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for the first time tonight, days after tragically losing her daughter, we are hearing from alison parker's mother. alison was a beloved reporter at wdbj. she and adam ward were murdered this week, shot during a segment on live television. i sat down with barbara and andy parkerer. we spoke at length about alison and adam, their tough road ahead, and their mission to end gun violence. >> if you are a parent, if you're a mother, if you have children, can you look your child in the eye and say, we are willing to allow you to be collateral damage in order to keep what some people perceive at their constitutional rights. >> my interview with the parents of alison parker coming up at the bottom of the hour, 5:30 eastern only right here. first, we do begin this evening in textexas.
that is where people in the houston area are still shocked at the sudden and violent death of the ten-year deputy in the sheriff's department. the sheriff calls it cold blooded and cowardly and believes his deputy may have been killed simply because he was wearing a uniform. houston officials believe this is the man captured on surveillance camera ambushing deputy goforth. police are now trying to figure out what drove him to allegedly kill a deputy in a way describe z an an execution. we're live in houston this evening. ed, the details of this still coming out. no motive that i know of at this point, right, according to police? what else are they telling us about what happened and if the suspect knew the deputy at all? >> reporter: very little information in terms of motive. we'll get to that in a second. in terms of the attack happened here friday night at this gas
station that you see behind me. gas pump number eight. what we're told is that this gas station is a place where the sheriff's deputies are often seen refilling their patrol car tanks, come in for a cup of coffee and move along. it doesn't sound like it was an uncommon thing to see sheriff's deputies here in this particular parking lot, which is an interesting note. in terms of motivation, investigators have not said if the suspect in this case, 30-year-old shannon miles has given them any indication as to why he carried out this attack. by the accounts given by the investigators, it was brazen. attacked from behind, the sheriff's deputy coming back out of the convenience store and shot multiple times. and really no chance to defend himself. >> what are the people -- if we can look at the live pictures behind you in full, you see all -- dozens of people have come out and they brought balloons and flowers. what are they saying? >> reporter: it's been extremely emotional throughout the day.
there have been at least three or four sheriff's deputies out here mingling and talking with the crowd. people have been coming up and hugging them. there have been hundreds if not thousands of people who have streamed through this parking lot of this gas station over the course of the last day or so leaving the flowers and notes and messages. what is even more incredible, they have been taking up a collection for deputy goforth's wife and their two children. they have collected almost $25,000, probably much more than that by now. the last count was done quite a while ago. people have been coming by and just dropping money. i've seen people drop off hundred-dollar checks for these family members. many people coming here today will tell you, with all of the tensions, with all of the intense rhetoric surrounding police shootings, they wanted to come out here to send a sign of hope for the family of this deputy, their way of telling them that they wish them the
best. >> yeah, absolutely. it's a tragedy. live for us this evening right outside of houston. thank you, ed. an inexplicable part of this tragedy, darren goforth was not involved in any police work at the time of the ambulance. he was simply fillin up his patrol car at the gas station. consider this number. 23 police officers have been murdered in the line of duty in this country this year. cedric alexander is with me. when you look at this, you're also a long-time police officer. when you hear that, what comes to your mind? >> well, what is very striking about this case, deputy -- that particular deputy, goforth, was a ten-year veteran in that department. he was just out doing his job that night. that's all he was doing. and filling up his gas tank so he could go back out in the community and continue to work in which he was sworn to do. police officers are losing their
life in this country every day. and most often to gun violence. and the job that they do and the responsibility that they have, in spite of the ongoing criticism that police is receiving across this country, they're going to continue to do what they need to do in order to keep these communities safe. >> i had heard something that traffic stops are the sort of most deadly thing for police officers. i mean, if you think about it, i guess it makes sense. they go into traffic stops, right? you don't know who's in the car, you don't know what circumstance it's under. these are people just doing routine duty. >> right. part of any law enforcement official job is to manage traffic issues. but in this case, deputy goforth was just merely gassing his vehicle. so that was it. yeah, traffic stops are
dangerous in the sense that when that officer pulled that vehicle over, they don't know where that person is coming from or where they're going to. yes, it is very dangerous. >> what about your personal experience in uniform? you were a police officer in florida. chief of police in upstate new york. did you ever feel vulnerable, exposed just for wearing the uniform? >> we're going to wear that uniform with pride. despite of whatever the motivation might have been, we're going to continue to wear these uniforms across the country. we're going to wear them with pride. that's who we are. we represent the communities in which we serve. many of those police agencies are hundreds of years old skprks they have a lot of history. those uniforms dictate authority, leadership, they dictate community relations in which they have a great deal of pride in, that badge, that uniform. so that's not going to change. but every law enforcement officer in the country today
know that law enforcement is under a great deal of criticism. this community across this country is going to have to continue to hold up and lift their agencies up even before something bad happened. we got to continue to work together. and those out here committing these violent crimes, we going to stand together, police and community, poppy. >> we see the community standing behind him today. >> that's right. >> cedric alexander, thank you as always. up next, we go to politics and bernie sanders closing in on hillary clinton in the critical state of iowa. new numbers and a new momentum. we will speak with his campaign manager next.
