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>> he made it clear which side the u.s. is on when it comes to the nato allies dispute with russia. moscow is still outraged with the downing of a russian bomber near the turkey border last week. president obama was put in a position of playing referee, meeting with both putin and erdogan. here's what he had to say. >> i want to be very clear. turkey is a nato ally, along with our allies, the united states supports turkey's right to defend itself, air space and territory. we're very much committed to turkey's security and sovereignty. as i mentioned to president erdogan, we all have a common enemy. that is isil. >> reporter: for its part, russia insists turkey is simply
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trying to protect an black market oil supply from isis terrorists, an accusation erdogan vehemently denies. the white house still saying there's no agreement on an agreement to go after isis. this talk about isis here at this climate summit has overshadowed much of the work that these world leaders have had to tackle when it comes to controlling global warming. chris? >> no question about it. just the beginning of the dialogues. yes, jim, i said avila because we worked together at abc news and he is a dear friend. jim acosta. we'll want to hear what president obama thinks the process was here and against the war in isis as well.
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russia's moving surface-to-air missiles to a base near the turkish border. u.s. officials say this move could put american combat aircraft at risk. putin reportedly ordering the missiles to syria after turkey shot down one of its airplanes. barbara starr alive from tis li pentagon. >> reporter: this missile system now active, up and running according to u.s. defense officials. this is the russian s-400, a massive anti-air missile system that can target and potentially shoot down aircraft all the way into turkey. this is causing a good deal of concern. just yesterday, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general joe dunford had his first telephone call with his russian counterpart. they won't say what the two men talked about. it's clear all of this on the top of the agenda right now because it puts the pentagon in the position of trying to figure out what to do next.
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they don't believe, of course, that the russians have any intention of shooting down u.s. aircraft, of attacking the u.s., but it's a capability that is out there now that u.s. pilots are very aware of and will have to deal with. chris? >> it's certainly a factor, they didn't want to add to the equigs. can we discuss what we know now about this threat in kabul? we were reporting on it yesterday. what's the latest. >> about another 24 hours to go on that 48-hour window. the u.s. embassy warning americans to be extremely careful. they believe in this 48-hour window, the threat of around imminent attack in kabul somewhere. they don't know where. they believe it is a very credible and active plot. u.s. military officials telling me they believe the hakani network may be behind it. this is a group of terrorists that have operated in that area for years.
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very well organized. they have been trying to attack kabul and succeeded many times in the past. that underscores the level of concern at least for another 24 hours, chris. >> barbara starr, we know you'll stay on that for us. appreciate it. alisyn, back to new york. we're monitoring the security situation here, so far, so good. sirens in the back ground ready a part of the daily course here in paris. on to politics. donald trump had an interesting rally in georgia last night. the rally was notable for both what trump talked about and what he left out. cnn's athena jones is live from washington for us. athena, tell us about it. >> good morning, alisyn. it seems like every week we're talking about trump doubling down or tripling down on some controversial comment he's made. so it's interesting to note that he did not repeat his claims about celebrations on 9/11. he did repeat his attacks on his rivals in both parties and he
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predicted that soon more of them may be attacking him. >> for more than a week now, donald trump has claimed that he sought thousands of muslims in america celebrating after the 9/11 attacks. >> i watched in jersey city, new jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering -- thousands of people, believe me, because they saw it. >> there's no evidence of such a scene and on monday night, trump avoided rehashing his claims. >> there's only one way you get to the top and it's all through trump. let's face it. >> trump instead going after his opponents, attacking democratic front-runner hillary clinton. >> she doesn't have the strength or the stamina to be president. she just didn't. she doesn't. >> reporter: attempting to ward off attacks from republican rivals by anticipating their jabs. >> christie hasn't hit me yet. he will. he has to. he has no choice. cruz will have to hit me. he's a nice guy.
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everything i've said he supported. it will be a sad day but we will hit back, i promise. >> reporter: new jersey governor and 2016 hopeful chris christie now joining the list of critics taking on trump's 9/11 claims. >> it's wrong. it's just wrong. it's factually wrong. >> reporter: earlier monday the candidate emerged from a closed-door meeting with black pastors. >> it was an amazing meeting. >> initially reported as a sweeping endorsement, trump's camp was later forced to pull back that claim as several of the attendees clarified they were just there to talk. >> i'm not here to endorse mr. trump. it's very unfortunate the way he has talked to not just the african-american community but things he said about women and mexicans and muslims. it's very discouraging. >> reporter: it's noteworthy to see the trump campaign to have to take a step back on this black pastors issue after several of them said they weren't planning to endorse.
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it's the first time i can think of that he's walked back something. trump will be in new hampshire tonight. we'll be watching closely to see what he has to say there. alisyn? >> of course. thanks so much to break that down. here with analysis is senior politics editor for the daily beast, jackie kucinich and journal, ron brownstein.l - great to see you guys this morning. >> good morning. >> let's talk about what chris christie said about trump. you can get get too far way from trump. chris christie has probably gone farther. you heard a snippet about trump's claims that these extremists were celebrating on 9/11. listen to jamie gangel talk to chris christie. >> he insists he's double down and tripled down that he saw thousands of muslims celebrating after 9/11 in jersey city.
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then he says from four miles away in his office he could see people jumping from the world trade center. do you believe that either of those things happened? >> no. all i know are the facts, you know, that what went on that day in new jersey was not anything like what he said and there's no film or video of it to prove it. he says he saw it on tv. it didn't happen. >> did it happen? >> no. >> absolutely not? >> no. >> so why don't you call donald trump out on this? he's doubled down, he's tripled down. >> what's the use? everybody knows it didn't happen. everybody knows it didn't happen. what's the use? >> yes or no, is it outrageous that donald trump keeps saying these things? >> it's wrong. it's just wrong. it's factually wrong. everybody else can determine what they think is outrage or not outrageous. in the context of donald, outrageous is a high bar. >> jackie, what do you think
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about everything chris christie just said there? >> he's absolutely right on two points. you know, what donald trump says, it didn't happen and outrageous is a very high bar for donald trump. it's notable that chris christie came out a little bit further, initially when he was asked about trump and the situation, the alleged situation in jersey city, he said i don't remember that happening. it seems like chris christie with union leader endorsement yesterday has a little bit of the wind at his back and he's a little bit more of the confident christie that we're more used to seeing before the presidential race sort of took its toll early on. >> she said, why don't you call him out? he said, what's the use? everyone knows it didn't happen. but does everyone know it didn't happen? is he making the logical leap
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there? >> no, i don't think so. auditioning for the role of the one who will stand up to trump for the part of the party that is most resist and to the him. as we said before, the equation on trump is more complicated than many people portray it as. the more outrageous he gets, the more he deepens his hole on his piece of the party. they feel like they're at an apocalyptic position in the party. the polling is very clear, there's a big chunk of the republican party, particularly among college educated republicans who are much less enthusiastic about trump, much more skeptical of everything that he stands for and the way he presents it. what we're seeing from christie who is competing for those voters is an understanding that one of the things he needs to do in that lane is show that he's willing to stand up to some of trump's more outrageous statements. >> ron, i have to tell you,
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obviously we're over here in paris. i want to ask you about the piece that he did on president obama and what he did here on the climate versus what he's been able to get done politically. i don't get this situation. i don't get way the media keeps talking about it, other than trying to prove the nonexistence of a fact, proving that something did not happen. anybody that thinks that happened either saw it themselves and can't prove it or just are believing a mythology because it suits their feelings about this community in general. but i don't get why we keep stringing it out there like it's a possibility. it's bizarre-o world. help me understand why we're still talking about it and then get to the politics of the climate. >> the platform that he has, he has had the ability to lead the media by the nose into some of these cul-de-sacs that he
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creates with these assertions. the tweet about the share of white murder victims that are killed by african-american assailants that was wildly wrong. this is a pattern. by way, chris, it is not a random pattern. the misstatements are not all over the place. they tend to reconnell firm as you suggest negative portrayals of different groups. these climate talks are striking. a few years ago in copenhagen, the international process appeared dead. obama is on the brink of an agreement that did not seem possible only a few years ago. really the turning point was his willingness to act unilaterally with environmental protection agency proposed rules to reduce carbon emissions in 2014. the agreement in china in november 2014 then subsequently set off a cascade of other countries feeling they had to step to the plate once china and the u.s. agreed. so what you've got is a situation where he has really
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broken what had been historically the biggest source of opposition reluctance of the developing countries to act and now probably the biggest resistance he faces is from the red states in the u.s. the house of representatives voting to block it. almost all republican-controlled states and the court suing to block it. it's a striking turn of events where the biggest source of resistance is no longer countries like china. it's really the red states in the u.s. that are owe mopposed ideologically and interest reasons. >> let's talk about this pastor's meeting. >> i just asked him because that's the talk here. >> good. that's excellent. >> i was saying alisyn, i asked that question because they couldn't get a legally blinding agreement. >> thank you. these darn satellites and the delay. jackie, about the pastors meeting, this is interesting. this is the first time in real time we get to watch donald trump's impression of something
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against the reality of what the pastors say. >> yes. you really did see them have to back pedal. the trump campaign got ahead of their skis. when you have a group of pastors saying, no, we're not going there to endorse, a couple dropped out at the last minute. others said we never endorsed anyone. why would we be endorsing this guy? they got caught. i don't know if it was a lie or exaggeration. they got caught. they had to pull them back. they didn't have anyone backing them up at the end of the day. >> thank you. we covered a lot of ground. we'll have more of jamie gangel's interview with governor chris christie later this hour. a just released report shows four rounds of technical problems and resulting actions by the pilots doomed airasia flight. the rudder system malfunctioned
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repeatedly. that plane crashed into the java sea killing all 162 aboard last summer. the state department releasing more e-mails written by clinton. among them, an exchange between clinton and her daughter chelsea. she told chelsea that an al qaeda-like group was behind the assault. republicans had blasted clinton for putting out a public statement that same night suggesting an inflammatory online video triggered the attack. a bran new police accountability task force will be announce. jason van dyke is released from jail after posting $150,000 bond. he is charged in the 2014 death of laquan mcdonald after dashcam video captured him shooting the black teenager 16 times. meanwhile, classes resume today at the university of chicago, now that a man suspected of threatening to kill students and staff is in custody. jabari dean allegedly took to
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social media warning that he wanted to kill approximately 16 white males on campus, apparently in retaliation and reaction to the mcdonald shooting. all right. we'll take a break here. when we come back, we'll be talking about what's happening here at the cop21 in paris. a lot of tricky politics. all countries are not equal. president obama making a big push but he has his own problems at home when it coulds to dealing with the climate. one of the key players is a woman trying to make a deal happen. she works for the u.n., in charge of the climate deal and she just spoke to cnn. christiane amanpour goes one-on-one with the head of the climb change bureau for the u.n. when "new day" continues. hi i'm heather cox on location with the famous,
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trying to make progress. now, the woman behind the scenes in charge of how the world handles global warming is u.n. climate change chief christiana fergaris. she just talked with christiane amanpour. >> this is the culmination of her life's work. other like the previous summits, kyoto or copenhagen which remains synonymous with fiasco, this one has top down attention with all world lead her came at the very beginning and many are still here. she said this was her assessment of why this one would be different. >> why are 183 countries from whom we have climate change, why are they doing this? none of them are doing it to
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save the planet. let's be clear. they're doing it for the benefit of their own economy. >> we'll have lots more of that through the rest of day. she said and admitted that one of the chief obstacles would be th so-called least developed countries led by india who say, frankly, you all had your chance. we are not 20 blame. you had your industrial revolution. that's going to be one of the biggest stumbling blocks, how they manage to get around that in the next two weeks and beyond, chris. >> what's her take on how on the one hand you have president obama as a big booster for the cause and back home he faces such stiff political opposition about whether or not warming even exists.
