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tonight. that is it unfortunately or fortunately. i'll see you back here tomorrow night. "ac360" starts in just a moment. good evening i'm john berman in for anderson tonight. we begin with breaking news, the first arrest in the san bernardino terror attack and new details about the attacks, plural that one of the killers planned months before the shooting. enrique marquez bought the guns used. tonight he is in custody and facing three charges. the shooters were killed as they fled from police. what we are learning from court documents deeply disturbing. pamela brown joins me now with more. these attacks that enrique marquez is being charged with planning with syed farook a few years ago, what have you
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learned? >> we first told you about the attacks that marquez and farook wanted to do something in 2012. now we are learning how disturbing the plots were. syed farook and his friend enrique marquez planned to use pipe bombs for an attack at riverside community college where they were students, targeting the library and cafeteria area. they wanted to maximize casualties and they planned to start this attack by throwing pipe bombs into the cafeteria from an elevated position on the second floor and they planned a rush hour attack on a major highway where they would throw pipe bombs into cars and shoot into the stopped cars and kill people. very disturbing. >> i understand there was a dispute in the doj even to bring this terrorism charge, right? >> that's right. my colleague scott glover and evan perez, we were told that
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this debate of whether or not to bring this terrorism charge today went into late last night. in fact it wasn't on the table 24 hours ago. and then within the last 24 hours it was included in this criminal complaint. and there was dispute whether or not to wait on the terrorism charge whether to bring it later or at all. this is an attack that marquez backed away from, this is the time he distanced himself from farook. >> i was talking about this with evan and we were under the impression there would be the weapons charges alone. >> so we know he purchased these ar-15s used in this shooting and he bought the guns so farook could avoid attention which is a violation of federal and state law. you can't buy a gun for someone else so they can avoid a background check.
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nationally they were going to focus on that charge. but if you look through the complaint, john, marquez called 911 after the attack telling the operator that his neighbor was responsible for the shooting and that farook used his gun. but he said in here that he gave his gun to farook for safe storage. >> and that's not all. on top of all of this, there is a charge about a sham marriage with a member of farook's family. >> that's right. so we know that marquez was married to a woman who had -- was related to farook's brother. he was a sister of farook's brother's wife. if you can follow me here, he married her so he would get $200 a month in exchange for her being able to stay in the u.s. she was here from russia and if she didn't get married to a u.s. citizen she would have to go back to russia. that is also a charge he faces. >> so many concerns about terror right now. a teenager in pennsylvania was
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arrested and charged for supporting isis. what details do you have on that? >> that's right. this goes to the heart of the threat right now, this case. a 19-year-old was charged with conspiracy to provide support to isis. the complaint says he tried to communicate through encryption with others. and he tried to help others we believe were terrorists travel to syria. and he had a tactical style to go back that that was discovered during a search of his home with high capacity weapons and magazines. authorities believe he wanted to launch an attack here in the u.s. >> a lot of new electronic leads to follow there as well. a lot of reporting right there. a lot to talk about with our panel. joining me, former fbi counterterrorism agent tim clem day. and peter bergen.
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philip mudd who has been a senior official in the fbi and cia and senior legal analyst for cnn, jeffrey toobin who is a federal prosecutor. tim, a lot of planning, a lot of preparation seemed to go into these two attacks that thankfully did not take place a few years ago. what do you make of all this? >> well, john, it's pretty customary for al qaeda and isis to overplan things. 9/11 took five years in the planning and i don't believe that was absolutely necessary to execute the type of attack they did. in this circumstance it was a simple attack going in with pipe bombs and off the shelf items you can get in a hardware store and black powder and you have pipe bombs. i think they try and overwork these things in their mind when they are planning these attacks and thankfully they are. those are the types of things that lead to them stumbling. the more pre-planning, the more
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preparation, the easier it is for law enforcement to find out about a plot and disrupt it. in this case one of the planning assailants decided to give up the plan and disclosed it to law enforcement after the san bernardino attack. >> usually what happened or often what happens is that something goes wrong and something leaks. it didn't here. the only reason we know about it because an attack took place a few years later. and now what does that tell you? two guys can do this planning for so long. >> this is confusing to me. you think with this much time and the investigation, the questions would start coming off the table about motivations and acquisition of weapons. but there are at least three to many i can't figure out. we went through a radicalization process. three years past between 2012
