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there are more than 12,000 accounts with u.s. military e-mail addresses and nearly 7,000 with american or canadian government e-mail addresses. anderson, a lot of people on edge. >> that does it for us. the cnn special report "the donald trump interview" starts now. >> i think the voters like me. they understand me. >> he is on top of every poll you want to look at. >> don't let the circus distract you. >> the donald in striking range. >> people do not want to have a president who attacks mexicans, attacks immigrants. >> they're bringing drugs. they're bringing crime. they're rapists. >> what donald trump said is wrong. >> i cherish women. >> he is becoming a jackass. >> we're led by stupid people. >> donald domination. >> ladies and gentlemen. >> president of the united states, donald j. trump! for ♪ ♪
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>> thank you for joining us. we can all agree the election is certainly exciting much earlier than usual. face it, it's because of donald trump. inspired or disgusted, he has many of you thinking, or arguing. he has the tmedia in high gear. he got to where he is by being an outsider with fame and furor, but no real shot. he shocked the political establishment by becoming the face of the gop's discontent. tonight you are going to see a different donald trump, a front-runner, someone with something to lose with the growing weight of expectation to not just be loud but to be a leader for his party and maybe even beyond. so tonight, listen to what he does and does not say about immigration, trade, jobs, isis, all of the big issues. and even the straight talk he has for the pope. and you will get a look at the personal as well. how he feels about his family being exposed to the toxic political environment.
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and the role his wife may play in the days ahead. now this conversation couldn't come at a better time. our new cnn/orc poll shows trump within striking distance of hillary clinton were the presidential election held today. just six points behind the democratic front-runner. so you think you know what he is going to say about that poll? huge. prepare to be surprised. so, we have the polls and politics, policy, and then the personal. they're all ps. we'll jump around as seems right to you. okay. >> that's fine. >> the latest cnn/orc poll, you don't get more accurate than that. it has you for the first time competitive in the general election. six points separating you and hillary clinton. you must be shocked? >> that's not my focus right now. i have 16 other people i'm looking that. that's not my focus. indirectly it is. i think hillary will have a hard time being in the election based on the e-mail, servers, maybe even the speeches.
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i think it is going to be a very hard thing for her to overcome. when i look, chris, at what happened with petraeus on a much smaller level. great general. wonderful guy. everybody loves him. and they have destroyed his life over much less. i mean, in terms of confidentiality, in terms of importance, much less. and far fewer. and it would seem hard to think that somebody could have a much worse situation than him and escape. >> well, the factual distinction would be that was classified information with petraeus and he knew it and he used it. here we do not know yet what hillary clinton was doing, that she was doing the wrong thing or mishandling classified information? >> it looks like it does. it looks like it was high-level information. what's the purpose of it? always skirting the edge. what's the purpose of it? in the end she had something in mind. she didn't want people to know or something. what is he doing? why is she doing it? >> you think this is ready going to hurt her long time?
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>> i think it is devastating, i think her bigger problem is not the election. i think her bigger problem is going to be the criminal problem. >> you really think this could turn out to be a criminal situation for hillary clinton? >> i don't think i amount only one. the fbi is involved. they only do criminal. maybe it is somebody on her staff. but look it is either criminal or incompetence, one or the other. either gross incompetence or criminal. neither is acceptable to be president. >> i feel look you are skipping the headline. you are six points from hillary clinton. nobody would have expected that. you are kind of glossing over it. why? shouldn't you say six points, i can't believe i'm not ahead. >> that's one thing i could say. i think we will do well against hillary. hillary's record as secretary of state was a disaster. she was in favor of the iraq war, obviously not a good sound bite. i think we are going to do very well. as you know i have been against it for years. the iraq war. i said you are going to decimate iraq.
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iran will take over the middle east and take over iraq which is exactly what is happening. and somebody is going to come and take over the leftover oil. who did that turn out to be? isis. so if you look at 2004, exactly what i said happened. so call it vision. i have to call it vision because i am trying to get elected. first time in my life. i am trying to get elected. i am a politician. there was a certain vision. i have gotten a lot of credit for it. they made a terrible mistake. then they made a terrible mistake the way they got out. in my opinion they made a worse mistake not keeping the oil. because isis took the oil. and iran is going to take the rest. >> people wanted out, mr. trump. they didn't want forces there, or now. if you want to do what you suggest which is take the oil, that would take troops, danger, blood, treasure. >> i would like to take the oil, give a lot of money to the families of the people who were killed, to the incredible wounded warriors all over the place. i love these people. these are the greatest people. they're living in hell.
