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to speak. a source close to the situation telling cnn that the former basketball star told khloe kardashian, hi, was the statement he said. but his condition remains guarded and it's not clear if he's still awake right now. but this is good news for people watching this story. odom of course was found unconscious at a nevada brothel earlier this week where employees said he'd been using cocaine. it's also where he reportedly spent $75,000 over three days. khloe kardashian meanwhile remains at his bedside. their divorce was never officially finalized, so she will still be in charge of making medical decisions for the former nba star. you can follow much more of this story on cnn. that's it for "the lead" from new hampshire. i'm jake tapper turning you over now to brianna keilar in for wolf blitzer in "the situation room." have a great weekend. see you on sunday on "state of the union." happening now, mideast on edge with parts of jerusalem in
lockdown amid a wave of terror. there are battles between violent protesters and troops in the west bank and at the gaza border as palestinians answer a call for a day of rage. are things getting worse? shootdown, after three warnings turkish jets down a mysterious aircraft near the border with syria. russian warplanes are swarming the skies over syria but moscow denies any involvement in this incursion. isis hack, u.s. officials are trying to get their hands on a cyber attacker accused of stealing personal information of u.s. military personnel and passing it onto isis. and dumb puppets, donald trump is back on the attack hurling insults at a fox news anchor and her guests. and he's going after the bush family over 9/11. jeb bush hitting back on that. wolf blitzer is off. i'm brianna keilar. you're in "the situation room." this is cnn breaking news.
breaking news. an explosion of rage by palestinian protesters with jerusalem under tight guard against a wave of terror attacks, bloody clashes between palestinians and israeli troops spread in the west bank and at the gaza border fence. and palestinian protesters torched the compound surrounding a revered holy site. president obama says israel has a right to protect its citizens and warns random violence will only bring more hardship. and with more planes crowding the skies over syria, the air war danger has now spread to neighboring turkey. after recent violations by russian jets, turkey, a nato ally, says it has now shot down a mysterious aircraft near the syrian border. suspicions immediately focused on russia, which has carried out hundreds of combat missions over syria. russia though denying any incursion by one of its drones. our correspondents, analysts and guests have full coverage of the day's top stories.
and palestinian groups calling this a day of rage. and it's lived up to its billing with jerusalem under tight security after earlier attacks. the violence spreads to the west bank with an arson attack at a holy site. and bloody clashes between protesters and israeli troops. cnn's orren lieberman is live for us. >> reporter: that arson was the first attack of the day but not the last. and as this wave of violence pushes into its third week, the question how many more attacks will there be and how many more lives will be lost. fanning the flames of tension across an already-explosive region. israeli media have shown this video saying it's the fire at joseph's tomb. the israeli military says palestinian rioters torched the site holy to jews and christians friday morning before palestinian security forces disbursed the rioters and put out the fire. the tomb appears to be unharmed.
palestinian and israeli leaders condemn the attack. the day was just beginning. israel imposing heavy restrictions on palestinian movement in and around the old city of jerusalem after a wave of deadly attacks, checking ids, stopping cars and blocking off palestinian neighborhoods in east jerusalem. the city remaining relatively quiet during friday prayers. attacks moving into the west bank. a palestinian disguised as a press photographer stabbed an israeli soldier in the west bank, according to the idf. the four soldiers shot and killed him. clashes broke out in bethlehem between palestinians throwing stones and molotov cocktails. israelis firing tear gas and bullets, littering the street with a debris of clashes and filling the air with the acrid smoke of tear gas.
in heberon, palestinian protesters marched through the streets carrying -- waving hamas flags. in gaza islamic jihad and hamas called for a day of rage, the third in eight days as tensions flare on both sides with the questions lingering when will this round of violence end. in this wave of violence since the beginning of the month there have been seven israelis killed and 39 palestinians killed and many more injured. secretary of state john kerry speaking on the phone with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu palestinian president mahmoud abbas and king of jordan king abdullah to try to bring the situation together and calm the tension, the fear that's so palpable here to try to calm everything down before this continues too much longer, brianna. >> and we're hearing that secretary kerry may be making a very important trip soon. what are you hearing, oren, about this? the expectations of this? >> reporter: well, there's still details to be hammered out.
we know he spoke with prime minister benjamin netanyahu, the two sides trying to arrange a meeting. and that will be an attempt to bring both sides, israelis and palestinians, back to peace talks, to peace negotiations. secretary kerry very obviously wants to restart the peace process here. well, there isn't much hope on either side on either the israeli or palestinian side that that could lead anywhere with tangible results. we also of course still on the agenda know that israeli prime minister netanyahu will meet with president obama on november 9th. that's still scheduled will be more of an attempt to bring people back, to bring the sides here back to the peace process, get that peace process moving forward. but again, the prospect of that creating real results here not too optimistic from the sides here. >> oren liebermann for us in jerusalem. thank you. now i want to get to the shootdown of a mysterious aircraft by turkish jets near the syrian border. you see these pictures here. russia is denying initial accusations that one of its drones was involved. i want to get now to cnn chief
national security correspondent jim sciutto, he has the latest. jim. >> brianna, there's been a lot of talk, a lot of concern, a lot of warnings about conflict in the skies over syria. and while this was an unmanned drone, now you have had one. u.s. officials believe this was a russian drone and it was shot down by turkey, which is a u.s.-nato ally. the wreckage of the drone lay in pieces smoldering on the ground. turkish forces say they shot it down friday inside turkish air space near its border with syria where the skies are increasingly crowded with aircraft from multiple foreign powers, including russia and the u.s. u.s. officials tell cnn they believe the drone was russian. moscow says all of its drones are accounted for. turkish officials say they had no choice but to destroy it. >> translator: turkish armed forces have warned about violating turkish air space.
after several warnings if these elements do not comply they are shot down. >> reporter: here new video which witnesses on the ground say show russian air strikes against villages in homs, syria. just days ago two u.s. and two russian aircraft came within miles of each other, so-called visual range, before they moved away. u.s. officials immediately protested and the two sides are expected to reach an agreement soon to avoid conflict in the air. >> this is why we are working with the russians, been in communications with the russians specifically on this notion of safety protocols be put in place to make sure that coalition air crews and russian air crews for that matter are not at risk of some sort of accident in the skies over syria. >> as i suspect russia starts realizing that they're not going to be able to bomb their way to a peaceful situation inside of syria that we'll be able to make progress on that front. >> reporter: the fight on the ground is becoming more crowded and more volatile as well. the united states recently air
dropped ammunition for syrian rebels it is supporting, promising more but only if used to attack the target the u.s. is focused on, isis. former commanders say this strategy is risky. >> it becomes very important to know who you're dropping these weapons, these arms to. and if you don't know exactly who's going to be at the receiving end, there's a risk that these weapons will fall into the wrong hands. >> reporter: in his press conference today the president said the u.s. and russia have now reached agreement on so-called deconfliction in the air space over syria basically to keep u.s. and russian planes from shooting each other. still technical deals to be worked out. on the larger issue, brianna, on the functions of the strikes, the u.s. believes they are primarily to defend the regime of bashar al assad. you heard the president say russia cannot bomb its way to a solution here. on that issue still major
disagreement between the two sides. >> jim sciutto, thanks so much for that report. let's bring in cnn counterterrorism analyst and former cia official phil mudd and cnn intelligence and security analyst bob behr, a former cia operative. bob, let's take a look at this picture of this drone that has been shot down, this sort of mysterious drone. you have russia saying this isn't ours. but take a look at this. what do you think? >> it looks russian. on the other hand we don't know what the russians are doing with their drones. they could be giving them to hezbollah which is in fighting along the turkish border, or even the iranians. they may not have been in control of the drone or i simply don't believe the russians, who else could the drone belong to. >> that's the question, phil. so this may be russian and russian operated, or russian and operated by some other entity. what do you think? is there anyone else that this drone could belong to?