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>> well, obviously everybody is taking a lot of heart from the latest poll that's been published, i believe, in "the new york times." two-thirds of the american people say they want a climate deal. a lot of people are taking hope are not just from the american people but from people all over the world, whether in china or wherever who know on a day-to-day basis what climate change is doing this their environment. beyond that politically she said that this climate change agreement will be legally binding. i know this is a controversy right now, they are working towards that in whatever way, shape or political form is possible. they're working towards that given the obvious, you know, obstructs or obstacles in various capitals like the united states. but they hope by the end of this two weeks and beyond while all these negotiations continue that they will get something that is more or less legally binding by all parties. >> more or less in quotes.
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we got a sample of the emotions surrounding these talks behind you. what's going on with the chanting? >> do you know what, i was talking to you. i don't really know. i've just turned my head and i don't see them anymore. this is a place, obviously, where protesters for the climate and various activists have already joined in as well. and philanthropists and entrepreneurs and business people. there are a lot of side meetings swell the negotiations. also today, president obama will be meeting with the pacific islands group because those are governments and people who really face rising seas and obliteration of their habitat. it's all very, very intense here because people can see that this climate that we live in is making and already having life and death affects on them wherever they might be. >> well, thank you very much to introducing us to one of the players here, obviously figueres
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the accused planned parenthood shooter made his first court appearance monday, though he won't be formally charged until next week. it found guilty it could carry the death penalty. stevely elam is live with the latest for us. >> reporter: he appeared in court yesterday, robert lewis dear showing up in a padded vest. at some points looking groggy with his eyes closed as he listened to what his fate might
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be. on the minimum side, life in prison, on the maximum side he's looking at the death sentence. the formal charges will be filed on december 9th when dear has his next hearing. he is being held without bond. we are learning more about his past, his interactions with law enforcement. in 1997 his wife accused him of domestic assault, when he lived in south carolina. clarnlgs were not pressed in that. 2002 he was accused of being a peeping tom. those charges were dismissed. in 2003 he was arrested and charged with two counts of animal cruelty but he was found not guilty in those cases. keep in mind with what has happened here at the planned parenthood shooting that he is accused of, three people have died, two civilians, a police officer and nine people wounded including five police officers. you have a lot of witnesses who saw him in this action. his fate is likely that he will not see freedom again. alisyn, back to you. >> stephanie, thank you.
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we'll talk more about this in the program. what exactly set off that suspect in the planned parenthood shootings? is the political rhetoric on the campaign trail to blame? we take a closer look at that, next. hi i'm heather cox on location with the famous,
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investigators have yet to release a motive in the shooting at that colorado planned parenthood but some believe the gunman was influenced by overheated political rhetoric. joining us now to discuss this and more, republican oklahoma senator james langford. thanks so much for being here on "new day." >> good morning, alisyn. >> i know you reject the idea that this gunman was somehow influenced by the heated rhetoric around the abortion topic. since we do know from police that he was ranting about baby parts, how can you be so certain that there wasn't something in the rhetoric that ignited him? >> well, there's no way to know for certain, obviously. it's all speculation based on the comment that's been made out there. no one knows a motive as you mentioned before. i do grieve for the families in colorado as everyone else does in the nation. i find it completely irrational to say someone who stands up for
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life for children is taking the life of adult. it's completely inconsistent with the values of the pro-life movement that are passionate about protecting life, not taking life. to say someone is somehow on board with the pro-life community and is going out and killing people is very, very inconsistent with the values. this say loner who lived in a trailer by himself. he had domestic violence issues before. we don't know what set him off or if this was the latest. i find it difficult to fathom the conversation that people should not talk about the protection of children because someone could go out and kill an adult. those don't connect. >> a guest on anderson cooper last night does see a link between the rhetoric and the action. >> we've seen increased harassment at women's health centers, including planned
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parenthood. we've seen rhetoric demonizing women and many of the health care providers that provide services to women. i just think it behooves all of us in this country to look at these kinds of incidents and take stock of what we can do to prevent them in the future. >> senator, i mean, obviously talking about abortion is just one of the most heated topics we could ever talk about. you in congress are working to defund planned parenthood and of course that is your prerogative as a lawmaker. this is what lawmakers do, try to figure out who to invest in, what not to invest in. does she have a point that it would behoove everyone to take it down a notch in terms of rhetoric. >> anything that comes across as accostic or attacking women -- her comment was confusing to say this seems to be demonizing will. i haven't heard ever a comment that deemenizes women. what i've heard is the rhetoric saying why don't we consider children in this?
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these are individuals who have ten fingers and ten toes and unique dna. the real challenge for us is we do need to talk about these issues. like i mentioned, i don't hear people demonizing women in that comment. i would reject that. this is something similar to saying if the president and others talk about climate change, then the president's comments about climate change would be blamed for shooting in a coal mine. those two don't connect. you have an irrational person that does something. these are political statements and statements that america actually needs to talk about. if there's push back to say america doesn't need to talk about infants and children anymore, i would disagree with that. >> i want to move on to something i know that's near to your heart is a report you put out called federal fumbles. it's about federal waste. you have doozies in here that
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you've highlighted. $65,000 to study what happens to bugs in the dark. that is sort of curious by the way. $2.6 million, weight loss program for truck drivers. $43 million to build a gas station in afghanistan. how does -- honestly, how do these things get through congress? >> not just slip through congress, slip through the administration, slip through everyone. sometimes it's the incompetence of someone not paying attention. sometimes it's a failed project that's been failed for a long time and no one stepped up to lead. one of the big issues is irs i.d. tax fraud. there's a way for the irs to be able to have a double check to make sure individuals don't file on your social security number early and try to get a tax return and make it chaotic for you to file your own taxes. that's not been done. we've found ways the federal government has dropped the ball.
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these are not criticisms. these are lighting inefficiencies that we need to attack. my concern is a lot of people have taken their eye off of the debt issues. we have a major problem in debt with americas that we have to find efficiencies in government to get us back to a balanced budget we're still $450 billion in spending deficit this year. >> i do urge people to go online and look at your report. there's also a $40 million expenditure of taxpayer dollars to help donald trump build one of his luxury hotels. that's also an eyebrow razor. senator, thanks so much for being on "new day." >> you bet, alisyn. >> let's go to chris, live for us in paris. obviously we're here for the cop21 but we're also following the massive manhunt and terror investigation surrounding the summit here. the eighth attacker still at large, investigators now operating under the theory that he may have slipped through the dragnet and rejoined isis in
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french intelligence officials suspect that the eighth paris attacker may have escaped to syria and rejoined isis. belgian authorities say they have no indication of this though they always thought he might be headed there. let's bring in fabrice magnier. they can't find him. what's the theory? >> i think people are trying to understand what he's doing, so i think if we had the information about him being in syria, we should have it 100%. the question is, that guy should have explode himself during the paris attack. >> he was supposed to be one of the vest bombers. >> sure. we found his vest in the trash.
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that means he did not finish the job. also it looks like he didn't have a plan "b" because some guys from belgium -- very quickly. maybe he's in syria. my question is, this guy is enemy number one in europe. >> right. >> i think he doesn't have many friend friends who want to help him because there's radar on him. it's no so easy to quit europe in that case. secondly, what could be the attitude of his leaders in syria. >> of the isis guys. >> when he comes back and they say you didn't finish the job. that could go well or very badly. >> exactly. why did you not finish the job? looks like he didn't have the courage to do it. first thing, it's not so good for him. but they will have to protect him for a while before sending
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him back to europe to finish the job. you know? >> you think they might use him again? >> sure, sure. >> the question is now, is he in syria or not? nobody knows. >> they're looking for him. then we have the process of the manhunt. the belgian officials say we don't have word he's in syria. the belgians say we're not getting enough intelligence soon enough from the french. what is the dynamic here? what works, what works well enough? >> the two countries have to try to work together because they have to do it. we understand, in france, intelligence is fight huge. in belgium, it's not that case. it's much more different size. there are no so many dimensions. we can imagine french intelligence service more aware about the ongoing situation. but for sure, we try to work together. they always try to do it, to work together, especially for
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the direct traffic. because all those terrorist guys are linked with drug traffic. >> drug trafficking is usually a common lunk between these guys. >> right. they stop to deal with drugs because it's easy money. this is a way to become much more powerful and then they start to radicalize themselves and then they become activists. okay? so if it isn't syria, nobody should know. maybe it will be the first one to say, look, i'm here. i'm in syria. you know what i mean? >> it's very interesting, if he exploded the vest, he's a coward in the eyes of anybody who looks at it. to those guys when he goes back, he's a coward because he didn't do it. >> exactly. >> it will be interesting if word surfaces of him being anywhere else than in the vicinity. >> sure. >> fabrice magnier, i know you
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good to have you back with us here "new day." new jersey governor chris christie now one of donald trump's latest targets. christie is trying to turn the negative attention back on trump saying his most recent comments about new jersey muslims celebrating on 9/11 are just wrong. cnn correspondent jamie gangel sat down with christie. you had a sitdown with new jersey governor chris christie. >> right. it is game on between these two men. you're going to see trump taking to twitter and christie calling out trump for his recent comments but we started by asking about christie's new big endorsement. >> does this make you the come-back kid? >> we'll see. that will be determined on
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february 9th when we see how the votes come in. i think what it shows is that the work we've been putting in here in new hampshire, the plans we've laid out, that people are taking them seriously and taking them to heart. we're thrilled to have the endorsement. >> prediction today, chris christie could win new hampshire. >> sure. of course i could win new hampshire. anybody who's up here and watches any of it knows that i can. >> parentally this endorsement is enough to worry your friend donald trump. up to now, he has steered clear of criticizing you for the most part. but first thing this morning, he was on twitter. how is chris christie running the state of new jersey, which is deeply troubled, when he is spending all of his time in new hampshire? new jerseyians not happy. you say? >> i'm just so glad to be noticed by donald. isn't that nice? it's great. i'm happy to take whatever input he wants to give me in 140 characters or less which is
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apparently the way he communicates best. so, fine. >> is this a compliment that he's now taking a punch at you? >> who knows. jamie, it's like, i think i'm not going to play into the business of spending the precious time you and i have together talking about donald trump. i mean, he's just -- >> oh, yes, we are. >> he's just one of a number of candidates for us to talk about and chew over and i'm not worried about it. >> right. but he is the front-runner. you have avoided criticizing him. but he insists he's now double down and triple down that he saw thousands of muslims celebrating after 9/11 in jersey city. then he says from four miles away in his office, he could see people jumping from the world trade center. do you believe that either of those things happened? >> no. all i know are the facts, you know, that what went on that day in new jersey was not anything
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like what he said. and there's no film or video of it to prove it. he says he saw it on tv. it didn't happen. >> the first time you were asked about it, you said you didn't think it was true but you didn't recall it. as a former prosecutor, you know when a witness says i don't recall that, it sounds as if they don't want to answer the question. >> it's an honest answer. was not focused on everything else going on in new jersey that day. my wife and brother were both trapped in lower manhattan. i didn't know whether they were dead or alive. i don't think it happened but i have to put that qualifier in there because i was not completely focused on what happened. >> did it happen? >> no. >> absolutely not? >> no. >> so why don't you call donald trump out on this? he's double down, he's triple down. >> everybody knows it didn't happen. what the the use? join the cacophony? i'm about distinguishing myself and making myself different from everybody else in a 14-person feel. not the same.
