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washington and sources tell cnn obama's plans for gun control is not yet finalized. gun control advocates though are expecting an announcement before obama's state of the union speech. that comes a little early this year on january 12th. i want to bring in senior white house correspondent jim acosta in honolulu, and jim, you're hearing more about the details on the president's plans. tell us about them. >> reporter: that's right. he's going to be discussing those plans with loretta lynch on monday. we expect to hear about it later on next week, but in the meantime, the president is almost at the end of his hawaiian vacation. time to put down the golf clubs and pick up the presidential pen and don't say the words lame duck around president obama. this president has and ambitious agenda set for 2016 and at the top of the list is gun control. for president obama the final round is about to begin.
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>> in 2016 i'm going to leave it out all on the field. >> reporter: up first in the president's eighth and last year in office, mr. obama's long promised response to mass shootings in the u.s. sources familiar with the plan say it will be a package of executive actions on gun control. expected before the january 12th state of the union, and aimed at the gun show loophole which allows firearm sellers to avoid conducting background checks on their customers. >> all across america, those who lost a child or a parent, or a spouse to gun violence, are forced to mark such awful anniversaries every single day. and yet, congress still hasn't done anything to prevent what happened to them from happening to other families. >> reporter: the president will review the slate of administrative changes with attorney general loretta lynch on monday. the president's actions will be within the executive authority, and in line with polls that show broad support for tightening
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background checks. >> change is always going to take all of us. the gun lobby is loud and well organized in its defense of effortlessly available guns for anyone. the rest of us are going to have to be just as passionate and well organized in our defense of our kids. that's the work of citizenship to stand up and fight for the change that we seek. >> reporter: vowing to fight the move, the nation's biggest gun lobby, the nra says the president is doing what he always does when he doesn't get his way. defying the will of the people and using executive action. another controversial proposal -- the president will ask congress to shut gown the terror facility at guantanamo and he may close it on his own if they balk at the plan. the president also hopes to travel to cuba and perhaps more than a dozen over countries in what's shaping up to be a global farewell tour. but the president's agenda could
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be up ended by set backs in the war on isis. a foreign policy crisis that could complicate white house plans to have the president campaign heavily with the 2016 democratic nominee, a prospect that may put him and hillary clinton on the trail together again. >> i think we'll have a strong democratic nominee. i think that democratic nominee will win. i think i'll have a democratic successor. >> reporter: now as for the race for the white house, we know in the last several hours, donald trump has surfaced to really to go after the president on this issue of gun control and these executive actions on gun control. the white house welcomes that debate, they want to talk about gun control. they don't mind the fact that there are republican candidates talking about the president's executive actions on this issue. and speaking of donald trump, we should note i came out of a briefing with the deputy national security adviser, ben rhodes. he was briefing reporters on what to expect from a foreign
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policy standpoint in the upcoming year. and ben rhodes was asked about donald trump appearing in this al shabaab terrorist recruitment video, being the al qaeda connected group and because donald trump appears in the video and has talked about banning muslims from coming into the united states, ben rhodes said about donald trump appearing in the video, quote, we are at war with terrorists, we are not at war with islam. we need to defeat this narrative that allows them to recruit people. so ben rhodes did not directly comment on donald trump being in this video. but he did say that these comments made by donald trump and other candidates that might lead to the recruitment of terrorists is not good for the u.s. national security of this country and what the president is trying to do coming up in the coming year. briana? >> all right, jim acosta in hawaii, thank you.
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donald trump is hours away now from an appearance in mississippi and thousands of supporters are expected to attend his rally tonight in biloxi. trump is forming a mississippi campaign team ahead of the state's presidential primary that will take place on march 8th. i want to bring in phil mattingly now, he's there ahead of this event. i know at the risk of asking you to predict what donald trump going to say, do you think that perhaps he's going to respond to this al shabaab video at the rally tonight? >> reporter: what you have seen from donald trump over the last couple of months is when an issue gets a lot of attention, he'll talk about it. but you know as well as anybody, you can't predict what he'll say. i think the campaign team will say, so far today his targets when it comes to twitter and that's his preferred form of communication when he's not at a rally have been hillary clinton, bill clinton and jeb bush. starting off the new year with the same old list of targets. he hasn't directly commented on
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that, but as you heard jim say the white house is not directly talking about donald trump. the other democrats are talking about it on a fairly regular basis. isn't donald trump going to talk about it, odds are he'll be bated into it. democrats would like him to at some point. >> back to the president's plan, we are still waiting for details but it's clear he'll put out a plan to take executive action on guns. >> reporter: yeah, that's heard. donald trump will weigh in on tomorrow on cbs. what he's saying basically is he's opposed to it. th that's not a surprise, but take a listen. >> i don't like it. i don't like anything having to do with changing our second amendment. we have plenty of rules and regulations, there's plenty of thing they can do right now that are already there. they don't do them. we have a tremendous mental health problem, we're closing places all over the world, all over the country, but they're closing all over the world.
