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a customer, seeing a smile on their face. together, we're building a better california. filling in for jake taper on the lead 4:00 p.m. eastern. i will see you in between the two debates and afterwards you can see the latest developments and of course the big night. "cnn tonight" with don lemon starts now. >> donald trump gives a speech with a world war ii battleship as a backdrop and literally throws his hat into the ring hours before the debate. here's trump speaking to a cheering crowd on the battleship uss iowa in southern california tonight. >> quit doing something special. this is a movement. we are going to make our country
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great again. believe me, we will make our country great again. >> but on the eve of a cnn/gop debate, dr. ben carson has moved closer than ever to trump. trump at 27%, carson behind him at 23%. it's all on the lean tomorrow night. let's get right to it. sarah murray is at the uss iowa for us tonight. a very high profile event on the eve of this debate, how did it go for donald trump? >> reporter: you know, donald trump was definitely rallying the crowd here on the uss iowa. there was a little awkwardness a few hundred feet away. there were some vocal protesters saying donald trump is a racist. can you hear that aboard the ship. a stark contrast. this is more than a national security speech. we did not hear a lot of specification. the crowd liked how he would
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reform the va. he had a strong military if he were president he talked a lot about immigration, which a number of people do view as a security issue f. you board that ship and you walked away with a very favorable impression even though it was light on specifics. >> reporter: sarah, what can you tell about the event? it's a joint campaign and fundraiser for a vets group, right? one vet group? >> reporter: yeah, the vote strong for america held the event. the chairman endorsed donald trump while aboard the vote. he said they don't usually do that, the 2016 is too important not to take a stand. that's what he was saying. it was a fundraiser essentially for this vet's group. they charge anywhere from $100 to$1,000. if you are an active member of the military, it was free for you. >> he opened with comments about
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the va. let's listen. >> the veteran's hospitals, obviously, they have problems. they're not properly run. when you have to wait long hours and long days and then in some case versus the doctor say, i'm sorry, i'm going on vacation, believe me, it doesn't get much worse than that. so we're going to create a whole new system. we're going to take this system apart and if they're not doing the job the veterans are going to go to private doctors, public hospital, private hospitals, and we're going to reimburse those doctors and those hospitals and you are going to get the greatest service of any veterans in any country. because you deserve it. >> so, circumstance as you say, we didn't hear that many specifics. do you think he is keeping some of that policy in his back pocket for tomorrow? >> reporter: well, he does say over the next couple of weeks, he will add new policy. he always says he has new policy coming soon.
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that's definitely a possibility. the chairman said the republicans on that stage will not be that far apart, maybe excludeing rand paul when it comes to policy and national security. what they were looking for was tone and strength. that's why the chairman likes donald trump so much. he thinks he is the kind of guy that will have the courage to stand up against more funding for the military, that's what this group is looking for. whether that will be enough for voters in the early states used to hammering candidates one on one about policy specifics, that's an open question. >> sar remarks you caught up with him after the event and asked him about tomorrow. so let's take a listen to that. >> how are you feeling? >> i feel good about it. i feel really goods about it. >> reporter: any special preparation? >> i have been doing this 30 years a. lot of preparation. i feel really goods about the debate. >> this is his debate preparation, right? >> reporter: yeah, this is
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absolutely his debate prep rachlths he says he has been preparing for 30 areas, he means events, he gets on board, he hears what's on the top of their mind. he talks to the chairman of the group who by the way said he spoke to a number of debates ahead of this. here's what he says in debate class, a lot of coaches would cringe at donald trump's schedule this week. he has been flying all over, he held a number of events. esau a subdued candidate for donald trump. it will be interesting to see if he is reinvigorated tomorrow? tonight was a brief speech. 15 minutes. he didn't have a lot of jab for his fellow candidates. maybe he's waiting until tomorrow. >> maybe he is resting up a bit. now, let's head to the reagan library, there for us tonight is cnn political director and dana bash one of the questioners tomorrow. i cannot wait.