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republicans. dr. ben carson with 18% support. hillary clinton has the lead still, but that lead is getting slimmer. she's now just seven points ahead of bernie sanders. one clue to sanders' success, look at that photo. it's not a photo around a rock star. that is a photo around a politician. it is from sanders' rally this month in portland, oregon. the age of the crowd, this new poll also finds in iowa that sanders leads by 23 percentage points with potential caucusgoers under the age of 45. let's talk about bernie sanders and his insurgent campaign, bernie sanders' campaign manager. thanks for being here, jeff. found iowa democrats who sanders are not launching some sort of protest against clinton. they say they are backing sanders because they like his
ideas. here's the question. what happens when you leave iowa, you head to states that aren't so rural, more diverse, maybe not so liberal, can he appeal to minorities, blue collar workers? can he get that critical vote? >> absolutely. we're gaining in iowa. the last two polls in new hampshire have us ahead in that state, which is obviously next door to vermont. we have a team on the ground in south carolina. we're reaching out to voters in south carolina, including minority voters. i'm sure you know bernie had a rally with 11,000 people in phoenix, arizona. not a blue state. we had 8,000 people out in dallas, texas. also not a blue area. 6,000 people out in houston. thousands of people, 4,000, 5,000 people out in new orleans. bernie is going from one end of this country -- he is committed to a 50-state strategy. he is going to talk to voters.
white voters, black voters, latino voters. he has a message that appeals to middle income and working people and poor people across this country. >> we've heard him talk about wage disparity. that's been a passion point for him before he started running. let's talk about guns, though. he didn't support the brady bill on gun control in the '90s. he comes from a rural state. is he out of sync with the progressive wing of his party on guns? >> if you look at his record on guns, i think you'll see he's exactly in sync with where the american people are. he supports closing of the gun show loophole that allows people to buy guns without going through a background check. he supports expanding the background check system so we make sure mentally ill people do not get their hands on guns.
and he also supports expanding mental health services. there's many people out there who cannot get the help they need and end up being involved in violent situations. if you look at his record, you'll see he's exactly in sync with voters on both sides of the aisle. >> i do want to talk about the black lives matter movement. >> sure. >> some in the movement say that the senator, senator sanders, has not talked enough about police violence, minorities. we saw what happened. you're looking at images there of some of them taking over the stage at one of his rallies in seattle, expressing not being happy with his stance. shortly after, your camp hired an african-american woman vocal for the movement. what is he doing to address that criticism? >> look, there is no candidate running for president who will be stronger on civil rights than bernie sanders. if you look at his racial
justice platform on his website, you'll see he's committed to addressing issues of institutional racism and reforming our criminal justice system. the united states of america has more people in prison, disproportionately people of color, than any country on earth, including china, which is many times our size. >> this morning, bernie sanders was on "state of the union." he laid out a litany of things that make him different from hillary clinton. i want to play you just some of those. >> sure. >> i believe along with pope francis and almost all scientists that climate change is threatening this planet in horrendous ways. and that we have to be aggressive in transforming our energy system away from fossil fuel and defeat -- and defeat the keystone pipeline that is not hillary clinton's position. i believe that as opposed to my republican colleagues who want
to cut social security, i believe we should expand social security by lifting the cap on taxable income. >> he does agree with donald trump on taxing the henl fund folks more. he went on and on. here's the thing. you can't do that without congress. what's the strategy if he is to be elected? how does he carry out all of that if president obama couldn't? >> poppy, the reality is is that this campaign is not just about bernie sanders. it is as he always says about creating a political revolution in this country with millions of people backing him. when that happens, we're not only going to elect bernie sanders president, but you're going to elect democrats to the senate, to the house, to state houses across this country. there's not a scenario where one can imagine where bernie sanders is elected president and the current congress -- >> so you're saying this sa ground swell? >> absolutely a ground swell and