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tremendous mental health problems, nobody is doing anything about all that. all they want to do is blame the gun. it's not the gun that pulls the trigger. so i don't like -- >> reporter: now, one of the interesting aspects here is in a book written by donald trump in 2000, he criticized republicans for staying too in line with the nra. he's walked that back over the last couple of months, he has been a strong proponent of gun right and the second amendment. you won't see him waiver on that. it's a fight that they're willing to have this campaign season and trump is opposing the president on whatever gun actions. one year from now, a newly elected president will be preparing to take office. you can expect plenty of political maneuvering between now and next january. what's going to shape this coming political year? my next guest is a man with big questions and some big answers.
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i want to bring in historian and princeton university professor. you wrote a piece and this outlines the most important questions for 2016. you wrote, how much can executive power accomplish? we now know, julian, that the president is going to push for executive action on guns. in what other areas do you think that the president is going to use his power, his executive power to get things done? >> well, i think he's going to continue to try to use this on climate change. he's been relatively successful over the past few years doing this. although it's going to be challenged in the courts. i think he'll continue to try to find ways with immigration to make progress with executive action in ways that he can't on capitol hill. so i think that's the trifecta of policies, where with we'll see this move forward. >> so before i read the next question, i do want to play some sound from a trump supporter getting tossed from a bernie
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sanders event. >> here's a trump supporter worried about mr. trump's money. [ crowd boos ] i say to mr. trump an his supporters that the billionaires in this country will not continue to own this nation. >> i mean, so the economy is obviously a big issue there. on both sides of the ticket. how is the economy going to recover? this is your question. how will this affect republicans and democrats in the white house? >> all the major signs have been positive which obviously helps the democrats, helps the incumbent party. the problem is it's a weak recovery. i mean, it's a recovery where many middle class americans don't feel successful. and don't feel secure. that's exactly what donald trump is trying to tap into. it's exactly what bernie sanders is trying to tap into.
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so it's important, hillary clinton doesn't just praise the kind of recovery numbers we have seen. but talk about how this country can provide a much more solid foundation to economic growth that we have had. >> final question, this is interesting to me. can hillary clinton overcome the third term blues? >> it's a big one. you know, other than george h.w. bush, there's been a difficulty with vice presidents following incumbent presidents and as secretary of state she finds this. she has to find ways to distance herself from some of the unpopular positions of obama and some the problems -- problem areas like syria, without totally subverting and denigrating the administration of which she was a part of. so this is a big general election challenge for her. it's not as much of an issue in the primaries. >> it going to be a big political year. i'm just glad it's finally here. julian, thank you so much. i'm sure you are as well.
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>> thank you. and tomorrow, you can hear from two of the top candidates for president on cnn's state of the union. bernie sanders and carly fiorina will be on live tomorrow, 9:00 a.m. eastern, only here on cnn. coming up, missouri's governor has wrapped up a tour of the devastation from a week of deadly flooding. hear his incredible reaction to what he saw and what lies ahead for those down river. at aleve is the better choice for her she's agreed to give it up. that's today? we'll be with her all day to see how it goes. after the deliveries, i was ok. now the ciabatta is done and the pain is starting again. more pills? seriously? seriously. all these stops to take more pills can be a pain. can i get my aleve back? for my pain, i want my aleve. get all day minor arthritis pain relief with an easy open cap.
