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rene marsh, thank you so much. that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. i turn you over to wolf blitzer in "the situation room." he's got some hot new poll numbers from new hampshire. thanks for watching. happening now, stumping with trump. sarah palin hits the trail with the gop front-runner. what they seem to be attacking the republican establishment nearly as much as the democrats, is that a smart move? pulling ahead, breaking news. our brand new poll shows donald trump way ahead, but jeb bush is moving up in new hampshire. can he revive his campaign? i'll speak to jeb bush live this hour. isis jihadis, isis fighters are aggressively recruiting young muslim women online with promises of romance and an idyllic life, promises that are soon shattered. how many western women have been lured from their homes to join the terror group? and snow escape. 50 million americans are bracing for a major winter storm, and
washington could be facing a blizzard of historic proportions. airlines already preparing for a travel nightmare. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room". this is cnn breaking news. >> the breaking news our latest poll shows donald trump stretching his big lead in new hampshire, but it's getting crowded in the middle of the pack. and jeb bush is pushing his way into a tie for third place. my interview of the republican candidate just moments away. 50 million americans could soon be buried in snow, and many of them may have more than two feet to shovel. parts of the east coast could face a blizzard of epic scale. there could be widespread power outages, plows are on standby, airlines already scrambling to get ready for a travel mess. our correspondents, analysts and guests, they will have full coverage of the day's top stories. let's get to the breaking political news in new hampshire. our just-released cnn/wmur poll
for the state republican primary shows donald trump with a commanding lead. he has 34%, that's 20 points ahead of his closes rival who's now senator ted cruz. senator marco rubio who is second to trump in our last poll in new hampshire, he has fallen into a third place tie with jeb bush who's now on the rise. cnn sunlen serfaty is in new hampshire where ted cruz is about to hold a rally. sunlen, what's the latest there? >> reporter: well, wolf, ted cruz here in new hampshire trying to recover from a rough 24 hours for his campaign. but again today, the center of attention out on the campaign trail was not with him but focused squarely on donald trump and sarah palin. donald trump and sarah palin with an encore performance today. >> everybody wanted her endorsement. she said what you're doing, donald, is amazing. >> reporter: the duo hitting the campaign trail together in
oklahoma. >> we have a movement going on, folks. we have a movement. this is not -- this is not a normal situation. people are sick and tired and fed up. and, yes, we're angry. we are angry. >> reporter: rallying supporters at the conservative christian university oral roberts. >> and here we got a redhead from the big red apple running for president. and yet the gop machine all of a sudden they're saying we're not red enough. we're not conservative enough. and i say what in the world do they know about conservatism. >> reporter: boost to conservative credentials and threatening to cut cruz's argument that trump is a closet liberal. trump is flying solo this morning in iowa despite a campaign announcement that palin would travel with the gop front-runner to both of today's
events. >> how can you be running with a cloud over your head? >> reporter: giving trump the spotlight to himself to unload on ted cruz. >> with being a canadian citizen, he said, oh, i didn't know that. how did he not know that? then he said with the loans, i didn't know that. smart guy. he didn't know that? that's worse than hillary if you think about it. >> reporter: and twist the knife a bit. >> you have a great governor in the state. terry branstad came out yesterday and said you can't have cruz. and i think it has to do with more than ethanol. >> reporter: cruz today in new hampshire launching a fresh attack at trump for favoring big government when it comes to energy policy. >> donald trump promised not only to protect the ethanol mandate but to expand it to have the federal government do even more picking winners and losers by mandating ethanol be a larger part of the marketplace. >> reporter: amid this battle there are no signs of wear for
trump. a new national poll showing trump way out in front with more than twice as much support as his closest rival. and in a cnn/wmur new hampshire poll, trump tops the pack 20 points ahead of everyone else. facing these headwinds, ted cruz making a big point today to show he's trying to keep his spirits up. >> style matters. look, would it kill republicans to crack a joke? twalt some of them i think it might. you know, have a little fun for pete's sake. >> reporter: and ted cruz today here in new hampshire was forced to cancel two campaign events to return to washington for votes in the senate. this is the kind of deviation that really knocks him off his message at exactly the time, wolf, that he needs to be focused on using each and every moment out here on the campaign trail to recapture the momentum. >> sunlen serfaty in new hampshire for us. let's go to our senior white house correspondent jim acosta. today he's on the campaign trail
with donald trump and sarah palin. jim, they're attacking the republican establishment almost as much with a passion as they're going after the democrats. tell us what happened today. >> reporter: they're attacking everybody, wolf. this seems to be a match made in tea party heaven. christian conservative oral roberts university here, palin touted trump as the only candidate, quote, ballsy enough -- her words, meaning trump is strong enough to go rogue no matter the consequences. here's what she had to say. >> his candidate, trump's candidacy, this movement, this force, this strategy proves that, shoot, as long as that establishment, as lon as they get to keep their titles and their perks in d.c., and their media ratings, they don't really
care who wins elections. believe me on this. i've kind of been there and i see how they treat those who go rogue, like mr. trump does, in order to do the right thing. [ cheers and applause ] you want to know proof of that. even today the gop machine, they're attacking their own front-runner and his base of dynamic, diverse, very patriotic supporters. they're attacking you. because they can't afford for the status quo to go otherwise the gravy train it stops and they can't keep slurping from it. not if things change the way that mr. trump and all of we know needs to change. >> reporter: as for trump went after bernie sanders as a whacko and the billionaire tycoon said
he's determined to win iowa adding it won't mean much if his supporters don't turn out on caucus night. here's more of what donald trump had to say. >> we are going to win so much we're going to have win after win after win. you people are going to get sick and tired of winning. you're going to say please, please president trump, we can't take this much victory. please stop. we don't want anymore wins. and i'm going to say to you, we're going to win, i don't care what you say. we're going to make our country great again. we're going to win. we're going to win. and we're going to win! >> reporter: now, it's worth noting when palin was not at trump's side earlier today, he ripped into ted cruz. but when she was at this event here in oklahoma, donald trump declined to go after his arch rival in iowa, but, wolf, as for this chemistry between donald trump and sarah palin, it is clearly there. he sees a lot of himself in her. and i think vice versa. i think that's why they perform so well out on the stump, wolf. >> all right. jim acosta reporting from
oklahoma for us. thanks very much. as we reported our new poll shows jeb bush on the rise in new hampshire. he's now tied with marco rubio in third place. still though far behind donald trump. jeb bush is joining us now live from manchester. governor, thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. >> you've been calling yourself the anti-trump. some of the pundits out there think it's too late for a comeback. what do you say to them? >> well, we're making good progress because my message of hope that we can change the things in washington rather than just describing how bad things are seems to be working. i have a proven record as a governor of the state to disrupt the old order in tallahassee, florida. and i can do the same in washington, d.c. and i have proven ideas to lead our country going forward. and so it's a tangible result that people are looking for. i have the leadership skills to do this. donald trump is neither a conservative nor a leader. and while he's a great entertainer, and i respect sarah palin as well, he is not a
conservative. and we need to have a conservative be nominated to defeat hillary clinton. i don't think that donald trump can beat hillary clinton. i believe i can. >> listen to what donald trump said about you today at one of his rallies. >> how about bush? look, the guy spend now he's up to $79 million. now, i wouldn't even mention this but a lot of it's ads against me. he does these negative ads against me, otherwise i wouldn't mention it. maybe i would. but $79 million. and he's bing, down in the basement, right? the first thing he should do is get rid of the jeb stuff, get rid of all of the nonsense that he's going through with, i can fix it. his new slogan. he can't fix anything. he's a low energy person. low energy people don't get things fixed. but if he were a real politician, he'd be careful when he says i can fix it. because where i come from that's
dishonest. when you fix it, you're dishonest. he shouldn't say i can fix it. now, i think he's probably an honest guy, but a stiff there's no question about it. >> i want to get your reaction to that. but it seems those kinds of attacks in almost every speech he refers to you they seem to be having an impact. >> well, wolf, he's not going to win the presidency by tearing me down or tearing women down or tearing the disabled down more importantly or calling john mccain a loser becaus he was a p.o.w., or tearing hispanics down. that's not how you win. that's how you lose. we need to have an uplifting message applying conservative ideas in the right way. and that's what i'm prepared to do. look, trump's an entertainer. he's not going to be commander in chief or leader of the free world. he's not going to lead us to a safer and secure and freer america. and so i'm going to stay the course. the reason why he attacks me is he's scared of me. he's insecure.
