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exit polls and make a projection in this race for the white house. the polls close on the democratic side, the polls close on the republican side. we're getting closer right now. get ready. this is a moment a lot of people have been waiting for. let's go to it. and cnn projects that hillary clinton will win the mississippi democratic presidential primary. another win for hillary clinton in mississippi tonight. hillary clinton is the winner in mississippi. we also have a key race alert on the republican side right now. on the republican side, take a look another this. these are estimates based on our exit polls as of right now, donald trump is with 45% -- excuse me, 49% based on the exit poll. 36% ted cruz. marco rubio and john kasich, they're back at only 7% each. remember, these are exit polls. these exit polls are estimates based on our early survey of voters as they left their polling locations.
the final outcome may be different. we can expect, in fact, those numbers to change throughout the night, but those are the initial exit poll numbers we can share with you. we have projected hillary clinton is the winner in mississippi tonight. ic i want to go to jeff zeleny, our reporter in cleveland tonight, where the clinton headquarters are. i assume the folks behind you, they're going to get pretty happy once they hear we projected hillary clinton is the winner in mississippi, joe. >> reporter: they certainly are, wolf. that's going to happen here in just a couple minutes. there's a bit of a delay here with our cnn coverage. you'll be seeing here behind me momentarily when they cheer the win for mississippi. now, the clinton campaign has been looking for a win in mississippi. let's just watch here, wolf. we're going to watch you projecting it triright here beh me. the crowd will be cheering here like you said. just like clockwork here, 45 seconds delayed here in cleveland. wolf, the clinton campaign believes these mississippi votes will give them a margin, will give them a cushion if they need up in michigan. you can see the crowds behind me
here gathering in cleveland. there is a reason that show is in cleveland. there's a reason they are here in ohio. they believe ohio next week is a place that can put this race away potentially, but only if michigan goes well. there's still one hour left in michigan. the polls still open for one more hour. i just talked to a top democratic official in the state who's aligned with the clinton campaign who said they are still working to get out the vote. they're working in neighborhoods across detroit and flint to get more voters out there. a lot of times, you can get a lot of people to the polls in an hour. the clinton campaign is not giving in. they want to do well. if they win michigan tonight, wolf, this race is much, much closer to being her reaching the tips point to the nomination. wolf? >> she basically, all those states in the south, she has done really well in the south because in those democratic con tests, a huge percentage of the people who actually show up are african-americans. she does really well with minorities, with african-americans. as opposed to bernie sanders, not yet.
>> reporter: that's right, wolf. bernie sanders didn't campaign in mississippi, didn't go down to mississippi to campaign because they believe that their best bang for their buck as one adviser explained to me is staying in michigan, a place like michigan. they plan to fight for michigan as they've seen. also ohio, also illinois, and they will be going on to florida but that is a tough state for them as well here. so the sanders campaign really hoping for a good showing in michigan, but we'll find out in an hour or even more when the polls close in michigan, wolf. >> this is her 12th win so far coming into tonight, she had won 11 contests. >> reporter: right. >> i assume that some point we're going to be hearing from hillary clinton behind you, right? do we have any idea when she's going be speaking? >> reporter: we certainly are, wolf. she has arrived in cleveland, or is on her way to cleveland, i should say, and they are really keeping an eye on michigan. they may speak more closer to the time of when the michigan polls close. so maybe an hour or so. but, you know, she's monitoring this very carefully because as
we've said, an hour is a lot of time and they are not going to give anything up until they can work until that final minute in michigan. we'll definitely be hearing from her here at the kyahoga community college. cleveland symbolic, where the most democrat votes are in the state of ohio. that's why he'll be coming here tonight, coming here again saturday and again on tuesday i'm told really fighting hard in cleveland, wolf, to try and drive up that vote for the ohio primary, one week from tonight. wolf? >> ohio, florida, the states a week from today, they will be critically important as well. but we have to point out on the democratic side it's not winner take all, it's proportional. it's proportionate, if you will. so bernie sanders will emerge even if he loses some of these states, he'll emerge with delegates. >> reporter: he certainly will emerge with delegates and that's why this race is likely to go on and on. the democratic rules here, as we've known, as we kind of got a preview in 2008, it is all