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and 2015. nobody else was radicalized? we went through a process of target selection. in those three years between 2012 and 2015, the subject never thought about another target? i don't get that. and finally and most significantly, as pamela was saying they were looking at the targets in 2012 to maximize casualties. why then three years later do you pick a target that resulted in significantly fewer casualties at that county building. there are these questions still that are unresolved and may never be resolved. >> at least some of the questions may have to do with the way that the feds are prosecuting this right now or the charges they are levying. what kind of legal jeopardy is this man under? what are they trying to do with him? find out if there was anyone else involved? >> he's going to say, look, i came forward, i talked to the authorities and told them about these other plans. i was not involved in the actual
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shooting. the response to that legally from the prosecution is going to be, you know what, when you are involved in a terror plot and you give another terrorist a machine gun, an assault rifle, you are responsible for the foreseeable consequences which means his using it. i think legally, he's in a world of trouble. now, he is going to -- the question is, can he cooperate? >> what can he give them? >> that's the question. if anyone else is involved. the thing they are going to want most is the names of other co-conspirators. if the only one he could cooperate against is dead that doesn't really help him very much. >> peter, i want to ask you this, the criminal complaint says that farook wanted to pledge allegiance to aqap in yemen. for a while it didn't seem to matter which terrorist network
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he could identify with or work with. he seemed to be shopping in a way. >> that's exactly right. at the time he was shopping for al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, that was the most virulent jihadi group in the world. isis was two years in the future that it would come to the fruition. so you know, but i think one of the interesting things about the complaint is how much al qaeda in yemen is mentioned, how many times inspire magazine is mentioned and had impact on the way they constructed these pipe bombs. the recipes in inspire magazine called for christmas lights as detonators for some bombs. we see that in what they were doing in san bernardino in that garage behind their house, building those kinds of bombs. part of this is an effort by federal prosecutors if you are going to say that marquez was con pyring to support a terrorist organization you have
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to establish there was a terrorist organization at the time in 2012 when they were thinking about this attack and you could make the case that this wasn't an effort to do something on behalf of al qaeda in yemen. >> we are learning about an arrest of a teenager in pennsylvania who had a go bag filled with ammunition and a lot of activity online. is this just one, now, of you think many arrests that will happen over the next several weeks, the renewed focus of possible activity in the u.s.? >> i think we will see this kind of airs for the foreseeable future. isis is an online entity. their recruiting efforts are very, very widespread throughout social media. but they are currently the winning team in that regard. they are the winning islamic extremist organization on the planet. so they are going to attract more people. they are going to attract a lot
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of the losers who are home alone on the internet and thing think this is the ideology of the future. this is the '60s radicals are now the 2015's radical terrorists. and phil, what is your gut tell you about the investigation in san bernardino right now. you have been part of this type of thing before. do you think it stops with the dead terror couple or do you think there is a connection to anyone else out there, even if it's just a financial connection? >> i think -- this is where i'm salivating to see the hard drive. i think the prospect in the years between 2012 and 2015 not a single other person had an inkling of information not talking about co-conspirators, no one knew that a bomb was being built, i don't buy that. >> would that be a crime if someone knew? >> it depending what they did. if they knew and didn't do anything to advance the
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conspiracy that's not a crime. morally it's certainly very indefensible but simply knowing is not a crime. but if they bought something for them or helped them get a visa, any assistance that is not necessarily criminal on its own but helpful to a conspiracy that includes you in a conspiracy and you can be prosecuted for it. >> thank you all, gentlemen, for being with us. appreciate it. >> coming up next for us, jeb bush took aim at donald trump in the debate. and the hits keep on coming. can he give his campaign momentum? can he rise above the trump frenzy? we're going to ask him that and much more. and donald trump got unsolicited praise from an unlikely corner, vladimir putin and now we have a new statement from donald trump about what he thinks about this putin kind of endorsement.
