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goggles, night vision scopes that they have on the ground. and also the flare which is the forward looking infrared on the aircraft. so yes it is an advantage to catch him in day light. but, you know they will continue searching with that type of technology. >> all right, art, thank you very much. sir, thank you to all of you. our continuing coverage of the breaking news continues with "ac 360." good evening. thank you for joining us today. history was made. for generations to come what happened on this day will change the lives of millions of men and women. there are a number of stories we are following and we'll bring you over two hours. huge developments for the manhunt in new york. one, richard matt its dead shot to death by authorities. hours age the other one, cop killer david sweat on the run. authorities now saying they're "right on top of him." we're expecting a press conference from governor cuomo. the first time we hear what
happened and what is now a breathless manhunt. we'll bring you thatten a moment. tonight, we'll show you president obama's powerful eulogy for those murdered at the emanuel ame in south carolina. but we begin tonight with the decision by the supreme court declaring marriage a fundamental right and right that gays and lesbians can not be deprived in not in any state of the union or not in america anymore. [ cheers and applause ] for supporters of marriage equality joy outside the court, the ruling came down. impromptu celebrations in new york's greenwich village in the spot 46 years ago, the stonewall uprising began. essentially a street fight for equality that brought us to this day. in some of the 13 states where same-sex marriages were prohibited. couples did what they wanted to do for years. they got married today.
the case that paved the way though stemmed from an already existing marriage and a man named james obergifeld who wanted to be named on his husband's death certificate as surviving spouse. the case made the way to the supreme court, today, 5-4 majority ruled in his favor. writing for the court and jind by liberal justices ginsberg kennedy summed it up this way. he wrote, no union is more profound than marriage for it embodies the highest ideals of love fidelity devotion sacrifice and family. it would miss understand these men and women to say they disrespect the idea of marriage their plea is that they do respect it. respect it so deeply that they seek to find a fulfillment for themselves. their hope is not to be condemned to live in lonliness, excluded from one of civilization's oldest institutions. they ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law, he wrote.
the constitution grants them that right. >> president obama who ordered the end of don't ask don't tell and oversaw the supreme court defeat of the defense of marriage act said that today's ruling in his words made our union a little more perfect. >> this morning the supreme court recognized that the constitution guarantees marriage equality. in doing so they have reaffirmed that all americans are entitled to the equal protection of the law. that all people should be treated equally regardless of who they are or who they love. >> all four of justice kennedy's colleagues dissented, in stinging language not just at justice kennedy seemingly at his writing. the opinion is couched in a style that is as pretentious as the content is egotistic.
roberts called it an act of will, not legal judgment. writing who do we think we are? >> another question is who are we? where are we at this moment as a country now that the supreme court has spoken? in a moment we'll talk to the plaintiff and winner. first senior legal analyst and supreme court historian jeffrey toobin and on the phone, the centerpiece of his wright blogging and, being, before many gay people thought it possible. jeff let me start with you. what do you make of the ruling today? >> you know decades from now, law students will be struggling as we have today, to pronounce the name but this is such an enormous decision that is in part about, you know the right to marriage but really a statement about where we are as a country now which is incredibly different from where we were just a decade ago.
2003 was the first time that any state had same-sex marriage. that was massachusetts. and here 12 years later the whole country has it. >> andrew sullivan i remember an article for "new republic" in 1989 when you made the case for same-sex marriage, equality, when few people were talking about it. what did you think when you heard the ruling this morning? >> i felt overwhelmed i guess. i think it is a momentous moment not just constitutionally, but morally. the key word in that beautiful by kennedy was dig ninitydignity. [ indiscernible ] and to have his name with that husband echos so many tragedies
that occurred during the aid epidemic how people were treated. and i'm just thank god that this happened. i also thank america. because i really do believe that people were prepared to listen people were prepared to talk and eventually mind were changed. and that's what our democracy is really about. and so it's an amazing day. i am here in provincetown. suddenly the air is full of this excitement and energy and empowerment. and it is just a great day. i never thought i would live to see it. i doubt you did too. >> you know one of the things that one of the many things that struck me today is when the decision was announced and there was a celebration at the supreme court. what are they saying? they didn't sing we shall overcome sort of the anthem of the civil rights movement. they sang the star spangled banner.
