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>> after that donald trump is like, i'm banning all bald eagles from america. >> reporter: jean moos, cnn, new york. thank you for being here with me today. i'm pamela brown. "at this hour with berman and boulduan" starts now. >> move over, donald trump, another one threatening to leave the party. a warning to americans as several terror suspects linked to the paris attacks are missing, right now on the run. the possible threat now to the u.s. and underwater seven dive teams are searching the laction in san bernardino. did the couple hide something there? hello, everyone, i'm kate
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bolduan. john berman has the morning off. here we go. just four days before cnn's big republican debate. 50 days until the nation's first votes. another republican threatening to defect and leave his party. we're not talking about donald trump this time. we're talking about ben carson. carson is furious over a private meeting this week by gop leaders where they talked about the possibility of a brokered convention as carson is falling further in the polls. in new hampshire he's now polling at 6%. that's down seven points from mid-november. that's according to the polling at wbur. donald trump is still holding onto the top spot with 27%. let's bring in nia-malika henderson for more on all of this. what a statement coming from ben carson's campaign this morning. what more are you hearing about this statement and threat from carson. >> we just got this statement in our inboxes about two hours ago in. this comes after all those reports that the rnc and the
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establishment for republicans are thinking about what it would look like if there was a brokered convention, if donald trump or ben carson or any of these folks in the lead at this point were to pull this thing off and actually have more delegates or a tie going into the convention. you have ben carson who is in some ways in the middle of a freefall. he's lost half of his support in some of the national polls and declining in iowa as well. here he is essentially lining himself widonald trump. aligning himself with donald trump who, of course, is also threatened to bolt the republican party if they don't treat him fairly. carson saying basically he is running because he wants to serve the people, not the powerful if the powerful made this move, he might join trump and bolt the party. >> here's the key line for all of our viewers, nia, ben carson says this -- the campaign says
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this, if this was the beginning, this meeting, of a plan to subvert the will of the voters and replace it with the will of the political elite, i assure you donald trump will not be the only one leaving the party. he talks about they're trying to destroy the party. i will not sit by and watch a theft. later in the statement -- i mean, this is pretty strong stuff. i think there are also important can text you can offer here right now, nia. you have new reporting, carson campaign in crisis and the finger-pointing beginning there. what's going on? >> that's right. he's had a stretch of pretty bad weeks. last week he gave that speech before the republican jewish coalition. now his aid, armstrong williams, who of course has been on our air a lot, is really pointing fingers at the campaign saying they don't often prepare ben carson enough when he has to give big speeches like this. and the campaign shoots back basically saying, yes, that's true but armstrong williams
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hasn't been very helpful to the campaign either he at times has criticized ben carson publicly, even on our air. there is a lot of back and forth between these two separate spheres of the campaign. one is more of the informal campaign. armstrong williams does not have a formal role in the campaign, but he's very much like the carson whisperer. he's very close to ben carson. he talks to him several times a day there is this con fliktd between this campaign who has responsibilities and arm strom stro -- armstrong williams, who has more informal. they say it's a work in progress. they feel like they're all on the same team and focusing on iowa, wanting to have at least a top three finish out of that important caucus come february. >> even before that, getting them all on the same page and the same script ahead of the cnn debate. a very important one on foreign
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policy and national security which was a big part of that conversation of a weakness of ben carson. that will be interesting. nia, great to see you. thank you. ben carson's new threat likely to start a whole lot of hand-wringing among republican officials. joining me is democratic strategist jim as well as former communications director at the rnc, at the republican national committee. doug, first to you, what is going on here. give me the inside scoop of what you think was going on in that meeting and also what do you think of this threat from ben carson that he could defect? does that make a brokered convention more or less likely? >> one, i don't think there's any realistic chance in december there's going to be in july a brokered convention. it's something that gets talked about as a political fantasy and a lot of intrigue. the reality is, the winner of the iowa caucus, win big on
