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that's it for me. thank you for watching. i'll be back at 5:00 eastern in the situation room. for our international viewers, aym amanpour is up next. "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. thank you so much. i'm brooke baldwin. . you're watching cnn. we have breaking news we want to get right to you. russia responding to a threat from isis releasing a five-minute long video saying it's on the verge of attacking russia and soon, very soon the blood will spill like an ocean. this vud owe's release happening that russia may be planning to retaliate for the crash of its passenger plane in egypt. intelligence suggesting that an isis offshoot plant ed a bomb o that plane before it took off.
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let's get straight to this video. what more is in this video? >>. >> this video is haunting and dramatic as they tend to be. a couple things different about this thing. the chanting over it is in russian. typically it's in arabic. there's pictures of russian cities and targets so there's no doubt as to who the audience is for this video saying we are coming to you as the video says. we're going to spill blood. russia responding to president putin. they are aware of the video and looking at it to judge its authenticity. >> thank you so much. as soon as you get more from russia, more from this video as well. so in the meantime, in iraq, a major offensive in the war on isis. war planes dropping bombs, helping kurdish forces as they
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bat toll retake the key city of sinjar. cnn cameras rolling again smack dab on the front lines embedded with peshmerga fighters. what's key here is this map. you see this piece here. this is the map in sinjar. so this is the red area you see here. that's the strategic town near the border there in recapturing would cut off the supply line of the strongholds of raqqa and mosul. but just as important as divide ing the isis call fate is saving the thousands of people, the thousands of religious minorities who live right there. and how could any of us forget this devastating video here that cnn shot this. this was zin yar where cnn witnessed the desperate minorities on the verge of slaughter. the children, the families climbing in. these helicopters scrambling on
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board in order to escape the incoming terrorists. nick paton walsh is on the front lines for us on this battle. he joins me on the phone. nick, as we're talking about this area u of sinjar and hearing kurd you shaish forces retaken this stretch of highway, tell me what you're seeing. >> reporter: what we saw earlier on today and now moved away from sinjar was peshmerga moving into the west in huge numbers. they claim 7,500. you move to the west through the rocky mountain areas there down to the highway you're referring to, off to to the distance and a lot of coalition air power we saw to the west of sinjar. must have been targeted to try to push back towards the city and keep peshmerga away. they moved further toward the east as towards sinjar city
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itself. thousands of them, but they were met by substantial numbers of car bombs that were seized in their direction. but at the same time, those p h peshmerga were able to at times stop some of those car bombs from coming near them because they have a missile system which actually fired at those cars blowing them up in their tracks. a lot of resistance still in evidence in the city. isis have hundreds of fighters by one estimation. they may try to retain control over that area. it's vital they have that supply route. although i have to say you saw ek ka va tors on digging huge trenches and creating bedrooms along that road effectively cutting off traffic. so it seems quite quickly one small part of the goal. s are achieved, but the broader question of how to perge isis from that sprawl that is sinjar yet to be resolved. we saw this stage as who who
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left in there under isis rule. >> nick paton walsh there in iraq. thank you. he brought up a number of key questions. let's have a broader discussion. josh rogan joining us. also here is cnn military analyst and retired general for the europe and 7th army. welcome to both of you. and general, first up, we have talked about the sinjar area before. you have been there and the terrain and fighters and politics. i know you point out there's a a lot more here than meets the eye. first, i bet you have been along the stretch of highway. i want you o to tell e me this peshmerga attack is a much bigger deal than it looks. >> very much bigger deal than it looks. you're talking about the population who has attempted to persuade the kurdish regional government to illuminate the siege for several months now. there have been some in fightings between the political parties within the peshmerga.
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this is a grouped of armed fighters supported by the kdp and another one, the puk. they are coming from different directions. . the forces are by different officials, but they are reliving this city of 400,000 when it was thriving. and that road, which we're talking about, highway 47 which goes east to west from raqqa through sinjar into mosul has been critically important for the isis fighters to resupply that base in the mosul region. it's a long stretch. i have been on that road several times. it is long, it is boring, it is wide open and the difference in terms of the tactics now is you have a significantly increased air power capability because we have airplanes flying and they include f-16s. they have longer loiter time on
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station. they have better capability to engage people in the middle of the desert. and the kurds in this case have been reenforced as knicks said with anti-tank missiles to destroy these explosive devices, which has been one of the e key techniques of the isis force. >> so encouraging potential huge step forward here as we look at northern iraq. but josh, isis has held so much territory including mosul, parts of western iraq, eastern syria. so many other challenges here in this part of the world. >> right, and i would agree with everything the general said but add a bit of context here. sinjar is is symbolic. it's the place ta president obama mentioned when he first decided to use air power in iraq. they have suffered at the hands of isis. but it's only one small piece of a much bigger puzzle. you can be sure that isis has other ways, maybe not as good, to get goods to and from mosul and raqqa.