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>> yes or no, is it outrageous that donald trump keeps saying these things? >> it's wrong. it's just wrong. it's factually wrong. everybody else can determine what they think is outrageous or not outrageous. in the context of donald, outrageous is a high bar. >> his latest controversy is that he is mocking a "new york times" reporter who has a physical disability. he now claims that he didn't know that the reporter had a physical disability. but if you watch the video, it's pretty hard -- >> i saw the video. >> do you think he knew what he was doing? >> it appears that way. but you know, he's got to answer for himself. i think part of the folly of all of this is that we're answering for him. he said what he said. now the people who vote will judge him. he shouldn't be making fun of people's disabilities. it's not just worthy of someone running for president of the united states.
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>> for someone who says to someone sit down and shut up, not to say what donald trump is doing is mean, outrageous, seems very -- >> pick whatever adjective you want. wait a minute. if i say something is not worthy of coming out of the president of the united states when the person who is saying it is a candidate for president of the united states, that's strong. >> you think that's as strong as sit down and shut up. >> sit down and shut up is a guy screaming at you in the middle of a speech. >> will you ever go after him? >> i will do what i think is best to win this race. i'm in it to be the next president of the united states because the stakes are too high to have a vanity exercise. >> i was just saying it's so interesting, jamie, measured reaction from him. but to that point about how he is taking on donald trump, do you think that will change?
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you think the relationship between the two will change the closer we get to new hampshire primary? >> absolutely. especially if christie starts going up in the polls. watch out in january. >> yes. >> if he becomes a real threat, donald trump's going to go full new jersey on him and christie will counterpunch. so i think january will be the test. >> all right. we'll be watching. thanks so much. we have part two of your interview with governor christie. you'll come back in the 8:00 hour with us. we look forward to that. certainly a lot of news to get to this morning. let's get right to it. >> 150 world leaders hoping to forge a deal to reduce carbon emissions. the two leaders are still at odds and appear to be looking right past each other as they met on the sidelines. >> we all have a common enemy. that is isil. there's only one way to get to the top and it's all through trump. let's face it. >> in the context of donald, outrageous is a high bar.
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i've never come across a situation where mr. trump said something that's not accurate. americans in afghanistan told of an imminent attack. >> al qaeda affiliated terrorists may be behind this threat. >> it's believed to be that this attack would be in part in competition with isis. welcome to your "new day." alisyn and mick are in new york. we are in paris with breaking news. calls for calm between russia and turkey as president obama sits down with them in paris. he's urging putin and erdogan to sit down together. all of this comes with 1 oo world leaders hoping to make a deal at the cop21. president obama will hold a news
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conference next hour before leaving paris. we'll bring that to you. let's go to jim acosta live at the summit with word on what progress has been made here. jim? >> reporter: chris, president obama just wrapped up a might be as you said with turkey's president erdogan, making it clear which side the u.s. is on when it comes to nato's allies dispute with moscow. russian president vladimir putin refused to meet with erdogan at this climate summit here in paris. that put president obama basically in the position of playing referee. mr. obama maintains turkey has a right to defend its territory and air space. here's what he had to say. >> i want to be very clear. turkey is a nato ally. along with our allies, the united states supports turkey's
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right to defend itself, air space and territory. we're very much committed to turkey's security and sovereignty. as i mentioned to president erdogan, we all have a common enemy. that is isil. >> reporter: for its part, russia is angrily insisting that turkey is trying to protect black market oil supply from isis, an accusation erdogan vehemently denies. we'll have coverage of president obama's news conference at 8:40 eastern, a final word from him before he departs from paris. we have new proof that russia is
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not on the same page with the coalition war against isis and that is word that russia is moving surface-to-air missiles to a base near the turkish border. that could put u.s. aircraft at risk flying over syria. vladimir putin reportedly issued the order a day after turkey shot down a russian warplane. more with cnn's barbara starr following the developments from the pentagon. barbara? >> reporter: good morning, chris. fast-moving developments in washington this morning. the chairman of the join the chiefs both scheduled to testify on capitol hill in just a couple of hours. this testimony comes as now those russian missiles are active in syria. the u.s. officials saying yesterday the s-400 system now up and running by the russians, the radar is active. this is a system that can reach out, see all the way into turkey, target and potentially shoot down aircraft. u.s. officials don't believe the
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russians are targeting u.s. aircraft. but, look, it is clear that u.s. pilots are aware of this, going to have to be very careful and the pentagon is facing the question of what it will do next with its air strikes to make sure u.s. pilots are kept safe. chris? >> interesting question, what aircraft russian missiles would be targeting in any air space other than the coalition aircraft. that will be the intrigue on that front. now, another another front there was a threat that came based out of kabul, a 48-hour window was involved. where are we on that? >> we are about halfway through that window. it expires early tomorrow morning. the u.s. embassy putting out a statement warning americans in kabul to be extremely careful that they had this 48-hour window, this information indicating a credible, imminent threat in kabul. the belief u.s. officials tell
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me, is that it is the haqqani network behind all of it. this is a well-known terrorist network that operates in pakistan, its operatives have been known very often to come across the border and stage attacks inside afghanistan. a very serious warning to americans in kabul if they're not already being careful to be even more careful, at least for another day. going back to those missiles, chris, you asked a really interesting question. who would the russians be targeting? the feeling is they are continuing to potentially target the turks. chris? >> all right. barbara starr, thank you very much. we know you'll stay on that threat story coming out of kabul. back to you in new york, alisyn. >> back here at home, there's politics to talk about. donald trump sharpening his attacks on hillary clinton. and his gop rivals at a rally last night but it's what trump did not talk about that's also making news. cnn's athena jones is live from
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washington with more. tell bus this rally. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. it seems like practically every week we're talking about trump doubling down or tripling down on some controversial statement he's made. so it's interesting to note that he didn't repeat his claims about celebrations on 9/11 last night at that rally. he did repeat his attacks on his rivals in both parties and he predicted more of them may soon be attacking him. >> reporter: for more than a week now, donald trump has claimed that he sought thousands of muslims in america celebrating after the 9/11 attacks. >> i watched in jersey city, new jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering -- thousands of people, believe me, because they saw it. >> reporter: there's no evidence of such a scene and on monday night, trump avoided rehashing his claims. >> there's only one way you get to the top and it's all through trump. let's face it. >> reporter: trump instead going after his opponents, attacking
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democratic front-runner hillary clinton. >> she doesn't have the strength or the stamina to be president. she just didn't. she doesn't. >> reporter: attempting to ward off attacks from republican rivals by anticipating their jabs. >> christie hasn't hit me yet. he will. he has to. he has no choice. cruz will have to hit me. he's a nice guy. he's been so supportive. everything i've said he supported. it will be a sad day but we will hit back, i promise. >> reporter: new jersey governor and 2016 hopeful chris christie now joining the list of critics taking on trump's 9/11 claims. >> it's wrong. it's just wrong. it's factually wrong. >> reporter: earlier monday the candidate emerged from a closed-door meeting with black pastors in new york city. >> i thought it was an amazing meeting. >> we asked questions. the questions were answered. we were all satisfied with the answers. >> reporter: initially promoted as a sweeping endorsement from these religious leaders, trump's camp was later forced to pull back that claim as several of the attendees clarified they were just there to talk.
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>> i'm not here to endorse mr. trump. it's very unfortunate the way he has talked to not just the african-american community but things he said about women and mexicans and muslims. it's very discouraging. >> reporter: it's noteworthy to see the trump campaign to have to take a step back on this black pastors endorsement. it's the first time i can think of that he's walked back something. he'll be in new hampshire tonight and we'll be watching very closely to see what he has to say there. alisyn? >> let's bring in someone who knows what happened on 9/11 better than most anyone. rudy giuliani was a mayor of new york city, also a 2008 presidential candidate. thanks so much for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> you were more plugged in and on the ground on 9/11 than anyone. were there thousands of muslims celebrating the towers coming down in new jersey? >> i sure can't say that. we tried to track the muslim community, actually, for a
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different reason the night of september 11, i said to the people of new york, i don't want you to take revenge, anger against people who are arab -- i'm not sure if i used the word muslim -- because we don't want to engage in group blame the way they did. it's a small group of people. they are determined, they're dangerous. we have to catch them and they deserve to be executed. but it's not everyone. i don't want the people of new york to act that way. the police department set up a unit and we kept track of it for about three or four weeks. we had some attacks and we did have some celebrating, that is true. we had pockets of celebration, some in queens, some in brooklyn. >> how many people? >> 10, 12, 30, 40. >> those weren't just rumors? >> no, no, no. >> you went out and checked them out? >> we had one situation in which a candy store owned by a muslim
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family was celebrating that day. right near a housing development and the kids in the housing development came in and beat them up. and i think both facts were corroborated to be true. they were celebrating that the towers had come down, some of thekies in the housing development got upset about it and they came in and did a pretty good job of beating them up. >> a handful of isolated incidents you're saying -- >> i was very proud of that. we expected a lot of it. bernie cakerrick was the police commissioner at the time. we expected acts of violence against people who appeared to be islamic. >> you expected acts against muslims. >> we had very little. we had language, yelling and screaming. i can't give you a count of the number of acts of violence. but nothing really serious.
