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allies in the south. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." donald trump today answered a call for jury duty today, a day after he called for -- by saying all undocumented immigrants must go home along with their children born in the united states. and he would send u.s. troops back into iraq. the latest poll puts trump far out in front. and new disarray for democrats, as intelligence officials are now calling for further scrutiny of hundreds of e-mails sent from hillary clinton's private server and supporters of joe biden now encouraging him to run for the top spot. i'll speak with one of the donald trump's rivals senator
lindsey graham and our correspondents analysts and guests who are standing by with full coverage of today's top stories. let's begins with jeff selenzeleny. he got specific. >> it's the first policy proposal we have seen and not surprisingly it was on immigration, one of the key issues that created his first controversy after he jumped into the race. he went further than many rivals say all illegal immigrants should be deposited, including young people who came in as children. this is a provision in the 14th amendment which originally allowed freed african-american slaves to become citizens after the civil war and said mexico would pay for a wall increasing fees on border crossing guards and increasing fees on nafta working visas and other things.
he also called for tripling the number of immigration officers and for eliminating federal grants to so-called sanctuary city that is don't cooperate with federal law enforcement, wolf. >> as you know jeff something that's gained a lot of attention since he released this program, his approach to what's called birth birth rite citizenship. >> you're going to split up family? >> no no we're going to keep the families together. they have to go. >> but they have no place to go. >> we will work with them. they have to go. either we have a country or we don't have a country. >> as you know the 14th amendment to the constitution jeff starts with these words. all persons born or naturalized in the united states subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the united states in a state wherein they reside. so he's basically suggesting
these kids even if born in the united states would not automatically be u.s. citizens. this would require a constitutional amendment to revise them. >> it would, wolf. the reality is no matter how intense this controversy is in this country, it is simply not that realistic. it would take a vote of two thirds of both of house and senate as well as ratification of two thirds of state legislatures, so very unlikely anything like that would happen especially given the high immigrant population in big states. this is not sitting well with many republican rivals. we just heard jeb bush address what he thinking of donald trump's plan. >> i appreciate the fact that mr. trump now has a plan if that's what it's called but i think the better approach is to deal with the 11 million people here illegally in a way that is realistic and to have more security that is done in the right way to lessen the number of people crossing our border.
>> but there's no question that donald trump's plan here will get some traction on the right. that will play out throughout the next six months in the first phase of this presidential campaign. >> jeff zeleny thank you. donald trump may have the outlines of an immigration plan but he's still shooting from the hip in the case of the war against isis. he favors troops on the ground against, taking over oil fields controlled by isis. barbara starr has a reality check on his vision. what are you seeing? >> good evening, if donald trump's plan works, take over the oil from isis and iraq he says he wants to take that money and give it to families of the fallen and the wounded. it's just not exactly clear yet how all of that would work. if he becomes xharchder in chief, donald trump has new details on his plan for dealing with isis. >> isis is taking over a lot of
the oil in certainly areas of iraq. i say you take away their wealth knock the hell out of the oil, we take over the oil. >> on "meet the press quest he was adamant how he would do it. >> so you're talking ground troops? >>. >> we can circle it. >> reporter: enchts. >> a critic sis -- >> you just don't go into another nation and steal their wealth which is exactly what he's suggesting we do. >> the top retired army general had issue as well. when you hear him saying we should move in with our troops and take their oil and bomb the iraqi oil fields does anything like that even remotely have military utility? >> see, there's elements to military power, and so we can have an outcome, but again, the problem we've had -- do we achieve sustainable outcome?
it's about sustainable outcome so you disagree? >> i do. i do. >> the majority of u.s. air strikes have been in syria, not iraq. isis controls about 10% of iraq's oil fields. how much money would a president trump get? in 2014 iraq earned $300 million a day in revenue. now it's down to roughly $240 million a day due to falling oil prices. >> to suggest we go in and bomb the oil field and take them over it's also a violation of international lawyer. he may have a lot of lawyers in the trump corporation, but i don't think they'll get him out of the hague when he's tried for that kind much a plan. >> where does trump get his military advice? >> well, i watch the shows. >> now, this is not the first time of course that donald trump has caused a stir about his comments connected to
the u.s. military. he hayes repeatedly said he believes the obama administration does not support veterans enough and of course he caused a lot of controversy several weeks ago with his comments that john mccain, a vietnam p.o.w. u.s. senator from arizona, was not a war hero. so still a lot of controversy, but one thin isn't in dispute, he's at the top of republican list of candidates. >> at least right now. he clearly is the front-runner among the republicans. barbara, thank you. on the democratic side the front-runner hillary clinton's private e-mail serving is now in the hands of the u.s. justice department and some of 3 hubz-plus of her messages have been set aside for special scrutiny. that's making some in the democratic party nervous, and fans of joe biden are urging him to run for the nomination but that's making democrats nervous, too. let's go to jim acosta.
what are you hearing about a possible biden run, jim? >> by all can see, all of this chaser is picking up steam. but a well placed source tell cnn even though the vice president is a beloved figure there is little enthusiasm for a biden candidacy in the west win. so far a movement is gaining momentum collecting some 200,000 signatures the vice president himself fueling speculation. but wolf a well placed democratic source tells me there are concerns at the white house that a biden candidacy would end badly damages his reputation as a elder statesman. now, one reason why top democratic sources inside the white house, outside the white house say clinton remains for
expanding president obama's legacy but there's also deep affection for the vice president, where it's clear that officials are giving him time to grieve his son's recent death. a source familiar with the vice president's thinking says biden's decision is expected at the end of the summer but this official this tern this source close to the vice president is say late september, not august. so several more weeks to go. >> he doesn't have a whole lot of time if he wants to be serious about this effort to become the democratic presidential nominee. this weekend, as you know, hillary clinton was joking about her e-mails in iowa. i want you to listen to what she said. >> by the way, you may have seen that i recently launched a snapchat account. i love it. i love it. those messages disappear all by
themselves. >> jim, she may be joking about the whole e-mail controversy, but there is a crisis she has to endure especially with the fbi now investigating. >> that's right. when you talk to people inside the obama administration this is not a laughing matter. according to a report filed by a federal judge, officials are recommending 305 documents from hillary clinton's private e-mail server be turned over to various agencies for further review. clinton repeatedly has said he hasn't done anything wrong, but it was notable that her campaign was indicating she was well aware of the controversy. she said she's turned over that e-mail server to the justice department and accused republicans of dragging her down into the mud. but clearly this is why biden is get a hard look although one
key source i talked to said people in biden-world, even people close to the vice president would be very surprised if he jumps into the race. i talked to another strategist today who sell she'd knolls putting any money on what the vice president will do. thanks very much jim acosta. i want to bring in jeff zeleny. i've been around washington for a long time the justice department u.s. attorneys, they start calling for witnesses, maybe going before quiet secret garages, you don't know where this would wind up. >> you don't. even worse for her, it's happening during campaigns. campaigns are all about control. this adds a level of uncertainty to that.