which struck me as very symbolic of how this has been -- a conservative movement in many ways. if you look what gay people have fought for in america, what have they fought for? the right to be in the army and the right to get married. not exactly radical ideas. one reason why it has taken over. you are talking about over 60% in opinion polls now support marriage equality. that's just huge. >> andrew is this morning one of the thoughts i had not only about all the couples waiting in states to get married. this is obviously a great day for them. i thought about all the people who have come before you or i or anybody else who is alive today all those generations of gay and lesbian americans who lived lives in many ways in the shadows. and who found a way to love but who had to love in the shadows who couldn't hold hands with their loved ones in the street or fired from their jobs.
i interviewed a gay couple together since 1949 interviewed them in 1996 and they ultimately ended up dying together a few months apart. but they could never publicly announce their love for each other because they were afraid of losing their jobs. i just thought of all of the generation whose lived kind of half lives in a way not by choosing but because they were forced to. >> yes, and the very human pain they lived through every day. and the immense shame they felt for so long for no reason. they had to pretend they were straight. all the families that were poisoned with that potential deception. and i think of all the kids who
will grow up today who will probably not remember or understand the last 30 years, but will take it for granted when they are, figure out that they have as much right to be a human being in america as anybody else and as much dignity and worth. nothing more but now, nothing less. you read it hear it in the opinion of the united states supreme court. it just has a fial nalfial -- finality and grandeur. >> i almost don't want to play this. you started advocating for marriage equality and there were a lot of people who didn't take you seriously. we found a clip of some people that didn't take you seriously. you were on cnn's "crossfire" in 1993 with gary bower and pat buchanan. i want to show some of that exchange. >> the bottom line here that both of you continue to miss or
ignore is that healthy societies do not, never have and should not treat homosexuality on a moral or social par with the heterosexual family. a society that does that is in fact as your introduction suggests on the way to decay and decadence. >> let me tell you what homosexual behavior is in this case, it is loving another person for the rest of your life. that is homosexual behavior. i respect your right -- you won't respect mine. >> and they just dismissed you out of hand. >> yes. i know. it they just regarded it as absolute absurdity. many in the gay community looked at us as if we were out of our mind. this is the one thing you will never get. it was the one thing we thought we would never get, but you knew
it was the one thing that meant everything. everything. and, a full inclusion in the family a full citizenship, no shame, and no no disguise. and wow, yes. it brings me back. and those were amazing days. but i knew we were right. you have got to remember i just felt as long as we kept at it. we nearly had a federal marriage amendment. we had the clintons and bush s against us. this is a long story. so anyway. thank you for having me. thank you for sharing this day with me. it has been wonderful. >> andrew thank you for being with us tonight. jeff toobin as well. we talked about james obergefeld. he stepped outside the court. departed as a hero to many. including president obama who told him on the steps of the
court with our cameras rolling. watch. >> yes, it is mr. president. >> i figured when i saw you that we were going to be hoping for some good news. we did. and i want to say congratulations. >> thank you, so much sir. >> you know -- your leadership on this you know changed the country. >> i really appreciate that, mr. president. it has really been an honor for me to be involved in this fight and to have been able to you know, fight for my marriage and live up to my commitments to my husband. i appreciate, i appreciate everything you have done for the lgbt community and it is really an honor to have become part of that fight. >> i'm really proud of you and -- and you know just just know that you know not only have you been a great example for people but you're also
going to you know bring about a lasting change in this country. and it's -- it's pretty rare when that happens. so i couldn't be prouder of you and your husband and god bless you. >> thank you, sir, that means an incredible lot to me. and, yeah, thank you. >> all right. take care. >> thank you for the call mr. president. >> you bet, bye-bye. >> bye. >> at the end of an extraordinary day for him, and the country, he joins us tonight. jim, first of all, when you heard the court's decision what was that moment like? >> it made me feel more like an american more equal. and i missed my husband. for people who may not know this this start ford you when you tried to get your name on your
husband's certificate, it took you all the way to the supreme court. did you have any idea at the start of the fight it wouldened upwouldened -- end up here today? >> never. i think in the back of our minds that might have run through our thoughts. but for us we were living so much in the moment. >> because of today's ruling your name will remain on your husband any death certificate. and as of off to day you have the same rights as every other married couple across across the united states. i'm wondering, one of the things i was thinking about this morning. all the people who have come before you. and all the people who have had to live half lives in a sense, who haven't been able to be by their partners' bedside. who haven't been able to call their partner their husband or wife who haven't been able to -- keep their job because they were gay, who haven't been able to serve in the military because they were gay. and i'm wondering how much of what you were fighting for was also for them?