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the fight in sinjar will last a long time. the effort will really be to hold that area. and also had this doesn't answer what really are the big questions in the war against isis, which is how do you liberate the population centers. mosul has been under control for 18 months. raqqa for longer than that. there's no prospect of an offensive against those populations in any times for months or even years. so while we can say this it represents a stepping up of both u.s. and coalition activity against the islamic state, it's attacked the goal change, not a strategic shift in what experts agree is a stalemate. >> i want you to jump in on that. i want to take this a step further to your point as well. here we have the religious minority living in and around the area of sinjar. are also blaming the party for hanging them out to dry because
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thousands of women became slaves. talk about that facet of this whole fight. >> i'd like to address josh because he's partly right, but i don't completely agree with him. any place the iraqi government or u.s. are going to fight and where there's media it is quickly going to become a strategic count. sinjar is not strategically important. it is a tactical objective to get after mosul. that is the prize. there are several other lines of effort. there's fighting in ramadi to pull isis away from any reenforcement of other places. there's fight iing in the kurdi region. so all of these areas are contributing and for the first time since this campaign began, i think the iraqi government and kurdish government are forcing
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isis to look in several directions. they have had free reign in this area. while i agree with josh saying there's still strategic challenges, big time, we have to continue to stop the flow of fighters into this area and we have to ensure the governments of both iraq and the kurdish regional government and eventually whatever government becomes available in syria continues to step up. we have seen indicators of that starting to happen in many regions to include raqqa. allegedly the kurds and the arab forces in that region are about to stand up with the attempt of having free syrian fighters inside of the town of raqqa willing to step up. >> here's the big flaw. >> quickly, josh. >> in the end, kurdish forces cannot take over arab areas. that effort to mobilize those
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fighters is failing. the iraqi government has not done what it needs to bring all of those groups into the fight. the u.s. government is overly reliant on the people we know can fight isis and in the end that will never produce the oopt mystic outcomes that the general is forecasting. >> i'm optimistic because i can't afford to be anything else having fought in that area. i believe in the iraqi people that they can regain this ground with good governance and will be a forcing function to cause that to happen. to just ring your hands of we'll just let this continue to happen is just not a viable option. >> no one is saying that. >> that's what's occurring now. >> gentlemen, we have to agree to disagree. i appreciate the perspectives. i hope to be optimistic as well. thank you both so much. coming up here, we are following breaking news out of lebanon. an official with the lebanese red cross says more than 40
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straight to breaking news this thursday afternoon. this coming straight to us from lebanon an official says 41 people have been killed, dozens more wounded following a a pair of suicide bombings in beirut. i have journalist tamara on the phone there at the scene in beirut. can you tell me what exactly you're seeing? >> reporter: well, it's been about two hours since the suicide bombing went off. so the area is mostly empty. it's been cordoned off by the
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army. otherwise, there's a lot of shattered glass on the street, a lot of blood and it's really just a scene of chaos and carnage. >> what are you hearing? the numbers we have here at cnn is 41 killed. . do you have a number of how many were injured? >> the lebanese red cross says reported over 180 injured. and we haven't heard anything besides the lebanese red cross's number. there's not really much disagreement about that figure. >> these suicide bombs would have gone off around noon eastern time. tell me this part of the city, is it residential or businesses? >> this is a very residential
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area. it's mixed sunni, shia and palestinian area because it's on the outskirts of a major palestinian refugee camp. this area is also in the southern suburbs of beirut, which is known to be a hezbollah stronghold of the militimilitia. but this neighborhood is a popular neighborhood. >> tamara, stay with many me if you're watching on screen. you're seeing this other additional piece of breaking news. a statement circulated online by supporters on social media claiming responsibility for this deadly suicide bombings there in southern beirut. let me be clear, cnn cannot confirm the authenticity of the statement. these are claims from isis supporters online. stay with me. let me bring in general measuring who remained with us.
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when you hear this, again, cnn cannot verify the authenticity of the statements from isis supporters. but why beirut? especially in the wake of what we have seen according to u.s. intelligence with regard to that passenger plane in the sinai, why this, why now? >> it's another attempt to become connected with u.s. iist. and i think a lot of the intelligence communities and a lot of the diplomats have been caught close ly with not only te lebanese government, but be also the jordanian government and their fear was they were going to become next with the overflowing of extremist groups into their countries. this might be early stages of that occurring. it's been a concern for several months and i think you have seen the state department officials in both lebanon and jordan saying you have to continue to help us counter this isis threat because you're at the pathway
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now. the same thing we have seen in the sinai. a lot of people are saying that was isis. it was originally a group called ruling out sinai who proclaimed themselves an affiliate of isis. they wanted to come down on the side of isis and it's a successful mission. now they are being seen as connected to this organization. so this is a growth of a cancerous organization throughout the middle east. >> with this organization, as we talk about in sinai and here in this part of lebanon affiliates as you point out, josh rogan is also with us. stay with me. josh rogan, cnn analyst. tell me more about she was saying this is a residential area. we see the blood on the city streets where this happened. what sort of isis presence or isis affiliates would be in this
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part of the country? >> there's a rich tapestry that operate around that area. we need to. put this attack in the context of what's going on in syria right now. there was a string of attacks in lebanon, some of the worst they have seen in late 2013 after hezbollah entered on the side of the assad regime in the syrian civil war. they are engaged in a new offensive against the islamic state and other opposition groups. many groups are looking to attack hezbollah where they have a power base. the fact that there's a big refugee camp right next to the explosion may or may not have direct baring on this attack, but there is a concern that there's a lot of people in the refugee camps may have come from the fight in syria. it's not clear who they all are. so as the investigation goes forward, one of the things that investigators are looking for is how did these attackers get into
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lebanon. were they target iing a hezboll area in order to send a message that their intervention in the war should be stopped. and then who exactly is responsible? it could be isis. it could be other groups. there are many groups that have big problems with what they are doing inside of syria. >> so you're tell iing me a potential and, again, we don't know. we're seeing isis supporters claim responsibility. we can't authenticate that whatsoever. 41 people killed, just around 200 people wounded in these two suicide bomb attacks. josh, to your point, a possibility would be targeting hezbollah specifically in civilians being collateral damage. >> what this is based on is the pattern of attacks we have seen as hezbollah has gotten more
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involved in seyria. there's a e competition to carry out these attacks. this was kpaer carried out during rush hour. that was to maximize the casualties and the damage and the popular impact that it this would have on the lebanese population. they are attacking had hezbollah. they are attack iing the base. . and they u control large areas such as the one that was attacked. so again, although the evidence is still coming in, the investigation will have to be carried out. if this is part of the pattern that we have seen in lebanon over the last two years, this may be a direct blow or an attempted blow against hez bollh hezbollah's popular support. >> josh rogan, thank you so much. our reporter there on the ground at the scene, thank you as well. as soon as we get more information, we'll jup date the story. 41 killed and 200 people injured a after these two suicide
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bombings in a residential area in beirut. coming up, will it will be the central issue that defines the republican race for president. illegal immigration and what to do about it. you heard donald trump's plan. build a wall, call for a deportation force. . marco rubio repeatedly asked today where does he stand. we'll talk to dana bash, next.