he doesn't believe that he can take me on. and while i'm doing worse than him in the polls, the simple fact is why would he spend his time tearing down someone who's so low compared to him? this is because we're moving up. and i believe that he believes we're the real challenge for his winning the nomination. and the tragedy of this is we have a democratic nominee, likely nominee who is under investigation by the fbi. the only chance that she could become president is if we nominate a guy like trump. >> you've said that donald trump, and i'm quoting you know, he's a junkyard dog, that's for sure. i seem to be the focus of most of his attacks. then you said at one point, just one thing i need to get off my chest, donald trump is a jerk. so you've said donald trump is insulting his way to the presidency, but it sounds like you're insulting him as well. >> yeah. hey, did you just hear in our interview he just went through about a minute-long diatribe, is that a junkyard dog or what?
this is politics, it's not bean bag. i get it. the simple fact is people are hurting in this country. the main reason why i believe he's the wrong candidate isn't that he attacks me, it's that he attacks women, hispanics, the disabled. across the board he finds ways to tear people down to make himself look like the strong man. that's a sign of weakness. that's not a sign of strength. we need a president that has a steady hand, that has a servant's heart, that has conservative principles and a proven record to lead this country forward out of the mess that we're in. >> why is he doing so well in all of these polls? >> because people are angry about washington, d.c. and what i'm saying is i'm angry too. this system is not working right now. our democracy is imperilled. we need a president that stops pushing people down to make himself look better. and to have the ability to work with congress to fix how we tax and regulate, fix the mess that exists in washington, change the culture so that we could have rising income again for the middle class for people to be lifted out of poverty. and as important we need a
president who will be a commander in chief that will have the back of the military to and that's my advocacy to turn this angst and frustration into a force that will change the culture in washington so we can move forward. >> sarah palin as you know endorsed donald trump. you call that laughable. >> yep. >> that was your word. but she's saying donald trump is conservative enough. your response. >> look, i didn't say that her endorsement of trump was laughable. i have a lot of respect for sarah palin, particularly her commitment to the life issues and to protecting the disabled. we share a passion about that. i respect her. but for her to say that donald trump's a conservative when he was pro-abortion in the most recent past, believed in higher taxes, he thought hillary clinton would be a great negotiator in iran, he's been all over the map in foreign policy, not a conservative. rush limbaugh and others are now questioning his conservative credentials and i think they're right. >> governor, we have a lot more to discuss. toipt take a quick break.
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we're back with republican presidential candidate the former florida governor jeb bush. governor, a just-released poll shows you tied for third with marco rubio among likely voters in new hampshire's republican presidential primary. that's not that far down the road. i want to play for our viewers a new video your team just put out. the setting hypothetically november 8th, 2016, watch this video with our viewers.
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with almost all of the vote now actually counted, we can now project that hillary clinton will win. >> i'm watching hillary clinton receive the victory tonight. >> they look at donald trump as the greatest gift from heaven. an easy person to beat in the general election. >> and then she'll become the next president of the united states. >> thank you all. god bless you. may god bless america. >> at the beginning of that video that was my voice when i projected she was the winner in a race for the new york state senate. but you believe that donald trump will
guarantee hillary clinton if she is the democratic nominee, hillary clinton will win, is that the point of this? >> look, most of the polls suggest that. and i believe it to be true because he's not a committed conservative. he's all over the map on foreign policy issues and all over the map on domestic issues. he's not a conservative.
