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directly from high school to the nba. malone was just 60 years old. he died in his sleep. he played 20 seasons for the philadelphia 76ers. thanks so much for spending the day with me and john berman out in california. the next hour of the newsroom begins right now. hi, everyone. thank you so much for being with me. it is 5:00 here this sunday evening on the east coast. up first tonight, presidential politics and the candidates out in full force ahead of a highly anticipated event in the race for the republican nomination. in just three days, the republican nominees will square off in scenic simi valley, california right here on cnn. the setting, the ronald reagan presidential museum and library. crew members hard at work getting the stage ready right
next to air force one, the retired presidential plane. kpmt this debate to have plenty of fireworks. 15 candidates going out on the sunday talk shows this morning on full attack mode. first up, donald trump center stage and still dominating the polls. >> well, i'm a deal maker. i'll make great deals for this country. ben can't do that. ben's a doctor and he's not a deal maker. >> i'm gratified to see that so many people are starting to listen to what i'm saying and evaluating it on its merits as opposed to listening to what people have portrayed me as saying. >> it's about five months out. we've got the time to make the grass roots connections and get that message out. >> i have no doubt i could come down to congress, not cave like other people have done, and get the job done. >> just some of what we heard this morning. over the next two hours, we have all the political angles ahead
of the big debate. our correspondents, contributors including debate moderator jake tapper. let's go straight to california. that's where we find brook baldwin. hi, brook. >> i am full on geeking out right now. i don't know if you can tell. but i mean, i hit the ground here in california on friday afternoon, poppy. you would love this. i will enjoy this extra for you, my friend. being here in simi valley, flanked by the mountain rage to my left. i walked around the area where the debate stage is set. let me just say just the history, walking through air force one, a little bit of ronald reagan trivia, he was a big birthday guy. any time a member of the press was on air force one and have a birthday, he would always have a cake on the ready for them. forgive me, i'm geeking. back to what's happening this
coming wednesday. one of the things we'll be watching for is the tone of the candidates. this morning on cnn's "state of the union" reince priebus was asked about that very same thing and whether he thought all the -- listen, this has gotten extraordinarily personal, all this negative rhetoric would hurt the party's chance to win the white house. here's what he said. >> the way you communicate in tone and very important. sometimes it's not what you say, it's how you say it. i think all of our moms have told us that. but, look, all these candidates are going to have to account for their own mouths and their own words. >> reporter: listen, tone, not the only issue that could be problematic for some of these candidates come wednesday night. another issue potentially for the rnc. two candidates have now come forward and have said they will not support donald trump if he is the eventual nominee.
pataki tweeting this this morning, says, let me be very plain, i am not going to vote for donald trump. he is unfit to be president. he goes on, i would hope that every one of my fellow candidates will stand up and say our party cannot nominate donald trump to which trump responded, he jumped on twitter this morning, why is someone like george pataki who registered zero in the polls allowed on the debate stage. trump went onto tout his record during an interview for cbs's "face the nation". >> i've created a tremendous company. i have some of the greatest assets in the world. to be honest with you -- i'm not saying that to brag. i'm just saying that's the kind of mind set that our country needs. >> reporter: all this drama comes after the rnc got all the republican candidates, remember, to sign this loyalty pledge stating they would not mount a
third-party run if they lost out on the party's nomination. we should mention here, there will be one fewer candidate on the stage on a couple buildings away from me for the so-called happy hour debate. that airs at 6:00 before the prime time debate two hours later at 8:00. that is texas governor rick perry bowing out friday because of poll numbers and financial issues with his campaign. that is some news we wanted to get to you. to cnn political director who has been here in simi valley for the last couple of days. i know we're going to get to your cheat sheet, but we need to geek out together. just to see the setup, to see air force one, everything you guys have set up is truly phenomenal. >> it will be no doubt a f fantastic evening. i went to go visit ronald reagan's grave site.
