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of the democratic presidential debate. our coverage begins at 10:30 p.m. eastern. until then, thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. next, president obama telling americans, if you see something, say something, calling it the best defense against terrorists. is that really america's best chance? plus, donald trump confident the nomination is his but could ted cruz steal it away? we'll show you how cruz could trump the front-runner. an outrage over a homework assignment about islam, shutting down an entire school district. let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm i'm erin burnett. president obama trying to calm a nation and telling them not to
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worry about attacks and why terrorists are harder to track than ever. >> it is very difficult for us to detect lone wolf plots or plots involving a husband and wife. it's not that different from us trying to detect the next shooter. >> the president's comments are the latest in a series aimed at reassuring americans his isis strategy is working. he made no mention about reports that he admitted he had been slow to recognize the fear in the country following the paris and san bernardino attacks. our senior white house correspondent jim acosta is "outfront" live in washington. jim, the president reportedly admitting in an off-the-record meeting with columnists that his messaging on isis wasn't strong enough, that he had wished he had been more forceful and more quick. but today it didn't sound like he said anything different. >> reporter: that's right, erin. you heard the president say once again today that the u.s.-led
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coalition will continue to hit isis harder than ever. we'll continue to go after its leaders and conduct air strikes. there was no offering of a new strategy today. you're not going to hear that from this president because they are convinced they have the right approach. it is not an invade first and ask questions later approach. it's one that they think is smarter and more risk averse, quite frankly. but as for whether the president has been tough enough on his messaging, as you said, erin, this is really about the optics and message coming out of this white house after the paris and san bernardino attacks. and i have talked privately with aides who acknowledge, yes, it could have been stronger in those days after the attacks. the president was bristling at those questions about his strategy after what happened in paris. so in the last two weeks, he's amped up the bully pulpit, the national counterterrorism center, he's going to san bernardino later tonight to meet with the families of the victims out there. all of this is to say essentially we've got this.
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and so, you know, the problem for the president in the coming weeks, he's going to be on vacation in hawaii but when he comes back in 2016, you heard him say earlier today, he's going to leave it all out object the field. he's not going to be a lame duck. the problem, erin, is that this has the potential to really overshadow the last year of his presidency if he can't take out isis in this last year that he has left in office. but, you know, i'm told by officials that he is determined as ever to crush isis. you may not have heard it rhetorically in the last couple of weeks. you may hear more of that in the coming weeks. he has a state of the union address on january 12th and i'm told national security and reassuring the american people about their safety will be a big part of that. >> thank you, jim acosta. right now, the president is meeting with the san bernardino victims of the terror attack. the only person charged in the massacre that killed 14 people, enreek kay marque
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enreek enrique marquez, was the couple's neighbor. >> reporter: a man who posted facebook pictures of himself in goofy grimes, called himself anti-social, who friends saw as harmful. plotting to unleash terror, says the fbi. years before marquez would become a central figure in the san bernardino attack, he was a suburban california kid, childhood neighbor to syed farook. marquez began attending a corona, california, mosque, telling people that he had converted. farook introduced marquez to radical islamic ideas, farook showing marquez the lectures of anwar al awlaki. >> it always comes down to that basic issue that it's disenfranchised youth. he felt an issue where he wanted to feel part of something and,
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unfortunately, being part of something, in his view, was being part of radical islam. >> reporter: investigators say the men soon began discussing carrying out their own terror attacks. marquez telling investigators he purchased two ar-15 rifles instead of farook because his appearance was caucasian while farook looked middle eastern. the men aimed to use their in a rush hour attack. marquez telling the fbi they discussed this hill, the lack of exits to detonate pipe bombs. farook would then move along, stop vehicles, killing trapped drivers. court documents say they also plotted to bomb the community college they both attended. targeting the library or cafeteria to kill as many as possible. but the arrests of three others in 2012 on terrorism charges spooked marquez and he stopped