he hasn't been a consistent one. he's supported democrats more than republicans. and, yeah, he's the big personality on the stage. but that's not how you win elections. we need a committed conservative that has a proven record to take on hillary clinton. the clinton hit machine will be fierce. and you need to have someone that actually has a proven record that's been thoroughly vetted that can take her on and take her on directly, not just as a candidate but based on issues as well. and i believe the proven record that i have matches up well with her lack of a record or whenever she's had a chance she says she's focused on her personal ambition at the expense of policy, at the expense of lifting people up, at the expense of keeping us secure. i mean, there's a serious problem when you're under investigation with the fbi. and i think that we need to go after her. and mr. trump is not the candidate to do that. he will be flailing away changing his views all the time. and i think we need a consistent conservative to be the conservative party's nominee. >> why are so many conservatives
though aligning themselves with donald trump? >> why is it that a majority of americans when asked on head-to-head polls that donald trump does the worst? there's a reason for that. because in order to get to 50% you have to draw people towards the cause. and you can't draw people towards the cause when you're disparaging large groups of people that you need to count on when you're going forward. look, that's the way you win. you win by getting to 50. you don't win by dividing. i think our nominee has to have a solid conservative record that unites our base but then moves forward with an aggressive policy that says that all will be better if we apply conservative principles. everybody can be lifted up. we can create a more secure america. we can deal with people's angst and their fears. that's the way to win. and, gosh, donald trump is not that guy. he's a great entertainer for sure. and we've spent now ten minutes of having an interesting conversation about him and that's the way it works right now. but at the end of the day people
want to know how is my income going to be lifted up? the student debt that i have on my back, how can it change so that i have a chance to get a job? what are you going to do about dealing with isis? what are you going to do about rebuilding the military? those are the issues in town hall meetings where real people have a chance to ask questions. that's what they ask. in that realm he does not fair well. >> those are excellent questions. we'll have an opportunity to ask those questions, but trump keeps raising questions about ted cruz and his natural born citizenship eligibility to be president of the united states. do you believe that ted cruz is a natural born u.s. citizen? >> i do, but i'm also a little bit more concerned about $1.2 trillion of debt that exists on the back of students that's doubled since the obama administration has expropriated the program. i've offered a proposal to replace it with an income repayment system that's more
flexible and focused on the needs of 21st young people. we've offered detailed plans, ultimately that's what matters a lot more than this he said/she said stuff that's going on right now. >> let's talk about a major issue out there right now in foreign policy right now. it's very disturbing. i know you're passionate on this issue as well. there are reports that isis now has raised, destroyed the oldest christian monostaestary. christians used to have a beautiful community in iraq for hundreds and hundreds of years, but that community is now in danger. as far as bringing in iraqi christians into the united states as refugees, you're open to that, i assume, right? >> i am open to that because christians cannot go to these refugee camps because it's not safe for christians. anywhere in the middle east right now, religious minorities
are -- will either be enslaved, raped or beheaded if they're in isis controlled territories. it is a tragedy that mass is not given now in mosul for the first time in 1,500 years. and i think the question is but for us who? who but the united states will stand on behalf of those that are being killed because of their faith? so, yes, i think there's a distinction between oppressed christians that will die if they stay in place. and i think there should be some special treatment for that. ultimately we need to deal with the refugee crisis in by destroying the caliphate. and i'm the candidate that has laid out the detailed plan to do that. i'm honored to have the support of lindsey graham because he too recognizes that we have to take this fight to isis in the caliphate rather than wait for an attack on our own country.
>> governor, thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you. thank you, wolf. a quick programming note, later tonight 10:00 p.m. eastern on cnn tonight don lemon will be interviewing donald trump. coming up, a new warning from the pentagon, more u.s. troops may have to go to iraq to help prepare for a major offensive against isis. we're also keeping our eye on the weather forecast, a major storm could bury millions of americans under heavy snow and bring travel to a standstill. this is how lenders saw me. in my 20s, i was super irresponsible with credit cards. shopping, going out all the time... i knew it was time for experian. they gave me tools to see what helps and hurts my fico score. so i could finally get serious about managing my credit. now lenders see me for who i really am. someone who would never rack up a lot of debt. and... someone who would never follow a band on tour. get serious about your credit. get experian. go to experian.com and start your credit tracker trial membership today. ♪
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clinton's campaign is disputing that assessment. let's get some more from our justice reporter evan perez. what's the latest, evan, you're hearing? >> well, wolf, what we're talking about are some of the most sensitive programs in the %-p- there's a special access program above classified. according the inspector general for the intelligence community there were dozens of such e-mails that were found on the private server that was owned by hillary clinton. now, the question remains what exactly are these e-mails. we still do not know. they may simply be someone forwarding a newspaper article on programs we have all reported on. for instance, if someone has carried out -- if cia has carried out a drone strike in pakistan, this is a program that is still considered highly classified by the u.s. government even though we've all reported on it. vothey say it has
nothing to do with her sending any sensitive e-mails on the server. and it amounts to what this entire controversy that began back in august, wolf, when the inspector general first referred this to the fbi. we know the fbi is still investigating this issue. and we'll wait to see what they find. >> evan, thanks very much. joining us now in "the situation room," cnn politics executive editor mark preston and senior cnn legal analyst jeffrey toobin. address this question about the top secret plus e-mails that supposedly were found on her private server in an interview with npr. listen to this. let me read it to you. how a "new york times" public article that goes around the world could be in any way viewed as classified or the fact that it would be sent to other people off of the "new york times" site i think is one of the difficulties that people have in understanding what this is all about. having said all of that, how troublesome is this whole e-mail
question the private server to her campaign? >> it's extremely troublesome in the fact it's something we continue to talk about it has been dogging her campaign now for months and months and months. look, if she's able to get through the primary, she's able to beat. >> jeffrey, i want to play for you and our viewers what donald trump had to say about this today. >> i don't know if hillary's going to make it. she may not make it with a vote. she may not make it legally. you notice how positive she is about the president? you know why, right? you know why.
she wants to stay out of the -- that's why. she's a hundred, every single thing the president's wonderful. she never thought the president was wonderful before. >> what do you think, jeffrey. >> the real issue is the fbi going to move against her. is there going to be intent. now, what her campaign has been saying all along is that none of the information on her server was marked classified, had classified markings on it. now, under the rules information can still be classified even though it's not marked classified. and that's what appears to be the conclusion of the people who've looked at these documents after the fact. the fbi almost certainly will not prosecute her if she is simply dealing with information that after the fact turns out to be classified. if there is information that she knew or should have known was
classified and turns -- and she turns out to have sent that around in an unclassified way, then potentially she's in a lot of trouble. but we don't know that that's the case. and there is no evidence that she did use classified information in an improper way. >> mark, in our new cnn/wmur poll in new hampshire, democrats in new hampshire, bernie sanders, senator 60%, hillary clinton 33%, he's doing almost twice as well as hillary clinton is. but then the question is asked, which democratic candidate is least honest? hillary clinton 55%, o'malley 5%, sanders only 2%. not sure 36%. the whole questions of the e-mail, other issue seems to be hurting her even among democratic primary voters, potential ones, in new hampshire. >> it is. and she's handicapped by one of her greatest strengths. one of her greatest strengths she's known by the democratic