it's just out back here in the libra library. you read his quotes and you think, this really is the father of the modern republican movement. all the issues that are going to be debated here, he is the revered figure in the party. it's the perfect place to be for this debate. >> with your cheat sheet, if we had to think of three things that you will be watching for, what is number one? >> number one is trump versus the field. you were pointing to governor pataki and bobby jindal's tweets this morning. every candidate has to figure out what is their approach about donald trump. do they want to link arms with him and they also have to prepare for the counter punch. donald trump has said that is what he does best. so i think everyone on that stage has to figure out how to have a moment connected to the conversation and as you know, the entire conversation of this campaign right now is about donald trump. >> it's so true.
jeb bush wished it weren't. we saw him with the superman move and the t-shirt on underneath. i don't know if that will be happening here wednesday night. item number two? >> jeb's fortitude. this is a big jeb bush debate. he's going to be tested for his own strength. does he have the ability to stand up next to donald trump and take him on? as you know donald trump has been relentless in his attacks against jeb bush. jeb bush shied away during this first debate and that caused a lot of concern inside his land of supporters. in the last couple weeks, jeb bush has been taking on donald trump rhetorically on the trail. >> we're talking inches away. i was standing on the stage -- >> he's got to prove that he is willing not just to advocate for his own candidacy, but actually take on the trump attack. >> do you think they'll look
each other in the eye? >> i don't know. >> item number three is -- >> is the fiorina factor. she's on the big kids stage. she had a superb debate last anytime on the undercard. i think having the only woman on stage and a fierce political fighter. that is what carly fiorina is. she does not take it from anybody. i think her energy, the fact that she's the only woman and the new element on the stage is like watch out for what the carly fiorina factor is. >> and just to quickly add onto all of that, walking around this area, this is not like the big cleveland cavalier arena. this is much more intimate. you have, what, 500 people and there are people sitting 5 feet from those candidates. so intimate and quiet. >> it is intimate, it is quiet. which doesn't necessarily match their goals in the moment of what they need to accomplish. in what has been a pretty noisy
campaign so far. now to calibrate in that intimate setting will be an interesting test for them. >> pressure's on. we'll be here. at the bottom of the hour, jake tapper, who is moderating this whole thing, takes us back inside the library as to how the stage, how it's getting set for wednesday night. for the meantime, poppy, back to you. >> you guys make a great geek out team, brooke. i feel like you're going to sleep at the reagan library you're so excited to be there. >> totally. >> brooke's going to be live with me from the reagan library tonight for the next two hours. but let's talk a little bit more about the debate, what's at stake. with me here in new york, contributing editor of the atlantic and the national jurn. also in dallas, cnn political commentator ben ferguson. thank you for being with me. these candidates, all of them praising ronald reagan.
every time they get a chance, they seem to want to be the next reagan, right? even down to jeb bush. take a look at that. who has tried to down play his family connections at times revealing that old reagan bush t-shirt from 1984. but is donald trump the candidate making the most obvious effort to align himself with reagan jumping from hollywood really if you will and to politics trying to reach the highest office in the land when critics, even carly fiorina calling him an entertainer. is that a fair comparison? >> i think it's a somewhat flawed comparison. reagan was a stalwart of the conservative movement really going back to 1964 when he burst onto the scene. >> right. >> he was someone who was very aligned i'd logically for a long time. yes, he was an entertainer. but he had decades of being in republican politics. what makes trump so unusual, he has no history really with the
conservative movement. >> used to be -- >> used to be a democrat. up until very recently he had a lot of liberal positions. reagan was very scripted guy. trump is completely unscripted. no one has any idea what's going to come out of his mouth. >> which makes compelling television. ben, i do want to ask you specifically about this. you heard before with brooke that sound bite from reince priebus this morning responding to jake tapper's question to him about the comments especially from donald trump about immigrants and hispanics in this country. priebus said, look, the candidates are going to have to be held accountable for their own words. are republicans in danger do you think in the long term of not getting the traction they need with hispanics? >> no, i think donald trump is at risk with that specific question, but not the rest of
the field. donald trump is his own guy in a very weerld, unique way. he's not defining the republican party. he's not the center of the republican -- when he comes on stage, he doesn't even know i think half the time what he's going to say. which is why people like him because he's so real, raw, and doesn't seem like a scripted politician. it's played to his advantage. he's mastered that, i'm not your normal politician. but i don't think he's -- i don't think anyone that's looking at donald trump is thinking, gosh, is it donald trump or these other nine people? they're all so similar. they're not similar. they're drastically different. >> let me get -- >> ben consider son is a great example. >> sure, they are drastically different. let me ask you about this. peter, you wrote this fascinating article a few years ago for the daily beast. you argued that ronald reagan would have a tough time winning the republican nomination today.
