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kimono. plastered with stewart's mug. >> i am all over you like a cheap suit. >> reporter: jon stewart and his mannerisms are going out with a bang. make that a -- >> boom, boom, boom! >> reporter: jeanne moos cnn. >> boom boom boom. >> reporter: new york. >> you can't top it. why would i try. thank you for joining us. and "ac 360" starts right now. good evening. thank you for joining us. in just about an hour ten republicans who want to be president will take the stage in cleveland for their first chance to persuade an audience they're ready for the job. nine of them will get the first primetime shots at the front-runner donald trump if they choose to take shots. one time 2008 front-runner rudy giuliani said he has a little ronald reagan in him, talking donald trump. he played the part arriving in a boeing 757, one of several aircraft in the trump fleet. walked down the steps.
his wife leading the way. talking to the cameras before taking a motorcade into town. we got a preview of what he could be facing when several runner-ups including two of the 2012 candidates had their debate. >> well when you look at the celebrity of donald trump, then i think that says a lot about it. one thing i like to remind people back in 2007, rudy giuliani was leading the polls for almost a year. i will suggest a part of that was celebrity. fred thompson was the other one. a man who spent a lot of time on that screen. i have had my issues with donald trump. i talked about donald trump from the standpoint of being an individual who was using his celebrity rather than his conservatism. how can you run for the republican nomination and be for single-payer health care? i asked that with all due respect. and nobody nobody on either one of these stages has done more than i have done and the people of the state of texas to deal with securing that border.
we sent our texas ranger recon, parks and wildlife wardens, i deployed the national guard after i stood on the ramp in dallas texas, looked the president of the united states in the eye and said "mr. president, if you won't secure the border texas will." that's exactly what we did. we need a president that doesn't just talk a game. but a president that's got real results. >> one after another. governor perry, and others gramled with the trump femme nonnon. one way or another. the rest will likely do the same tonight. we will all get to see how donald trump handles the spotlight. a big night all around. we are joined by dana bash from cleveland. everyone is looking to the top tier debate. the so-called happy hour debate earlier this evening. did it live of to its nickname? >> reporter: it was an hour. that's about all i will say about that. it wasn't -- happy. and it certainly didn't have
fireworks. it didn't have a lot of znging to it. it was very subdued. part of that may have been because the republican national committee and fox for some reason did not have people in the audience to kind of give the debate give the people on the panel a little bit of energy. they said they've couldn't deal with getting 4,500 people in and out of the room. but i think the one answer to that question i think that maybe people are going to be talking about, the buzziest part of this happy hour debate was carly fee re -- carly fiorina, on the early stage, not the later stage. she is so low in the polls. that may change for people really paying attention to this. she performed very well on style, in substance, really across the board. and in the debate and afterward, anderson in the spin room she had a two-pronged attack on hillary clinton and jeb bush on the issue of planned parenthood
and his statements about women's health. saying he played right into their hands. >> i will play both of the statements she made in a moment. also interesting, dana she was the most searched candidate on google according to google after the debate and during the debate. which they felt was sort of an early indication there was a lot of interest or most interest in her out of all of those on the stage. and the happy hour debate. what are you hearing about in terms of preparations coming up now for this next debate. how the candidates have been getting ready? >> all sorts of ways. you know every -- one of the candidates seems to have a different method to getting ready. if you are talking about the front-runner the man at the center of the stage. donald trump. if you believe him, he says that he is not doing traditional debate prep. he actually just arrived here in cleveland, just a couple hours ago. trump style. on his own jet. coming in with his whole family. he says that he is going to be donald trump. he insists he has kind of debated his whole life.