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we did have some reports -- >> yes. >> of people celebrating that day while the towers were coming down. >> if there had been thousands of people -- >> that i think i would have known that for sure. >> yes. so donald trump is, therefore, not telling the truth? >> i think what he's doing is exaggerating. right? people were celebrating. he's right about that. >> you're saying a handful of people. >> i didn't see any evidence of thousands nor have i seen it since then of thousands of people. >> why do you seem to be hedging? why don't you say, no, that didn't happen? >> i don't know if that happened. >> you wouldn't have known if there were thousands of people in new jersey -- >> i think i would have known. >> you don't think that would have come through your office? >> i think i would have. i think i would have. i don't think it happened. he keeps saying it did. i don't want to say he's not telling the truth. >> why not? >> because let him deal with it.
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let him explain to people, let him show the evidence of it. if thousands of people were demonstrating, and he saw it on television, there must somebody tape of it somewhere. if it shows up, it will corroborate him. if it doesn't show up, it will make him look really bad. >> does the truth matter? >> of course the truth matters. to somebody who spent most of his life practicing law and watching people sworn on the witness stand, the truth matters a lot. >> what's going on in this election? why is donald trump allowed to say things had you said those things when you were running for president, what would ha happened? >> i would have been thrown out of the race. he's been a big personality. he almost like speaks in headlines, gets your attention and then a lot of the points they make is substantive. the headline turns out to be
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exaggerated. for example, from the very beginning, most of the people coming over are rapists, muremus and killers. wrong. most of the people coming over are good people. in between those good people there are rapists, murders and killers. >> is he doing a service or disservice to the republican party? >> i think he's helping the other candidates get a lot more attention than they otherwise would get. look at all the time we're spending on the republican primary. it gives a chance for chris christie, i saw the interview a few minutes ago. it gives a chance for chris christie to contrast himself and give his view point. it got, my gosh, the debate, got numbers i would have died for. >> yes. >> i wish i had 22 million people watching our debates back in '07 and '08. we had 11 debates. >> people are certainly more engaged. >> ittive goods the other candidates, if they're good, it
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gives them a chance to rise. i think that's why rubio is doing well. i think you'll see christie do a lot better now. >> trump -- >> it gets more attention, now you get your chance to make your case. >> chris christie as you heard in jamie gangel's piece, he was unequivocal, he says about the celebrating, it didn't happen. i would have known about it. there's no film or video to prove it. it didn't happen. >> he would have. he was u.s. attorney, i believe he was the u.s. attorney at the time. >> by the way, the attorney general of new jersey said it didn't happen. they were false reports. >> they would know. there were false reports of such things happening. >> there were false reports of celebrating. when they checked them out there were bogus. >> i didn't know that. there were false reports of celebrating in new jersey. i didn't track new jersey. i tracked new york. >> fair enough. >> there were no such large
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demonstrations. there were pockets of demonstrations which got me pretty darn anger. i kept my anger under control. anybody celebrating september 11 at that point, to me, the anger had to be -- i had to control. >> is it time for the other candidates like yanukovych s l calling out candidates like donald trump? >> i think they have. they also have to not take the bait. it becomes all about donald trump. here we are talking about donald trump. we've got a crisis in iran and iraq and syria. we've got the united states and russia unable to agree on what to do in syria with this tremendous divide over assad. we've got russian missiles. who the heck knows what they're doing to do to turkish planes. we have the climate summit. we've got -- here we are talking about donald trump. >> who do you think would be the
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best person to navigate through all of that as the next president? >> i think i've always thought jeb was the best qualified. in terms of just the range of qualifications. not sure he's the best candidate. i think christie, rubio are better candidates. trump is a better candidate. >> that's different. obviously being a good candidate is different than being a president. >> that's how you get nominated. that's why i think it will be very, very close. this is one where you'll see -- of the four people i just mentioned i think you'll see some of them win some of those primaries. this is going to get down to a new york primary, a california primary. >> you think those four -- you predict those four will be neck and neck. >> wait a second. on the right i think cruz is a -- i think cruz will be the huckabee or santorum of this -- >> of iowa. >> because i think iowa ultimately goes to the more religious right wing candidate.
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huckabee was the minister, santorum was the most religious right. huckabee beat me. santorum won. four years later he beat romney. they didn't get the nomination but they took over the right -- >> do you think cruz -- >> well, once cruz does that he takes over the right wing of the party. that keeps him in it for a long time. then new hampshire goes to somebody else. it could go to trump. it could go to christie. and it could go to rubio. those three. and does bush have a chance? yes, bush has a chance. bush still has a chance, particularly as we focus on national security and we focus on who's ready to protect the country. >> i'm going to ask you about this donald trump's meeting with pastors yesterday. he had said that he was going to get the endorsement of 11 african-american pastors. that didn't end up happening. it turned out it was more heated in the room. they objected to some of the rhetoric he's been using on the
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campaign trail. but once again, he didn't -- he said they supported him. you know, he -- >> he's the consummate performer. he's fabulous at handling interviews. he's fabulous at handling difficult situations and turning them around, making lemonade out of lemon. he's great at it. i mean, the reality is, that was probably -- i've had that happen. that probably was a staff screwup. unlike somebody else that would go -- he made it work right. as a politician, that's a heck of a talent to have. on the other hand, some of the exaggerations make you raise questions. >> rudy giuliani, thanks so much for being here on "new day." mark your calendars. the cnn republican debate is two weeks from tonight.
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wolf blitzer will moderate the last gop debate of the year on tuesday, december 15th, 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. michaela? the man accused of killing three people anding nine others at a colorado planned parenthood clinic made his first court appearance. robert dear being held on suspicion of first degree murder. as investigators try to determine a motive for the shooting rampage. stephanie elam is live for us. >> reporter: when you take a look at his first court appearance, he's wearing a padded vest and seems to be groggy through most of what he was being told his eyes were closed. he only spoke a handful of times. robert lewis dear is looking at on the minimum side, life in prison and on the maximum side, the death penalty. we'll find out the full charges against him at his next hearing on december 9th. we know he's being held without bond but we also know that he's had a history of a little bit of run-ins with law enforcement. nothing like he's been accused of so far.
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in 1997, he was accused of domestic assault in south carolina by his then wife. moving on to 2002, he was accused of being a peeping tom. those charges were dismissed. in 2003, he was arrested and charged with two counts of animal cruelty. but when that went to trial he was found not guilty. there's nothing like what he was accused of now, murdering three people outside planned parenthood and injuring nine people, including five police officers and there are plenty of witnesses on hand as well. so a lot here on the docket against robert lewis dear. >> thanks for that update. again, he'll face the former charges next week. we turn back to paris now and chris. >> all right, mick, obviously the cop21 summit is news in and of itself. it's even more important right now because of where it's taking place, in paris. there's an active manhunt going on right now obviously for this
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we have news in the terror investigation here in france. intelligence officials announcing that the fugitive paris suspect may have escaped to syria. this as we're learning new details about another wave of mass murder that the alleged planner of the attacks here in paris may have been plotting, again, to strike in and around this metropolis. joining us now is cnn terrorist analyst, mr. paul cruickshank and cnn counterterrorism analyst and former cia counterterrorism official mr. phil mudd. mr. cruickshank, i start with you. please excuse the sirens hear. just part of daily life in paris. what does it mean that there is somewhat of a disconnect between the french theory that this eighth attacker may have made it to syria and the belgian intelligence officials who say
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they have no reason to believe that. >> there's a short answer, they just don't know where he is. he could have got to syria. that's one theory that the french have but he could equally still be somey in brussels hiding out in a basement. his last known location was the saturday after the attack when he was transported by a friend to the brussels district of skarbik. there are places he could hide out if he has a sympathizer that the police don't know about. the police just don't know where he is. which is unfortunate because this is a guy that could be armed and dangerous. >> true. mr. mudd, wrap your head around this. if this guy did make it back to syria, what kind of welcome do you get there when you didn't go through the mission? that argues a little bit for his
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humanity. what do bad guys do with this? >> there's a small chance he never intended to go through it from the start. that he wanted to encourage his fellow attackers. speculation, cowardess or some sort of lack of courage that led him to stop with the mission is just that, speculation. once he returns, there's a couple things that will happen. first, the organization will try to use hill for propaganda purposes not only to show how they evaded european security services but to show potential recruits that there are people like them who have joined the organization and succeeded in staging attacks as tragic as what we saw in france. the last thing i'd say is the most worrisome. there will be very few people in isis who have the operational sophistication he has. how to operate before an attack and escape after an attack. the long-term implications mean that isis will use him to figure out what the next attack looks like and how to get around
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security services. >> although as you know, mr. cruickshank, right now, a lot of the intel officials are saying if he got through, he did it by luck. let me ask you, what is your take on the state of play with security in and around paris? i've been hearing that they're happy with how the summit has gone so far. they believe their hardest work is still in front of them. >> that's right. i think it will be very difficult for a terrorist group like isis to attack the inner perimeter of the summit, there's huge security. isis has been going after soft targets. so i think there is concern that they could strike somewhere else in paris, somewhere else in france. the network behind the paris attacks is largely intact. there are a number of french operatives who have climbed up the hikarchy of isis who were behind this attack and a number of other plots against france over the last year, chief among
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them, fabian klaan. we need to take isis at their word at that. the intelligence suggests, i've been told this by european security officials that klaan and others are recruiting more individuals from europe to join the islamic state and then sending them back to europe after quick training to plot new violence. >> also, phil mudd, there is another theory being worked by the intel community here that there were more attacks planned but not necessarily by the same team and that is energizing their efforts to figure out how broad this network could be. is that a same assumption? >> i think it's a safe
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assumption for a couple reasons. the potential targets would have been, if anything, more tragic than what we witnessed a few weeks ago. targets that included transportation. the same targets that al qaeda hit in london and madrid ten years ago. those would have been reinforcing security services worldwide that isis was trying to reach the level that al qaeda reached when it tried to shut down transportation with attacks against aircraft and metros back in the heyday of isis. the other thing i'd say, chris, that we haven't talked about, we're focused on the soda straw of the events in paris. when you get a cell in syria, a cell within isis that's dedicated against foreign targets, what we call external operation cells in the intelligence world is not going to stop as long as it has senior operational planners who have staged what they view as a major success. they're going to say, especially if they have abdul salaam back in the organization, what's that
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target and how do we make that target bigger than paris a few weeks ago? until the leaders in that cell are destroyed, they'll go on to plot again. >> cruickshank and mudd, thank you very much. >> thank you, chris. >> appreciate the analysis as always. alisyn, back to you. is donald trump now retreating from his claims that he saw thousands of extremists in new jersey celebrating on 9/11? we talk with radio host hugh hewitt about it all. stick around. that's awesome. i like it. i love it. that's a really good deal. i think it's actually a great deal. i think this feels really good. holiday gift, christmas gift. this would be the best any gift. bar none. can i have the keys? wrap up the deals and wrap up the year in a new chevy. find your holiday bonus tag and get $2,500 total cash allowance on select chevy malibu limited vehicles in stock. can i take it home today? oh no... (under his breath) hey man!