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i would give lots of money to them, their families. i mean look at all the people. we spent $2 trillion, thousands of people killed, tens of thousands of wounded warriors. we have nothing. right now iran is going to take over iraq. and isis has taken big parts of the wealthy section. >> would it be worth creating more wounded veterans to do what you want to do there? >> what i would do, you won't have that many, i would tell you. i would take over the source of their wealth. big source of their wealth is the oil. and also if you look at what is going on with the banks. the iranian banks, saudi banks, funneling money into isis. yet we help these people. we make this horrible deal, i mean one of the worst, go down as one of the worst deals ever made by a country with another country. and it is going to lead to whether it is nuclear destruction, you could name lots of bad scenarios. but the deal with iran is a totally incompetently negotiated transaction. >> wasn't one of the reasons -- i know there are many and
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complex, that the allies felt they needed to do a deal with the iran, the nuclears, iran has been helpful with isis. fighting isis for whatever reasons. maybe they're good, neutral, bad reasons. they've been fighting against isis not trying to help isis. >> there is a whole thing going on. first look at iran with syria. now, isis is fighting syria. we're supposed to be syria's great enemy. we are fight isis. you can all most say why are we fighting isis in syria? let isis fight with syria and take up the leftovers or do whatever you have to do. so assad has to be looking at us and saying, "hey these are supposed to be my enemies butter that ones fighting isis and isis is a very, very big enemy from his standpoint." there are so many mistakes we are making in the middle east. it's incredible. when you look at that one thing. isis wants to go after syria. we are fighting isis in syria. now the other thing is that isis is taking oil in syria. i am all for the oil. i want to take care of ourselves. i want to rebuild this country.
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we should focus on the wealth of isis. we have to do something with isis. i was against going after iraq because it will destabilize the middle east. i was right. now we have to do something. when they're chopping off head because a person is a christian. by the way, chop off heads of almost anybody any way. people living in hell. this is medieval times. take the wealth. take the oil. i say give lots of money. there will be plenty left over. peanuts by comparison to the families of those soldiers that died and to the wounded warriors. plenty of money to them. they deserve it. >> when you think about isis and what you do to stop them, how much of it for you is about the military? how much of it for you is about doing other things, political things to strengthen the regions that they're preying upon? >> i think a lot of it is about the military. one of the things i noticed in the poll, came out way ahead of
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everybody on the economy. people weren't surprised. i also came out way ahead on the military. >> isis specifically. >> and isis. i think i will be a great sleeper in the military. people wouldn't think it is my strength. i think it would be. i want to build up our military. i want to have such an incredible military that nobody is going to play games with us. nobody is going to mess with us. hopefully we will never have to use our military. we need a powerful military. being in the real estate business, i get so many listings of bases, army bases, navy bases. so many all the time. our base is for sale. a place where they have soldiers is for sale. i keep saying, how many of these places do they have where i can get all these listings. take a look at a lot of sales of bases, military bases. i would build up our military so strong, so powerful, that nobody will mess with us. and i think, actually that will be the thing that i will be really just about the best at. >> so does donald trump really think that the united states isn't the strongest military in the world? we are going to ask him that after the break.