>> a great deal. it was a way for me to in essence thank them. and to acknowledge the fact that i'm where i am. and in great part to their sacrifices. and in their ability not to live their life that way. so this really is a thank you to them. as well as the hopeful thing for the next generation. and everyone out there to make this a better country. >> does it you know you say you feel more like an american today today. does it change the way you view your relationship? does it change the way you think other people will in the future other gay and lesbian people will view their relationships? does it -- does it give it a foundation that that -- that you always knew existed but perhaps in other people's eyes did not? >> absolutely. for us that's how we always felt about each other. we felt married.
our family and friends -- treated us as we were married. that's huh they thought of us. so for me it's that final legal governmental stamp of approval that says "yes you are married, and your relationship matters." it is something that we respect. and i can only imagine how many other couples across the country right now have that feeling. i think what a wonderful legacy for my husband. he loved me. i loved him. we were able to fight for that. we were able to do this for so many people across the country. >> can you tell us a little bit about your husband. what kind of guy he was? what was it about him that first drew you to him? >> probably what first drew me was his nose. i liked his nose. >> his nose? >> he hated his nose. but i liked it. but, no he was an incredibly charming wiltywilty -- witty person.
he had a wonderful way of speaking and describe things like no one i have ever known. he was so generous. he would give people anything. do anything for people. and that's a family trait. his brother is the same way. his mom was the same way. and those were the things that i think about when i think about john just his generosity and his charm, his wit. >> i also read that you keep in touch with john every day before you fall asleep you tell him about your day. i wonder if it is not too personal. what are you going to tell him about today? >> i think it will be something short and simple. baby, we won. and you can rest easy. you can truly rest in peace knowing that our 20-year relationship our marriage can never be erased from your death certificate. and probably just that i miss him and i love him. and it's thanks to him that i had the strength to do this. >> well jim, thank you very much. and thank john for us as well. thank you. >> i will. thank you, anderson.
>> quite a guy. 20-year relationship. fighting for the right to say that it was his husband. i was also looking at the banner there, same same-sex marriage after today, no heterosexual marriage same-sex marriage there is just marriage in every state of the union. >> a remembrance to the millions of gay and lesbian americans who never lived to see this day who were never allowed to live as fully equal open citizens. next the breaking news out of upstate new york. one fugitive killed. police in hot pursuit of the other. two weeks after the prison break. this all could be coming to a head tonight. expecting to hear from new york's governor shortly. we could hear more momentarily about what is going out there. but first, a quick break.
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and the driver called 911. the search for the other fugitive david sweat goes on. happening less than 15 miles south of the canadian boreder around malone new york. where gary tuchman is and working sources in washington justice correspondent pamela brown. let's start in malone. gary what's the latest? >> richard matt anderson turned 49 years old yesterday. he will not be turning 50. he is dead. shot by police a few hours ago. but his colleague, accomplice david sweat, got away. this is where they're searching for him right now. this is called titus mountain elephant's head park. where hundred of police officers are as we speak. looking for him. they tell our cnn reporter deborah feyerick they're right on top of him, but as of now they haven't captured him. they have moved lights into the area and are trying to get sweat, trying to nab him. they do believe they're together. what we are being told today, is that they found items of both of these men in another cabin they
they burglarize aid izeized a cabin, ten miles to the southwest of the cabin they burglarized saturday. led them to believe they're heading toward the canadian border. couple of shots fired today. police went to the area where the shots were fired. they encountered matt holding a shotgun. then was shot and killed. the search goes on as we speak. they're very optimisting they will find sweat and this will all be over. both of these men were smart enough off to get out of prison. it's very clear to this point at least for matt he wasn't smart enough off to stay alive after. back to you. >> do we know is david sweat armed? >> they don't have they weren't sure that either of them they thought both of them were armed. but they didn't know until they shot and killed matt that he had a weapon. they do not know for sure if sweat has a weapon. but they are operating under the assumption he is armed and of course is dangerous. >> i want to bring in pamela. pamela you are learning more about what led up to the