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republican debate december 15th. i don't know if you caught the interview i did with rudy giuliani. we talked a lot about trump and his relationship with the truth and rudy giuliani's take on it is basically trump plays by different rules. i asked rudy giuliani what would happen to you if you made some of the claims that donald trump had when running for president? >> i would have been thrown out of the race. he is judged by a different standard. maybe it's because of his background on the apprentice and an entertainer and the fact that he's been a big personality. he almost like speaks in headlines, gets your attention. and then -- and then a lot of the points he makes are substantive but the headline turns out to be exaggerated.
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>> so hugh, what do you think about that theory, that he's judged by a different standard, maybe because he's an entertainer? >> i watched with your interview with rudy. terrific interview, alisyn. when the mayor said there were pockets of demonstrators on 9/11 that were celebrating, i thought donald trump has another data point that he's going to combine with the fred siegel column in "the new york post" that made that point and with "the washington post" contemporaneous report and donald trump will love that interview. i sat there thinking to myself, he is continuing to put together a harvard business school case study in building brand. donald trump is simply above this. and i wouldn't be surprised by anything that he does. i wouldn't be surprised if on the day after christmas he exits the race, throws the bottle to ted cruz and has built the value of trump tower and every trump property around the world ten-fold by simply using the platform that media has given him. he's something of a marketing genius.
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>> you covered donald trump for years. what do you think about rudy giuliani's notion that trump is in a category of his own, held to a completely different standard? >> i think rudy's right. he's entitled to his opinion and certainly when people say things that are wrong you don't get to choose your own facts. that's the bottom line in this situation. i think it's frustrating from a media perspective. i don't know why it continues to get attention. he's wrong. there weren't thousands of people celebrating. were people celebrating after 9/11? yes. is it wrong? yes. should you say says were? no. why? because it's an accurate and it feeds a per section of muslim-americans that is just dangerous. he's wrong. he can say that he's not wrong all he wants. many supporters will believe him because he has an unusual connection to his support which i think does come from part of his popularity and also part of it is what he is selling them, which is their own anger and reasons for solution of that anger. but in terms of how you cover
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him, hugh does a great job of it when he has people on. so do you. you have to test him. so it's harder with donald trump. he's a better advocate for himself than most politicians are but he's still wrong about this. at the end of the day, wrong is wrong. >> hugh, you can hear chris's frustration. this has had legs and has gotten attention in the media. are we wrong in the media to play it again when he says a falsehood and something that's de-monday straab mon str-monda- untrue? >> you do what you just did with rudy giuliani. there is no evidence to show there are thousands and thousands. there are some anecdotal evidence that there were some
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pieces of sell brau s of celebr. something else rudy told you, all the republicans should be thanking him for building this enormous audience, whether it's ted cruz or marco rubio or chris christie or jeb bush or any of the top-tier candidates, even the second-tier candidates should send donald trump chocolates for christmas because he's created for them millions of eye balls. during that debate, if they point out that yesterday, for example, new e-mails showed up that make it abundantly clear that mrs. clinton lied during her testimony before the benghazi committee about not receiving e-mails on her private server the night of benghazi, then they will have used the platform that donald built for them. i don't think anyone is upset with donald. i don't think the media has done anything wrong. it's its own unique situation that will play itself out on donald trump's terms until voters start to vote. >> chris, what about that? the rising trump tide lifts all
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republican votes. >> well, that was an unusually clever weaving of a talking point by hugh hewitt into his answer there. very clever, especially for a browns fan. >> oh! >> he is right. donald trump -- donald trump is certainly a gift to the attention of that factor for this election. no question about it. he is good for the race. a lot of people won't like that. people believe in what he's saying. he has a big basis of support. to say i somehow doesn't belong is wrong. he's brought attention to the race. people resonate with what he says. it is their right to do that. they make the choices, not the media. and how long he lasts i think is definitely a concern for the gop. they're going to have to figure out what they do when it comes to convention because donald trump will be there. >> gentlemen, we could talk about this all day. but we have other news to get to. the cnn republican debate is
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december 15th. it's at 9:00 p.m. eastern, moderated by our own wolf blitzer. one of those stories we need to get to, president obama expected to speak at the climate summit in paris soon. we'll bring that to you live. first, potential jurors in the trial of an officer charged in freddie gray's death telling a judge they know about gray's arrest and a financial settlement with the family. today a second pool gets set for questioning. the question becomes can an impartial jury be seated? we'll discuss it, ahead. it takes technology, engineering and coordination for pga tour professional rickie fowler to hit the perfect shot. at quicken loans, technology, engineering and coordination come together to deliver a customized mortgage experience.
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day two of jury selection continues in baltimore this morning as the first of six officers heads to trial for the death of freddie gray. a big question facing the court is whether an impartial jury can be selected in baltimore. want to discuss this with danni saval savalas. joining me in studio is reverend jamal bryant. we know reverend bryant you delivered the eulogy at freddie gr gray's funeral. you're close to this story. i have to let you know, the president is expected to speak shortly. we're going to try and have our conversation before that comes from paris. we're hearing that reporters could hear the chanting of protesters outside. we also learned that all of the 75 potential jurors in the pool yesterday said i'm very familiar
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with the freddie gray case, i know about the settlement with the family. the big question is, can they seat an impartial jury here in baltimore? >> well, you have to look at the underlying test. the sixth amendment guarantees a defendant a right to an impartial jury. what exactly does that mean? that means not -- if the test is not whether you can empanel a jury that's never heard anything about this case. that's kind of an unreasonable test. instead, jurors who have heard about the case, if you live in baltimore, it's virtually impossible to not have heard something or been involved in something during all the unrest. if given their knowledge they can put aside what they know and render a verdict based just on the facts, then they can be impartial jurors. >> okay. >> that rule recognizes the fact that it's unreasonable to everybody empanel a jury in a high profile case that's heard nothing at all about the underlying case. >> especially in today's world with cell phones and social
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media, et cetera. to danny's point, we heard 26 of the potential jurors said they have strong feelings about the case. do you feel the case needs to be moved? i know the lawyer had asked for a change of venue, the judge said no, that's not happening. do you think it can happen in baltimore? >> i think it can happen in baltimore. we have every bit of confidence that it needs to stay there. we need to witness it from the beginning to the end. dealing with the paimpartiality that's been part of the weight of being black in america, the presumed of guilt. will the impartiality go to the benefit of the victim? so many times it's always been swayed towards the police. and over and over again we've seen it from cleveland to ferguson to sanford, florida and baltimore we're gasping for breath. >> you are thinking this might
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provide healing for almost like a full circle nature for the trial to stay there in baltimore? >> we are really putting the criminal justice system back on trial to say can african-americans really have a fair trial to find justice on our life as opposed to the other side. every time someone is killed because of aggressive policing, it's found to be justified. >> the officer, this first officer that's on trial right now, porter, is african-american. the judge also happens to be african-american. does that change the dynamic in a case that many perceived as racially motivated? >> in baltimore it's not a black and white issue as it's a black and blue issue. baltimore is a 73% black city. the black mayor, black comptroller, black state's attorney. we're looking for what color
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will justice be? the reality is that the imagery of the metaphor of lady liberty is to be blindfolded. it doesn't matter what color you are, can the truth come out? that's what we're hoping this trial will revul. >> danny, so we know this officer is facing charges of involuntary manslaughter, reckless endangerment, second degree assault. prosecutors facing an uphill battle in this case? >> well, you could say the prosecutors always face an uphill battle because of their burden of proof. they have to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. because all of these defendants are severed, the prosecution is left proving together individual pieces of a larger pie. in other words, they'll have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this officer's actions isolated with one defendant sitting there at the table, that officer's actions ammed to the very high level of proof required to sustain a conviction for involuntary manslaughter.
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and we have a depraved heart murder case coming up as well. that's an even higher burden. in a way, this severance may ultimately be a boone to these defendants. >> all right. reverend bryant, always a pleasure. >> my privilege. >> danny savalas, thank you so much. president obama is expected to speak at the climate summit many paris any minute. we will bring that to you live. stick around. y can't fit this under a tree. how are you gonna hide this? we asked real people what they thought of chevy's holiday deals. that's awesome. i like it. i love it. that's a really good deal. i think it's actually a great deal. i think this feels really good. holiday gift, christmas gift. this would be the best any gift. bar none. can i have the keys? wrap up the deals and wrap up the year in a new chevy. find your holiday bonus tag and get $2,500 total cash allowance on select chevy malibu limited vehicles in stock. can i take it home today?
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we are waiting for president obama to speak live from paris in just a few moments. first, another heart breaker for cleveland sports fans as the browns snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. >> strong tie today, coy. >> he watches us. >> color coordinated. we planned that, everybody. >> yes, we did. >> good morning, alisyn and michaela. that monday night game looked lick a monday night matchup that
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didn't mean much, the 2-8 browns against the 3-7 ravens. all game the rivals went blow for blow. travis kuhns lines up for the 53-yard field goal attempt. blocked by brent irvin, will hill scoops up the pill and then feet don't fail me now. will takes it to the house, somehow, some way, the ravens find a way to take the game, 33-27. it's okay, cleveland fans. it's basketball season now. you still have lebron james. speaking of basketball, there seems to be no stopping the undefeated golden state warriors. they haven't lost in a lifetime, that's if you're an 8-month-old baby. tied at 101, 51 seconds to go, to whom do you give the ball?