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what do you think so far? hit me up on social media, #trumponcnn. or wait until you hear what comes next. does trump get his take on isis and everything you heard from what he sees on tv? plus, the famous names he says he already has lined up to take on some of our biggest challenges. and why he thinks hillary clinton has a better chance of becoming a convict than a winning candidate. stay with us. [ piercing sound ] daddy! lets play! sorry kids. feeling dead on your feet? i've been on my feet all day. dr. scholl's massaging gel insoles have a unique gel wave design for outrageous comfort that helps you feel more energized. dr. scholl's. feel the energy! plaque psoriasis. moderate to severe
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welcome back. the biggest reason many americans support donald trump, a simple one. right or wring they think his ability to get rich would translate into making us better off by running the economy like a big business. trump, best prepared republican to deal with the economy. but can he deliver? listen to what he has to say about job creation, trade deals and di policemplomacy. he talks, you decide. >> i will be the greatest jobs president that god ever created. i will take them back from china, japan, from mexico. doing an incredible job. their leaders are much smorter than our leaders. they're taking tremendous industry. if you look, nabisco announced they're building a big plant. leaving chicago. nabisco, how american can you get? nabisco building a big plant in
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mexico. ford is building a $2.5 billion factory, car plant, manufacturing plant. cars, trucks, parts. in mexico. >> how do you keep them? the labor is cheap that's why they go? >> for one thing you keep them by talking to them. you keep them , if they go ther they will make cars, sell them to the united states, no tax, no nothing. come right across the border. next thing they will have the illegals driving them across the border. take them in. drive them in. it's cheaper that way. you have to talk to these people. see the head of ford. >> they say the labor is cheaper over there? >> that's fine. that's good. you have to pay a tax to get the cars back in. pay a penalty. if you put a penalty on a tariff or whatever you call it. believe me, china is doing it to us. china dumps all their stuff with us. i'm not complaining about that. i have friend that are manufacturers they cannot get their product into china. so if they're going to do it to us. we have to do it to them. >> they will say then my car
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will cost more for your people? >> no, they're going to make cars here. maybe a person will buy fewer cars over the course of a lifetime. who cares. we have to bring back our jobs, chris. we have to do it. we have no choice. >> i hear you. the question becomes how. and you pointed out. you have ford saying it is cheaper over there, you will punish the consumer. >> you are not punishing the consumer. we owe $18 trillion. soon it will be $20 trillion. we have to start creating jobs. we have to start creating wealth. look we all go to good schools. i go to great schools. you go to great schools. you don't have to be the great student to know when ford builds this massive plant to build cars and then they bring them back into our country no tax. we get nothing. we get nothing. they leave michigan. i was in michigan the other night. unbelievable people. we had an unbelievable crowd. they leave michigan, take them out of detroit and all over the place. they go to mexico. there is no way that helps us.
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and you are going to have to do something with the tariff at the border if they're going to make cars over there. if they're going to leave the united states and create jobs for mexico not the united states. you know what? it's fine. they have to pay some kind of a price. we are getting killed on trade. >> all right. >> interestingly, carl icahn agrees with me. carl icahn is a great negotiator. i have many others, they're dying to get involved. >> you wouldn't really put him in charge of china? >> i would absolutely. >> in charge of choivenina. it makes people think it's not a -- >> it's a business too. you can come up with me into the building. see the largest bank from china is in this building. i have a great relationship with china. just like with mexico. >> didn't you see diplomacy and policy people? >> we have diplomacy. they're killing us. they don't like us. they don't like us. they're beating us. with me they'll look us and
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we'll beat them. how do i have the biggest bank as my tenant? they're a tenant. i have them, china. i sell tremendous numbers of units, apartments to people from china. they love me. and "business week" had a story. what are the ten things the chinese want. one was anything trump. is that right? they respect the truth. they understand they're ripping us off. i take a guy like carl icahn, henry kravetz, so many guys you know. i would like you to watch over the deals being made with china. we are getting killed on trade. believe me we will be so good. you should get a guy like carl on. very smart. great negotiator. >> you think he would take a job like that? >> he would do it in two second. told me he would love to diet. >> oversee china? >> oversee the trade deals in china. i would give him china and japan. he can handle both, believe me. i have others. these are -- we have the smartest, greatest negotiators,
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greatest business people in the world. we don't use them. we use people like, a very nice person, my daughter likes her, ivanka, she has to be wonderful. caroline kennedy in japan. she didn't know how she got the job. i watched her on "60 minutes." she said i asked for the job. they gave me the job. would you look to be ambassador to japan? i said really. and, as you know the ambassador to japan has a big role in trade. >> sure. >> i would much rather have henry kravetz, carl icahn, have other people doing it. we'll come out great. chris, i was in los angeles, and i saw ships coming in from japan. the biggest ships i have ever seen. loaded up with cars. okay, thousands of cars. they're pouring off the ships. >> they're cheaper. >> wait a minute. they're pouring off the ships. you know what we send them? beef. they don't want it. because they say we don't want it. and we send them wheat.
