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word about the election in iowa last night. the caucuses. the state party hasn't released final results. let's listen to what the senator has to say. >> we thank you so much. >> we love you, bernie! >> we love you, too. you heard me say a million times. let me say to you here at 5:00 in the morning. we're in this together. in this sense, no president can do it alone. that is what the political revolution is about. millions of people standing up and demanding you have a government that represents all of us and not just wealthy campaign contributors. i just want to thank you all. we have a lot of work. we have a rally tomorrow in the afternoon. it's today.
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that's right. little bit later today. we will be running all over the state. i look forward to next tuesday having great victory in new hampshire. thank you all so much. >> so senator sanders. here we are in the wee morning hours in new hampshire. bow, new hampshire. already a crowd for bernie. you can hear them chanting his name. we were just with the senator when he landed at the airport. >> has he slept? >> he said he gotten a little bit of sleep, obviously. this was a night to stay awake. the results are not in yet. hillary clinton is declaring victory. this gets complicated. especially on the democratic side because of how they calculate the delegates. they are waiting, the state party's going to decide. not the state government is often the case in the primaries. that is bernie sanders speaking to the crowd.
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just got off the plane. we will give you an interview we did with him at the airport in a bit. let's welcome you. it is already frantic and we're still not even sun up at the water works cafe in manchester, new hampshire. breaking news about the election last night. hillary clinton's campaign declaring victory in the iowa caucuses. historically close. big numbers turn out. one precinct has yet to finalize results. cnn has not yet called the race. why? because the margin between clinton and senator sanders is just like 4/10th of 1%. >> the picture is clearer on the republican side where senator ted cruz dealt a blow to donald trump. evangelical voters propelling cruz to the top spot. donald trump falling short of polls and expectations there. senator marco rubio finishing a
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strong third behind trump. we will speak with three of the candidates this morning. we will have bernie sanders, ted cruz and john kasich. let's start coverage with brianna keilar. she is live in des moines with all of the news in the democratic race. brianna. >> reporter: i thought for sure that you guys would be exactly where the story is, but here i am where this is still not resolved. you said it, no definitive claim of victory on the part of the sanders campaign, but not so much for hillary clinton's campaign. her director says hillary clinton won the caucus. there is no uncertainly and secretary clinton won the most delegates. there is no outstanding information that could change the results and no way that senator sanders can overcome secretary clinton's advantage. there is still outstanding information in the precinct.
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the democratic party say the results are the closest in iowa democratic caucus history. hillary clinton has been awarded 699.57 state delegate equivalents. bernie sanders awarded 695.45 state delegate equivalents. des moines 42 is worth 2.28 state delegates. we will await that information there. looking at some of the entrance poll information that i think is telling not just in iowa, but beyond. people were asked who do you find more honest and trustworthy. 83% said bernie sanders. only 10% said hillary clinton. a big vulnerability for her there. and the difference between hillary clinton and bernie sanders and whether they are
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getting new people to the polls. for first time goers, 59% went for sanders. 37% for clinton. guys. >> brianna, thanks. a lot of this obviously still in motion. a lot of controversy. the question of whether or not all of the precincts in iowa were properly chaired. whether they were run the same way. there is a bit of intrigue there. we met up with senator sanders. he just got off the plane. it was a sight. all of the private jets landing. marco rubio had come through. hillary clinton had come through. >> they were high tailing it out of iowa. >> momentum is everything. we caught up with senator sanders as he hit the tarmac. he doesn't have information about the race yet. he had been on the plane where he couldn't get the information. this is what he had to say. >> what is the party telling you right now? we know they were releasing some
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information. nothing finally. there seems to be some flux about which delegates and votes outstanding. >> chris, you probably know more than i do. we just got off the plane. we will be in contact with the party tomorrow. bottom line, we started our campaign 40 points or 50 points behind. whether we lose by a fraction of a point or whatever, we are proud of the campaign. i think the significance is that for folks who did not think bernie sanders could win and we could compete against hillary clinton, i hope that thought is now gone. we're going fight really hard in new hampshire and we are going to nevada and south carolina. we look forward to doing well around the country. >> do you take this as a victory regardless of the margin? >> absolutely. you are talking about one way or the other. a couple of delegates. we need 2,300 delegates to win this thing. we lost by two.
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maybe we lost by one. maybe we lost by zero. whatever it may be. what this shows is that this campaign has started in a very forceful way. starting way back and coming to a virtual tie and we are going to fight here in new hampshire. i look forward to winning here and doing well around the rest of the country. >> two things are clear in the exit polls. senator, the expectation this is a national security election because of recent events and state of affairs. it seems the idea of economics and what the security for the future is economically and as a country seems to loom large. >> national security is always a major issue when dealing with barlcraig barlobarlow barbaric like isis. and what i found in iowa and not
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just from democrats, but conservatives and republicans, there is profound anger in the campaign finance system which allows billionaires to file for elections. >> what does it mean for you as voters get younger and income more into the middle class, your numbers got bigger and bigger in the preliminary information. >> number one, in terms of working class people who are gravitating to our campaign. that is what the campaign is about. asking middle class people to stand up for our rights. help us take on the billionaire class whose greed is doing so much. second of all, in the last election, the mid term election, 80% of people did not vote. i am very proud that we're bringing a lot of young people all over this country into the political process and we are revitalizing american democracy. if we are changing america, that is what we have to do. >> what is your message to older voters who did not come out for
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you in the same numbers? >> that's true. my message is check my record. you will find that there is no united state senator who has been stronger on senior issues. not only on defending social security, but on the need to expand social security benefits. people can't make it on $12,000 a year social security. second of all, very few, if any members of the senate have been stronger on the need to take on the pharmaceutical industry and end this disgrace of americans paying by far the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. >> areas of minorities are not a source of strength for you compared to senator clinton. what is there? >> i have not looked at the results. from iowa, and what i saw, we actually did pretty well. we lost, but that gap is growing slimmer and slimmer between the secretary and myself. i think you will find as we get
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to south carolina and other states, when the african-american community and latino community looks at our record and agenda, we will get more and more support. >> what is it like to be there with your family and have this moment? >> the night was a thrilling night. one of the important political nights of my life. we feel good. >> senator, good luck going forward. thank you very much. >> you see sanders off the tarmac and making the case directly to camera. he is very locked in. right to a rally. that's what we have on that side. they haven't declared a winner from the iowa state party. it is a complicated process. a bit of controversy. they are waiting for all of the votes to come in. cnn has not called the race. >> these candidates are tireless. you see them skipping sleep. they are energized. yesterday was historic on a couple levels. >> absolutely. we don't know yet what the
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participation rates will wind up being. >> record-breaking. >> how much so? a lot of information coming in. join us for the ride as we figure it all out. let's flip the card. republican race. senator ted cruz pulling off an upset against donald trump in iowa. marco rubio coming in a strong third. they said we didn't know what that may mean. now we do. this race dramatically heading into new hampshire just one week from today. cnn's senior white house correspondent jim acosta live in manchester with the gop field. what a night, my friend. >> reporter: absolutely, chris. a big night for marco rubio. in terms of disappointments, this is huge for donald trump. he was leading in the polls heading into the iowa caucuses. as it turns out, trump did not get the swarms of followers to caucus sites and register support. as for cruz, he had impressive
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organization on his side and it delivered. >> tonight is a victory for courageous conservatives across iowa and all across this great nation. >> we finished second and i want to tell you something. i'm just honored. i'm really honored. >> tonight here in iowa, the people of this great state sent a clear message. after seven years of barack obama, we are not waiting any longer to take our country back. >> reporter: so why did donald trump seem to lose steam at the end? if you look at our polling, the last-minute undecided voters opted for cruz and rubio. now this question is in new hampshire, whether the strong third place finish for rubio, whether that gives him momentum in new hampshire. trump is proving iowa was a
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fluke. he was riding high in the polls in iowa. now he looks beatable. >> thank you, jim. let's bring in our panel. author of "how's your faith, david gregory." and the house of representatives peter sellers and author of "too dumb to fail" matt lewis. great to have you here with us in new hampshire. david, what are your take aways from last night? >> such an exciting morning if you love politics. a reminder that elections belong to the voters. that is true. we now have a resurgence into new hampshire. new hampshire has a way of resetting the race as well. i think to your great interview, chris, bernie sanders effectively ties. whatever the final points are, effectively ties in iowa.
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strong showing for him. this is a shot across the bow for the clinton team. they needed iowa. she lost there in 2008. she got all of the barack obama talent on her side to make sure it didn't happen again. it basically happened again. you have to give bernie sanders his due. he made a strong argument for economic unfairness. he has made a movement in the democratic party. he comes into an area of strength in new hampshire. >> let's try to get david's mike working properly. you have so much power. >> you don't need a mike. >> what you see in politics is the conflict brings clarity. they had their vote in iowa. they know who voted and how many and on what basis. this idea of economic security and seeing age and income matter so much, especially on the democratic side, what does that mean? >> it means that hillary clinton
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will have to retool her message slightly as we go through the process. she doesn't have to abandon ship. we see the press acknowledge in the democratic party is one of inequity and fundamental unfairness. bernie sanders goes to the top 1%. that resonates to voters young and old in iowa. with the high turnout, to david's point, hillary clinton still did extremely well. she needed a victory. whether or not it is a victory by a slight margin or one or two delegates. she could not take a loss in iowa. her campaign is recognizing that and saying we won and let's go to new hampshire. let's get it closer. >> not getting any closer than this, bakari. >> you can't get any closer than this. you are right. the demographics do change. i was talking to david. the fact of the matter is, iowa and new hampshire are where
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bernie sanders does well because they are white liberals. as we move forward, the demographics are browner and more reflective of the democratic party. >> obviously hillary is declaring victory. we have not heard from the chair yet. you heard two different opinions here. is this really a win for bernie sanders because he is so close or hillary clinton? >> i will go with bernie sanders. what bernie needed wasn't just delegates, but momentum. you can make an argument that the controversy surrounding the closeness of the race fuels bernie sanders more. we saw people. you were at his airplane. that may not have happened otherwise. the fact this race is close in a way gives bernie sanders more excitement and energy and the perception could be it was even stolen from him or whatever bernie can do. >> look at you fuelling the intrigue. >> that is good for bernie. >> nobody is alleging any theft.
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welcome back to "new day." we are here at the water works cafe in manchester, new hampshire. talking about the record breaker of last night. let's bring back in david gregory and bakari sellers.