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record high flood waters are receding in the st. louis area. this puts millions of those in the community further south on alert for flooding. missouri's governor wrapped up a tour of the damage. i spoke with him a short time ago, where he made it clear the danger continues. >> this is a storm that went all the way from the western side, touching the oklahoma border all the way to the illinois border and then down to arkansas and quite frankly, the water is still rising in southern missouri. so the massive nature of what we're dealing with here, concentrated significantly some of the worst damages here in the st. louis area. but it's a storm we're dealing with in the emergency management side. >> dan simon is joining me from eureka. this is one of the hardest hit towns, you see the debris behind dan and you understand why. tell us about what you're seeing
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there. >> reporter: well, hi. this is a giant debris field. this is what people have collected from their homes and one by one, you can see trucks like this one just dumping off all of this stuff. house hold items. you can see sandbags in the back that cannot be reused. the governor of missouri, jay nixon, you talked about it, he asked the obama white house for emergency declarations so they can speed up the debris removal process because he said that's ultimately going to allow people in missouri to get back on their field. this gives you some idea in terms of the magnitude of destruction. the floodwaters rose so fast, you had the river in this area come up to 36 feet. historic level and it flooded dozens of homes. this is what the governor had to say a short time ago. >> yeah, i'm from this pat of the state -- part of state and it's hard to believe. water was, when you come over re
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historic highs from the beginning of time, we kept records by four and five feet. when you see 55 -- when you see a full house that's floated into the highway 30 bridge and blowing up, it's almost as if you're living on another planet. >> and the governor is hoping that the white house will expedite his request for that emergency declaration in his words, a historic flood merits a historic response. >> what about these waste water treatment facilities that flooded, spewing sewage into the rivers? how does that affect the drinking water this? >> reporter: no question, that's a concern. you had two waste water treatment plans that were damaged by the floodwaters. there was some raw sewage that seeped into the floodwaters. so there was a concern that you would have a compromised drinking water. we asked the governor about
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this, fortunately there has been no contamination of drinking water. so folks at this point don't have to worry about that. but it's something they're certainly keeping a close eye on and will continue to test the water. >> thank you so much. coming up a possible bombshell in the freddie gray case. a new revelation came up about his health before his death. announcer: it's time to make room
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a stunning revelation is sending shock waves through the freddie gray trial in baltimore. this comes as the second of six police officers charged in this complex case faces trial. details now from miguel marquez. >> reporter: brianna, defense lawyers for caesar goodson, the driver for the van in which freddie gray was injured has filed documents asking for gray's health records and incarceration records. a baltimore police officer said that gray said a couple of weeks before he was critically injured in the back of the police van he had quote hurt my back or had a bad back. there could be other causes for gray's traumatic injury he received in the back of the van. the timing of this document is worth noting though. the officer john herzog, the sergeant offered up information
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on an unsolicited basis after gray was critically injured and after the riots in baltimore. herzog wrote this memo and sent net on may 1. gray died april 19th in herzog's original conversation with gray happened on march 31st. herzog said in the memo that his memory was jogged by all the press surrounding gray's death and the riots. and another document asked for gray's detention records because they cite an unconfirmed report that gray had tried to harm himself while in baltimore's central booking facility during a previous arrest. the prosecution argued gray's medical records, they're not relevant, having nothing to do with the injuries sustained in the back of the van last april. they said his back was critically injured because of the treatment by police. the judge in this trial is expected to rule this week on whether to allow those records in the goodson trial, who faces the most serious charges of second degree murder. his trial is expected to start
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january 11th. brianna? >> miguel, thanks. i want to bring in former l.a. prosecutor lonnie combs. tell us how this can affect the prosecution? >> well, the prosecution is going to tell you that this really has no effect on the case. but the big question for the jury is going to be how did he die? what caused this injury? can we blame the causation on the action of the officers and based on these filings by the defense attorneys, we can see very clearly the way they're going to try and defend this. they're going to say, look, he was already injured before. he had this prior back injury. and perhaps there was also some element of being self-inflicted. he somehow caused this for himself. the second part of the motion where they're asking for the information about when he was custody before is based on the tip they received that said