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super tuesday is the candidate who will ultimately be your nominee. think a brokered convention is not very likely. if you're ben carson, you've had a string of weeks where you've not been able to make any real news, you've fallen in the polls. when you've been out there speaking, you've really shown a lack of preparation, not only for the event but the presidency. not being able to pronounce hamas if you're talking to the republican jewish coalition. apparently he needs to make news and this is how they're doing so. >> when those meetings happened and there was a conversation about needing to put some plans in place for all contingencies for what would happen if a broker the convention does happen, does ben carson have a point? he says, this could be the beginnings of a plan to subvert the will of the voters. >> listen f you're a republican national committee person or a part of the republican establishment, what's going on in this primary campaign has to
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scare the bejeezus out of you. >> a technical term. >> exactly you could lose a donald trump, will kill you in the senate, hurt you in the house and you can't have it. if you end up having a convention that's a brokered convention, it would be an unmitigated disaster because you would spend a week of national television watching them fight themselves in this huge battle on national television. i'm curious to see how republicans get themselves out of this. it's going to be a fun winter and spring. >> it's already been a fun summer and fall. we'll definitely see. doug, let me get your take on this one. i'm calling it today a brewing food fight between donald trump and ted cruz. it seemed to have started when "the new york times" seemed to leak audio of ben carson. they say this about ben carson and donald trump at a private funders. listen and then we'll talk about
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it afterwards. >> both of them i like and respect both donald and ben. i do not believe either one of them is going to be our nominee. their campaigns have a natural arc. who am i comfortable having their finger on the button? people run us as they are. i believe gravity will bring both of those campaigns down. >> so ted cruz saying behind closed doors he believes he has -- in a nutshell he thinks he has better judgment than other candidates. should anyone be surprised he said that, though? >> i don't think so. if you look at what he said, he wasn't making specific criticism of this policy or that policy. obviously it's hard to do with trump because he doesn't make many specific policies but making political predictions and analysis. i think a lot of people people agree likely that's what's going to happen with trump. that's what's already happened with carson. that's the challenge with all these candidates, timing that arc, if it happens. donald trump has had an amazing ability to defy the laws of
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political gravity thus far. >> let me ask you this one, for our viewers, trump has tweeted back basically saying, come on, because i basically can't wait to counter-punch you, cruz, if you come at me. he waits to be counter-punched and then hits oh so hard back. i want to ask you ahead of the cnn debate. there's a new cbs poll which shows most americans ban muslims coming into the country. a majority of republicans support a temporary ban. 54%. if that is the case, how do you think all the candidates not named trump who have spoken out against that proposal, how do they handle that issue if it comes up in the debate? >> this is one of the great es challenges because donald trump is tapping into the late enlt fear, the things he talks about in a beer in the corner, they don't say out loud, he's saying them out loud and giving people a voice to get those fears out on the table. he's pulling the republican party further and further to the
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right and not just to the right in a constructive conservative way my friend doug here likes to espouse but into the dark, fearful right where we talk about things we don't to want talk about in public. i think the danger is they have to find some way -- other candidates have to find a way to address what trump is stirring up without losing their credibility in the hands of washington, hollywood, main street america, which doesn't buy a lot of what trump is selling. >> the frustration at the establishment. that is definitely where that support is amongst the trump supporters. and the base. that's something they need to respond to. thanks, guys. happy friday. >> great to see you. as we've been discussing, all republican candidates are set to face off once again. the last chance this year to go head to head on the debate stage. the last presidential debate of 2015, next tuesday, december 15th, right here on cnn. ahead for us, we have breaking news coming in.