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thank you both. joining us now, trump's speech was much shorter than we have come to expect. perhaps because he has a big night ahead of him tomorrow? >> reporter: perhaps. you know, i have actually seen him give sort of shorter speeches than longer. you know, the other. is that the arena where he was very picturesque arena. the imagery we know kind of hit you over the head. it basically spoke to foreign policy issues and, you know, if he's not going to give a lot of specifics on foreign policy issues. there is not a whole lot more than he could say. as sarah was talking about he did talk about immigration, which, you know, a lot of people rightly so do believe it's a national security issue. >> that might be another reason besides getting home and getting rest. >> it was billed as a national security speech. we thought there were going to be more specifics. let's listen for a bit and we'll
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talk about it. >> we will be building up our military. we will make our military so big and so strong and so great and it will be so powerful that i don't think we're ever going to have to use it. nobody is going to mess with us. >> that i can tell you. and we're going to have a president who's respected by putin, who's respected by iran. >> so, dana, he talks tough. but is there any there there? does he have a coherent national security strategy that he is going to roll out at this point? >> reporter: that he's going to roll out? they are saying the answer to that is yes. has he rolled it out yet? >> no. what you just played is vintage donald trump, don. you know this you talk to him many, many times. you know, talking in big bold
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statements and getting cheers from the crowd. i mean, look, in his defense, that's what they want to hear. if he started going down the line of a 15-point policy plan, i think they would say, sorry who is donald trump? what ask this guy? >> sthatsz not what we've come here for. >> reporter: exactly. having said that, you have tried to push him, i have tried to push him. others will as well, when you are president you feed policy ideas. iran is a great example. last week he was at an anti-iran deal rally. a lot of us were pushing on you don't want this deal, his answer is i don't want to give away too much to the open is zbligs i am used to making deals, i will get a better deal. >> let's talk about this debate tomorrow night. you can see hein dana, it is beautiful. it's gorgeous. the race is narrowing with two candidates clearly standing out. trump still is in the lead 27%.
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ben carson, though, closing that gap, 23%. in fact, it is a virtual tie. so will trump go after carson now that she so close? >> well, he has shown the ability to do so. when carson first went after trump, don, you remember last week about the issue of his religion. trump hit back hard on "new day" and said people should look into ben carson no see if there is any there there. he is willing to go after ben carson vrmt i look at ben carson as sort of the non-trump alternative for the anti-establishment folks. so if you are railing against the republican establishment and looking for something non-politiciany for your candidate but donald trump's style somehow turns you off, ben carson is sort of a safe harbor for those conservatives right now. so they're kind of occupying. although they're both anti-establishment guys. i think they're appealing to a different set of voters.
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i don't think he sees ben carson as a threat. i don't think he sees ben carson as tearing into his territory and so i would be surprised if donald trump comes out of the gate swinging at ben carson. >> dana mentioned the folks there were to hear trump, his trumpness or trumpisms rather than hearing specific policy. but he talked about who he draws his support from tonight. here it is, let's listen. >> there was a word, two word that used to be used a lot called silent majority. they stopped using them t. silent majority, believe me, is back. [ cheers ] >> and i think we can use it somewhat differently. i don't think we have to call it a silent majority anymore because they're not silent. people are not silent. they're disgusted with our incompetent politicians. they're disgusted with the people that are giving our country away. they're disgusted when they tell
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the border patrol agents, who are good people and can do the job, they're disgusted when there are lots of people that walk in front of them and they're standing there helpless and people just pour into the country. they're disgusted when a woman who is nine months pregnant walks across the border, has a baby and you have to take care of that baby for the next 85 years. >> so it sounds a lot like anger and disgust. conventional wisdom says that isn't a message that wins elect, usually. but conventional wisdom has been wrong so far a lot in this race, david. >> that is certainly true. listen, jeb bush constantly tries to contrast himself with that. he loves to tout he is running on an optimistic hopeful message. you are right, don, that has sort of been the staple of successful presidential campaigns, one that is uplifting. it is amazing listening to that portion of his speech you just played, if you are a voter