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perhaps in a prior time of detention, he did something to hurt himself. so they're looking for that prior behavior to say in this case, he did something to exasperate his own prior injury and that's what caused his death, not the officers' actions. >> the defense wants to create doubt here and i think we should also note that there re a number of other officers who are awaiting trial. how might the judge's decision here affect these other cases? >> exactly. well this officer that's going to trial right now is the driver of the van. so a lot of people say he's the most culpable. he has the most serious charges because the prosecution is saying that the injuries happened while he was driving the van. based on what he did intentionally to that van. which then caused the injuries to the victim in the case. the other officers obviously all of their culpability falls upon that. if in this case, the jury said look it was more the victim's
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prior injury and his own self-inflicted behavior that caused the injuries, that then works as defendense for all the officers in their trial. >> a judge declared a mistrial in the case of officer william porter, first officer to be tried. what kind of effect does that have on the other cases? >> well, it could be a really big effect. based on the fact that there were reports that the prosecutors had planned to use officer porter to testify for the prosecution in these other trials. they were hoping that either they would get a conviction and flip him and turn him to be a pr prosecution witness for them and he could be forced to testify so he could never claim the fifth amendment because he had been acquitted. however, it's suspended, in limbo because it's a hung jury. they won't be able to call him as a witness. so whatever evidence they were
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hoping to get from him from his testimony and apparently he has some things to say that would help the prosecution, they won't have access to. his retrial is set for after all the other trials so whatever testimony he was going to give, they were hoping for, is now in limbo and will not be able to be used. >> yeah, that certainly does mess with their strategy. all right. we'll be talking about bill cosby with lonnie and some shocking news that he's facing sex assault charges. what this means for the other women who have made accusations against the comedian. and now a face and a name for the deadly shooting in tel aviv. someone recognized him and called the israeli police. a live update is next. try alka-seltzer heartburn reliefchews. they work fast and don't taste chalky. mmm...amazing. i have heartburn. alka-seltzer heartburn reliefchews. enjoy the relief.
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breaking news from overseas this hour. israel has named a suspect in that deadly attack at a pub in
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tel aviv. he's 31-year-old nashat milhem. he's an israeli arab. surveillance video shows the lone gunman pulling the assault rifle from the bag and spraying bullets into a crowd, killing two, wounding eight. well, after seeing it the suspect's own father called police to identify him. right now, investigators aren't sure if this is terrorism or if it's just a violent crime. cnn's ian lee is joining me live from jerusalem. it turns out milhem has been arrested before. what more do we know about him? >> reporter: that's right. we are learning more about him in the last few hours. back in 2007 he was initially arrested for trying to take a gun from a soldier. he was sentenced to five years in prison. at that time though, he was diagnosed with a psychological disorder. he had been on medication. the family right now is saying they don't know if he's still taking his medication. but this all came to light when his father did recognize him from that security camera
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footage. he went to his safe to check on a gun. he noticed that it was missing. he went to the phone, called the authorities and said my son is the one that committed this attack. please arrest him. so right now we do have this massive manhunt under way. well over 24 hours after the incident which gives some authorities the belief that this could be well planned. but talking to israeli officials, their number one goal right now is to neutralize him. while authorities want to take him alive, their goal is to prevent him from carrying out any other attack. >> i know that the police are going door to door looking for him. do they still think that he's there, right there in that area? >> reporter: well, really, they don't know where he is. they do have roadblocks set up outside tel aviv. they're searching in other areas, but there is a blackout on this information. they don't want to tip him off of where they're looking.
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but they're still conflicted on whether to call this a criminal act or a terrorist act and the officials have said that it's unique, it's radical, it's complex because it doesn't fit any of those molds. a terrorist attack usually the person is at the scene of the crime. they're killed or captured. they don't run off. it doesn't fit a criminal passal. they want to capture him alive to figure out the motives behind this attack. >> this comes after a time when everyone is on edge after what prime minister benjamin netanyahu is calling a wave of terrorism. do you think this is going to affect security there? >> well, security has been ramped up. it was ramped up in tel aviv. especially around when they didn't know what the motivation behind this was. they still don't, but especially this weekend around synagogues
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when people were praying, and israel has seen an uptick in violence, especially the stabbings. the real reason they want to capture and interrogate him, they want to know if this is related, unrelated, if it is related it's definitely an escalation where a firearm is used in the attack versus a knife as we have seen in previous attacks. >> all right. thank you so much. as the new year begins we wonder what 2016 will unveil to the world. will isis continue as a threat? will the situation in syria further deteriorate? five cnn international correspondents sat down to discuss the major issues that they believe will impact our world in this new year. >> we're seeing the collapse of arab states basically. one after another. and god knows which country may be next. >> i hope i'm wrong, but i think it's going to get worse. i really, really don't want to be right about this.