because as president he actually grew the federal government, he raised taxes several times, he also signed the 1986 immigration bill which essentially gave amnesty to 2.7 million immigrants in this country. do you think republicans have forgotten all of those key things that the reagan presidency stood for. >> yes, he was a conservative. but he was not doctrine in the way republicans are being forced to be now. he also nominated two of the three supreme court -- o'connor was very unpopular among conservatives. and two of the three people he appointed voted to uphold abortion rights. although he talks in very conservative ways, har conning back to a traditional 1950s america, americans liked social security and medicare, they didn't want the government to mess with it. they didn't want the government to get them into any new wars.
reagan had an appreciation for where the country actually was. i think some of these republicans today focused on pleasing certain interest groups they've lost that. >> we'll be watching what happens. ben, i need -- >> they all want to be reagan. >> we will leave it at that. as always, gentlemen, thank you very much. you will not want to miss the gop presidential debate. the candidates facing off in back-to-back debates. it is wednesday night, september 18th at 6:00 and 8:00 p.m. we'll be right back.
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the spotlight. the last place she wants to be is to have this very, very difficult decision that no one wants to have. that is choose your job or choose your faith. >> do you worry about any potential conflict tomorrow when she reports to work? >> essential i do worry about that. we spent a lot of time with kim, and she's an amazing individual. she is someone who loves people. she loves god. she doesn't want to be in this situation. >> i should note under current kentucky state law, the authority to issue marriage licenses rests solely with each of the states 120 county clerks. that means it would take an act of a legislature to transfer authority away from kim davis. the legislatudggislature there convening until january 25th. a lot riding on wednesday's debate. brooke baldwin in simi valley,
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ronald reagan presidential library in california's stunning simi valley. the debate stage, take a look at that. crews working hard around the clock. in the backdrop, something pretty amazing. the boeing 707 that served as air force one during ronald reagan's term in office. facing the candidates on that stage, jake tapper will moderate the debate. brooke baldwin is there and loving every minute of it. >> you guys can make fun of me all you want, geeking out here and getting excited. we're three days away. we've been talking about it so much. just walking around and seeing where all 11 candidates will be seated and much more intimate situation. 500 people seated. i should mention, there are some of the front row seats. you're 5 feet from the candidates come wednesday. we'll be watching. i have cnn politics executive
editor mark preston with me now. just first and foremost, before we get into scott walker, impressio impressions? >> first of all, the weather is beautiful. what a site to have a presidential library on top of a hill just looking out. it's gorgeous. quite frankly, inside outdistances what we're seeing out here. >> the people who have come here -- >> everything. amazing. >> let's talk about governor scott walker. republican governor of wisconsin. this is typically a blue state. union buster. so he's taken on the recall challenge, weathered through that. when you look at him in the polls, though, he's slipping. so he's sixth nationally. ten when you look at how he's doing in iowa. he talked to us on "state of the union." he said, listen, i have to step it up. >> this election seems to be at least right now about embracing outsiders, republicans liking donald trump and dr. ben carson and carly fiorina, people who
have never before held elective office. we just saw governor rick perry, the longest serving governor in texas history drop out. you have spent a lifetime working in politics and government. why should voters and how are you going to convince them that you're the right choice when they're desperate for somebody who is not part of politics in government? >> because they actually want someone who can get the job done. all these other folks can talk all they want. barack obama had never been in government before. i've run things. i've actually got things done. if you want someone who will fight and win. not just win three elections in four years in a blue state like we did. but win and get results without compromising common sense conservative principles, then i'm the candidate. >> i want to loop back in a second to his point about the electorate has spoken. but in terms of being
