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. well, that does it for us. thanks for watching. "cnn tonight" with don lemon starts right now. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news, donald trump, one-on-one, right here. this "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. this is it. no holds barred. as summer heats up, the front runner is firmly in the lead in every national poll, including wide margins in two brand new online polls out today. one shows him topping the field at 29%.
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what is his path to victory? >> we're going to fight in massachusetts, new hampshire and we're going to fight in iowa, and we're going to fight in, i'll tell you what, south carolina, 30 pnt and more. south carolina is amaidsing. the way i look at it. so great. winning there, winning there, winning in south carolina. maybe, at some point, people are just going to give up. i don't know. >> again, with our breaking news. donald trump one-on-one and the candidate joins me now on the phone. >> hello, mr. trump. thank you for joining me. >> hey, let's get right to business. you put out a video on monday. he is now hitting you back as a liberal. i want to play part of it because i want you to respond. let's listen to it, please.
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>> i'm a little biassed because i know her for years. >> i know her very well. she's very talented. >> i've known her and her husband for years and i really like them a lot. >> well, you'd be shocked if i said that in many cases, i probably identify more as a democrat. so, basically, jeb bush is saying that you're not a conservative republican. >> recognize the commitment of someone who has devoted her life to public service. i want to say thank you to both secretary clinton and to president clinton. >> what does that make hillary to the bush family? >> my sister in law. >> well, look, what he did is a rather long commercial. don't forget. he's getting all of this money from people who are lobbyists
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and -- tough, tough group of people. he's got to fight back. hoe's way down on the polls. i was described in one of the magazines as a world class businessman. so as a world class businessman, i knew everybody. i had to be friendly with everybody with, you know, doing business in this country, you want to be friendly with clinton and you want to be friendly with everybody. i would help people and i would get along with people. to my company, to my family, to everybody i owe that. ifgs part of the group that is would contribut to a guy like jeb bush, who's a nice guy, by the way chlts when jeb is paying for these adds and they want him to do something like this, i'd get along with everybody. now i'm a different world. i'm sort of a politician, i
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guess you could say: as you can see from the polls, we're doing well because people are tired of politics as such. and one other thing i'll say, in new york city, everybody was a democrat, practically. if you run for city council. if you run for office, whoever wins the democrat primary is automatically -- there was almost no election. well, that's where i was. he was actually done -- he was a democrat with a very liberal event. and then he became a republican with a somewhat conservative republican. >> mr. trump, that's the first time i've ever heard you call yourself a politician. did you ever consider yourself a politician. >> >> i hate to do it. i've never been.
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i've only been a politician for three months: >> were you a democrat at that point? when you said that? >> well, as one point, i was a democrat, for a period of time. and, over the years, as ronald changed, i've also changed. you change and some people come the other way. now i am, actually, a politician whether i like it or not. >> let's get to one quick theme. one more short kperpt. i want to give you a chance to respond to this, as well. here it is. >> i lived in new york city in
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manhattan all of my life. so my views are a little bit different than if i lived in iowa. >> the question is, because of the ied want polls, you're leading in the pools. there's some saying that you're tied with ben carson. are you worry that had people might see it as a bit of an insults? >> no, i don't mean it as an insummit. but it is somewhat different but my relationship with the people of iowa has been great. >> two weeks ago, we were in alabama. we had 30,000 people in a
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stadium. >> when you see that many people, what do you think? >> i like the idea of a deal, but they should have doubled up the sanctions for another month. if somebody attacks iran, we have to come to their defense. and i say does that include israel? and most people say yes. so if israel attacks iran according to that deal, i believe, unless they have a codicil or something to it, that we'll have to fight with iran
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against israel. now you tell me. how could you possibly sign such a thing. >> i know you've heard the criticism and people out there saying it is a dog whistle to some sort of racist intent behind it. can you respond to that? >> i think the phrase that they're talking about is the obvious majority.