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to the race for the white house. this growing gap among republicans over this key issue being immigration reform. you know what donald trump wants. wants to build a big wall. and want this is deportation force that would escort 11 million people out of the country. that's what he says. more and more attention is focusing here on the two freshmen senators who are of
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cuban cuban descent. cruz has been blasting roomarco rubio over his support of comprehensive um grags reform. but hours ago rubio said he and cruz have similar proposals. >> legalizing people here illegally. he proposed giving work permits. he's supported an expaension of the green cards. so if you look at it, i don't think our positions are dramatically different. i do believe we have to deal with immigration reform in a serious way and it begins by proving to people that illegal immigration is under control. >> here she is, chief political correspondent dana bash. here we have rubio on immigration, which he sort of wasn't part of that whole massive moment to two nights ago talking immigration and now he's being hit. >> e he skated away without getting the question on it because. he is the most vulnerable when
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it comes to what conservatives really want from their republican candidate, which is somebody who maybe not to go as far as donald trump, which is deport the undocumented immigrants, but somebody who is not going to support a path to citizenship and marco rubio was a co-author of the plan to do that. so what you just saw was kind of clever from marco rubio. because it was a massive bill, which did a whole bunch of things, including what marco rubio talked about. increasing so-called visas, which is visas that allow skilled workers to come to this country, increasing green cards. what he didn't mention is the bill also included a path to citizenship. that is the core of the amnesty argument and the amnesty divide that ted cruz doesn't support and that he continues to support. >> donald trump, let's get to
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the sound calling for the deportation of 11 million people. he's what he said this this morning. >> you're going to have a deportation force. you're going to do it humanely and, frankly, you have some excellent people. some fantastic people that have been here for a long period of time. don't forget that you have millions of people that are waiting in line to come into this country and they are waiting to come in legally. >> so i think a lot of americans believe maybe somehow that he would be able to deport all these people. how would he then compare to a rubio plan? >> rubio has been circumspent on this lately. but in the past, he has fallen into the category of the people we heard on the stage in the debate the other night who disagrees with donald trump, with jeb bush, with john kasich who said it's nuts. it's just not doable.
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but, look, the bottom line is rewind back to june when donald trump announced his candidacy. this is the issue that propelled him. this is the issue that got so much of the conservative base that were frustrated with the national party, because they thought it was moving too much towards reform and allowing undocumented immigrants to stay here legally, and those are the people that he is continuing to appeal to and those people matter because they vote in iowa, new hampshire and south carolina. that is what gets them going. other issues too, but it's a big reason that he has support and he's not going to let it go because he's got a constituency for it. >> dana bash, thank you very much. you don't want to miss donald trump on tonight with erin burnett. look at that interview at 7:00 eastern here on cnn. coming up, a virginia man is
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dead after being tased over and over and over by police. as you can see, it's all caught on video. part o of this outside of the doors of a hospital. what happened, how could it have happened, what is the family of this man now saying. also we're continuing to follow our breaking news. isis reportedly claiming responsibility for a pair of suicide bombings in southern beirut leaving 41 people dead. 200 injured. keep it here on cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. diabetes, steady is exciting.
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want to take you quickly to missouri to the university of missouri as you have been following along this whole week
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the football team threatened not to play in the wake of allegations of instances of racism in and around the college campus there a at mizzou. one student on a hunger strike for a a week because of all of this. the president stepped down there. they are now announcing who the interim president will be. >> i am pleased to introduce and welcome interim president of the university of missouri system mike middleton. >> thank you so much. let me. first say how honored i am to be appointed to this role as interim president of the university of missouri system. this is an incredible institution that has a high
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level of pride. i speak from firsthand experience as i have been a part of this community for over 30 years both as a professor and an administrator. but first as an undergraduate student graduating in 1968 and then a law student graduating in 1971. i have seen the system grow and excel over the years, and i look with great optimism to the future. the mission of our great university is to discover, preserve and apply knowledge. to this end, we must confront many uncomfortable societal issues that once confronted will make us stronger. we all know that the university has faced its share of troubling incidents and we recognize that
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we must move forward as a community. we must embrace these issues as they come, and they will come to define us in the future. >> again, this is now interim president at the university of missouri michael middleton. he's an alum of the school. also went to the law school as a law professor there. he will be in charge of the system for now. now to this, a deadly police encounter. this death involves the device officers use to avoid their own guns, a taser. a warning the vid e owe you're about to see is disturbing. >> so those doors as you're watching this and the man is on the ground being tased, this is happening in front of a hospital. this is where police in virginia were initially head ed with had this man by, but instead of
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taking the 46-year-old father inside, they took him into custody. you can hear one of the officers laugh. >> lamb ber died later that night. this was in 2013. his autopsy indicates it was an accidental drug overdose. acute cocaine intoxication, but the family just obtaining new information blames police and is now filing suit. a hearing in federal court is set for today. our correspondent pamela brown takes us through the final moments of lambert's life. >> reporter: this police video shows three officers in south boston, virginia, tasing a a man outside a hospital emergency room. shortly after, that man died in police custody.
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the video begins with officers picking him up at a motel in may of 2013 after several noin calls were made about noise. police say because of the way lambert was acting, they decided to take him to the hospital for a mental health e evaluation. he made comments about murdering two people and hiding their bodies in the ceiling. >> we're going to take you to the emergency room. we're going to make sure you're good to go. >> inside the patrol car, he kicked out the window. then the vid quo shows him running into the doors while handcuffed. >> get on your belly. >> he falls to the ground and the officers ask him to roll over on to his stomach while threatening to tase him. >> on your stomach. >> lambert admits he was on drugs. but instead of taking him inside the emergency room, the officers take him to the police station.
