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the u.s. with tremendous muscle. newsroom starts now. hello again and thank you so much for joining me. recovery efforts for a passenger plane that crashed in indonesia today have been suspended for the night. transportation officials say the wreckage has been found in a mountainous area in pa wa province. confirmation that the plane was found came shortly after villagers reported seeing the aircraft crash into the mountain. the search for the plane has been suspended until daybreak because of thunderstorms in the area. kathie, we're what an hour or so away from daybreak or perhaps when they'll get back out there. what are they up against? >> reporter: well, yeah, it's about that amount of time now. they're sending out six aircraft
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we're told that will be combing an area of 900 square nautical miles around the area where these villagers reported the plane has gone. the search and rescue officials will be working on the assumption that the plane has indeed crashed looking for debris and burning wood. what the villagers were not able to tell officials is if there were any sign of survivors. that will be on the foremost of people's minds, certainly the families of the people on board. >> oh, my goodness. so what are the obstacles. we are talking about a mountainous region. what kind of equipment do they have to conduct these searches or even carry out recovery efforts? >> reporter: very mountainous region. we're told about 12,000 feet above sea level. very rugged terrain. it's small aircraft that usually
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operate in this area. that's the very reason that people take these internal flights between cities because it is often so impassable. a lot of areas you just can't get to by road. so a lot of these small aircraft will operate in these areas. some planes have gone down in the past and the wreckage has never been found. we know there are six aircraft that are going to be sent out and hoping they can find any sign of this aircraft. >> all right. thank you so much. now to the intense battle raging in the northwest. firefighters are trying to beat back a series of wildfires in three states. residents in idaho, washington state and california have been forced to evacuate and at least 50 homes in idaho alone have now been destroyed. cnn's nick valencia with me with more on all of this. this is a tough blaze for all of these states to battle. >> pacific northwest, especially
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hard hit. evacuations are just really a lot of evacuations. 1,500 people in washington state. also the acreage is growing. just yesterday, idaho, the fire there they're trying to contain, 265,000 acres. today, more than 20,000 acres more burned. against a majestic mountainous backdrop, the flames range, forcing evacuations. >> i was literally outrunning flames at 60 miles per hour. that whole ridge was on fire. this whole hillside was on fire last night. it was nuts. >> matthew anderson watched as dozens of fires swallowed the hillside. at least 100 structures have burned. power is knocked out for most of the 9,000 residents in the area. >> there's i don't know how many hundreds of people affected
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here, the other side. >> just to the south, in canyon creek, oregon, a lightning fire has left more than 20 homes burned with at least 34,000 acres lost and still limited containment. dean fox says the fight to save what's left has been exhausting. >> we have to keep hosing ourself down because it was so hot. >> this fire season has been devastating, especially in the west where already more than 6.5 million acres have burned. that's about the size of new hampshire. >> it's just devastation for these people. >> idaho has been among the hardest hit. this ranch otherwise of boise, charred and caked from ash from the soda fire. containment is just at 25%. >> ripping up this hillside. >> in drought-stricken california, the fires are out of control. fueled by high heat and wind,
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the cabin fire has devoured 1,400 acres. hundreds of firefighters have worked for days to stop it, ten of them have been injured in the process. >> and it could be a very tough week ahead, especially in california and washington. it's supposed to be especially hot in that washington area. of course the last four years in california, the drought has contributed to what we're now seeing there. >> how strapped are resources? >> we're talking 700 firefighters and they're bringing in all throughout the state. so they are very strapped for resources. great point. >> thanks so much. we're going to talk more about this. laura roose is with us. her family escaped the wildfire in washington. your parents' home was actually destroyed. tell us what happened and how your family was able to get out? >> well, it started in the morning. we watched it and then the wind changed in the afternoon.
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and we had our vehicles packed. and the firefighters came. and we had to leave. the fire came down the canyon, both sides of the canyon, up and around. and we waited you know five minutes longer, we probably would have not gotten out. it would have covered the road getting out. >> in some cases there were lightning strikes that sparked some of the fires. is that your understanding about what happened in the area of your family home? >> yes. multiple lightning strikes all over the cheyenne area. >> oh, my goodness. it seemed to move very quickly. thank goodness you were able to get out with your lives. you mentioned you were all gathering things and firefighters came and said it's time to get out. is there an estimate you could give me on how quickly this fire seemed to be fueled and make its way to your home?