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frustrated in terms of anything in the way the government is operating or your life is right now, he gave you a huge invitation that said basically to steal a line from bill clrnths i feel your pain. so there is something that he is creating when he expresses all that disgust that if you are a frustrated voter. you see in donald trump somebody really sympathetic to your cause. >> can you tell us a little about the debate format tomorrow night? >> sure. i mean. >> david or she in. >> this is for david. then we'll get to you. >> go ahead, dana. >> no, david. david. my boss first. >> so, you know, we're going to have on the main stage, don, 11 people on the stage. >> that the a crowded stage and this is a crowded field, but everyone will have a minute to answer direct questions to them. they will have 30 seconds for follow-ups or if another candidate attacks them, they will have 30 seconds for
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rebuttal. jake taper as sort of the mediator or moderator of the evening will keep everyone to those rules throughout the night. >> dana, the only woman up on that stage is carly fiorina. everyone is looking to her. they're saying she is the one to watch. there will be two women. you, unless you are in the audience asking questions, what are you expecting to hear? what are you going to ask her about? do you katory share preview some of your questions to her? >> i don't care to share a preview our questions. i think that would a disservice to anybody? did i mention my boss is on the air with us? >> you did. >> look the bottom line is that to answer your question what are you getting at, of course, it will be a different dynamic with carly fiorina on the stage. if you go back to what happened in the last debate, which i don't think will be replayed in this debate. when trump got into it on the woman. carly fiorina was the first one
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to say if i were on that stage, i would have said, ahem and given her 2 cents about tlampblt i think the bottom line, women whether questioners or voters, they come sat issues from a little bit of a different perspective and the majority of voters at this point historically are maybe just a little of the majority. but a pa majority are women. women tend to make the decisions when it comes to the family budget and the things that voters really care about in their houses. so i think that is going to play into the debate as well as having the female perspective. i have to say if what she has been doing over the past couple of days is any preview of what she's going to do behind me on this stage, she's going to be given as good as she gets. >> a force to be reckoned with. yeah, she turned the whole look at this face. around. thank you very much dana bash. appreciate it. get some rest. stick around, when we come right
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back, joe biden takes aim right at donald trump tonight. is it a sign he is ready to run? plus, will any of the candidates on the debate stage tomorrow night take on the mantle of ronald reagan?
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>> it's just hours away, folks, the all important cnn debate, which may give some candidates a boost and could force others to drop out of the gop race. charles hurst is here, he's a washington times columnist. anna novarro, a adviser to other gop candidates. mr. dan pfeiffer is here, former senior adviser to president obama and mr. david schein, he's back. dan, it's not just the gop with eyes on donald trump. joe biden was at a hispanic her teen-age tonight aimed squarely at donald trump. >> i want you to remember, not withstanding the fact it's one guy absolutely denigrating an entire group of people. appealing to the baseer side of human nature.
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working on this notion xenophobia in a way that hasn't occurred in the long time since the know nothing party back at the end of the 19th century. folks, the american people are with us. i know it doesn't feel that way. but i'm telling you, i'm telling you, the american people agree with us. we're going to take a who ill to overcome this -- look, you are talking about somebody who is talking about a minority within a minority party within a minority. and the vast majority of the american people, here's what they still believe. the american people are decent. they're basically basically decent. >> i mean, it sounds like he's a candidate. but it's interesting to see him taking a direct shot at the front runner ben. >> well, what, knowing joe biden as i do, i'm positive the main driving force of that is he is pretty morally offended by the tone donald trump and others
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have taken. but from a broader strategic for democrats, we let the hispanic know the sorts of comments that donald trump has made and the fact that so few republicans have stood up to him. the ultimate goal for strategic republicans, is speak up for latinos. they have an agenda. we should take it. >> february bush. >> only at 6 morris. is tomorrow night make or brake for him? is it a make or brake moment? >> i don't think so. i think it's a very important moment. i think it's a very important moment for everybody on this stage. there are some people on this stage, don, who are on the verge of falling off this stage, either having to shortstop campaigning, stop their complains or they're about to be in the junior varsity. >> you don't think he is on the verge from going to the second tier to the junior varsity as you said debate? >> no, i mean, he's number 3rd in the polls.