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plotting with farook but the two remained connected by marriage. marquez married the sister of the woman married to the gunman's brother. the fbi says marquez was paid $200 a month to marry the russian woman for legal residency. a sham. advice tobl neighbor britney adams. >> you could tell that they were close but i would never assume that the sister and him were married. >> i had never seen him with a woman in three years. i don't know. white shirt and a pair of pants and he looked like a pillsbury dough boy. >> he was living a lie. as marquez wrote on his facebook page last month, he was leading multiple lives. marquez wrote, "involved in terrorist plots, drugs, anti-social behavior, marriage, might go to prison for fraud." now, marquez is also charged with purchasing those two ar-15 rifles used in the attack, purchasing them for farook. there were also undetonated
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bombs found in that room where the massacre happened and the unexploded powder that was inside those bombs, they trace back to a purchase marquez made as well. erin, tonight marquez is being held here in los angeles in a federal lockup. erin? >> thank you very much, kyung. "outfront" now, chris swicker along with tim clem men ente. you heard the president say, if you see something, say something. in a sense, that's the obvious but it's also concerning. should people be calling about every abandoned bag? what do you call in about? what is seeing something? >> seeing something is anything out of the ordinary, erin, the abandoned bags are something that people have to call about if it's in a particular place. if somebody puts it down and they get a drink from a water fountain, don't call 911. but if they put it down and they are gone for two, three, four, five minutes, that's an indication that they either don't care what is in that bag or there's something in that bag
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that could be a danger. obviously when incidents like what happened in san bernardino happen, the individuals there had a particular plan, a particular target. the individuals at that party and then possibly first responders after the fact, there was probably going to be a secondary attack. but somebody walking into a crowded bus station, walking into a theater and leaving something behind is very much out of the ordinary. i just wish that the president would have a little more passion about the subject when he's talking about it. >> yeah. he's very calm. he's very measured. i mean, chris, this issue of seeing something, saying something, you said people who knew farook definitely noticed. you know, we've talked about this. there were pipe bombs all over that apartment. his mother was living there. she never said anything. why didn't anybody say anything? >> well, what we have heard is that one neighbor saw some things that they thought were suspicious, decided not to report it because they didn't want to stigmatize their neighbor. we know that marquez actually posted something very
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interesting on the internet or in a private chat with someone about being involved in terrorist plotting and other things, fraud, et cetera. the person on the other end should have reported that. that's enough. i think most of the time the -- you know, active shooters -- let's just expand it beyond terrorists. most of these people are flashing red to the people that are close to them. they demonstrate actions and do things that are very obviously abnormal and suspicious. >> so tim, to this point, though, that chris just said, some people are afraid to sound racist if they call in. i mean, should they be? >> no, they shouldn't worry about that at all. the fact is, when you make an accusation to the law enforcement agencies you're calling by dialing 911 or by calling the if. bi directly, you're not accusing anyone in a form of a court. you're not convicting them. all you're doing is alerting law enforcement that there's a
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potential, that there's something potentially going on here. you can stay vigilant by watching. >> on the issue when you were talking earlier to our producer, are people worried about calling in on muslims? and you pointed out, look, this is not a problem that exists with blond presbyterians. >> it's not. the fact of the matter is, erin, this group, the group of radical islamic extremists come from the group of muslims as a larger population and they have vocally and physically demonstrated that they are at war with us. so we can't ignore the fact that they are coming from that pool, that population of people. so to ignore that or not look in that direction at all is ignorant. if you were an antelope and keep getting attacked by lions, you're fearful of lions and we have to be fearful of some people, small minority possibly from the muslim population but we have to be cognizant that
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that's who they are. >> chris? >> a good point that tim is making is the muslim community themselves and in the case of farook, noticed some unusual things about him. he was growing his beard and acting much more devout. he was sticking to himself more. i mean, i saw three or four interviews where they noticed something changing about him and i think the muslim community is going to have to step up and their religion is being hijacked and they need to step up and start working with law enforcement, working with the fbi. and i was the primarily ay lias. we didn't get much cooperation. >> a pretty damning statement. thank you to both of you. "outfront" next, ted cruz about to speak live to reporters tonight. he's surging in the polls. we'll show you how the nomination could be his for the taking. plus, who is donald trump calling dumb as a rock tonight? and virginia school shutting down today, thousands of