proportional. that's different from republicans. republicans become winner take all next week. democrats are proportional all the way along. that's why bernie sanders believes he can and will, in fact, stay in until the convention. particularly because a lot of those big states come at the end of the calendar. california, new york, new jersey, some of the big states are coming at the end of this process which is much different than 2008. those big states were on super tuesday eight years ago during the clinton/obama fight. that's why bernie sanders believes he will stay in this race until the convention. he believes he has hundreds of delegates yet to win. the challenge here for the sanders campaign, wolf, is that the math gets very difficult for them. they have to start winning in big states and earning more delegates, not just a few delegates. so that's the challenge for the sanders campaign at this point. wolf? >> it's also increasingly more difficult because she has all those so-called superdelegates as well. jeff zeleny in cleveland with the hillary clinton campaign. you know, candana, david, a bign
for hillary clinton in mississippi. continues her sweep in the south. very impressive. we're going it see what happens in michigan. >> before we say anything else, that was impressive what jeff zeleny did, you could hear his voice, blasting behind him, it was a minute delay, he was talks to us and his own voice blasting and everybody cheering. i've been there. that was quite impressive. back to the results. the fact, as wolf just said, hillary clinton continues to do well, not just in the south but in states that have a very high african-american population, and berni bernie sanders tonight but he's not done well there and better in areas that are white. there's such a racial divide between the two candidates. >> there is, dana, and here's what's so important about how it relates to the delegate matt. this is what donna was talking about before. the way that the proportional delegate allocation system works is that the highest performing democratic areas which are
largely in states with big african-american populations, the african-american areas, they get a bigger basket of delegates to give out and allocate because they're high democratic performers. >> right. >> it's not just an, oh, bernie sanders is having a difficult with the african-american vote, end of sentence, and isn't that -- it is actually a blockade for him toward actually putting the math together that he needs for the nomination. if he doesn't start performing better with african-american voters, the math just gets tougher and tougher and we have some numbers now to point to how this went tonight. take a look. in mississippi. this is how hillary clinton won the state of mississippi tonight. among african-americans voters, take a look at that, she wins them 89%-11%. they made up 69% of the electorate today in mississippi. >> wow. >> take a look at senior citizens. i think this is someone of the untold stories of hillary clinton's success this cycle. she does really, really well with older voters 86% to 14%. they made up a fifth of the
democratic electorate down there in mississippi. and this one, the clinton campaign is just going to love. this shows you how strong her victory in mississippi is. she wins the honest and trustworthy vote 65%-34%. that's nearly 2-1 that she bets sanders on honest and thu trustworthy. wasn't the most important quality for democratic voters today but those who did say that by 2-1 gave their vote to hillary clinton. >> the reason why you're think they're going to be happy with that because in most states it's the opposite, the numbers are flipped. i think, wolf, what is interesting is i interviewed bernie sanders on sunday, asked him about the fact he is doing well with white voters, not so much with african-american voters. and his answer was, well, i'm doing better with young people, even young black voters, not so much with older voters and that's exactly what the exit polls are bearing out tonight in mississippi. >> historically older americans vote in much bigger percentages than younger americans. i assume that's continuing right now.
all right, guys. thanks very much. anderson, another impressive win for hillary clinton, this time in mississippi. >> no doubt about it. and david and gloria, it's interesting because we saw in south carolina the clinton firewall among african-american voters really rise for the first time. the question was would it sustain itself all way through the southern states? and mississippi, i mean, that's an extraordinary turnout among african-american voters for this county. >> it's unbelievable. i would also say, though, that hillary clinton is winning over half of the white vote, and in the south she has won on sort of south of the mason d-dixon line. her share of white voters has more than half in seven states. you can't just portray this as victory for her among african-americans, although that is her key base. she's winning with white voters -- >> david, the map we're showing up there on the right hand side of the screen on the upper right corner, that way, it really gives you a sense of that southern swing for hillary clinton. >> yeah, absolutely.