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>> oh, the winds were kicking up 35, 40 miles per hour. we saw it come down the canyon and we said, oh, got to go, got to go. by the time we each got into our car, my dad is a stroke survivor. we had to escort him into his car. he did not want to leave the house. he was too confused. we said, time to go, dad. firemen all came down and physically put him in his car. by the time we drove down the road, it -- it was in the pasture, in the yard, it was all over and that was it. the whole place is basically melted. >> that had to be so frightening as you were driving out and seeing the flames licking at your property. what did that feel like? how -- you know, how in danger, how fearful did you feel? >> oh, it was like no other feeling that you ever have. i mean, it's a fight for your
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life. you know, and at that point, you just want to save your life. and material possessions are just -- just material possessions. and now it's just like a moon scape. all the trees, every tree is just nothing but black. everything melted. all the metal just melted. everything is gone. it's -- it's -- there are no words to describe the fear because you can feel the heat and the wind. and the flames, it's -- the flames were just like all over. and you're just driving down the road and you look back in the rear-view mirror and where you just got done driving is in flames. >> incredible. i'm so glad you and the family got out safely. so sorry for your material losses. thank you so much for joining us. our hopes and prayers for you
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north korea is threatening to attack the u.s. with quote, tremendous muscle, unless it cancels joint military exercises with south korea. they are scheduled to begin thundersto tomorrow. the u.s. state department says it is aimed at improving south korea's readiness. joining me now is north korean expert. good to see you again. after a recent trip that you mentioned to north korea, you say the regime is even more dangerous than ever before. why is that? >> because kim jong-un is
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leader. domestically, he's in the process of solidifying his power. it's important for him to show his followers his resolve and should maintain credibility. so he cannot issue all these so-called empty provocative remarks and so on. so at this time, i feel it's a little more dangerous and more uncertain. especially given his youthful age. >> so you are underscoring there's been a pattern of provocative kind of remarks and threats, but then thankfully nothing severe has happened. what would be that moment, what would be the impetus in your view as to why he would carry through with his threats? >> because he's still not very solidified in terms of his power base. he's in the process of that.
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so it's very important for him to gather his followers and make sure they are absolutely loyal to him. for that, it is so important for him to maintain credibility among the militaries especially on his side. so this is domestic climate the country has changed tremendously. we have to pay attention to that. >> so what would, in your view, would kim jong-un feel that he would gain if he were to carry out any of the threats? because it's a country already in isolation and carrying through with a threat against the u.s. or neighbor of japan would get him what? >> it's not really historical c -- his calculation. he feels he has nothing more to lose. all the sanctions that we can consider have been applied.
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and he thinks, you know, almost suicide kind of mentality running there, him and among his followers. so those people who have some different pragmatic ideas, they're not speaking out, they're not going to do anything underground or anything. there is no such thing as underground in north korean politics. so this time, we have to pay attention. put our resources, our wisdom together. analyze it psychologically the north korean inclinations. it's not unlikely that north korea may be more provocative in the next few days. >> professor, thank you so much, appreciate your point of view. >> thank you. all right, still ahead, hillary clinton spending time in martha's vineyard with president
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obama. jim acosta joining us live there. >> reporter: hi, that's right. they spent a bit of time last night here on martha's vineyard. the real attraction here was president obama out on the golf course with former president bill clinton. do you think they talked about hillary clinton's campaign for president? we'll be talking about that? just a few moments. right. 100% real milk, just without the lactose. so, no discomfort? exactly. try some... mmm, it is real milk. lactaid®. 100% real milk. no discomfort. no articolors,flavors, sweeteners, preservatives, and no artificial smiles. because clean dressings, taste better. panera. food as it should be.
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president barack obama took some time out for golf with some high-profile guests this weekend. president bill clinton dropped by martha's vineyard where the obama family is vacationing. hillary joins them last night. so what are those conversations like? joining me right now is jim acos acosta. are they spilling the beans? are they telling you anything about what they're chatting about on the greens? >> reporter: they're keeping those conversations as secret as their golf scores. that's right. here in martha's vineyard. no leaks at this point from the links. i think you have to expect that president clinton and president obama were talking politics, were talking a little shop out on the golf course yesterday. we have no confirmation of that. that i have had these rare opportunities over the last several years to have these conversations from time to time.