we will see if that translates to the stage. but other people have been doing it in different ways. the most interesting thing i heard, anderson jeb bush of course going to be looking at the stage to the right of donald trump. he has been looking at clips of how his opponents have been talking about him, kind of locker room sports style. to kind of get ready and maybe kind of have his spine stiffened for when people are, or people go after him. lots of different plans. but particularly he also lastly looked at the people who have most to lose. those are kind of on the flanks most directly going after trump if anybody is. >> dana. thank you. >> we will be on the air, immediately after the fox debate in the 11:00 hour and the 12:00 hour we will be going live until 1:00 a.m. with all the debate recap. want to bring in our panelists, donna brazil democratic strategist and also former reagan white house political
director, jeffrey lord and editor for "american spectator" cnn commentator, and anna navaro jeb bush supporter and friend of marco rubio. donna, curious your thoughts on how carly fiorina did. interestingly she was the most searched of all of them on google. >> i think she did herself well. she went beyond her talking points. she didn't just give her bio i thought she did at first. she started to have a contrast not just with the republicans in the race. but with the other woman in the race. hillary clinton. she is using her voice to not just put aside the republicans but also to raise the fact that she could beat hillary clinton in the general election. as you know she has to win the primary. and also i think she has to work her way up to get at the grownups table next time. >> jeffrey, interested in what you think of her and some of the others. rick perry sort of stumbled off the top. his first statement didn't exactly, wasn't all that sort of
coherent in terms of what he was saying. as somebody who has run before that was sort of surprising. >> i don't mean to be mean to governor perry. i do think there is a reason he didn't make the first primary debate. you know he also made the whole point of talking about donald trump before this. and then a little bit tonight. i don't think that's helped him a bit. so you know to the contrary. i think that's part of his problem. i thought they all did fairly well. it's sort of polentaish a little bland. >> polenta, mushy, bland. >> i get it. >> donald trump looms over this. there is a great political cartoon from 1900 when teddy roosevelt was picked on the ticket. and roosevelt horse, and william mckinley on the saddle of on the horn of the saddle. i think we have got something look that here. where there is this enormous
public personality who is just dominating this even when he is not in the room. >> you can feel his absence on that stage? >> correct. >> no doubt about that. >> your candidate, jeb bush. a lot wondering how he will do. bobby jindal said bush represents the establishment, saying the, telling the rest of the party, principles. what carly fiorina said on women's health care he said he misspoke. this is what fiorina said. >> i think it's going to become an ad. an ad. democratic campaign. hillary clinton jumped all over it for a reason. because she saw an opportunity. and it is foolish to say that women's health isn't a priority. of course it is a priority. >> jeb bush has a big war chest already. do you think he will get hit hard in the next hour? in the primary debate? >> i think some people are going to go after him certainly as the
supposed front-runner even though the front-runner is donald trump. i don't think jeb bush is going to go after people proactively. that's not who he is. he is going to be out there touting his record as governor. i think you are going to see -- governor huckabee do the same thing. tout his record. you will see a few people who are going to be touting who they are, their records, what they stand for, their positions. and others that are going to be hitting some of the candidates. i was surprised to see governor jindal hit, you know attack jeb bush in the first debate. god knows they used to -- and donna knows this from louisiana, god knows they used to agree on practically everything. he has certainly done a 180 in the last 180 days. but okay i guess people are entitled to evolve. and i do think carly fiorina was very effective. most effective in landing punches. the most articulate. not surprised. she is the most searched. she is one of the least known on that first debate the stage.
so people would have a reason to search for her. she performed very very well. >> jeff does donald trump try to do anything different tonight? or stick with what has gotten him here? >> just be donald trump. first of all he can't do anything else. this is the real donald trump. he will continue to be the real donald trump. used to have a saying in the reagan white house, let reagan be reagan. let donald trump be donald trump. one of the other things i would say, anderson one of the problems jep sjeb bush may have and others, the reagan-bush divide between the reagan wing and moderate represented by the bushes. curious to see if that surfaces here tonight, by name here people identifying with ronald reagan or the bush wing. >> anderson don't forget tonight, the candidate with the most debate practice is mike huckabee. he did well in the republican debates. back in the bygone years. he is a bible-thumping
evangelical feeling type of candidate. so i, if i was donald trump. i would watch out for mike huckabee. jeb bush is going to sit there and try not to harm anybody or let any one harm him. but i think mike huckabee is the one that is going to try to land a couple jabs. >> notably both of them have television experience. >> no doubt about that. 50 minutes away. we will be live two hours after the debate is over. soon as it is done. come of on back. we'll got to full analysis. if you missed debate. jeffrey lord. thank you. welcome to cnn. anna navaro donna brazile. we'll see all of them tonight. what it takes to pin donald trump down on some specifics. something that can be a challenge. certainly even one-on-one. are voters as focused on it as his opponents might hope they will be at this stage? later the top brass of the pentagon hacked. russia the prime suspect. this is incredible. new details are breaking as we