confrontation between matt and authorities. what have you learned? >> that's absolutely right. we are learning as gary pointed out that richard matt was armed with a shotgun. that there were actually more there was more than one shotgun taken out of the cabin that the men were hiding in where their dna was found. we know they took several items. presumably david sweat is also armed. and that's what authorities are assume right now since more than one shotgun was taken out. aparentally earlier this -- apparently earlier this afternoon. shots broke out. a driver of a camper heard the shots. and called 911, not realizing that the camper was the target that richard matt apparently fired shots at the camper and officials believe that he was trying to carjack it. so the 911 call was placed. then 20 minutes later the driver of that camper called 911 back after the driver realized that his, the camper was struck. so he realized something was up. authorities flooded that area in
new york. we know a shootout ensued from there between the border patrol tactical units and richard matt with authorities. shootout. richard matt was killed by border control. the big consrn iscern is david sweat is armed more than one weapon taken out of the cabin. >> are authorities prepared. gary talked about them bringing in lights are they prepared to search through the night? >> they are. we know that the fbi for one has aerial surveillance that has the infrared technology on it. so this technology allows them to see humans bodies at night. it compares the body temperature of a human to the background to the environment, so of course actually it's used at night because the it is easier to -- differentiate between the temperatures of the environment and the body heat. so in some ways they are very very equipped to deal with this. and as we have heard they're closing in.
it appears, they have a hard perimeter around david sweat right now. anderson. >> night is starting to fall. pamela brown, gary tuchman. we'll check in throughout the two hours. new york governor andrew quo macuomo. and we'll talk to experts on tracking fugitives and tracking them down. later the long road to the supreme court ruling. joined by one of the pioneers in the marriage movement. the e-class has 11 intelligent driver-assist systems. it recognizes pedestrians and alerts you. warns you about incoming cross-traffic. cameras and radar detect dangers you don't. and it can even stop by itself. so in this crash test,
some very new information in the manhunt for david sweat. a few moments ago gary tuchman reported officers are on top of him. we know how close. what are you hearing? >> we are just being told as we speak. there is a perimeter up behind the mountain. and authorities believe that david sweat is contained. there have been no shots fired so far. but they believe he is contained. they have him surrounded. as we speak, you see that bus coming down the street right now. that bus was full of police officers. came up there. dropped them off on the other side of the mountain. they have an ambulance on that side of the mountain. we counted between 60 and 70
police officers in 45 minutes have come up the street headed behind the mountain. they believe sweat is contained. once again, richard matt is dead. anderson. >> so, you say he is contained. do we have any sense of how big the perimeter is i assume you don't? >> contained means the perimeter is very small. we don't know how small it has gotten. they appear to be very confident that his capture or his death is imminent wecht imminent, we can tell you we have authorities 25 miles north on the canadian border keeping an eye on the border. what they're doing when you drive to canada you talk to canadian authorities when you go through. you have to talk up u.s. authorities. open up everybody's trunk. want to make sure nobody is carrying sweat in their vehicle. doing that at the border. they believe both men were head towards canada. matt shot and killed going nowhere. they believe the capture of sweat could be imminent. >> we will bring any information live. we expect governor cuomo will
speak to reporters in five minutes. lenny, david sweat is on the run, the idea he is contained. what does that tell you? >> well anderson that is a home run, if that's true. i am hearing it is. that perimeter is tightened up pretty good. the law enforcement folks have to be tactically sound. i'm sure they are. don't want to get any crossfires or whatnot. the noose is tightening andersen. >> chris swecker in a case like that what do you do? try to got a message to him? try to get him to come out? how does that evolve? >> anderson it is no longer a search. it is a tactical operation. cool heads in the command post will have to make good decisions. they obviously want to make sure nobody gets hurt. that's paramount right now.