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>> they say're not so silent anymore. they're upset and they don't like what's happening with our trade deals. they don't like, as i said, what's happening with iran and that horrible deal that was made by a buchblg of way byes. these are people who don't know the first thing about negotiation. we're giving them $115$150 mill plus, plus, plus, and nobody can understand why we can't negotiate a better deal than that. and i can understand that. that's ne goish yating 101, there's no way that that dweel should be approved. >> you just noted that ben carson is running neck-in-neck.
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are you surprised by this poll and his popularity? >> well, i was a little surprised to see it. when i was first done, before i announced, i was sort of at a low number because nobody was going to run. when i did it, now, because i had the biggest surge of all, in your professional, and i went up to 23 and ben's doing nicely, too. >> i ushltly go after people -- i'm more of a counter puncher. you know, jeb went after me and, if you know, perry went after me and i went after him.
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and the other one would be lindsay graham. perhaps i did a better job than they did. and they all went down. you know, ben and i have gotten to know each other over the years. i like him. i don't know. i can't tell you what's going to happen. i really don't know. you know, politics is a very strange thing and a very strange place that you end up in. akd i can tell you that he's somebody i like on a personal basis. >> when we come back, why he thinks a lot of democrats will vote for him. points, points, our points.
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donald trump's surge shows no signs of tapering off. >> you have turned your face-to-face rabblety numbers around. with the majority having a positive view now, do you worry that they increase negative attacks on you?
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they said it was one of the biggest turn arounds that this body has ever seen. i'm good at what i do. i will not let china, japan, mexico both at border and at trade o trade. i'm going to rebuild our military. we're going to make it big again and strong again. if you make it strong and really strong, nobody's going to want to abuse us. people see what's happening with obamacare. you look at your premiums, they're going through the roof.
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look at the deductibles now. when people look at me and see me speak, hey, you know, it's one of those things mp. i'm very honored by it. i know that you met privately with the head of the department that did. >> we had very nice
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conversation. i've employed tens of thousands over my career. this has nothing do with hispanic. they may come from the middle east or lots of other people. we had a great conversation and it will continue. that's sitting right in front of you, i guess. i think i'm going to win with hispanics. actually, the people that live here, hispanics that are legal,
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that came in through the long, hard process they absolutely have a great feeling about me. and i have a great feeling about that. it has to be real immigration, not illegal immigration. >> i was misquoted by the press all over the place. now, you had things happen after i announced and after i brought it to the floor. one of the things was kate. beautiful kate killed in san francisco. other people killed. even the woman two weeks ago in california who was a 66-year-old veteran who was raped and killed and tortured and everything else.
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66-year-old veterans. a lot of things have happened. you see the kind of grime that we're talking about. i've had people in your profession quietly apologize for me for what happened. if you could go back, would you amend those statement sns. >> i'd like to clear up context and people to get on the record. is it true that you joke that you don't need the hispanic vote? as a nominee, if you did, indeed, how would you win the general election? >> no, i never said i done need the hispanics. i will say this, though.
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when mitt romney ran, there was tremendous millions of people that were con servetive republicans and evangelicals. i think i'll have a lot of democrats. reagan had a lot of democrats. i think i will have a lot of democrats voting for me, for more than any republican for a long period of time. i will say this. had they been energized and had they voted, you would have seen victory for mitt romney.
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>> and there's lots more to come. up next, he tells me who he wants to tag, how he will take on china and if he's changed his mind on campaign fund raising. ♪ ♪ (dorothy) toto, i've a feeling we're not in kansas anymore... (morpheus) after this, there is no turning back. (spock) history is replete with turning points. (kevin) wow, this is great. (commentator) where fantasy becomes reality!
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he's the man to reform taxes in this country. but how he plans to do it may surprise you. >> this is something that some people don't think is a conservative issue that you've waited on. i was surprise today hear you say it. >> what you're saying is very different. i know the hedge fund guys. they're all supports bush and hillary clinton. and some of the other candidates. i won't take their money. i turned down millions of dollars. fundraisers. everybody wants to have
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fundraiser ifs for me. i turned down millions and millions of dollars where all i have to do is go to somebody's house and have a fund raise. part of the reason that people are general rating toward me is the reason i'm not doing it. i just hope the voters apprecia appreciate it. i eend spending a lot of my own money. you see every one of these guys, most of their time is consumed by doing fundraisers. every time i do a fundraiser,
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they're bought and sold by the people who put up money. >> my question is do you think that you could win a republican primary. >> we're losing all of our jobs. you have a terrible thing happening right now. corporate inversion. we have $2.5 trillion, at least, out. where company haves the money out. we have $2.5 trillion outside the country. they can't get the money inside this country because the taxes.