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hillary clinton did drop in late yesterday for a party last night here on martha's vineyard. that was a big affair here on the island. vernon jordan turned 80 years old. hillary clinton was there. valley jarrett was there. there was a whole slew of people inside from obama world and clinton world there. you know, this is a very different dynamic inside these two worlds when you compare to what we saw last year. last year, hillary clinton gave that interview to the atlantic magazine when she criticized some of the president's foreign policy when the president and his foreign policy team used to use the phrase "don't do stupid stuff" talking about not getting involved in middle eastern wars. that was taken as some criticism. they had to hug it out at that jordan party a year ago. you don't really sense any overt
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tension between these two camps right now. there are so many obama people working inside hillary clinton's campaign right now, it's almost as if she is inheriting the obama mantle going into this campaign. there are people inside the white house who say that hillary clinton is seen as somebody who will expand and protect president obama's legacy. i imagine there were some conversations swirling about all of those topics. but no -- no leaks from the golf course or from the dinner last night on any of that. >> to be a fly on the wall huh? >> reporter: that's right. >> maybe next time they'll allow you. you ask and you never know. >> well, as hillary clinton is on the vineyard, the chatter is ramping up over whether joe biden will also jump into the race. the south carolina post and courier in fact stepped up the pressure with an editorial
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encouraging biden to run saying, run joe biden, run. wow. and biden's advisors are telling him he needs to make a decision by october 1st. so what's it going to be? joining me is political strategist brian morgan stesh. good to see you again. okay. well, subtle, the post and courier is not. brian, do you think this is something that joe biden is seriously considering? you know that maybe he might meet an october 1st deadline and i wonder what that conversation was like on the golf course between the clintons and obama. >> it's hard to believe it didn't come up, right? it must have. regard -- first of all, i think that joe biden is obviously very interested. this is a guy who's wanted to be president for many, many decades. the october 1st deadline is for among other reasons, fundraising
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and organizationally, and being able to get on the ballot. it takes forever. it's very expensive. he can't dither forever. he's going to have to do it fairly soon in order to be on ballots. >> oh, my gosh, you just heard jim acosta where he said a number of people working for the obama campaign are now working for hillary clinton. speak to the whole loyalty conflict if joe biden were to jump in. i would imagine a lot of folks from the obama white house may be wanting to work for joe biden. >> up until now, that was the only viable place for obama staffers to go. if uncle joe is jumping in, that changes a lot of things. jim made another point. there really is a clinton world and an obama world and the relationships between the two
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principles, very complicated. obama certainly prepared to support hillary for president. if joe were running, he might be a better carrier of that legacy. >> haven't we heard out loud obama throwing his support behind hillary clinton for president? >> we assume if she's the one. >> i think that kind of deafening silence, this is just me now trying to play political analyst. it makes me wonder if whether he too is waiting for a joe biden then he will be torn, who does he best support. >> well, it's an interesting question. to the point of whether obama sort of really, you know, gotten behind hillary, he did do that sort of, you know, really softball interview with her when she was leaving her position as secretary of state. he said things like i know she would make a great candidate. you're right in that the
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endorsement hasn't been full-throated. a month or two months is a lifetime in politics. look at what she's facing right now. an fbi investigation, tremendous trust gap in her poll numbers. a gap in really the number of people who think that she cares about people like them. remember, president obama won largely because he was really great in that category you know in sort of identifying with voters on a personal level. she's not so great at that. guess who's better at that than her? joe biden. few people are better at that than anybody than joe biden. >> the corpse is not exactly cold yet. she's still 30 points ahead in most of the polls. >> oh, my gosh. >> she was 30 points up in the polls against barack obama in october. we're only in august. in october last time around she was 30 points up and still lost. it is an open field if he wants to get in there. >> we talked about the post and
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courier not being that subtle. this is what they said in the op- op-ed, democrats who want to keep the white house aren't just worried about mrs. clinton's ability to do so. they see no electable alternative despite the big crowds flocking to see senator sanders. the paper is going deep, is it not, you know, ellis, in trying to analyze the landscape and the real viability of the democratic field? >> well, i think we know who one endorsement in the south carolina primary will go toward if it comes to that. you got to think about the hardball political calculations here. black voters, lgbt voters, those might be the core. the real core is democrats who still love obama. and there's a lot of them. if they look at joe biden and say he's a better messenger than hillary is, the guy's got a
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pretty good running start, i think. >> we'll leave it there. thanks so much guys. always lots of fun. >> good to see you. and more seriously, parts of a plane that went missing in indonesia have been found. but the recovery search has been suspended. we'll tell you why next. there are two cages in this room. the one on your right is made out of high strength steel and the other is made of aluminum. now i'm gonna release a 700 pound grizzly bear. so pick a cage and get in it. well i'm glad i picked this cage. why did you pick the steel cage? that's a big animal right there. you want to see something else made with high strength steel? that's the chevy silverado. made with high strength steel for high strength dependability. that's beautiful. look at the size of his head.