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the officers tase lambert multiple times. he's bleeding apparently from breaking the window. by the time they reach the police station, lambert appears unconscious in the backseat. he was later pronounced dead at the hospital after going into cardiac arrest. the report ruled the cause of death as cocaine intoxication, but the family blames police and filed a $25 million wrongful death lawsuit alleging, quote, the officer's callous disregard for lambert in tasering him multiple times and depriving him of the medical care he needed violated his constitutional rights to be free from cruel and unusual punishment. they denied allegations saying erratic actions required the use of force. pamela brown, cnn, washington. we want to get to the police side of things. they released a statement saying, quote, we are vigorously
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defending the case. our position is affirmed by two independent experts in the field. cnn tried to reach both police who are investigating the death. so far, no response. let's bring in legal analyst joey jackson. and cnn law enforcement analyst and former officer jonathan gill yum. watching that over, i have seen it three times. my first question is despite all of this, why wouldn't the officers have him on the ground in front of the hospital just take him to the hospital? >> that's what we're discussing before we came on here. there seems to me that there's some type of break down in policy with this department or at least policy in training on a daily basis because what you see here with this individual is, first off, i do commend the officers for using less and lethal. some officers might have shot
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him. they use less than lethal force, but there has to be standards where it says if this doesn't work this many times, you have to move to the next less than lethal. at that point he was at the hospital. he should have been put on a gurney because most police department s stipulate if someone has done a drug and they tell you -- >> which he did on the ground. >> or saying they have an illness or their heart or breathing problem, you take them to the hospital before you take them to jail. that's the breakdown. >> that's unissue. the second is you have the family. let me play some of the sound from the family attorney. they are saying it was the medical examiner who ruled this acute cocaine intoxication. they are blaming police. here's the attorney. >> it's intentional. there's no accident here. it wasn't accidental that they tased mr. lambert the first time or the second time or the third
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ti time. we know from discovery, the tase sor logs, that they were discharged 20 or more times. the conduct is unconscionable. >> let me add quickly, we have not been a able to verify how many times he was tased. that said, your response to that. >> i believe what is verified is that the taser was deployed 20 times over half an hour. how many of them hit him is another issue. evaluating this, you can't e evaluate it in isolation. you have to look at each element as a whole. when he he breaks out the window and runs, the officers have some concern. is he going to run into the hospital. if so, would staff be in danger. would medical people be in danger so they are required to act. so there was a taser deployed. multiple people using a taser at that point, i question the wisdom of that. now it goes from them tasing him when he's getting into the
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hospital to he's now on the ground in handcuffs. they put shackles on his feet. he's tased yet again. now you know that he's in dire medical straits. they have brought him there to begin with to get medical evaluation. there would have been a simple neither bring him into the hospital. they instead bring him into the squad car where he's tased yet again and fully in a position where he cannot represent or pose any danger or threat. that's troubling and problematic. >> what i don't see here is that i didn't see these officers doing this, tasing multiple times to punish this individual. i saw them tasing because he continued to fight. then when they got him in the car, that was the one tasing i thought went above and beyond his actions. . i just think there has to be policy set to where because tasing can take somebody into cardiac arrest, especially multiple tasing at the same
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time, there has to be policy set. and again, we see this over and over again. we see people making bad decisions with their lives, which this individual did. and we see departments that don't have well thought out, well explained and well rehearsed policies. that's what leads to all this. >> there is is a policy. clearly the policy is when someone is under control, when they are in handcuffs, you are not to tase them. that's a violation of department policy. were they displuned in any way? no, they were promoted. now it gets to the issue in the event that the person is sha shackled and cuffed, why are you going to tase them? i do see the taser being used as a means of punishment. when he's in the patrol car, which we didn't sigh, he's not a a threat. he's nonresponsive. why are you tasing him? >> i think on the fwround trying to get hick shackled, he could still present a kick.
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at the point they are trying to restrain him, he's still a danger to these officers of injuring them. that's why they are using less than lethal force. >> you have o to e question it. was it proportionate? would a reasonable officer in the same circumstance done what they did? i don't think so. >> jonathan and joey, thank you very much. we'll follow it. thank you. coming up, we're also following that breaking story out of lebanon. an official with the red cross says 40 people have been killed, 180 to 200 wounded as a result of these two suicide bombings in beirut. a statement circulating online by isis supporters purporting the claim responsibility. we have new detail there is. stay with me. we'll be right back. if you quala sittingham's card today i can offer you no interest for 24 months.
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we continue on top of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin. more breaking news. new information out of beirut, lebanon, and this claim of responsibility from the suicide bombings specifically from isis. here's what we know at this moment. 41 people are dead and more than 200 injured after a pair of suicide bombings in a part of
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beirut here. this was right around 6:00 there time. so rush hour, residential area. you see glass, people wounded, pieces of clothing, pieces of store fronts littered throughout the streets here. the blasts rocked one of the largest and most well known r refugee camps in lebanon. the first carried out on an explosive motorcycle gathering. minutes later crowds gathered around the explosion. in a statement circulated online by isis supporters, the terror group has claimed responsibility for the blast, but let me. be clear, thus far cnn cannot confirm the authenticity of the statement making its way online. i have mooukichael wies here wi me. and colonel rick francona is also standing by.