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they don't want it. and you know what the imbalance is between these, you know over the years millions of cars and the little stuff we send them. it's massive. we have got to equalize it. >> so, there is donald trump talking to you about why you should trust him to make a difference in what problems will seem obvious to everyone about the economy. now despite his positions, specifically, even when it comes to immigration and hispanics, he says they'll love him. which you heard him say about the chinese. that takes us to a peek at vintage trump. take a look. the interview ends. walking over to fans. and waves to me to meet twine particular. look who he singled out? >> we are mexican-american. >> we are going to win the hispanics. >> i will work for you, sir. >> there is much more on trump's latest stance on immigration for you in this interview. specifically his new position that kicking people out who were born here is the right thing to
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let's go back to donald trump as commander-in-chief. this isn't just about the plan, it is about the leadership behind it. the ideas behind it. now trump has said controversial things. the answer to isis to surround the oil fields in iraq with u.s. troops. he knows not many of the troops will die doing that. that iran is actually funding isis. and that he is a better general than a general who helped take down saddam. but what really raises eyebrows is that much of the basis for these views comes from what donald trump says he sees on tv. is that true? see for yourself. so, you said something earlier about the poll. that you came out ahead on isis. that was a surprise to people. >> not to me. because i talk about it a lot. >> i understand. one of the reasons it might have been surprising because of something else you said. you got a lot of your military analysis from watching television. >> see, i didn't exactly say that. i watch your show. and i watch other shows.
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and you have on the best generals. >> we have a great staff. >> frankly, better than i could get. in all fairness what do i know? i'm a man, made a great fortune. i'm going to make our country rich. i'm going to make our country great. you do, get me the right generals. see, four, five, generals. see all sorts of people. even stoop done to the colonel stuff. you go all over the place. you have lots of great people. so do other shows. they are really great people. i read "the times" "the wall street journal," and i read magazines, especially "time" magazine this week because i am on the cover. i will especially read that. i read magazines. i read other things. sure, i need a team. but by the time you get to a problem. we are talking a long ways away. it is going to be changed. a whole set of different. different countries run by different people. in all fairness. >> you will have somebody, jeb bush has a policy team, a staff, he says he doesn't have one.
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>> he says he does. a very low energy person, jeb bush. very low energy. it's good. if you want to lead a long life. but he is a low energy person. perhaps he sits down all day long with a particular general. but you know what? i can get a lot of information in a very short time. i have met with numerous people. i was given the biggest award by the marines the other day. just about one of the biggest civilian awards by the marines the other day. with all the marines. head of the joint. new head of the joint chiefs of staff, a very impressive guy at waldorf-astoria, given one of the most distinguished award. >> they respect you? >> i think they do. i got the award from them. and they presented it to me. i think they do. but when i say that -- a lot of people thought that was very smart. you know, i watch all of the shows. you get the best people. you know because even the generals want to be on television, right? or they're retired generals in many cases. but i see a lot of good things
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by watching your show and other shows. and it's really nothing to be laughed at or scoffed at. >> if you took it to the next level you would have policy advisers. >> sure. i do. when i watch, without naming names. when i watch your different shows. your show particularly, you are very much into this. when i watch the different shows there are certain people i really think are terrific that i can do better by watching and seeing and read in "the times." then i know who i want to speak to. you are not going to meet with 400 different people the i do learn a lot by watching. i do learn a lot by reading the various newspapers and magazines and everything else. and i really find it to be a fascinating subject. and some people agree with me on isis. many of them agree with me on isis. >> probably reflected in the poll. today, what do you think your chances of becoming president of the united states? >> well i never look to talk about chances. i am doing really well. i am leading every poll.
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your polls have been very, very strong. fox came out a couple days ago, similar to your poll. leading everything. i was most happy with your poll because my daughter ivanka came up to me and my wife came up to me, melania. she know how passionate i am about women protecting women. i cherish women. and i, they're so important. when i watched jeb bush a week ago, not wanting to fund the women's health issues. he wanted to not fund them. he said, "well i don't think we need to spend $500 billion. i don't think they need that kind of --" i thought it was terrible. >> he says he meant planned parenthood. >> i watched him make the statement. then he went back and he rewound up by his pollsters. they said by the way you made a mistake. so then he said he misspoke. and but you know how do you misspeak about something like that. and my wife came up to me, my daughter ivanka, who you know, came up to me. they said the one thing you should do is talk a little bit
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about women's health issues. you are so good about i you know about it. you cherish women. you want to protect women. protect them in more than one ways. that way. i will protect them militarily too. we are such a target. this country is such a target. because we are considered to be weak. a weak country. considered to be weak now. i will protect women more than any body. >> you don't think we are considered the strongest country in the world militarily? >> i think we are considered to be a country in decline. serious decline. look at our education, number 25i25 in the world. >> would you let military fight in the mill taeshitary? the rangers? >> yeah, they're into it. some are really, really good. >> just had two graduate from the rangers school. >> i would speak to the generals. without political bent. i want to hear the truth. to the public, yes, yes, yes the i would want to hear without a political bent. i tell you what.