it's going to carry not just bernie sanders but candidates up and down the ballot to transform america. >> this iowa poll also found in joe biden enters this race, he takes support from clinton and sanders. he takes six points from clinton, five points from sanders. what is your strategy if biden jumps? ? >> poppy, all the numbers are moving in our direction. >> no, but what's your -- i want to know what you do if biden jumps in. >> you showed the poll. what we're going to do is continue to talk about the issues that are important to voters in iowa, new hampshire and every other state across this country. that's how we're doing as well as we are and that's the strategy we're going to maintain. talking about the real issues that people are facing. >> it's nice to have you on the show. come back, sir. coming up next, an absolute tragedy at turner field in atlanta. a braves fan falling 50 feet to his death after going over a
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death of a fan at turner field yesterday. as a sold out crowd watched, 60-year-old gregory murray tumbled over a railing falling 50 feet into an empty seat. one fan described what happened next. >> people were really, really disturbed. the guy fell. he fell very hard. it was not good. they were doing cpr from the moment that they got to him and they were still doing it on him when they left. >> cnn's boris sanchez is with me now. how could this have happened? >> that's what investigators are working to piece together. an autopsy was conducted on gregory murray this afternoon. they're going to be looking at that toxicology report. they say that foul play is not suspected in the case. in the 7th inning, witnesses say gregory murray walked over to a railing to boo alex rodriguez. he was heading up to bat. at that point, he tumbled over the railing landing head first
50 to 80 feet on a terrace below him, landing on his head. paramedics rushed over to him. they rushed him to a hospital, obviously gregory murray did not make it. we're hearing from his son jason today, gregory murray was a husband, father, grandfather, son, brother, and friend to many. he dearly loved his family. atlanta and the atlanta braves. greg was a season ticketholder with the same seats for 23 yoers. the night greg passed away, he was doing one of his favorite things, watching the braves. difficult to imagine what that family's going through. >> you can't. there was talk about the game kept going on and why it kept going on. i guess they didn't realize the severity at the time. >> there was criticism from fans because there wasn't a stoppage in play. the braves came out with a statement saying they are deeply
saddened by the loss of greg murray. greg was a valued long time season ticketholder. an incredibly passionate braves fan. the thoughts and prayers of the entire braves organization continue to go out to his family and friends. just two years ago, another fan fell to his death. that case was ruled a suicide. obviously we still have to point point exactly what caused this accident. >> boris, thank you very much. coming up next, the parents of alison parker join me to remember their daughter and to talk about their mission for change. it is the first time that we are hearing from alison's mother. we will bring you our special half hour remembering alison and adam. mean ms. colegrove. but your dell 2-in-1 laptop gives you the spunk for an unsanctioned selfie. that's that new gear feeling. all laptops on sale, save $230 on this dell 2-in-1. office depot officemax. gear up for school.
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virginia will lay to rest two of their own. a photographer at wdbj television. his name is adam ward. he and reporter alison parker were out on a story wednesday morning when their lives were cut tragically short by a gunman. >> the killings captured on live television left a nation stunned in horror and disbelief. over the next few days, we saw alison's father coming to the cameras, sometimes barely making it through an interview without breaking down. her oh bit wear reading in part, she loved her job and had such a bright future ahead. she will be missed by everyone she touched and she lived life to the fullest in her short time on earth. a memorial service was held to honor both of them. colorful flowers and cards have been placed in front of their station, wdbj.