party, certainly one of the strongest building blocks. having said that, when you are in the public spotlight and you are a politician, you are going to see your negatives go up and your positives go down. when she was secretary of state if we remember her favorability rate at that point as a person was high, came back as a politician it started to go low. you had the e-mail server constantly in the headlines that is going to chip away at your credibility with democratic voters. that doesn't mean she's still not the front-runner right now for the nomination. in many ways she is, she's just doing poorly in new hampshire and sanders is doing well in iowa. >> all right, guys, standby. we want to let our viewers know about a big event coming up monday night in iowa. only seen here on cnn, exactly one week before the iowa caucuses, bernie sanders, hillary clinton and martin o'malley will go face-to-face in a cnn democratic presidential town hall live from des moines. chris cuomo will moderate. it's a unique opportunity for iowans to ask questions of the three democratic presidential
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the pentagon says the united states and its allies may need to sepd more troops to iraq to help iraqi forces get ready for a major military offensive against isis. but there's also growing concern over the new front isis has opened in libya. let's go to our pentagon correspondent barbara starr. barbara, iraq first. we're talking about, what, more bootds on the ground for the u.s.? >> wolf, it almost certainly will mean just that. the biggest test of the u.s. effort is about to come. there may be up to 10,000 isis fighters keeping an iron grip on mosul, iraq's second largest city. now hundreds of additional u.s. and coalition troops could soon be nearby. >> the reason we need new trainers or additional trainers is because that's really the next step in generating amount of combat power needed to liberate mosul. [ gunfire ] >> reporter: the u.s. and iraqi government calculate 24,000 highly trained iraqi forces are
going to be needed to dislodge the terror group and retake the city. defense secretary ash carter urging other nations to contribute more troops at a paris meeting. >> i will not hesitate to engage and challenge current and prospective members of the coalition as we go forward. >> reporter: but while the battle for mosul looms, isis is working to build a new power center in libya. a senior u.s. defense official tells cnn fighters are increasingly going there when they can't get in to syria and others are traveling there from syria to avoid coalition air strikes. in november the first u.s. air strike against isis in libya killed abu nabil, a senior operative. tonight cnn has learned the u.s. is privately pressing the allies to consider new action against hundreds of isis fighters now in libya even as more continue to stream in. the u.s. is already looking at
more drone operations. >> the threat in libya, the classic failed state is growing by leaps and bounds. in essence what isis has done is they've transferred their operations from syria and iraq into libya. >> reporter: the u.s. doesn't think isis will fully abandon syria, but the worry now isis will make a grab for libya's oil because the organization needs cash. newly released video shows the u.s. bombing the isis money storage site near mosul, the ninth time cash sites have been hit. tens of millions in currency destroyed, the u.s. believes. isis is now moving money around to smaller, more disperse sites. what appears to be a leaked document issued by isis, the group says it's cutting the salary of its fighters in half. the statement reads, no one is excluded. >> if you don't pay the troops,s troops wander off. >> reporter: and in afghanistan
now u.s. troops for the first time have been given the authority to directly go on the offensive and attack isis fighters in afghanistan. now it has been declared a foreign terrorist organization in that country, that paves the way for this additional u.s. action, wolf. >> isis clearly spreading from the middle east to north africa to south asia. this is a very worrisome development, barbara, thank you. isis fighters are also taking a cue from the popularity of online dating websites to recruit western women as brides with powerful propaganda promising romance and an idyllic life. but for hundreds of women who've already traveled to iraq and syria, those dreams are quickly shattered. cnn's brian todd is working this story for us. brian, this is also a very disturbing development. >> very disturbing indeed, wolf. tonight counterterrorism officials are again focused on isis recruiting. what is getting a lot of their attention tonight is the recruitment of young women to be isis brides. the recruiters themselves are often women. and some of them draw on what
they claim are their own personal experiences to lure others. she writes in floury detail of her first meeting of her husband. >> after a few minutes, he looked at me. our eyes catch each other's. i had pal paations faster than the speed of light. >> reporter: this is a blog written by a woman that goes by the handle bird of jana. analysts say this blog is a recruitment tool for isis targeting mostly women in a match.com style. >> where it's about romance, it's about the perfect life, it's about making everything bad in their past go away because now they're going to have the perfect future. [ gunfire ] >> reporter: experts say there's even a catch phrase circulating, jihadis. >> the jihotties refer to men displaying masculinity showing what heroes they are and amazing they are as good muslim men.
>> reporter: it's part of an explosion of online recruiting for isis that's eye catching and inviting. young women are promised free housing, health care, cars. men are promised beautiful brides, true to the faith. and in many cases it seems to be working. it's been estimated that more than 500 western women have left their families to travel to syria and iraq and join isis. part of what entices them is the glossy presentation online, right? >> yeah. it appeals to the demographic, which is people in their teens, early 20s. so it's a presence online, on the platforms that people of that age use instagram, twitter. it's also very well done. it's pictures, not a lot of words. >> reporter: analysts say when the women actually get to isis controlled territory, they're placed in female dorms forr i indoctrinati indoctrination. often without a choice of who they marry and in reality they say housing, water and electricity are scarce. the stories often don't end
well. a u.s. counterterrorism official tells cnn isis' use of foreign fighters as, quote, cannon fodder, suggests many of these marriages will be short lived. it's a badge of honor for a woman to be widowed, but then -- >> in many ways it's hugely disappointing because the women are treated like chattel. they are gifted to the foreign fighters and then recycled when the first husband dies they'll be recycled again. >> western officials are trying to entice young people, especially young women, to return home. one police commissioner in britain says as long as they're not connected to terrorist offenses they can return to their families. but analysts say isis has issued so-called fatwas to prevent young brides from leaving. if they try leaving or someone helps them leave, experts say it's a sin punishable by death. wolf, it's very tough for young women to get out of that situation once they're in it. >> isis is offering these young women another incentive to have children. >> that's right. they're trying to cultivate the next generation of the
caliphate. analysts say they often offer a woman a certain amount of money each month for every child she has. almost like a jihadist welfare system. with the news isis is cutting the salaries of some foreign fighters, clearly they're having trouble keeping some of those promises. >> brian todd reporting for us. worrisome report. thank you so much. coming up, major winter storm bearing down on 50 million people. for many a blizzard of historic proportions we're told. latest forecasts just ahead. and sarah palin hits the campaign trail with donald trump. and she's all fired up. >> are you ready for a commander in chief? you ready for a commander in chief who will let our warriors do their job and go kick isis --! we can help guide your investments through good times and bad. for over 75 years, our clients have relied on us to bring our best thinking to their investments
50 million americans are bracing for snow as odds are growing it will hit the mid atlantic states starts friday and the dc area could be slammeslammed slammed, by a blizzard of historic propotions. >> unfortunately, wolf, whether records in d.c. go back to 1884 and that 132-period there are three storms that dropped 18 inches or more. if this doesn't get in the top three it could surpass it. blizzard watch in yellow. look at the area of concern in blue. they will change to warnings in the next couple of hours. now, we have a precursor event. a predusting on the radar to let you know old man winter is serious, prepare and get ready.