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bingo, steph curry. a new nba record, they win 103-107. that win would have to come on christmas day against lebron james and the cleveland cavaliers. guys? >> i still have to get used to having a basketball game on christmas day when i'm trying to do all of that christmas stuff. >> multitasking. >> we can do it, coy, we're devoted. >> i love it. i love it. >> thanks. donald trump getting roasted by late-night comics from his red hat to his hair and his hidden talent? here's what you missed in case you were asleep. >> donald trump had a little bit of an embarrassing revelation. hard to believe. >> oh, really? >> donald trump's popular make america great again hats are actually made, turns out at a california factory that employs
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mexican immigrants. yes, yes. even more embarrassing for trump, his hair is made by syrian refugees. true story. >> last week i was away. i couldn't sit around and watch my favorite tv show. i miss the all of it, trump-ire. it's about a ruthless tycoon that will stop at nothing in his quest for power. honestly, i just watch it for the music. >> we're waiting for president obama to speak live. let's get to it. this is cnn breaking news. >> good morning. welcome to your "new day," tuesday, december 1st, 8:00 in the east. alisyn and mick in new york, we are in paris. there's a lot going on here, especially news of president obama giving a press conference before he leaves the conference here in paris. big headlines for him to discuss, what progress was made
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here at the cop21 vis-a-vis carbon emissions. can they do a deal with carbon emissions that will be legally binding? there's talk about that from the u.n. and differently international partners. what does that mean back home at the united states? and then the larger discussions going on here in paris right now between turkey, russia and the u.s. we know president obama met with turkey's leader and also russia's leader. no word of the three men meeting, though, the obvious topic of discussion is getting along after what happened with that russian jet getting shot down. we're also waiting for word about what, if any, developments come in the coalition efforts toward isis. news coming that russia has put air-to-surface missiles on the border with turkey and syria. that could be dangerous for u.s. aircraft. we're waiting for all of that, doing some of the reporting for us right now is cnn senior white house correspondent jim acosta. he's been with the president at the summit. jim, what are we expecting out of this press conference?
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>> chris, we expect the president to come in, perhaps in just the next few moments and talk about some of the progress that was made at this climate summit. as you know, chris, the president and these other world leaders, some 150 world leaders are trying to produce an agreement over the next couple of weeks that would essentially bind every country on earth to these goals of reducing carbon emissions over the next decades in the hopes of reducing the growth and global temperatures by 2 degrees celsius. scientists say that is critical to avert something of the more catastrophic effects of climate change. but as you know, chris, the specter of isis, of the war on terrorism is hanging over everything at the summit. president obama has to devote much of his energies during his time here in paris, almost playing referee in this dispute that has been simmering between russia and turkey over turkey's shootdown of that russian bomber near the turkish/syria border
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last week. turkey's president erdogan is not apologizing for that incident and russian president vladimir putin refused to meet with erdogan during the summit. president obama met with vladimir putin yesterday. he met with erdogan earlier this morning and it's pretty clear which side of this issue the president comes down on. he is siding with the nato ally turkey saying turkey has a right to defend its territory. it will be interesting to hear what the president has to say in just a few moments. he'll be asked questions, i'm sure, about president putin, president erdogan, how this has complicated this mission to go after isis. after all, chris, unless the president can de-escalate the situation between turkey and syria, unless the president and vladimir putin can come to terms on what to do about syria's leader bashar al assad, it is going to be difficult to accomplish this goal that french president francois hollande has of this grand coalition to go after isis, to retaliate against
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isis for those attacks in paris a couple weeks ago. chris? >> absolutely true. jim acosta, thank you for setting the table for us. one big factor here is what will russia do next? will it move toward or away from the coalition? the most recent proof of intentions is not good. let's bring in cnn's barbara starr live from the pentagon. barbara, what can you tell us about this news that russia moved surface-to-air missiles close to the border with turkey? >> reporter: chris, good morning. these are the russian s-400, a massive russian surface-to-air missile system with a very powerful radar that will give the russians the capability now to basically target and potentially shoot at aircraft flying all the way inside turkey. no one thinks they're targeting u.s. aircraft flying out of turkey. the alleged target would clearly be turkish aircraft. that's the working assumption,
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that's the message that the u.s. believes russia is trying to send to turkey. no indication they're going to shoot down more aircraft. it's a big worry on the ground. the military reality now for u.s. pilots, set aside all the political statements coming from podiums and cameras around the world. the military reality for u.s. pilots flying in this air space now is they must be very aware of these russian capabilities. intentions are one thing but the capabilities means u.s. pilots need to be concerned, need to be aware. there can always be an accidental situation, a missile can lock on to an aircraft nobody wants to see that happen. in just a couple of hours, the u.s. defense secretary, the chairman of the joint chiefs will testify on capitol hill about isis, about syria, expect them to get all these questions, chris. >> okay, barbara starr also
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reporting that russia's president, vladimir putin made the decision to move these missiles right after russia's jet was shot down by turkey. barbara, thank you very much. let's bring in chief international correspondent christiane amanpour. i mean, christiane be what other way can you look at russia's moves? the only reason to have the misses are to shoot things out of the sky. the only things in the sky are coalition planes. >> chris, people were very concerned about this when vladimir putin first announced that he was bulling up a base in latakia. first we heard about the missile systems that were coming in and then personnel and the base and at the u.n. he declared he would startple booing targets in syria as well. they have missiles. he's also playing very hardball with the turkish prime minister, recep tayyip erdogan. erdogan has tried to meet, putin has said no. he's doing muscle flexing for
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sure. in addition, he's banned the whole system of no visas between turkey and russia. he's putting all sorts of spot checks and stopping goods flowing from turkey into russia, produce and other such stuff. he is making his move to try to face down what happened. but it would be hard to imagine deliberate shooting out of the sky of more airplanes. it is also very important to remember that russia is not in a coalition with the united states and its allies. it just isn't. they have different targets. they're not on the same side of this equation. even though they are trying, the u.s., to bring in the political situation around some kind of transition for syria, that will take a long time and it has only been very recently that russia has turned its bombers away from, you know, anti-assad groups such as the free syrian army and more towards isis. that was really only viewed after the isis affiliate shot down the russian plane. they're not really a coalition right now.
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that is complicating the fight against isis in syria, not to mention the fight against bashar al assad. >> and obviously that driving these meetings we heard about here in paris. obviously president obama here to discuss climate change and what can be done. the politics of that tricky enough for him. not only does he have to try and get international cooperation but he has a good fight on his hands at home in america on this issue. we get word that he did meet with turkey's president, russ ' russia's president. his mission so try to conciliate. he is asking both men to focus on a common enemy of isis. we are watching the podium. we expect president obama to take it any moment, give his reckoning of what he was able to do here in paris, vis-a-vis the climate talks in this war
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against isis. jim acosta, how much of an indication do you think he can give on the basis of climate and on the basis of what he was able to do with turkey and russia? >> one thing we are hearing from administration officials, chris, is that they are hopeful that vladimir putin is going to stick to this diplomatic process for political transition in syria. they see that as the linchpin to really ending the civil war in syria, if they can somehow transition to a government that does not involve bashar al assad. putin is not ready to go along with that just yet. if they can have a post-assad regime in syria, the thinking goes inside the administration is that perhaps somewhere down the road, the u.s. and coalition could get behind that government and go after these isis terrorists. that is so far down the road as christiane was indicating. this is a multistep process. the president is having to deal
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with delicate diplomatic problems here in terms of president putten who has to show strength to the public back in moscow. turkey did shoot down one of its aircraft. the remains of the pilot of that aircraft were brought back to russia and given a full military honors. and was welcomed as a hero. so this is difficult for president obama to navigate. at the same time we should mention this climate summit is seen as a legacy defining issue for president obama. inside the administration, they see this as one of the top domestic achievements of his administration. the question is, how far does this climate agreement go? will it be legallien boarding? we heard the president say earlier this year it might be legally binding. once again, i want to thank the people of france and president hollande for their extraordinary hospitality, hosting nearly 200 nations is an enormous task for anybody but to
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do so just two weeks after the terrorist attacks here is a remarkable display of resolve. and that's why the first place i visited when i arrived on sunday nigh was the bataclan. so that i could pay my respects on behalf of the american people who share the french people's resolve. it was a powerful reminder of the awful human toll of those attacks. our hearts continue to go out to the victims' families. but here in paris we also see the resilience of the universal values we share. based on my discussions with president hollande and other leaders, i am confident that we can continue building momentum and adding resources to our effort to degrade and ultimately destroy isil, disrupt plots against america and our allies and to bring about the political
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resolution necessary to resolve the situation in syria and relieve the hardships on the syrian people. now, this has been a quick visit. all visits to paris seem quick. you always want to stay a little bit longer but we have accomplished a lot here. i have high hopes that over the next two weeks we'll accomplish even more. i know some have asked why the world would dedicate some of our focus right now to combatting climate change even as we work to protect our people and go after terrorist networks. the reason is because this one trend, climate change, affects all trends. if we let the world keep warming as fast as it is, and sea levels rising as fast as they are, and weather patterns keep shifting in more unexpected ways, then before long we are going to have to devote more and more and more
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of our economic and military resources not to growing opportunity for our people but to adapting to the various consequences of a changing planet. this is an economic and security imperative that we have to tackle now. and great nations can handle a lot at once. america's already leading on many issues and climate is no different. we've made significant progress at home, increasing production of clean energy, working to reduce emissions while our businesses have kept creating jobs for 68 straight months. we've been able to lower our unemployment rate to 5% in the process. and since we worked with china last year to show that the two largest economies and two largest emitters can cooperate on climate, more than 180 countries have followed our lead in announcing their own targets. the task that remains here in
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paris is to turn these achievements into an enduring framework for progress that gives the world confidence in a low carbon future. as i said yesterday, what we seek is an agreement where progress paves the way for countries to update their emissions targets on a regular basis. each nation has the confidence that other nations are meeting their commitments. we seek an agreement that makes sure developing nations have the resources they need to skip the dirty phase of development if they're willing to do their part and make sure the nation's most vulnerable to climate change have resources to adapt to the impacts we can no longer avoid. we seek an agreement that gives businesses and investors the certainty that the global economy is on a firm path towards a low carbon future. because that will spur the kind of investment that will be vital to combine reduced emissions
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with economic growth. and that's the goal, not just an agreement to roll back the pollution that threatens our planet but an agreement that helps our economies grow and our people thrive without condemning the next generation to a planet that's beyond its capacity to repair. now, all of this will be hard. getting 200 nations to agree on anything is hard. and i'm sure there will be moments over the next two weeks where progress seems stymied and everyone rushes to write that we are doomed. i am convinced that we are going to get big things done here. keep in mind nobody expected that 180 countries would show up in paris with serious climate targets in hand. nobody expected that the price of clean energy would fall as fast as it has or that back in the united states the solar industry would be creating jobs ten times faster than the rest of the economy.