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let me turn to you first, michael. based on what we know, time of day, maximum impact, rush hour, this part of beirut near this refugee camp putting all of those pieces together, what does it appear like to you? >> it's very clear they were targeting the shia. so the speculation now is that this is centrally blowback for hez baa. la -- hes baa la's deployment in syria. this isn't the first time. but it was true that these suicide attacks seem to be trickling off in lebanon. this is the problem. the syria conflict is not containable. if isis is responsible for this, then it represents a sort of very dire uptick in that level of hemorrhaging out beyond
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national borders. lebanese have been fearful that isis was coming to start waging violence and do it in a sectarian manner. . the stuff on social media, they claim the identities, there were three suicide bombers. the third guy was stopped. two of the bombers were palestinians and the third one was lebanese. it's also important to keep in mind, isis's predecessor used to recruit in palestinian camps. they used to turn people into jihadis. so they are looking to exploit that. and the palestinians pay the worst price because they are the most easy to manipulate given that they are a stateless people. >> i want to follow up with you in a second given what's at play with regard to the plane, the russian plane in sinai peninsula and what we have been reporting in sinjar and iraq. but colonel francona, your read
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on this? >> i think this was aimed at the shia. it's more coincidental. hezbollah was the target. this area u of southern beirut is a stronghold of hezbollah. probably the greatest concentration of supporters outside of the area. it makes perfect sense. why would isis go after hezbollah? they have taken a toll not on isis but the anti-regime rebels in syria. if it wasn't for hezbollah in iran, the syrian government would have fell in 2012. so there's a real desire to get them out of the fight. if they can create a significant emotional event in lebanon. then the lebanese families will say why are we involved in a
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syrian civil war. i think the read is right on. >> we know what's happening with the peshmerga fighters trying to grab this highway around sinjar. in between mosul and raqqa. that's what's happening there. and then number two, we have been reporting on the purported isis bomb on board that airliner so a all of this happening and would this be potentially -- >> it's characteristic of isis whenever they scene bat. l field losses in the so-called call fit. they plan these weeks or months in advance, but they can push the button and now is the time to do it. it stands to reason that this is what they are try iing to do. as they are being squeezed, you
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have this move waged by the kurds backed by u.s. and uk special forces on the ground. where as you point out, isis is route 66 between syria and iraq, they cut that off. the traffic going back and forth between the two countries and provinces in northern syria and northern iraq. it's not that they are completely resolidified, but it's going to intradikt their traffic. this is a perfect way to change the focus and international attention. look over here, don't look over here. because for them it's about the propaganda and moral. they want to continue recruitment efforts. it's it harder to do when it looks like they are losing. >> i have tamara, a reporter in this part of beirut on the ground there. it tell me your time, what does the scene look like? >> they have now car donned off
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the area. women crying. reports of injuries that we're hearing. we heard one story about a baby who died in the arms of his mother at the moments of death. and another of a young man. this is according to eyewitnesss. it's the scene of chaos. >> was this a direct -- does it a appear to be a direct hit on this refugee camp or was the camp nearby so others were hurt or killed as well? >> the camp is nearby. it
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it's. >> again, the numbers we have, 41 people culled, 180 or so wounded. we see the blood on the streets. we see the shattered glass. this was rush hour in a residential neighborhood. >> it's a residential popular neighborhood. >> thank you all so much. thank you so much. the breaking news in beirut happening on a critical day in the fight against isis and iraq as we were just discussing here.
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more breaking news out of new york. this federal jury has reached the verdict in the good fellows trial of the gangster. the man 80 years of age has been on trial for a string of charges including the heist at jfk that inspired the mobster movie more than a decade later. boris sanchez is on this for us. . what's the verdict? >> he's been found not guilty on
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three charges of racketeering and two counts of extortion. as you mentioned, he's 80 years old. this is a case that the government has been building for many years. the defense had argued that a lot of the witnesses that the prosecution put up were liars and ex-mobsters that allegedly worked with him for some time. and some of them even actually admitted to lying to the fbi previously. obviously, the jury felt that perhaps they weren't the most reliable sources for information. also there were extensive wiretaps on him for quite some time. however, there wasn't a clear indication on the wiretaps of anything that explicitly linked them to the crimes. many of them were generic sentences that were used to allude the fact they were involved, but the jury felt that it wasn't enough to prove that
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had he was guilty. we can tell you that as far as t he was very feisty and kind of laughed at some of the testimony against him asking what is this watergate and he also had to meet with the judge and his attorney because he felt that his attorney wasn't cross examining some of the witnesses strongly enough. the strategy paid off for him. he's been found not guilty and won't face any jail time. >> there you go. thank you so much. let's get back to isis. this is a key conversation we're alluding to a moment ago in iraq. we learned that u.s. troops are right now on the ground calling positions from the field in a major battle in the war on isis. war planes dropping bombs as
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they battle to take sinjar, a strategic town near the syrian border. take a look at the map. you can see this is the red area we're referring to sinjar mountain that would cut off the supply line between the isis stronghold mosul and the defacto capital in syria that is raqqa. but just as important as dividing the call fate is saving the thousands of religious minorities who live there. and it was sinjar, you remember this. . cnn witnessed the desperate and terrified people on the verge of slaughter. they were trap ped. these families trapped on this mountain top scrambling on to this military chopper to escape the terrorists and likely death or a life sold into sex slavery. our senior international correspondent nick paton walsh is near the front lines of this battle and joins me now. nick, talk to me. a little bit about the resistance the peshmerga are
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facing and this strategic piece of highway. >> what's important today is the measure of success the peshmerga appear to have had had. we were with them as they move ed to the west of the city of sinjar. that sits below the mountain, which they have held for a number of weeks, but moving around to the west, they were aiming to hit that main. route that runs between raqqa and mosul. there was a lot of power being used. but also hammering further to the west of sinjar what must have been isis positions. they kept using car bombs driven by suicide bombers to try and weaken the pesh mmerga. it seemed to have had better weaponry to use to stop those cars in their tracks and coalition air power. they seem to hit that road well,
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hold it and move in towards cities, but isis still inside that city center. we don't know how many. there could be 600. they are increasingly surrounded by the pesh mmerga, but the optimism we heard fus thing in the morning is we can do this in hours, days, that melted away. the peshmerga constantly finding road side bombs in their path. that slowed them down. . they hope to finish this in the days ahead. they have a lot of u.s. assistance in the skies and on the ground too helping the planes be accurate, but if it turns into a fight for a center, that could be fas naty. >> and again, just quickly, you mentioned this a second ago. the war planes, their role in all of this? >>. >> reporter: it's simply to whenever they see an isis vehicle to hit it with a blast. that means some roads. they can simply deny the ability to isis to move down it. that's important because often the peshmerga can be light.