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plane. he said he would not cram for the exam. in fairness he its not run a big commanding lead by being a policy wonk. which may serve him poorly in cleveland or not. it may be seen as viewers and voters as a plus. just him being himself. whatever the verdict, here's what i discovered when i tried to get donald trump to get specific about some of what he has been saying. you talk about isis. last time we talked you said you had a plan to deal with them. you would be tougher anbody else. you said bomb the hell out of the -- >> take their money supply. >> get the oil. send in troops to ring the oil. i talked to folks who have experience on the ground. general saying they brought in exxon in 2008 exxon was there two weeks. said they don't want to get involved. >> they don't want to be involved politically. now they'll get involved. >> send in troops, ring around the oil fields. the general said they had 30,000 americans, 60,000 iraqis guarding the oil fields during the war, al qaeda was able to get in. >> i'm a better general than the
general you are talking about. >> you keep saying mexico is sending these people across. >> mexico is sending. you said it properly. thank you. >> but you offered no proof. that's what people say. >> you may have some very soon. i think the smart some people know. the streetwise people know. border guard know. you will find out if i have evidence. i'm not telling you now. you will find out what i have. >> you talked about building a great wall on parts of the border about being tough. >> let me just tell you, mexico is making an absolute fortune. because the trade deals with the united states are phenomenal for them and horrible for us. they're take our jobs. they're building factories, warehouses. they're building things we are not even thinking about. >> renegotiate trade deals and in that put in a price for the wall. >> absolutely. they will do it. i can do it easy. mexico is making a fortune off the united states. they will pay for that wall
believe me. >> well more now on the details and the donald. how it may play out tonight. how it factors into the candidates' tactics. jeffrey lord david gergen cnn senior political analyst. david, what do you think about donald trump tonight on the stage? a lot of people saying trump is going to have to lay out some specifics tonight. given the time limitations does he really have to do that? would that be a mistake? >> i don't think he has to start laying out policy positions and policy papers. that's not what this campaign is about. what i do think he has got to give us a rational for why he wants to be the president tonight. what is his cause? what mission is he trying to pursue? he remind me of ross perot in enthusiasm earlier. but ross kept going. because he had a cause he brought. remember all those charts on "larry king" about the deficits. >> but trump's theme is "make america great again."
that's not -- >> that's so vague. make america great. in what way? it's got to be i assume it is about economic growth that's where his strength is, natural strength out of corporate america. i wad assumeould assume that is where he is going to go. he will need to evolve. tonight i don't think he needs to do it very much. tons of people are going to tune in to see him. have not heard him. they're going to get the full trump experience tonight if you would. >> sounds like a ride at universal. the trump experience. >> you know but there is one thing, anderson for all right other candidates how to respond. trump is making a gift to the candidates tonight. he is going to draw in a huge audience have a chance to see them for the first time. if they're up for primetime this is a great opportunity. just as carly fiorina did so well this afternoon. somebody can step forward tonight and magically become a much more serious candidate if they do well. >> jeffrey can you remember a primary debate at this point in a presidential election that has
gotten so much attention? it's incredible. >> never. >> whether you are a republican democrat no matter where you are people are going to be tuning in? >> a five popcorn nighter. no question. i have never seen anything like this. >> all that talk about specifics and donald trump. a difference talking specifics and, and knowing specifics. you can, you can know specifics and not necessarily feeling you need to go into them. i guess the -- the criticism of donald trump or the question does he really know the specifics. or are his answers designed to mask a deficit of nolknowledge. >> no. i don't think it is. this is who he is. the thing i would suggest. a guy that built an enormous global trump empire. you can't possibly do that and not have some executive experience. know when you need new know details. when you need to apin thepoint people who will do the details and keep
you filled in. that's ronald reagan's style. krilt criticized into the presidency for not knowing details. used to drive tip o'neill nuts. i think when he passed away one of the prominent house democrats of the period said that well he wished he was more into substance. >> david, what about that comparison? >> to me it doesn't hold much water. i think ronald reagan actually had a whole lot of experience for years and years not only as governor of california writings radio talks. you know he got deeply into the substance over the years. and say on tax policy and jeffrey was, you know worked back in those, in that administration. he knows that reagan turned out to be a lot smarter about policies and people gave him credit for. >> yes. >> people said early on he is an actor, what does he know? but he actually did. >> i found a great quote from hamilton jordan and pat kadell september 1979 a gallup poll
said carter would beat reagan. hamilton jordan white house chief of staff, said the am scan people are not going to elect an almost 70-year-old, former actor who is a right-winger to the presidency. pat kadell said i am sal vagt over the data on reagan there is so much here we can use to defeat him. as it turned out. it didn't work out so well. >> david, one of governor kasich's advisers tweeted saying regarding trump. iffage in age >> and all of the publicity, that was the best tweet. and that's what i -- >> i should point out that donald trump does not actually drink. >> that's true. that goes to another point, anderson. the person who may do well against donald trump, is not straight on hard hitting. someone who does it with humor.