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we are following breaking news out of afghanistan. the taliban claimed responsibility for what they are calling a suicide stack in kabul. this is some of the first video we're just getting from the scene. a source tells us it was a car bomb that hit the spanish embassy. they say most of the embassy staff are in a safe place but right now officials are trying to account for all personnel. we'll track that throughout the hour. let's move to geneva
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switzerland where an intercept made by u.s. intelligence has started a citywide terror alert as the hunt continues for the suspects in the paris terror tax. a source tells cnn communications were picked up between extremists linked to isis who were talking about attacks on geneva, chicago and toronto. a manhunt is under way for six suspects. u.s. warns americans in switzerland to be extra vigilant. right now i want to bring in cnn national security analyst julia, a former top official at the department of homeland security. thank you for coming in. the intercepts we're talking about, they discussed the idea of attacking geneva, toronto and chicago why those three cities, do you think? >> i think there would be no consistency between the three cities unless they have people in those cities waiting for some sort of notification or some trigger to move forward. i suspect based on your --
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everyone's excellent reporting at cnn that the intelligence about geneva was stronger, more specific than it was about the other cities because you're simply not hearing about that kind of reaction from toronto or chicago at this stage. >> absolutely. in the aftermath of the paris attacks, the focus of the investigation for suspects or anyone linked to these attacks has really been in france as well as in belgium. switzerland now. is switzerland also a big concern for terrorist activity? where is the connection here? >> switzerland has a lot of international targets. in geneva, for example, you have u.n. facilities, actually places people don't think about, the international olympic committee is in switzerland. these sort of multinational organizations that represent, at least to isis the enemy overall. to be able to target one of them would be a win in their mind.
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switzerland, of course, we've been talking about this the last couple of weeks, the geography of europe being such that borders are just very porous and the capability of getting to a place like switzerland which has effort that is clearly aligned with u.s. and enter pointerpol, overall intelligence agency, views itself as a target and is looking out for these guys. >> this seems to be the example of what is supposed to happen to share the intelligence to stop these terror attacks before they happen. thank you very much. >> thank you. ahead for us, he bought the rifles used to unleash the massacre in california. his mother, though, says he's a good person. new details on the friend of a terrorist as investigators seven the lake near the attack site for key evidence. plus, more on our news we just got in. ben carson threatening to leave the republican party over a secret meeting by gop leaders.
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investigates this morning are back in the water, searching for new clues in the san bernardino massacre. the fbi is now diving into a small lake a few miles from the inland regional center, the site of the attack. officials tell cnn the visitors may have visited the lake right before carrying out their deadly plot. one of the items police are hoping to find, a hard drive that had been removed from the couples computer. new details on the long-time friend and neighbor of sayed fariq, enrique marquez. let's get to cnn's ana cabrera
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on the ground there in san bernardino. what is going on at that lake? what are you seeing there? what are you hearing from investigators? >> well, i'll let you take a look over my shoulder here. you can see fbi agents have arrived on scene. it's much earlier on the west coast. they just arrived within the hour and are preparing to go in the water. we know several divers were in yesterday for a few hours, looking for evidence, we're told, that could be connected to this couple who were involved in the san bernardino attacks. now, investigators say they're following a couple of leads they received that put the shooters in this park near the lake on the day of the shooting. they aren't saying what specific evidence they're hoping to find, only they'll take anything they believe may be connected to the investigation. as you pointed out, that hard drive from the couple's computer. presumably that's something nair looking for. another new development, we found out farook could have ties
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to the terror cell busted in california here in 2012. a law enforcement official telling cnn that farook was in the same social circle as this recruiter of that terror cell. that terror cell was arrested and they have been convicted of trying to go overseas to afghanistan to blow up a u.s. military base and work with taliban or al qaeda fighters in afghanistan. now, 2012 is the same year farook's friend, enrique marquez, tells investigators he and farook were planning a terror plot here in the u.s. he is the friend who purchased two of the ar-15 rifles used in the terror attack here in san bernardino. he is apparently cooperating with investigators, we're told. he's not been charged with any crimes just yet. kate? >> ana, thank you so much. for the latest, we'll keep a close eye on that lake. investigators are preparing to head back into the water. we appreciate it. in light of what you're hearing from ana and in light of what more we're learning about
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the san bernardino terrorists, specifically they're online communications about jihad, the focus turns once again how to combat extremist propaganda on the internet ambassador alberto fernandez ran the center for strategic counterterrorism communications. this is the office created by the obama administration to counter terror online. ambassador, thank you for your time. as we focus once again on this online propaganda, it reminded me of sdw you said in a recent interview. you said since leaving your post with the administration this, that there is a fantasy in washington that somehow if you put magical or pixie dust on a problem, it will go away. why is the obama administration failing at this point winning the war against groups like isis, from your perspective?