i was out in iowa and was struck by a clear change in strategy trying to put these democratic concerns at ease. she's making some jokes about this and trying to convince democrats this is the same old partisan witch-hunt we've become so familiar with. unclear if it will work though here. she's trying to rally the base but they now have a moment with the snapchat. you can benefit as the campaign goes on it will become a twrigs ad. >> presumably one of the reasons joe biden has knotts ruled on the whether he's running. >> it is one of the reasons. >> jeff stand by. when we come back we'll speak with one republican candidate, senator lindsey graham. he's got a lot going on. we'll join him, when we come back.
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thanks very much, senator, for joining us. >> thank you. i quickly want your thoughts on the e-mail controversy right now. based on what you know do you think he potentially committed a crime? >> you know i don't want to go down that road but she's certainly not telling us the truth about the server. she said that everybody related to work was turned over to the state, but we know it has not been. she said no classified information went through the system but now we know it did. i guess this could potentially by a criminal problem. >> she said it wasn't marked classified. she's being very specific on that. >> yeah. >> now they're going back and reviews that maybe it was classified but she make the point she didn't send or receive any marked classified. >> she was secretary of state, and if people in her organization are sending classified material unmarked or
misidentified, that falls on her feet too. you can't have it both ways. you can't be in chargot be in charge. this is typical clinton, setting up a system that nobody else could, avoiding transparency whether or not it's a criminal act, i don't know but i can tell you this you're sending information through this private e-mail server that should have been classified. i blame you for not making it classified. >> i want you to listen to this. >> i've just provided my server to the justice department but here's what i won't do. i won't get down in the mud with them. i won't play politician with national security or dishonor the memory of those who we lost. i won't pretend that this is anything other than what it is the same old partisan games we've seen so many times before. >> your reaction senator. >> typical clinton, trying to
blame the person who is asking legitimate questions. let me tell you, secretary clinton, you did play party politics with national security - when you and susan rice and everybody else tried to make the american people believe that benghazi was a protest caused by hateful video. there's not one ounce of evidence coming from libya there was a protest outside the consulate. what bothers me the most about her and the obama administration is how these misled the american people after the attack how she allowed it to be a death trap. she said she didn't know about the additional security request, then i blame her. this is an effort to divert attention away from her failings. >> let me get your reaction to what -- releasing the immigration plan. among other things he wants a constitutional amendment that would take away the so-called birthrite clause which says if you're born in the united
states you're automatically a u.s. citizen. are you with him on that? >> i think it's a bad practice to give citizenship based on birth. we have evidence of people buys tourist visas for the express purpose of coming over here and having a child. i don't think that's a good idea. that's not going to happen until we fix a broke immigration sum. donald trump's eight-page plan is jibberish, unworkable. mitt romney said his biggest mistake as a candidate was embracing self-deportation. that hurt our party. this is forced deportation. it is unworkable. this idea of invading iraq and taking their oil is literally insane. >> let me get back to the birth rite issue. so you favor a constitutional amendment that would deny automatic citizenship to children born in the united states whose parents let's say are illegal immigrants? >> absolutely. after we fix the broken
immigration system that comes second not first. you might can do it statutorily, but what donald trump is not doing is embracing a workable solution to a broken immigration system we're not goings to force deport 11 million people. this is worse than self-deportation. we have two problems as republicans, and this plan is incredibly unworkable and i think it's going to hurt the republican party. we're going backwards on immigration, not forward, as a party. let's talk about what he wants to do in iraq blow up areas d. that's where they get their money. you've been to iraq probably -- a lot of times over these past several years. in the u.s. air force reserves. is that why the smart? >> isil doesn't just get money
from clandestine undergrund oil cells. donald trump is suggesting we do back to iraq take the oil away from the iraqi people and give the monday to our wounded warriors. he's suggesting a ground invasion of iraq by u.s. forces to take their oil away from them. this guy is so unfit to be commander in chief. anybody who would suggest such a thing has no idea how that sounds in the misdemeanor east. we have soldiers in the mideast right now, when somebody running for president would suggest an american military force would come into their country, take their oil away from them you're making it very dangerous for those who serve over there right now. >> as you know he's far and away the leader, that brand-new fox news poll has him at 25% are more than double digits ahead of dr. ben carson. you're near the bottom of that poll. why is he doing so well and you're not? >> well i think he's tapping
into frustration, i get that. what's going to change is when i talk about how to fix immigration, and you can't do it without democratic support, a workable solution what will sink mr. trump over time i think, is solutions to problems that are real like dealing with isil. i've never heard a military commander suggest that we go back to iraq and take the oil away from the iraqi people. he is not embracing a rational solution to destroying isil. he's talking gibberish on foreign policy and absolute lid democrat gogry on immigration. over time this will matter. we live in dangerous times. i'm ready to be commander in chief. i can't imagine any military analyst, any person who is aware of the mideast, the way it actually works, to suggest that mr. trump is is making any sense at all. >> senator graham thanks for joining us. thank you. come to iowa. >> good luck over there. coming up following a dramatic confrontation with china over manmade islands in