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all right. welcome back. recovery efforts for a passenger plane that crashed in indonesia today have been suspended for the night. transportation officials say the wreckage has been found in papua province. confirmation that the plane was found came shortly after villagers reported seeing the aircraft crash into a mountain. the search for the plane has been suspended until daybreak because of thunderstorms in the area. joining me right now is richard quest and cnn aviation analyst
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les abend. the search has been suspended mostly because of bad weather and because it's night fall. there are no reports of fire or smoke from the wreckage. do you believe that, you know, the lack of those kinds of signs should point them in a certain direction about what may have happened to that plane? >> it's a good question, but it's really too early to tell. witness testimony is often very speculative in nature and can be very skreetchy. that's the worst part of the investigation to be involved with witnesses and what they saw. if indeed there was smoke and fire or the absence thereof, all it could necessarily mean is there was a limited amount of fuel on board the aircraft. and we're dealing with very
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mountainous terrain. foilage may have hid some of the smolderi smoldering. at this point, we don't know the airplane has crashed, we'll just assume that. at this point, it's way too early to say what we might be finding. >> villagers reported they said they actually saw it crash. richard, i wonder, there are a couple of different investigations going on here, right? they have to investigate whether it indeed did crash into a mountain. but they're also very concerned if there are any survivors, if there are people to rescue, they've got to get to them. how do they prioritize these issues? >> it's very simple. it's a different between an annex 12 and an annex 13 investigation. annex 13 is the investigation that looks at what happened and how to prevent it from happening
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again. whereas number 12 looks at making sure you get to the people. there's rules about getting to the rescue scene to see if there's anybody still alive. it's a different between search and rescue which is what they are doing at the moment, versus search and recovery where you're looking to recover the remains and the wreckage. at the moment the priority without any shadow of doubt is first of all to see are there any survivors. only after you can be pretty certain there are not do you move to the next stage which is the retrieve l of the black boxes. >> when you hear some of the numbers, that the plane was 27 years old, that the airline itself has had a number of incidents over a fairly short period of time, since 1992, does any of that strike you as particularly significant when you talk about a plane that's missing? >> well, the incidents that richard had gone over, that's very troubling to me.
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that says something that there's a training issue, pilots are not -- don't have enough experience. that is very troubling to me. the fact that the airplane's 27 years old, listen, if they maintain an airplane appropriately, we in the states, we have a thing called progressive maintenance. i have a general aviation airplane built in 1973. it's still very airworthy airplane. 27 years doesn't really set it back. what it says to me, though, about this particular airline, and richard and i were doing some research together on this, they are older airplanes. it says they that purchased them probably at a good price. they lease them at a good price. they are operating older equipment. in aviation terms, it's almost like dog years. >> all right. thanks so much, gentlemen, appreciate it. coming up, a marriage showdown in kentucky where a court clerk is refusing to give
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saying issuing a same-sex marriage license violates her first amendment right. >> reporter: when the supreme court declared marriage a constitutional right regardless of sexual orientation, thousands of same-sex marriage couples rujed to their local court offices to get married. >> these people are cruel to do this to us. >> reporter: but that isn't the case for everyone. david moore and david ermald are still waiting to be wed. >> we're still not issuing marriage licenses. >> reporter: they were turned away from the clerk's office run by kim davis. after ignoring direct orders from kentucky's governor and a federal judge to issue licenses to same-sex couples, davis stopped issuing rights to anyone, gay or straight. and is suing the governor claiming her first amendment rights are being denied. >> this is a bigger battle. >> reporter: davis is alone.
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13 of alabama's 67 counties have stopped issuing marriage licenses all together. which means the next stage of this battle is the courtroom. across the country, same-sex couples have filed lawsuits because they believe their rights were denied. in gran bury, texas, jim and joe were initially denied a license by hood county clerk katy lang. that lawsuit is pending. and while obtaining a marriage license for the vast majority of gay couples is now not a problem, these few lingering battled sprinkled throughout the country could have a lasting impact. >> ryan nobles, thank you for that report. and we'll be right back right after this. power kale chicken caesar salad is rivaled only, by the goodness felt while eating one.