darkness is coming on. they're going to have to make some tough decisions as to whether move in. i think that will be sweat's decision whether he comes out alive or dead. >> john does that tell you they have eyes on him. they've have eyes on him. i would assume they would have sniper rifles on him as well. >> not necessarily eyes on him. i wouldn't say that. again you have difficult conditions. thick underbrush and so on. but it's a win-win. time is on the side of law enforcement. and, right now, everything is in sweat's hand how he wants this to come out. >> the key at this point, lenny, keep the perimeter tight? >> absolutely. keep it tight. they have enough assets on the ground out there with aviation the support. infrared. thermal imaging. hostage rescue. teams are there, negotiators, s.w.a.t. teams. they have everything there. and as john said hopefully this goes down without incident. >> as we said probably two minutes or so away from governor andrew cuomo giving a press conference. you see the location of the podium on the right-hand side of your screen. we are obviously going to bring
that to you live as soon as as it happens. chris, in a case like this i mean we don't know if authorities are clear on whether or not david sweat is armed. they apparently didn't, weren't sure. if richard matt had a weapon until he was shot and killed. they found the weapon on him. spotted the weapon before they shot him. we don't know whether or not sweat has one. >> they have to assume he is armed, andersen. they can make no other assumption at this point. if heave does make a movement they're not going to give him the benefit of the doubt. he killed a cop. he is a violent criminal escapee. if hive wants to come out alive he will have to move very slowly and show that he is ready to give up. >> in a case like this john do they get on a bull horn and tell hem to come him to come on out. >> it could be. tactical folks on the ground will make the call. they know the terrain the best
up there, these tactical uniits. you are going to play off their experience dealing with those mountains. the advantage is with law enforce. on this. >> in terms of time. john was talking about time being on the side of law enforcement, with night falling, i guess given that they allegedly have him contained. given that they have thermal imaging equipment and also even bringing in lights i assume i guess, night is not that big an issue if he is not necessarily on the move? >> it is a big issue. i mean it is not huge. it is big. i've mean they'll wait it out until morning if they have to. i was out on ape few of these where we have to do that. his mind set at this point, anderson if he is captured alive he is going to die in segregation. he doesn't care. law enforcement has their hand full at this point. and they're, deaffinitely well equipped to respond accordingly. >> in a prim fer likeerimeter like this how close are law enforcement to
each other. you don't want big gaps the idea that some body will be able to sneak through. is it literally a circle around an individual no matter how large the circle may be. >> consistently moving. they're in raiddio communication with aviation support. command post fired up. everybody talking to each other. earlier, i said you didn't want cross fire with law enforce: enforce:they're tactically sound. swat teams these are professionals. they will do whatever it takes. to answer your question they have off to beep very very careful out there. >> chris, there are unanswered questions, how the two were able to escape. what help the two may have had. what gene palmer's role the exact role of mitchell. would the preference be to bring him in alive? >> i think they very much would look to bring him in alive and learn as much as they can about the whole scope and extent of this escape. and who else may have helped them. deaf nift
definitely want to take him in alive. >> i also want to to bring in pam brown, who has been reporting on this as well. pam, just just bring us up to date on the latest you have been hearing from your sources? >> i have been hearing from my sources of course they're in hot pursuit of david sweat now closing in on him there in upstate new york. and the big concern all alookng is that he is armed. we know his accomplice richard matt was armed. in fact there was a shootout earlier today between richard matt and law enforcement officials including the border patrol tactical units which ultimately shot and killed matt. but they clearly were very desperate, andersen the two men were hiding out in a cabin and we know they took belongings from there including the shot guns. and apparently they shot at a camper today trying to carjack it. clearly these were desperate guys. we are being told we believe they were dehydrated. probably very hungry and going
to desperate means by you know shooting at this camper and that is ultimately what led to a 911 call alerted authorities that something was going on. and we know that they flooded that area in upstate new york and that's where the shootout began. apparently the driver of that camper heard gunshots called 911, but having no idea that it was these fugitives, these two men who have been on the loose for 21 days now we know. that was, response bum forible for that shootout. for the gunfire. then 20 minutes later, andersen the driver apparently noticed there was a bullet hole in the camper and realized his camper was struck. had no idea. at first. called 911 back. and i think that really elevated the concern there. so one down. but one to go here this is not over yet. >> and again. awaiting the press conference from governor andrew cuomo. we anticipate any moment now.