the storm is moving out of colorado. until it forms, we won't know the track but computer models have been consistent like never season before. icing ships up in arkansas, tennessee, missouri, significant ice and set up across the commonwealth of kentucky, maybe one-third to half an inch in the carolinas but one to two feet across virginia and the winds picking up gusting to 50, 55, 60 miles per hour, wolf. we could easily see some models want to drop 32 inches in the d.c. area. 65 million americans under this concern. we could see over a million lose power for several days. this is serious. >> very serious, indeed. we'll stay on top. thank you. coming up, republican front runner donald trump hits the campaign trail with sarah pal , palin,? >> how about the rest of us, right wing bitter clinging proud clinger or our guns and
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is he taking the strategy from the 2008 obama playbook. snow way out. 50 million americans in the path of a major storm that could bring more than two feet of snow to parts of the east coast. will washington be buried by a record-breaking blizzard? we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're "the situation room." >> this is cnn breaking news. >> and let's get to the breaking news in new hampshire our just released cnn poll of people who plan to vote in the state's republican primary shows donald trump with a commanding lead. he has 34%, 20 points ahead of his closest rival who is now senator ted cruz. senator marco rubio second to trump in the poll last month has fallen to a third place tie with jeb bush who is on the rise. we're also following the race
for the white house in the new tea party contender sarah palin. she was the vice presidential nominee knee and she's moving. she's moving with donald trump that's another blow to ted cruz who is in a very tight race with donald trump in iowa. we're also following what forecasters say could be a man store winter storm impacting 50 million people along the u.s. east coast with the washington d.c. area in the cross hairs of the potential lly historic blizzard. some areas could see two feet of snow. we're covering all of that, a lot more this hour with our guests including the national spokesman for senator ted cruz and expert analysts are standing by right now. let's begin in tulsa, oklahoma where sarah palin crusaded for donald trump today before an audience of christian conservatives. our senior white house correspondent jim acosta is out there tonight this is familiar
territory for sarah palin. >> reporter: that's right, wolf. and going rogue never felt so good. donald trump and sarah palin on the campaign trail with less than two weeks to go to the iowa caucuses and while they may not be future running mates, palin support may be the boost trump needs to stay on top of this race. it's a match made in tea party heaven, donald trump and sarah palin dishing out the conservative red meat and wooing evangelical voters. and trump tried out a new line of attack not on his fellow republicans but on the democrats. >> he's beating hillary clinton. can you believe this? this guy is a whack job. he's a whacko beating hillary clinton. oh, boy, i really want to run against her but i would really love to run against bernie sanders, too. do you notice how positive she is about the president. you know why, right?
you know why? because she wants to stay out of the clink, that's why. >> palin praised trump as the only conservative that can stand up to washington. >> our candidate is ballsy enough to get out there and put these issues on the table. >> reporter: palin's jaw-dropping endorsement lit up the 21 s century campaigning. >> go kick isis ass. >> reporter: lady and the trump screamed "the new york post" and palin is already full of surprises. despite a campaign announcement that said she would be at trump eastside on this day, she was a no-show at his morning event where the real estate tycoon torn to ted cruz' problem. >> ted has a problem. how can you have -- let's say you have him as a candidate and he's running and you lose in court, you don't have a candidate. >> reporter: trump holds a commanding lead by double
digitis and way out in front in a cnn poll in new hampshire. cruz a distant second. >> if you don't vote, we're just wasting time. >> reporter: here in oklahoma with palin at his side, trump declined to go after cruz who was once a favorite of the former alaska governor. and the big question in all of this is whether this palin endorsement will actually translate into votes. many republicans used to think it was a mistake for john mccain to choose sarah palin as his running mate in 2008 but in this outsider campaign cording a palin endorsement is a no-brainer and she's squarely in donald trump's corner right now. >> jim acosta, thank you. sarah palin's endorsement comes at iowa republican governor is open recalling for cruz' defeat. we're in new hampshire tonight. any response from the cruz camp to sarah palin's endorsement of donald trump today? any new response? >> reporter: well, the cruz
campaign, wolf, continues to try their best to brush this endorsement aside even though there is no doubt after all it does sting for his campaign. already today you really see the focus of the political focus on sarah palin and donald trump so already this endorsement, the two of them on the campaign trial today instilling a lot of attention, a lot of energy away from ted cruz, so cruz today here in new hampshire for his part really trying to redirect some of the criticism and scrutiny on him right now specifically over his opposition to ethanol mandates, a big issue in iowa and a big issue donald trump is drilling down on. cruz asked about this in new hampshire by a voter. here is how he responded. >> donald trump promised to protect the ethanol mandate and expand it, to have the federal government do more picking winners and losers by mandating
ethanol be a larger part. >> reporter: and cruz had to take some time off the campaign trail today to tend to his day job back in washington. he attended a senate vote and returning here to new hampshire tonight but this is the exact dooef vags that's n deviation for his campaign when he needs to nail down the message and recapture momentum he's lost. >> sunlen serfaty joining us. rick tyler, thanks for joining us. how big of a blow was sarah palin's endorsement of donald trump to your campaign? >> well, look, we would have loved to have sarah palin's endorsement. she's a great conservative but, you know, donald trump is not going to be able to hide behind sarah palin's conservative m. it didn't change anything we're doing in iowa. we have knocked on one less door.
we got 12,000 volunteers in iowa working hard and i'll tell you what else happened yesterday. we raised over $700,000 yesterday that put us over the $50 million mark for this campaign. this campaign raised $50 million so we are built to last and ready to go. >> did senator cruz actively try to get sarah palin support? >> i'm not going to talk about that, wolf. we talked to a lot of people. we had a goal of getting 10 million conservatives behind, 10 million conservatives behind us and missed by one. >> he tweeted and i'll read the tweet from senator cruz. i love sarah palin, without her support i wouldn't be in the senate regardless of what she does in 2016 i will always be a big fan. he tweeted that yesterday. does that still stand? >> absolutely. we hope to earn senator, governor palin's support as we see the conservatives, we hope she'll join us on the campaign trail with other conservatives and defeat hillary clinton in
the white house. >> in 2013 the iowa republican governor called a candidate for the senate senator cruz a bright young guy. i want to play, though, something he had to say about your candidate yesterday. >> sure. >> i believe that would be a big mistake for iowa to support him, and i know he's ahead in the polls but the only poll that counts is the one they take on caucus night and i think it could change between now and then. >> all right. your reaction? >> well, it's well-known that governor branstad's son works in the ethanol industry. he failed in that. now the governor seems to want to try to derail the campaign, as well, and he will also fail but look, governor -- ted cruz is proethanol, not propick winners and losers corporate welfare and that's what donald
trump did when he said he wanted to expand the mandate. he's saying i want consumers to pay more for gasoline and corn products and make deals in washington. washington doesn't need a deal maker but a conservative like ted cruz to level the playing field so ethanol can compete. so we're for all of the above. >> in recent days, as you know, donald trump has really gone after your candidate senator cruz calling him, what, a nasty guy. a total hypocrite and an interview just published in the new york times, former senator bob doll said ted cruz would be even worse for the republican party than donald trump. were he to win the nomination, doll says it would be a disaster for republicans. this kind of criticism, how much does it hurt ted cruz? >> well, senator doll might want to call his office. the establishment, if you haven't noticed is consolidating
around donald trump. you can see that in your poll in new hampshire. the establishment picked donald trump. why? because the establishment in washington, the deal makers know they donald trump will make a deal. he'll play ball with them. he'll keep them all in power. he'll keep the gravy train rolling. that's what is going on now and your poll proves it. >> bob doll said i don't know how he's going to deal with congress referring to senator cruz. nobody likes him. if he's elected president, you got to make deals. that's the way washington works, right? >> you make deals with the american people. you say what does the american people want to do and the american people put pressure on washington. listen, when senators and congressmen know that there have to be beholding to the voters and not to lobby some, they will do what the voters want to do because if they don't, they know they have to come back and get voted out of office. the presidency has power to communicate with the american people and the american people will drive the congress to do what it wants. by the way, senator cruz is the
most one of the most well-liked candidates in america. and the gallop poll proves that and we have other polls to prove it. donald trump is one of the most disliked politics in america. >> rick tyler for the cruz for president campaign, rick, thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks, wolf. just ahead, dire warnings about a blizzard that could impact on the east coast. millions of people may lose power due to record-breaking snow and more from sarah palin stumping from donald trump. which voters are most likely to be won over for the billionaire businessman? >> they are telling us we need to just chill and i say they are stomping on our neck and they are telling us just chill? no, we won't chill. in fact, it's time to drill, baby, drill down on what's going on and hold them accountable.