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look, i know he's in the single digits. he is sharing that pidz za pie with 15 other people, 14 now rick perry felt. it's hard to make the case that tomorrow jeb is on the verge of falling when he is flanking donald trump as the third highest ranking person on that stage. there is going to be a lot of people on either side of him that are a lot lower. i do think it's an important debate. i do think that he's got to have a good solid strong performance. i think he's in a good head space. i think he's pumped for this debate. i think he's ready to have it and to do it. but i also know that jeb has built a structure. jeb has put together a campaign that will stand highs and lows. he's built a very big structure and put the finances together for that. >> all right, charles so then what is a make or break, because he was the inevitable person.
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what is the make or brake moment for him? what could make or brake him? >> i think you make a point at a good time tomorrow night. jeb bush was the you know absolute favorite going into this. . he has been completely side lined by donald trump. it is, you know, it's sort of astonished, it's breath taking among those of us who follow this stuff to see how badly his lunch has been stolen by donald trump. i think what jeb bush las to do, he has to figure out some way to combat this low energy. to go after donald trump without seeming angry and also do it effectively so that he can actually, you know, score some points off of him. which he has not been able to do thus far. when he tries to do it. it either fails or donald trump comes at him even harder. he winds up farther back than he was to begin with. it's unfortunate in a lot of
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ways, because, jeb bush came into this as a governor, a successful governor and those are usually in a time like this, those people do very well in this kind of atmosphere. but in this atmosphere, where you have donald trump, carly fiorina and ben carson, three total outsiders of politics who have risen to the top so quickly, even a gof who isn't from washington is sinking as sort of an establishment insider candidate. >> and a quick rebuttal, please. >> i just don't think that donald trump has stolen jeb bush's hundred everyone as charles says. i suspect that there is very little crossover between trump voters, trump supporters, the ardent ones and jeb's supporters. i do think that donald trump has been able to consolidate the outsider, the anti-everything vote whereas jeb is having to divvy it up with 13, 14 others? >> anna, maybe it's not donald trump but something has happened
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within the campaign or within the elect toreate that has the momentum. he is going down instead of going up. it may not be donald trump. something is going on. >> don, i would say to you, for example, where is scott walker, for example? who was number one in iowa. you know, jeb has got the ability to wait this out and play the long game. he's got a the patience and the humility to do it. you may have seen him as the enev itable front-runner. i know the guy. i don't think he ever saw himself as the inevitable front-runner. i think he always knew it was going to be a hard sloc and he thinks that's what it should be. >> i wonder if there is something -- i'll ask dan this after the break, something about how president obama prepared that the other candidates can take a lesson from? we'll talk about that after the brake. don't go anywhere. zplmplts.
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i have a little debate coming up. i hear my -- let's call them
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welcome back, everyone, as we look at live pictures of the reagan library in simi valley, california t. candidates are preparing and counting down the hours to our cnn debate.