if we get a funny lean out of this. you will replay it time and time again tonight afterwards. everybody will be talking about it. the person who can come up with the one-liner that is funny. >> those kinds of things are harder to fight against. trump obviously in a knife fight you don't want to get into a knife fight with donald trump. he hits back hard. humor may be something that that somebody will want to try. the question is how many folks on the stage, you know have a great sense of humor? we'll see what happens in 30 minutes. >> david gergen. jeffrey lord. thank you. >> we'll dig deeper into another big question. who stands to gain the most and who has the most to lose among the contenders tonight? the pick up stinks with diesel. [ding] you've got to be kidding! oh please! ah! this is the end! oh my god! [brakes screech] we need resuscitation. mouth-to-mouth resuscitation. hurry up!
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presidential debates may not be contact sports. like athletes candidates have their preferred way of getting into the zone before the big night. here's what some of them told "the independent journal." >> before the debate i say a little prayer and drink a diet snapple iced tea. >> i like to be mentally focused bud relaxed. i play solitaire. >> i take my new phone thanks to
the donald. >> before a debate i go out and run. way to relax. can't take phone calls, reading e-mails or looking online. you are out running that clears your mind. >> before a debate i normally call my mom to get advice. hey, mom. i can't say that on television. >> tonight's debates. the one that happened. the main event coming up at 9:00. the first time the 2016 republican presidential candidates have shared a stage. the stakes may not be the same for all of them. that's obvious. so question is who stands to gain and lose the most tonight. i want to dig deeper now with our chief national correspondent john king gloria borger and nina malika henderson. >> donald trump has only emerged stronger is there any scenario under which he actually loses tonight? >> it's possible. he could say something. some of the others might come after him like carly fiorina did
or others did. he once said he was for single payer health care system. will that come up? i don't know. it will be on stage. easier for carly fiorina or rick perry to go after him. he is not there to defend himself. you don't get caught in the buzz saw. he has a lot to lose. he is the front-runner. going in he has most television experience. he has proven he is a great performer. all his goal has to be is hold. hive can hold what he has he is golden at the moment especially in the 17-candidate field. he doesn't need to groechltw. if he grows he is a bigger problem. the whole race who will be the alternative to jeb bush? the question in republican politics right now is who will be the alternative to donald trump. >> who can be the alternative to donald trump. >> gloria how much does he have to lose? he raised a lot of money? he stumbled. he is struggling? >> jeb bush wants to be the alternative to donald trump
tonight. to john's point. jeb bush has lost a lot of altitude due to donald trump. what he has got to do is go on the stage tonight and show he is not just another bush who wants to be the next ceo of the family business. people know his name. but to the base of the republican party, it's not such a great name. he has got to prove that he is conservative he has got to show that he is one of his aides put it to me "the adult in the room." and he also anderson has got to show a little bit of passion. jeb bush may have raised over $100 million. but he hasn't sort of he has a passion gap. and when you are standing next to donald trump who is all about passion and drama, jeb has to show a little bit, a little bit of that. and maybe he can be the candidate to use a little bit of hume mr. humor to deflect trump if trump end up attacking him. or the other candidates who may go after jeb. >> nina what about the
candidates a bunch getting more support early on rand paul chris christie, marco rubio. i would think they want to make some sort of impression to night? >> what carly fiorina was able to do in the last debate? able to barack throughreak through. if you are somebody like chris christie or kasich, barely making it the debate. you want to show you belong there, bring passion show that you are a good alternative to donald trump. bring that passion. one of the things interesting to see is how well people's personalities sort of transfer to this debate. donald trump obviously has a sort of bombastic personality, a lot of the pot shots he has taken on people on twitter at forums where the other person wasn't there. does that translate into the debate? does chris christie's combative style translate into a debate. rand paul, marco rubio as well. i think that will be really