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carries out military exercises with allies on the korean peninsula. the barrage of threats comes days after a explosion. brian todd has more on the escalating tensions. brian, what is the latest? >> very serious tension tonight. we're talking about the demilitarized zone. both sides are engaging in psychological warfare with loud speakers blaring propaganda messages across this border and tonight the start of joint u.s./south korean military exercises has brought the threat from north koreans, which the pentagon is telling us they're closely monitoring. close to 50,000 south koreans, and u.s. military troops engaging in exercises like this. the drill is called freedom guardian bring is a threat from
kim jong-un. >> translator: if the united states wants that are main-led to be safe then the guardian should stop immediately. >> virtually threatening a nuclear attack a pentagon spokesman says they take all these threats seriously and are monitoring the situation. the north koreans make threats every year during these exercises, but this year the tension is thicker. >> what makes this year particularly different in that the tensions are heightened on both sides because of the landmine incident on the dmz. >> earlier this month kim jong-un's soldiers crossed the border in the demilitarized zone and planted landmines that nearly killed two south korean soldiers. north korea denied it. analysts say american troops could have just as easily be wounded. it'sic less nan a year since north korea actually did launch a successful attack on the u.s. the cyberstrike on sony pictures entertainment in response to the
movie "the interview." with knolls attacks and all the executions analysts worry about the decision making of the young dictator. >> they's very rash unpredictable, and he hayes very impetuous, anger management issues very quick to anger. so all these things make the situation so much more unpredictable than in the past. >> can kim strike the u.s. with a nuclear weapon? u.s. officials and weapons experts tell cnn the north koreans don't yet have the capacity to hit the u.s. with a nuclear-tipped missile. they have many warheads to fit missiles that can reach the u.s. but the north koreans haven't flight tested the missiles yet and could break up. >> may by down 10%, 20% success. are you willing to commit suicide for a 10% chance of
success in most nations would say absolutely not. >> still u.s. officials and analysts are saying they're trying to perfect that capability, and working feverishly behind the scenes. it has prompted sue terry so say she misses the father. the father she was was ruthless but predictable. >> interesting point. isn't one of the areas where the u.s. and south korea military are conducting exercises pretty close to the demilitarized zone. >> we're told one of the areas where live fire drills will be held is near po chan is. sowell is about right here. the north koreans would view that as a provocation. and it's meant to show them that they are very serious and can take the fight to them if they have to. they want to so the north koreans they mean business but
it could cause provocation, wolf. >> intense situation right now, brian. thank you. let's discuss this with cristian white. cristian thank very much to joining us. what do you make of this with these exercises going on? are they really serious? should the u.s. even be concerned? >> it does feel a bit different this time. that's the question you're always skk. after all north korea has been somewhat adequately deterred at least deterred from a general war. there is prove investigations they sank a south korea south korean but this does have a slightly different feel. they want they have their own nuclear arsenal. so it sort of leaves you to wonder if kim jong-un is seeing the world in a different manner one with more of a role of north
korean aggressive activity. >> can we infer anything special, cristian about this unusual rhetoric? >> i think he feels it enhances his position, certainly his father had relied much more on the military as opposed to balancing it with -- so having this nationalism could strengthen him with the military. he sees the world around him, it's a closed environment, not much critical thought, but he look at russia and china, and internalizing these lessons. >> thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. coming up. the u.s. is trying to manage tensions with china after a showdown over manmade islands this year. why is the obama administration issuing a new warning to the chinese government about spies
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look at this brown color, indicates very, very dry air sinking in for especially oregon and northern california. that's going to stick around. that allows very dry grass and trees to become even drier, and allows they fires to spark up even faster and travel more quickly. look at this. the wind is also going to stick around. it can cause the fires to travel very far. you take those tiny embers. they can travel with the winds for a couple hundred yards, and all of a sudden another fire sparked. so we'll continue to see the windy conditions we'll see the heat play a role especially in the pacific northwest, and along the california coast, so very warm temperatures windy conditions and the lack of rainfall. the fire danger will stay elevated at least for the short term. we don't see any relief in sight, at least for another week. let me show you on the ground where all of these fires are, we are looking at above normal
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the obama administration is delivering a stark new warning to the government of china about the activities of chinese spies operating here inside the united states. american officials say the agents are part of a chinese effort to try to stamp out corruption by returning fugitives from avenue broad. let's go to our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto for the latest source of tension between the u.s. and china. what's the latest? >> that's right, wolf. there is a long list. u.s. officials confirm to me
that american diplomats have warned their chinese counterparts that china stop this practice. they note that the u.s. and china do have a bilateral legal cooperation agreement. but that requires cooperation between the justice department here chinese officials, law enforcement officials there, them operating on their own on u.s. soil not only unacceptable in the words of u.s. officials but criminal. today u.s.officials madeclear china posting foreign law enforcement agents on u.s. soil is prohibited and criminal. >> foreign law enforcement agents are not permitted to operate within the united states without prior notification to the attorney general. and it's a criminal offense under u.s. law. >> reporter: as first reported by the "new york times" the chinese government has deployed spies inside the u.s. to influence chinese nationals to return home and face justice. hundreds of senior officials have already been arrested and charged inside china. right up to the highest level of the chinese leadership.