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the jeb bush we saw in tuesday's republican debate is not the jeb bush that showed up to earlier debates. some of the most heated exchanges were between the former florida governor and donald trump including this one. >> i think jeb is a very nice person. but we need tough people. we need toughness. we need intelligence and we need tough. >> you said in september 30th that isis was not a -- >> am i talking or are you talking? >> i'm talking. >> you can go back. you interrupted me. are you going to apologize, jeb, no. am i allowed to finish? >> one at a time. >> governor bush has not let up on mr. trump. the question is, is it too late to make up lost ground in poll numbers are in the low single digits. and vladimir putin had lavish
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praise for donald trump. a bizarre turn in an election like none we have ever seen. jeb bush joins me now from el paso. i want to start with your reaction that vladimir putin said donald trump is a bright and talented person and the absolute leader of the presidential race and donald trump says it is a great honor to be nicely complimented by a man so highly respected within his own country and beyond. what do you make of all that? >> i don't respect vladimir putin. he is the leader of an important country, certainly not a regional power as barack obama called him but to get praise from vladimir putin is not going to help donald trump. he is not a serious candidate and he would bring chaos to the presidency. it's entertaining but we are at war right now with islamic
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terrorism and he has not offered one compelling, specific thing to do to keep us safe. it's high volume, a lot of talk but nothing specific. he hasn't taken the time to learn the issues. i think we need someone with a steady hand in the presidency. we're never going to beat hillary clinton without something to back it up. >> you to say he is the candidate of chaos. but what are you going to do about it? you are doing due diligence looking into whether you could pull out of the pledge you signed to pull out of the pledge to support the nominee whoever it is. >> because donald trump had threatened to go become a third-party candidate. i didn't know that they were doing this. but it's a smart thing to do to determine what the consequences are for making that kind of decision. my intention is to win the nomination. as we get closer to the
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caucuses, donald trump will begin to fall. he is not a serious candidate. listen to his comments as it related to the nuclear triad. this is the pinnacle of our deterrent to be kept safe. he had no clue when hugh hewitt asked him that question. if he is going to be the president of the united states he needs to be a serious person not someone who believes it is an entertainment show. >> your campaign was doing due diligence to see if you can pull out of the pledge. >> exactly. that's right. it was related to his threats to leave the party. >> so now -- >> this is not going to win the nom nation. that's the basic point. he's not going to win the nomination. he's not a serious candidate and all the other candidates seem to be intimated by him. i'm not. he's a bully. he's not offered compelling
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alternatives to the path that we're on and we desperately need to change direction as it relates to the national security. >> do you wish you could pull out of the pledge to support him if you want? >> i'm focused on creating a tragedy to destroy isis in the caliphate. we need to create a safe zone and no-fly zone and embed with the iraqi military and we arm, directly, the kurds and what donald trump is suggesting we ban all muslims which would make that impossible to do. my point is that we're at war with radical islamic terrorism. the president of the united states refuses to acknowledge it and donald trump does as well. >> you spent a lo lot of times saying that you were sick of talking about donald trump. you do see more willing to talk about donald trump. why is this now a good strategy for your campaign? >> my strategy is to talk about
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my plans and when you can come paine pair it to donald trump it makes it more vivid that long before the attacks in paris and tragedy in san bernardino, i laid out a specific proposal to be able to destroy isis which is what we need to do. it requires america's leadership in the world and requires building an army sunni led in syria and getting back in the game as it relates to iraq and without american leadership this is not going to happen. we can't do it alone. when you compare it to donald trump who said in september that isis was not a threat and let russia take care of syria when their interest is to prop up one of the most brutal regimes in the world it shows a lack of understanding where we are in the world today. >> would he make a better president than hillary clinton today? >> i don't think that hillary clinton will be elected president of the united states. and her proposals aren't much better. >> you didn't answer my question. would he make a better president? >> i learned not to answer
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questions. that's one of the things you do in political discourse. you answer what you want to say. >> so you're just not going to answer outright? don't the republican voters deserve to know. you are attacking donald trump every day now. >> i am. >> is that part of your campaign? do you think he would make a -- >> i don't think he is qualified to be -- absolutely, i'd be a better president than hillary clinton. >> would donald trump be? >> my point is -- he is not qualified to be commander-in-chief of the america's greatest fighting force. he's had a chance to bone up. god willing he will start doing it. but this is all about him and not about creating strategies to keep us safe. and the world has been turned asunder because of the lack of american leadership. we don't need another verse version of that. >> as the republican party been hurt by his presence? >> hurt? no. we still have a long way to go.
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he is a gifted politician. he consumes all the news space. he is pretty effective at that. but to have this -- have these subjects be brought up at a time of great national security concerns is appropriate. and i'm going to do my best to be able to give people a sense that i have a steady hand and the plans to keep us safe and i will rebuild our national security apparatus so americans can go about their business. >> talk about where your campaign is right now. a lot of people are pleased after tuesday night's debate and in some cases relieved. they see it as a chance to improve in a race that has been tough until now. you have a project new hampshire, you may spend half of your time between now and new hampshire primary up in the granite state. how is this going to work? >> we've always intended starting in january to spend disproportionate amount of time in the four states in february.