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i know some women, rhonda rousey, an example, who likes me. >> lucky for you. >> i take her on my side as a fighter. so, the answer is yes. i would. i would also want to speak however to the, to the military. >> you come on last week, you say, i don't have to talk about what i do with women, i can show what i do with women, we hire them. put them in positions of excellence. and pay them often better than male counterparts if their work warrants it. your office then comes and provide us with proof of performance. here are the jobs. it happens. a private company. don't want to out the people. you will say if i want to. >> they would be willing. >> i will sign nondisclosure. that goes out. issue challenge to the canned dachlcanned -- candidates. the media dismisses it, what is your take? >> the other candidates never hired anybody. i have had tens of thousand of people. i created tens of thousand of jobs, paid for education, health care, far better than obama
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care. i take great care of my people. i have a great company as you probably noticed when i did my filings. i am very proud of my company. the problem with the other candidates. they may have nobody works for them. they never created a job before. i am a job producing machine. >> that's a big part of his sell to you as to why he should be your next president. now we have asked candidates who are running against him and on the democratic side to provide similar information. and we're waiting on most of it. now a couple fall fact things. trump's claim of getting an award from the marines. according to them "the u.s. marine corps has not presented any awards to any presidential candidates this year. it is not customary for the marine corps to make presentations." the award came from the marine corps law enforcement foundation, a charity, not affiliated with the marines. as for rhonda rousey, she tells cnn i am not going to vote for trump. i wouldn't trust the guy running my country.
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it has long been the law of the land that if you are born inside the united states, you are an american citizen. no matter where your parents came from, no matter how they got here. the biggest controversy set off by donald trump this week is his plan to say no more. just being born here, not enough to become a citizen. now that is an idea that has little basis in law. but gets a lot of people riled up. let's test his reasoning on immigration reform and also talk about one man who may not like these ideas very much, the pope. immigration. >> right. >> you have people in the gop worried that you are going to alienate, excuse the pun, the hispanic population, 28 million. pulling the birth right exception, constitutional dubious, you shouldn't be taking an extreme position. what do you say?
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>> i have to do the right thing. a time, this country is so politically correct. nobody wants to take a stance. i brought up. i took a lot of heat. you gave it to me. you were one of the leaders the first week, week and a half after i made the announcements. a lot of people including yourselves, wear nre not readin the way i said it. i have been complimented by some of the people. i brought up the whole thing of illegal immigration. i belt yt you wouldn't have bee asking that if i hadn't put it in the opening statement. >> you changed the nature of the dialogue. i gave you that. i never take you out of context. >> many people did. >> would you then go -- >> at some point, look, at some point we have to be honest with ourselves. it's called, now they look to use the word undocumented because it is more political. i don't use that word. they're illegal immigrants. they came over illegally. some are wonderful people. they've been here for a while.
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they got to go out. they got to leave. >> how do you do it in a practical way? >> at some point we are going to try to get them back, the good ones. >> you are sending a mixed message? you say you will get rid of whole families. you want them back. >> they're illegal. we have a country. we have to have a border. we have to have a wall. mexico will pay for the wall. i get a kick out of the guys never negotiated. >> they're going to pay for $4 billion wall, you give them $280 million a year. why would they say yes? >> they make a fortune. our companies are moving into mexico. we are losing our industry and business to mexico. their leaders are smart as hell. i mean 300 ,000, 300,000 birth s this year, illegals in our country. that means we picked up 300,000 people that are going to get social security. you have people on the border and in one day they walk over, have a baby, now awfll of a sudden.