>> sure. a lot of people developing drones these days. there's an explosion in drone technology around the world. in the intelligence business they are ideal to dwell over a target like what the russians are doing. if the russians are looking for example at an isis facility there's no better way to get intelligence from the air than to sit over that target with the drone. my question here there are other countries that could do this, israel for example, iran, but the russians have an interest in flying in this area. it's not clear to me whether they violated air space purposefully though or whether they simply lost a link, sort of technological link that allows the ground controller to communicate with the drone and that's why it went into turkish air space. >> doesn't this speak, bob, to a problem we're see tlg? you have russian air strikes, the air is so dense with russian jets, with u.s. jets, we've had incidents earlier this week russian jets flu withinew withi couple of miles. you have all these pilots
operating there. how much danger do you think they're in? >> i think the danger is enormous. i don't think the russians would intentionally attack the air force. there's also a problem in the mediterranean. the russians are shadowing american fleet there. the possibility of an accident is what concerns everybody in the military. and that they could accidentally shoot down an american airplane or vice versa, or if a plane strays into turkish air space. i think at this point the turks would shoot it down and this could cascade into a major armed conflict. >> we've seen, phil, a russian missile go down in iran where it was not supposed to be. tell us about the accuracy of russia's missile capability. >> well, if you look at the american side, americans have been using these kinds of missiles for years. the question here though is whether the russians have developed guidance systems that are good enough to get this missile -- these are highly technical missiles. you're flying low to the ground, you're hitting a target from 1,000 miles away. so if you're using that kind of technology on a relatively new
missile, i think the question is not whether they can be accurate, the answer from the american side is absolutely the american missiles can be. the question is rather the russians have developed guidance systems that can be as accurate as what we've seen from the american side. and the fact that they launch some that landed so far and away in iran suggest to me they got a long way to go on perfecting their guidance systems. >> all right. phil and bob, stay with me. we're actually getting some new information on that doctors without borders hospital strike in afghanistan. we'll be back after a quick break to talk about it. the possibility of a flare swas almost always on my mind. thinking about what to avoid, where to go... and how to deal with my uc. to me, that was normal. until i talked to my doctor. she told me that humira helps people like me get uc under control and keep it under control when certain medications haven't worked well enough. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis.
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after the deadly u.s. air strike on one of its hospitals in afghanistan, the charity group doctors without borders now says investigators have made things even worse by driving an armored vehicle into the hospital complex. meantime, we are getting new information an what the u.s. knew about this building before it was even targeted during a battle with the taliban. cnn senior pentagon correspondent barbara starr has more on that. barba barbara. >> officials tell cnn that at least some part of the u.s. military knew in advance that this indeed was a hospital. they're saying that doctors without borders, and i quote, did everything right. they informed the military of where they were located, and there was that information available to the u.s. military. it was in databases. the key question now for investigators is at what point
did that information perhaps not get passed along on that night when that air strike happened? who knew, who did not know? when the air strike was authorized, did the crew, did the groups on the ground know it was a hospital? did they know that taliban might be there? did they think it was okay to strike a hospital? it most certainly is not according to the top commander in afghanistan. he says that is absolutely against the rules. doctors without borders spoke to cnn today. their view remains unchanged. >> the only theory we have is we had a hospital fully operational, full of staff with patients, up to 200 patients and staff. it was bombed. it's one of the hugest loss of life that we've ever experienced as an organization. it is one of the most clear cut cases that we can think of where the laws of wars have been violated. >> to be clear, if it is a hospital, and even if there are taliban there, if there are
insurgents there, multiple u.s. officials say hospitals are not targets to ever be hit. hospitals, schools and mosques are completely off the list not to be hit. this investigation may go on for some time. brianna. >> all right. barbara starr, thanks so much. i want to bring back our experts phil mudd and bob behr to talk about this. bob, you heard barbara's report there. it seemed as if there was some information about this being a hospital that certainly for days some u.s. authorities knew of. so what do you think? was this knowingly struck? >> well, i find it hard to believe that centcom would strike a hospital. yoernd i do know doctors without borders sent people to centcom and even in combat sent the coordinates to the hospital to the military in kabul. even the ac-130s which attack
the hospital have what's called a safe box. they should have the coordinates of all hospitals and targets that are off limits. why that system didn't work we have to wait to find out. but if that plane did attack and it knew it was a hospital, that's a war crime. >> so it's essentially geotagged as these airplanes are flying so that they can avoid these certain areas and they are knowingly off limits, right? >> yeah. there's even a name. i think it's called falcon view, but somebody may correct me on that. and that should have been preprogrammed into the plane's computers. and if it wasn't, that's just a tragic mistake. but again, if the hospital was hit on purpose, it's a violation of international law. >> do you think there needs to be a separate u.n. investigation? >> absolutely. i think we need to get the cockpit tapes. there's some rumors out there that that plane was targeting a pakistani intelligence officer leading the taliban. i don't know if that's true. but if you look at the overhead
from the hospital, it's clear that they hit one building. and from my view is they're probably after one person. somebody was leading the attack. otherwise the whole compound would have been hit. the attack went on for over an hour. >> my goodness. all right. phil, i want to turn back now to talk about russia's involvement in syria. you have president obama who has addressed these air strikes now, today these russian air strikes. he had a joint press conference today. here's what he said. >> there's no meeting of the minds in terms of strategy, but my hope is is that as we continue to have these conversations and as i suspect russia starts realizing that they're not going to be able to bomb their way to a peaceful situation inside of syria that we'll be able to make progress on that front. >> is russia's aim here though a peaceful process in syria? >> not right now it's not.