and though many have fled to countries like the u.s. with their families and their money, china's broad anti-corruption drive is now extending the hunt to u.s. soil. the chinese government chinese intelligence has been doing this for years. they primarily use commercial cover. they use students here. they've been spying on the united states for decades. they're very good at it. >> reporter: this is just the latest case of china aggressively pushing its influence far beyond its borders. china has been building and militarizing islands in the south china sea. 600 miles from its shores. and in waters the u.s. considers international territory. leading to tense confrontations in the sky which we experienced firsthand aboard a u.s. surveillance aircraft in may. >> this is the chinese navy. please go away quickly. >> reporter: u.s. officials have all but publicly blamed china for the massive hack of the office of personnel management
one of the worst ever against the u.s. government. hackers obtained personal data of more than 20 million current, former and prospective federal employees. >> they're just getting much more aggressive. they're stealing more secrets. they're very difficult to catch. >> reporter: and just last week the chinese government devalued its currency to boost its economy, a move that has rattled financial markets and undermined u.s. exports. all of this as president obama prepares to roll out the red carpet next month for the first official state visit by china's new president xi jinping. u.s. officials say they have cooperated with chinese law enforcement before that that cooperation which includes sharing evidence has even resulted in indictments by the u.s. justice department against corrupt chinese officials. but that's with u.s. law enforcement involved wolf. this is a very difficult case. u.s. officials saying in effect the chinese operating freelance here on their own. one of many issues between these two countries. it's going to be very interesting and difficult summit
between the u.s. president and the chinese president next month. >> state visit. obviously very very important. jim, thank you. we're back with our cnn counterterrorism analyst, the former cia official phil mudd. our law enforcement analyst, former fbi assistant, director tom fuentes. what are the chinese thinking when they send people over trying to intimidate chinese people who are living in the united states to go back home? >> they've been doing this for 50 years. this is just common practice for them. >> you knew about this when you were working at the fbi? >> well yes. not going to discuss it in any great detail but this has been common knowledge in the government for many, many years. >> the "new york times" reporting they're threatening these people who are living in the united states if you don't come home you have relatives back in china, we're going to deal with those relatives? >> i won't talk about the details but say that chinese espionage in the u.s. has been big business for many years, as has u.s. espionage in china -- >> u.s. spies in china, chinese spies in the united states
everybody knows that. people coming here to threaten chinese residents of the united states and trying to force them to go back that sounds relatively recent. >> right, the problem with it is that it's hard to tell exactly who sent them here. are they part of the ministry of public security? which are the police. ministry of state security? which is their intelligence arm. or the military? it's hard to tell exactly who's behind this and how extensive it is. >> phil what do you think? >> it's interesting. to my mind the question is what do you do about it? the president's going to meet the chinese premier, this is surely a subject that's going to come up. these people presumably coming over, not diplomats, that means they don't have diplomatic immunity. presumably you could arrest them. i doubt that would happen but that's an option. think about what happens in terms of the espionage versus intimidation. what's the motivation for sending these folks here? it would be hard to make a case saying a chinese person here saying please come home is conducting espionage. >> especially if they're warning these people if you don't come
back to china, they're going to do something bad to relative hot are still in china. >> that's right. we saw this elsewhere. iran a lot of iranian expatriates in los angeles, for example. back home in tehran as in beijing, the government comes in and says there's somebody overseas we want to come home, if they don't come home, tell them life's going be tough back home. >> usually the first step in sending a message to china along these lines is give this kind of information to the news media they get the point, at least indirectly that way. >> well i think the first step is secretly covert messaging back and forth between the two governments. okay we've put up with so much up to now, no more cut it off. i think there's a lot said behind the scenes before it gets to the media. >> we'll stay on top of this story, we'll cover the visit by the chain kneels lead where he comes here to the united states. guys thanks very much. donald trump says he wants to send all undocumented immigrants out of the united states including children
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again, white house insiders are worried about what could happen if if joe biden jumps into the presidential race. firestorm. we're tracking the danger as blazing heat and scorching drought fuel a red-hot disaster across the west. more than 1 million acres have already been destroyed. is there any relief in sight? toxic secrets. oozing puddles of mysterious chemicals raising fears that millions of people are at risk of contamination after a series of massive explosions. is rain making it worse? we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." in the 2016 campaign tonight donald trump is passed over for jury duty but he's big voters new material to reach a verdict on his presidential bid. the republican front-runner's newly released immigration plan is as controversial as he is.
it includes a crackdown on legal immigrants and a change in citizenship rules written into the constitution. also developing the widening investigation of hillary clinton's e-mails. intelligence officials are reviewing the democrat front-runner's private server for classified information. tonight, court papers show that more than 300 documents have been referred for additional investigation. i'll talk with the former u.s. attorney general in the bush administration michael mu casey, accusing clinton of defying the law and common sense. our correspondents and analysts are standing by as we cover all the news that's breaking right now. first let's go to our senior washington correspondent jeff zeleny with more on trump and the republican presidential race. what's the latest jeff? >> wolf, everywhere donald trump goes he's swarmed by crowds and treated like a celebrity than a candidate for president. he's both and that's something many republicans are trying to grapple with. party leaders have now given up on the idea that his star will fade at the end of summer.
they're settling in for the long haul even as some worry his new immigration plan could keep the gop from ultimately winning over the voters they need to win back the white house. donald trump arrived for his civic duty in a black limousine, reporting for jury duty today in new york. >> it's something we have to do. >> reporter: a trump-sized spectacle outside. far quieter inside as captured on snapchat by a prospective fellow juror. >> we had a great time. the potential jurors were wonderful. >> reporter: a break from the republicans are rendering a winning verdict on trump. he's leading another national poll. solidifying his role as the gop front-runner. in a whirlwind weekend stop at the iowa state fair he said he would spend $1 billion of his own fortune on the campaign. >> i make $400 million a year. so what difference does it make? what i want to do is i want to make the country great. >> reporter: trump's also offering new red meat for
conservatives. a hardline immigration plan. his six-page proposal calls for an end to birdright citizenship. a provision in the fourteenth amendment to the constitution that grants citizenship to those born in the u.s. >> i appreciate the fact that mr. trump now has a plan if that's what it's called. >> reporter: so far, criticism like that isn't sticking as trump and other outsiders are turning this race upside down. leading an insurgency against their establishment republican rivals. a new fox news poll shows trump leading with 25%. followed by ben carson at 12 ted cruz at 10 and jeb bush falling into fourth place. wisconsin governor scott walker has led the way in iowa for most of the year. today he was heckled by labor activists at the state fair. >> i am not intimidated by you, sir, or anyone else out there. i will fight for the american people over and over and over and over again. >> reporter: walker and other
top republicans are being tested by an anti-establishment electorate. driving their poll numbers to single digits. >> worried? >> no it's a long haul. >> reporter: a long haul now overtaken by trump, on land and in the air. trump offered children free rides aboard his helicopter. >> mr. trump! >> yes? >> are you batman? >> i am batman. >> those rides on that $7 million trump helicopter will surely never be forgotten. but it's an open question whether all of the people who turned out to see him at the state fair will actually turn out and support him in february when the iowa cau doeses officially start the 2016 voting. the people i talked to at the fair were intrigued. some said they would support him for sure. others said they liked how he was shaking up the race but they needed to wai and see. we'll have to wait and see how his candidacy evolves. he was not picked for jury duty tote. >> not surprised. all right, thanks very much jeff zeleny. now to the democratic
presidential race. there's new hand-wringing at the white house about what might happen if joe biden, vice president, jumps in as hillary clinton's e-mail controversy is growing. our senior white house correspondent jim acosta is on martha's vineyard where president obama is taking his august vacation. what's the latest over there, jim? >> reporter: wolf as joe biden might say, it would be a big deal if the vice president decides to run for the white house. but there is one major obstacle potentially standing in the way beyond hillary clinton. a well-placed source tells cnn there are worries inside the white house. a biden candidacy won't end well. he could be the straight-talking shoot from the lip candidate many democrats are craving. >> [ bleep ]. >> reporter: as an alternative to hillary clinton. >> joe biden is the original authentic candidate, the guy who can walk around and talk to people like you and me and iowa and south carolina and all over the country and connect with them on a visceral level.