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>> i don't think you can different shat the challenges of the obama administration from its challenges in fighting isis in other fields. it's all connected. one of the reasons isis is so powerful is that you have a powerful, seductive message, which is connected to a reality or perception of reality on the ground. so, you can't divorce counterpropaganda or counternarrative from the reeld world. isis boasts its threats and all of that are nested in a reality or at least a perception of reality in the middle east. >> but this is why this office was created, to counter that perception of reality, to counter that draw online. are you saying you didn't get the support you needed to effectively take it on? >> the office was a small office. it was established before the rise of isis. it was to focus on al qaeda. no, it never had the resources it needed.
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it was basically created at a time when the administration was thinking it was its commission accomplish moment. it was the period between the death of bin laden and the fall of mosul when the administration thought the threat was somewhat dissipa dissipating. this was the junior varsity team face. yes, the resources were never there. indeed, the u.s. -- not just the u.s., everyone together who's fighting this counter-isis propaganda battle is still outnumbered today by isis in this very narrow space where people are radicalized. >> absolutely. we're talking about, what, tens of thousands of twitter accounts and 10 to 15 people in that office, even if it's grown, that's still not enough. that shows the challenge that you faced in your post. and you did go head-to-head, put out a video, mocking isis. we're showing to our viewers. it was very graphic. it went viral. also faced some criticism inside
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and outside the administration for going maybe too far with its graphic imagery. if that didn't work, ambassador, what have you learned since? what is going to work. what is going to defeat the isis presence online because it is so important? >> there are certain things. first of all, there's no substitute for a military victory. there's no substitute for puncturing the balloon isis presented of this ever victorious, all-powerful entity that seeks to rule the world. that's number one. number two, as i said, we're still outnumbered on social media. >> how many people do you think the government could -- would need to take them on? >> you mean on social media? >> yeah. >> you have to start somewhere. if you're talking about 40,000 twitter handles, 3,000 or 4,000. most active ones, at the least you need to match that, let alone the question of messaging.
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if you look at all other governments and entities who have tried to do this, they also have failed. it's -- failure is shared among a wide range of organizations. >> you can talk about military strategy and that's obviously a huge focus in taking on -- taking on isis. i would argue this is equally an important front to change the hearts and minds so it would be -- ambassador, thanks for your time. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> of course. coming up for us, we'll have more on our breaking news. the republican national committee responding for the first time really live since ben carson joins donald trump in threatening to leave the republican party. carson upset over a private, secret meeting the rnc hosted, where talk of a brokered convention came up. don't want to miss this.
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more on our breaking news. ben carson now threatening to leave the republican party, joining donald trump, leaving the door open to a third party run. why? well, carson is furious over a private meeting of republican leaders that was hosted by the chairman of the republican national committee. at this dinner, at this meeting, they discussed the possibility of a brokered convention. ben carson released a scathing statement. joining me to discuss to respond for the first time, john spicer, communications director for the republican national committee. thank you so much for coming on. i really appreciate it.