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we just talked about the democratic side. let's talk about the gop, david. ted cruz won. what else? >> ted cruz needs to get his due. he put it all on the line in iowa. he ran with a great organization. a strong retail campaign. he courted evangelical voters. ran a very ideological campaign. taking the fight to donald trump on the grounds. new york values. he was too liberal for the party. he was the only conservative. that coalition came out for him. surging. record turnout. 185,000 plus. a lot of the voters came in for him. trump under performs. he ostentatiously brandished the polls and lost. marco rubio got a strong third place. he has the ability to change this race. we talked about who is the establishment candidate. it is marco rubio. it is time to coalece around
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him. >> david, you give us three big topics that matter. i love ostentatiously brandished. you have -- what this means in terms of why he won, right? why ted cruz won. what this means is rubio was so strong as a third and what this means going forward. iowa is a very important place. not historically of who will be president, but the change of play in the gop. let's look at these one at a time. when you look, bakari of why ted cruz won. when you not go to the debate and shaking people up and so many voters did not decide in the last few days? >> i think the tell tale sign is
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sharing our values of the polls. who shares our values? donald trump wasn't on the spectrum. the number one take away, we have been going back and forth. can jeb bush stop donald trump? can lindsey graham stop trump? what we saw is the voters of iowa stopped donald trump. when it was time to get beyond the polls and people cast a ballot, we saw what happens. one thing that david said -- >> it is not like trump was in single digits. not enough to win. >> he will not calculate this as a victory. everyone will tell you he under performed yesterday. now what will happen is unique. john kasich and everyone else building momentum in new hampshire and everyone else, they have been squeezed out by marco rubio. you are going to start to see the dominos fall. the gop establishment will coalese around marco rubio. if there is anyone they don't like more than donald trump is
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ted cruz. >> there is no real establishment in the gop, but there are important players who are in public office and looking if marco gets 19%, that will be strong. he exceeded that. he got the late deciders. they will lean on these guys. >> don't they wait until after new hampshire? >> no. today in south carolina, the biggest endorsement in south carolina, senator tim scott is going to marco rubio. he is taking this third place finish, where if my kid finishes in third place, my kid has to do better. >> who makes this call? who calls governor christie or governor bush and says you need to coalesce around? >> there are a number of people who could play that role. speaker ryan could be important. >> you think he can pick up the
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phone and call john kasich and say get out of the race? >> it could be mitt romney to pick up the phone. there will be momentum there. whether it happens now or they wait a few days. >> let's take a break. a lot to discuss. iowa is big, but it means so much for forward. let's talk about that. now the table is set on the democratic side. tomorrow night, hillary clinton and bernie sanders will answer questions directly from new hampshire voters. a presidential town hall in derry, new hampshire. moderated by our anderson cooper. how do the candidates feel after iowa? we will have bernie sanders and ted cruz. stay with us. we'll be back. ...to turn the tables. crest 3d white toothpaste... ...removes 5 times more stains... ...than the red box. for a smile like that, crest 3d white...
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tuesday, february 2nd. mick is in new york. alisyn and i are in manchester, new hampshire at the waterworks cafe. the red line should be for the democrats. it is too close to call. hillary clinton is claiming victory in the caucuses. the historically slimmest margin they have ever had there. just tenths of a percentage point away. >> on the republican side, ted cruz has reason to celebrate this morning. the evangelical turnout helped him beat donald trump for the win. marco rubio finishes a strong third. as the sun rises here on the east coast, the sun sets on two candidates who called it quits after a poor showing caucus. we will be speaking with three of the presidential candidates. we have for you bernie sanders, ted cruz, and john kasich.
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senior political correspondent brianna keilar is in des moines. brianna, what's the latest? >> reporter: hi there, alisyn. as you heard it, the clinton campaign saying, look, we won this. the delegates get split. keep that in mind. the iowa state director for the clinton campaign say statistically there is no outstanding information that will change the results. what does that mean? it means at this point according to the iowa state party, democratic party's count, hillary clinton is leading bernie sanders by four state delegates equivalents. there are only 2.28 state delegate appointments in question. both campaigns, they said this would be close. no one said it would be this close. >> wow. what a night. >> reporter: the final votes are still not tallied. >> it looks like we are in a
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virtual tie. >> reporter: but hillary clinton's camp is claiming victory in a tight race. the closest in iowa democratic caucus history. secretary clinton optimistic early on that the final results will be in her favor. >> i stand here tonight breathing a big sigh of relief. thank you, iowa. >> reporter: delivering a fiery speech to supporters, conjuring the same ideals fueling her rival bernie sanders campaign. >> i am a progressive who gets things done for people. i know what we are capable of doing. i know we can create more good-paying jobs and raise incomes for hard-working americans again. i know that we can finish the job of universal health care coverage for every single, man, woman, and child. >> reporter: supporters listening at the sanders camp did not agree. >> what iowa has begun tonight
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is a political revolution. i think the people of iowa have september a very profound message to the political establishment, to the economic establishment, and, by the way, to the media establishment. that is given the enormous crises facing our country. it is just too late for establishment politics and establishment economics. >> reporter: now the democratic candidates setting their sights on the granite state, carrying their momentum in the dead heat match up into is next week's new hampshire primary. >> we will be all over this thing. and i look forward to having a great victory in new hampshire. thank you all so much. >> that's senator bernie sanders. this morning in new hampshire, we went out there to find him at the airport. he had just landed. we got him to do an interview with us.
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he still hadn't heard from the iowa state party about what the final results were. that's how close this tally is right now. so how does the senator see it? this is what he said. >> what is the party telling you right now? we know they were releasing some information. nothing final. there seems to be flux about which votes are more outstanding. >> first of all, i think you probably know more than we do. we just got off the plane. but obviously we'll be in contact with the party tomorrow. bottom line, look, we started that campaign 40, 50 points behind. when we lose by a fraction of a point, whatever, we are very proud of the campaign that we won. the significance is for folks who did not think bernie sanders could win, that we could compete against hillary clinton, i hope that thought is now gone. we will fight very hard in new hampshire. then we will go to nevada, south carolina.
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we look forward to going around the country. >> do you take this as a victory no matter what the margin is? >> absolutely. you are talking about one way or the other. we need 2,300 to win this thing. maybe we lost by one, two, zero, whatever it may be. what this shows is this has started in a very forceful way, starting way, way back coming to a virtual tie. we are going to fight here in new hampshire. look forward to winning here and doing well across the rest of the country. >> two things i want you to take on. first, there is an expectation this would be a national security election just because of the national event sps state of affairs. it seems the idea economics and what the security for the future is economically and a country seems to loom large if not larger. >> national security is always a major organization had you deal
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with an organization like isis. people realize there is something wrong when the middleclass continues to decline and the income and wealth is going to the top 1%. i'll tell you, chris, what i found in iowa, from conservatives, republicans, there is profound anger at a campaign system which allows billionaires to buy elections. nobody likes them. >> as voters get younger and as their income moves more into the middleclass, your numbers got bigger and bigger in the political information? >> in terms of work class people, that's what this campaign is about. it is asking people to stand up and fight for their rights, help us take on a billionaire class whose greed has done so much damage to our economy. second of all, in the last election, midterm election, 80% of people didn't vote.
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i'm proud we are bringing a whole lot of young people into the political process that would revitalize the american democracy. if we are going to change mesh, that's what we're going to do. >> what is your message to older voters who did not come out for you in the same numbers. >> that's true. and my mental is, check my record. you'll find there is no united states senator who has been stronger on senior issues, not only on defending social security but on the need to expand social security benefits. people can't make it on $12,000, $13,000 a year social security. second of all, very few, if any, members of the senate have been stronger on the need to take on the pharmaceutical industry and end this disgrace of americans paying by far the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. >> areas of minorities have not been a source of strength for you so far compared to secretary clinton. what's the message there? >> well, i haven't looked at all the results.
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but i think in iowa, from what i saw in one of the papers, we actually did pretty well. we lost. but that gap is growing slimmer and slimmer between the secretary and myself. i think you will find, as we get to south carolina and other states, that when the african-american community, latino community looks at our record, looks at our agenda, we're going to get more and more support. >> what was it like to be there with your family and have this moment? >> tonight was a thrilling night, certainly one of the more political nights in my life and we feel great. >> senator, thank you very much. good luck going forward. the senator, his wife and family very happy. bernie sanders is legit coming out of iowa. there is a success story for hillary clinton as well. >> yeah. >> bernie sanders set out to be very strong in iowa. that campaign feeling good as well. in fact, declaring victory as we await word from the party. on the gop side, big story is
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marco rubio. ted cruz won, but he was also in the calculus. but marco rubio almost tying donald trump, that's a big deal. hive in new hampshire where several candidates are stumping ahead of the primary now. >> that's right, chris. so much for those expectations that donald trump was going to cruz to the nomination. it was a texas-size night for ted cruz, who rode his impressive ground operation to victory. now comes to new hampshire where donald trump has a sizable double digit lead in the polls. but suddenly looks beatable. >> congratulations, senator. >> reporter: this morning, 11 gop candidates are marching on to new hampshire. >> god bless the great state of iowa. >> reporter: ted cruz is riding high of the best night in the texas senator's political career. >> to god be the glory.
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tonight is a victory for courageous conservatives across iowa and all across this great nation. >> reporter: cruz defied the polls that had him in second place and is surpassed donald trump by thousands in iowa. it can only be described as huge. >> i was told by everybody do not go to iowa. you could never finish even in the top 10. we finished second. and i want to tell you something, i'm just honored. i'm really honored. and i want to con great late ted. >> reporter: cruz turned out the most votes for any republican ever cast in iowa, a stunning result that sets a long table for the heart and soul of the gop. >> we will go on to get the republican nomination. >> reporter: he off boasts about his poll numbers was gracious in defeat and even suggested he might become an iowan. >> i think i might come here and
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buy a farm. >> they told me they had no chance because my hair wasn't gray enough and my boots were too high. >> the people of this great state sent a very clear message. after seven years of barack obama, we are not waiting any longer to take our country back. >> reporter: momentum his supporters hope will give the republican establishment the fighting chance it's been seeking in this race. >> when i am nominee, we will unite our party, grow our party, and we will defeat hillary clinton or bernie sanders or whoever they nominate. >> now, there was one political casualty on the gop side. mike huckabee announce he is ending his campaign. he will travel to arkansas tomorrow to offer support to donald trump, who has a rally scheduled there, of all places. but the smokes man says that is
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not happening. how good a night for marco rubio? both he and donald trump are tied in delegates. donald trump is not the front-runner anymore, guys. >> all right. jim, thank you for that status update. so to all of you watching, you're going to hear from the candidates. i speak with governor john kasich. dana bash speaks with senator ted cruz, and of course chris spoke with bernie sanders. a stunning night candidates like bernie sanders and ted cruz. we'll talk about all that when we come back. if i want to go up... hello. or if i want to go down... no. but then if i want to come back again... yes. it's perfect. my favorite part is to be able to lift your legs up a little bit and it feels like i'm just cradled. (vo) change your sleep, change your life, change to tempur-pedic.