but i think the russians to be blunt have a much clearer vision than we do, than the president does. the russians have said quite simply we can't afford to have isis roll through syria and have assad ousted. assad's a long-time russian ally. they clearly the russians have a political interest there. but their strategy is captured in one sentence, we're going to show up and support assad so isis can't win. we've said we're going to support a sliver of the opposition, that is the moderate opposition, that doesn't have a prayer of countering isis in al qaeda in syria. doesn't have a prayer of ousting assad. i think washington was surprised and embarrassed by what putin's done. so we're sitting back saying we don't like what putin's doing. we don't like the resolution that will leave assad in place. but we don't have a better solution. i think the president's scrambling to say what do we do now that puttin putin trumped us. >> what is russia's strategic interest in syria? >> couple things. you look tactically if you're a russian ally you're looking at
what's happening in syria saying is putin's russia going to stand by traditional allies around the world. i think there's a much simpler way to look. as putin tries to expand the russian empire after the embarrassment and decline of the empire in the 1990s, he's looking at places like crimea and ukraine, and i think syria fits in the same category. if i were the baltic states, central asian states, once satellites of russia, i would be worried because putin is clearly saying we don't like what the americans have done. they've expanded in nato, so i'm going to match them pound for pound if not more. and i think syria's just a piece of that big puzzle. >> phil, bob, thank you guys so much. coming up, donald trump, he is on the attack again. he's playing the 9/11 card going after jeb bush and his brother, the former president. >> when you talk about george bush, i mean, say what you want. the world trade center came down during his time.
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>> you are absolutely right. today donald trump is not just going after jeb bush, he's going after the bush family now bringing 9/11 into it. republicans are back on the attack, and this time donald trump is going after the bush family for 9/11. >> when you talk about george bush, i mean, say what you want, the world trade center came down during his time. >> hold on, you can't blame george bush for that. >> he was president, okay. don't blame him or don't blame him but he was president. the world trade center came down during his reign. >> jeb bush slamming trump's comments saying how pathetic to criticize the president for 9/11. we were attacked and my brother kept us safe and calling trump a novice on foreign policy. >> he hasn't shared his views, he talks about how putin should take care of isis and the week before isis ought to take care of assad. he would send refugees back to syria to their slaughter. i mean, these are serious times. >> but trump is back to
attacking fox host megyn kelly retweeting users comments and writing, every poll, time, drudge, slate and others said i won both debates, but heard megyn kelly had her two puppets say bad stuff. i don't watch. although he watched long enough to go after the fox news guests saying one is a failed bush speech writer whose work was so bad that he has never been able to make a comeback. a third-rate talent. and the republican front runners, trump and ben carson, pressuring cnbc to change the format of the upcoming debate. after threatening not to show up, sources tell cnn the republican national committee called campaigns this morning informing them cnbc agreed to limit the debate to two hours including an opening and closing statement. trump tweeting, fantastic news for all especially the millions of people who will be watching. which prompted this taunt from carly fiorina. >> i think apparently they're
worried about answering questions for three hours. for heaven sakes we have ten candidates on the stage. i don't think three hours is a long time. >> carson promising he'll bring more energy to the next debate. >> hopefully as time goes on we will get into substance and real solutions. that's what i want to look forward to. >> and of course you saw how beneficial those first two debates were for carly fiorina. so no surprise that she wants more debates and for them to be as long as possible. >> all right, sara, you're going to stick around. we'll bring in cnn political commentator s.e. cupp and the host of cnn's smirconnish, michael, you see them here. they're arguing over whether former president bush was responsible for 9/11. i mean, what do you make of this argument? also, who's right here? >> well, did the towers come down on his watch as donald trump said they did? of course they did. but can you hold george w. bush responsible? i don't think that you can. i don't think that the american
people will. i don't think that the evidence supports that. first of all, if the american people believe that, he would never have been re-elected in 2004. and, brianna, this whole back and forth caused me to go back to the infamous pdb of august 6th, 2001, bin laden determined to strike in the united states which sounds awfully compelling, but it really is as president bush described it a general briefing that speaks to bin laden's intentions and i don't think you can say he was ever provided information as far as we know of an impending attack. >> all right. i want to ask you, sara, about something that jeb bush said about donald trump. so before he calls him pathetic today in a tweet, he spoke about trump to cbs and he said something very different. he said he admires bush -- or admires trump that he's way too politically incorrect. does this indicate jeb bush is still struggling to figure out how to handle donald trump? >> i don't think anyone aside
from carly fiorina who seems to have figured this out has managed to find a way to handle donald trump. i'm hearing from more and more republicans, especially after our polls from south carolina and nevada that showed trump with such a wide lead saying what are we going to do about this. the summer of trump is over and now it's trump and ben carson on top. someone needs to step up. someone needs to put some money behind this and figure out a way to get this guy out of the race. so far that's something jeb bush and his super pac have not done. >> what do you think, s.e.? >> it's really hard to be critical of the front runner even when he is completely deserving of criticism, right? i mean, the things that he has said are completely disqualifying if they were said by anyone else. but yet every time he says something offensive or damaging he either sticks or goes up in the polls. so if you're jeb bush or someone else, i mean, you have to pick your moments to weigh in and know that it might not have the kind of, you know, consequences that you were hoping. >> what do you think, michael, about this cnbc change to their
debate? what does it say to you that trump and carson were able to get the format changed? >> well, i think first of all it speaks to their dominance. they're first and second position in their party standing right now. i also think it speaks to the fact that neither at least in my opinion had a good night at the reagan library where the debate was far longer than two hours. so if you looked at donald trump by the end of the evening he looked fatigued. it was a hot room. i remember walking into the library earlier in the day on that set and saying to myself this could be a problem later. but it didn't bode well for him. and so i think not only is he probably complaining about the length, he's probably also going to complain about the temperature. [ laughter ] >> can you get that adjusted, do you think? >> i didn't find the requests actually to be all that unreasonable. >> yeah. >> and i think the front runners clearly -- in both parties, have influence over these proceedings. you know, hillary clinton clearly has some influence over
how many debates -- >> how many debates. >> -- allowing to happen. much to the chagrin of the rest of the democratic field. so i don't think this is something unique to trump or carson. i think this is what you do when you want people to pay attention to your debate. >> i think that's absolutely right. i think we see this every cycle. but usually a lot of this jockeying happens behind the scenes with the networks with the party. you know, it's donald trump who's the guy who comes out and makes it a fight and a deal that he gets the better of. >> or martin o'malley. >> in the democrats case. >> that's right cht i want you to listen to something that jeb bush had to say. this was at a town hall in new hampshire earlier this week. >> you know, i made a mistake. i was asked on a sports talk show -- i was asked my views on the washington redskins. and i said, look, there are a lot of big pressing problems here. i don't think we need to be so politically correct to try to through government take the name redskins off of -- if that's what they want, leave them alone
for crying out loud. and someone sent me an e-mail and said, jeb, the term redskins isn't the pa jortive, it's washington that's the pejorative. i don't know what you'd call it, northern virginia redskins or something like that. >> okay. so why? >> that is the question. >> why did -- it seems like he sort of is almost looking in a way -- he sort of steps into these things. >> he does. you know, his instinct is right. hiss instinct to say there's to much political correctness or the country's concerned about other things, that's right. why resurrect though an old controversy that i know he does not want to be talking about for the next news cycle as a way of dealing with that point. he could easily make the point that the country has bigger concerns than the washington redskins without wading into the washington redskins controversy. i mean, it's just baffling.