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and that gives them extra defenses. but the border issue is reversing that moment you mentioned earlier about sinjar falling to isis. there are few civilians inside the city now. it's a hard question o to answer. but it's really about returning that town to them who live in the mountain in freezing cold temperatures. many many of them want to go back. >> nick paton walsh, thank you so much. excellent reporting for us in iraq. still ahead on cnn, a utah judge orders a 1-year-old child out of a foster home where she's lived for months and months. why, because her foster parents are gay. details on this controversial case. [ male announcer ] whether it takes 200,000 parts, ♪
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wrongful death lawsuits, but how about wrongful births. . this is being claimed in this lawsuit against a pharmaceuticals for mislabeling birth control pills for more than 100 women and followed the package directions but because of mislabeling the women were not protected from pregnancy. when one attorney talked a year after the pills were recalled quoting the report here in part, he described one client in the military who will have to give up her baby for adoption because is she was getting ready to be deployed. . he noted that there are 17-year-olds who became pregnant. other women had to drop out of law school and nursing school. this is obviously a huge deal. so with me now is an associate professor and attorney janet johnson. ladies, thank you for being with me. dr. debbi, first to you. we hit on it quickly, but how
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exactly did they screw this up so badly? >> birth control pills are different than regular pills. you don't get them in a bottle, you have to follow a specific order. you take 21 days of active pills chrks are hormones that interfere with your psych until a way that the egg never gets released from the ovary. then you give your body a break that take seven pills with no hormones and you get your period. you keep repeating that cycle and by sticking to that routine, you prevent an egg from being released from the ovary. if the egg never escapes, the sperm can never get to it. >> they flip-flopped the packaging. >> whenever there's confusion or same thing if someone skips a pill, then the body has a chance to get back to its normal hormonal cycle. sometimes that can cause ovulation and that egg to be released. >> we got that part. we all understand how birth controls are supposed to work.
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jan janet, to you. this is a massive screw up, yes. here's the thing. to seek millions of dollars in damages and in some cases here, they want the cost of raising a child as a result of these unplanned pregnancies. here's a fun fact and i bet a lot of parents will say it costs me a lot more, but the last time cnn checked it cost $245,000 to raise a kid until they are 18. are they really going to get that? >> nope, they are not. there are two things that will be hurdles for this lawsuit. one is they have to prove that it was a defect that caused these pregnancies. and the doctor can attest to the fact that the birth control is 98% effective if used correctly. they'd have to show they didn't make a mistake in user error. they got one of the packages and that's going to be hard to tell throughout the packaging after they take the pills. the other issue is a judge isn't going to say and a jury as well that there was no joy in raising that child.
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the child was just pure damages. judges don't want to say baby. s are damages. so what they will probably get is prenatal care, the cost of delivery, maybe some pain and suffering if there was an abortion. just the cost of the abortion, but they are not going to get all that money. >> i'm listening to you, but would the fda, would that help their cases with the voluntary u recall? >> that's a great point. it doesn't because something that a company does is not admissible in court. so they couldn't say they fixed the situation so we know that they were guilty of something. they only know of one case and we're talking about over 100 cases nape only can identify one case where that happened. so there was a mess up, but they are not admitting liability. >> how the heck would they be able to prove that because of this specific thing and these
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pills was the result of my unplanned pregnancy. that's impossible. >> especially because as january et pointed out a that a lot of women forget to take pills every day. so that drops down to the 80% level. that's an issue. one thing in their favor, it's hard to find just one package that's mislabeled. a lot of places what they will do is work with a factory to package these pills. so if one had an actual mislabeling and can prove that, the rest of the pills that were in that batch maybe had an issue as well. >> can i stay with you. i'm channelling the women watching and thinking that's even a thing that somebody could mislabel pills. is there anything to the naked eye when you get your pills you can look at and say, okay, this is not right? >> to some degree if the colors don't match. if this is the pill you're working with, the a active pills are all the same color and placebo are a different color.
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and if it changes motto month, that's an issue. but as long as you're taking 21 pills of the active pills and go to the regular placebos, you should be okay. hearing cases makes you wonder these aren't things you normally think about. it makehouse wonder about what kind of medications you're getting. >> it does. thank you so much. janet johnson, thank you. ladies, i appreciate it. what a story. want to take you back to our break. ing news. isis supporters claiming responsibility for the suicide bombings in beirut, lebanon. dozens killed, hundreds injured. a lock at the possible motive targets here. more on the breaking news, after this.
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here's an update on our breaking news out of beirut. an aparent claim of responsibility for these suicide bombings specifically from isis. here's what e we know. 41 people have been killed here. rush hour, residential neighborhood, southern beirut. more than 200 people wounded after the suicide bombings there. the explosions were moments apart. the first blast came from a a motorcycle covered in explosives. the second just minutes later. and you see all the traffic here on the street. crowds were gathering, many people trying to rush in to help these victims. we're also learning in a statement posted online by isis the terror group is claiming responsibility for these blasts. cnn cannot confirm the authenticity of that statement. paul crookshank joins me with the latest. you have new information to add to what we have been reporting.