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if you are just waking up, we have a lot news for you. hillary clinton declaring victory in the iowa democratic caucuses. though the state party has not yet officially declared a winner. and the headline for the gop, ted cruz winning big in iowa. here with us to talk about all the permutations of this is the former moderator of nbc's "meet
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the press", david greggry. cnn contributor and member of the south carolina house of representatives, bakari sellers, and cnn political contributor and author of "too dumb to fail" matt lewis. the polls were not right, it turns out, david. they didn't exactly capture what the margins were going to be here certainly for donald trump. >> what is really extraordinary is even ted cruz's supporters, steve king, who was the on the program yesterday, said 135,000. he said if we're at 135, 000, ted is good. a flood of new voters or they're all for trump. not so. new york values. positions on abortion. all the loans he got. personal bankrupts. he went right at trump, which the other candidates have not
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done. and he really turns out those very conservative voters. that is a classic play for iowa. and it's really what makes a difference. >> on the gop side with respect to trump, what did missing that debate mean? because a lot of voters picked up their choice in the last few days. and the category of can they win the election seemed to be the biggest plus/minus for him. >> you have to realize in iowa we weren't sure the role of the ground game, what role that would play. the question was, can donald trump come in and win based on his brash personality? can you do the flyovers in the 757 and just win the hearts and not have any ground game whatsoever and people just show up and vote for him. the answer to that question is resoundingly know. and to the new york question, ted crud, even when all pundits said you need to back away from that because donald trump stayed
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the course and he kept drilling trump. the question was who can take out donald trump? the answer, the voters of iowa. >> and opposing the ethanol subsidy, he got hammered by that. >> and i think the governor is a loser too. we talk about the establishment. three of the four, trump, cruz, and carson, three of the top four are anything but establishment. the gop leadership has a problem. >> so, matt, is it fair to say this morning the birther attacks against ted cruz's citizenship didn't work? >> yes. yeah. didn't work. >> i have this one. i called cruz. and i knew -- we knew something was going to surprise us. and i think the big story here is that for months and months we have been hearing donald trump is dominating polls. for several weeks he was winning in iowa. you know, this clown car, "too
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dumb to fail" campaign, finally the voters in one state have spoken. what we have -- i think we have a return to normalcy. it is a much more sane campaign. those of us who follow politics, organization matters. guess what, turnout matters. guess what, the republican party is a conservative party. >> so there are still rules? we haven't thrown out the rule book? >> the notion that on the day after iowa ted cruz is giving a sigh of relief -- >> yeah. but there's marco can rubio too. >> i don't think it's cruz that is playing to matt's point. it's rubio. what do you do to coalesce around the rival to the outside influence in the gop? do you think there is anybody who can make a phone call to governors kasich, to christie and say, looks like marco has
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you this time. >> nobody can broker anything. nobody has the gravitas or the moral authority to get anybody out of this race. i think in a sane world, marco rubio becomes the republican nominee. he is the best position if you want to actually beat hillary clinton in november. >> why? why is he the best? >> any democrat with good sense would tell you the opponent we don't want to face in november is marco rubio. he's very talented. in his victory speech he made the entire world think he won the race. >> very bill clinton. >> he channeled barack obama. >> that's what you heard last night. they thought i wasn't going to win. they thought i was too young. and i just overcame all odd. it was fascinating to watch. >> to answer your question, chris, the contrast of marco rubio against hillary clinton, the future of the party, the
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past of another party, you really have a future played there. he can bring conservatives around on immigration. he is strong on national defense. he came of age with party support. he can put it altogether. and i think you have to say he is the establishment favorite at this point. my earlier point, though, is the unconventional candidate in the form of trump, in the form of cruz, still got most of the votes. over 50%. >> and we're talking about coalescing. if, for example, trump, carson, all the evangelical voters coalesce, ted cruz. >> he is a mainstream conservative, not this other weird phenomenon that trump represents. >> thank you. good to talk to you. >> the race has not been declared over. however, hillary clinton is declaring victory based on what is known at this time.
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bernie sanders basically in a statistical dead heat. a hue separate them. the question is what will iowa mean? it is history on many levels. what does it predict happens in new hampshire, south carolina? we'll tell you when we come back.
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welcome back, everyone. chris and i are here in new hampshire where hillary clinton and bernie sanders are set to hit the campaign trail this afternoon as the two democratic candidates remain locked in a virtual tie with clinton's campaign declaring victory at this hour. jonathan tessini author of "the essential bernie sanders and his vision for america" and democratic strategist paul who is co-chair of a pro hillary clinton superpac. thanks for being here. paul, let's start with you. hillary clinton, your candidate, is declaring victory this morning. but this is much tighter. the results are razor thin and much tighter than anyone in the campaign expected. how do you think the campaign is feeling this morning? >> well, my guess is -- first off, i think hillary committed the sin of candor where she said i'm breathing a huge sigh of relief.
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there was a stunning victory against barack obama eight years ago. she carries those memories going into this year. i'm sure they're very relieved. at the same time, they need to listen to these voters. caucus attendees are saying the gap divided by age is extraordinary. she won 69% of seniors. bernie won the youth vote with 84%. especially those young voters are saying the economic deck is stacked against them. they are really trying to accepted a populist message. and she's going to listen to that and adapt. so does bernie. sit basically a tie. now we move forward. as a democrat, i am happy with how the two of them conducted themselves. >> jonathan, there's two ways to look at this. you can either look that bernie sanders pulled off what is basically a victory for them because they exceeded
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expectations in tying hillary clinton or you can look at it that iowa was tailor made for the bernie sanders voter. it is white. there are lots of progressives, liberals, activists. it doesn't spell good signs ahead. what do you think? >> alisyn, i woke up with the famous gandhi quote in my head. i don't disagree with what paul said. look at the forrest, six, seven months ago bernie sanders was 40 points behind in iowa. he was at 3% in the polls. if i had told you then that essentially bernie sanders would have fought iowa to a tie, that he would have raised $20 million just in january, which means he will be competitive into the super tuesday states, which means this will go all the way to the convention, you would have said you're crazy. but what has happened is he
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ignited a political revolution. this country is changing. and he has ignited a political revolution because people do not want to support the status quo. i have been traveling around the country for bernie all around the country you see thousands, tens of thousands of volunteers portion out, working for bernie, enthusiastic about a revolution. it's not just young people. there are a lot of seniors. his record is unsurpassed in terms of his support for seniors, older voters. >> he's trying to win them over. sorry to interrupt you. he's making a direct appeal to them because he think his record speaks to them. paul, i want to bring you in because of what jonathan said. does bernie sanders have the momentum in terms of money, in terms of crowds, in terms of polls going forward? >> well, frankly, no. it was basically a tie. the "new york times" announced
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it was tailor made for senator sanders, and i think it was. first off, go back and look at the tape. i was talking to brother cuomo six months ago. and i said there's no way he gets 52 in iowa. that's what i said back then. she got 50. so people who follow this could see this coming. because the democrats want a fight. they want a contest. now we're going to have one. i think it's great if senator sanders wants to claim a revolution from the narrowest of wins or losses. but we have a campaign with a contest going forward. >> the political revolution, if i can say, paul, it's not just about what happened in iowa. again, you cannot ignore the fact he has raised a tremendous amount of money, 3 million from over a million contributors. average contribution is $27. unlike the superpac which raises money from very, very rich people. this is a political revolution at the grassroots. it is happening all across the
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country. the biggest challenge bernie had is fighting a celebrity with 99% name recognition. for someone coming from the state of vermont who wasn't well-known to make that kind of progress in just six or seven months is astounding. >> paul, jonathan, sorry, we have to leave it there. >> she is not a game show host. she is someone who served her country, as is senator sanders. >> i'm sure you can both agree on that. thank you for that debate. tomorrow night, hillary clinton and bernie sanders will answer questions directly from new hampshire voters. this is going to be a presidential town hall at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here only on cnn. well, sanders has a clear advantage in new hampshire in the latest polls, as has donald trump on the republican side. will that change after iowa? what did last night change in terms of momentum? we'll be right back.
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we are live from where you need to be. nasp tphafplt. most of the presidential were candidates scheduled to campaign here today. they all have their eyes set on winning the next big primary. that would be here next tuesday in the granite state. so how did what happened in iowa last night, what is still happening on the democratic side, how is that going to shape
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new hampshire and beyond? let's discuss john avalon. and republican consultant margaret hoover editor in and trump supporter, kaley mack anyone. when be look at what this means on both sides, let's start with the democratic side. look at it two ways. bernie sanders is now legit. a statistical dead heat. it is not a fluke. you see who in that party wants him and who he needs to work o. the other side is, hey, this state was tailor made for bernie. hillary coming as close as they did, that's good news as well. >> they are putting too much emphasis on the media narrative. we know he is heading into a great state of new hampshire. he is from the neighboring state of vermont. hillary clinton, who is
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considered by most to be the strongest democratic nominee outside the activist class, is competing neck and neck with a 74-year-old socialist. that's a reality check. she at least has declared victory. when romney had the lead over santorum, that seemed to be a benediction. let's realize this is neck and neck in the caucus. they are heading into rougher waters in new hampshire. >> margaret, what do you think iowa changed moving forward on either side? >> the number one headline out of iowa is that donald trump is fallible. he can lose. his bubble has been burst some. and nobody knew that. even in his acknowledgment speech that he had lost last night he said i'm still the best person to beat hillary clinton because the polls tell me so. not a good night to be looking at the polls if that's all you've got to support your candidacy.
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ted cruz ran against ethanol. you cannot be against ethanol, and ted cruz did it, demonstrating that is a false narrative even when the governor of the state said don't touch ethanol. >> the evangelical vote was big. his going back at donald trump seemed to matter. what does this mean now and going forward? >> he will do very well on super tuesday. it resonated with them. i think the biggest headline out of this is this is an outsider's election. two-thirds of votes went to outsiders. bernie sanders, a socialist, having a formidable presence against hillary clinton. this is an age where americans are angry. they want someone outside the traditional political establishment. we saw outsiders pull off a big victory. i think it's going to be a marco rubio and donald trump vying for
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number one. >> the key dynamic going into new hampshire is fundamentally different slice than iowa, right? first of all, it's the first primary. we will see a higher turnout. second of all, registered independents outnumber here. they can vote. you will have is a higher turnout and much more motivation for the center. 60% of iowa caucusgoers identify evangelica evangelicals. that's a totally different slice. >> margaret, marco rubio, was last night a game changer for what happens for him going forward? >> yeah. expectations, expectations, expectations. the expectation was trump. cruz coming within 200 votes of donald trump. if you listen to the words he used in his speech, you would have thought he won number one, not number three. this was absolutely floored marco rubio coming into new hampshire. a win for marco rubio.
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now he can actually go back and say is i am a viable mainstream establishment candidate giving cause fort other candidates and other supporters and donor money to rally around him. >> so a big known and big unknown. the big known we are all waiting for. once you have votes, it's not just about hype. it's about performance. so donald trump was going to have to come down in volume because he is going trof competition. we didn't expect he would have this much competition. but right behind him, having a guy so close. the unknown is, will there be a coalescing around marco rubio? who could reach out and say, you should look at him. maybe premature. he may not perform in new hampshire and maybe even john kasich. >> i think it is important to look at new hampshire as it was pre-iowa. you have donald trump at 21%. in a statistical dead heat. you have kasich, rubio, jeb, ted
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cruz. he will pose a formidable challenge here to donald trump. one thing worth mentioning. a cnn poll showed 30% of new hampshire had made up their mind. >> panel, thank you. i know you have a lot more to say. we are going to have breaking news momentarily. right now we are waiting for marco rubio to speak at a new hampshire diner. he's fresh off that impressive win in iowa. so, what will he say to new hampshire voters this morning? we'll bring that to you when we come back. retirement journey takes you, we can help you reach your goals. call us or your advisor t. rowe price. invest with confidence. pure is big, bold and just better. pure is mccormick. the smallest pinch of pure mccormick can make meals legendary. we want to help you realize the rich taste that pure can bring. because pure tastes better.
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good morning from our new york studios. iowa caucus more offing into the cliff hanger. hillary clinton declaring victory overnight. there has been no ruling from the party. the two shift to new hampshire with one less opponent. former maryland governor suspending his campaign. texas senator ted cruz managed to eclipse donald trump for the top spot. and marco rubio seemed to savor his rather strong third place showing. mike huckabee is also dropping out of the race. initially under way in geneva. a mediator insisting a solution must be found for the suffering syrians.
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secretary of state john kerry is joining 23 nations and the eu to develop a global strategy against isis. >> a global emergency by the world health organization regarding the zika virus. it requires a coordinated response. that is spreading rapidly across the americas and poses the biggest risk to pregnant women with a suspected link to a birth defect. all right. it's a big week in sports. broncos and panthers facing the media during super bowl night. >> for the first time ever, media day was moved to the evening but it was still the same chaos it always is. clowns, super heroes. miss universe was asking questions and dancing with some of the players. 2,000 media members were on hand for this. i say media members loosely. peyton manning and cam newton
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did talk about facing off against one another in super bowl 50. >> he's been a great passer, great runner, great leader. you don't go 17-1 as a starting quarterback without being awesome. and that's what he's been this year, without a doubt. >> it has been a tremendous honor to be affiliated with the face of the league. but yet i think i have bigger fish to fry on sunday. and we will work about the rest of the 8 to 10 years after that. >> peyton once again dodging the question if this will in fact, be his final game. he said it could be but it doesn't mean it will be. >> if you were a betting man, would you say that it is? >> yes. >> ohio governor john kasich setting his sights on new hampshire after struggle to go make his mark in iowa. we will ask about his strategy. he'll join us next on "new day". stay with us.