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>> in terms of the next phase in isis' evolution, are looking towards libya? do you think that's where the push is going to be for them? >> i don't know. i don't know. i think we're going to see a lot of changes in syria and iraq possibly. possibly ones that have unintended consequences. i think we'll see many problems in afghanistan too and isis are a very attractive brand to a lot of poor and angry young men there. and i think the west got their heads around libya. >> i think it will get a lot worse in the sense of what you're talking about. it is going to change, but it's still going to be there and that fear that they're able to create and generate is going to be there. and let's not forget in all of this, i mean, the assad regime also and what they're doing to the population and how those actions and the fact that people feel so abandoned by the west
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that failed to come in and save them when it comes to dying at the hands of -- i said that's what drove so many -- i mean, how many activists are either dead, fled or they have become radical? >> disappeared. or disappeared. >> and let's not forget that you have just a mind boggling number of foreign militaries all flying and backing different proxies with completely contradictory, strategic goals. >> it's incoherent -- >> i think the consensus is forming around the need to actually move. you know? >> but i think everyone has a different idea about how to bring down isis. the russians thinking that bombing -- >> and supporting thes a sat regime. >> but isis is a nice lightning rod for the whole conflagration
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in the region. even if isis is defeated that doesn't fit the problem of the saudis and the irainians bei being -- >> but syria needs to be locked in the room together. >> and while we hope there's a consensus towards solving the presence in iraq, we're all ignoring the reality of the saudi arabian -- >> but i really believe it's possible we are seeing a seismic tectonic shift in the middle east and you will see a lot of the borders rewritten. they were artificially designated borders anyway. >> the way that boundaries were drawn was unsustainable. they would never last. but it didn't have to be this violent. >> this mythology that we can close borders and doors with the ebola crisis last year, with the syria crisis washing up on europe's shores, i mean, europe essentially knows that it is existential to get the house in order this year. i don't think we are mature enough to actually make the
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right decisions. i don't. i'm -- i have really sadly lost a lot of faith in humanity. >> you say that, but i know each single one of us has a story from the field where we have been completely overwhelmed by the kindness and the extraordinary generosity of people in the worst possible situations. and i think that's what i hold on the. >> well, bill cosby's wife will testify this week in the civil case against her husband. coming up, the questions that camille cosby can face and how it could impact her husband's criminal case. ♪ (trap door opening) rootmetrics in the nation's largest independent study tested wireless performance across the country. verizon, won big with 153 state wins. at&t got 38, sprint got 2, and t-mobile got zero. verizon also won first in the us for data, call speed, and reliability. at&t got... text. stuck on an average network?
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camille cosby will no longer be allowed to remain silent on charges against her husband. a judge has ordered her to testify on wednesday in a deaf nation -- defamation suit in massachusetts.