>> reporter: a movement to draft joe biden for president is gaining momentum. collecting some 200,000 signatures. and the vice president is fueling speculation himself, considering a run while on vacation in the early primary state of south carolina. potential rival bernie sanders, who's gaining on clinton, said he would welcome biden to the race. >> he is a very decent guy. he is a friend of mine. if he gets in that's great. if he doesn't get in, that's great, that's his decision. >> reporter: but not everybody in the democratic party is on board. at the white house, a well-placed democratic source said there are concerns a biden candidacy would end badly, damaging his image as an elder statesman, adding i'm not getting any sense of a joe biden caucus inside the white house. but biden is also seen by some as a safety net for a party growing nervous about clinton's use of her private e-mail system as secretary of state. before the clintons and the obamas linked up for golf and galas on martha's vineyard she accused the ginning up
controversy. >> here's what i won't do. i won't get down in the mud with them. >> reporter: she joke about the new favorite social media app snapchat. >> i love it. those messages disappear all by themselves. >> reporter: still, top democratic sources say clinton remains the party's best hope for protecting and expanding president obama's legacy. ♪ there is deep affection for the vice president at the white house where it's clear officials are giving biden time to grieve his son beau's recent death and weigh his own political future. >> the president and vice president are very close. the president has said that he believes his best political decision the smartest political decision he's ever made was choosing joe biden to be his running mate. >> a source familiar with the vice president's thinking says biden's decision is expected at the end of the summer, adding don't think august think late
september. if biden runs it would be a huge dilemma for the president, wolf. after appointing a team of rivals the president may have to choose between two of them. that's of course a big if though. if vice president biden gets into the race. >> he could be neutral too, right? >> that's right, and what the white house has said repeatedly we've heard this in recent weeks, the president would very likely stay neutral all the way to the convention next year. but privately, he could send signals. many of those signals are already being sent by top officials inside this white house. >> all right, jim acompanies tax thank you. biden's decision may depend in part on the clinton e-mail controversy and how it plays out. we're getting new information tonight about the federal investigation that's under way right now. let's go to our justice correspondent pamela brown who's been digging on this story. what are you learning? >> we've learned 305 documents from hillary clinton's private server have been referred to various intelligence agencies for consultation to determine whether the contents are classified. this is according to a court
filing from the state department today. and this is after intelligence officials from five different agencies joined the review process of clinton's e mays. here's what the court filing says. out of a sample of approximately 20% of clinton's e-mails the intelligence community reviewers have only recommended 305 documents, approximately 5.1% for referral to their agencies for consultation. this is an update for a federal judge on review efforts and response to a freedom of information act lawsuit. hillary clinton has denied sending or receiving information marked as classified through her personal server. it's unknown at this point if any of the 305 flagged e-mails contain classified information. but this does come at a time when the fbi's investigating her private server. we know it is in the fbi's hands. this is a private server she kept her own, we know the inspector general has two
e-mails at least that should have been marked top secret. >> others should have been marked secret. top secret a higher level of classification. thanks very much for that. let's bring in a former bush administration cabinet member with very strong views on the clinton e-mail controversy. the former u.s. attorney general michael mu casey joining us from new york. thanks very much for joining us. i want to get your reaction. i read your strong article in the "wall street journal" over the weekend. 305 e-mails now being referred for further consultation by intelligence officials. your reaction to the scope of this investigation? >> my reaction is i'm not really surprised that the number is 305. and please note that these are only the ones that she turned over to the state department. this is not based on a search of the server. which, according to her, was wipe the.
i would think a search of the server if it was made or a search of the thumb drives would yield a higher number still. >> david kendall is her long-time personal attorney. based on what you know attorney general, do you think the fbi, other experts, can retrieve that information she says was wiped from that personal server? >> i don't know how the wiping took place. and i know that the fbi's ability,n from sick ability in this area is unexcelled. if anybody can do it they can do it. it depends how the server was wiped. whether she simply pressed delete in which case they can probably retrieve a lot of information, or if somebody went to the trouble of writing over the hard drive with gibberish, in which case it would be very difficult. >> you heard a clip in jim acosta's piece, i won't get down in the mud with them i won't play politics with national security. that's her reaction to what's going on. a bunch of republicans basically trying to score political points
against her, that's her accusation. your response? >> that's very odd, wolf. because the disclosure of the information is not coming from republicans. it's coming from the justice department and the state department and the fbi. all of which, i believe, are run by democrats. the notion that somehow it's republicans leaking the information is totally misplaced. >> what would investigators have to find to determine that hillary clinton actually committed a crime? >> well they'd have to find a whole lot more than would be disclosed simply by a search of the server, although that would be a good start. they really need to find what she knew about what was going into that server and what she did not know. and in order -- if they could simply find that she knew there was classified information going in there, that's enough to prove the same offense that general petraeus pleaded guilty to. that's a misdemeanor. but if you go up the scale a little bit, if they can show that she then purposely
destroyed federal records, that's a more serious violation, if they can show any this material related to the national defense and she destroyed it or let it be destroyed, that's higher still. if she can show she ordered it destroyed in the interest of obstructing even a potential proceeding and that would be the proceeding before the benghazi committee, that's a very high level. >> so you say potentially she could be facing not only a misdemeanor charge but, what a felony charge? is that what you're saying? >> one or more yes. but understand that a lot has to be shown in order for that to happen. including her acts and her guilty knowledge. now, you don't have to be too cynical to suspect there will be a lot of people within her entourage who will step forward and say, no she didn't know anything. i did it somebody else did it. >> if there was -- in other words, secret or top secret information that was going in that personal server that would be a violation of the
classification rules, right? >> precisely. >> and that's a serious potential violation. when you took office as the attorney general of the united states, your staff made sure you stopped carrying a blackberry. in case you inadvertently sent confidential information. what questions about hillary clinton's suitability for the oval office the decision she made to have a private server do all of her communications during her four years as secretary of state, what does that say to you? because you're very concerned about that and her common sense, if you will. >> i think, as -- what i said in the article is it really raises judgment questions. how do you, as the highest-ranking foreign relations official not understand that the material that you're dealing with is enormously sensitive and has to be put at the highest level of security? instead put on it a personal server for personal convenience, or out of personal motive? that's the real question. and it's a serious question. and that's one that has to be
answered. i guess in the first instance by democrats, who are in the process of selecting their presidential candidate. >> i just want to remind our viewers, you served in the republican administration of president bush as the attorney general of the united states. attorney general, stand by with me for a moment. i want to take a quick break. we have more to discuss, including what the current attorney general loretta lynch, current fbi director james comey, what they presumably are doing. much more with the former attorney general right after this. can a business have a mind? a subconscious. a knack for predicting the future. reflexes faster than the speed of thought. can a business have a spirit? can a business have a soul? can a business be...alive?