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now that the verdict is in, at least on the gop side, out of iowa, all eyes are on new hampshire where we are. ohio governor john kasich focusing on the granite state after finishing eighth in iowa. he's polling well here in new hampshire. he's hoping for a breakthrough performance in the february 9th primary. i met up with governor kasich to talk about his strategy and so much more. >> governor, thanks so much for being here with "new day". great to talk to you. you have been very honest that basically you put all of your eggs in a new hampshire basket. you are counting on a big finish here. so what's your argument to the people of new hampshire for this final week? >> come on. i'll be hitting 100 town halls. i'm operating on the sunny side
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of the street. i tell people, yeah, i've been a reformer. i've been involved in more fights than you can imagine. but with great accomplishments. whether it's jobs, welfare reform, fixing my own state. i just tell them these problems we have they can be fixed. people seem to be very positive and hopeful when they leave. >> you're not the only candidate with a lot invested. marco rubio, jeb bush, chris christie, all making a big play for new hampshire. what's different about you? >> my people tell me the same thing all the time, be yourself. and that's what i'm to go. we're now in solid second place in the state. they are throwing $4 million of negative ads as me. we'll see if we can withstand it. we'll see. >> what is it going to take to stop trump? >> it will take me telling people who i am. at the end of the day people want somebody at the end of the day who can land the airplane. people are legitimately
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concerned and anxious. they are in their 50s, someone tells them they don't have a job. their kid is running up debt. i understand all of that. but the solutions to these problems are not complicated. the only thing is people who don't know how to come together to let everybody in america to have a chance. if i thought he was unstoppable, i would go back to ohio tomorrow. it's a long way to the finish line. he's not unstoppable. we think if we do well, we will emerge. all my eggs are not just here. we are ready to run a national campaign in south carolina, nevada. we have the best organization in mississippi. we are strong in alabama. and i have people here. think about when we go to the midwest. illinois, michigan, ohio, pennsylvania. it's like that's kind of like good for me when we get there. >> the party establishment, one of the suggestions is that at some point people will need to coalesce -- the candidates will
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need to coalesce around one rival to donald trump in order to beat him. who should get out. >> look, a national reporter said there's three lanes, establish many lane, anti establishment lane, and the kasich lane. that's the lane i operate in. >> would it help to win the field? >> after iowa and new hampshire, it will be a smaller field. it will continue to be a smaller field. the smaller the field, the more people will be able to hear people like me. look, nobody in the country knows who i m. they just don't. they know who i am in new hampshire. i'm not a celebrity. i didn't have a national television show. i'm the governor of ohio. so nobody knows me. that whole business of being known is going to change. >> how? >> because you're all going to be talking about me. then people will say who is this guy? how do you pronounce his name? it's kasich. it rhymes with basic.
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i'm going to do town halls all over america. i want people to question me. i don't want to show up and make a speech and go out the door. i want people to know me. that's what we're going to try to do. >> you said if you get smoked in new hampshire you will take your parting gifts and go home. >> yeah. >> what does that look like here? >> we will know on the morning of the 10th whether we will be a story. sit whether you are saying, oh, my, this guy kasich, we sort of counted him out. the campaigns are spending $4 million of negative ads against me? do you think they're worried? they don't spend $4 million against somebody at the bottom. all of a sudden you folks will be forced to shift a little bit of your attention away from the trumper and you might have to talk about john kasich. >> in the past we have talked about our love of music.
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best concert ever? >> pink floyd's the wall. roger waters. i saw it in pittsburgh. it was absolutely incredible. i don't have to think twice. it was the best. if i'm president i will once and for all try to reunite pink floyd to come together and play a couple songs. since we have so much trouble in america with our finances, i'm going to start with a little song they created called money. >> it's better than comfortably numb. >> we may be comfortably numb when we're done with new hampshire. we'll see. >> there you go. so you heard what his presidential anthem would be when he becomes president. we are following a lot of news for you, including an iowa winner, senator ted cruz. so let's get straight to it. >> god bless the great state of
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iowa. >> we finished second. i want to con garage late ted. >> the most votes ever cast for any republican primary winner. >> we will go on to get the republican nomination. >> a victory for courageous conservatives. >> we are not waiting any longer to take our country back. >> they told me we have no chance because my hair wasn't gray enough and my boots were too high. >> wow, what a night. an unbelievable night. >> it looks like we are in a virtual tie. >> this campaign stands for what is best in america. >> the people of iowa have sent a very profound message. the government of our great country belongs to all of us. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and
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michaela pereira. >> we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day". it is tuesday, february 2nd. michaela is in new york this morning. great to see you. chris and i are here at the wonderful waterworks cafe in manchester, new hampshire. they are serving up a lot of delicious breakfast food for us following a wild night in the iowa caucuses. breaking news this morning. harrisburg-'s campaign declaring a win over berne where sanders in the iowa caucuses despite, as you can see on your screen, a razor-thin margin. cnn not calling the race here. but the candidates separated by less than one half of 1%. on the republican side, a decidedly more finished affair. ted cruz using the backing of evangelicals to fend off donald trump, who settles for second. marco rubio finishing a strong third, one point behind trump. >> yet there the race has just started. we will speak with bernie
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sanders, ted cruz, and john kasich. we have all angles covered. because a lot of history was made and the table was set for more. let's begin with dana bash who spoke with ted cruz after his big win. dana, this was a big win for him. people felt it played to his strength in iowa. it doesn't happen until it happens, and now he has the momentum. >> it was so fascinating watching even throughout the day yesterday. even the cruz campaign genuinely thought if there was more people who went to the caucuses it would be better for donald trump. but it turned out it was his win. >> senator, congratulations. >> well, thank you. it has been a remarkable victory here in iowa. really a victory for the grassroots. it is breath take to go see what happens when so many americans stand up and decide they're fed up with what happens in washington and they want something different. they want a leader they can trust. they want someone who will stand and fight for them against the
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corruption of washington. and heidi and i are overwhelmed. we're gratified. and we're encourage said going on to new hampshire, to south carolina, going on to compete and win this primary and together turn this country around. >> had you already sent a bouquet of flowers to marco rubio taking trump's votes away? >> i'm focused on our victory tonight and the fact that courageous conservatives across iowa, all across the country generated the most votes ever given to think republican victor in a republican primary. that is an unbelievable grassroots. we had over 12,000 volunteers in iowa. we have 200,000 volunteers nationwide. that's the strength of this campaign. it is a grassroots campaign. that has been where our fund-raising has come from. it has been where our energy has come from. it's where our passion comes
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from. and if you want to know who i'm accountable to, that is to whom i'm accountable. it is the women and women of the grassroots. >> let's look ahead. >> yeah. >> who do you think your biggest competition is? donald trump? is he still a factor? >> 6th candidate is going to have of to decide what they do next in the campaign. i like and respect everyone in this race. i like and respect donald trump. i like and respect marco. they both had a good night. i congratulate them in their second and third place finish. ben carson had a good night. everyone in this field i like and respect. we're going to stay focused on making the case to the american people that we can't have another campaign conservative. >> i was kind of tailor-made for ted cruz. 85% said they were
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conservatives. 15% say moderate. of the moderates, he only got 9%. how do you translate what you did here to other states that don't have such a conservative electorate? >> i'm amused hearing iowa is tailor-made for us. i heard trump will win, trump will win. every media pun it did. suddenly about the grassroots proved the media wrong, of course it was a foregone conclusion that ted was going to win. this is the power of the conservative grassroots. there is a silent majority in this country. one of the greatest lies that gets told over and over again is this country has somehow embraced the government liberalism. this is a country built on judeo christian values. and the heart of my campaign is
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based on common sense. live within your means. don't bankrupt your kids. >> do you think they could emerge by the middle of march? do you think you have the path to be that person? >> i think it is entire possible we know our nominee by the end of march. the states are front loaded. a great many are chosen by the end of march. winning iowa is a good first step. you have to do more. that doesn't do it on its own. but winning iowa particularly. if you look at the past two caucus winners, when they came out of iowa they were broke. they didn't have the national infrastructure to be able to compete effectively enough to win the no, ma'minationominatio. the finance reports filed last night showed at the end of december 31st that we had almost as much money in the approximate bank, our campaign, as the campaigns of jeb bush, marco rubio, john kasich and chris
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christie combined. that is an incredible testament. usually the conservative is broke. we've got resources. over 200,000 volunteers and a grassroots army. i believe we have the national campaign and infrastructure to capitalize on this victory, to keep work to go win the votes. and i hope and believe if we continue to be effective that we're going to win the nomination and win the general election is and beat hillary clinton in november. >> senator, congratulations. thanks for your time. appreciate it. >> thank you very much. >> that was just moments after ted cruz won last night in iowa. he didn't want to talk about marco rubio. but the fact of the matter is when you look at the numbers, it's very clear that marco rubio helped ted cruz get the victory. let's look at one example. the number of republicans who decided just in the past few days, marco rubio, 30%, 30%.
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ted cruz, 25%. donald trump, 14%. another interesting number just to look ahead, people who could potentially win in november. marco rubio has the highest numbers by far. 44%. the saw it in tv ads. he's the most electable at least in this particular electorate. >> we keep talking about how unique this has been because you're coming out and representing in a way you haven't very often. but that the winner winds up being the lowest of the three in the estimation of whether or not they can win the general election. >> because the number one driving force for the people when went out to the caucuses last night was share my values. they wanted somebody who talks their talk, walks their walk. and that's why they voted for ted cruz. >> all right. dana, thanks so much for
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bringing us that interview. turning now to the democrats. clinton's campaign declaring victory in iowa. though the state's democratic party has not made it official. senior cnn political correspondent brianna keilar is live. >> reporter: the clinton campaign pretty eager to say they have had a turn around. matt paul says hillary clinton has won the iowa caulks. after thorough reporting and analysis of results, there is no uncertainty and secretary clinton has clearly won the most national and state delegates. still of course this race is too close to call. but statistically there is no way sanders can overcome what clinton has done here.