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seven women who accused cosby of drugging and sexually assaulting him said he portrayed them as liars when they came before. the plaintiffs say they subpoenaed mrs. cosby because she was her husband's business manager. this was a criminal bombshell this week, bll cosby because arrested and could face up to ten years in prison on sexual assault charges in pennsylvania. he's out on $1 million bond at this point in time. join me now to talk about this is former l.a. county prosecutor loni coombs. so we want to start with the civil case and to be clear, this is a civil case, this is what we're talking about with camille cosby testifying in this case, and then you have the pennsylvania case involving andrea constand. in the civil case, what questions would you ask camille cosby during the deposition? >> well, remember, we're looking at a woman who is not only bill cosby's wife, but also his business manager so she has had a lot of access to what's been
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going on in both his professional and private life. some of the questions that the defense attorneys -- or the plaintiff's attorneys are saying they want to talk about are did she have anything to do with procuring the drugs that the women talk about? she was allegedly around when some of these assaults occurred so what did she know about the assaults? and we know from the deposition, bill cosby talked about how he would procure these quaaludes for the purpose of -- and the intent of having sex in combination with the quaaludes. so as his wife, does she know anything about the details of his sexual proclivities? does she know that he happens to like to combine sex with quaaludes? there's a lot of information she has access to which is why the civil judge said you need to testify in these depositions. you have relevant information and as dual -- not only as a wife, but as a business manager, you need to be accessible to the plaintiff's attorneys to be able to talk about these different issues. >> so why is there no marital
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privilege here? i understand why as the business manager she might testify to things that were in that scope of things. but it sounds like she's going to be testifying about things that are within the scope of just what a wife would know. why is there -- you know, no privilege? >> and this is a great question. you're going to hear a lot of different comments on this by different legal analysts because that's really not a firm set rule. in the criminal courts, the privilege applies very strongly and rarely will you see a spouse unless the spouse decides to waive that privilege be forced to get up and violate that privilege. it's pretty much a set rule, you don't have to get up and testify at all. however, in a civil case, it's not as strongly accessible. you can be forced to testify and you can be protected from giving some of the private conversations, but you may still be asked about actions or about
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observations that you had. the other thing is that the -- some of the legal analysts will say this is discovery in a civil case it's not an actual trial. however, we have a big caveat. we know that criminal charges are pending against mr. cosby in another state. most likely i would think his attorneys are going to go into the massachusetts court and say, hold on. we now have a criminal case pending, anything that mrs. cosby says in the depositions could be used in the criminal court which most likely she would not be forced to say any of the things under oath. so we want to put the civil case on hold while we resolve the criminal case first. many times, a civil judge will say that and they will give priority to the criminal case first. >> that's a really interesting point. so we may not actually hear from her for some time and if we do it may be after the criminal case is resolved.
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when you look at the sheer number of accuser, i think last count, it was 57 women who have come forward and they're accusing him of sexually assaulting them. the statute of limitations has run out on all of them. if the prosecution had their way they'll try to create a parade of alleged victims to convince the jury that this is a pattern of behavior. >> absolutely. and this is going to be some of the -- the strategy that we see going on between the prosecution and defense. in the pretrial motions before it actually gets to trial, what is going to be allowed in on what we call prior bad acts? prior bad act evidence is usually kept out, because we're not allowed to put on something that says, look, this guy has a propensity to do this, so he must have done it in this case. they want their jury to focus solely on the evidence in this case. however, there are exceptions to allowing in prior bad acts. there's a unique signature to
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the type of behavior. and in this case, there's an argument that what he did with these women, that's been alleged, is very similar over and over again. unique behavior. so that's one thing that the prosecution might allege. another thing, remember the big issue is going to come down is was this consensual or not? that's what mr. cosby has been saying. he said before this was a consensual relationship. they had a social dating relationship and this incident was a consensual sexual incident. so perhaps the prosecution will argue and say, look, we should be able to put in the prior bad acts to show there was no consent, he should have known because he had the prior incidents where he did the same thing and the women were not consenting and they were you know set and they told him so. so he should have known this was not consensual. that's another argument the prosecution may make to bring in the prior acts. it will be crucial because if the prior acts come in it's been shown that juries are very strongly swayed by evidence of prior acts which is why the judge will say, he has to weigh
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out how probative it is versus how prejudicial it is to the defendant. >> and the case may hang on that. we will see. loni coombs, thank you for joining us. ahead, bill cosby wanted us to buy jell-o. well, next, we'll talk with a branding expert about what a company does when its pitchmen end up putting their products in a bad light. announcer: it's time to make room
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bill cosby's arraignment this past week on sex assault charges was a far cry from his days as a commercial icon. you remember the jell-o pudding ads. he was the face of jell-o for almost 20 years but it seems he's become the latest in a long string of celebrity endorsers who have had run-ins with the law. i'm joined now by branding expert martha pease. martha is the author of "think round" and so, kraft, heinz, the owners of jell-o, they say they cut all ties with cosby months
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ago. does that put them in a better position to avoid the fallout in the accusations against him? >> yes, it does. any company that acts proactively to rid themselves of a celebrity is going to be in a better position. you have to think of celebrity endorsements as the coming together of you've got to brand of the company or the service and you've got the brand of the celebrity and it creates a a fairly complex situation. a complex balancing act. as long as everything's going great, it's great. as soon as something happens with the celebrity brand though, it obviously drags in the brand and the reputation and the company that they're associated with. >> there's sort of a similar case in the way when you think of jared and subway. of course, he was jared who lost all of this weight on the subway sandwich diet. subway immediately suspended its relationship with him when he was initially, these child porn charges came to light.