it was a baffling decision. >> what did you think of that, michael? >> i think that the turf of being the anti-pc candidate is firmly in the grasp of donald trump. and i agree with what's been said. there's no upside for jeb. this was -- it's not huge, but it's just another unforced error. >> yeah. what do you think? >> i think jeb is not going to be able to sell himself as the outsider candidate, as the washington outsiders. look, people aren't going to forget that his dad and his brother were president. and, you know, he has a record that he can run on. he has a lot of things he could be talking about there if he wants to win over voters. it seems like the washington redskins is probably not one of those things. >> maybe stay away from that. sara, s.e., michael, thank you so much. join michael for his show tomorrow morning at 9:00 eastern and tomorrow evening at 6:00 eastern only here on cnn. tonight, you actually have another chance to see the democratic candidates go head-to-head at the cnn facebook debate. that will be at 10:00 p.m.
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government staffers. then gave the data to isis, quote, to target the u.s. personnel for attacks and violence. how dangerous is this 20-year-old alleged hacker? >> in terms of effort with the right amount of money, with the right amount of ideological commitment and enough time on your hands, you can pull something off like that. and i mean isis has said they will commit themselves to combatting their infidel enemies wherever they are present. that also includes online. >> prosecutors say after he hacked the u.s. service members' data, he gave it to the notorious head of isis' hacking division killed recently in a u.s. drone strike. he's believed to have inspired this isis-instigated attack on u.s. soil, the foiled attempt in may to shoot up a prophet mohamed cartoon drawing contest in garland, texas. u.s. officials say he and his british-born wife sally jones published the kill list online this summer encouraging lone wolf attacks, warning, quote, oh
crusaders, know we are in your e-mails and computer systems watching and recording your every move. and that is es operatives, quote, will strike at your necks in your own lands. >> this drives people to follow-up on this information. maybe it will get a hit on someone. maybe it won't. it also does really freak out u.s. government, military and law enforcement personnel. >> cnn attempted to reach dozens on the kill list. some e-mails bounced back as being old addresses. others went through. one retired serviceman confirmed to us the phone number for him on the list was accurate. and he said the pentagon alerted him. a u.s. military official tells cnn so far they have no indication any u.s. service members have been attacked. but analysts warn there are more isis hackers out there. >> they could live anywhere from western countries like western europe, england, france, germany, or they could be in malaysia. >> contacted by cnn a relative of this accused hacker says the family is shocked at the notion
that he might be involved with isis. and they are skeptical of the charges. the relative who did not want to be named says farese recently planned to return home from malaysia and suffers from mental health issues and they were getting worse. brianna. >> brian, i know you have some information from an intel source on the fallout from the death of that top isis hacker. what did you find out? >> that's right. a u.s. intelligence official tells us hus sane's death is a significant loss for isis, brianna. that they're struggling to find someone to step into his shoes but this official says isis is certainly not abandoning its efforts to inspire acts of violence online. they're concerned about possible future attacks. there was some thought that his widow sally jones might step into his role as the head of isis' hacking division. she may not have the skills, but they'll find someone else who does. >> we know you will stay on that. brian todd, thank you. coming up, a flash flood watch in the same area that's still digging out from a dramatic deluge that closed highways and left cars buried in mud.
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>> let's listen in, top aide huma abdean. >> i wanted to honor the service those lost and injured in the benghazi attacks. i am proud to have served at the state department and honored to work with secretary clinton and alongside established diplomats and service officers. i appreciated the time of the members and committee staff today and i answered all their questions the best of my ability and with that i'll make in further comments. thank you. >> all right. some limited remarks there from
hu huma, chairman to hillary clinton's campaign when benghazi happened. huma was a top aide at the state department and said there before after coming out from a day of testifying before this congressional committee led by republicans that she wanted to be there. she wanted to honor those who had lost their lives, the four who had lost their lives in benghazi. what do you make of that? we've seen other people testify who don't necessarily come to the camera to sort of, i think, say hey, i was here today doing this. >> you know that huma is a private person, she's a public figure but she was always kind of behind the scenes so she very rarely speaks out but i think this is what hillary clinton's aides, jake sullivan, her foreign policy aide both testified before this committee and wanted to come out and say look, this is about four lives that were lost, a tragic attack
and they want to keep the focus on that. there is a lot of charges, you know, swirling around this about politics, but they want to remind everybody that they are there to answer questions about the attacks themselves. >> do we know anything about what huma said to the committee? will we find that out? >> well, i understand, look, it was eight hours of testimony i heard from some, those close to huma that it was a respectful hearing. it was -- she answered all the questions posed by the members. i think what they were looking for was because she was so close to hillary clinton, how hillary clinton responded to certain things, e-mails that she forwarded to hillary about the attacks, how she was involved in the infamous talking points and doing in the days leading up to. this committee expanded its scope over the course of the last year from just talking about the attacks to saying look, this was in essence about the decision to go into libya
and the conditions that it created afterwards. so, you know, hillary clinton thought libya would be one of herm main achievements. if this is one of her main achievements, why wasn't she involved in the security. >> thank you. flash flood watches in effect for southern california digging for mudslides that trapped 200 cars and closed part of interstate five triggered by half a foot of rain. we have jennifer gray monitoring conditions. what are we seeing here, jennifer? >> we have rain on the radar. most of these showers have pushed a little farther north from where we saw the slides happen but we still have rain in the forecast for this afternoon, as well as into the weekend. so because of that, we still have flash flood watches. even flash flood warnings in effect in some areas. so i'll take you back and we can
see what happened. you see those white dots. that's where two of those major slides happened that we saw over interstate five. we saw areas of up to three inches of rain in 30 minutes and you have to remember a lot of this rain is falling in areas that have been burned so there is no vegetation up there to absorb any rainfall and also, the drought that's been going on for the last four years. the rainfall goes down the side of the mountains, nowhere for the water to go and basically takes the mountains with it. that's where we get mudslides. as we go forward in time. we'll see a couple showers as we go through saturday. we won't see anything as intense as yesterday but still, we have a couple of systems that are pulling in from the pacific that are bringing these surges of energy and bringing this moisture on shore in southern california and we have to remember we are in an el nino year we talked about that is going to bring more rain expected to bring more rain into
southern california during the winter months, it's a good thing we need the rain but of course, we don't need the mudslides, brianna. >> it's like you can't win for losing there. i have family there, i know. thanks so much, appreciate it. coming up, after three warnings, turkish jets shut down an aircraft and russian war planes swimming the skies but moscow is denying any involve the. m the. e the. n the. involvement the.the. he. e. .