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sarah palin is throwing her conservative clout behind donald trump campaigning for the front runner before an audience of evangelical christians today at oral roberts university in tulsa, oklahoma. >> donald trump, he's talked about the issues that matter, the issues that you and i talk about and are concerned about whereas there are some others who no, instead of talk about the tough issues, they wear political correctness like a suicide vest. only one candidate has that proven record of success where he masters the art of the deal. he is beholden to no one but we the people. he's beholden only to doing the
right thing and he is perfectly positioned to make america great again. are you ready for that, oklahoma? are you ready to see the change? [ cheers ] >> like i said yesterday in iowa, no more footing around. one year from today former president barack obama -- [ cheers ] >> former. he's going to be packing up the self- selfie sticks and packing up the tell prompters and the greek columns and all that hope change stuff and he's going to head back to chicago where he can look for some community to organize again. but from there, he'll finally be able to also look up and when he
looks up over his head he's going to see that shining towering trump tower because yes, barack, trump built that and that says a lot about our next candidate who will be the next president of the united states of america, donald j. trump. god bless you, oklahoma. god bless you united states of america. >> let's get more. joining us our chief political analyst gloria borger and senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin and ron brownstein the editorial director and commentator anna navarro, a good friend of marco rubio, supporter of jeb bush. gloria, your reaction to the partnership, does the trump palin bring more energy to the canada see? >> it works for both of them.
she's a player again on the political stage. he hasn't been that for awhile and donald trump gets somebody with energy, enthusiasm, somebody who has credentials with conservatives and cruz has been attacking him on his conservatives and jeb bush is attacking him and evangelical voters, you know, donald trump went to liberty university to try and talk to evangelicals, and i think she speaks the language better than he does. so i think it works for both of them, whether they can get out the voters in the iowa caucuses remains to be seen. >> ron brownstein, what do you think? >> well, first of all, it's worth it just to see, just having an execute for tina fey to dust off her sarah palin impression. sarah palin's star has dimmed. she's not as influential as she once was but a very dynamic figure and a junk tour of the
race that could prove very important. she is someone who has appeal to the intersection of blue kcolla voters and e vvangelicals and potentially cutting into the advantage that ted cruz has assumed would carry him not only in iowa but in the south and border states like oklahoma. in many states, evangelical voters without a college degree out single largest block of republican voters and if sarah palin can help among the voters, the south can have more than what many expect. >> donald trump is way ahead in the brand-new cnn poll just released among republican voters in new hampshire. take a look with three weeks to go, does trump lockdown? he's got 34%, cruz 14 and bush 10 and rubio 10%. >> the polls haven't moved much
in the last several months. you know, the second tier candidates have been bouncing around between 5 and 11% mostly within the margin of errors of these polls but it's been basically a very stable race in new hampshire. the one thing we don't know is that new hampshire are affected of the iowa caucus and we don't know how that's going to turn out. there has been little change. >> >> anna what strikes you? >> a couple things. 31% of republican voters decided so there is still a lot of room a and, we saw chris christie and
you're going to see folks in the establishment leaving it in the field and out there, you know, between now and the primary race there. i think what you're doing to see after new hampshire is a unifying of that main stream republican lane. i think we're going to all demand there be one candidate. >> jeffrey, go ahead. >> just use the phrase jeb bush pulling ahead. there is nothing in the poll of jeb bush -- >> he is -- you know where he was before this? >> he is ahead of where he was. >> pulling ahead means being better than where you were before. >> 10% as opposed to 5%? >> yes, jeff, when you have 13 people running, 10% versus 5% means a lot. >> who wins that establishment out of new hampshire is going to mean a lot. >> that's right. also, one other thing to look at in this poll is ted cruz because his favorable ratings are now
55%, and that's very high and so that bodes well for him going forward in new hampshire. you know, new hampshire wasn't supported to be his state. if he does well in iowa and he's got a 55% positive rating in new hampshire and people haven't made up their minds yet, a majority, that's good news for ted cruz. >> ron brownstein, you study these numbers closely, what do you think? >> i think the big question is whether what anna describes happens, whether the senate right establishment can consolidate. the story of this poll as i largely agree with jeffrey is the muddle in the middle continues and you have these four candidates, christie, kasich, bush and rubio that are all dividing that vote and it may not be that new hampshire gives one of them a decisive enough advantage that the others feel compelled to step aside and allow that consolation. whether anything happens in iowa that advances that consolidation in new hampshire and may or may not.