candles burning in honor of the fallen journalists. it is to that end that i would like to dedicate the nekts 30 minutes of this show to alison and adam. i had the opportunity to sit down with alison's parents earlier today. her mother, barbara, speaking to the national media for the first time. here is the first part of our conversation. >> thank you both so much for being with me today. >> you're very welcome. >> wish this were under different circumstances, but thank you. >> we all do. let me begin with you, barbara. what is your favorite memory of alison? >> oh, there are so many. she came into the world lighting up the room that she -- that she walked into. and she was full of mischief. i remember one time that we thought we had her in a place that she couldn't do anything as a child, and i came in and she had found a red magic marker and
drawn all over the coffee table and the living room and the carpet and the kitchen floor. but you couldn't be mad because this little golden girl smiling that she'd done this wonderful piece of art. and she's always been like that. she -- she was full of love and life and she was a geek at heart. which is the greatest compliment i can ever give anyone. >> barbara, tell me what is your last memory of alison? because i know it was just her birthday and you had just taken this amazing family trip to literally her favorite place in the world. >> my last memory is on -- on tuesday, i was at work. and she would always call after work on her drive home. she would call and say, just checking in. and she said, ugh, i'm so tired
after that trip because her schedule was so unusual and on our vacation, we slept in and we laughed and we ate more than we should and we had such a lovely time. and then she had to go back to the unusual schedule that she had. but she just -- she always had a smile regardless. regardless of the circumstance. and we -- i think that alison and i had a very, very unique relationship. unusual by any standards. if she was going shopping and she always said when i'd come up to roanoke with her, she said when you come up here, i end up spending money. because we would go shopping for her wardrobe that she would wear. i could tell her spot on what looked perfect on her. and what was the right thing for her to wear. and she knew it. and she respected that and
would -- she always wanted me there when she was buying her clothes. >> tell me about her drive as a journalist. because i think all of us in the business and everyone watching, it marvels at all she achieved by age 24. what drove her? >> she just -- you know, i think that's just the way she came into this world. she -- everything that she did -- everything she touched, everything -- ever activity that she picked up, she excelled at everything. i mean she -- you know, she wanted to be the best. i mean she was just extremely competitive. and whatever she did -- and maybe she -- maybe she got that from me, from dad. because if i pick up a sport or an activity and as we'll talk about later, now with this mission, you know, i want to be the best. and i've always been that way.
and it just sort of was instilled in her that, you know, you got at it. thankfully she was just gifted beyond belief. >> she was. >> she tutored calculus at james madison university. you know, how many journalism majors can tutor calculus? it was that kind of thing. she was an incredible athlete, incredible white water kayaker. she just was not satisfied with just, you know, doing something. she wanted to be the best. >> she wanted to be the best. and when she set out to do something, she meant that. she -- she wanted to be the best and never lose a race, never mess something up. she wanted everything she did to be perfect and she was driven to do that. ♪
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encyclopedia. i would have liked to have been able to talk sports with him more, but i wasn't in his league. the college football season is about to start and here he is, gone before it ever got to begin. >> adam had so much fun playing on the company softball team. adam was a lot better than i was. that's one of the reasons we won the city championship. >> pursuing his career in sports broadcasting, he had the goals and achieved them with relentless work effort and joy. >> welcome back. we continue our coverage now with our in-depth interview with the parents of alison parker, the reporter shot and murdered on live television earlier this week. barbara and andy parker are now front and center in the gun control fight, a challenge they take on wholeheartedly in the name of their daughter. >> do you find in alison's passion the strength now to
fight this fight, andy and barbara? to fight your passion, which is changing some of the gun laws in this country. >> i like to think that she got her strength from me and her passion from her father. and i always looked at her and thought, the genes just aligned and how often does that happen. and she was absolutely the best of both of us. we're both passionate about what we do. passionate about the arts. passionate about the things that we feel are right and important. and she -- she had that. she had that passion from day one. >> and now we're passionate about a new mission. that's the -- you know, it's -- it's the only thing that's giving me strength right now, to take on this cause. i know that somewhere she'd be