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this is what matt paul is referring to there. this from the iowa democratic party chair. the results tonight are the closest in iowa democratic caucus history. hillary clinton has been awarded 699.57 state delegate equivalents. bernie were sanders has been awarded 695.49 state delegate equivalents. still outstanding here they have results in one precinct, des moines-42, 2.28 state delegates. that's the issue here. a little more than four state gatt equivalents apart. but two at stake here. that's what the clinton campaign is referring to. really interesting numbers coming out of the polls that really matters. here in iowa and much beyond iowa. democrats were asked who is more honest and trustworthy? check this out. 83% bernie sanders. clinton, 10%. bernie sanders with so much
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interest in people who aren't normally engaged. he got 59%. >> brianna, we appreciate that. still waiting on the iowa democratic state party to announce their winner. this historically thin margin still in play. but senator sanders already got on his plane, already landed here in new hampshire. and he says he feels like this is a win for his campaign no matter what. we got out there. he spoke to us just before his first event, which was before the sun was up in new hampshire. here's what he had to say. >> what is the party tell you right now? we know they were releasing some information. nothing final. there seems to be some flux about which delegates, which votes are still outstanding? >> chris, i think you probably know more than i do. we just got off the plane. obviously we'll be in contact with the party tomorrow. but bottom line for us, look, we
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started our campaign, you know, 40, 50 points behind. whether we lose by a fraction of a point or win, whatever, we're very proud of the campaign that we won. and i think the significance is for folks who did not think bernie sanders could win, that we could compete against hillary clinton, i hope that thought is now gone. we're going to fight really hard in new hampshire and we're going to nevada, south carolina. we look forward to doing well around the country. >> do you take this as a victory regardless of what the margin is? >> absolutely. what you're talking about is one way or the other. a couple of delegates. we need 2,300 to win this thing. so maybe we lost by two. maybe we lost by one. zero. whatever it may be. but what this shows is that this campaign has started in a very forceful way, starting way, way back and coming to a virtual
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tie. look forward to winning here and doing well across the rest of the country. >> there was an expectation this would be a national security election because of recent events and just the state of affairs. it seems that the idea of economics and what the security for the future is economically and as a country seems so loom large if not larger. >> look, national security is always a major issue when we're dealing with barbaric organizations like isis. but the truth is the average american understands there is something wrong when the middleclass continues to declass and almost all new income and wealth is going to the top 1%. and i'll tell you something else, chris, what i found in iowa not just from democrats but conservatives and republicans, there is profound anger at a campaign system which allows billionaires to buy elections. nobody likes that. >> what does it mean to you that as voters get younger and as
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their income moves more into the middleclass, your numbers got peurg and phreurg in the political information? >> i am -- well, number one, in terms of working class people gravitating towards our campaign, that's what this campaign is all about. asking people to stand up and fight for their rights, help us take on a billionaire class whose greed is doing so much damage to our economy. second of all, in the last election, the midterm election, 80% of young people didn't vote. 80%. i am proud of bringing a whole lot of young people into the political process that would revitalize the american democracy. and if we're going to change america, that's what we've got to do. >> what is your message to older voters who did not come out for you in the same numbers? >> no. that's true. and my message is, check my record. you'll find there is no united states senator who has been stronger on senior issues not only on defending social security but the need to expand
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social security benefits. people can't make it on $12,000, $13,000 a year social security. second of all, very few, if any, members of the senate have been stronger on the need to take on the pharmaceutical industry and end this disgrace of americans paying the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. >> areas of minorities have not been a source of strength for you compared to senator clinton. >> i haven't looked at all the results. in iowa, from what i saw in one of the papers, we actually did pretty well. we lost. but that gap is growing slimmer and slimmer between the secretary and myself. i think you will find as we get to south carolina and other states, that when the african-american community, the latino community looks at our record, looks at our agenda, we're going to get more and more support. >> what was it like to be there with your family? >> don't was a thrilling night. certainly one of the important
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political nights in my life. and we feel great. >> senator, good luck going forward. bernie sanders all business. the senator hit an event right after that interview. the sun wasn't even up. he was on the back of a pickup truck in new hampshire making his case. now, this is history on many levels what we saw with the caucuses last night. sit a story line that goes well beyond who won. let's bring in karen finney, senior adviser and spokeswoman for hillary for america and discuss the implications. karen, we know the campaign is declaring victory. we are asking and waiting on word from the iowa state party. a lot of people in your camp are saying, hey, this state set up better approximate for bernie than it did for hillary all along. we will take this victory no matter how thin. why? >> we feel really good about the campaign we ran in iowa, about the organization that we had,
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our grassroots infrastructure, our precinct cap taps. people got out and worked hard. i think with he saw wonderful numbers of people coming out to caucus for hillary. a lot of enthusiasm and excitement. i was at headquarters watching cnn. we were thrilled with the results from last night. >> now, the turnout was very big. not as big as her last race for president in 2008. but it certainly shows a very high level of participation. now, how do you look to see our path forward? the vote in iowa very strong for bernie sanders. honest and trustworthy, 38% to 10%. >> we look at these results.
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what i expected to happen happened. when people got in there to caucus is and they thought about who do i trust to take care of the issues and deliver on the issues that matter to me and my family, they went for hillary. i think that to me what the results showed. so we're feeling really good about the win. the secretary is in new hampshire. you guys are in new hampshire. we're kind of looking for new hampshire. we have nevada and south carolina is. as we move on in the calendar, we have more diversity, as you were mentioning. so we're excited to keep going on this race. >> so is let's look at the plus/minus. the plus is that secretary clinton is polling better among minorities and seems to be stronger as you start moving away from new hampshire. why do you think that is? and how will the campaign magnify that?
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we are not surprised to see senator sanders doing well there. i think we will be competitive. we have won a hard race. we have a great team on the ground. i don't want to prejudge that. a we move forward. both in the latino community, african-american community, voters have known the clintons for -- there's a history there. hillary has been working on issues with children, families, equality for her whole life essentially. her first job when she got out of law school she went to south carolina to work on the issue frankly of young people who were -- juveniles being incarcerated in adult prisons and to work on that issue. she went to doth in alabama to work on school desegregation case. my point being there is a history there with hillary clinton and these issues.
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again, i think there is a real trust there that she has a record on these issues and she understands both these issues. this is an element of economic in equality and systemic issues that need to be dealt with. we feel really good. the level of organization, i think we feel really good about our organization in the caucus states in addition to those primary states. >> everybody says that the clinton machine has learned from the last election, documented some of the techniques that the obama campaign with axelrod and bluff seem to help you there. one of the things the machine won't be able to address is the trust number. you are using trust as a positive with voters. it was also a negative in the polls last night. again, 80% to 13% in tpaeuf of
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bernie sand on the interest of trust. what can secretary clinton do to build that up? >> you talk about your record. she has a strong record of delivering results for people. that is something she is passionate about. she will continue to talk about that. we will continue to make that case in all you the states that are upcoming. again, what i feel confident again, what i feel confident about and i think i want
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hillary clinton and senator bernie sanders just a hair apart in iowa at this hour. clinton already declaring victory. but the state chair has not yet made it official. both candidates already setting their sights on the next prize. that of course is where we are in new hampshire. so how much will the iowa results impact the race here on the ground in the granite state? we have a great panel for you this morning. let's bring in the former moderator of meet the press, david greggry. former cnn political editor paul steinhauser and maeve reston. one of the fascinating things about what happened last night is the polls missed the mark. >> yeah. >> let me pull up a graphic of where the -- what they had would happen. this was over the weekend. this is the gold standard. everyone refers to the des moines register on the right. they predicted trump would win
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with 28%. but in fact, what happened was ted cruz won with 28%. trump came in second. rubio came in third. what do you see? >> and rubio outperforming his standing in that poll and some of the previous polls. the averages, the real clear politics average. you saw rubio outperformed that. you saw historic voter turnout on the republican side. yet it was rubio and cruz who were getting the voters, not just donald trump. elections belong to voters. that is what is so exciting about this moment. we cover elections two years out. once the voting starts we get a much bigger picture. donald trump, as i said earlier, was ostentatiously branding his polls. he is talking about having a big lead in nasp tphafplt. guess what, one of the great things about new hampshire politics, they have a way of saying, slow down, cowboy, we
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are going to reset this race. >> the last time we saw huge numbers in iowa was the obama/clinton primary in 2008. >> coming in here. >> that's right. >> obama had a big night. lost in new hampshire. things can certainly change. but also polls become largely suggestive, not predictive when you suggest for turnout. the eggs get easily scrambled. what do you see when you look at the numbers about what the reflection is of hillary's performance versus sanders in a state that many believed him to be strong in. maybe not this strong. >> a tie was a win for bernie sanders, no doubt about that. he has been leading in the polls since back in july. bernie sanders has a formidable organization. he was playing catchup in iowa. not here. he matches hillary clinton when it comes to number of full time volunteers, offices. >> it is a balancing factor in
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iowa, right? you have a lower number of minorities. bernie is not as strong as hillary. wasn't there playing to advantage in a way that won't be as true after new hampshire. >> after new hampshire, true. here in new hampshire, very similar demographic. very much a caucasian state. a place that fits bernie sanders in so many ways. >> entrance polls, that's how they do it in iowa. let's look at this. they asked the voters who is the candidate that shares your values? and this is fascinating. they gave cruz 38%. rubio, 21%. ben carson, 15%. rand paul, 7%. look, you have to go down to number five to get to donald trump. that is 5%. so that must have had an impact on who won last night. >> absolutely. being out with cruz's campaign in the final weekend, seeing how amazingly organized his people were, energized, so many of them
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the case they were making to the voters who were considering supporting donald trump in the final days was this guy does not line up with your values. he is not one of us. he has not had the strong evangelical values we do. clearly that argument won the day. not only for ted cruz but marco rubio in the final hours. a lot of evangelicals thought he would be a stronger commander in chief. ultimately they went with the other two being closer to where their values are. >> i'm interested in what the electorate looks like in new hampshire. sit an open primary system. independents and democrats can vote either way, which is significant. donald trump did do well. he did well if you compared about immigration. rubio stepped up if you cared about national security. if you're worried about losing your job to foreigners, you know, whether immigrants, others, if you're worried about, you know, getting screwed as a
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worker in this country because of trade, donald trump is still speaking to those disaffected democrats. this moves into the kind of electorate you know well that favors him well. >> bernie sanders. that will be so fun to watch here. is there actually a crossover vote between donald trump and bernie sanders, people not happy with the way the economy is going. sometimes the role is a little overplayed in new hampshire i'm sure paul would say. it will be fascinating to say where they end up. >> we thought it would play strictly to trump's advantage, and it did not. that said, he is very strong here in new hampshire. it is interesting, though. do you think he can win the race? he did not do well at all last night. >> i just talked to one of rubio's top guys in new hampshire. they are thrilled about the results there. they realize they have a fight here. this gives a government against the three guys who didn't spend any time in iowa.
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john kasich has been here nonstop. jeb bush and chris christie. trump, very strong organization here. lots of huge rallies. now is crunch time to see if his organization can get out the vote. >> absolutely. that's what john kasich is basing it on. >> he was winging it in iowa. >> brought sarah palin in. >> he is going to have to get real that good old fashioned organization and turnout worked for cruz. you can't totally wing it. >> thank you guys very much. go get a cup of coffee. we appreciate you guys being here. iowa voters appear to give donald trump a demotion, taking his number one status in the polls and making him number two in the caulks. how does his campaign strategy change going forward? we will talk with him about that. over 75 years. call us or your advisor.
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donald trump last night striking a gracious tone in his speech to iowa supporters. despite losing to ted cruz and the caucuses. joining us to discuss trump's strategy moving forward is co-chair of his campaign. thanks for being here.
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>> that you can for having me. >> i hope you got a wonderful cup of coffee at the water works cafe. >> yes, i did. >> are you surprised that trump did not win iowa? >> a little disappointed. but when we started back in june when i first came out and endorsed donald trump, he was never supposed to win iowa. >> the latest polls suggested he was going to win iowa. >> and that is true. and it was disappointing that we didn't win. but we're focused on new hampshire. i've always been focused on new hampshire. as we like to say here, match nasp picks presidenew hampshire presidents. >> when they decided, when they made their decision who they would caucus for, it was interesting. basically marco rubio -- shares my values. this is the first they want me to talk about. ted cruz got 38%. carson 15%. rapid parand paul 7%.
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look at where trump is. he did not feel he best shared their values. >> i can't speak to iowa. i'm here in new hampshire. iowa is a different dynamic with the evangelicals. i believe you will see that poll significantly different. i was involved with newt give ring and giuliani's campaign. >> one of the most exciting thing was not only that he came in second but he came close to marco rubio. marco rubio almost tied donald trump. he came in third. one of the polls also asked when did you decide who you were going to vote for. what they found is people who decided in the last few days went towards marco rubio.