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>> the citizenship for the babies you are revoking, now, retroactively. >> number one, the 14th amendment is questionable whether somebody can come over, have a baby and the baby is a citizen. >> the court pretty much said, this is a minority legal opinion you are talking about. >> there are many people that totally feel. >> want it that way. >> amending is too big a deal. it will be two terms. i would be in my second term on my eighth year by the time, assuming everything went smoothly. because to amend the constitution. >> takes a long time. especially on a divisive issue. >> i believe you can win it legally. i believe you can win it legally. in any event the parent have to leave. if the parents leave unless they're very bad people they're going to take their baby. >> 75% of the country feels you should be trying to find a way to let people stay with conditions as opposed to kicking everybody out. >> these people, the really good ones. we have some great ones. we are going to try to expedite so they can come back the they will come back. when you look at baltimore. when you look at chicago.
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when you look at the crime that is going on. you have some of these people are illegal immigrants. i mean they're illegal. come into the country. they're gang members. the toughest of the group. they're tough. rough. >> you know most of them coming here to fight for the dream. >> i'd kick them out before i start building the wall. i will start building the wall. i will get them out. the first things i'm doing is getting the bad ones out. they're gone. they're not coming back. i will increase the hell out of the border, the guard. b border patrol. got to know a lot. they're fantastic. they want to be able to do their job. they're stopped from doing their job. before i even start the wall. i will start the wall very quickly. you know one of the things holding up the wall. environmental impact statements. can you believe this? >> think it's got to be low on the list. >> that's one of the things. they can't get environmental permits. can you believe this? that's all i do is get permits. >> going after the employers. this isn't a cheap thing. to come at you and say. >> they checked all of my
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buildings. so far with all of the jobs i have. washington, everyone. nobody has found one. are you impressed? >> good for you. >> i was impressed the moment you sat down. you have these employers, agri companies. big manufacturers. they take them in it is cheap labor. they get away with it all the time. you never hear a big case getting busted unless something happens and it goes away. >> we do have people that could do the jobs. they're unemployed now in this country. second of all, those good people that have been working with the companies. i want them to come back in. i want them to go out. i want them to come back in legally. so they can come back and work for the companies. i do want them to come back. >> do you go after the employers doing it the wrong way? >> the one way you find out who they are is through the employers. >> let me ask you about the pope. the pope is coming. do you want to meet him? >> i am protestant. i have great respect for the pope. i like the pope. he is becoming very political. there is no question about it. i like him. he seems like a pretty good guy. >> here's the moment. you meet the pope, pope francis
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comes. a translator. mr. trump this is very nice. i want to tell him something. the translator says, the pope believes that capitalism can be an avenue to greed. be really toxic and corrupt and shaking his finger at you when he so it. what do you say to the pope? >> i would say, isis wants to get you. you know that isis wants to go in and take over the vatican. you haved they' heard that. a dream -- >> talks about capitalism. you scare the pope. >> i will have to scare the pope. the pope, i hope can only be scared by god. >> is the ceiling open over here right now? >> the pope, i hope can only be scared by god. the truth is, you know, if you look at what is going on. they better hope that capitalism works. it is the only thing we have right now. it is a great thing. when it works properly. in our country, chris, it has not been working properly. >> capitalism? >> it has not been working properly. >> do you take him seriously -- >> excuse me.
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between regulation, between all of the dodd-frank, all the different things imposed we aren't competitive. we have to open up our country to great capitalism. i don't think the pope is opposed to capitalism by the way. i have seen a lot of what he is opposed to. i don't think the pope is opposed to capitalism. >> if he is. donald trump will tell him isis is coming for you. next, donald trump, the family man. how much did his wife and his kids want or not want him to make this run? and his potential first lady would be the first one ever born outside the u.s. where has she been by the way? is her absence a sign that the immigrant doesn't agree with her husband's hard line stance? ahead. ♪ a good host, is a good host
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as you see all the time politics is hard on a candidate. but you know what? it is often even harder on their loved ones. is donald trump worried about his family? where has his wife been? here are his answers. the family, your kids do great. everybody says you raised them well. they're making their own paths. have you thought about what it will mean for your kids? because you know it is a lot of -- even being trump's kid is something. do you think about this is going to be a lot on them? >> i sat down with them.