looking down and saying, you go, dad. you're -- you're -- this is -- this is what she would want me to do. >> i can see -- >> this is her fight. >> it is her fight. i can see alison sitting there going -- >> yeah. >> -- because that's what she'd do. it's like good job, mom and dad. we do that for her. >> i'm sorry. go ahead, poppy. >> barbara, you have said this was the happiest point in her life. she was madly in love with chris. she was working at her hometown station where she wanted to be. that was with the utmost evil stripped away from you, stripped away from your community, stripped away from this world. so i want to know more about your fight, barbara. where do you go from here? >> from here, you can't change the world in a day. i mean, that's been proven that you can't change the world in a
day. but we -- we cannot be intimidated. we cannot be pushed aside. we cannot be told that this fight has been fought before and that we're just one more grieving family trying to do something. i -- i've looked in the camera on other interviews and i've said, if you were a parent, if you're a mother, if you have children, can you look your child in the eye and say, we are willing to allow you to be collateral damage in order to keep what some people perceive as their constitutional rights? if we as a society are willing to accept that, what kind of society are we? >> on friday, i interviewed senator chris murphy of connecticut and i want to play you part of what he said to me. >> who are you talking about in congress? >> i'm talking about the entirety of congress, especially those that have stood in the way
of common sense gun measures like expanded background checks or reforms to our mental health system. the fact is when our leadership in congress stands up and says, we can't do anything, they are absolutely wrong. and i believe that we have become complicit in these murders because people listen toe highest levels of government. >> andy, i know you want to go to washington. what will you tell congress? >> well, senator murphy is absolutely correct. you know, i think -- every time there's been one of these tragedies, we all say, well, this is the tipping point something's going to get done. after newtown, after aurora, you think something's going to get done. this time, i think that the -- that the circumstances of this
tragedy, their different, they're different this time. it has been not just another, you know, well, gunman goes -- it's all horrific. but because of who alison was -- you know, she was a rock star and she had such potential behind her. alison would be really mad at me if i didn't take this on and i promise you -- and i've said this time and again -- these people are messing with the wrong family. we are going to effect a change and it's going to happen and we need people like senator murphy and governor mcauliffe who are courageous enough to stand with us. and we will effect a change. >> barbara, i'd like to read to you part of a letter from one mother to another this morning. nicole who lost her beautiful 6-year-old son dillon in the sandy hook shooting wrote an open letter this morning in the paper. it reads, i understand the overwhelming need to make
something positive come from this, the need to save lives as part of your daughter alison's legacy. i can see the shock in your eyes and the anger and grief bubbling under the surface threatening to overcome you at any time. i have insight into the journey ahead for you and can sadly say it will never get easier. but there is hope and that is what you need to hold onto. people say if sandy hook couldn't deliver a change, nothing will. i disagree. what do you say, barbara? >> i absolutely agree with that. you think that how could that many children be killed and nothing happen, for it to be ignored. what we have to do, there are people out there whose minds we will never change. they are the people that are unimportant in this fight. the people who are important are the silent majority who feel the way we do, that some kind of gun control measures are necessary.
>> even the nra -- the majority of nra membership supports reasonable closing of loopholes and making it harder for, you know, mentally disturbed people to get guns. as mark kelly mentioned -- and i know this. this is not a sprint. it's a marathon. but i'm in it for the long haul. we're in it for the long haul. i look at you and i see alison. i mean -- you know, she was -- she was, you know, like a little cyst sister of you. you could have been sisters. i think why this is different this time is that, you know, that could have been you out there and that's what i challenge the journalists. and i think that's why it's different. you guys are going to stay with us because she was one of you, she was one of the fraternity. and, you know, that's why this thing is not going to go away. that's why it's not going to be different. because she was one of you.
and poppy, it could have been you. and we don't want that to happen. we don't want another tragedy like this to happen. >> it's horrible to think that journalists have to go through the rest of their lives looking over their shoulder or wondering, is there somebody out there that's going to come after me. that shouldn't happen to anybody. to live your life in fear is not living. >> no. >> no one should have to do that. ♪ ♪ ♪ i brought in some protein to help rearrange the fridge and get us energized! i'm new ensure active high protein. i help you recharge with nutritious energy and strength to keep you active. come on pear, it's only a half gallon.