jean casarez standing by a lot of activity people coming and going. the fact that after so long this thing could be in the final minutes. it has the got to be a great relief. ought of but obviously tensions remain high. >> it is a great relief. we are miles away from the prison. we understand this community is absolutely ecstatic when they heard that richard matt had been killed. now david sweat -- there is only about 30 more minutes of day light here. there is active tef. we are at state headquarters for new york state police. i would say, 10 to 20 helicopters. when news started broking they took off from here. when it was heard that david sweat was on the run. they're starting to come back now. we have just had in the last few minutes two helicopters land. saying that it is near darkness right now. but they are starting to come back. but at the same time, we are learning that law enforcement does have helicopters, pam brown was saying, equipped with the
sonar, the radar at night, that can be used to diffuse the brush, to see human beings and their bed temperature that are there, the new york state police told us earlier today their experts were telling them that they blaefdelieved that the two, walked and roamed during the night time. i've don't know if you can hear the helicopter or not. there is another one coming in now. the helipad is behind me where they come and go. but they are returning as dusk definitely settles in upstate, new york. >> obviously seeing movement now around the podium. looked like a number of law enforcement personnel are gathering in order to be there for governor cuomo's statement. which we anticipate probably now, just in a matter of seconds or a minute or two. obviously going to bring that to you live. jorngs in a john in a time like this. once it is done. whether sweat is taken alafive or
dead. how much of an after action review is there of the entire manhunt in terms of lesson that scan be learned for the next time? >> that's a good point. there is always an after action review in a case of this magnitude. this is sort of unprecedented, in the magnitude of this. >> in terms of what the number of personnel involved? >> and the magnitude of the escape itself. i've mean how much was involved. was there any other staff members involved? things of that nature. that would be the value of him being taken alive. maybe he could close some of the gaps, okay. but obviously it is in his hand. the after action would be a ben fete to fit -- ben fit to all corrections around the united states. >> you have somebody who as we said has nothing to lose. he is not going to see the outside of a prison again. if he is able to escape again. he is going to have more time added to his sentence.
he is already a cop killer. this guy knows this is it for him. >> yeah no absolutely. that's i'm sure his mind set at this point. he was there with matt. apparently. so he is probably well aware of what happened with him. and, you know heave hunkered down running or whatever he is doing. but, i'm happy to hear that hopefully he is contained. they have a very tight perimeter set up. and you know it is it is getting dark there. they have thermal imaging, infrared. he could duck under a log. thermal imaging won't pick up on him. but as the it gets dark the area cools down a little bit. and bodies heat up. >> let's listen to governor andrew cuomo. >> thank you, good evening to all of you. i want to thank the new york state police nor being here department of correction services dec, our partners from the fbi, the u.s. marshals u.s. customs and border patrol we have the vermont state police
here clinton county district attorney. franklin county district attorney the sheriffs from franklin and clinton, platsburg city police. malone village police department and the saint regis mohawk tribal police. this afternoon as has been reported there was a civil complaint. civilian scumcomplaint, there was a gunshot that was fired at a camping trailer. the state police responded. to investigate the complaint. they came upon a cabin. they went inside a cabin. they detected the smell of gunpowder. the law enforcement partners were then notified and the customs and brdorder patrol tactical team helicoptered in. and approached the site. the team came upon matt who was
an escaped prisonerzsoner from dan a dannemora. engaged mr. matt who was armed. and mr. matt was shot and killed. we have no reason to believe that mr. sweat was not with mr. matt at the time. but we don't have any confirming evidence that he was either. several lead that are being tracked down as we speak about mr. sweat and his possible where abuts. but we don't have anything to confirm where mr. sweat as it this time. i want to thank new yorkers, i want to thank the people of clinton county franklin county who have put up with a lot over the past 20 days. we have had over 2,300 lead. so new yorkers have been very helpful in responding to put an end this crisis. i want to thank our partners in law enforcement who have done an
extraordinary job. our local partners our federal partners. who have been away from their homes and families to come here and help us. over the past three weeks or so. you never want to see anyone lose their life. but i would remind people that mr. matt was an escaped murderer from a state prison. mr. matt killed two people who we know about. mr. matt killed his boss in a dispute and dismembered him. he fled to mexico and then he killed another person in mexico and was imprisoned in mexico. mr. sweat is also dangerous. mr. sweltat was involved in the killing of a sheriff avenue deputy in broom county where the sheriff's deputy had come upon a