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nobody expected that more than 150 of america's biggest companies would pledge their support to an ambitious paris outcome or that a couple of dozen of the world's wealthiest private citizens would join us here to pledge to invest unprecedented resources to bring clean energy technologies to market faster. what gives me confidence that progress is possible is somebody like bill gates who i was with yesterday, understands that tackling climate change is not just a moral imperative. it's an opportunity. without batting an eye he said we're just going to have to invent new technologies to tackle this challenge. that kind of optimism, that kind of sense that we can do what is necessary, is infectious. you believe somebody like bill
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when he says, we're going to get it done since he's done remarkable things. i believe a successful two weeks here can give the world that same kind optimism that the future is ours to shape. with that, i'm going to take a few questions. we'll start with jerome gartillia of ap. where's jerome? >> thank you, mr. president. >> yes. >> for months now you've been asking mr. putin to play a more constructive role in syria, basically shifting from defending assad to attacking isil. it appears your calls have not been heard. what's your strategy going forward? >> i'm not sure that's true. the fact that the vienna process is moving forward steadily, not conclusively but steadily, i think is an indication that mr. putin recognizes there is not going to be a military
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resolution to the situation in syria. the russians have been there now for several weeks, over a month. and i think fair-minded reporters who have looked at the situation would say that the situation hasn't changed significantly. in the interim, russia's lost a commercial passenger jet. you've seen another jet shot down. there have been losses in terms of russian personnel. i think mr. putin understands th that, with afghanistan fresh in the memory, for him to simply get bogged down in an inconclusive and paralyzing civil conflict is not the outcome that he's looking for.
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now, where we continue to have an ongoing difference is not on the need for a political settlement, it's the issue of whether mr. assad can continue to serve as president while still bringing the civil war to an end. it's been my estimation for five years now that that's not possible. regardless of how you feel about mr. assad and i consider somebody who kills hundreds of thousands of his own people illegitimate, but regardless of the moral equation, as a practical matter, it is impossible for mr. assad to bring that country together. and to bring all the parties into an inclusive government. it is possible, however, to preserve the syrian state to have an inclusive government
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where the interest of the various groups inside of syria are represented. and so as part of the vienna process, you're going to see the opposition groups, the moderate opposition groups, that exist within syria, some of which, frankly, you know, we don't have a lot in common with. but do represent significant factions inside of syria. they'll be coming together in order for them to form at least a negotiating unit or process that can move vienna forward. we're going to just keep on working at this. and my hope and expectation is that that political track will move at the same time as we continue to apply greater and greater pressure on isil. and with the contributions that the french have made, the
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germans have recently announced additional resources to the fig fight. the brits have been steady partners in iraq and i think are now very interested in how they can expand their efforts to help deal with isil inside of syria. with not just the cohesion of the coalition that the united states put together but also the increasing intensity of our actions in the air and progressively on the ground. i think it is possible over the next several months that we both see a shift in calculation in the russians and a recognition that it's time to bring the civil war in syria to a close. it's not going to be easy. too much blood has been shed.
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too much infrastructure has been destroyed. too many people have been displaced for us to anticipate that it will be a smooth transition. and isil will continue to be a deadly organization because of its social media, the resources that it has and the networks of experienced fighters that it possesses. it's going to continue to be a serious threat for some time to come. but i'm confident that we are on the winning side of this and that ultimately russia's going to recognize the threat that isil poses to its country, to its people, is the most significant and that they need to align themselves with us who are fighting isil. justin cink. >> thanks, mr. president. i guess i wanted to follow on that shift in calculation that
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you discussed with -- in terms of president putin. did you receive assurances from either him or president hollande who said earlier this week that president putin had told him he would only target jihadis and isis, that that would be the focus of russia's military campaign going forward? and then separately, i wanted to ask about climate, the outstanding issue seems to be whether republicans who have kind of voiced opposition to your agenda could somehow submarine funding for the green climate fund, a pretty crucial part here. i'm wondering how you prevent that in the upcoming appropriations process and if you're at all concerned about what senator mcconnell said earlier today or yesterday that a future republican could undo what you're trying to accomplish here in paris. >> first of all, on mr. putin, i don't expect that you're going
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to see a 180 turn on their strategy over the next several weeks. they have invested, for years now, in keeping asad in power. their experience there is predicated on propping him up. and so that's going to take some time for them to change how they think about the issue. and so long as they are aligned with the regime, a lot of russian resources are still going to be targeted at opposition groups that ultimately are going to end up being part of an inclusive government, that we support or other members of the coalition support. and are fighting the regime and isil at the same time. so i don't think we should be under any illusions that somehow
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russia starts hitting only isil targets. that's not happening now. it was never happening. it's not going to be happening in the next several weeks. what can happen is if the political process that john kerry has so meticulously stitched together in cooperation with sergey lavrov of russia, if that works in russia, it's possible that given the existing accord that the parties have already agreed to, that we start seeing at least pockets of cease-fires in and around syria. that may mean then that certain opposition groups no longer find themselves subject to either syrian or russian bombing. they are then in a conversation about politics. and slowly, we then are able to get everybody's attention
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diverted to where it needs to be and that is going after isil in a systematic way. with respect to climate and what's taking place here, i don't want to get ahead of ourselves. we still need a paris agreement. my main focus is making sure that the united states is a leader in bringing a successful agreement home here in paris. and there are a number of components to it. i just want to repeat, so that everybody understands what we will consider success several weeks from now. number one, that it is an ambitious target that seeks low carbon, global economy over of course of this century. that means that countries have put forward specific targets and
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although those are self-generating, there is a mechanism in which they are presenting to the world confirmation that they are working on those targets, meeting on those targets. there's a single transparency mechanism that all countries are adhering to. and that those are legally binding, that there's periodic reviews, so that as the science changes and as technology changes, five years from now, ten years from now, 15 years from now, in each successive cycle, countries can update the pledges that they make and that we've got a climate fund that helps developing countries to not only adapt and mitigate but leap frog over dirty power
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generation in favor of clean energy. and if we hit those targets, then we will have been successful, not because, by the way, the pledges alone will meet the necessary targets for us to prevent catastrophic climate change but because we will have built the architecture that's needed. we will have established a global consensus of how we're going to approach the problem and we can successfully turn up the dials as new sources of energy become available, as the unit cost for something like solar or improvements in battery technology make it easier for us to meet even higher targets and
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systematically we can drive down carbon emissions and the pace of climate change over the course of several decades. i want to emphasize this. i know that in some of the reporting, if you add up all the pledges and they were all met right now, we would be at an estimated 2.7 centigrade increase in temperature. that's too high. we wanted to get 2 centigrade or even lower than that. but if we have these periodic reviews built in, what i believe will happen is that by sending that signal to researchers and scientists and investors and entrepreneurs and venture funds, we'll actually start hitting the targets faster than we expected. we can be even more ambitious. and so when you look at the cumulative targets that may
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exist ten years from now, we may well be within the 2% centigrade increase. by the way, that's not just foolish optimism. when we look at the experience of the united states, for example, i came into office, i prioritized clean energy. i said we're going to double our clean energy production through the recovery act. we recognized that making these big investments were also good for the economy and helping us get out of recession and could create jobs, so we made a big investment and it turned out that we met our goals a lot quicker than we expected. if you had asked me when i first came into office my expectations for the price of solar generated power versus traditional coal or other fossil fuel generated
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power, i would say we would make some progress but that solar would still require substantial subsidies in order to be economical. the cost of solar has gone down much faster than any of us would have predicted even five years ago. so the key here is to set up the structure so that we're sending signals all around the world. this is happening. we're not turning back. and the thing about human ingenuity, i was going to say american ingenuity, but there are other smart folks around, too. don't want to be too parochial about this. the thing about human ingenuity is, it responds when it gets a strong signal of what needs to be done.
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the old expression that necessity is the mother of invention. this is necessary. and us getting a strong, high ambition agreement in place, even if it doesn't meet all the goals we ultimately need to meet, sends a signal that it's necessary. and that will spur on the innovation that's going to ultimately meet our goals. nan nancy bening. >> are you confident that you can hold the u.s. to its commitments under existing treaties with no new vote needed? and separately on planned parenthood, i wondered if you could share your thoughts on that shooting and any thoughts in the context of the sharp political rhetoric in the country at this time. >> i apologize that i didn't
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address that. fortunately nancy was beating cleanup after you. on the issue of the climate fund, we already engage in assistance to countries for adaptation, mitigation, sharing technology that can help them meet their energy needs in a clean way and so this is not just one slug of funding that happens in one year. this is multiyear commitments that, in many cases, already embedded in a whole range of programs that we have around the world. and my expectation is that we will absolutely be able to meet our commitments. this is part of american leadership by the way. and this is part of the debate that we have to have in the
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united states more frequently. for some reason, too often in washington, american leadership is defined by whether or not we're sending troops somewhere. and that's the sole definition of leadership. and part of what i've been trying to describe during the course of my presidency is that where we make the most impact and where, by the way, we strengthen our relationships and influence the most is when we are helping to organize the world around a particular problem. now, because we're the largest country, because we have the most powerful military, we should welcome the fact that we're going to do more and often times we're going to do it first.
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so during the ebola response, other countries could not respond until we had set up the infrastructure to allow other countries to respond. and until we had made the call and showed that we were going to make that investment. the same was true with respect to making sure that iran didn't get a nuclear weapon. we had to lead the way but ultimately because we reached out and brought our allies and partners together, we were able to achieve goals that we could not have achieved by ourselves. the same is true with climate. you know, when i made the announcement, in beijing with president xi, i was able to do so in part because we had led domestical domestically. i could put my money where my mouth was and say, here are the tough political decisions we're
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making, now what are you going to do? once we were able to get china involved, that gave confidence to other countries that we're in a position to make a difference as well and that they needed to be involved in the process as well. so whether it's organizing the coalition that's fighting isil or dealing with climate change, our role is central but on large international issues like this, it's not going to be sufficient. at least not if we want it to take, sustain itself. we have to have partners. and that's the kind leadership that we should aspire to. with respect to planned parenthood, obviously, my heart goes out to the families of those impacted.
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i mean, nancy, i say this every time we've got one of these mass shootings. this just doesn't happen in other countries. you know, we are right ly determined to prevent terrorist attacks wherever they occur, whether in the united states or with friends and allies like france. and we devote enormous resources and properly so, to rooting out networks and debilitating organizations like isil and maintaining the intelligence and improving the information sharing that can identify those who would try to kill innocent people.
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and yet in the united states we have the power to do more to prevent what is just a regular process of gun homicides. that is unequalled by multiples of five, six, ten. and i think the american people understand that. so my hope is, is that once again this spurs a conversation and action. i will continue to present those things that i can do administratively but at the end of the day, congress, states, local governments, are going to have to act in order to make sure that we're preventing people who are deranged or have
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violent tendencies from getting weapons that can magnify the damage that they do. and with respect to planned parenthood, i think it's clear, i've said it before, they provide health services to women all across the country. have for generations. in many cases it's the only organization that provides health services to impoverished women. i think it's fair to have a legitimate, honest debate about abortion. i don't think that's something that is beyond the pale of our political discussion. that's a serious, legitimate issue. how we talk about it, making sure that we're talking about it factually, accurately and not demonizing organizes like planned parenthood i think is important.