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these are live pictures at a ted cruz rally in georgia. cruz is trying to beat trump at clenching the nation. he can make up this ground as a distant second but it can be done. first, sunlen serfaty is live. he's still far behind trump but in second place. what are you hearing there on the ground? >> reporter: well, it's interesting, erin, when you talk to supports of ted cruz he's
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well behind donald trump but many of the supporters say they are not that worried about that. it's an interesting and obvious in kind of a telegraphing that he's not going to take on donald trump he's not going to take on the front-runner, at least publicly. we saw that in this week's debate and that's because the cruz campaign is really looking at the poll numbers beneath the mainlines. they see a recent poll found that 26% of trump supporters said that cruz would be their second choice, more than any other candidate. so it's a very specific strategy by the cruz campaign, not so well masked that they will try to woo these trump supporters over to their side. erin? >> sunlen, thank you very much, at that rally tonight. how does the map work? can ted cruz win the nomination? the answer is yes. and the south is key where he's
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on that massive tour. tom foreman is "outfront." tom, what exactly is the ground game for cruz to get the crown? >> well, erin, think about this. let's talk about the earliest of the early voting. let's talk about iowa. our latest numbers show that if you have the voting now, ted cruz could win there, walk away with more delegates than anybody else. more away to new hampshire and that's where the trouble begins. trump has a big, big lead there. you can see cruz down here duking it out with rubio and carson. same thing if you come down here to south carolina. trump and carson are up top. over in nevada, even worse, here right now, cruz isn't even showing up in the top four so why does he hang around? he hangs around because of what sunlen was laying out there. look, when you move into march, suddenly you have a bunch of other states light up. 13 states in one early day there. hundreds of delegates up for grab, including some of those
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southern states, including texas, his own home where he should do very well. so his idea is just stay in striking range and he's got the ground game out there, erin, to make it happen in a lot of places. >> so if he, though -- when you go through the ground game, you get a lot of second, that's good. but he still loses, right? it's close but no cigar? >> that's exactly right. however, there are several ways in which that may not be the way it plays out. first of all, what if trump does stumble in all of this. sunlen mentioned a minute ago, if trump gets into trouble, he's positioned to grab all of those voters. what if cruz gains momentum? what if he has some big win somewhere? and he could. and suddenly people say, he looks like the guy right now. that changes it. and again, being in position everywhere helps and here's a really key one.
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what if no one runs outright? nobody has enough delegates to claim the prize right then. then you get into a floor fight, erin, and in that floor fight it's up for grabs and someone could cruz could absolutely wheel and deal their way into a win. >> thank you very much, tom foreman. let's go straight now to our political commentator, the former romney campaign and adviser, kevin madden and president and ceo, bob vand vander platts. he's a ted cruz supporter. some of this may involve a likely scenario on the campaign floor but it absolutely could happen, he could get there fair and square well before that. does that concern you when you look at the general election? >> well, i think it is difficult when you have somebody like ted cruz who has largely defined some of his positions on issues by what he's against instead of what he is for. if you look at some of the
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traditional states that are going to be battlegrounds in the general election, places like florida and ohio, arapahoe in jefferson, county, which is critical to winning a place like colorado, it could prove more problematic for him as a general election candidate. >> bob, what do you say to that? i know you love him but don't you want to win the white house? >> we definitely want to win the white house and that's why we're endorsing ted cruz. where i would disagree is that this is going to be a base election and hillary clinton has a huge problem with her base and bernie sanders. ted cruz is going toin spir his base. if it was up to independents, mitt romney would be the candidate. he's not. the more people see ted cruz, the more they like him. he'll inspire the base. i believe he wins. >> do you agree with that, kevin, that -- because all we heard about for the past five years, it's about the center, it's about the center, don't go
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too far to your base. that's the opposite of what we're seeing here with ted cruz and bernie sanders but with ted cruz. >> bob has a theory on the race that i think is interesting. i would love if we could meld the two, which is inspire our base and some of the those suburban key areas. for ted cruz to be much more viable, he's going to have to do two things. a broader appeal beyond just the base and win over some disaffected democrats and independents. also, he's going to have to appeal to a larger demographic base. and one of the reasons that mitt romney had a problem in 2012 was that we got crushed amongst latinos and asia-americans. when you have an immigration program or even an economic argument that doesn't appeal to latino voters, we, unfortunately, will fall below that 40% threshold if we're
