition of sliced ham, provolone, with some tomatoes,
onion, and shredded lettuce, and of course some olive oil, and that soft bread marries it all together. >> it's such a beautiful thing, they shred the lettuce and everything. >> used to come here as a kid? >> my father would order a pastrami sandwich and i would eat like a third and he would eat the rest. and my brother would order like eggs and bacon. he was a real trencherman. he could eat. >> asbury park, like its close cousin, atlantic city, with who it had much in common, suffered from the same problems. 13 years ago, the last time i came, was a shell of itself. dying, the beaches enemy, a sad and forlorn place. unlike atlantic city, asbury park fought to fix itself to become again the kind of place that anybody would want to live in. they didn't look for a magic bullet, like casino gambling. and to a great extent, they succeeded. by keeping alive what made
asbury park special. they hung on to what was important. like this place, where any overgrown child still wants to play. >> thank god. >> look! tilt up! >> no way. that's delicate. >> come on! >> hit! hit, baby, hit! man, these are tough! >> this is important for children. >> i think so. >>ion, your first exposure to racy images of women are all set in some sort of '20s fetishistic alternate universe. and it also teaches you shame. >> and teaches you humility when you lose. >> and exactly the limits of how much you can break the rules before it tilts. >> i think they should have a silt for all sorts of things.
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as i like to say, good a good forever. the atlantic ocean will always be magnificent. looking the at it always a humbling, even educational experience. it teaches us that men come and go, but no matter how foolish or outsized their dreams, how badly they screw up, bwhat we do here at the ocean's edge, the sea will outlast us. it will always draw us to her edges. when necessary, it will crush
us. >> we look at the taj. it's completely oblivious to everything going on around her. >> yeah. >> and that has got to be the most butt ugly building ever. >> i noticed at last night that some of the lights on the sign of the building are out. >> yeah. >> it's like a truck. >> >> or tuck. >> or rump. >> it's sort of perfect, actually. if you think of trump as kind of a carnival barker. his operation is designed to attract rubes and empty, you've got sort of a perfect metaphor her here. >> i hate sweets, but i'm a sucker for nostalgia. you can't go back, i can't go back. hell, i wouldn't even if i could. i sure don't want to ever have to be a teenager again. but those tastes and smells of
childhood, they work still. >> now, you're telling me you were not a big saltwater taffy fan? >> i just remember it was hard to chew. >> you had braces, so this was probably -- >> i can't remember if i had braces at this point. >> i don't like candy generally, but these have a mystical hold on me. >> even the color of the wrapper has this weird, you know, like, there should be music playing in the background. >> plmolasses, i totally rememb that. i'm getting a bunch of those. i don't know why, certain flavors really resonate. the peanut, i know exactly what that tastes like. i remember the vanilla really powerfully. >> look, i'm not even a vanilla guy, really. i'm more a chocolate guy. i think i remember pink ones, so it must have been strawberry. >> wintergreen, i remember. >> licorice sounds good.
peppermints. >> i'll keep these in the car. >> like cookies and cream. does it melt? >> whoa! that's a lot of taffy. >> yeah. >> this stuff isn't fattening, by the way. eat as much as you want. >> is it gluten free. >> it's all-natural. >> that's what i thought. >> atlantic city will never die. good is, indeed, good forever. and atlantic city will be great again. asbury park, camden, all of my home state. >> i'm convinced when the tide has come and washed all the green heads away, we'll once
again be magic. i hope i'm there to see it. i didn't even think about it. about death. but shooting at those things, anybody in the camera was shot. immediately. by a russian soldier. at that time, i didn't think about that. but i found that i had to think about it. >> you were alive and holding a camera at a very important time in history. you had to think, i'm doing something important. >> it's very easy to make pictures, butic