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here you see marco rubio, who voters decided in the last few days, 25% went to cruz, 14% went to trump. that begs the question whether skipping that final debate in iowa as he did hurt donald trump. > again, i'm not sure whether it helped or hurt, but we are moving forward. donald trump is looking forward enthusiastically to the debate here on saturday. and i think donald trump will prevail in that debate and he will prevail and surprise a lot of people with how strongly he prevails here in new hampshire. >> last night proved polls get it wrong. there is something comforting about that. there are still surprises in store. >> yes. absolutely. voters have a say more than pollsters. it is interesting to look at the latest poll in new hampshire. this is the latest cnn wmur poll
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taken in the last few days. it is not after iowa. trump has 30%. cruz has 12%. but it is interesting to look at what happened since mid-january. trump support softened a bit down from 34, as has ted cruz, rubio ticked up a little bit. what do you think is going to happen in new hampshire? >> first of all, i think donald trump will by far be the winner here in new hampshire. it will be a very interesting dynamic between not only cruz and rubio but between rubio and christie and kasich as far as who is going to get that establishment lane. >> because a all of them have put a lot of time and investment here into new hampshire. >> absolutely. >> do you think it's time after iowa for a reshuffling of the debt? >> well, i think there has been so much investment by the -- for first, second, and third place. and the question is, is it going
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to be rubio? is it going to be cruz? where do they all come out? one advantage that cruz had was the strong evangelical vote in iowa. he does not have that here in new hampshire. and we have in new hampshire attracted and have a very, very strong ground game here in new hampshire. and donald trump has been coming here since june on a very regular basis. much more so than, for example, ted cruz. he has been here recently. but we have been building a ground game since june. we have had donald trump has been in front of almost 100,000 people since june with all the different events we have done here in new hampshire and massachusetts right across the border. and with that number of people who signed up on event bright we have tens of thousands of people that we have been putting into a database and mining that database.
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hillary clinton declaring victory in iowa without an official being named by the state's democratic party. so can we expect more nail biters between clinton and bernie sanders? now as we get to the primaries in new hampshire and nevada and south carolina. let's discuss what happened, what it means and what happens next with former obama senior adviser david axelrod joins us now. axe, i have an impression i think is important. i would like your take on it. presidential and mayoral elections are unique in that people are looking not for a replica but a remedy. how do you see that playing out in this race? that's in his book, by the way. >> in the democratic race? >> it's not original. >> in the democratic race? >> yes. >> look, i think hillary clinton actually -- when i talk replica and remedy, i am talking about style, approach.
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in that sense she is quite different than president obama. so i don't think that voters are necessarily looking -- certainly democratic voters for a remedy to his policies. i think one of the reasons why she survived last night is because more voters, at least in that entrance poll, want to continue the policies of the president and they want more liberal policies than the president. they want to build on what he's done. that's really what her campaign has stressed. but she did survive last night. i think er campaign did well to survive in a high turnout election, which everyone said would favor sanders. it was a tough night. it was a nail biter. >> yeah. i mean, let's talk about that. razor-thin margin. as of this hour this morning, the state chair still has not actually declared the winner. though hillary clinton's campaign declared victory. 49.8% to 49.6%. but getting back to your point,
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who do you think gets the psychic victory coming out of iowa? who cares at the end of the day who is one tenth of a point up or down? it is all about the perceptions. the fact is this race was a tie. and i think she can leave iowa, which is not a terribly friendly state to her, hasn't historically been feeling like she escaped. and bernie can take some real pleasure in the fact that he ran a very strong race there. and basically played the reigning champion to a tie. i think he needed a knockout to fundamentally change the diame eubgs of this race. he had a good night. he will raise money from it. >> what's the lesson that you learned in 2008 about going from iowa to new hampshire? obviously hillary performing differently in your race.
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wound up take it by a few points. what does that mean about her ability to organize and rebound? >> it's a very changeable place. i remember we arrived in new hampshire a dawn after the iowa caucuses like a conquering army ready to dictate the terms of surrender. we were 11 points ahead in the polls five days ahead of the primary, and we lost by two points. it is not a layup that everything that polls suggest are going to happen five days in advance or a week in advance is going to happen. he really does a strong base there. it will be surprising to me if bernie sanders lost. she might be able to tighten it up. she would have done better to win by a few points. i think bernie is in for a good night. what happens after new hampshire? what about states that aren't overwhelmingly white or liberal.
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can he make in where the majori votes are will be african american in the democratic primary. >> yeah we pose the questions. you give us the answers. so what is the answer to that? what will happen in south carolina and nevada david? >> well, first of all, let me say, the prediction business is very rough this year. so i'm a little leery. but i will say this. i think she goes in with real vacu advantages there and there is no real sense i can see he's made big inroads there. and we'll see if a big win in new hampshire affects that. but she has more connection and affinity with the minority voters in those states than bernie sanders just by familiarity. and it is going to be a hard dynamic to change within a matter of weeks. >> axelrod is not in the predicting business. he's in the winning business is
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what he's in. he knows how to run -- >> the winning business isn't doing so well either apparently. >> all right. so that is what's going on in the democratic side. on the gop side, marco rubio didn't just finish third. he got the same number of delegates as the second place finisher donald trump. so what does that mean now? is this the face of the man the take on trump and cruz? could he be the most electable republican? we'll discuss rubio's momentum into new hampshire next. es. it's a fact. kind of like vacations equal getting carried away. more proactive selling. what do you think michal? i agree. let's get out there. let's meet these people.
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there is a new word for your political vocabulary. it is "marco-mentum." nipping at the heels of donald trump. they are actually given the same number of delegates. why did this happen and what is happening going forward? let's bring in cline. let's look at some of the numbers. why this happened. it happened very late for rubio, the des moines register as you know spot on since 1988, got it wrong last night. big reasons why. last few days. lot of people who voted in the last few days 37% voted for rubio. do you think he can win the actual election. the general that number went for rubio. college kids went for rubio last
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night if we want to put those up so we can verify the statement by the anchor. why do you think that happened? >> couple reasons. someone the candidate. he's an incredible candidate. he has the optimism and the message and really connects with people. and you see that in new hampshire at a lot of town hall meetings and house parties. when they leave, they leave enthusiastic for rubio. and the other is the campaign. they are going good things. >> so the path forward to marco rubio is to be the alternative to the extreme. trump, cruz. but that means galvanizing a disparate group of governors in the gop. why would a kasich, who is showing strongly right here in the run up polls in new hampshire, a bush, a christie get behind marco rubio? >> because marco rubio is the
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candidate who can really unify whole party and that is one of the reasons why i got on board early on. not just because he has the best policies and he really connects well with people but he has the opportunity, the only candidate who really connects with people, not just with conservative, fellow conservatives but with people from all different parts of the republican spectrum. or the center right spectrum, if you will. rubio has the opportunity to bring people on board. a uniter and you saw it in iowa and will in new hampshire this week. >> how surprised by the numbers? >> i wasn't surprised for the surge for rubio. i was surprised how big the numbers. >> right. >> i think someone said on twitter last night, one more day rubio would have come in second and that's rightstatistically he's right there. >> do you think trump not going to the debate hurt him? >> yeah. of course. if you are undecided, you are watching the debate to make up your mind.
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of course it hurt. trump is it a hot irballoon with a leak right now. and that is not where you want to be going into hn. >> we look at new hampshire. could be a curve ball for rubio. he's not polling as high as other gop people who weren't a player in iowa. what happens if he's four or five in new hampshire and you get new names introduced? maybe a kasich? maybe a rubio -- not rubio. christie or maybe kasich? >> honestly i just don't see that happening. >> you know the state well. tell us why. >> i was there for a couple other candidates the past couple of weeks and you talk to people who leave the events and they still are uncommitted. i don't get a feel for momentum for either of the republican candidates but you feel it with rubio. >> independents can vote for the republican. if bernie sanders has as big a lead as people say he does, if he maintains it, they may say
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well even democrats why would i vote on that side? i'm going to vote on the republican side that. could give an infusion there. we'll see which way it goes. appreciate you being here. we have a lot more information for you on the results out of iowa. remember it still hasn't been announced as final from the state democratic party here. so let's get right to it. >> are you ready for a radical idea? it looks like we are in a virtual tie. >> breathing a big sigh of relief. thank you iowa. >> what iowa has begun tonight is a political revolution. >> i am a progressive, who gets things done for people. >> do you take this as the victory regardless of what the margin is? >> absolutely. >> we would go on to easily beat hillary or bernie or whoever the
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hell they throw up there. >> the state of iowa has spoke. to god be the glory. >> so this is the moment they said would never happen. when i am our nominee we are going to unify this party. >> iowa, we love you. we thank you. i think i might come here and buy a farm. i love it. okay? >> this is "new day," with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. "new day," mic is in new york. alisyn and i are at the waterworks cafe in manchester, new hampshire. the iowa caucuses is in the books, kind of. not actually resolved. why? well the iowa state democratic party hasn't called its winner yet. hillary clinton's campaign is declaring victory in this
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historically dead heat they have there. cnn has not yet called the race, why? one precinct yet to report. the margin between clinton and sanders less than one-half of one%. >> as the squeaker. on the republican side. ted cruz leads donald trump. another big headline out of iowa. a late surge by marco rubio who came in a very strong third. so we'll speak with two candidates, bernie sanders and ted cruz coming up. but lest begin our coverage with our senior political correspondent brianna keeler live in des moines with all the breaking details in the race. high brianna. >> hey there alisyn. can you imagine if we had this snow last night during caucus night? is so this is what hillary clinton's campaign is saying. the iowa state director is saying. saying hillary has won the iowa
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caucus. there is no uncertainty in secretary clinton has clearly won the most national and state delegates, statistic think there is no outstanding information that can change the results. perhaps there is not complete certainty as the campaign would like for us to believe but look at what the iowa democratic party chair is saying. really highlighting just how close this is. the results tonight the closest in iowa democratic caucus history. and here are the numbers. amazing. 699.57 state delegates for clinton. 695.49 for sanders. outstanding at this point is des moines, 42. we're waiting to see what happens there this morning. at the same time it is worth 2.28 state delegate equivalents and right now there is a spread of four. and that is why her campaign is saying that there is nothing --
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that he will not be able to overcome that. some really interesting numbers we got from entrance polls that tell you a lot not just about here in iowa but what is going to happen going forward. democratic caucus goers asked what do you think is honest and trust worthy? 83% sanders. 10% hillary clinton. and showing that sanders is getting people who don't normally participate. 59% of first time goers to him and 37% for clinton guys. >> huge numbers. but first things first. brianna keeler, you get the tiger tough award for perfectelperfect elocution while frozen in the cheeks. >> she looks like she's frozen in front of the kremlin. >> very strong. cnn strong right there. >> and cnn predicted the snow storm and it gave enough time for the caucuses to unfold. >> keeler is not joking around. my nose would have broken off
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and fallen on my feet if i were in there. thank you. get inside. senator sanders says this is a victory no matter what the iowa state party says that his campaign is real. he'll take this raiser thin margin in the iowa caucuses and come home to new hampshire basically, where he is very strong. and here is his reaction just steps from his plane early this morning. >> what is the party telling you right now. we know they are releasing some information. nothing final there. seems to be some flux about which delegates, which votes are more outstanding. >> you probably know more than i do. we haven't studied it just got off the plane. we'll be in touch with the party tomorrow obviously. but bottom line look. we started our campaign 30 or 40 points behind. whether we lose by a fraction of a point or whatever. we're very proud of the
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campaign. and i think the significance is for folks who think bernie sanders could not win, that we could not compete against hillary clinton i hope that is now gone. and we're going to new hampshire and south carolina and nevada and look forward to doing well around the country. >> do you take this as the victory considering what the margin is? >> absolutely. we lost by two, maybe one, maybe zero. whatever it may be. but what this shows is that this campaign has started in a very forceful way. starting way, way back and coming to a virtual tie. and we are going to fight here in new hampshire. look forward to winning here and doing well around the rest of the country. >> two things seem clear in the exit polls. first the there is an expectation this would be a national security election because of recent events and just the sfoof affairs.