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going to win a general election. so i would love to see a bob and kevin come together to form a general election. >> moderate republicans and certainly for independents. >> accept the nazis and in america there were voices that listened to that. >> this deal is consummated. the world's leading financeer of radical islamic terrorists. >> here's the simple and undeniable fact. the overwhelming majority of violent criminals are democrats. the media doesn't report that. >> barbara, is that going to be a problem with him? with independents and the general election, comments like
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those? >> well, i think, first of all, what kevin is saying about bob and kevin coming together with regard to a general election strategy, this is a country on edge right now. they are very fearful about their security. >> yes. >> both foreign policywise and domesticallywise. you need a real bold leader who you can trust today. i think in a general election people are going to rally around a ted cruz versus a hillary clinton with the benghazi and e-mail scandal. i think ted cruz wins. i really do. >> i think that's a good point. if ted cruz were going to continue to draw hard contrast with hillary clinton in a general election, on the issues like that, there are certainly going to bring together more republicans and, as well, some disaffected democrats and a larger degree of independents. >> does that get you there over the line, if you get all of the republicans? is that enough any more? >> i think it is.
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i think there are better candidates right now. one of the reason so many people are drawn to a marco rubio candidacy is because he is probably better positioned to bring together two factions inside the republican party. the tea party element as well as the element that believes we need to be a party that expands our base and our appeal. so that is why i think ultimately you're going to see this race start to shift away from nontraditional candidates like donald trump who, in my mind, is not really a republican and ted cruz and marco rubio. we're going to have a good, honest battle for the direction of the republican party and ultimately will be able to bring the party together in a general election. thanks to both. "outfront" next, donald trump calling jeb bush dumb as a rock. is it helping bush. a teacher assigned homework on islam. why parents feared for their children's lives. our special report.
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tonight, trump on top by a huge margin in a new poll, the first taken since this week's debate. let me emphasize this, this is post debate. it includes their performance.
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trump leading with 39% of the republican primary vote, up 11 points from one month ago. that is a surge by any definition. and it's more than double his nearest competitor, ted cruz at 18%, followed by then marco rubio and ben carson. jeb bush is in a four-way tie with 3% of the vote who trump focused on today. trump said, "the last thing our country need is another bush! dumb as a rock!" and@jebbush should remain true to himself. these are among the many tweets trump fired at bush. now, just to be fair, bush did start it. he took the first swing when he tweeted "does donald even know putin backs iran/assad? does he care? we must stand up to putin not
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cod dell him #chaoscandidate." >> i don't think it's about who is threatening trump. the reality is, jeb bush is not popular in this type of republican primary base. donald trump knows that. so when you send out a tweet like that and kind of make fun of jeb bush or make fun of the family even, never mind it's a revered republican family, you know, you sort of get a lot of likes and retweets. donald trump is more controversial in conservative circles, certainly on talk radio to, go after jeb bush and it's all strategic and i think we saw that at the debate in las vegas when jeb bush was saying things donald trump didn't like it. but mainly, it's a simple thing to do and he will not make angry
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those talk radio hosts are who are also important to donald trump. >> that's right. now, in terms of the poll that i just talked about, the new poll today, obviously he's on top by a huge margin. there's else significant within that poll and that is that that number is very solid and strong. those are loyal voters. >> right. let's look at those. 71% are die harders. i'm not surprised with the trump rallies and still soaring and staying on top because his supporters love him. nothing that they have done has turned him away from them. >> jeff zeleny, thank you. "outfront" now, jeff lord, who served as ronald reagan's
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political director. why is trump going after jeb bush so furiously, which is accurate when you describe someone as dumb as a rock. >> well, for better or worse for jeb bush, is he a symbol. he's not just jeb bush the person. he's become the symbol of the republican establishment and donald trump is the anti-establishment candidate. >> right. >> and unfortunately, jeb bush is riding along in this latest poll at 3%. he's not a threat to donald trump but very much a symbol. so by going after the symbol here, he does score some points and remind everybody what is going on. >> which, of course, is very smart from that perspective. now, i will note, again, jeb bush started this fight today. he was the first one to tweet it. it wasn't donald trump who started it. the question is, is it hypocritical of bush to do this? he keeps saying trump isn't a serious candidate and takes to twitter to insult him.