attacks and the torching of a jewish shrine. tonight president obama is putting pressure on both sides to avoid fueling the violence. drone wars, turkey shoots down an aircraft invading its skies and ignoring warnings. was it a weapon in the military assault in syria? mudslide mystery, flash flooding leads to disaster in california engulfing roads stranding dozens of cars and drivers. it's likely to get even worse in the hours ahead. battling over 9/11. jeb bush calls donald trump pathetic after the republican front runner seemed to hold george w. bush responsible for the attacks on america. >> whether you talk about george bush, say what you want, the world trade center came down during his time. we want to welcome the viewers in the united states and around the world. wolf blitzer is off. i'm brianna keilar. you're in "the situation room."
breaking news tonight, israel scrambling to try to end the cycle of violence that is rocking the jewish state to its core. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu planning to meet with john kerry after a new round of clashes and bloodshed. tonight both israeli and palestinian leaders are condemning an arson attack on a religious site holy to jews and christians. growing anger by calling for a day of rage against israel. we have correspondents, analyst and news makers standing by as we cover this news that is breaking right now. i want to get first to cnn's or oran. >> reporter: this started with an attack in the west bank when the idf says palestinian leaders
crashed a site. it was palestinian security forces which we haven't seen too much of that moved in, disbursed the riders and put in the fire. condemnation from both sides israelis and palestinians, perhaps a good sign there, a bit as these two sides working together to condemn this attack. but it didn't end there. there was heavy security restrictions in and around the old city of jerusalem as israel put in nearly 2,000 extra border police officers to maintain the security, to maintain the calm and having walked around the old city, it was relatively quiet in the old city today but that's because the attacks moved into the west bank. it was a few hours after friday prayer a palestinian dressed as a press photographer stabbed an israeli soldier. other soldiers opened fire and killed the attacker. while this was happening, there was a number of clashes in bethlehem and gaza, all as part of this day average there and
that's this continued cycle of violence entering the third week. one of the big questions at this point, how long will the violence end since the beginning of the month this claimed lives of 39 palestinians and injured many, many more. brianna, the question again there how long will this last? how many more lives will it claim? >> is there any optimism oren for resolution here? >> reporter: well, that's certainly the hope on both sides. both sides calling for calm and to a certain extent both sides claiming the other sides for ensightment here. it was secretary of state john kerry that hopped on the phone and palestinian president to try to talk all this situation down, to try to bring calm and ease the tensions here in the situation and as you mentioned, it was -- it will be, rather, prime minister netanyahu meeting with secretary of state kerry to see what can be done to
deescalate. in the end, secretary kerry's goal is a two-state solution that may seem very, very far away right now but brianna, bringing these two sides to the table to a peace process could help the situation even a little bit, which is very much needed right now. >> oren, thank you so much. president obama is putting some new pressure on israeli and palestinian leaders to do more to end this cycle of violence and bloodshed. cnn white house correspondent michelle kaczynski was at the news conference today and you asked him, michelle, about this conflict. what did he say? >> reporter: today the president condemned the violence in the strongest possible terms and asserted israel's right to protect the people but what secretary state kerry traveling next week to sit down with benjamin netanyahu, seemed like president obama wanted to give a much tempered version of what kerry himself said earlier. he talked about there being a massive increase in israel lee
settlements over the last couple years and kerry said now you have this violence because there is frustration that's been growing. we'll tell you president obama said there is not a direct causation and he described this atmosphere of tension as he put it has a potential to lead to more misunderstandings and triggers. he did urge both sides, though, to try to defuse it. do you feel like president abas has to stop attacks? >> we also believe that it's important for both prime minister netanyahu and israeli elected officials, and president abbas and other people in positions of power to try to tamp down rhetoric that may feed violence or anger or misunderstanding and try to, you
know, get all people in israel and in the west bank to recognize that this kind of random violence isn't going to result in anything other than more hardship. >> reporter: so just as president obama didn't want to appear to be putting blame on the israeli side, he wouldn't answer that question as to whether the palestinian president has a responsibility to condemn the attacks. now white house press secretary had a stronger statement earlier this week saying that the administration is concerned about israeli settlements, but said there is no justification for this violence. brianna? >> the president clearly trying to strike a balance there. michelle kaczynski, thank you so much. tonight, we're learning more about the deadly u.s. air strike on a doctors without borders hospital in afghanistan and what american officials knew about this building before it was attacked. our pentagon correspondent barbara starr has been digging
on this story. they knew it was a hospital, is that right, barbara? >> at least somebody in the u.s. military, somebody in the u.s. government did have the information that it was a hospital. there had been rumors of taliban in the area, the question now how did all of this lead to such a disaster? cnn has learned that u.s. military investigators found the u.s. did know this was a hospital being run by the medical group doctors without borders in northern afghanistan. two u.s. officials tell cnn the location was in a u.s. military data base, one official saying the medical group did everything right. 22 people including 12 medical staff and three children killed in the u.s. attack october 3rd. doctors without borders says there has been more trouble. an armored vehicle carrying military investigators forced
its way into the wrecked compound causing damage and potentially destroying evidence. >> another example for us of how this investigation is unfolding in a way that really necessitates an independent investigation. >> reporter: still, u.s. investigators still trying to answer the questions, how did it happen? who ordered the aircraft to fire? other key questions, did the knowledge it was a hospital get passed along? when an ac 130 gun ship struck, did the air crew and special of rak -- operations forces on the ground know it was a hospital? if they did, did they realize it was against military rules, even if taliban was there. >> the hospital was mistakenly struck. we would never intentionally target a protected medical facility. >> reporter: ash carter says all video and audio recordings are
being reviewed but promising, everyone will have say. >> there is other data, as well, and make sure we have the whole story. >> the theory is we had a hospital fully operational, full of staff with patients up to 200 patients and staff. it was bombed. it's one of the hugest loss of life we experienced as an organization and one of the most clear-cut cuts we cases we can where laws are violated. >> reporter: doctors without bod borders say there was no taliban and it was so quiet, they carried out surgeries they had to postpone due to earlier violence in the city. >> barbara starr at the pentagon. thank you. now escalating tensions along the syrian border leading in the skies. turkey says it downed an unidentified drown invading air space after repeated warnings were ignored. did this drone belong to russia? a lot of folks are saying that.