rubio seems to be best positioned to get a boost out of iowa but numbers are pretty modest. it's possible that while trump and cruz move forward with a lot of momentum out of the first two states, the establishment right lane may remain for fragmented than many are hoping. >> here is the difference between kasich, christie, rubio and jeb. kasich and christie have all their eggs in the new hampshire basket. not much activity. not much of anything going on in south carolina. haven't invested the time or the resources there. the only way they can make a blip in south carolina is if they leave new hampshire with the momentum of having won that establishment lane. i would say that jeb and rubio are in a different position. they do have ground troops and they do have an effort going on in south carolina. they can live to fight another day there. >> gloria, former senator bob doll came out in an interview describing his words a loss for the republican party, should
senator cruz win? he said cruz would be worse for the republicans than trump. your reaction? >> i'll not surprised he's saying that. i've been talking to a lot of so-called establishment republicans today and yesterday, and they are singing the same song. they don't like ted cruz, first of all. doll doesn't like ted cruz but they are saying they would suffer greater losses in their senate races than they would with trump at the top of the ticket. they may be adjusting themselves to a new reality here but they believe that trump would be more willing to govern than cruz. they just don't like him. so it didn't surprise me that doll said it. of course, doll said it on the record and everybody else is sort of whispering in our ears and saying the same thing but not on the record. >> we're going to take a quick break and take a closer look at what is happening on the democratic side. bernie sanders, hillary clinton
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jeff zeleny is standing by with more. this is a nail biter i take it over there, jeff. >> reporter: it certainly is, wolf. senator sanders is giving hillary clinton more than a run for her money. she's running scared in new hampshire with the new poll and in iowa it's neck and neck. it's unclear if bernie sanders is able to repeat that performance in 2008 from barack obama. >> thank you, iowa. >> reporter: bernie sanders is no barack obama or is he? >> in 2008, barack obama ran one of the great campaigns in the history for the country. he rewrote the caucus rule book right here in iowa. unbelievable. >> reporter: in the state that launched the president's path to the white house. >> they said this day would never come. >> reporter: sanders is opening that old obama magic rubs off. >> i'm not saying we can replicate that but i think any
objective look at our can payme campaign and energy and excitement, compare that to secretary clinton's campaign. >> reporter: sanders is riding a wave of momentum with a lead over clinton in a new cnn poll in new hampshire. today bill clinton urged voters to take another look. >> we're on a home field disadvantage here. but but the real issue is who can win the election? who is prepared to do the job? who can make real change? >> reporter: and secretary clinton fought back in a new tv ad. >> the person who lives here has to solve problems as big as the world and as small as your kitchen table. >> reporter: but sanders is trying to repeat ocbama's feat. >> i can't do it by myself. that's why we're here today
because in our history, change always happened from the bottom up. >> reporter: it's an open question whether sanders a 74-year-old democratic socialist can replicate obama's massive organization. >> i think we got a real shot to win here, and i'm feeling really, really good. >> reporter: a record set 239,000 people took part in fact 2008 caucuses. party officials believe turnout will be far lower because sanders hasn't spent the year building a robust team. to gin up excitement, sanders is going hard after the value of clinton's experience. >> he was secretary of state for four years. that gives you a lot of experience. >> dick cheney had a lot of experience, god help us all. >> reporter: now secretary clinton took deep exception to that comment there and told npr in an interview she spent eight years fighting against dick cheney in the senate and four years as secretary of state cleaning up his mess.
it's a sign the race is getting negative and intense and in some situations far nastier than that. the question is how will democrats react to this? senator sanders is not being as positive as early on in the campaign. wolf? >> jeff zeleny in iowa for us. thanks, jeff, very much. jeffrey toobin, your thoughts can bernie sanders show voters hillary clinton isn't invincible? >> i think there is no doubt. these -- the iowa race is very close and he's clearly ahead in new hampshire. where he goes from there is less clear but i mean, this is a real race. bernie sanders has plenty of money. every time hillary clinton attacks him, he gets more money. the clinton campaign has not really found a line of attack against him that seems to work very well, and he's only gone up in the polls. that doesn't mean he'll be the nominee but a good six, four or five weeks for bernie sanders, that's for sure. >> you know, gloria, hillary clinton's spokesman said on cnn
today bernie sanders has a lot of empty solutions, his words. is that the strategy right now to go after bernie sanders for having quote empty solutions. >> that's a familiar ring to it, doesn't it, wolf. in 2008 and hillary clinton and barack obama and they are saying in the clinton campaign is that if you look at bernie sanders' platitud platitudes, that's fine. he's not going to get anything done in the congress. he can't get anything passed. he's completely unrealistic for example about wanting to undo obama care. he's unrealistic and it won't work. i have to say one other thing, i remember interviewing bernie sanders in november when you tried to get him to talk about hillary clinton and he wouldn't other than in what he called a contrast when asked a question. now you see him on the campaign trail and he's raising the issue of her experience, cam pairing
her to dick cheney. this is a very, very different race from the way it started. >> you know, ron brownstein let's talk about the new cnn poll chipping away hillary clinton's dominance. look at the matchups. this would be sanders decisively beating you can see there the major republican candidates. hillary clinton on the other hand much, much closer in the hypothetical general matchups for example against rubio 44 for hillary clinton, 43 for clinic clean against kasich and 43 for kasich. very close. she does much better against cruz and trump. 47-41 beats cruz and 38-39 beats trump. it shows bernie sanders in the general matchups does better than hillary clinton. >> right, and i think we talked before i guess i'm skeptical because the choice isn't framed for voters.
very few voters understand what bernie sanders is proposing and how much it would cost. so that choice, i think, is still somewhat though re somewh. she has issues to overcome. her best asset is the one they are talking about competence ready to do the job and there is an inspiration gap she faced in 2008 and facing very much again in 2016. the big fire wall that does not yet seem to have been breached, though, when you look at the polling both a poll, she's polling around 70%. that doesn't matter in iowa and new hampshire but as you move forward, bernie sanders will have to crack that or it simply does not add up. >> do you believe, anna, bernie sanders would do better against a republican presidential candidate than hillary clinton? >> look, he might. i think hillary clinton has a lot of problems now. she's got the problem of being hillary clinton the more that
voters learn about her and see her and they know her a lot the less they seem to like her. she also has a significant problem with the fbi investigation that is not going away, in fact, it's getting mir ki -- mirkier. i'm old enough to remember when everybody used to say there was no way latinos would vote for barack obama over hillary clinton because bill clinton was so popular, because he was african american. i'm hearing the same thing now when it comes to bernie sanders and i will say, you know, be careful with your predictions because i think a lot of energy that is astounding -- >> everybody stand by. everybody stand by because our analysis will continue. tomorrow the democratic presidential debate, hillary clinton will my guest right here "the situation room" tomorrow 5:00 p.m. eastern. >> just ahead, a monster storm to impact 50 million people along the east coast and
winds. our meteorologist tom is in the forecast center. >> wolf, we have better confidence in the heavy snow than we do up toward new jersey or new york city. so again, 65 million americans, we could see over a million lose power. here are the top three, 1899 20 and the in this casstorm in '22. blizzard watch will change to a warning and blue winter storm watch, all of these states will see warnings. it's ice, significant icing that will start as the storm moves out of colorado and dives to the south. so tomorrow, arkansas, southern missouri, western tennessee, icing. then we'll start to see the ice flow up to the entire commonwealth of kentucky. a third to a half inch of ice coating the trees from charlotte to raleigh in north carolina. winds kick in.