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it's called corporate inversion. take a look at it. to me, it's a very big thing. it used to be state-to-state. now they're leaving the united states for another country and we're losing tremendous companies and we're losing a tremendous number of jobs: >> again, you think you can win the primary by proposing to raise taxes? >> i'm not guilty raising staxs. the middle class is getting clobbered. >> but isn't that raising taxes
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on the weltiest of americans? >> you rorted it incorrectly. we have to simplify the tax code. we're losing our middle class. they're getting wiped outment. >> as i am interviewing you now, i just got a note that says stocks took a nose dive. more concerns about china. >> they've said sdis tur bans.
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>> i get along with china great. i do business with china. china knows i know what i'm talking about. look, china has taken advantage of the united states to a point that you cannot understand. it's one of the -- they've drained our jobs, they've drained our money. they've taken so much from us and they don't even like us. we will turn that around. >> how would you calm the mar t markets now and keep the economy going right now.
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right now, you need better trade deals. we're so woven to china and other places, and i've been saying this. i believe in free trade. look at the cars we sell them. they sell us beef. it has to be fair, don.
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on top of everything else, we owe china $1.4 tril yoen. it's the same exact amount. now, you said you don't want to be beholden to any dollar. are you 5:00 septembering donations? he's a very good guy. he's up there in massachusetts and they had 2,000 people and somebody put out a sign to defer costs for, i thought it was for him because i assumed he was paying for it. i don't know. who do i know in? but they had a thing that was
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devoers fir us. you're talking about peanuts. now, most of the people came in for free. they had a choice of coming in for free or making a contribution. the donation was to help defray om so some of the costst for him. >> it gets to be too complicated because people don't know a difference between making the contribution to defer cost. i'm gist going to pay for the whole 24i7k myself. you get story that is are false stories. and, yet, sdsh okay.
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all right. so no more fundraisers throughout this campaign? >> no, i'm not going to do it. >> no. now, i have to say this, with all of that being said, many people have five or six packs. i've had nothing to do with dhem. >> i can't help if somebody forms a pac. i have nothing to do with it. but that's the crazy law we have right now.
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i think there's five or six pacs already. and, purposely, i'm not speezed to talk to those people and i don't. >> just before we move on, are you going to 5:00 september donations, large donations? small donations? they want to be a part of et. and i love that. that's not influence. that's not a lobbiest. give me $5 million that's people that want to invesz in the campaign. that, i happen to love. i think it's a really good thing.
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that kind of stuff, i do like. frankly, i think it's insulting when they send in a check of $10 and $19 and we send it back. we don't want your money. it's almost an insult to them. that kind of money we accept. >> the charge that he uses on twitter to go after his "enemy's twitter to go after his "enemy's list" h fortunately, mhave found a different kind of medicine that lowers blood sugar. imagine what it would be like to love your numbers. discover once-daily invokana®. it's the #1 prescribed in the newest class of medicines that work with the kidneys to lower a1c. invokana® is used along with diet and exercise to significantly lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes.
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impression of you? >> well, he was trying to be cute and he's trying to be funny and he's out there pitching. he's trying to get on to the main stage and doesn't have a lot of time to do it. >> i actually found it to be funny. >> this is usa today. we'll put the quote up. i don't want to read the whole thing. are american voters spending this evening rather than say working his way on how to defeat the islamics. and then it goes on. this is a longer statement, but do you ever think when you're about to tweet, maybe i shouldn't say that or, you know, mr. trump, take your hands off the keys? >> look,i eat tweet and i'll have fun with it. i have more than 4 million on
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twitter. they're comparing you to richard nixon saying you have an enemy's list. >> i have many in your profegsz who i know are very dishonest people. so what twitter allows me to reveal when somebody is dishonest. ewe do have dishonest people. when we called them on it, they actually practically admitted that they knew what they did was wrong. so you have a lot of very dishonest people. i would say this with twitter, with facebook, with all of that stuff. it gives you, not just me, it gives people a voice.