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>> well, he's not a serious candidate. i think everybody knows that. he's a chaos candidate. you listen to the things that donald trump has said and he's just not serious. anyone who thinks that it's good to be friendly who is a thug from russia and act like it's something positive when this guy caused serious problems in eastern europe and now in the middle east he's not a serious candidate. let me tell you, i'm proud of governor bush and the fact that he stepped up. >> 39%, though, of -- i mean, that's a huge margin. ted cruz is second at 18%. 71% of trump voters say they won't vote for anyone else. that's a serious candidate. >> the national polls don't matter and everybody knows that. what is going to matter is iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and nevada in the early states. what we know is that jeb bush has the courage and guts to take on donald trump while other candidates like chris christie, senator marco rubio and senator cruz seem to be avoiding the confrontation. someone needs to step up and jeb bush seems to be the only person
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willing to do it to tell donald trump that he's not serious, this is not a game. america has real challenges and he is the man who is capable of leading us forward. >> does donald trump need to listen to this in part that he should be seen as a more serious candidate that, yes, you can do all of these things and call someone dumb as a rock but he shouldn't be doing it? >> he is a serious candidate, erin. obviously the polls show it, the american people are reflecting it and, to be perfectly candid, jeb bush is trying to take on donald trump. he's out of the race. governor jindal is out of the race, he tried to take on trump. governor walker tried to take him on, he's out of the race. and jeb bush is now taking him on and he's now at 3%. so i wouldn't think that this is the best approach for him but he's going to do what he's going to do and riding along at 3%, i don't think he's getting very far. >> will, trump was not just
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insult, he's offering advice. i have an idea for jeb bush who's campaign is a disaster. try using your last name and don't be ashamed of it. there is something to this, right? i mean, for a long time -- >> yes. >> will, i wouldn't even say for a long time. right now the headline is jeb! . should he just have embraced it and owned it the way that donald trump would have? >> nothing could be further from the truth. there's no question. jeb is his own man. he's running as his own man. he was a wonderful governor in the state of florida. people can think the way they want about the bush family but they know how to hunt down and kill terrorists across this world that are posing a threat to the united states of america. and the bush family, i believe the american people care about the bush family, respect the bush family and jeb bush is just another person who i believe the americans, when it comes time to vote, are going to be looking
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for somebody who can lead this country and is not scared to take on the terrorists, to take on people like vladimir putin and lead this country forward and make us safe. >> all right. thank you both very much. and if you missed the republican presidential debate on tuesday night, which had, among its highlights, some moments between trump and bush, you can watch it replay tonight right here on cnn, 10:00 eastern. "outfront" next, an entire school district shut down by threats of violence, e-mails, charging students were being intok ti indoctrinated into islam by a teacher toto the nation's capitalut to support an important cause that can change the way you live
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. tonight, a homework assignment about islam shutting down an entire school district. students studying world religion were asked to copy the arabic text that you see here. parents, though, were angry. and the local sheriff tells "outfront" that tens of thousands of people from across the country flooded the school's phone lines with threatening messages including pictures of beheadings. schools shut down across augusta, georgia, 10,000 students told to stay home. voluminous phone calls and electronic mail. outrage spreading after students were asked to copy an islamic phrase that translates as, "there is no god but allah and
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mohammad." some angry parents saw it as preaching islam to their children. >> i will not have my children taught by someone who indoctrinates islam. >> reporter: the course has been taught for years and in a statement insisted the phrase was not translated for students nor were students asked to translate it or adopt it as a personal belief. but many were not buying that. in fact, sheriff randy fisher told "outfront" that the district has been inundated with e-mails telling us they were, quote, very hateful, threatening and profane, including pictures of beheadings. >> it shows the level of anti-islam hysteria when