but we should say the african-american community is not just a base for hillary clinton, it's a base for the democratic party. if you have no inroads into that -- into that community, it's very hard to be the nominee of the party and this is what bernie sanders is running into. as you look ahead to the states next week, a quarte of the vote in illinois will be african-american. large minority vote in florida. large minority vote in north carolina. these are big delegate-producing states and as donna and david mentioned, the african-american districts are the ones that have the largest number of delegates. it's really hard to see how bernie sanders actually becomes the nominee of the democratic party without picking that lot. it's one of the reasons she's far ahead in pledged delegates. >> nia, it's interesting because bernie sanders after iowa and new hampshire, there was a lot of talk about him reaching out to the african-american community, there were some very high-profile african-americans who came out in support of bernie sanders. and yet, the numbers are not holding up at all. >> they're not holding up. they're not improving.
i think the first sort of sign of that was with south carolina. >> right. >> i think even the hillary clinton campaign was shocked at how well they did vis-a-vis bernie sanders with the african-american vote. where he goes from here, given the fact that he's done an hbc tour, he's got high-profile surrogates like cornell west and nina turner and killer mike, what does he do going forward? >> a key race alert. i want to go to wolf blitzer for that. >> anderson, here's our key race alert. in michigan right now, polls have closed in some parts of the state. 1% of the vote is now in. take a look at this. look how close it is. only 1% of the vote is in. john kasich and donald trump neck and neck. 35.8% for john kasich. 35% for donald trump. only 51 votes ahead. ted cruz at 19.3%. marco rubio in fourth place, 7.8%. very, very early, but so far, neck and neck between the ohio governor and donald trump. on the democratic side, in michigans, once again, very, very early, bernie sanders with
52.2%. hillary clinton with 47.1%. 395 votes ahead for bernie sanders. we're sharing these numbers with our viewers right now even though all the polls in michigan don't close. there are some central time zone areas where all the polls in michigan will close but they have released these numbers officially in michigan, anderson, and i wanted to share them with our viewers. >> wolf, thanks very much. it's interests, being we had john kasich on i think an hour or so ago, he said he felt very comfort about michigan, he thought they were going to do well. he wouldn't actually say whether it would be second, he didn't suggest first place. certainly the numbers, again, they're early numbers, tiny percent of the vote in are encouraging for kasich even if he doesn't beat donald trump. just that conversation. >> look, it's less than 1% so we can't jump to a conclusion there, but it seems to be he's ov overperforming in gn begumichig. mississippi, if trump is going to win by double digits, i think
that's the key to unlocking florida. florida votes as if it's three different states. northern florida votes like georgia, alabama, mississippi. trump won georgia by 20, alabama by 13. if he wins mississippi by double dig digits, he's going to dominate in pensacola. a little bit of a mix of michig michigan, southern florida, broward and dade county is very, very unique, we'll talk about that later in the cuban population. marco rubio is going to have trouble with the cuban population. something very, very specific -- i'm from broward county, i can talk about this, marco rubio misrepresented his biography running for office as a young man. that still lingers. i think you're going to see him underperform in southern florida. if trump wins northern and central and can do well in southern, i don't see how he doesn't win on the 15th. >> to go back to michigan off our latest news in that poll, michigan is so interesting for donald trump. i lived in michigan in the '90s and he has a long, complicated