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now, he's in jail for them. he was still active with the company when the claims against him came out. maybe unlike or not unlike bill cosby, but i think his hey day was a long time ago. how does a company recover from this type of negative expo shoour? >> well, the company has done a pretty good job of taking steps over time to disassociate themselves from jared and they're on the upswing in terms of their brand reputation. taking an independent turn from what was the legacy of the association with jared. jared wasn't a celebrity before he came a spokesperson for subway. he became a celebrity because of the subway brand, which gives the subway brand a little bit more resilience in terms of how consumers are going to respond. and subway took two steps, which were important. one to initially distance himself when the accusations came up and when the criminal action became an actual reality. they completely cut ties with
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jared and so, they did the right thing and they positioned themselves both through pr and their actions and their communications i think appropriately. >> she lost some bill -- and that all of this came out when these photos surfaced in 2005 that seemed to show her using cocaine. when you look at issues of drugs, say instead of something instead of sexual assault in the case of bill cosby, are those treated differently in chanel said they were dropping her, but it didn't have anything to do with the drug. >> one way that companies can respond when they find themselves in situations like this, so that happened to be the choice that chanel made. the interesting question, kate moss wasn't prosecuted for drug
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use. it was something done in private. it happened to be caught in a photograph and happened to be you know, sent out through social media, so it was seen by people and some companies did in fact choose to either distance themselves or cut off their relationship with kate moss. others didn't. se kept some endorsements and some brand relationships in place, some companies stuck with her and stood behind her. but i think the question is is it criminal. versus is it something that happened in private that maybe unfrnts, you may not agree with. >> important distinction there. martha, thanks so much and coming up tomorrow night, we have a cnn special for you. steve jobs, the man in the machine. it's a controversial documentary from cnn films about jobs and his visionary influence on modern culture. we're going to show you a preview, next. it's hard to find time to keep up on my shows.
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that's why i switched from u-verse to xfinity. now i can download my dvr recordings and take them anywhere. ready or not, here i come! (whispers) now hide-and-seek time can also be catch-up-on-my-shows time. here i come! can't find you anywhere! don't settle for u-verse. x1 from xfinity will change the way you experience tv. steve jobs' great success cost him close friendship along the way. daniel helped him build his
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first prototype of the mac, but the close friends parted way when he accidentally revealed one of steve jobs biggest secrets. >> it might not sound like a familiar name, but this guy played a very important role in the founder of apple's life, far before he became the legend of steve jobs. >> this was our booth at the personal computing festival in atlantic city in 1976. >> daniel said the duo useded to do psychedelics together. they later moved to palo alto and worked out of a garage and built the first prototype of the mac, but their friendship had a falling out because of an important incident. >> she got pregnant and steve just was not, not, not me, it's not me. it's not me. right? even though that was not a
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reasonable thing to say. >> we had the opportunity six months ago to sit down with daniel. he opened up to us about this falling out and what it meant. >> from steve's point of view, it was a kind of a falling out. i actually did not really know why particularly. >> what happened zm. >> well, it was over a period of years and steve's girlfriend got pregnant. and he denied that he was the father. and that was kind of embarrassing. as his friend, i thought that was chicken [ bleep ]. to use a technical term. because he was pretty clearly the father. there was an incident where time magazine called me up asking for verification that steve had a daughter named lisa a and i said, oh, it's not a secret, but that was the wrong thing to say apparently and steve got very, very upset with me and that, that was 1990.
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that was 1980. '3583. even though i was working on the mac team at apple, he never really talked to me again. >> what did yu miss about him when you guys stopped talking? because he was a good friend. >> yes, he was, but he had changed a lot and so, he was building his empire. i was just struggling to become an engineer. steve was very, he did me a good turn. i was a technician at apple, technicians are not eligible for stock options. i didn't have a stock option. at that point, apple had gone public. i just badly wanted to an engineer and so, steve hired me as an engineer on the mac project. and so, of course, i was grateful for that. very grateful. >> you can be sure to watch alex's look at the real story of steve jobs. catch the film, steve jobs, the man in the man machine. it airs tomorrow night at 9:00 eastern.
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