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somebody feel the need to threaten and schools to be shut down. >> pretty stunning development. "outfront" now, president of the arab american institute. what happened here, james? >> you had fear trumping learning and it's something that is not new. i actually wrote a book about it back in 2010 called "arab voices" about what we don't know and why we don't know it and, therefore, how we fear arab and islams because we don't know. and fear and ignorance are a very lethal brew. we've seen that play out in our country on many levels before and we're seeing it play out in this school. i mean, thank god no violence occurred but the anger that is born of fear and ignorance is troubling so did the school district do the right thing and was that an action in and of itself? >> i can't speak to that because
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i was not privy to all of the communications that they received and we actually were under police protection for several weeks but in this case where the school district responsibility is, has to be is to educate parents. educating the kids about world religion is critical. look, we've been in the middle east now engaged as a country for decades. we've sent more troops, lost more lives, fought more wars, spent more money. we're so invested in that region we can't afford to have a generation of kids grow up who do not understand the first principles about that region and to say i stand behind jesus, that's real nice and i appreciate that because i'm a christian, too. but you must understand islam. you need to understand buddhism and hinduism or we can't function in a world environment. >> is this as broad as paris and san bernardino or as specific as donald trump? >> well, it's a little of everything but donald trump
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certainly feeds it. we're releasing a poll that shows that the partisan divide is about what gay marriage was 15 years ago, almost like a mirror reflection of each other. it's pretty scary out there. but looking we've had a situation in this country for the last hundred years where we have not understood or taught about the arab world or islam. you know, when we went into iraq in 2011, national geographic did a survey, asked people -- i'm sorry. in 2003, asked people to identify iraq on a map and only 11% could find it on a map. and -- >> yeah. >> -- four years later after we've lost a few thousand young men and women there, it jumped up to 37%. we are heavily engaged in the world and if you don't understand what they are saying but think you know, then we are in real trouble and that's the situation we're in.
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donald trump and ted cruz act as if they know about islam. they don't know the first darn thing about it and they make mistakes every day and they are leading a nation into more hate and more division. >> james, thank you very much. and next, the breaking news on bernie sanders suing his own party, saying that the dnc is protecting hillary clinton in cahoots with her, a major allegation tonight. and pope francis confirming what many have long believed about mother teresa. hi i'm heather cox on location with the famous, big idaho potato truck. our truck? it's touring across america telling people about idaho potatoes. farmer: let's go boy. again this year the big idaho potato truck is traveling the country spreading the word about heart healthy idaho potatoes and making donations to local charities. excuse me miss, have you seen our truck? you just missed it. ahhh! aw man are you kiddin' me?
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moments ago, bernie sanders launching a lawsuit against the democratic national committee. this war broke out after the dnc cut sanders off against a crucial database because the sanders' campaign reviewed confidential information collected by hillary clinton's campaign. he turned the tables on his own party. >> the leadership of the democratic national committee is now actively attempting to undermine our campaign. this is unacceptable. individual leaders of the dnc can support hillary clinton in
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any way they want but they are not going to sabotage our campaign. one of the strongest grass-roots campaign in modern history. >> up front with former presidential advisor to four presidents, david gergen. david, does bernie sanders have a point that the deck is stacked against him? that the dean see and hillary could be essentially in cahoots? >> it's a nasty fight. both sides have a point. the clinton campaign has a valid objection to the fact that the sanders campaign, when given an opportunity, a glitch they went into hillary's files and got information that was valuable and that was wrong and the sanders campaign has fired people as a result of that what the sanders campaign has not done is ensure that whatever advantage they gain has been erased and they're not using them anymore. they need do that.