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back with the former attorney general of the united states michael mukasey, who served during the bush administration. we're talking about the federal investigation under way right now of hillary clinton's use of private e-mails while she served for four years as the secretary of state. the investigation obviously involves the justice department u.s. attorneys i assume the fbi. here's the question attorney general. do you have confidence that the attorney general, the current attorney general, loretta lynch, the current fbi director james comey, both nominated by the president of the united states will conduct a fair, responsible investigation? >> i certainly have no reason at this point to question it.
the investigation i believe is being conducted in according to the report that i saw, within the national security division, which is a very well-respected division of the department. and i think has remained apolitical. so i'm -- at this point certainly have no basis to question the way the investigation's being conducted, snoefrls it's being conducted in the justice department. at the fbi, again, you're dealing with an institution that is not simply one person. it's an institution that's been around for a long time. and they've got, as i said before enormous technical capacity. and a lot of integrity on the line. so again, i'm not questioning either them or the national security division of the justice department. >> you have confidence in these career professionals? >> i do. >> michael mukasey, thanks very much for joining us. let's bring in our cnn political contributor, senior legal analyst jeffly toobin and mark preston. jeffrey, give us legal context.
what's your analysis? how serious potentially is this violation, this investigation, of hillary clinton and her private server on those e-mails? >> well it's certainly a serious political problem and it's not going to go away any time soon. these investigations take time. but i really think the former attorney general is hyperventilating a bit, talking about felonies and what the evidence might show. there is absolutely no evidence here of any sort of criminal conduct. criminal conduct has always involved giving or allowing people who don't have access or shouldn't have access to classified information, giving them that information. here hillary clinton clearly made a dumb mistake in using this kind of server. but there's no allegation that she gave or allowed this information to go to people who weren't supposed to have it. she was dealing with her staff. these are people who are entitled to see classified information. so it's a political problem. it's not going away. but i don't see it as any sort
of criminal problem. >> even when the fbi gets involved, as you well know and you served as the u.s. attorney's office once they start these kinds of investigations you clearly don't know where they wind up. >> you absolutely do not. and they take a long time. they don't take weeks, they tend to take months. and the other thing that's a particular problem for her is we talk about classified information as if it's easy to define. it's not. and it is a certainty, i think, that there is going to be classified information found on her e-mails because these agencies are always erring on the side of saying material is classified. so even if it's not marked as classified certainly some of this information is going to be regarded after the fact as classified and that's going to be a problem for her politically. >> mark let's talk about how hillary clinton's rhetoric if you will her explanations have evolved over these past several months. listen to this.
>> i did not e-mail any classified material to anyone on my e-mail. there is no classified material. >> i did not send nor did i receive material marked classified. >> she's now saying she did not send or receive material marked classified. is this a big significant change? or a minor little rhetorical change? >> she's certainly parsing the words right now and she understands there has been this bright spotlight that is being shone on her. let us saw donald trump hoopla one of the big winners is hillary clinton. certainly in the short-term because the focus hasn't been as much on her. but as jeffrey said this investigation is not going to get finished next week this is going to go on for months and months and months and months. that is going to dog her politically. i think for republicans, specifically congressional republicans, they have to be careful not to overreach. if they overreach, it is going to appear a partisan witchhunt. >> republicans haven't had to do
much. the obama administration is now pushing this. the fbi is investigating it. the "new york times" is pushing this. so republicans i think have been very smart to kind of let this play out. and you're right, we hope that they don't overextend on this. we haven't really needed to so far. >> here's the question for you. would republicans rather run against hillary clinton or joe biden? >> oh i think they'd rather rub against joe biden. let me say joe biden is a formidable candidate. i was talking to a republican presidential candidate recently off the record who said oh i hope he gets in he'd be a disaster for the democratic party, he's such a gaffe machine. well that's true. but next to trump? is there anything joe biden could say that would be disqualifying? i doubt it. not to mention democrats have been bleeding a certain kind of voter. an older white male blue collar voter that joe biden looks and talks like. so i actually think he would help the democrats shore up
particularly constituency they've been losing in past cycles. >> he's got to make that decision quickly. obviously if he's serious about this. certainly at this point he's considering it. we know that for sure. but he hasn't made a final decision. jeffrey, on the republican side donald trump, he's continuing to solidify his lead over the weekend he released his immigration plan which includes among other things changing the fourteenth amendment to the constitution doing away with that so-called birthright clause that grants citizenship to anyone born in the united states. does his plan seem feasible to you? >> it could be done. i mean we could fill boxcars with people who are in this country illegally. we have 11 million people who are in the country illegally. many of them who have american citizen children under birthright citizenship. and we could fill enormous boxcars full of people and key port them all at once. the question is do we want to live in a country that does that sort of thing? do we want to live in a country that does mass deportations?
historically that has not been the way the united states operated. but immigration is something that inflames a lot of people especially in the republican party. you could change the constitution. you could deport 11 million people. and the question is is there the political will to do it? so far the answer is no. >> i spoke with linsey graham, republican approximatedtial candidate, he agrees with trump doing away with the so-called birthright citizenship. >> yeah moemd changing that law. i think it's a bad practice to give citizenship based on birth. >> is this going to fly among republicans? >> yes. scott walker also chimed in to say he would do away with that law. i think harry reid has said that's a bad law. 54% of americans, according to one poll that i saw today, think birthright citizenship is a bad idea. i don't know that it's politically controversial or toxic as democrats are suggesting. >> it would require an amendment
to the constitution. >> which among republicans is always a big sort of no-no. let's be cautious about changing the constitution. i think, in the world of worlds where donald trump is president and having to deal with this new legislation, he'd have trouble among republicans. >> all right, guys. we'll continue our analysis of what's going on. thanks very much. coming up you're going to see a lot more political coverage here in "the situation room." we're going to see the next republican presidential debate on cnn coming up on september 16th at the reagan library in california. and the first democratic presidential debate will air here on cnn october 13th. that will be live from nevada. just ahead, wildfires burning out of control across the drought-stricken western u.s. a live update on the disasters unfolding in several states. plus the potentially toxic aftermath from that series of explosions that rocked a major port city.