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this statement from ben carson is rough. what do you say to ben carson? >> well, i say to dr. carson, don't worry. your prayers have been answered. there was a dinner where the subject was how the delegation process worked. hybrid state versus a proportional state. at the end of the dinner, there were a lot of questions asked. it was very similar to a press briefing we held for 150 members of the press a couple weeks ago where a similar thing happened. we walked through the delegate selection process. what states were going on what days, how each state handled their delegate process and we took a series of questions. it's nothing more than that. >> why would it come up in the first place? because every republican we talk to, as you were saying, we're in december. that's in july why are we even talking about the possibility of a brokered convention before anyone has cast any votes. why did it come up? >> it's the same reason people
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excuse whether or not there's going to be a tie in the electoral election. i don't think you can walk down the street right now without people exhibiting a high amount of interest and what's happening on the republican side for our nomination. we have a ton of interest in it. that's great. what happens if this happens? every show discusses -- what happens if someone wins iowa and they don't win new hampshire? this is what's great about what's happening in our party right now. there's a tremendous amount of excitement. so people are going to ask questions about all fas sets of what's happening. i think that's great but i don't think that's anything abnormal. people are always going to want to have an interest in what's happening with the process itself. there's been a lot of rules changes about what states go when. what's the difference between a hybrid state. what's the difference between at large delegates. those are all things people are really interested in right now. >>. >> it definitely touched a nerve with this campaign and others,
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that's for sure. in this statement, ben carson asked -- the carson campaign asks this, if this was the beginning of a plan to subvert the will of voters and replace it with the will of the political elite, i assure you donald trump will not be the only one leaving the party. when you look at, according to t"the washington post," some at the party, republican party officials, no surprise, but an aadviser to marco rubio and someone close with jeb bush. why weren't the campaigns invited? >> it was a dinner, kate. they probably have a dinner every night, lunch, breakfast, coffee in between. we meet with campaigns. we do meet with the campaigns, as a matter of fact. so the idea -- to be honest with you, this is quite silly. >> it's much ado about nothing, is what you think? >> hold on. it really is. honestly, we have a dinner a night with people who have expressed an interest. three weeks ago we had 150
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members of the press here where we walked through the same thing. we meet with people all day long who have an interest in this process, pundits, members of the media, donors, campaigns, other interested people, academics. this is what happens around an election season. there's a tremendous amount of interest in what's happening, how the process works. and our job is to explain it to people and answer their questions. that's actually what the process is supposed to be. people have questions about the process. we answer. here is the bottom line in all of this. republican voters will choose the delegates that will go to the convention in cleveland next july. those people will decide the nominee. that's it. bottom line, plain and simple. if you want to know who's going to elect the next president of the united states, it's going to be the delegates republican voters elect, plain and simple. >> are they going to be hosting any more of these dinners after this? >> yes. if people have an interest in this, we will meet with them.
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again, we sat down with -- >> i'm not the one making much ado about nothing here. >> you are. >> you saw the statement from ben carson. they're furious. they say if what was reported and described in the washington post is true, he's threatening to leave the party. >> and i feel very confident he will stay in the republican party as will donald trump, as will everyone else. we're going to have a great nominating process. everyone will stay in. we'll select the best nominee for this party and take back the white house. it will all work out. i promise. >> rather than saying everyone needs to take their calming pills, whatever you can say, xanax, whatever you want, i have a question for you, since everyone seems to be interested in what happened in this dinner, this one in particular, and since so many people are talking about this dinner of what happened, how much was donald trump part of the conversation? >> i don't think very much because that wasn't the point.
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the point of the dinner was to talk about the process, explain the differences and nuances that exist in the new rules going forward. that was it. plain and simple. and so, you know, and every dinner and every meeting there's going to be people who favor one candidate, who have questionings about another. that's the nature of conversation, frankly, especially in politics. i guarantee you when people go home for the holidays that there's going to be similar discussions around dinner tables where people say, what's the difference between this and this? that's frankly something we welcome at the party because it exhibits how much interest there is right now, the intensity and excitement on the republican side that's, frankly, lacking on the democratic side. >> absolutely there is definitely interest on the republican side. i can promise you, sean, i will clear my schedule if an invitation to one of these dinners pops up for me. i appreciate it. and talking about -- >> i would love to have dinner with you and john. >> thank you. >> we'll be out in vegas for the debate on tuesday night.