crime. mr. sweltat and his accomplices hit the sheriff's deputy with the car. got out, and shot him 22 times and then ran over him. so these are dangerous, dangerous men. and that's why you see law enforcement from across this country arrayed before you today cooperating with one mission to bring these gentlemen to justice. i am now going to turn it over to superintendent joseph damico head of the state police which have been heading up the investigation in cooperation with our partners. i would remind everyone that this is an ongoing investigation. so the amount of information that can be provided to the public is something that well have to watch carefully. obviously we dent wanton't want to give
the people we are pursuing any more information than we need to. with that. superintendent joseph damico. >> thank you, governor. so i just wanted to take a second and bring you back to how we got into this area searching where we discovered matt today. as you recall we had a report of a burglary last saturday where we were able to identify property left at the scene by matt and we deployed heavily in that area. that burglary was off within in a camp three miles off of any paved roadway. wednesday night, late wednesday night we received a report of a break-in of a cabin off route 41 in the town of malone. a screen had been cut. a window was broken into. we responded up. we recovered evidence from that break in. which also indicated matt was present at that scene. late yesterday we deployed a
number of uniform officers. and tactical teams and started to establish a fairly wide grid for searching. into today, we, we were able to confirm that prompt recovered at the scene was in fact matt this morning. late morning we discovered through search teams, what we believed to be a camp where somebody had laid down. we found candy wrappers and some other things left behind. that was all seized. so we had a fairly aggressive search in the area today. about 1:51 today. well received the report that a -- a camper person towing a camp er camper believed their camper had been shot. we heard a sound. thought they had a flat. got out. realize they'd didn't have a flat. drove on. eight miles. when they pulled into the camp sight. they sxam mined edxamined the trailer they were towing and realized there was of a bullet hole through the
back of the camper. based on that they notified state police. we responded and realized location of the shooting was eight miles back. as the governor indicated we deployed teams from multiple agencies to that area. we were able to get into the cabin. where we discovered the smell of gunpowder and realize a weapon had been fired. also there was indication that someone recently had been there and fled door. as we were doing the ground search in the area. there was movement detected by officers on the ground. what they believed to be coughs. they knew they were dealing with humans as opposed to wildlife. a team a tactical team from customs and border protection met up with with matt in the woods, challenged him. and he was shot dead by border patrol at that time. we recovered a 20 gauge shot gun from matt's body at the location.
based on that we continue to search. we have a lot of people in the area. we have canines. a decent perimeter set up. searching for sweat at this time. we have no actual sighting of sweat by law enforcement. but we have no indication that swelt sweat wasn't accompanying matt when he was shot and killed. we'll main tainttain the perimeter. do a ground search. until such time as we receive other information, you know we will be doing a very thorough search. we have followed up in excess of 2,400 lead at this time. we take every one serious. thank the public for the tips they called in. just as the the governor said. i would look to thank all my law enforcement partners who stand here with me today. of a tremendous effort on the ground over the last three weeks. 24 hours a day, and the state police. couldn't have done it without the people stanning ing
trufly -- truly appreciate it. we know it is very intrusive -- [ applause ] we do understand it is very intrusive to have at the level of law enforcement that we have maintained over the last three weeks. i've thank you for your patience for your support, and for, for looking out for our officers. we truly do appreciate it. i would ask though that we remain vigilant. because sweat is still out there. he is considered dangerous. we are going to continue to look for him and search just as hard until we find him. but please any kind of sightings, don't approach. please dial 911 or our tip line. please let us know about it. so thank you. take some questions. [ inaudible question ] >> the shooting investigation is
on ongoing. this its pretty fresh for us. out at the scene. we're doing forensic work. obviously we'll be taking statements from the team involved in the shooting. i can tell you they verbally challenged him. told hem to put up his hands. at that time he was shot when he didn't comply. all i can say about that. until we continue our investigation. >> did he open fire? >> no there were no shots fired by matt at the scene. >> there you have a review of what the authorities now and the information they have given out about the killing of richard matt. the bottom line right now, perimeter has been established. the search is on for david sweat. they believe they have the location of him. we are going to continue off to fall low that story. want to thank our guest, lenny, chris, and more on the information of the capture of david sweat throughout the evening. live off to the 10:00 hour. coming up next, a short break. to day's other major news the supreme court landmark decision bringing marriage equality throughout the united states. we will have more reaction and