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at the same time, written, the sanders campaign has a very valid point, too. the agreement the sanders campaign had with the democratic national committee, if you read the brief, makes it very clear that the dnc should have given written notice and given the sanders campaign ten days to cure this problem. >> right. >> and they didn't do that. they just suspended them and it locks them out of extraordinary valuable information. in my judgment, erin, the people who have the most to gain from resolving this quickly are not the sanders campaign, it's the hillary campaign. she's going to win this nomination but it's very, very important to her she win it fairly and squarely and not win -- not be seen by the progressive wing of the democratic party as having done something that was rolled over their candidate. >> adding to the issues she's had a perceptions but of dishonesty. >> and people being angry and staying home. absolutely. so i think she has a strong
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interest in getting this cleaned up as quickly as possible. she's going to win the nomination. she doesn't need this. >> david, tomorrow, democratic debate and a lot of people are shocked there's a debate tonight six days before christmas on a saturday night. half of the democratic debates -- and only six of them -- are on saturday nights. does that smell fishy to you? people aren't going to want to watch. >> absolutely. and this is part of what bernie sanders and his people have been arguing all along that the democratic national committee has stacked the deck against them by scheduling these debates in such a way that very, very few people will watch. there are four democratic debates before the new hampshire primary. new hampshire primary, of course, is critical to sanders. four democratic debates before the new hampshire primary. three of them are on weekend nights, on saturday or sunday with small audiences. there's been one democratic debate that -- during the weekday, it got twice as many people as the debate on a saturday night. so the sanders campaign has a point here. >> thank you very much, david
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gergen. next, one of the towering figures of the last century soon to receive one of the highest earthly honors. we have a report.
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she was one of the most accomplished and beloved people of the 20th century and the catholic churchgoing to declare mother teresa a saint. >> reporter: she was born agnes into a middle-class albanian family in 1910 in what was then part of the ottoman empire. she left home at 18 to become a catholic nun, calling herself teresa and traveled to calcutta, india, to serve the poorest of the poor. in calcutta, she received what she later described as a call within a call. mother teresa left her position as the headmistress in a convent school to follow jesus into the slums, she said. she sheltered orphans abandoned in garbage dumps, comforted the insane, cleaned the elsers of
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lepers. she rescued the destitute, the old, people dying in the sewers. many called they are saint of the gutters. she believed there was no disease worse than the disease of being unwanted. >> people are not hungry just for bread, they're hungry for love. people are not naked only for a piece of cloth, they are naked for the human dignity. people are not only homeless for a room made of bricks, but they are homeless being rejected, unwanted, unloved. >> with a world-celebrated beauty, theresa was small and plain, just 4'11", 150 centimeters. where possessions were worshipped, she carried only a prayer book. yet she became a global figure, a friend to the most celebrated of celebrities as well as the poorest of the poor. when she won a nobel peace prize in 1979, she persuaded
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organizers to scrap the banquet and give the sayings to the unprivileged. she founded the missionaries of charity, a congregation with branchs in over 100 countries to carry on her cause. her forceful personality and her swerving believes put her in conflict with some. many criticized her opposition to contraception, divorce, and abortion. but she was not to be turned. >> abortion is a terrible evil and if you do not want a child, i want it. give it to me. >> reporter: mother teresa died in 1997 at the age of 87. she was beatified if 2003 by the late pope john paul ii. beatification, which requires one miracle, is the last step before sainthood. with this latest announcement from pope francis, the woman known as the living saint will be officially recognized as such. delia gallagher, cnn, rome.
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thank you so much for joining us, have a wonderful weekend. be sure to set your dvr to record "out front" so you can watch the show any time. see you back here on monday. "ac 360" starts right now. good evening, i'm john berman in for anderson. we begin with breaking news, the first poll taken since the cnn republican debate, the first measurement of who might have gained the most from the event. the first sense of who might be in the best position heading into the holidays. the answer? well, it rhymes with "donald trump." in fact, it is donald trump. in the poll from fox news, trump is at 39%. that's an 11-point surge since november. ted cruz 18%. that's up four points. marco rubio is at 11%, that's down three points. ben carson fell nine points, he's the single digits. so much to discuss with our

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