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now, more of our interview with the parents of alison parker, the reporter who was shot and killed on live television earlier this week. alison was a shining star at her station. we all remember her smile and her bubbly demeanor, but it was hard news that was her passion. she recently worked on the station's child abuse special, called childhood lost, and that's where we pick up my conversation. i know that, you know, we see all these images of her on tv. she could have a lot of fun on morning television. dressing up in kcostumes. but her heart lay with hard news, and she was working on a child abuse special called "childhood loss." i wonder what she wanted to give the world, barbara, with her stories. >> that story was especially important to her. she spent many, many hours with the little girl who was the feature that we call hope and
her adoptive mother, talking about the things she'd gone through. alison knew that she was one of the lucky ones. she had a loving family. she grew up with a lovely home, and she had what so many people do not have. she realized that. this little girl to be so eloquent and so beautiful in telling alison her story, that it broke alison's heart. but she felt like that story was so important to be told. >> and she was so -- she was so proud of it. >> very proud of it. >> she was so proud of it, and she said, dad, you know, this could be, you know, this thing could win an emmy. being the proud dad i am, you know, i posted, you know, the promo for it and i said, people watch this because it could be, you know -- this could be an emmy-award winning piece. she called me up immediately.
she was sensitive about this stuff. she said, dad, you can't say this. this is making me look like i'm bragging on myself. take that off of there right now. her ethics were, you know -- i was trying to, you know -- i was a proud dad, and still am a proud dad. she was so careful and so modest and humble. >> finally, i do want to also honor adam's family, as well. >> absolutely. >> they are grieving in their own way, but i know you've been able to spend time with them. >> yes. >> is there anything you'd like to say on their behalf or just about adam? >> we're public people. for years and years, we've been in positions where we work with the public, we talk to the public. we're comfortable talking to the media. this is how, in a large way, we deal with our aggressive, is gr telling our story. not everyone is like us. we respect adam's parents and his siblings, because they are
much more private people, and they're grieving in their own way. we are not only the spokespeople for alison, we are the spokespeople for adam, for the wdbj family. for all of the people that are suffering because of this. and anything we do is in -- not just alison's name, but in their names, also. >> please tell me about the fund that has been set up at alison's alma mater, where people can locate to help aspiring journalists. >> jmu set up a scholarship, you know, i guess it was thursday. they said, you know, when it hits $25,000, one of their largest alumni or biggest donors would match it, if it was -- if it hit $25,000. well, in less than a day, it was $25,000. now, it's $50,000. it is an endowed scholarship
that will be there in perpetuity. now, absolutely, keep contributing to that fund. there's also another scholarship fund for patrick henry community college, where she got an associate's degree. this year, she was named one of their distinguished alumni. the outpouring of love and affection has just been overwhelming, and we appreciate everyone's love and support. >> i am so sorry that i never got to meet her. but i am so glad that she had such an impression on so many, andy and barbara. thank you both. >> thank you for having us. >> thank you, poppy. >> many have asked, how can i help to remember the lives of alison parker and adam ward? go to cnn.com/impact. there, you will find the links to the alison parker fund at james madison university. the georgia tech scholarship fund in memory of adam ward. both at cnn.com/impact.
i do want to end this hour with some encouraging news about vicki gardner, the sole survivor of the shooting this week. she was being interviewed by alison on the morning of the shooting. we are told that she has been up walking around in the hospital after undergoing two surgeries for that bullet wound in her back. her husband says that bullet came within centimeters of killing her. we wish vicki all the best in her recovery. and a personal thank you from me to barbara and andy parker for taking the time to spend with us and to share those wonderful memories of their daughter. we'll be right back. no student's ever photographed mean ms. colegrove. but your dell 2-in-1 laptop gives you the spunk for an unsanctioned selfie. that's that new gear feeling. all laptops on sale, save $230 on this dell 2-in-1.
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call and upgrade to get x1 today. ♪ ♪ 6:00 eastern this sunday evening. thank you for joining me. i'm poppy harlow in new york. we begin in texas, near houston, where a sheriff's deputy was ambushed and sense lelessly kil. it's turned into a memorial. people of texas are showing their support at the gas station. the sheriff died in an attack he didn't see coming. we're live in houston this evening. also with us, law enforcement analyst tom, who served as a police officer