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i told them. i don't know this is months ago. >> but now you are in a different place? >> my wife said something interesting, she is my pollster. she said you not if you actually announce you are going to win. i said what? she said i see the reaction. >> a supportive partner by the way. >> it's great. either the most wonderful person. or very smart to say that. she said, you know that if you actually announce, because nobody thinks you are going to run. that's really what happened. once i announced people. they said, will he file this paper? then that paper? will he file his financials? then the financials turned out to be much bigger. they thought i wouldn't file the financials. i am very proud. i built an unbelievable company. she said to me, "you know, that if you actually announce, you know you are going to win." i said, "i don't know that." the response has been pretty amazing. >> do you think about that though? you say your wife, is she going to campaign, ready to be first lady? she has been quiet so far. >> she has been.
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purposely. i haven't asked her to do anything. she would certainly like to. ivanka, you know very well. >> ivanka could be president. >> she has a lot of respect for you. and your brother. now i am starting to worry about her. she will be fantastic. >> you think -- you put your kids out there? >> they want to beep o out ther. they believe in what i am saying. from the women's health issues standpoint, melania is unbelievable. she would want to be involved. she feels strongly. when she saw bush the other day knocking it, it really bothered her that that could happen. >> one other thing about her -- when you married her everybody said the marriage is great. you are a testament to one of the marriages seems to be working these days. when you got married, she became a citizen. she was here working legally? did she get mad at you? say hey, i came over on a visa, now you want to get rid of me? >> she went through a long
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process to become a citizen. very tough. she went through a long process to become a citizen of this country. and she thinks it is a wonderful process to go through. one of the things i want to do, i want to take in really talented people too. in silicon valley, they can't get talent. no matter what you do. you can't get talent. i want to take in people, from europe, asia, all over the world that have talent. if you graduate one in your class from harvard or wharton school of finance, yale, they throw you out. i don't want to do that. i want to keep these really talented people. let them go to silicon valley, let them go all over the place. that's what we need. i want people to come into the country. i want them to come in legally. >> i know you have a big appearance in new hampshire. talking about the drug problem. thank you for taking the time.
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this is "cnn tonight." after that interview, trump held his very first town hall in front of the cheering crowd in daring, new hampshire. listen. >> we're not going to be so politically correct anymore. we are going to get things done. we are going to make this country special. and, you know, i say sometimes that the american dream is dead, but we're going to make it bigger and better and stronger than ever before. >> what did you think of that townhall? >> his message is direct. it's obvious and it's known. and it's working with a portion of the gop. it's also not working with a portion of the gop.
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i think that's interesting context with the interview this morning. he was different than i've seen him in the past. when i said are you going to go retroactive on the anchor babies, he didn't want to answer. it's hard to be which has got him so far to this point. >> my next question, in the conversations that i've been having with viewers who notice that he's different now, do you think he feels, like, you know what, maybe i have a chance. and, before, it was just all an exercise. >> yes, and i think there's another layer. when you have no chance, you can put it on somebody else. now he's the frochblt runner. now he has something to lose that puts pressure on you to
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worry about the outcome in a way that he probably didn't before. >> he seems to be focused on hillary clinton, jeb bush. he's pretty much ignoring the other candidates that he pretty much just used to slam. >> yes, gep. and that's the reason he kbraif the first answer that he did. i thought for sure i just teed that up and he was going to whack it out of the park. he didn't. he said i'm not concerned with her yet. he was carrying himself differently. he's got a little bit of a trick in front of him. >>. >> have i gotten under jeb
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bush's skin? i don't know. i will tell you this. you mention the word skin. he said the other day, one of the dumber things i've heard ever in politics, when talking about iraq, that we, the united states, he said, have to show them that we have skin in the game. in order to go into iraq. we've lost $2 trillion, thousands of lives and he's talking about that we have to show them that we have skin in the game? >> interesting. remember after mccain, everyone said he's lost the military. he's lost the veter rans. >> his problem is that he wants to put troops in iraq.
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that's going to be a toll of blood and treasure. >> with each interview, he becomes not necessarily more reserved, but i guess he looks more like a candidate. >> tweaks. tweaks. >> he's not a different person. >> it is the top of the hour. and we're following the breaking news in chris's interview with donald trump this evening. >> let's taurk about this. jim, you first. you're a candidate. you've got a lot of experience governing and from the military. he wants to take iraq oil and give the money to the wounded warriors and family. how do you respond to that? >> i think it's superficially very atravtractive to say.