interesting to see. you saw in the previous debate. lindsey graham who is pretty telegenic, witty, funny, he was pretty flat in the last debate. so i think just this environment is going to be a test for all of these candidates. >> yeah john how essential is it for jeb bush to establish himself, as someone who is his own person to gloria's point? >> i think gloria put it just right. number one he knows the conservative base disagrees on common core education, on path to legal status and a kinder gentler approach to the undocumented. he has to go back to his record as florida governor. on the whole i have a very conservative record. you should be happy with me even if you disagree with me on a couple of things. he need to do that with energy because the establishment of the party is looking at him. they still believe he is their front-runner. trump leads in the polls. most republicans thing, despite the improving numbers for donald trump. not just horse race numbers. donald trump's underlying numbers are improving as well.
despite that the establishment thinks at some point this is going to flame out. jeb bush needs to prove tonight that he is the 1-a. if donald trump is candidate one. he is 1-a. the challenge for the rest of the people, nia malika mentioned. if you are christie kasich walker marco rubio, a senator, trying to make the generational argument you are competing for the same spot. yes we have citizens united. yes, everybody has a billionaire, super pac. after a first debate. ask a the governor last time. if you don't perform strongly your money can start to dry up. >> scott walker appears to be getting some traction but does he need to prove tonight that he belongs up there with the front-runners? >> he does at the big boy table. yes he does. he is doing really well in iowa. actually a favorite to win iowa. he is raising a lot of money. he has a great campaign organization. but he is young. people don't know who he is. and they're kind of looking at this field and say who is this
guy? right? and so this is an opportunity for him to look presidential. because the that's the hurdle by the way that they all kind of have to pass. including donald trump. whatever looking presidential means, it's different to each person. but they have to look like they can run the country and scott walker is one of those people who is kind of an unknown. i think this is a huge huge opportunity for him tonight. >> yeah. gloria thank you. john king. nia malika henderson. thank you. donald trump running an unorthodox campaign. leading in all the polls. the question its what style will he bring to the debate stage tonight? we'll talk about that ahead.
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donald trump supporters like this blunt talk brash style, no question. will it be on display in cleveland to night? trump said he wants this first debate to be civil. he is going to play nice and keep it on a high level. he also said that if he is attacked by any opponents he will have to "do something back." as we all know he is pretty good at that. some examples of that now from our randi kaye. >> reporter: rosie o'donnell
learned what it was look to pick a fight with donald trump back in 2006. here's what she said on "the view" after hearing trump wouldn't fire tara connor after miss usa admitted to using drugs. >> he is the moral authority. left the first wife. had an affair. left the second wife had an affair. hd kids both times. he is the moral compass. >> reporter: trump fired back in "people" magazine saying he would likely sue rosie and he looked forward to taking lots of money from my nice fat little rosie. trump called her a loser. and later told this to larry king. >> reporter: she came to my wedding. she ate like a pig. and seriously, the wedding cake was, it was like missing in action. >> reporter: at a white house correspondents dinner in 2011 comedian seth meyers slammed trump's expected run for the white house. donald trump has been saying he will run for president as a republican which is surprising since i just assumed he was running as a joke. >> reporter: trump sat stone
faced. but not to be outdone, trump fired back on twitter. after it was announced myers would host the emmys. saying that seth meyers is hosting the emmy awards is a total joke. he is very awkward with almost no talent. marbles in his mouth. this was three years after meyers poked fun at trump at the white house dinner. this man does not forget. but it is not always trump playing defense. sometimes he comes out swinging first. like he did with the president of the united states. trump pumped new life into the whole birther movement suggesting president barack obama was not a u.s. citizen. >> i don't care if you had good marks, i would look to see place of birth. look to see what -- perhaps it is going to say. hawaii. perhaps it is going to say kenya. >> reporter: the president though hit back at the 2011 white house correspondents dinner.