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>> reporter: firefighters able to hold the fire in montebello to a little more than 200 acres. a federal fire official tells me they have never seen so many simultaneous and spread-out fires since 2007. in the west triple-digit temperatures. wind. the ravages of drought. the perfect firestorm. more than 25,000 firefighters now battling blazes in 10 states. the national fire preparedness level at 5, the highest. almost two dozen fires scorching washington state alone. resident is praised crews. >> they came quick. hot and heavy. the winds kicked up and it was unstoppable. >> reporter: other residents not as fortunate. dozens of structures and more than 50,000 acres burned. 1,000 residents evacuated. >> we thought it was a little fire. then it started spreading and the wind got faster. >> reporter: in california over 13,000 firefighters are trying to extinguish almost two hundred stubborn blazes. a southern california heat wave
fueling this fire where firefighters tried to save a lodge. in montebello a suspected arson fire caused major traffic jams. walls of flame exploded over the road. aerial support on this the lincoln fire came from canada. two super scoopers from quebec helping out in southern california. this plane dipping into the water to reload while residents continued on their quest to cool off in dangerously hot fire weather. and perhaps lost in all this is the success. a cal fire spokesman telling me today that they've been able to keep 96.7% of the fires to 10 acres or less. and 95% is their goal. >> paul vercammen on the scene, thank you. meteorologist jennifer grey monitoring conditions from the cnn weather center. these fire crews are facing terrible conditions right now. here's the question is there any relief in sight? >> not much. and the problem is when you have
the windy conditions they advance so quickly that the firefighters cannot keep up. look at this brown color. that is very dry air pulling into the west. that is going to stick around. it causes the grass and the brush, the trees, to become even drier than they already are because of the drought. so it's just going to allow fuel for these fires. also the windy conditions as we mentioned, the winds not only cause those fires to advance very quickly but they can carry those very tiny embers long distances and they'll land in an area that has not been scorched and all of a sudden you have another fire on your hands. so that's how a lot of these fires are spreading. so the windy conditions dry conditions, as well as the heat is going to stick around for the pacific northwest as well as california. not much rain either. most of the rain is going to stay east of the rockies so we're not looking at any rain from los angeles all the way up to seattle and east to the rockies. so let's look on the floor and
we can show you what we're dealing with. all of these fires west of the rockies, look at the concentration in northern idaho, eastern washington. there's one fire near boise, the soda fire more than 300 square miles, larger than new york city. we have 76 active large fires right now west of the rockies. 6.5 million acres burning. and you know the drought conditions that we're in in the west. 8% in exceptional drought, 23% in extreme, 42% in severe. wolf, it doesn't look like much relief is going to come especially for the pacific northwest, over the next couple of weeks. >> horrible situation indeed jennifer thank you. a series of massive and deadly explosions has been followed by new fears of a toxic threat in one of china's largest port cities. spire neighborhoods right now are in ruins. many residents say they're afraid this disaster isn't over yet. cnn's will ripley is on the scene for us.
>> reporter: with terrifying force, the fireball sent shockwaves through tianjin, leaving massive destruction, piles of debris, and something else. small mounds of unknown chemicals emitting heat and what looks like steam when exposed to water, raising fears of what could happen when it rains. >> we're not going to move it until we're sure it's safe. because there are so many kids in there. >> reporter: shi is one of thousands of homeowners now homeless. families and the government don't know the full list of toxins propelled through this bustling chinese port city. >> do you feel safe going pack home? >> no no no. the chemical stuff is all over. it was like a fire exemployeding, flying to everywhere. some parts might fall to our yard, to our home. >> reporter: more than 2,000 chinese soldiers and hundred of
biochemical experts are working to neutralize the threat. searching up to three kilometers from the immediate blast area. taking air soil, and water samples. these stray chemicals sitting in an unsecured area less than a kilometer from the blast zone. >> do you know what this is? do you know if it poses a danger to anybody? >> reporter: tianjin's chief environmental officer tees me searchers have not entered residential area due to safety concerns about broken glass. he says they'll begin searching those areas if needed. chemical experts say it's impossible to know exactly what that is or what if any danger it pay pose without further testing. we know around here there's a lot of it scattered about, sitting close to thousands of homes. chow jun owns an apartment next door. he takes us there are the dark building he was supposed to move into this less than two months. he wonders if it will ever be safe. "after the explosion i worry
about the lose the water, the soil the whole structure of these buildings." like most chinese homeowners zhao and his fall hi saved for years to buy an apartment, unaware it was sitting near a hazardous chemical warehouse, now the focus of criminal investigation by china's highest prosecuting authority. are the officials corrupt or what? asks this homeowner. she and others are demanding the chinese government buy back their apartments afraid of living next to what they call a ticking time bomb. will ripley cnn, tianjin, china. >> horrible story. just ahead, president bowl speaking out about race and justice, making a sobering assessment of what the u.s. needs to do. we'll talk about it with the head of the naacp, cornell william brooks standing by live. we'll also talk about how black lives matter is impacting the 2016 presidential campaign. when you're not confident your company's
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president obama joining the national conversation on race and justice. in his weekly radio address he said the issues are not new, won't be solved by policing alone. the criminal justice reform and early childhood education must also be part of the solution. let's get some more on what the president is thinking what's going on. joining us the ceo and president of the naacp cornell
william brooks. also joining us cnn anchor don lemon. don, very quickly, the president says you need to deal honestly with these issues. you studied this for a long time. how do you do that? >> i also heard the president's radio address as well. and what he talked about he said we simply can't ask our police to contain and control issues that the rest of us aren't willing to address ourselves. so he's talking about a number of things. he's talking about dealing with systematic and institutional racism about implicit bias all of those things that we talk about all the time. but he's also talking about dealing with issues that we don't like to talk about. that when it comes to dealing with our issues in the african-american community, that we don't like to discuss, the issue of violence and those sorts of things. there are certain things that you can only -- one can only do for one's self. if we're going to have an honest conversation about it we need to deal with all of those things and not just policing. and that's why i was so happy, wolf i don't know if you saw this 300-man march over the
weekend. it was i guess a couple of dozen young men marched from baltimore to washington, d.c. they took that 35-mile walk. because they wanted to highlight the violence that happens in communities. the killings that happen almost every single night in baltimore and chicago and other places. and until we get real about that until those black lives matter the black lives that police take won't matter as much until we get real about that. so i was very proud to see them do that. i think we need to get -- everyone should get behind those young men and we need 3 million young men marching to washington. >> good point. cornell, speaking about black lives matter we see disrupting of presidential candidates. what's your analysis of what's going on? is this good or bad? >> certainly is it polite? no. but the issue is not how polite our protesters are but how responsive our public servants and politicians are. make no mistake, it's not kind or polite to disrupt an event.