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>> looking there right now at the white house lit of in rainbow colors tonight. supporters of marriage equality celebrating to night at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. new york of course and across the country in the wake of the supreme court decision making marriage a right, a gay and lesbian americans cannot be excluded from. far from unanimous. the national debate has the not been either. tonight it is worth remembering so much of what life has been like for generations of gay americans and lesbian americans is not fully known because so much of that life and that love has happened in the shadows, all but ignored by history. >> the history of gays and lesbians in america has been largely hidden love expressed in secret lives too often lived in the shadows. for generations to be gay meant being foresaken by family fired by employers even risking arrest or forced hospitalization. gay life and gay love however found a way in cities across the
country gay people created their own families of friends and lovers their own society and culture which thrived. the notion of equal rights for gays and lesbians however seemed like a dream. in 1965 a man fired from his government job because he was gay along with fellow activist jack nichols picketed the white house. the obstacles ahead were clear. >> we discovered that americans kid how kid homosexuality more harmful than adultery or prostitution. >> a turning point, after decades of being targeted by police some arrest ford gathering together. patrons in the stonewall in new york's greenwich village fought back. and a new era of activism was born. with increased visibility came bitter pushback. >> a lifestyle that is both
perverse and dangerous. >> social conservatives who sought to ban gays and lesbians from working in schools found themselves doing battle with grassroots activist like harvey milk. >> there are 15 million lesbians and gay men! >> while some stigma slowly waned, in 1973 the american psychiatric association announced being gay was not a mental disorder. another battle was just beginning. in 1981 a mysterious disease began killing otherwise healthy gay men. >> this lethal epidemic sweeping out of control through the homosexual enclaves of america has been turned into a propaganda ploy in our opinion by homosexual sympathizers. >> early in the aids crisis they cast blame and led gays and lesbians to care for each other. gays like gay men's health crisis and act up were firmed to help the sick and push for
better treatments. >> i started to look around and in desperation for ways that i could find treatments to help save our lives and there was nothing coming out of our government's efforts. >> more than 650,000 americans have died of aid so far. new medicines which became availablen the mid 90s have turned hiv into a manageable condition. in 1994 hopes that democratic president might usher in a new wave of equal rights for gay and lesbian americans were dashed when president clinton signed don't ask don't tell into law preventing gays and lesbians from serving openly in the military. it wasn't until 2003 in the landmark supreme court case lawrence v. texas that laws criminalizing sex between gay people were ruled
unconstitutional. and once an unthinkable goal legalized same-sex marriage began to seem possible. it happened first in massachusetts in 2004. ♪ here comes the bride ♪ ♪ so gay with pride ♪ >> over the next ten years, 36 states and the district of columbia would eventually follow. despite years of political and legal challenges by equal rights opponents. in 2010 don't ask don't tell was finally repealed by congress and in 2013 the supreme court and the united states v. windsor threw out the so-called defense of marriage act granting federal recognition to married same-sex couples but only if they lived in a state where it is legal. and that ruling set the stage for today's historic decision by the supreme court. [ cheers and applause ] >> extraordinary day it has been. joining us two people who have helped us all get to this day, had a lot of stake today, evan
wolvesson, founder and president of freedom to marry, frank bruni op-ed columnist for "the new york times." evan good to have you on the program. you wrote a harvard law school thesis 32 years ago on making the argument for the right to same-sex marriage. we shouldn't call it same-sex marriage any more. it is just marriage. the right to marriage for all. >> it's marriage. >> a, your thoughts on today? and did you really believe 32 years ago this day would come? >> i always believed this day would come. i really call me crazy or whatever. people did. i really always believed that if we did the work and made the case the american people would move and the law would move. i, it's what kept me going. i always believed we would. i am so glad you began with the history. because people experience this as the the president said as the a thunderbolt that came from the blue. but in fact this has been four-plus decades in the making. so many people so much work so many conversations, but it is a
triumph of not just all the people and all right work but of america. that americans were willing to open their hearts and change their mind and we all within today. >> i keep coming back to this too. not just four decades. it is generations of gay and lesbian people in this country who never were able to live the full life that that they deserved. that their other fellow citizens were able to. and people who fought in world war i, world war ii. died on the battlefield. no one ever knowing who they really were. >> that's exactly right. and you know we can celebrate today. it is a triumph. and so much joy. an ocean of joy. i saw a couple who had been together 55 years, became the first couple to marry in texas today. so we can celebrate that. but you know at 55 years, you don't have that much more time. you think of all the people who didn't live to see this day. and then you look at what the dissent said in this opinion that somehow the constitution still should