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this could be make or break for some of them. some people on this panel may disagree, it's not make or break, it's a little early. i'm not so sure. so dan, is there a lesson to be learned from the candidates on how president obama prepared for debates? how did he prepare? >> well, certainly don't prepare like he did for the first debate in 2012. >> that didn't go so well for us. here are some general lessons, barack obama is a great candidate, a great debater. i think the candidates need to get their heads clear. i feel donald strump in jeb bush's head. he is constantly saying i'm a high energy person. he has to get that out. they need some moments. this is not how you are graded on your overall performance. it's can you have a good moment shared on social media, facebook and twitter t. morning shows. you have to have those
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practiced, named in there early in the debate otherwise you will get written off on this crowded stage. >> it's kind of like when we talk donald trump they remember lines or zincers or a phrase rather than the substance on sometimes than the debates. someone can win substantively, no one will remember unless you have a zinger. i want to talk about a person that will loom large. that's ronald reagan. how do you think he will factor? is everyone going to invoke reagan somehow? >> without a doubt, they will. first of all, let's start with the backdrop the majestic presidential plane, ronald reagan's air force one. you don't see sort of the symbol of america as acutely as do you with that plane. and have you all these people on the stage secing to sort of pick up the reagan mantle and carry it forward not only standard bearer for the party but hopefully as president of the united states. so they will no doubt invoke
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him. invoke his leadership style. she still the touchstone for the modern day republican party. even though a lot of his policies may not today hold up in the modern day republican party. he is still the iconic figure that is that touchstone for the party. >> i'm wonder figure there is anyone the candidates are speaking to, the point earlier about lines and moments that are remembered and shared on social media, all of that. can any of the candidates do anything to get out in front of donald trump without being negative. is it? i was thinking earlier, maybe the only. someone can do is drop the sort of political mantle and the structure and say, you know what, i'm sick and tired of you. you say a lot of stuff. you don't get substance. you hog up all the air time. now that would be a people? can anyone do that? >> i think that's what's so dizzying about this. that's why so many candidates are so knocked off balance is
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because donald trump has kind of rewritten all the rules of these debates in a debate style like this, there is unle that dog, only one, not two, not one-and-a-half. one alpha dog. if that one alpha dog is not donald trump then everybody else is sort of under his thumb. i think it's a real problem t. primary question people are grappling with right now is do we frontally attack him or do we try to keep the mud from and blood and guts from being spewed all over our candidate. >> so i will follow up then. because this is an opportunity possibly for the other candidates to get more real. if donald trump is out there and his debate prep is giving, you know, a speech you know on an aircraft carrier. >> and everybody covers it. >> on a boat. then is it their turn to become you know as i said less
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structured? this is an opportunity? >> yeah. i think so. but the real as you point out at the beginning, don the real problem here is anything like that can turn into a murder-suicide. >> how so? what do you mean by that? >> you know he's going to hit back, no matter who you are, no matter what you, how highly regarded you are. if ronald reagan were here and dising donald trump, donald trump would be attacking ronald reagan. that's not the case, but i'm sure he would. >> let's talk about the one person that i think everyone thinks it's going to be her moment that may hit back the hardest and that's carly fiorina. first time on the main stage after her breakout performance in cleveland and her first time facing trump since his face comments to rolling stones. so what does she have to do to keep the momentum going? >> well, i think she has to have a great debate. she lad one the last time. i think it shows that you can emerge from a debate and that a
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debate can make a difference. she's john from the jv. she was the only non-seasoned politician in a smaller debate full of governors and senators. you know, carley i think is going to stand out because she is the only william, because she has had this week that back and forth with donald trump. but i will tell you something, everybody else on that stage, we were talking earlier between policy and theatrics, everybody else on that stage is held to the same rules. they've got to know the policy. but at the same time, they've got to have a -- if they flaw, flub the policy, if they have an oops moment where they can't remember the third department that they want to abolish, they're done for. that's what we will be talking about the next day. donald trump, he ain't held to those standards. he can sit there, stand there and not know the difference between the kurds and the quds
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and blame the guy asking the question. everybody else has to do both things. >> i want to thank you everybody for coming on. i hope people come back tomorrow night t. third thing i can't remember. coming up, jeb bush stuck between a rock and a hard place, is it time to come out swinging against donald trump in tomorrow night's cnn debate. we'll be right back. .