cnn national correspondent jim sciutto is here. do we know the answer? >> u.s. officials believe they do and believe it is a russia drone. there is deep concern about conflict in that air space over syria and we've seen it. a russian possibly drone that lost contact with its command control taking it out of syrian air space despite that russian denial that all of its drones are accounted for. still, it was shot down by turkey, turkey sag i it had no choice and we saw more alarming near misses. two aircraft came within miles. so-called visual range before they moved away a few days ago. u.s. officials immediately protesting. today the president did say the two sides have reached agreement on what's called deconflikoconf the air space, keep them from shooting or running into each other but on the issue of russia joining into military action in the air and on the ground, the u.s. and russia still very much
at odds, the president said today that russia cannot expect to bomb its way to a settlement in syria. that's the president's words, and they are also at odds on the basic facts. russia says it is hitting isis targeting an effect. russia says anybody against the assad regime and not succeeded in aiding his forces on the ground. real disagreement there both at the tactical level but the pacts facts on the ground. >> we're hearing about a u.s. air drop. what can you tell us? >> the u.s. air dropped a supply of ammunition. it's been supporting but basically in a sort of carrot effect promising more weapons if they follow through on targeting isis. a lot of issues because many rebel groups are more interested in attacking the assad regime. the u.s. stipulating now we'll give you these weapons, we'll
give you more weapons if you do attack isis, we'll see if that pans out. really, no control once the weapons on the ground, foreign commanders say you put those in the hands, the hands of those rebels and you have no control where they end up. >> jim sciutto, thanks for that report. i want to get back to the breaking news on the terror and other violence aimed at israel. joining me to talk about this, middle east analyst and arthur aaron david miller that advised six secretaries of state over two decades. i know you see what is going on as a symptom, obviously, of the larger issue here in the region, but does the israeli government have the ability to combat loan wolf type of attacks we've been seeing? >> those are toughest because 80% of them are conducted by young palestinians anywhere from 13 to 20. and weapons, low-tech, either running people down or kitchen
knives or readily accessible and available, plus, there is a sense of frustration, december st desperation, what happened, conspiracy theories the government of israel is out to fund mentally change the nature of the status quo. those are wrongheaded but i think that's fed and islamic and hamas have a steak to a certain degree in stirring the pot. the good news here, i think, this is that israeli palestinian security cooperation continues and neither abbas nor the prime minister have a stake in watching this escalate and the president doesn't want to fight with israelis. had this happened six months ago, i think you would have seen a much different reaction from washington. we now walked back in three cases, statements that have been made. one, settlesettlements, and two israelis used excessive use of force. that has been walked back and three that the israel llys were
trying to change the status quo on the temp mound. they walked back that, too. implantation is primary and the prime minister is meeting with the president next month. >> meaning extending more positive language to israel because of the iran deal that israel is not on board with? >> right, they want to see implantation and secured. obama has a year and change left on the presidential clock. neither netanyahu nor obama want to pick a fight and who knows, maybe at that meeting, the two of them can discuss a strategic approach. >> let's talk about you have benjamin netanyahu, john kerry going to be meeting in europe but it seems like the u.s. relationship with israel is even with this less stride language about the tensions and the violence that's happening now seems like things are so strained. is there really anyway to accomplish anything? >> i watched prime ministers and
american presidents deal with one another, carter with a strained relationship and produced a peace treaty. bush 41 and shamir and netanyahu and clinton his first term strained relationship and we negotiated two agreements. it's possible. the leadership required to take the risks on israeli palestinian side isn't there and frankly, i'm not sure we have the will and skill in washington to serve as effective brokers and mediators. give me three things and you can have a serious negotiation that could lead to a two-state solution. >> without those things you mentioned, it seems like a pessimistic view about somehow coming to a resolution soon. is there a possibility we're on the verge of something much bigger here? >> i think you'll know that.
you'll know whether or not this will get worse before it gets or in essence there is a way to tamp it down. if you do, you're turning to status quo with the problems that remain to be resolved and the chances of doing so are not great. >> aaron david miller, we always enjoy having you on. >> pleasure to be here. just ahead, donald trump seems to blame george w. bush for 9/11 and jeb bush fires back. and pounding rain, rising water and oozing mud, it is a recipe for a disaster hitting california right now. alright team, we've got an f150, needs a systems check and tires. doc, i need you on point for this one. already got the latest updates direct from ford engineering. 'cause ford dealers get that intel first. treads, what do you got? lookin' a little bald, sir. with all due respect. got the perfect fit- ready to roll. wheels up, flaps down, let's fly. ford parts. ford tools. ford techs. when your ford needs service,
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we're standing by to hear from donald trump in massachusetts very soon and the gop front runner is engaged right now in a new war of words that is prompting his opponent jeb bush to call him pathetic. cnn political reporter sarah murray is here with more. what's he doing in massachusetts? >> so massachusetts is not one of the early states but new hampshire is which is close by and the trump campaign has a problem more candidates wish they had, they can't find venues big enough for the crowds trump draws and that's the reason
we'll see him popping up every now and then in massachusetts and look, when people see these events and see this excitement, it has republicans worried and starting to wonder what can we do, what will it take to knock trump out of the race? >> what is happening with these 9/11 comments? donald trump made them, jeb bush hit back. they are at odds. >> donald trump reignited this feud with jeb bush today by saying george bush is responsible for 9/11. let's take a listen. >> when you talk about george bush, say when you want, the world center came down during his time. if you look -- >> hold on. you can't blame george bush for that. >> he was president, okay? don't blame him or don't blame him. he was president. the world trade center kacame dn during his reign. >> this did not sit well with jeb bush. he said how pathetic for donald trump to criticize the president for 9/11. we were attacked and my brother kept us safe. the battle between jeb and
donald trump back at it today. >> all right. and it will continue. s sarah murray thank you. joining me to talk about this is a donald trump supporter and director for the news network, scottie hues. jeb bush is calling the comments pathetic. i would ask you this as a supporter, were his comments presidential? >> i don't know about presidential but talk about pathetic. this is desperate of the jeb bush taking the words that were the truth. his brother was president. mr. trump did not come out and say i blame it on him but the truth was president bush had been in office for eight months. if anything 9/11 as we know these terrorists had been training iffor years. the actual words was he was president which is factual. they are twisting words and blowing it up because they want
donald trump to seem unpatriotic. >> you don't think he was eluding to some sort of causation of connection here? >> absolutely not. i think he was simply stating facts and the jeb bush campaign is wanting to blow this up. it was is a fact he was president and jeb is trying anything he can to twist the words of mr. trump to make him look bad. this is a desperate attempt on the part of their campaign, not necessarily what mr. trump said. >> the other day, donald trump weighs in on bernie sanders. interesting because he's been targeting bernie sanders and calls him a socialist/communist and hitting megyn kelly again on twitter, but you have people, scottie, saying this is just to district from the fact that he's policy light. where are his ideas? >> well, where his ideas? go to his website and listen to the speeches. if you look at all candidates, jeb bush has a lot and marco rubio but trump, but the rest of
the candidates -- >> scottie, pardon me, we've gone to the website and there are three policies. >> you sit there and look at who they are. you have to realize strategy. you're in the media business. jeb bush put his plan out probably a month ago and rand paul since the beginning. there is a strategy mr. trump is using in rolling out policies and obviously working. it's the idea of the d.c. elite, consultants say throw everything at the american people so they glaze over and don't pay attention. that's how we've lost. donald trump is actually putting things in what main stream folks need to hear and going into it and explaining it. the people act as though the election is this november. we still have a13 months to go, that is time, folks. you want to ask about policies, it's simple. he continues to lay them out unlike bernie sanders that will say i'll give you free stuff and