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it steams that the idea of economics and what security of future economically and the country looms as large if not larger. >> national security is always a major issue when we're dealing with barbaric organizations like isis. on the other hand the truth is the average american understands that there is something wrong with the middle class continues to decline and almost all new income and wealth is going to the top 1%. and i'll tell you something else, chris. what i found in iowa and not just from democrats but from conservatives and republicans, there is profound anger at a campaign finance system which allows billionaires to buy elections. nobody likes that. >> what does it mean to you that as voters get younger and as their income moves more into the middle class, your numbers got bigger and bigger in the preliminary information. >> i am -- well, number one in terms of working class people who are gravitating to our campaign, that is what this campaign is about. it is asking working people and middle class people to stand up
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and fight for their rights. help us take on a billionaire class who's agreed is doing so much damage to our economy. second of all, in the last election t midterm election, 80% of young people didn't vote. 80%. i am very proud that we're bringing a whole lot of young people all over this country into the political process that we're revitalizing american democracy and if we're going to change america, that's what we got to do. >> okay. over on the other side of the aisle senator cruz stealing the show upsetting front runner donald trump. joining us is a dana bash. >> he's been so robust about the ground game t structure, the volunteers he has not just in iowa but around the country especially in key states.
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e a little here in new hampshire but much more going forward. and we talked about that and more moments after he won in iowa. >> congratulations. >> thank you. it has been a remarkable victory here in iowa and really a victory for the grassroots. it is breath taking to see what happens when so many americans stand up and decide they are fed one what happens in washington. and they want something different. they want a leader they can trust. they want someone who will stand and fight for them against the corruption of washington. and heidi and i are overwhelmed and gratified and encouraged going into new hampshire and south carolina and going into compete and win this primary and win the general election can and turn the down -- >> are you already sent marco rubio flowers for taking donald trump's votes away? that was a help for you. >> i recognize people want to talk about the third place finisher and that's fine. i'm focused on our victory tonight. and the fact that courageous
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conservatives all across the country generated the most votes ever given to any republican evict ner a republican primary. that is an unbelievable grassroots army. that is the strength of this campaign. it is a grassroots campaign. that's been where our fundraising comes from. energy comes from. our passion comes from. and if you want to know who i'm accountable to, that is to who i'm accountable. it is the men and women of the gras roots. >> less look ahead. what do you think your biggest competition is given the results tonight? is donald trump staill a factor? >> every candidate is going to have to decide what they do next -- >> whose your biggest competition? >> i like and respect everyone. donald and marco both had a good night. i congratulate them in their second and third place finish.
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ben carson had a good night. there are a lot of -- everyone in this field i like and respect. we're going to stay focused on making the case to the american people that we can't have another campaign conservative. >> i'm not taking anything away from your victory. you had a very solid, well-deserved victory given how much you guys worked. >> thank you. >> iowa is kind of tailor made for ted cruz. 85 factor conservative. 15% say moderate and of the moderates you only got like 5%. how do you translate what crow did here to other states without such a conservative electorate. >> i'm kind of amused iowa is tailor made for us. last night watches the news. every media pundit, cruz is going to lose. and suddenly when the grassroots
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proved the media one suddenly it was a foregone conclusion. this is the power of the conservative grassroots and there is a silent majority in the country. one of the great lies that gets told on the airways over and over is that this country has somehow embraced barack obama's big government failed liberal m liberalism. that is not true. this is center right country. build on judeo christian values. follow the constitution. >> do you think it could emerge by the moifld march. >> i think it is entirely possible with i know our nominee by the end of march. the states are front loaded. a great many of the delegates are chosen by the end of march. and winning iowa is a first step. winning iowa particularly, it is interesting if you look at the
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past two iowa caucus winners. very good men. people of principle. but when they came out of iowa they were broke. when they came out of iowa they didn't have the national infrastructure to be able to compete effectively enough to win the nomination. we're this very different position. the finance reports that were filed last night showed that at the end of december 31st, that we had almost as much money in the bank, our campaign, as the campaigns of jeb bush, marco rubio, john kasich and chris christie combined. that is an incredible testament. usually the conservative's broke. in this case because we've had over 800,000 contributions we've got an army. i believe we have the national campaign and infrastructure to capitalize on this victory, to keep working to eastern thorn ts and i continue to believe we're going win the nomination and win the general election and beat
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hillary clinton in november. >> congratulations. >> thank you for your time. appreciate it. >> thank you very much. so ted cruz giving a real strong assessment of why he won saying it is not a coincide. we're going to see more of it. saying he likes and respects donald trump, especially when he beats him. as for the number two finisher, he is now in new hampshire. he is now in new york but he's going to be shifting gears here in new hampshire hoping to fulfill the promise of polls that have him up here significantly right now. marco rubio finished a strong third. he was a surprise. same number of delegates as trump. so statistically just about in second place a tie there. so cnn senior white house correspondent jim acosta is live in manchester this morning. this is where the world turns in this election now, my friend. >> and donald trump is uncharacteristically quiet this
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morning. no tweets. he's not on the air. and i think in terms of disappointment, this was huge for donald trump. the unconventional trump may not have been enough. he didn't go to the traditional campaigning. and trump was simply out done by ted cruz's impressive ground operation. as he was not able to move those swarms of supporters we see at these big events to caucus sites to register their support. be thank you brash billionaire was uncharacteristically measured last night, almost soft spoke in in defeat. here is what he had to say. >> i was told by everybody do not go to iowa. you could never finish even in the top ten. we finished second. and i want to tell you something, i'm just honored. i'm really honored. >> now why did donald trump seem to lose steam at the end?
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measure of "marco-mentum" as people are calling it. it appears that last minute undecided voters opted for cruz over trump. many of those determining that rubio is more viable to take on hillary clinton or bernie sanders. the question in this race now comes to whether new hampshire is going to be the next step for marco rubio. whether that third place finish, very strong for rubio in iowa gives him momentum here. trump's challenge is proving that iowa is a fluke. he's riding high in the polls in new hampshire but he looks beatable here. one final thing. there was speculation that he was going to get the endorsement of huckabee tomorrow in arkansas but his spokesman says that is not happening. and trump has to wonder if appearing in arkansas is a good idea given what happened last night in iowa. >> let's bring in our panel. joining us is david gregory,
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former moderate ore f meet the presses. maeve reston. and mark preston, executive editor for cnn politics. great to have you here at the water works cafe with us. let's talk about the big headlines, david. ted cruz wins iowa and this morning what he credits his win is the attacks on donald trump's new york values. he thinks that really resonated with people. >> i think you have to give cruz his due. great organization, retail politicking in iowa. turns out the evangelical voters gets all the new voters to come and gets a good share of those. and also something that other republicans don't seem to understand. which is you have to go hard at your opponent. and everybody gave him a hard time saying it was too cute by half. he knew who his audience was. it was iowans who get it. it's not a slight against new york. it's mostly to say he's liberal on issues like abortion. that he's much more willing to
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do dealing with democrats. and to a hard core rock-ribbed republican electorate that is going to play well. he took an ideological fight to trump and it worked and the other republicans didn't do it and they probably regret. >> what does it mean for ted cruz going forward? is the message in iowa enough to get him anywhere near the nomination? >> no. i don't think so. i mean you have to -- >> next question. no. why? why do you say that? >> ted cruz, she so far on the other side of the spectrum from a lot of the voters here in new hampshire. a lot of them are middle of the road. the states beyond south carolina going forward. i think the big question now for ted cruz is how he demonstrates appeal beyond evangelicals in iowa. clearly he had a very, very strong showing there and he's argued that he is going to be the guy who won't make deal, who won't compromise. but i don't know that that plays as well in other parts of the country. particularly when he's up
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against someone like marco rubio who perhaps looks to someone a little more like someone who would be a good general election nominee. ted cruz is really going to have to make the case now that he would be the strongest nominee up against hillary clinton. >> that is the next headline. marco rubio's finish. he almost tied trump. he came in a really solid third. >> he did. and something we actually saw several days out. and you could feel it on the ground. you would talk to operatives and not just his own campaign. the other campaigns saw it and felt it. going into late afternoon yesterday the rubio campaign was trying to tamp down expectations. now there has been a lot of criticism on the rubio campaign that they have not put a super strong infrastructure on the ground in iowa. the question is can he build upon it? last night, trump was very gracious in that loss. >> yes he was. >> and i was up here with ted cruz and talked to a lot of the other operatives for the
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campaigns. they said if trump lost and came in second and he came here blazing out of iowa saying the iowa voters didn't know what they were going to do. but coming out gracious might help trump. >> iowa is like the starting gate busting open at the beginning of a horse race. and then it becomes about big moments. we actually lived one this morning. these two maeve and preston were part of it. tell me about the scene. >> is there anything more surreal than leaving iowa before a snow storm, landing here at 4:00 a.m. airplanes stacked up against once another. hillary clinton's plane, the press plane, bernie sanders, everybody coming off at the same time. and who do we see but cuomo sitting there all dressed up saying hey how are you guys? but even more surreal is we didn't know what was going on. there was no wifi on the airplane. these planes were built way before wifi was invented.
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and we continue to know going on. and we have to sneak around for the other side of the hangar and get bernie sanders for an interview. >> and it was amazing he was still going. this morning. out there in the dark, talk to his people. >> preston lying in front of his suv faking an injury was very very helpful -- >> -- i think your pointed is really right. the strength of rubio is he ultimately can draw off cruz's strength. and the country at large in the general election is going to be asking who can lead us in this new america? in this 50/50 divide? who has the ability to do that kind of work in washington? ted cruz is letting everybody know he by design is not that guy. he's not there to get things done. he's there to stand on principle. and i think that message starts to hurt. but he can certainly occupy that very conservative wing for a while. >> is this a new field today, maeve. is it a more open field?
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>> it is. i think the race was completely reordered last night in the sense that donald trump has been such the dominant force the entire time. and look how little we've talked about him this morning and somehow he's going to have to come back and prove that he wasn't the loser last night. you have such an opportunity for marco rubio here. ted cruz has a lot to prove. it just once again feels like it is anyone's game. >> great. maeve, mark, david. thanks so much. >> and it could all happen again. in new hampshire you have a new set of players who may bubble up and become relevant, certainly on the gop side. >> getting more and more interesting. >> right? and on the democratic side you have a clear two-person race. and they want at each other more than ever because they know how close it is and guess what? they are going to get a chance right here on cnn as soon as tomorrow night. they are going to be taking questions. bernie sanders, hillary clinton, right from the presidential town hall in dairy new hampshire,
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joining the cnn brood on this election. you say hillary is the right candidate but in the polls yesterday, statistically dead heat. younger people, middle class people in iowa going for bernie sanders. what do you think the plus/minus is on the race and why it should be hillary clinton? >> well chris, i think we've seen a number of things just turned upside down in the results from last night and the build up to yesterday. first of all a fundamental principle, polls don't vote. people do. and we saw changes in the various polls. we know that iowa pretty much a tailor made state. senator clinton has taken this race. there is nothing in politics that we know of at least in america called a virtual tie. i think that is a diplomatic way
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of senator sanders saying we did come up short. you go back to the fundamentals for senator clinton. we has experience. that is what voters are looking for. she has the ground game, that is what you need to win an actual election. and she clearly is the person that voters believe can win in november and beat back the republicans from ripping up virtually everything that president obama has done. so iowa, that race is done. and now of course on to new hampshire, nevada, south carolina and then all of the march elections. by the end of march, p of the 10 largest states in the united states of america will have voted and this race will change pretty dynamically. >> point of order as we both know the iowa state party, the democratic party hasn't even called the race yet. that is how close. it it is literally a few tenth of a%. it is statistically a tie.