but the point being here is for someone who's 18 or 19 years old, seeing people killed being racially profiled there's a certain kind of urgency and impatience with what is going on. and so i think the focus needs to be on not only effective protest strategies but also effective responses to real public policy problems. >> there are going to be more republican debates. cnn's hosting the first democratic presidential debate. cornell, what would you like to hear from these candidates on both sides? >> sure. i'd like to have the candidates reflect in their platforms and in their speeches what has been happening over the course of many months. they need to be real responses with respect to racial profiling in this country. a real response to the fact that the african-american unemployment rate is chronically, historically twice that of white americans. there needs to be a real response to the fact that the economic recovery has been uncertain and uneven leaving the african-american community and many others near certainly
pre-recession -- i should say pre-recovery levels in terms of economic recovery. >> don, as you know there was this "new york times" report saying the president is already working to shape how we'll take up the issue of criminal justice, reform race relations after he leaves office. he's got a year and a half to go. as an incumbent president he can do more than he potentially might do later, right? >> as the most powerful person in the world, leader of the free world, he certainly does. we've talked about this and discussed this and i'm sure you remember when my brother's keeper, we were reporting on that an historic day when he launched that. also his aides and him basically saying this is what he's going to take up. and i believe this will be a big part of his legacy. certainly, yes, he can have a lot of influence. i think he's seeing that now and that's why you are seeing and hearing him talk more openly and freely about race in the way that he is >> don, thanks very much. note to our viewers, don will be
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we're back with the president of the naacp, cornell brooks. i first want to take a moment to remember his predecessor a giant in the civil rights movement whom i had the pleasure of interviewing a few times here on cnn. we're talking about julian bond. he died over the weekend after a brief illness. he was only 75 years old. president obama calls him a
hero. ♪ we shall overcome ♪ >> from the march on washington to bloody sunday in selma, alabama. julian bond was an iconic figure in america's struggle for civil rights. he was a student of dr. martin luther king jr. in morehouse college in atlanta and one of dr. king's youngest foot soledier soldiers. >> we got others to join us by demonstrating that we were willing to risk our lives to help them but they'd have to take a step too. they'd have to join us. >> bond is remembered as a passionate and eloquent voice for the cause of justice who carried on dr. king's legacy in a number of leadership roles. he founded the southern poverty law center was chairman of the naacp for a decade served in the georgia house and senate and
taught at various universities including harvard. >> are you prepared to take the oath senator? >> i am. >> bond lived to see enormous progress for african-americans and troubling setbacks. >> smoke, smoke! >> in the aftermath of the ferguson riots, bond joined other civil rights leaders in reminding the nation that the nate fight fight for equality is still a work in progress. >> this is about years and years and years and years of police miss treatment of back people. there's nothing the people in ferguson are not asking for that dr. king and his cam rads didn't ask for. this is a continuation of the classic struggle of people of color to be treated decently to be treated fairly. >> and the current president of the naacp, cornell william brooks, is still with us. you knew julian bond well. a great, great man. thoughts about this loss. >> julian bond represented a paul robison renaissance figure
in the modern civil rights movement. think about it. this is someone who was not only a youthful activist but also an elder statesman and chairman emeritus of the naacp board. founder of the southern poverty law center. a pioneer with respect to it. a journalist documentary filmmaker, historian, and more to the point, a role model for a generation of young activists who are following in his wake. that is to say, he was someone who combined both intellectual acuity and moral clarity with an eloquent voice and, more to the point, he was willing to walk his talk. he put his body on the line. and i believe he combined several lifetimes worth of work in the course of one lifetime. >> he was always very active in the naacp. he was president, as you know one of your predecessors for a long time. he actually interviewed you and helped you get this current
position. >> yes. >> what was that like? >> it was intimidating. you walk into a room full of board members. julian bond waited his turn to ask questions. he asked me a question. i answered it simply. he said that's all i need to know. of course that made be nervous as to whether i answered the question sufficiently. he was a very down to earth man. >> what was the question? >> did i agree with the naacp's position on marriage equality to which i answered yes. he said that's all i need to know. >> he was a pioneer in that movement as well. >> very much so. a pioneer with human rights civil rights the rights of gays and lesbian americans. he wanted the canopy to cover many americans. those who were voiceless, those on the margins. and he did so with the power of his voice, the power and eloquence of his example. he'll be deeply missed. we as the naacp family and this nation grieve for the life that
we lost and we're grateful for the life that we were given. >> give me one final thought with the naacp -- and you're the president, ceo -- needs to do in his memory right now? >> we need to double down and commit ourselves to act as he did by putting his body on the line. being prophetic in terms of our voice. and being clear and consistent with respect to it. keep in mind this is someone that gave at least a half century of service to the country. we should endeavor to do more of the same. >> he was an amazing, amazing man, did a lot for our country. >> beautiful man. >> certainly was. had the privilege of meeting him on a few occasions. good luck to you. good luck to the naacp. i know you guys are in a march as well right now. >> yes. >> you can follow me on twitter. tweet me @wolfblitzer. we sure to join us here tomorrow on "the situation room." can't watch us live you can always dvr the show.
erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" tonight republicans firing back at donald trump's immigration plan some calling it gibberish. saying no one thinks a wall at the border will actually work. a new report calls amazon a brutal workplace. is the world's biggest retailer also its worst place to work? and 50 people feared dead after a jetliner crashes. is the high demand for cheap air travel behind the spate of asian air disasters? let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm jim sciutto in for erin burnett. trump gets specific outlining his immigration