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>> that's right. a lebanese security source says that three local leaders in southern beirut were killed. the source saying they were in the wrong place at the wrong ti time. stronghold this appears to be a target against the shia. isis are claiming responsibility. they haven't offered proof they are responsible where this fits into. ambitions to plunge lebanon into. sectarian chaos. they are hope iing if it's them that hezbollah react against the sunnis inside lebanon and you had a a vicious cycle of violence. >> a cauldron of violence, they are trying to stir up because -- what's the hope for them? >> the more violence there is, the more the sunnis will be radicalized inside lebanon and the more e recruits they can get. but so far lebanon hasn't gone the way of syria and hasn't
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entered the abis. the memories of the civil war and factions have not allowed things to get out of hand so far. but isis is trying to change that. they are also trying to target hezbollah because they have been carrying out all these operations in support of the assad regime inside syria. >> the fact that this was 6:00 local time, a bustling part of southern beirut near a palestinian refugee camp, all of that and suicide bombings characteristic of isis? >> characteristic of al qaeda linked groups. there's a group in lebanon which is carried out a number of suicide bombings inside lebanon notably in november 2013 of the embassy in beirut. but isis very quick to claim this. they have also claimed other attacks against shia targets elsewhere in the region, notably
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in cokuwait and saudi arabia. what they want to do is plunge the entire region into a sunni/shia civil war to take advantage of the chaos. >> this may not be connected whatsoever, but when ithink of the timing we have been talking a bt the sinjar area of iraq and you see what the peshmerga. and u.s. coalition is a able to do in northern iraq here. would this at all be a result of that? >> it all plays to these broader sectarian tensions across the region where on the one hand you have shia groups like hezbollah. a shia majority government like the iraqi government on the other side, groups like al qaeda and isis. and as we move forward, this sectarian tension is only increasing across the middle east. it's just disturbing the trend lines we're now seeing. >> i have new information. let me. get this to everyone as we're covering this blast.
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the body of a third attack r who failed to detonate his suicide vest was found at the site of the deadly twin bombings in southern beirut. this is according to the lebanese army in a statement there. so the body found that didn't deploy. so potentially more violence they were hoping for. >> reports there were three suicide bombers, that one of the bombers wasn't able to detonate his devices. he was killed by one of the other suicide bombers and their blast. but very early stages in the reporting. they are trying to sort all this out, trying to see which group was responsible. isis does have a track record of opportunistically claiming attacks like this we need an investigation to find out who is really responsible. >> thank you so much. keep it here on cnn. we'll be right back. actually be exactly what i am.
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and help stop joint damage. enbrel, the number one rheumatologist-prescribed biologic. a utah couple hopes to adopt their foster daughter has been told no. it's not because this judge thinks they are unfit parents, it's because they are gay. becky pierce and april welcomed a a 1-year-old girl into their home in august and were hoping to move forward with adopting her and raising her along with their two biological children. everybody was on board including child and family services. the baby's mother wanted them to adopt this child. all except for this one very important man here, juvenile court judge scott johansen. he brought the plans to a screeching halt this week and
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ordered the baby to be removed from their home. >> he said through his research he found out that kids in homosexual homes don't do as well as as they do in heterosexual homes. and when they asked to show his research, he would not. it's heartbreaking because we have been told to care for this child like a mother would and i am her mother. that's who she knows. and she's just going to be taken away in seven days. to another probably good loving home, but it's just not fair. it's not right. it just hurts me really badly because i haven't done anything wrong. >> and then there was this. cnn received this response from the court. it reads "the utah code of
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judicial conduct prevents judges and court staff from commenting on pending cases. we do appreciate your taking the time to contact us about your concerns." so troy williams, the executive director of group that advocates for equal rights and troy, i can only imagine your reaction to that case. so here's what i want you to tell me. i know this judge here in order to back his ruling he cited some research, asked to produce the research, has yet to do so. do you know what he's drawing his research from? >> we can only assume that it's the mark story. he was the texas sociologist that the right wing folks have been using and pulling out that research as they were trying to make the case for why marriage equality shouldn't be the law of the land. his research has been debunked. it's been thrown out by any court that was presented. we're assuming that's the
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research. >> do you know -- are you in on the weeds as far as what the state of the case is? any movement whatsoever? >> april and becky have legal representation. they have a great legal team at their side. governor herbert, our very conservative governor who fought against marriage quality, he's concerned about this ruling. he says he's puzzled by it and concerned that the judge is being an activist from the bench. >> okay, i guess bigger picture we were thinking of what's happening in the past couple years here. . a gay ban overturned. this march in salt lake city, poised to have its first openly gay mayor. the judge is riding against the tides. what's at stake for the lgbt community? >> we have made tremendous gains in the past two years. we were the first red state to
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overturn a gay marriage ban and the only republican-controlled legislature to ever pass a pro lgbt bill in the nation. when you make such great strides, we do anticipate that there will be a a backlash. we're seeing if across the country. we're seeing it in houston, texas and we're seeing it in utah in carbon county. we're confident this ruling is egregious and also unconstitutional. and this is just a small setback. we are on the path to progress. we're going to keep moving forward. >> troy williams, thank you very much. we'll stay in contact. ashleigh banfield talked to one of the moms earlier today. thank you, sir. >> thank you. coming up next, an army of veteran awarded the purple heart and followed his dream to play football in college is being honored tonight in new york. he will join me here onset on this day after veterans day.