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starting with iowa and of course new hampshire is really important. so nothing's changed in that regard. there is more intense effort to do that for sure. as the circumstances change you adjust. i feel good about where we are in the early states. we have a good organization and i'll focus on the message and let the pundits opine and let the -- >> you don't think you can win iowa any more? >> i i'm running to win every state. you cannot be a candidate and say i'm going for sixth place or something like that. that's not how campaigns are run. i'm just saying my focus is on offering a hopeful message about the economy with detailed plans to do it and showing i have the proven leadership skills to be able to keep us safe as a nation. >> can you keep up the paleo diet through the holidays?
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>> no. i cheat. m and ms is my best recourse to cheat. i can't afford to keep changing my pants and clothes, i'm cheating on a regular basis. >> thank you for being us with. happy holidays. appreciate it, sir. >> likewise, thanks. >> all right. anna navarro and john king will weigh in next. plus reaction from inside the trump campaign to what governor bush just said. jeb bush just refused to say whether donald trump would make a better president than hillary clinton. what do trump supporters say about that. federal authorities joining the hunt for this texas teenager. all because his lawyers argued he was so rich he didn't know right from wrong. that same kid appears to have skipped town. stay with us.
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about donald trump. >> this guy's not going to win the nomination. that's the basic point. because he's not a serious candidate. and all the other candidates seem to be intimated by him but i'm not. he's a bully. he's not a serious candidate. he's not offered compelling alternatives to the path that we're on and we desperately need to change direction as it relates to national security. >> joining me to talk about this anna navarro and cnn chief national correspondent, john king. john, it was interesting there. clearly governor bush has decided to go after donald trump a lot. it's happening in superpac ads and on the stump. it's happening in the debate. we just saw it there too. but there seems to be a line as well. i pressed him pretty hard on whether he thought that donald trump would make a better president than hillary clinton. he said he learned not to answer
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questions. >> he's no fan of hillary clinton. he probably would say that he would -- even though he would like hillary clinton as president he would sleep better. but he is not going to say that running in a republican primary. governor bush has made the tactical decision after trying to ignore donald trump of saying i'm going to be the guy who takes him on and trying to get toughness points for it by saying that the others are intimated by him but i am not. we are 45 days from iowa. it looks like ted cruz would win iowa and donald trump is a close second. at the moment you say ted cruz or donald trump is going to win iowa. but does jeb bush compete there earn try to be third or pull off a miracle in iowa or concentrate on new hampshire or try to do both? we are in the chess phase of campaigns. even though there is a superpac supporting them, none of the guys in second, third, fourth,
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or fifth -- >> refresh our memory, how many republican nominees have lost in iowa and new hampshire? >> it's almost impossible. i would also refresh your memory and say at this point in 2003 on the democratic side, howard dean was way ahead and john kerry was in ijt asks in iowa. and in 2008, rudy giuliani was leading in the polls at this point. you can't count governor bush out but the hill is steeler by the day. there is no question he had a better debate on tuesday. but to see the fight in him, jeb has energy and is in the fight. but do voters reward him for that? we'll have to what. to see if the numbers move in the key states. >> you are one of the donors, one of the supporters. you like the tougher jeb bush you saw in the debate. you like the jeb bush attacking donald trump we just saw on the
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show a few minutes ago? >> i love that jeb bush. that is the jeb bush i have known for 25 years and wondering where he is. i'm very glad to see this jeb bush who is willing to fight and show the hunger and show the thirst to be in the fight. i'm glad that america is getting to see it. from a tactical point of view, going after donald trump is brilliant for jeb. i know a lot of the people on the debate stage and other than lindsey graham, jeb is the only one showing the guts to go after donald trump despite the fact i know so many other people on the debate stage think that donald trump is a bully and it is hurtful to america and to the republican party yet they are not willing to take him on because they don't want to antagonize his supporters. jeb bush has nothing to lose. nobody that is a donald trump supporter is going to vote for jeb bush. he is doing what he thinks is right and showing principled
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conviction and showing guts and leadership. and it's a wide open lane for him. nobody else is taking it on. so i'm very happy to see it. i also am very happy to see that he wouldn't answer your process questions. whether he's going to -- whether he prefers donald trump or hillary clinton doesn't have a thing to do with his qualifications to be president. >> wait a minute. the bush campaign is all over the newspapers talking about doing due dill yans whether they can back out of the pledge. you have to ask the question right now. he signed a pledge to support the nominee and his campaign is looking to get out of it. he should be willing to answer that question. >> he should have a campaign that shouldn't leak he is thinking about it. >> i'm a hell of a lot more interested in knowing what the paleo friendly liquor is he is going to stay on for christmas than who he thinks is worse,
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hillary clinton or donald trump? do you prefer me to cut off your right arm or left arm? >> john king, if you will, talk about the marco rubio-ted cruz spat that is going on about affirmative action. >> immigration is what you meant. and ted cruz put up an ad that shows the picture i was waiting for this to come. it's an immigration ad showing a picture of marco rubio at a party on immigration issues. and ted cruz is trying to cement his momentum in iowa. iowa is the spring board for him. he tries to prove he is the evangelical candidate who has the resources to go on and win. if ted cruz gets momentum they changed the republican calendar this year. this is a calendar the party built hoping to get a nominee early. if ted cruz gets momentum.