>> donald trump is here tonight. now i know that he has taken some flak lately. but no one is happier, no one is prouder to put this birth certificate matter to rest than the donald. and that's because he can finally get back to focusing on his the issues that matter -- like did we fake the moon landing? what really happened in roswell? and where are biggy and tupac? >> reporter: trump's controversial birther views got him in trouble with the singer ch like many others wanted the department store macy's to stop doing business with trump. cher ranted racist crtin who would lie like his rug to get cheap press. i can't believe macy's thinks
he's the right man to represent his name. trump, never to back down tweeted in response. cher, i don't wear a rug. it's mine. i promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries that didn't work. trump says one day he may change his tone but for now, the gloves are off. randi kaye cnn, new york. >> we'll see what happened tonight at the debate. fair to say donald trump knows what makes good television and a good fight. joining me cnn commentator, jeffrey lord, and van jenzones who served in the obama administration. i guess, jeff the big question is does trump go on the attack repeat some of the things he has said about jeb bush and rick perry not on the stage and others? >> well the message, and that clip that we just saw there. what's the central message of that? it is that donald trump fights. and he fights back. that's the core of all of this. so in some respect tonight, he will fight.
i think that's why people respond to him. because if they think of him as a president dealing with vladamir putin or dealing with et cetera they want his phrase is "make america great again." they want a president that will fight and stand up. so when they see something like that they see some body who is fearless. >> right. i guess, van, the concern for other candidates on the stage with him is if they can't go toe to toe against donald trump, well then how can they deal with vladamir putin and others? >> exactly. i think actually the real drama is for the other candidates. you already know that even if donald trump starts off nice and tries to be you know polite at some point he is going to get frustrated going to say something belligerent. it's just a part of his nature part of his persona. the question is -- who can stand up to the bully? that's the real question here. who can say, listen hold on a second. you came here. you are not prepared. you came here to be a bully. i'm not scared of vladamir putin, not afraid of you.
if you are going to become president of the united states you have to conduct yourself in a different way. somebody has got to be the person who stands up and is a grown up and says you can't be this kind of a guy. and represent our party, represent our country. to the extent you see people afraid to do that i don't, i am just going to talk about my policy points. i want to say something about iran. pretend this guy is not even here. i think you actually are in more danger being afraid to confront the bully than if you confront him and he punches back. at least you stood up to him. >> jeff on the logistical basis. with all the people on stage by debate rules, if you attack somebody that person gets a 30 second response. you could end up ping-ponging back and forth. candidates complain i didn't get enough time. well it is because two candidates have chosen to attack each other. as a moderator you have to allow response and response. >> right. i think they need to be careful about that. because he will fight back. and then you are fighting back
about, whatever has just been said. as opposed to policy and all that sort of thing. you do want to be careful about that. but again, the message here is he is willing to fight. and these guys, these other folks rfolk s are going to have to show they're not just "politicians" here. they're willing -- van talks about being a bully. the other side of that coin is a lot of americans see these politicians as just politicians, and they're gutless and they won't stand up et cetera. that's the kind of thing that works to donald's advantage. >> van, look, a lot of democrats think donald trump is somehow great for them. somehow hurting the other republicans. that they's it is a great show. and that you know when push comes to shove, he doesn't really know the issues. the reality is though you are going to hear certainly, a lot hillary clinton coming under attack tonight. no doubt about that. and there is going to be a huge audience for this. isn't there a, a concern or a
fear that for democartcarat democrats that they underestimate his potential? >> absolutely. absolutely. actually i was part of the group saying this guy is a soap bubble. he is a snowflake, he will be done. i was 100% wrong. i think democrats have to look at this as a double threat. first of all he is he is bringing the debate to a place where certainly hillary clinton doesn't perform well. if he can just turn this whole contest to being about personality and authenticity and entertainment value, that hurts democrats as much as republicans. number one. then number two, you know you could wind up in a situation where a lot of people who don't ordinarily participate start to participate because they feel like this guy is interesting. he is entertaining. i think democrats have overplayed our hand in saying hey, great, more more more. i think it's bad for democracy to have somebody come up here. if tonight donald trump cannot literally answer a single
question coherently. as he has not through any interviews and gets away with it. that's bad for democrats and republicans. heap just lowered the standard for american politics. >> van, we will see. jeffrey lord. thank you. minutes away from the debate. we'll be on from 11:00 to 1:00 a.m. join us for the full analysis. if you missed part of the debate. running out getting more popcorn. we will be replaying the key moments over the course of the two hours. from 11:00 to 1:00 a.m. up next the pentagon suspects russia is behind the cyberattack on an e-mail server used by the joint chiefs of staff. this is unbelievable. we have late details. >> malaysia saying more airplane parts have now washed ashore on reunion island. investigators aren't so sure. we'll check the facts. that's where at&t can help. at&t has the tools and the network you need to make working as one easier than ever.