the way i'll do it is by making the taxpayers pay for 90% of it raising taxes. mr. trump laid out as much policy as he believes needs to be out there and will continue to lay them out over the course of the next 14 months. >> you think we'll see more or he continues at this slow pace of laying, of putting policy propels out? >> obviously it's working. it's a great strategy and the reason he's number one in this -- >> wait, so you're saying he continues to be number one because he's not getting specific and he's not boring people with details? >> it's not boring people with details. he has details. he understands how they will do it but instead of sitting there and doing large document jumps of policy using d.c. elite words that the majority of the american people don't understand, he's talking in terms the majority knows how to talk about. how people are not able to afford health insurance and eliminate obamacare and replace it but yet, still take care of
the folks without insurance. he's talking about second amendment and instead of saying folks, here is everything and here is what we need to talk about at this time period. it's called strategy, something the gop has not had and, twoing and engaging people who normally would not pay attention to politics and engaging them in the process and you've got to commend him for that. >> if he's not explaining how he plans to do these things including health care propels, shouldn't he, isn't it incumbent on him as a candidate to explain how he does this? >> i think he is. it's so simple, it's complicated for people not to, you know, it's complicated for these elite and those d.c. folks to understand. he talked about how he's going to pay for, how he's going to pay for everything. he's going to go in with a chainsaw and hack out the epa, department of education ways we know exist. that's how he's going to do it. instead of sitting here raising taxes like bernie sanders taking
more money out of the working class americans, he's say no, i'll go to the government and slice budgets in half unlike john kasich who says will i put a freeze on it. there is more spinning in the federal government budgets than any private corporation. >> i do think your right. it is working. we see the poll numbers and see he's by far and away the front runner. scottie hues, thank you so much. really appreciate you being with us. just ahead, we're standing by to hear from donald trump on the campaign trail in massachusetts and then hillary clinton regains some lost ground in new hampshire on the heels of the first democratic debate. is that a reason for joe biden perhaps to stay out of it?
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this hour we're following now twists in the democratic presidential race. the vice president's announcement could come in a matter of days, maybe even hours and our senior white house correspondent jim acosta is following the story. we're getting hints, right, about his timing? >> hints but not definition. top democratic officials are saying the party is growing i'm patient as joe biden is taking
longer than expected to make a decision but the vice president's political team sent out a smoke signal a final answer is coming soon. it's the big question all over washington, will he or won't he? when joe biden's political future came up in the oval office, the vice president was just a few feet away listening with his lips sealed. president obama later brushed off the question. >> i'm not going to comment on what joe is doing or not doing. i think you can direct those questions to my very able vice president. >> reporter: but a decision appears to be coming soon, so says biden's former senate chief of staff in a message to the vice president's political network. i am confident the vice president is aware of the practical demands of making a final decision soon. kaufman described what a biden campaign would be like, in other words. >> they will put y'all back in
chains. >> reporter: lots of biden being biden. i think it's fair to say knowing him as we all do that it won't be a scripted affair, after all, it's joe. democrats are all but begging biden to hurry as one put it, if the silence goes into next weeks, friends think the decision is made for him. hillary clinton pushing herself in this interview. >> a decision has to be made but certainly i'm not in any way suggesting or recommending that the vice president accept any timetable, other than the one that is clicking inside of him. he has to make this decision. >> reporter: plus, the longer biden waits, the more it hurts. the latest poll in new hampshire shows bernie sanders in front. when democratic voters were asked if biden should enter the race, half said no. >> i think he knows this is d-day and he's got to make a decision. a lot of people are waiting and people who really care about him
and want to help him are waiting, too, and so he needs to move on there. >> reporter: democrats are starting to compare biden's lengthy deliberations to those of the late new york glove now mario cuomo who had a plane waiting to take him in 1992 but cuomo pulled back at the last moment. and a clinton went on to become president. >> a top democratic source says biden's inner circle indicated a decision could come but some democrats are not buying it as one party strategist told me this latest message from biden world might be buying time. >> we will see if that's the case jim acosta, thank you. i want to bring in sarah murray and cnn political commentator ryan lizza and senior political analyst ron brownstein, the editorial director for the national journal.
ryan, hillary clinton having a gad debate performance. she gets a bounce in the polls in new hampshire, which is key because bernie sanders was really taking it to her there and she seems to have turned this corner here. knowing that, how quickly is this window for joe biden closing for him to get in the race? >> right, all of the politics are cin favor of hillary and no so much biden. you have e-mail scandals packaged into the benghazi committee which has become seen as partisan. hillary not suffering much about that right now. you have polls doing, increasing polling in new hampshire and her beiing declared the winner of te debate, talking about her commanding performance and you have the deadline of october 29th when the first state, georgia, you have to send a letter to the secretary of state if you want to be eligible for
georgia's delegates so biden has to do it then. put that on top of the political case was not strong for biden and maybe he'll do it, maybe he won't but i don't think the case strong. >> sarah, he could get his letter to the secretary of state to georgia together and send that on. >> there is still time. >> i'm sure there are friends in georgia willing to drop that letter off. look, i do think the reality is there are some structural challenges, too, for joe biden to build a campaign and i know how we talk about how he's a sitting vice president and has a network. let's remember barack obama running for reelection kept his entire campaign organization in tact from 2008 and turned to that to win again. the idea that just because you're a sitting vice president, you can all of a sudden snap your fingers and make this appear is not really true. >> ron, why is he making these calls to party leaders in the early states and sort of having this just in case i decide to run, which kind of seems like a wink, wink, nod, nod thing, why
is he doing that? >> you don't want to foreclose options. if you don't act in essence you remove your ability to act later. you have to make at least some ors in the water to give yourself the ability to make a decision. as we talked about before on the show, joe bide season a dependent variable in his own potential campaign. this is more about democrats' views of hillary clinton and whether she is a viable nominee than it is necessarily about joe biden to the extent democrats feel that hillary clinton has been compromised and cannot carry the banner in november, there is more opening for an alternative like biden to the extent she reassures democrats and firms up her position as ryan suggests that window narrows and polling has never been overwhelming, it hasn't been totally discouraging but numbers haven't been that high to say it was a slam dunk to enter before the improvement for hillary clinton this week. >> his role more than anything is to cut into hillary clinton's poll numbers.
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several hours of questioning. huma's appearance after a special house committee is a warmup of sorts for hillary clinton's public testimony next week. and our global affairs correspondent has been trying to get details. she answered questions. >> brianna, the committee just appreciated willingness to come on and answer questions as hillary clinton's right hand the state department, the committee believes huma has firsthand knowledge how clinton handle the affair but democrats say the past week shows the attacks are the last thing on the republican-lead panel's mine. after spending the day behind closed doors, testifying to congress about her boss' roll in benghazi, hillary clinton's top aide broke her silence.