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all right. after all the build up, all the controversy, the official ratings are in for this past weekend. donald trump's appearance as host of saturday night live, and it turns out they were huge. a lot of people watched. the republican presidential candidate host the hour and a half long show live here from 30 rock. so let's go to our senior media correspondent brian steltser with the official numbers. do tell. >> yes, brooke, there is this trump ratings bump we've seen for months. and here's evidence of it. "snl" usually gets 5 million or 6 million viewers, but with donald trump had more than 9 million viewers. >> wow. >> millions of people tuning in that don't normally watch but they did thanks to donald trump. you know, it wasn't very well reviewed, but that really didn't matter because donald trump was able to do basically a free campaign ad at least for a few
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minut minutes. remember how larry david said trump -- >> right. is he going to get the $5,000 or what? >> the group's been trying to reach him. the group that pulled off that stunt has been trying to reach larry david. they want to pay him the $5,000 but they can't get ahold of them. right now they're thinking about giving it to bernie sanders instead. >> something tells me larry david does not need it. he could donate it i suppose. brian, thank you so much. tonight is a big night here in new york city. a remarkable veteran will be honored here in new york. iava selects one outstanding vet each and every year. and this year it is daniel rodriguez. and what a story he has. his service in afghanistan is enough to earn praise and honor. he fought in one of the bloodiest clashes there. the year was 2009. eight americans lost their lives in a battle that lasted more
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than 12 hours. another 22 were wounded including rodriguez himself. so in the wake of that he earned not only a purple heart but a bronze star. and that is just the start of his story. apparently he had other dreams as well, dreams of playing football at an elite level. and so he produced his own college recruitment video. and enough people saw it including the coach there at clemson university to have him walk-on. and he played in 37 consecutive games, but apparently he wasn't finished with that. he has played for the st. louis rams. and this sunday he'll be back as their honorary captain. so without further adieu, my goodness, daniel rodriguez sitting next to me all smiles here. ceo and founder of iava, i have paul rykauf, a friend. wonderful to see you, so awesome to meet you. congratulations and thank you, thank you, thank you both for everything you've done. >> thank you. >> let me just begin with take me back to october 3rd, 2009,
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talk to me about how bad that was? >> it was horrible. we kept getting reports that we were going to get overrun by 300 plus taliban for about over a month. it was just one of those things we thought they were crying wolf. every time we would hear the chatter. on october 3rd i went to use the computer on any given day and rockets just started coming in and they didn't stop. i had about a 300-meter run uphill to my fighting position. ended up taking some shrapnel in my legs, bullet fragment through my shoulder. my good friend was killed in front of me. >> in front of you. >> yeah. we lost eight americans in the fire fight. i was fighting for my own quarters. everything was burned to the ground. everybody thought everybody was dead. i have a vivid image of the taliban just walking into our base with their weapons slung because they'd overrun us. it was kind of a very daunting day, if you will. but we fought back. ended up getting everything situated. where he did take casualties but at the end of the day we won the fight. >> wow. just take a minute on that one. so you came home awarded the bronze star, the purple heart,
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initially before we get into football what was being home like? >> it was tough. just the adjustment. i had nobody around me who knew what i was going through. when i came home from iraq i at least had friends that understood what i was going through overseas. when i came home and out of the military i found myself at home alone and with ptsd and on the verge of suicide. it came back full circle when i wanted to keep a promise to a friend. and that's what got everything rolling for me to potentially play college football. >> you said, you woke up one morning and said it starts today. >> it starts today. >> what's the it? >> it is just changing it. i felt i had been given a second chance at life. and if i didn't do something positive with my life then my friends that gave their life for this country it's almost in vain. so who am i to live a lazy or selfish life? i wanted to change everything about the way i was living and pursue to try to be great and be great with whatever i do. >> i'm getting to the football,
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but looking at you we all understand why we're honoring this man tonight. >> this is what it's all about. this is what our veterans movement is all about. showing people you can go through a lot but come out on the other side and be stronger. we call it the vets rising movement. and daniel's a tremendous example of that. so tonight we're humble to be anyone a toibl honor him. but also gives us a chance to reflect on the sacrifice and leadership of over 3 million men and women who served in iraq and afghanistan. that's what veterans day is all about. we're honored to celebrate him but also give folks a chance to hear his story and understand veterans aren't broken, they're not damaged. they're leaders and they can adapt, improvise and overcome and go all the way from afghanistan to the st. louis rams. incredible american success story. >> before we get to the rams, i'm with you as a southern girl i appreciate my college football, to clemson here. so you decide you get this recruitment video going, coach at clemson takes a look. but this was about more than just being this, you know, patriot playing football. you know, you talk about wanting
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grass stains on your uniform, and you got them. >> exactly. >> what was a major moment for you in all those games? >> i think really just kind of solidifying myself that i can play the game. you know, i felt that i was feel good story at first coming in but i really wanted to prove i could play the game. i put so much work into working out and putting myself in the best position to get on the field. and it came like my second season i scored a touchdown and it was one of those moments where i just realized that i kind of did it. i made it. so it was fun. and just being able to play in consecutive games on special teams, punt returning, playing with great nfl players now, the camaraderie back in the locker room is what i wanted. it was a great run and i miss it already. >> what are you doing right now other than inspiring everyone in this room and people in the room tonight when we're all together? i mean, you're speaking -- >> yes, i speak full time. i'm on the speaker circuit. pretty busy with that. still training full time hoping to get back into the nfl, i've talked to canadian teams and european teams, whatever
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presents itself i want to make the most of it and continue to do what i do. >> make the most of any. beyond these people who have these outstanding stories, 45 seconds, i mean, there are veterans among us. i have veterans in my family. we all know veterans, how can we be better humans and americans for our veterans? >> well, be a part of the veterans movement. go to and sign up. you can live stream the event that daniel's at tonight. you can share that with your friends from the comfort of your own home and see what the movement's all about. but the key is to make every day veterans day. we came together as a nation yesterday. iava led 144 vet get togethers across the nation. everybody watching can help us do that. >> i asked him where his orange bowl ring was, but he told me he has an orange bowl watch on. >> got some clemson socks on. >> he's got some swag. i'll see you tonight in tuxes little later. iava if you don't know it, get to know it. daniel and paul, thank you so,
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