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on the eve of our cnn debate, jeb bush is sinking in the polls. dr. ben carson is closer to trump than ever before. so what should they both be doing as they prepare tonight? joining me is an ad advisor to jeb bush during his 1994 campaign for governor, who helped prepare him for debates that year. also dr. christy taylor, i would say co-chair for carson america. happy to have both of you here. matt first. as someone who has coached jeb bush before. walk us through how jeb bush prepared. are all typical debate rules really out of the window when it
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comes to dealing with someone like donald trump if you are jeb bush? >> well, yeah, in this election is obviously so different than '94. he was very young then, making his first race. had no name rek recognition. had no real experience t. challenges there were to be substantive and be informed and cal low. we emphasized preparing on the issues rather than the presentation. >> okay. sorry. go ahead, continue. >> this time, well, this time, it's the total reversal. i mean, he's well versed in the substance and he's facing a, a performer, you know, it's like for dposh sakes you are running for president of the united states, are you on a nationally televised debate and at the podium next to you is ronald mcdonald. it's a little surreal and probably difficult to deal with. >> does he have a natural, i'm sure donald trump would take
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offense to that, but does he have a natural debate style, jeb bush? >> well, yes, it's again, it's very much directed at the substance. i think that for example tomorrow night that jeb needs to be jeb. he can't pretend to be donald trump. he can't pretend to be someone he's not. so he needs to be shorter with his answers, perhaps more focused, sharper, demonstrate passion when appropriate. >> all right. so dr. taylor, you next. let's talk about your guy. your guy is dr. ben carson, he was polk at 6%. now he is closing in on donald trump. are we going to consider to see this mild mannered candidate or is he going to change himself, make a met a metamorphosis on stronger comments? >> well, i think ben is going to do what people expects him to
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do. that's be himself. ben is very genuine. he is thoughtful. he is sincere. he's certainly firm, but he's kind and yet he's resolute and people have come to expect that from ben. i don't see ben changing who he is or acting differently because the campaign is further along and we have been more successful. >> so far, though, for the most part, it has sort of been he's taken the high road, which has worked for him. i want to talk about. i want to read this assessment you should read, it comes from the palm beach post where dr. carson lives, now he is a top tier candidate, carson won't be ignored in the half hour debate. he might be asked to explain his past description very much like nazi germany in suppressing speech of his contention that obamacare is the worst. that has happened in this nation since slavery. he's going to have to answer
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some of those tough questions. should he take a page from donald trump to double down on what he has said in the past? >> well, ben will be ben. as i said, ben is very genuine and very resolute. he will give very thoughtful answers and tell people what he really thinks. that's why people love ben carson. he says what he means. he doesn't sugar coat it. he doesn't believe in being politically correct. he talks about giving real problems and real answers. that's why people are the ground swell effort is to get behind ben carson. it's a real movement. >> so when he questioned donald trump's faith and immigration plan s. that the real ben carson? is that something he believes in? >> well, what ben does is want to put the issues first and foremost and so i think you will see that ben will focus on the issues and the problems that we have and finding solutions to
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those. >> you say jeb bush has a problem of overanswering questions sometimes. >> that can trip up a candidate in this debate. you said he has to be shorter. >> more focused and more passionate. >> well, i think that's rieft. if he's attacked and he has to respond direct lid and forcefully. >> what if that's not in his nature, though. donald trump is a counter puncher. is there even when i asked about a natural debate style. is it in jeb bush's nature to counterpunch, so to speak? >> oh, yeah, jeb is a tough guy. trust me, i have been on both end of very pointed discussions with him. he's, he knows how to bring it. so he can if he has to. i don't think he has to tomorrow. tomorrow is not going to decide the 2016 presidential election. it may be a pivotal point for some of the weaker campaigns. but that wouldn't include jeb's. he has the best name rec physician, the best financial
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resources, the best organization, he just needs to be patient. he doesn't need to try to knock anybody out tomorrow fight. he needs to let other people knock each other out. like a texas chain match. he needs not to go down tomorrow night. >> it's trump and carson and same strategy for both of them? >>. i would think that both fiorina and dr. carson need to fight for the constituency that to whom the non-traditional candidate appeals. it appears the field is breaking down into traditional candidates of which jeb would be the preeminent example and non-traditional candidates of which trump is currently the leader. at the end of the day, i think trump has to defeat himself. it's almost like mccarthy in the early '50s. he keeps going and going until the crystallizing moment where somebody says have you no shame? and i don't think that will be tomorrow night. but it will come.