history in detroit which we're going to see play out tonight. back in the '80s he considered building in detroit eventually passed. back in the '90s he considered builds a casino in michigan, passed. he speaks glowingly about detroit and was very bullish on its recovery. counter that with the way he has spoken about autoworkers recently in that state. just last year in august he basically said that michigan these to close up some plants, some auto plants, bring them to other states where they pay workers less. basically telling autoworkers to take a pay cut in michigan. i don't think that went over well. you're going to see this state render its decision on all of that tonight with donald trump. >> but on trade, and we saw the exit poll numbers from the voters who would say they believe trade hurts american jobs, that's a message donald trump has been hammering home and is actually pretty close to bernie sanders on that speaking
against nafta. even in a general election if he's against secretary clinton -- >> that's another -- >> secretary clinton is going to argue the same thing she's been arguing against bernie sanders and we're going to see a continuation of this. >> yes, it's another, you know, complicating but very, very interesting piece of the michigan puzzle and why michigan, i think, is really, really important for trump and obviously for kasich as well, but i think we'll learn a lot about how some of trump's messaging has been playing out when we get michigan's decision. >> i just hope everybody gets a screen shot of kasich over trump for now. >> at least we hope his family does. >> do you want to take a picture with your camera? >> i'll get my phone out. that was really, really cool. i don't think that's going to hold. >> on the other hand -- >> i agree. you look at marco rubio at 7 .8%, it's not likely he's going have a good night in michigan. and there are big implications to that. you know, he started -- >> by the way, it's now 3% of the vote in. >> it's early. >> well, you know, there's certain things that you can
deduce from all of this. one of them is he isn't going to have a very good night here. you think about how this whole assault on donald trump began with marco rubio on that debate stage, and you might say tonight he looks like the hands-down loser in all of that. get the hands reference? >> there seems to be this kind of kamikaze effect. >> i got it. >> thank you. >> a kamikaze effect in this election. chris christie takes on rubio. he then collapses, but, you know, maybe trump benefits. i don't know who benefited from that. the person who goes hard, you can sometimes knock somebody else down but you knock yourself out. >> i think he wounded marco rubio. i think -- >> without a question. >> never been perceived in the same way because the issue is, is there any there there? and from the moment that christie said there you go again, you're repeating it for the fifth time, you started to wonder is there substance? >> it didn't help christie. >> he's gone. >> in other words, whoever does these devastating attacks, christie does the attack and
disappears. i think rubio actually did some damage to trump, but now he's about to disappear. >> he followed up with what looked like open mike night at the frat house for the next several days after that. i think it twhal dactually dimi him in a way that hurt him. guy who benefited from this is ted cruz, wisely hung back and let rubio do all the dirty work. >> john kasich who continue -- to not attack -- >> john kasich has spent a lot of time in michigan doing these town hall meetings. the same kind of meetings he did in -- >> new hampshire. >> i'm not surprised that he's picking up just a little bit of gas because here's a state that is tailor made for the kind of message that he's bringing to the republican party. >> already a good night for hillary clinton in mississippi. now we're counting down to when the polls close in michigan. as you saw, early indications show a very tight race for democrats and republicans. stick right here to our special live coverage. see me. see me. don't stare at me. see me.
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big win for hillary clinton in mississippi tonight. let's get a key race alert right now. in michigan right now, 3% of the republican vote is now in. look at how close it is between donald trump and john kasich. donald trump ahead by only 152 votes. 35.6% for trump. kasich at 35.3%. ted cruz in third place with 18.8%. marco rubio in fourth place, 7.8%. remember, 3% of the vote still a small number. those are actual votes in michigan. on the democratic side, bigger percentage of vote is now in. 12% and bernie sanders maintaining his lead. just changed a little bit. 51.9% for bernie sanders in michigan. hillary clinton with 47.1%. he's got a lead right now, 4,704 votes. 12% of the vote is in in michigan. i want to go over to john king over here at the magic wall. let's talk about michigan first and foremost. very close right now.