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and it's something i think very reassuring. >> there's been a situation in illinois with the police officers. >> what do you make of that? do you believe that is true? >> i believe the police are in a terrible pox. they're such great people and, yes, you do have your bad apples. what's happening with the police, a place i knew well and know well. you doffered it very brilliantly. the police stood back. what's hamming now is the flis are some amazing people, so
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they're afraid to act and they're afraid to do what's right. and people want protection. the people want the protection. and the respect is to take it away from the police. it's a very bad thing for security and safety. >> do you think that wauz you talked about the black lives matter who interrupted bernie stabdsers. >> i think it was terrible when they took the microphone away from him. he was out of order.
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by the end of three or four minutes, he was likable. i thaugt it was terrible that berni sanders allowed that microphone to be ripped out of his hand. to me, it showed complete weakness. all i know is that the police are tremendous people. and, yes, you will have some bad ones as you do it in any profession. you know, any walk of life. but the police are tremendous people. they do, overall, a tremendous job. and they have to be allowed to do their job. >> thank you. >> thank you very much, don. >> up next, reaction to don trump. cnn has anow nounsed new rules
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. bit of breaking news for you tonight.
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this could open the door to join the other candidates. joining me now, is washington times columnist and republican strategist rick wilson. rick, i know you were hanging on every word of the interview. so is there anything that jumps out to you? >> the guy is going to say what he's going to say. it's like he's paid by the word. it doesn't have to make any sense. it doesn't have to hang together. his supporters are locked in together. that 20, 25%. they don't care what he says. >> you can take a 35 minute interview and there was nothing positive or informative that you found in anything that he said? well, he rents banks building to chinese banks.
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i just -- the -- you know, there are always insights into the way the guy thinks. he's your cranky uncle at thanksgiving or the world bank or the imf. it's a very strange sort of parochi parochial, old fashioned view of the world and the international economy. and this thing, i'm going to bring back the jobs from china. >> here in america, i don't think it would be a $2 an hour job. >> right. then your iphone costs $4,000. >> yeah, well, we'll see. charles, trump thinks democrats will support him. he talked about reagan a lot. they were the same as it was in 1980, does he have a point there.
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i think he said it very well. the guy just doesn't get off message. he can't be blown off message with dynamite. it does get repetitive for somebody who's listening. and i think that, you know, along with that feud listic, the willingness to -- he was talking about how he's more of a counter puncher? yeah, i guess, but that counter punch is withdrewal. and people are digging this. they love it. when he goes on the attack after either, you know, hillary clinton or jeb bush or anybody,
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it's just merciless. >> i want to get this in. this is our breaking news. rule change for qualifying for september 16th to include all candidates who crack the top 10 after august 6. do you like this decision, rick? i love this decision. i think it's going to absolutely bring one of the star -- if donald trump wasn't in the race, she is a rock star. a rising power house in this campaign. she's the most on-message. she really deserved that spot on the stage.
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>> charles, it's not guaranteed. >> no, but i think it's interesting when you look at the top two spot right now in iowa and two of the strongest camps as well as carlie from nowhere a couple weeks ago, three people who are not politicians. rick, who's not going to like this? >> looks like now chris christie will fall out of the top ten. i don't think he's going to be very pleased with that.
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he views himsz as a guy with stature. wow, we shall see. thank you, gentlemen. >> thanks, don. >> we'll be right back. we were in a german dance group. i wore lederhosen. so i just started poking around on ancestry. then, i decided to have my dna tested through ancestry dna. it turns out i'm scottish. so, i traded in my lederhosen for a kilt.
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that's it for us. thanks for watching. see you back here tomorrow night. "ac 3 6 0" right now. >> good evening. thanks for joining us. tonight, another plir shot and killed in the line of duty. right now, a massive man hunt underway for his killers. charles joseph gliniewcz, friends called him joe, some of his friends called him "g.i." joe.