>> i appreciated the time of the members and committee staff today and i answered all their questions to the best of my about did. >> huma abedin was questioned for hours despite democrat's insisting she knew and fresh sign of for tcitizenship. >> everybody thought hillary clinton was unbeatable, right? but we put together a benghazi special committee, a select committee what are her numbers today? her numbers are dropping. >> clinton pounced on the remarks in an interview with jake tapper. >> they became a partisan arm of the committee with an overwhelming focus on trying to, as they admitted, drive down my poll numbers. >> the rough road for the committee continued when a staffer told cnn he was fired
for not keeping the investigation focused on clinton. >> this has become a partisan investigation i do not know the reason for the hyper focus on hillary clinton. >> committee chair trey gowdy denied he's playing politics after another republican admission. >> i think there is a big part of this investigation that was designed to go after people and an individual, hillary clinton. >> the committee has seized on clinton's use of a private e-mail server that dubbed her presidential campaign but after a tough summer, clinton is on the rebound. after what most consider a strong debate performance, and a debate boost from herman -- her main rival. >> the secretary is right, the american people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn e-mails. >> thank you. me, too, me, too. >> the committee and clinton camp are k looilooking ahead in
moment for her presidential am missions and the future of the gop-lead panel. aides to gowdy say he will be leading an interview respectful and based on the attacks them sevens and will show the public the committee is not about politics. she'll deliver strong testimony that will show this set of inquiry run its course and they do believe they have the m momentum. >> i want to bring ron, sarah and ryan back in to talk about this. you have huma abdein testifying today. i wonder if we can pull up this new hampshire poll. hillary clinton 37% to 35% bernie sanders. this is great news post debate. she was struggling in new hampshire and if this is right on, she's not. so isn't she kind of in a -- coming into this from a good
perch? >> close for comfort but ahead of sanders. she wasn't before sanders' momentum is suspended so that's great news and if that continues, you know, she'll be in a much more commanding position. i think on the benghazi committee next week, one of the things she's able to negotiate is a public session, right. so she'll have all the members there and democrats there, obviously, to defend her and she'll have the public there to watch it in the open. what was happening previously with these committees, you go behind doors and testify and then something might leak out that is a snip that could discredit you. she's going to have everything on the record in the open and she'll be able to fight. >> i think that's also key to see how the lawmakers question her in light of all of what we heard folks saying, they do believe it is a partisan investigation and people will pay close attention to hillary clinton's answers and the way lawmakers treat her and their questions are trying to get to the bottom of okay, what
happened? how could we prevent a tragedy like this from happening again. >> trey gowdy saying no, this will be respectful. i wonder, ron, considering one of the big moments of the debate was bernie sanders saying enough with your da manmn e-mails. is is something voters are enough with your damn e-mails. is this something to answer for? >> well, i think voters are necessarily paying attention to all the details of the e-mails but it has reenforced pre-existing questions about her honesty and trustworthiness. i think she has to address them as she goes forward. you know, you look at new hampshire. i mean, quick point on the new hampshire poll. new hampshire has been the most receptive terrain for insurgent candidates like sanders. think of bill bradley in 2000 up. it is probably best opportunity
for him to take -- to cause her to stumble early. to paraphrase frank sinatra, if you can't make it there, you can't make it anywhere. while it will remain close all the way it's a must win for bernie sanders than hillary clinton who can go through the other states. >> what do you think looking at the poll numbers, how excited -- should the clinton campaign be about this? >> well, one, they should be -- because the expectations have changed so much as ron pointed out. the fact that cow could say that now, ron, is kind of amazing. six months ago, nobody would have said -- would have been talking about sanders of new hampshire being the must win state for him. i haven't checked this. but i'm sure that no candidate from a neighboring state and generally it's massachusetts, a state next to new hampshire has lost the new hampshire primary. so sanders has a huge advantage being from vermont. >> and the two-point gap now, if you have -- right. but if you look back, you would
have said, you know, we would expect hillary clinton to win iowa and new hampshire and now the rise of bernie sanders, a number that would have looked problematic months ago looks like a big win for her. >> yeah. >> you know, ryan, howard dean didn't win new hampshire, from neighboring vermont. but go back to 2000, there's -- yeah, there's a lot of similarities between al gore, bill bradley race. bradley stayed close to the end. in fact, in the exit poll, won a majority of the college educated voters in new hampshire which is a big constituency for these kind of insurgent candidates. after he didn't win new hampshire the air went out of the balloon and i think bernie sanders has the same challenge. if he can't win new hampshire it's hard to see him growing into the full scale challenger. even if he does win new hampshire he faces the challenge of crossing over into the minority of the voting bloc but if he doesn't do it in the first state, i think the air could go out quickly. so in the end i think it's more important for him than hillary. >> ron, thank you so much.
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just look at these pictures. roads closeds, cars trapped and tonight there's fear that parts of southern california may see more of this same severe weather. i want to get straight to cnn meteorologist jennifer gray. she's monitoring these conditions. what's going on? >> well, what a mess today. not only did you have a huge chunk of i-5 shut down, but at who of the side road and some of the other highways were also covered in mud. so you can imagine the traffic nightmare in southern california now most of the showers are lifting to the north. the area where we saw most of the slides today getting a break from the rain. but we have flood watches in effect. what happened here across i-5 in neighboring areas we had a lot of rain falling. in a short amount of time. we're talking about three inches of rain in some areas and about 30 minutes. that's a lot for most areas to handle, not to mention southern california where you have a lot
of these burn areas in the mountains. there's not a lot of vegetation to absorb this rain. and then it just flows off the side of those mountains. the drought-stricken areas that have been in this drought for four years, there's nowhere for this water to go. gravity takes hold and takes the side of the mountain with it. so you get the massive mudslides. we are expecting a few more showers and thunderstorms through the weekend but not as intense as we saw over the last 24 hours or so. but we do have a series of areas of low pressure, they'll push on shore. that will provide enough energy and moisture to keep the rain going off and on in southern california. and keep in mind, brianna, we are in an el nino year, meaning we'll get more moisture pumped into southern california over the next few months, and we need the rain but not the mudslides. you get a good thing and then a bad thing to go along with it. >> a tough year weatherwise for california. jennifer gray in the severe
weather center, thank you. remember, you can follow us on twitter. you can tweet me or the show at cnn sit room. join us monday in the situation room. wolf will be black. thanks so much for watching. i'm brianna keilar. "erin burnett out front" starts right now. breaking news. donald trump and hillary clinton speaking live tonight. dueling events. miles apart as a war of words between trump and jeb bush erepresents over 9/11. and we dug into the details of the campaign spending who is spending money on hotels? and live from las vegas, more on lamar odom. let's go "out front." and good friday evening to all. we begin with the breaking news, donald trump about to speak