12% of the vote is in, but you're looking where that vote is and a lot of vote outstanding. >> early sanders lead. 12% of the vote. senator sanders happy with the early results have him up. what do we have so far? look at the state including up here the upper peninsula, not that much of the vote in but we're getting some vote in the urban areas in the droit suburbs. this is oakland county. getting out into the suburbs. so-called reagan democrats live out here. 52%-47% so far. 0%. just the first vote starting to come in oakland county. come down here to wayne county, this is the big ball game here, 18% of the population. you have the african-american center in detroit. some of the suburbs as you get out here. car country, auto country in here as well as the suburbs. senator sanders, again, at 0%. got just a few precincts in. see 187-157 votes. early results coming in for bernie sanders. what are we looking for? detroit, grand rapids, kalamazoo. for the democratic primary, most places we're going to look for, ann arbor, university, and detroit in the suburbs here is where the bulk of your vote will come in.
we'll watch it play out. let's flip over to the republican side. doesn't get much closer than that. very close early orange again, just 3% of the vote in. trump up a little bit. ted cruz running third. marco rubio well behind in third. only 3% of the vote. look at it filling in, let's come to wayne county, again, look at detroit, trump leading at the moment. again, just a handful of votes there. couple hundred votes when you add them up. move into the suburbs. oakland county. a big republican area right here. you look pretty split right there, again, very early results. as you look. i want to go back in time and show you, remember, gn begmichi mitt romney had a run for his money from rick santorum in 2012. santorum getting the conservative votes up here, also in the western part of the state, grand rapids, good conservative pocket there. this is something we'll keep an eye on tonight. look back at this history, santorum came in, did well with evangelicals and switched his message to blue collar economic appeal. gave mitt romney a run for his money, surprised him in the state of michigan. if you look at the santorum
vote, come forward and think about the race this year, this will play out. more candidates competitive in the race than we think, anyway. we'll see what cruz does. if you're going to see a cruz comeback it will be up here and over here to the west trump and kasich fighting in the suburbs and trump and rubio fight in other states >> still very early on the republican side and the democratic side but close contest in michigan so far on both. anderson, back to you. >> thanks very much. david axelrod, you run campaigns, know michigan well. too early to tell anything, or -- >> on the democratic side? >> yeah. >> you know, i think that this figures to be a close race because bernie sanders has made some inroads with working-class whites and there are a lot of them in michigan, but -- >> do you think he's been able to do that on trade issues? is that particularly -- >> well, i think those trade issues are important, you know, but he's been -- i think just generally the whole issue of income inequality of the rigged system is one that resonates with these voters who really feel it in their lives. but, again, you know, when we
see detroit roll in, i think that that gives her a real beachhead that's going to be hard for him to overcome. hard to say. but the fact that he's struggling here, and that she may win this state is probably better news for her than it is for him. >> and on the republican side, john kasich has found -- we were talks to him an hour or so allege, he was saying how much time he has spent there. >> lived there. he said he should pay taxes there. he didn't predict he would win, but i think what he needs to do in michigan if he can't beat donald trump there is come in a very good second. if he comes in a very good second in michigan, it portends very well for him in his home state of ohio where he has a 70% approval rating, winner take all. we all know that. and it's important for him because he hasn't been anywhere except for new hampshire, right? so we -- he needs -- >> where he also should pay taxes. >> right. that's right. and he's had the same strategy
as you point out going all along. this is so important for him because it will show the progress that he has made in his campaign and he's run a very different campaign from everybody else, but he needs, i think, to beat cruz here, and we'll just see. you know, it's very close, obviously. >> it's a hard business, you know, because these are the optics of presidential politics. >> right. >> you can be a point aininto td or a point into second and everybody will give you a win or a loss. >> i mean a good second. >> no, i agree with you. i think it's important for him to finish second to trump here. >> trouncing rubio who according to these early polls is way down. >> he kind of makes the -- >> michael? >> i was going to say, big picture tonight to come back to where we are i think is can donald trump get to 1,237? he needs to win michigan teeing up ohio and florida. if kasich can dent him there, he's more likely to win ohio and take trump off that track which