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not honda. not ford or any other brand. subaru eyesight. an extra set of eyes, every time you drive. in the film industry, there are very few people of color. i think people feel shut out. as an editor for over 40 years, picks up the pace, making it more exciting. i thought, i'm going to help the people who need the help the most. >> growing up, i loved film and television, but my childhood was mostly taking care of my dad. he was pretty ill. i really didn't have like the opportunities to pursue my
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dreams. >> you always say yes, yes to everything. >> we bring in industry professionals to teach low income minority youth how to make films. >> and action. >> the training we provide is hands on. >> once a camera is set, you want to shoot everything that you possibly can from that angle. >> screen writing, directing, camera, editing, producing, casting. it's necessary they learn all these films. students who graduate find jobs through contacts with studio personnel. >> i can't even imagine where i'd be without the program. words can't say much about how much appreciation i have. when my dad passed away, like he's given me good advice. >> we're looking for a more
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diverse future for our students in hollywood. and they're achieving that. all right. the final protection against terror in the air. armed federal air marshals are trained to react at a moment's notice. a cnn investigation has uncovered evidence the air marshal may be sleep deprived, medicated, under the influence of alcohol, or worse, suicidal. here's drew griffin. >> reporter: on july 31st, 2013, a federal air marshal stepped outside this syracuse, new york, hotel, put his service pistol to his head and pulled the trigger. the suicide committed within hours of the armed air marshal's next scheduled mission to fly on a commercial u.s. air flight from syracuse, new york, to
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washington d.c. since 2002, cnn has learned ten federal air marshals have committed suicide. several more have died in questionable accidents. and some armed federal air marshals, sleep deprived and mentally exhausted, are breaking down on assignments turning to medications and alcohol. >> would sitting on a plane want a stressed out federal air marshal, potentially suicidal air marshal on that plane with me? >> you would not. >> a recently retired federal air marshal says that threat is just the beginning. on board a federal aircraft, they must respond at a moment's notice to any threat. right now, she says, some air marshals are falling apart. >> they're exhausted. they're having memory loss. they're being forgetful. they can't move. they can't respond fast to things. and the agency was not prepared
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for someone to document as well as harvard did in their study. >> reporter: this is that study. it's from 2012. tsa commissioned it, got the results, and had it classified as sensitive security information. cnn obtained a copy of the report and the results are disturbing. 75% of air marshals flying on domestic missions were sleep deficient. on international runs, the figure rose to more than 84%. in a job where it's critical to be alert and accurate, the study finds the acute and chronic lack of sleep degrades a federal air marshal's ability to react and think quickly. the study conducted by the division of sleep medicine in harvard medical school found half of federal air marshals take some medication or supplement to get to sleep. others commented they turn to alcohol. federal air marshals responded
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to survey questions saying, most of the sleep patterns i have are broken. this is not healthy. i need to take sleep aids. alcoholic drinks mixed with sleeping pills. one air marshal in response to a question asking if he consumed five or six drinks per week said, eight to 12 per night on an overnighter. the study says it is likely a significant proportion of air marshals suffer from undiagnosed sleep disorders and puts them at increased risk of self-injury, higher rates of fatigue motor vehicle accidents and greater incidence of error. our interview request was turned down. instead, the tsa issued this statement saying it is committed to providing air marshals with the resources and support they and any loss of life is
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unacceptable. the statement goes onto say that the air marshal service maintains a robust system of both medical including mandatory physicals and psychological assistance programs red readily available to the workforce and their families. >> the director said his officers helped with on board medical emergencies and unruly passengers, but nothing about stopping a terrorist. the air marshals tell us they are misused insisting the idea of putting terror cops was on planes was a knee-jerk reaction after 9/11 and has proven to be a poor use of their time and americans' tax dollars. thanks so much for spending your day with me. the next hour of the newsroom begins right now with poppy harlow. hi, everyone.
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5:00 eastern, 2:00 pacific this sunday. we begin with what appears to be a tragedy overseas. search efforts will resume this hour for commercial airliner that crashed in the mountains. 54 people were on board. and it happened this morning on an island in the indonesian province of papua. villagers say they saw the plane hit the side of a mountain. it was a twin engine turbo prop on a short flight. the wreckage is believed to be deep in remote mountainous terrain with peaks reaching as high as 13,000 feet. kathie novak is tracking this for us. when i woke up to the news this morning, i thought, another incident in this region. this is at least the third commercial airplane to go missing in asia in the past 18 months. what's the airline saying? >> reporter: well, this airline is one of dozens out of

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