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the calendar could be built for him. >> anna far very row, john king, thanks for being with us. what the trump camp had to say about what bush said to me moment ago. and more on the news about the hunt for this teenager. his lawyers argued he was too rich and spoiled to know right from wrong but now he has slipped town and federal authorities have joined the hunt. if yand you're talking toevere rheumyour rheumatologiste me,
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a virtual hug from vladimir putin. joining me to talk about this is the co chairman and policy adviser for the trump campaign. thank you so much. i think you might have heard jeb bush speaking to me moments ago saying that donald trump is not a serious candidate and not qualified to be commander-in-chief and would not tell me if he would support donald trump over hillary clinton. what do you make of that? >> i think it's probably the musings of a desperate candidate and leave the major commentary to mr. trump. i don't think i need to sit here and regale the audience with our thoughts about a person who is at 3% when my candidate is at 42%. >> he called your candidate a chaos candidate. you know, and donald trump last night says he has been disruptive at time and a little dismissive of the other
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candidates. is that one and the same thing? >> i think what is really been going on here is the dynamic of a race where we have 15, 16 people that started in this. i think we are seeing things starting to settle. we're starting to see, it's like a bicycle race where we start to see a breakaway coming. we have four or five people that are breaking away from the rest of the pack. i think that's going to settle. that will probably crystallize as we get closer to february 1st and the iowa caucuses. and i'm pretty confident that mr. trump is going to come out on top here in iowa and certainly in new hampshire and south carolina. >> i want to talk about what russian president vladimir putin said that donald trump is the leader of this presidential race, a bright and talented person without any doubt. how will that praise from vladimir putin play in iowa? >> i think people put it in
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context. i think they will take it as seriously as they need to. and i think that, you know, president putin probably had the comments to make there. he is a very calculating individual. i'm sure he said those things with a particular intent in mind and mr. trump's supporters will take him in the context they were offered. >> but donald trump himself said it's great to receive praise like that from someone who is so respected in his country and around the world. you have been around a long time. you are respected in your state. do you think that vladimir putin is the kind of guy you want saying nice stuff about you? >> he is certainly a leader and a pivotal person and i think what it may be is the fact that mr. putin is showing respect to a person that he understands has the strength to match him. and i think when you talk about the russian mindset and vladimir putin is the personification of
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that, i think maybe it's reflective of the fact that there is a respect there that perhaps mr. trump is the only person in this race that can stand up to mr. putin and i think he maybe is acknowledging that. >> but what about the knowledge? it came up in the debate the nuclear triad. >> let me -- >> go ahead. i have talked to a lot of people on that. i'm 29 years in the military. i spent my time working on planning for the nuclear triad. nobody probably knows that better than i do and a lot of areas here. and i guarantee you there weren't three people on that stage who knew what the nuclear triad was. >> i think it comes down to where we see the american people. i think the american people are very, very strong about the
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notion that where imdwrags is an important issue to them and anybody that supported a path to citizenship or amnesty is probably not going the do as well out here as a person who hasn't. so i think that if you take a look at that, i think that senator cruz has been very strong on immigration and senator rubio probably not so much. >> sam, it's always great to speak to you. thank you so much. >> thanks, john. happy holidays. the fbi and u.s. marshals joining the search for the affluenza teenager who said he was too spoiled to know right from wrong. he is missing. an arrest warrant is out. details ahead. ♪
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more breaking news, the fbi and u.s. marshals have joined the search for a texas teenager
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who avoided prison for a drunken driving accident by claiming he suffered from affluenza. he was sentenced to rehab. an arrest warrant is out for couch after he didn't check in with his probation officer. >> reporter: look closely at this video. that young man with the blond hair may be ethan couch. if it is he could be in big trouble. that's because couch is on probation an isn't supposed to be ink doctoring alcohol. at 16, couch drove in a drunken haze, crashed and killed four people. >> do we need ambulances? we flipped and oh, god. >> reporter: someone posed the beer pong clip on twitter and the county d.a. got wind of it. they went to talk to couch about it but he disappeared.