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you can see that as the plus or minus for clinton because as you are saying iowa is set up better for sanders. let me ask you about why. knowing philadelphia and knowing inner city socioeconomics so well, why do you think it senator sanders message about income inequality doesn't play as well with minority voters? >> whether it is minority voters or non minority voters, the fact of the matter is you are just going to always just in the interview you showed earlier, senator sanders no matter the question we're going to talk about breaking up the big badge banks, we're going to talk about broken campaign finance and rail against millionaires and billionaires. a person walking down the streets of philadelphia is not necessarily running down the street chanting about any one of those three things. it is still the fundamentals on the ground which play to secretary clinton's strengths. she knows about cities. she understands cities. she can talk about public safety
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and crime nationally and internationally. jobs. families. kids. education. poverty. reentry. all of these are the serious issues that people in philadelphia and in many cities all across the united states of america are really focused on and really care about. and so we find no matter what the question is to senator sanders, you are going back to one of those three fundamental issues. those are the issues that he raises. he's going right for the hearts of people. secretary clinton talks about the issues that are practical and are in the heads and minds of people on a daily basis. and that in essence is really what this contest is really all about. but to use a sports analogy, when we talk about winning and ties and all that, a team is going to win the super bowl this upcoming weekend. and even if you come one point close you don't get the trophy. at some point, you know, you have to walk off the field and there is an actual winner.
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senator clinton has won ultimate this iowa caucus and now we're moving on to new hampshire and the other races. >> the difference is obviously you have a domino effect working a little bit with elections. one race leads into the next. we'll see where the momentum takes this one into new hampshire and beyond. >> in the yam you have the kickoff and the rest of the game. no one is calling the game in the first five minutes. this was the start. there is a long campaign season to go. senator clinton gets stronger as the fight goes on because she's a fighter and talks to people about the issues they really care about on a day to day basis in their kitchens, on their streets in their community meetings. these are the kinds of things that people are talking b about. >> michael nutter thank you very much for the perspective. how do we know where the race stands beyond our understanding of what just happened? we're going break down what the
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hillary clinton declaring victory in iowa last night despite a razor thin margin while ted cruz defeating trump in the state. what's behind the numbers? and who came out to vote? john king joins us to see how it all played out and what lessons we take to new hampshire and beyond. good morning. >> alisyn and chris. good morning. time to count votes. iowa looks pretty lonely there. there is a a reminder it is just the first state to vote but a very important state. let's get a close look at the results here and talk about the republicans. let's start by giving ted cruz and this organization the credit they deserved. he was under withering attack in the final week on television. and look at that number, that is a record setting, record breaking vote total in iowa in a republican caucus.
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in fact the top three candidates all broke the previous record. so turnout was up. ted cruz over performing poll numbers with a mix of sophistication, and shoe leather. a network of evangelicals that brought him to victory. trump underperforming is the big conversation. he underperforms his polls. most candidates overperformed. that is one to thing look at into the new hampshire. and marco rubio won on the old romney map, anybody with a city in the suburbs in the des moines area and ted cruz again to his credit ran competitive in places where you think you have more moderate establishment republicans. they found every conservative and they turned them out. that is why ted cruz is your big winner today. the democratic race in iowa. this is as close as you get. the iowa democratic party tells us one more precinct yet report.
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it looks as the moment hillary clinton will win by a delegate or two out of the state of iowa. and then on to new hampshire. only one state but a very important state that has shaken up the race as we move forward. >> the maxwell smart margin. missed it by that much. what does it mean going on to new hampshire, john? >> sometimes new hampshire says thanks but no thanks to iowa. so let's see if the polling shifts. on the democratic side bernie sanders is way ahead in new hampshire. he's from neighboring vermont. let's see how it plays out. but hillary clinton's plan mainly is to sustain in new hampshire and then move on. i want to switch to republicans in new hampshire for a minute. pause if you go back in time. if you are ted cruz you win new hampshire?
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no evangelicals, so he doesn't have that but there are labortarians. the state motto is live free or die. so if you have trump, rubio, kasich, christie, splitting the vote. there a lane for ted cruz to have a strong performance in new hampshire? after his iowa victory especially now that we know how good his organization is? absolutely. keep an eye on that. as we go beyond new hampshire, the biggest role in the republican race is going to be settling monk all the establishment candidates. rubio says i'm the dominate now. trump has something to prove. he draws votes from the establishment but then what happens to bush kasich -- >> let's go there john. what happens when it shifts beyond new hampshire? >> let me change a little here and show you something.
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the demographics, starting with the democrats. this is the national african american population. let me shrink this down a little bit. after new hampshire up here,.5 comes up out west and everything else, you have south carolina and then we stay mostly in the south. there are other states that sprinkle in the in month of of march. look at the african american population. that is what hillary clinton thinks is her firewall. something else she hopes helps her. again, the darker the area, the higher the concentration of that electorate. you have more latino voters out in nevada as well. so hillary clinton is hoping as you get out predominantly white states she can win with the traditional democratic base. if bernie sanders continues to win, can he improve there? that is one thing. do not discount ted cruz on the
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republican side. iowa, a decent amount of evangelicals. new hampshire almost none. a bit tougher. but when we get to ouk and super tuesday and beyond, look how dark that is? we most of those are cruz voters and we know he's proven he knows how to identify them and turn them out. so if you want to stop ted cruz you better blunt his momentum before we get down here. >> so interesting. wive never seen it broken out into the demographics like that. >> interesting that factor plays so strongly on both sides of the race. we'll be tracking it. presidential candidates shifting focus of course from iowa to new hampshire. we're going break down the different challenges they face here in the granite state. the smallest pinch of pure mccormick can make meals legendary. we want to help you realize the rich taste that pure can bring.
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we are live. at the waterworks cafe here in manchester, new hampshire, the state where all the candidates are arriving today fresh off the iowa caucuses. ted cruz won for the republicans last night and hillary clinton says she won for the democrats though that is not exactly official yet. so what happens now? let's bring back david gregory. great to have you here this morning. what changed last night? >> i think the whole race changed last night. especially on the republican side. here was trump with this aura of ib vinceability. a man who brought up husband pole numbers at every stop in
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iowa. and now we're seeing it start to kick in. it is effectively a tie, but a very strong third for rubio. he's got momentum now. and now we test in a different kind of electorate where the republican race goes. i saw a guy with a make america great hat again. i wanted to buy it. and he wouldn't sell it to me. he made a point about where trump's strength is. which is people who want to see something different world health organization want to shake up the political order. people who are really listening to trump when talks about impact of trade on jobs and people left out of the economy and people who are afraid of foreigners coming into the country and taking their job. a nativist message, very fearful but it does resonate. >> if he wins big in new hampshire then i guess the deck is reshuffled again. or has something fundamentally changed last night?
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>> i think fundamentally changed is that marco rubio has becomes the establishment candidate. >> don't tell that to john kasich, chris christie. they think they will be the establishment candidate in new hampshire. >> all right. got a little intimidating there for a minute when you tole me. >> don't mention that. i don't know how young say that so definite live i after iowa. >> my view is that rubio outperformed in iowa. he was viewed as highly electable. he could attract social conservatives and more moderate republicans in a state like iowa. don't forget rubio comes of age as the tea party favorite. now he's seen as the mr. establishment. he can draw from ted cruz. the reality look, i think you are right. if you are jeb bush, kasich or christie. you are going to say new hampshire is my chance to take a stand and i'm going to go for it. and they are going to go for it. i think that helps trump here and hurts rubio. so we'll see how rubio does. i think that part has changed.
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i think trump is still formidable but he doesn't have the mystique. we're going to have now watch trump and see what he does after a loss. after really being pierced with all of his veneer and all of his showmanship, let's see what he can do. >> on the democratic side, razor thin margin between hillary and bernie. he says virtual tie. she says she's the winner. so who won? >> i think bernie sanders won. look i get it, a victory is a rick victory. i'm not trying to deny that. in this morning a great interview by chris with bernie sanders. he comes into new hampshire with momentum. let's be honest. hillary clinton lost in -- and gets all of that help from team obama and can't put him away. >> the flipside she did shake off the specter of a loss in
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iowa. she has narrowly won. >> she won and she can probably tighten it up in new hampshire. the reality is that sanders really doesn't have an act that can travel well. and unlikely 2008, hillary clinton is prepared to go the long haul. she can go and win this thing over time. trump, his negatives are very high. highest in the race. rubio has the highest positives in the race. has that race win knows those negatives become a real drag. >> you know what they say about new hampshire? don't take it for granite. you're welcome. great to have you with here with us this morning. will so called outsider candidates be able to hold onto the lead here in new hampshire? we'll explore that.
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good to have you both. so going into last night, not such a great night for jeb bush. what do you believe the story of the results were? >> i think you are right. it was not a good night for jeb. i was yesterday at his last event in des moines and i obviously knew he wasn't going to win. he knew he wasn't goin' to win. i will tell you i think the process in iowa made him a better candidate for new hampshire. i saw him in the last town haul. i haven't been in one for a while and i thought well gee he finally got the hang of this. he was very, very good. i think new hampshire is where his focus needs to be. where he needs to reboot. reset. refocus and leave it o all on the field. i think you are going to see the same from chris christie, from john kasich. they know this is their state where they have to fight it out. they were not fighting to win in iowa. they will be fighting in new hampshire. >> jeffrey let's talk about the big headline. and that is the polls were wrong. donald trump did not win iowa,
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he came in second. >> let's rephrase that. donald trump is a loser. >> you heard it. she is throwing down the gauntl gauntlet. >> i wondered how long it would take anna to go there. the answer is .2 seconds. >> so how do you spin it jeffrey. >> look he came in second he's never run for office. he was told don't go to iowa. he came in second. this is a guy who literally wrote a book called "never give up." i'm certain he'll be there in new hampshire today and he'll be back at it. i think donald trump has become a better candidate. he's getting very good at this. >> he's got uncommon hue middle la -- humility last night. very gracious. what does that speak to. >> the donald trump i know is a
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very gracious man. is a very caring man. so there it was on display for all to see last night. so this is what you do when you lose a race. you manfully stand up and acknowledge and move on. and the trump campaign has moved on. and i would add of course famously ronald reagan lost iowa and went on to win new hampshire. >> oh jeffrey let's get through one segment where you don't compare donald trump to ronald reagan, please. that man is turning over on his grave. i give donald trump a lot of credit. think about this. a man who called iowans stupid to their face. mocked communion and the most. said he would never ask god for forgiveness. married three times. affairs completely public. and still had no organization visible to the naked eye, we never saw it and still mapgd to come in second.
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i think what that tells you is donald trump may have a ceiling and he hit it last night. >> and marco rubio, he had a stronger showing than predicted. what's that mean for him? >> i think it means he tries to fight to portray himself as the establishment alternative to cruz and trump because make no mistake about it we dislike trump as much as we dislike cruz. i think yesterday for a lot of the establishment it was, you know, trump lost. hallelujah. cruz won, oh hell. now what? so people are going to be looking for an alternative at some point they are going to be looking for a unifying force for the establishment. marco is going to try to portray himself as that as the guy who the bridge the gap. but in new hampshire he's going to get competition that he did not get in iowa. >> so jeffrey what does trump need to do in new hampshire. the polls as suggested if not predictive have him up here by a healthy margin. >> it needs to be organized. you know, and a primary
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situation is different from a caucus. so we're sort of back in the mainstream here of how these things are decided at least in new hampshire and south carolina and some of these early states. so he needs to be organized. he needs to get up there. he needs to deliver his message. and he needs to get at it. and i have not the slightest doubt that he will do that. and, you know, to anna's point -- >> anna -- one second jeffrey. -- >> i think marco rubio -- >> [ inaudible ]. >> our thanks to water works cafe and manchester new hampshire. carol costello after this break. dad, you can just drop me off right here.
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