aggressive, taking on let's just say it, drurp directly, we see how other candidates have faired and thus their poll numbers. should he do that, do you think? >> only if he's directing attacking him. the bottom line is, i don't think republican voters are looking for somebody to take on donald trump as they are to show some leadership and be forceful about it. we saw carly fiorina back in the first debate in august. that's why she moved from the smaller debate up to the prime time debate on wednesday night. she showed she had leadership and was forceful. donald trump's candidacy has been fueled by his ability to try to be stronger than everyone else. >> it's gotten totally nasty and personal in the back and forth. for the most part, they've played nice. i can recall rand paul trying to jump in. but i think wednesday will be a total flip of that. >> there are going to be certain
moments throughout the night where you're going to see the likes of jeb bush who has been under a barrage of criticism of donald trump. carly fiorina has said that she is going to go after donald trump. in some ways, you can do it. but i don't think you're going to be successful, certainly the likes of john kasich and scott walker, you're going to lose. let me play a little bit more sound from governor walker this morning. jake tapper was asking about appealing to the electorate. as i mentioned, those polling the best right now are really the outsiders. here's what he told jake. >> the biggest thing is just -- last time around i waited until questions came to us. i think we're going to step it up and be more aggressive this time. >> step it up. it's the same sort of theme of aggression. >> what's interesting about the donald trump criticism, he said
it about ben carson the other day, low energy. scott walker was low energy in the last debate. he is supposed to be the outsider politician. at least he portrayed himself to be, that would come to washington and shake things up. you look at scott walker and i think you walked away from that debate in august disappointed. he needs a moment to show that he can advocate conservative values. >> do not forget this coming wednesday night the republican presidential candidates facing back-to-back debates. make sure you watch here the first debate at 6:00, then the biggie at 8:00 here on cnn. we'll be right back. i have type 2 diabetes.
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syria, there is a growing debate in israel about what should be done. >> reporter: refugee loaded trains running again in europe. a traumatic reminder of a nightmare childhood for one girl. she was born in rumania in 1940. >> we in the '30s and '40s found all the gates closed in front of us. when you see the scenes of what has happened at the train station in budapest, you can't forget the trains that led the jews to their death. >> reporter: she remembers her family being forced from their home when she was a little girl and years of hiding in terror from the nationzinazis. she looks at pictures from 70 years ago and shutters. she's one of a growing number of holocaust survivors to take in refugees. why does it strike such a cord with holocaust survivors?
>> i think many of them have been traumatized by the kind of pictures they've seen, by the number of people op the roads with babies, certainly the picture of that baby dead on the beach is something which has been a wakeup call to many. >> reporter: there's been a growing debate within israel about whether to take in any refugees since israel and syria share a tense border. prime minister benjamin netanyahu says it would threaten israel security. >> translator: israel is a small country that lacks demographic and geographic depth. therefore we must control our borders both against illegal m migrants and terrorism. >> reporter: when jews speak of the holocaust, they often say never again. she says for that to mean something, never again has to apply to every one. cnn, tel-aviv. >> thank you for that report. i want to bring in now a woman
who came to this country as a refugee from bosnia in 1998. joining me from massachusetts, thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me, poppy. >> you are currently a student at harvard and you and your friends started this group, this twitter campaign, facebook campaign that i saw actually traveling overseas last week. and the hash tag is, i was also a refugee. what is it about, what does it mean to you? >> that's right, poppy. so again, we also were inspired just about a week ago seeing those images coming from europe to do something. and being three former refugees ourselves, you know, and knowing the stories of many other refugees in our communities, we thought that it's important to share our stories. the reason being that often refugees are viewed as a burden, a potential burden on society, people who come to, you know,
take something for free. and we just know from our experiences and our families' experiences that that's not the case. surely many refugees need help in this beginning. but if given a chance, these are people who work hard to build their livelihoods and their lives again. >> i want to hear a little bit about your personal story coming from bosnia after the war tore apart that country. combing here to oakland, california in 1998. you talk about your family coming over. tell us what it was like for you personally. >> that's right. i came here as a teenager. i was 15 years old. my mom came here with my brother and i and really just two bags full of clothing and nothing else. we had no family in the united states. and so they housed us under their roof for the first couple of weeks and then, like you