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his probation officer has not heard from him in days. no one knows where he is. >> i told you so. >> reporter: the county sheriff wanted couch locked up in 2013 but one defense witness changed that. >> in one of the most bizarre defense strategies we have ever heard of, attorneys blamed the boy's parents for his behavior that night because of how they raised him. a psychologist testified that the boy suffered from affluenza, a lifestyle where wealth brought privilege and there were no consequences for bad behavior. the affluenza defense touched off outrage across the country. after all, couch's blood alcohol was three times the legal limit and four people were dead. but the court bought it. couch pleaded guilty to intax cation manslaughter. his father agreed to pay half a
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million dollars for rehab. victims' families were horrified. >> we had over 180 years of life taken future life, not 180 years lived but future life taken and two of those were my wife and daughter. >> reporter: abc news obtained these deposition tapes. listen as ethan couch's mother admits letting her son drive illegally. >> you understood if he was at any time he was under 16 he was never to be driving by himself. >> yes. >> nevertheless, you allowed that behavior to happen, correct? >> yes. >> when's the last time you recall disciplining ethan for anything? >> i don't remember. >> and now the authorities think couch might have fled the country with none other than his mother. the boy's attorney would not discuss the case.
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if authorities do find couch a judge will decide if he violated his probation. if so, this time ethan couch could end up behind bars for a decade. randy kaye, cnn, miami. >> joining me, sheriff dee anderson. and jeffrey toobin, a former federal prosecutor. when you learned that couch's probation officer could not reach him this week what went through your mind? >> i was not surprised. i predicted two years ago that something bad was going to happen of this. it didn't shock me at all. particularly in light of the video that surfaced. i'm sure he believed his probation was in jeopardy if not completely revoked. i had been expecting something like this for the last two years. >> you say not surprised. were you upset? >> i was upset at the time. i'm frustrated to have done what
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he did, take four innocent lives, impact those families in a way none of us can fathom and never express one isn'tment of remorse it was all about him, what can he do to get out of it. and so, i'm frustrated. i was frustrated then. i'm frustrated now. i want him to be held accountable once and for all. the families deserve that and society deserves that. the nation is frustrated. i'm bombarded with people that are outraged that he is now on the run and not being held accountable again. >> jeffrey, you were surprised when he got just ten years probation for this. are you surprised now he could be on the run? >> you know, berman, it's a polarized season in the united states. it's politics. this is finally a story in the holiday season we can all come together on. this is so awful. this is so horrible.
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this is so outrageous that no one, the sheriff of course because he has to live with this, no one can look at this story and be anything but horrified at what wealth and privilege got this kid and to have gotten that incredible undeserved gift of probation and to use it to play beer pong and disappear, you know, only proves how awful the sentence was in the first place. >> and may still be using it to go on the run. you think me he may be out of the country? >> i wouldn't be surprised. they had a good head start. he reported to his probation officer and hasn't been seen since. i don't believe they would have run a short distance. i'm not going to be at all surprised if they are out of the country. i don't have any intelligence information telling me that but my gut feeling says they have the money and the ability to disappear and i'm fearing that they have gone a long way and may be out of the country. >> do you know if he has a
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passport? >> i do not know for a fact if he does or does not. he very well may. >> the fbi and u.s. marshals joining the search. what does that mean? >> it means they are searching for him. but he has had a several day head start. and in an age where you get on an airplane and there is nothing about him, there is on him. he is not an ankle bracelet or anything like that that would say he is a felon and he's not a household name. so if he went to most airports in the united states he could take off with no problem. >> and jeff, what's next in the legal process? >> got to find him first. that's the only thing that -- you can't have a legal process without a defendant. and you know, the good news is, if there is any good news the longer he stays away the more he will be punished for this. >> any last message you send to
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ethan couch and the families he hurt. >> my sympathies to the families he hurt. ethan and his mother can run but we will find you wherever you are, the fbi and the u.s. marshals will be looking until we find you. you will always be running and we're going to come get you and do everything we can to hold ethan finally accountable. >> thank you so much. we'll be right back. red 97! set! red 97! did you say 97? yes. you know, that reminds me of geico's 97% customer satisfaction rating. 97%? helped by geico's fast and friendly claims service. huh... oh yeah, baby. geico's as fast and friendly as it gets. woo! geico. expect great savings and a whole lot more.
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