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i think it's more incumbent on dr. carson and carley fior riff nato demonstrate that they are a less venomous, more substantive alternative to traditional politicians than donald trump is. >> thanks, to both of off. i appreciate it. we are hours away from our cnn debate at the reagan library. there he is already there, all cleaned up. when we come back, can anyone beat the new ronald reagan? we'll be right back. kind of like mute buttons equal danger. ...that sound good? not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason? it was geoffrey! it was jason. it could've been brenda.
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here are the predictions about tomorrow night's debate, political competenttator and host, okay. let's see crystal, i was trying to get to johnny carson the great what's his name, carnak in there smer na k. >> last week it changed the dynamics of this debate. do you think tomorrow night will do that? >> i do. i'll tell you why i do. i do for the venue in which i'm standing right now. i think this alone will clang the nature of the debate.
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here's why. the last debate that, fox debate was held where lebron james plays basketball. there was a huge crowd of tense of thousands there and donald trump feeds ob that. there was an audience built in, don, for his one-liners. they responded. i'm looking at 500 seats the candidates get a small allotments. there are benefit ne factors of the reagan lie prepare recipients of those seats, friends of cnn. there is not a built-in audience for the type of routine i think trump has succeeded with. i'm saying it will be more sedate. i think a sedate crowd will draw out more substance, especially when have you jake and dana and hue hewitt. so what i'm saying is, i think tomorrow night is a night he, trump, is going to need to bring more specifics and not just the when we return-liners. >> because you -- one-liners. >> because you can't feed off as he does in the big arena.
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>> i don't see it happening in this venue. it will be enthusiasm. people are psyched. it's like a super bowl. the places are all done up. it's a goods spectacular. there is a good vibe in the room. it won't be like last night with trump in dallas with 20,000 people at that mark cuban event. this is totally different. >> listen, cnn does it right. i covered the debates, both election cycles. i think we put on the pest. the best of the best. i want you to take a look at a new ad by jeb bush pact. ♪ >> we lose everywhere. >> murders, crime. believe me, very, very stupid people. you're finished. the american dream is dead. give me a break. my message will be an optimistic one because i am certain that we can make the decades just ahead
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the greatest time ever to be alive in this world. >> that chance, that hope, requires the best that is in us. we will lift our sights again, make opportunitycome common again, growth that makes a difference for everyone. it's possible. it can be done. >> is he taking a page from ronald reagan there, a sunnier tone, more optimistic? >> well, he's going after donald trump in a way that initially he was reluctant to do. i think that his campaign paid a price for initially being flat-footed. you know, i don't think you should take any crap from trump at any time if you are one of the people on that stage behind me and too many of them have. pause they have been not sure how to respond. now they look at jeb and say, wait a minute, are you going to be the establishment guy? that's why i think he is spending that money on this ad campaign that's been rolled out. if he doesn't have a good night tomorrow night, i think he will
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feel heat from a john kasich or another candidate. >> there is a classic line. we were talking about memorable moments. roll it. >> not at all. i want you to know that also i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes myopoint's youth and inexperience. >> is that good? it was a question about his age. so are the best debate moments, are they prepped or just offhe cuff? >> i think they're a combination of both but mostly they're the lines that you've got if your hip pocket. i will make a prediction. that's a hell of a line. it never gets old when you watch it. my prediction is carly fiorina comes with one of those lines tomorrow night for the donald. >> looking forward to your analysis. thank you, sir. >> bye, bud. >> we'll be right back. i say we go all in on the internet of things. what we're recommending as your consultants... the new consultants are here.
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>> late night round two hours away. our earlier debate begins tomorrow night at 6:00 p.m. eastern. 8:00 p.m. from the reagan library in simi valley, california. i'll see you back here thursday night. we'll do apal sis, post-analysis. "ac 360" starts right now. geefr from the reagan library in simi. ka. tomorrow night 15 candidates in all, four in the early debate, 11 in prime time. two donald trump and dr. ben carson far ahead in the polls. one ahead from speaking. not far from here. donald trump stepped aboard the decommissioned uss iowa. he is being introduced right now. he is expected to

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