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i'd love to have, you know, anyone from cnn and other media organizations. we can put together a dinner there. we. people to understand how this process is going to play out. we're excited so many people are interested in it. if people want to have dinner, lunch. i love eating. >> that's my biggest takeaway of this conversation sean spicer loves food. thank you for the plug for the debate. that is tuesday right here on cnn, the last debate, gop debate of the year. i'll see you there, sean. thank you. >> you bet. thank you, kate. >> sean spicer from the rnc for us. tough job he has sometimes, having to answer my questions. let's take a turn, though. we were talking about donald trump. he's now making another big promise to his supporters he says he will mandate the death penalty for anyone, if he becomes president, he will mandate the death penalty for anyone who kills a police officer. listen to this. >> one of the first things i do in terms of executive order if i win will be to sign a strong,
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strong statement that will go out to the country, out to the world that anybody killing a policeman, policewoman, police officer, anyone killing a police officer, death penalty. it's going to happen. >> donald trump was speaking to a new hampshire crowd after the police benevolent association gave him their endorsement, but such an action, is it legal? let's bring in mark o'mara to talk about this. mark, he says anyone who kills a police officer, they will have the death penalty -- they will face the death penalty. it will happen. >> if he wants to be tough on cop killers, that's great. everyone would agree, we need to be, particularly what's going on over the past five or six years. but if he wants to say, if you kill a cop, you will get the death penalty, that's just not going to happen. it can't happen because our constitutional process and procedure in place tells us we have to look at all factors
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considering the death penalty -- the ultimate penalty should be imposed. it requires we weigh all the factors. one of those factors is the victim law enforcement emergency and that's one of the considerations. and then look at everything else. mental health considerations as a mitigation, other facts. but to come in and say without any other consideration if a cop is a victim of a killing, then you'll get death penalty. the supreme court will throw it out. every individual state supreme court will throw it out. it sounds great as a sound bite but if what mr. trump is trying to say he'll pass an executive order that says death of cop equals death penalty, it simply can't happen. >> he's speaking to a crowd -- don't know the exact makeup of the crowd. but it's a crowd of supporters. as you said, he's speaking -- this is clearly something people are talking about. >> absolutely. if he's trying to gain favor
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with those law and order people -- >> just to get their endorsement. >> it's great. he could have said in a much more nuanced way that would have made sense. if you wanted to say in my world f you kill a cop, you'll be death penalty eligible. the department of justice is going to look into every cop killing and we're going to look at it aggressively. you kill a cop in my country when i'm president, here's what i'm going to try make happen to you. that's okay. just don't give it some ee dikt that cannot be sustained from a constitutional basis. >> fascinating. that nuance you offered very, very suck sixtily and quickly. i hope they're listening. >> call me. i'll help you. >> thanks. coming up for us, an all-white jury quikts a former police officer of raping 13 black women. the survivor, any moment some will be speaking live. stand by for this very clearly emotional moment. that's ahead. right when you feel a cold sore, abreva can heal it in as few as two and a half days when used at the first sign. without it the virus spreads from cell to cell.
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>> when you heard your name out of anderson cooper's mouth, what did you feel? >> proud. i'm proud that i took that step and i'm happy for the kids. this is really for them. they are the ones with the hard stories and the struggles, and they have overcome so much. >> what do you want people to know about the children of e nepal? >> there is hundreds of thousands of girls who are not enrolled in school, and many hundred orphaned children because of of civil war, and disease and starvation, and i can't do it alone, we have to do it together. >> how is this money going to help you? >> i am building a brand-new school, and i'm going to take in more kids. it's gas in the tank. it is remembering what this is all about, and why we do it. so i am taking this back to nepal and for nepal and for my kids, and i'm just going to keep
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