gusts 20 -- no, that's knnothin 50, 65 with the heavy snow that will down the branchs and the power lines and of course, with that over a million could lose power and that may be conservative. the computer models in such good agreement continue to produce a one, two-foot snow but again, it cuts off dramatically when you get up to new york city. some models want to drop maybe eight to 12 inches. others want to give it two to three. it will take a few more days to define and refine the forecast to see what will happen next and that large metropolis. d.c. get ready, pack a bag, more than a i can weekend bag. preparations for a potentially historic blizzard on the way. rene marsh has an up close look. officials are taking this extremely seriously. >> reporter: that's right, wolf.
you can see the flurries already starting here in d.c. but not just here in washington d.c. it's cities up and down the east coast. they are prepping with plows, snow flows, mountains and mountains of salt like you see behind me as the count town begins for what could be a major storm that brings several cities to a standstill. 50 million people in the bulls eye of a potentially dangerous snowstorm. cities up and down the east coast have equipment on stand by ready for what could be the season's first massive dig out. >> insulation to prevent frozen pipes. >> when you're dealing with a weather event of this magnitude, you want to make sure you have all the available resources that can be deployed. >> reporter: in the nation's capital, people aren't taking any chances, shovels and salt are selling fast. >> we didn't own a shovel since we moved here. thought we better get one. >> reporter: washington d.c.'s
mayor is worried about potential power outages. >> if this is a blizzard and we have sustained winds and people lose power and it's cold over a sustained period of time, that would be my biggest concern. >> reporter: d.c.'s forecast shows some of the heaviest snowfall about two feet. the city has equipped some 2,000 volunteers with shovels to clear walkways and more than 800 people on snow teams to clear roads. the area's worst snowfall on record 1922, but most recently in february of 2010 dubbed snowmageddon when two feet of snow blanketed parts of the northeast. blizzard conditions including high winds and low visibility could have a major impact on air travel up and down the east coast from boston to virginia, and airlines are already allowing passengers to change flight plans for free. all right. at this point, we're not seeing
a lot of cancellations as it relates to the airlines, but that could all change. they are waiting to look at those models. once they have a more accurate read, you can expect those precancellations because what they don't want is their aircraft or passengers getting stuck, wolf. >> thank you, much more news right after this. always be clea. but at t. rowe price, we can help guide your retirement savings. for over 75 years, investors have relied on our disciplined approach to find long term value. so wherever your retirement journey takes you, we can help you reach your goals. call a t. rowe price retirement specialist or your advisor ...to see how we can help make the most of your retirement savings. t. rowe price. invest with confidence.
injured three volunteers. gloria is joining me. you sat down with them before this happened? >> that's right. i sat down with them monday night before the accident to talk about the state of the campaign, among other things, and i asked candy carson what she didn't anticipate before the campaign began. >> first of all, i didn't see the campaign coming. >> not at all? >> well, no. i was hoping and praying that, you know, that i would get my husband back and that i would have an opportunity to have dinner with him, just the two of us. >> you have gone in this campaign from being the leading republican candidate way up in the polls to now 6% nationally. what happened? >> well, i think a lot of things happened. paris happened and the san bernardino happened. plus, you have, i think, an almost unprecedented attack on
my character. but i have fought it by simply trying to get out in front of as many people as i can. when people actually hear me talk, they know that i know plenty about foreign policy. >> do you think, compared to the other opponents, say, on that debate stage with you, that you are as well prepared in foreign policy? >> yes. absolutely. i would love to get into some in-depth discussions with them. i'm very willing and able to do that. >> in iowa in particular, evangelicals particularly play a huge role. do you consider donald trump to be a huge evangelical? >> i never like to comment on somebody's religion. >> but do you think he's having a campaign conversion here? >> well, you know, he does some things that i think evangelicals identify with. you know, he tends to talk about things that are right versus
wrong. and i'm sure there are some who may be a little skeptical about some of the depth of his evangelical conversion, but they like the fact that he paints things in a way that is very clear. >> but how do you counter that? >> well, i suspect that you may be a little surprised on the day after the iowa caucus. >> why is that? >> because, you know, i've been there a lot in the last couple of weeks. every venue, standing room only. >> when you look at donald trump, what do you see? >> he's the donald. he's a wonderful entrepreneur. but when i think of presidential candidates and who's most -- well, who's had the best experiences to prepare them for that, he's had more 2:00 and 3:00 a.m. calls where he's had to make live and death decisions after surgery.
>> how does that qualify you to be president? that's the requequestion. >> because when you're operating on a child, a patient, it's not always what it looks like. it can be complicated. you have to be very calm. that's what a lot of people say, he's not very animated, so on and so forth. if you're operating on some one 10, 15 hours at a time, you've got to make these very minute incisions. that's the kind of person you want to have their finger on the button. >> but your nature, comparing you to donald trump, right, hot and cool and -- how does that play in politics? >> well -- >> pushing that button, someone saying, we're going to get those guys. oops. >> that says it all. the fact of the matter is, solving problems requires calm,
steady intellect. >> i want to show you guys something to change the topic totally from something serious that was on "saturday night live" recently. did you guys watch this? >> no. >> sorry. let's go to dr. carson. >> well, that question makes me furious, wolf. i might go ham up in here right now. of course i can be tough. >> you know, they are about making fun, so, they are going to try to make fun. >> you know, i knew i had arrived is last year when they did four segments on me on "saturday night live." >> but they all get it, though. trump gets it. >> not four segments on one program. they were just ecstatic. we finally got him. and they keep writing my obituary and then i turn around and i'm still there. >> and i just have to end with you, which is, you're a
musician. ♪ >> the piano. yeah. >> and that relaxes you? >> very much so. >> every once in a while, we play together. >> you do? you play, too? what do you play together? >> i sometimes play the bass part. i'm not that good but she's very good. so -- >> so she's got the gifted hand? >> she's got the gifted hands. i just add a little something here and there. >> nice piece, gloria. are trump and cruz cutting in to his evangelical support, which is significant? >> they are. it is significant. i was surprised he didn't take him on on that issue. he says he doesn't like to talk about anyone's religion but one of the reasons carson is going down in the polls is that cruz is really getting his evangelical support and getting a second look. >> certainly is.
thanks very much, gloria borger, reporting for us. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer. tweet me @cnnsitroom. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. next, breaking news. donald trump, new polls showing him beating ted cruz 20 points in a major state. plus, donald trump fighting for every vote in iowa. if he wins it there, is it smooth sailing to the nomination? let's go "outfront." good evening to all of you. i'm erin burnett "outfront" tonight. we begin with donald trump in the lead. donald trump is a whopping 20 points ahead of his nearest rival ted cruz in the state of