said, you know, we were on government food stamps and welfare, but that only lasted about six months on so. soon after that, all three of us started to work. my mother was working two jobs as a nurse assistant. my brother and i were both in high school at the time but working nights and weekends to make sure we made ends meet. even within the first year or two, we even paid back the air fare that was sponsored for us by the u.n. agency that brought us here to the united states. >> wow. now you're at harvard. one of your friends that started this with you i believe working for nasa. you make the point that you don't have to go to harvard and be getting your doctorate and achieve all this. >> that's right. there are many people former refugees that i know, some of whom started small businesses as electricians or contractors, as
photographers. others are contributing in science, in the arts, in sports. others are just living happy, normal lives and are building their families. i mean, i think that, again, you know, refugees just like any part of society come in many different flavors. but i think the main point is that almost none of them expect to get by for free and that many of these people work hard and often twice as hard because they really start from nothing to be able to -- and don't expect much -- to be given something for free, but rather to work for it. >> so important to put a face to it. look at all that you have accomplished since coming to this country. thank you so much. i appreciate you being with us, telling your personal story. i do want to point people again to the facebook page where they can learn more #ialsowasa refugee. thank you. coming up next, fortune's
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in the past year. she took over the job and then immediately after sort of inherited the crisis. it wasn't under her watch but the way she led the company out of it, still dealing with it but the way she dealt with the recall and the way she is contrite and immediately took responsibility and kind of exemplary leadership. >> you talk about how so many of these women lead traditionally male-led business, lockheed martin, hp, general motors, et cetera. a lot of them steering companies through crises. >> when we started to do the lists the women were in media, advertising or beauty business. those are big businesses but what we have seen over time is they are running -- like you said, lockheed martin t general dynamics, hp. the biggest giant industrial companies and many of them, as you say are leading them through incredible crises, especially this year.
ellen coleman of dupont. mary barra, pepsi. >> the youngest woman on the list is taylor swift. it is not about popularity. is this because she took on spotify? she took on apple and won. she changed apple's policy. >> that's right. nobody stands up 0 to apple -- i watch withed a documentary about apple. i was thinking about this today. we don't normally put an artist on the list because these are normal clily executives running businesses. but because of the leadership, standing up against spotify, forcing apple's hand and becoming the voice for artists taking control in the music industry. >> and whole 25 years old. >> exactly. wow. >> of these women on the list, who do you see who might run for president? one day, not in 2016, per se. >> the truth is any of them
could do it. it's the way they lead that is incredible. they are all running enormous businesses. an obvious name long discussed as political potential. i think she is reassessing everything in the wake of her tremendously almost unimaginable loss of losing her husband this year. she was chief of staff to larry somers, incredibly connected in silicon valley and beyond. hosts world leaders all the time. she has been an activist for the voice of women. she's one name who's been much buzzed about for years to enter in the political sphere. i like a lot of their stories. ceo of xerox has a compelling personal story, raised by a single mother in the po projects of new york city in public housing and aiding obama on his export council.
running his stem initiative, things like that. any of them could do it. >> fascinating, reading the new edition of "fortune." thank you very much. >> thank you, poppy. sticking with politics, 15 gop candidates have a chance to change their fortunes and help their party over the white house. will they chain the negative tone or get nastier? you heard trump say the other day he is being nice. we'll talk about it next. if i want to go up...
>> i'll finish the race. >> robert is still loving the ride and learning to cook healthier food. >> it is a work in progress but nothing burned out so that is good. >> erica moore has dropped weight, stopped drinking and signing up for more triathletes. >> i got in the zone and feel like away awakened the triathlete in myself. >> last but not least. prk hd candidate jeff says despite the challenges he's determined to get to the finish line. >> i'm going to do it. anything i put my mind to do i do. >> all in all, the team is looking good. i will see you guys at the starting line. dr. sanjay gupta, cnn, reporting. >> hi, everyone. 6:00 eastern this sunday