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jeb mason. >> thank you, mr. president. do you believe that turkey is doing enough to strengthen its northwest border with syria? how is it that a nato country with as large a military as turkey has has not sealed this bord border? and is that something you mentioned today with president erdogan? can leaders gathered here believe that the united states will keep its commitments even after you've left office if a republican succeeds you in the white house? >> you know, just with respect to my successor, let me first of all say i'm anticipating a democrat succeeding me. i'm confident in the wisdom of the american people on that front.
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but even if somebody from a different party succeeded me, one of the things you find is when you're in this job, you think about it differently than if you're just running for the job. and what you realize is what i mentioned earlier, that american leadership involves not just playing to american constituency back home but you now are in fact at the center of what happens around the world. and that your credibility and america's ability to influence events depends on taking seriously what other countries care about. now, the fact of the matter is, there's a reason why you have the largest gathering of world
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leaders probably in human history here in paris. everybody else is taking climate change really seriously. they think it's a really big problem. it spans political parties. you travel around europe and you talk to leaders of governments and the opposition and they are arguing about a whole bunch of things, one thing they're not arguing about is whether the science of climate change is real and whether or not we have to do something about it. so whoever is the next president of the united states, if they come in and they suggest somehow that that global consensus, not just 99.5% of scientists and experts, but 99% of world leaders think this is really
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importa important, i think the president of the united states is going to need to think this is really important. and that's why it's important for us to not project what's being said on a campaign trail but to do what's right and make the case. and i would note that the american people i think in a most recent survey, two-thirds of them said america should be a cigsignatory to any agreement t emerges that is addressing climate change in a serious way. the good news is the politics inside the united states is changing as well. it sims may be hard for republicans to support something that i'm doing but, you know, that's more a matter of the games washington plays. and that's why i think people should be confident that we'll
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meet our commitments on this. with respect to turkey, i have had repeated conversations with president erdogan about the need to close the border between turkey and syria. we've seen serious progress on that front but there's still some gaps, in particular, there's about 98 kilometers that are still used as a transit point for foreign fighters, isil shipping out fuel for sale that helps finance their terrorist activities. and so we have been having our militaries work together to determine how a combination of air and turkish ground forces on the turkish side of the border can do a much better job of sealing the border than currently is. i think president erdogan recognizes that. i'm also encouraged by the fact
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that president erdogan and the eu had a series of meetings around -- or turkey and the eu had a series of meetings around the issue of the turkish/greek border. we have to remind ourselves, turkey has taken on an enormous humanitarian effort. there are millions of syrians who are displaced and living inside of turkey, not just refugee camps but they are now moving into major cities throughout turkey. that puts enormous strains on their infrastructure, on their housing, on employment. and turkey has continued to keep those borders open for people in real need. so i'm proud that the united states is the single largest contributor of humanitarian aid
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for syrian refugees. i'm glad that the eu is looking to do more to help turkey manage those refugee flows. but i also think the eu rightly wants to see the cupid of orderly process along the turkish greek border that's necessary for europe to be able to regulate the amount of refugees it's absorbing and to save of lives of refugees who are often times taking enormous risks because they're being ferried back and forth by human traffickers who are now operating in the same way you see drug traffickers operating under, at enormous profit and without regard for human life.
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[ inaudible question ] >> we talked about it today. i guess what i'm saying, jeff, this has been an ongoing conversation. we recognized this is a central part of our anti-isil strategy. we've got to choke them off. we have to choke off how they make money. we have to choke off their ability to bring in new fighters, because, you know, we've taken tens of thousands of their fighters off the battlefield but if new ones are still coming in, then they continue to maintain a strangle hold over certain population centers in syria. we have to cut off new fighters. that's also part of the great danger for europe and ultimately the united statess awell, countries as far flung as australia or singapore. if you have foreign fighters coming in that are getting not
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only ideologically hardened but battle hardened and they're returning to their home countries, they're likely candidates for engaging in the kind of terrorist attacks we saw here in paris. this has been an ongoing concern and we're going to continue to push hard among all our allies to cut off the financing, cut off the foreign fighters, improve our intelligence gathering which has allowed us to accelerate the strikes we're taking against isil. a lot of the discussion over the last couple of weeks was the pace of air strikes. the pace of air strikes is not constrained by the a planes or millss that we have. the pace has been dictated by how many effective targets do we have? and our intelligence continues
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to improve. and the better we get at that, the better we're going to be at going after them. scott horsham. >> thank you, mr. president. in terms of sending marked signal you talked about today and this week, do you see anything back home at putting an explicit price toward carbon. >> i have long believed the most elegant way to drive innovation and reduce carbon emissions is to put a price on it. this is a classic market failure. if you open up an econ 101 textbook, it will say the markets are very good about determining prices and
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allocating capital towards its most productive use except there are certain things the market doesn't count, it doesn't price, at least not on its own. clean air is an example. clean water or the converse, dirty water, dirty air. in this case, the carbons that are being sent up, originally we didn't have the science to fully understand. we do now. if that's the case, if you put a price on it, then the entire market would respond. and the best investments and the smartest technologies would begin scrubbing effectively our entire economy. but it's difficult. and so i think that as the
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science around climate change is more accepted, as people start realizing that even today you can put a price on the damage that climate change is doing. you go down to miami and when it's flooding at high tide on a sunny day, the fish are swimming through the middle of the streets, there's a cost to that. insurance companies are beginning to realize that. in terms of how they price risk. and the more the market starts putting a price on it on its own because of risk, it may be the politics around setting up a cap and trade system, for example, shifts as well. obviously i'm not under any illusion that this congress will impose something like that. but it is worth remembering that
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it was conservatives and republicans and center right think tanks that originally figured out this was a smarter way to deal with pollution than a command and control system. and it was folks like george h.w. bush and his epa that effectively marshaled this approach to deal with acid rain. we ended up solving it a lot faster, a lot of cheaper than anybody anticipated. more than anything, that's the main message i want to send here, is climate change is a massive problem. it is a generational problem. it's a problem that by definition is just about the
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hardest thing for any political system to absorb, because the effects are gradual, they're diffuse, people don't feel it immediately, so there's not a lot of stwiconstituency pressur politicians to do something about it right away. it kind of creeps up on you. you have the problems of the commons. you have to get everybody doing it. just one nation is helping but the other nations aren't doing it, then it doesn't do any good. you have this huge coordination problem and the danger of free riders. on all these dimensions, it's hard to come up with a tougher problem than climate change or a more consequential problem. and yet despite all that, the main message i've got is, i actually think we're going to solve this thing. if you had said to people as recently as two years ago that
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we'd have 180 countries showing up in paris with pretty ambitious targets for carbon reduction, most people would have said you're crazy, that's a pipe dream. yet here we are. that's already happened. before the agreement is signed, that's already happened. as i said earlier, if you had told folks what the cost of generating solar energy would be today, relative to what it was five years ago, people would have said, not a chance. and with relatively modest inputs that's already happening. imagine if we're starting to put more r & d dollars into it, which is why the mission innovation announcement was so significant. the biggest countries, the most prosperous countries doubling their r & d but then you've also got bill gates and other
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extraordinarily wealthy individuals saying we're going to put our money into this. i'm optimistic. i think we're going to solve it. i think the issue is just going to be the pace and how much damage is done before we are able to fully apply the brakes. and in some ways it's akin to the problem of terrorism. and isil. in the immediate aftermath of a terrible attack like happened here in paris, sometimes it's natural for people to despair. but look at paris. you can't tear down paris because of the demented actions of a handful of individuals. the beauty, the joy, the life,
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the culture, the people, the diversity. that's going to win out every time. we have to be steady in applying pressure to the problem. we have to keep on going at it. we have to see what works when something doesn't work. we have to change our approach. but most of all, we have to push away fear and have confidence that human innovation, our values, our judgment, our solidarity, it will win out. and i guess i've been at this long enough where i have some cause for confidence. we went, what, a month, month and a half where people were pretty sure ebola was going to kill us all.
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nobody asks me about it anymore. %-pt africa, wee set up an entire global health security agenda, part of american leadership, to deal not only with ebola but deal with the future issues of pandemics. it's not easy. it takes time and when you're in the midst of it, it's frightening but it's solvable. all right? with that i'm going to go home. viva la france. thank you very much. >> all right. president obama ending his press conference by saying viva la france. let's bring in cnn's chief international correspondent christiane amanpour and cnn senior white house correspondent jim acosta. wow, jim, there had been speculation this might be limited in scope. the conference anything but that. he took on climate change, both
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here, the prerogatives this summit may lead to as well as the politics back home. dismissioning out of hand any controversy about whether or not there's a warming crisis. he also spoke about terror. he spoke about domestic terrorism. he spoke about the colorado shooting in the context of terror and many other topics. what's your takeaway? >> well, you know, the president sound low energy during this press conference, chris, but he was confident. you heard there at the very end when he was talking about the ebola crisis that these large global problems are solvable. i think you can take that message from the president and apply it to his thinking on isis, to his thinking on climate change. he said i think we're going to solve this thing about climate change, talking with the work here at this climate summit here in paris. but on isis, chris, he faces a difficult challenge. the president was pretty frank about that. he noted that while he thinks vladimir putin may be shifting his calculation as he put it, on
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whether or not bashar al assad needs to hold on in syria, he did say that he doesn't think putin is really going to change his strategy, not to a 180 turn in strategy when it comes to two russia is targeting in syria. the president continues to believe that russia will continue to bombard opposition forces to bashar al assad and that is simply going to make things more difficult for president obama. he has a tough tassing on his hand when it comes to dealing with isis. you heard the president sounding a bit more confident about climb change, frankly, than he did about isis, chris. >> jim acosta, thank you very much. have a safe trip home. christiane amanpour, quick take? >> well, quickly, he frahmed both in terms of american leadership. i think he was confident that the inevitable pace of the vienna political process is moving forward. to build on what jim just said,
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he doesn't expect putin to do a 180, as he said, president obama, on the support for assad but he did say i expects in the next several months to see a shift and greater movement towards a political revolution and towards ending the war. he headed both ways a little there. clearly, as jim said, still finding russia and russia's single-minded target of propping up assad to be incredibly complex. did say this was going to take a long time. he talked about a lot of conversations that he had with the turkish prime minister on closing that last 98 kilometer piece of border. on climate change, he said the main issue, he said it quoucoul done. but what about the pace? and that 2% target, 2 degree target will not be met under the current sums but he put a lot of faith into added new technology and reviews that are built in
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here that could make those targets even more ambitious and reachable relatively soon. chris? >> christiane amanpour, thank you for the analysis. and for all the help you've given us the last couple days. we'll take a quick break. when when come back, coverage will continue with "newsroom." stay with cnn.
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while they have come together to discuss global climate change, president obama has spent much of this past hour addressing the other crises that demand the world's attention, the rise of isis, russia's military buildup in the region and its defiant support of the assad regime in syria.


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