breaking news pentagon officials now believe russia's the prime suspect behind a cyberattack on an e-mail system used by joint chiefs. barbara starr at the pentagon with more. what are your sources telling you? >> anderson here at the pentagon they believe the leading theory is the russians were behind this cyberattack into the pentagon. it was an unclassified e-mail system that got the intrusion two weeks ago.
they have been trying to clean it up ever since then. they immediately took it offline. they're trying to rebuild it. why do they say they think it's the russians? a very sophisticated spearfishing attack. very still thee. very difficult to detect. not the kind of thing the chinese typically do. they are more into draining data out of the system. this appeared to be very malicious but so sophisticated that they believe it was the russians. and they went after an e-mail system of about 4,000 users that work for the joint staff. even the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. you know unclassified system. the belief they were targeting the system. message from moscow just maybe the pentagon is pretty unhappy about the whole thing. >> they're saying it is from the russians. do they believe it is the same group that hacked the white house and the state department last year? >> well that is in fact what they are looking at. is it possible it was the same
group? in fact earlier this year even the pentagon had another intrusion into a different unclassified system that they believe was the russians. this one, the reason this one is slightly different. they tell us it was -- a level of sophistication that they had not seen before. they had not seen it in any of those other attacks. and they have really been struggling to put it all back together. get it back up on line and get it running. >> barbara, thank you. >> a conclusion tonight in the search for malaysia airlines flight 370. the malaysian government is saying additional airport parts have washed ashore on reunion island including pieces of a window seat cushions as well. investigators are saying none of the debris appears to have come from an aircraft. malaysia has already said the part of a wing that was found was definitely from mh370. investigators have not announced their conclusion. andrew stevens joins us now from malaysia's capital, kuala lumpur. andrew the new plane parts.
what more have you learned about them? >> what we know at this stage, anderson is that officials at the malaysian transport department the ministry there, are telling us very clearly that hey have found debris and they say it is related to an aircraft. they're not saying it is related to mh370, very clearly to an aircraft. seat cushion is what they're talking about. aluminum material. and parts of a window. that is the only details they are giving out at the moment. now this surfaced from a briefing of local media. and we checked with the ministry itself and they told us these are the parts. they had been they're on their way. we don't know they've have arrived in france. but they're on their way to france for further investigation. we also critically don't know when this debris was found. but there is confusion. others are saying there is no new debris. we are going to be talking to the transport minister himself soon to find out exactly what they have found. >> andrew officials in malaysia are saying they want to expand the search area. is that going to happen? >> if the sound like there would
be some resistance if the malaysians are keen to expand this search area. australia its leading that underwater search. in the deep southern indian ocean. and they think they are in the right area. that all of the, the drift modeling, the oceanic drift modeling goes to show that where they're looking is consistent with where that flaperon was found. it is also anderson an expensive business. the australians are footing the majority of the bill $100 million. malaysians are paying out. malaysian says they want to talk to the australians, the chinese who had most nationals on the flight. the australians are not giving any indication. remember this search is going to end next year after about 120,000 square kilometers have been searched. at this stage, the australians are saying after the search is finished that will be the end of the underwater ser. in the area. >> andrew appreciate the update. thank you. after the fox news debate tonight. join us on the air from 11:00
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