i think then means we hobble along all the way to cleveland. >> if trump doesn't do well in michigan or comes in in second even, it does continue that conversation of are the attacks against trump, all this money that's pouring in against him, the ads that have been run, are they having an impact? >> i think there's something huge happening in michigan tonight. i think john kasich won himself on the ticket because the key to november for republicans is through the industrial midwest. and the fact that john kasich can perform there is huge for donald trump, but kasich cannot perform anywhere outside of a place where he doesn't camp out for two months and that's a huge problem for john kasich, plus he's still going to be after tonight last in the delegate count. so there's no real path forward for him except the vice presidency. and i think this makes it a lot more likely. i think trump is going to get to 1,237. i look at the math. if he's just shy, the deal that will be made, i hate to use that word because donald trump will have won it with the voters will be a trump/kasich ticket. >> what makes you think kasich will take that deal? that's contrary to kasich's
brand. >> kasich, i think kasich has been playing for vp this entire time which is why you have not seen him take a swing at anyone else. >> it's a good argument. >> because he wants to be -- he's a very attractive vp candidate. >> a number of debates, he has, i mean, been handed up on a silver platter an opportunity to talk a swing at donald trump or even to say that donald trump is wrong on something and he hasn't done it. >> or any of them. and i don't know that he would take a trump ticket, but, and i don't know that he's been thinking about trump, per se. i think he's been thinking about everyone from the start that he is going to be a very attractive vp candidate. i also agree with andy, even if he wins tonight in michigan, or comes in second, and then let's say he wins ohio, these still are just, like, drop in the bucket delegates for kasich. i don't think his rust belt revolution is a real thing. i think right now he's basically playing spoiler and vp. >> we -- i want to toss it back to wolf, our conversation will continue in a minute.
wo wolf? >> stand by. i want to go to brianna keilar at sanders headquarters in miami right now with jeff weaver, the bernie sanders campaign manager. brianna, not a good night for bernie sanders in mississippi but it looks like a pretty good night in michigan. >> reporter: no, that's exactly right. i am here with jeff weaver, bernie sanders' campaign manager. i think you were resigned to the result in louisiana but you're looking at what's happening in michigan. not too much reporting yet but obviously it's good so far. how key is this? >> well, look, we were down 30 points not long ago. saw public polls last week that had us down 20 points, 30 points. he finished very, very strong. we'll see how it turns out. it's obviously going to be very close in michigan one way or the other. i think his debate performance despite the pundits was well received in michigan on substance. i think he scored all the points. and i think, frankly, secretary clinton's negative false attack which has been exposed over and over again in various media on the auto rescue really backfired on her because i think, you know, i think you have to be very careful, rightly or wrongly, she has perceived to
not always have the most authenticity and to launch a negative attack that's shown to be false i think is really devastating. >> reporter: so we're seeing 15% reporting at this point. bernie sanders with a bit of a lead here. do you think that will hold? >> it's hard to know. i don't know where the results are coming in from. i'll talk to my people and see where i think they're come in from. it's difficult to know this early. >> reporter: you're pivoting now and you're here in florida. >> yes. >> reporter: to these series of contests that we're going to see in a week. what is important for sanders to do in order to really make up some ground? >> right, well, look, so the 15th we got 5 very important states. it's very important in these states that we hold our own in terms of delegates because after president 15th, the calendar changes radically in our direction. the second half of this primary and caucus process season, much heavily tipped in our favor. >> reporter: why is that? why do you feel like it's tipped in your favor? >> well, look, secretary clinton was first lady of arkansas for years and years, over a decade. she has a lot of strong
relationships in the south. she's very popular there. all the southern states were front loaded, right? so after the 15th there are no more southern states. if you look at the states that bernie sanders is winning by double digits, some cases by 30 points up north, a lot more states that look like that. >> reporter: jeff weaver with the bernie sanders campaign. thank you so much. back to you guys. >> brianna, thanks so much. he has a smile on his face right now seeing the results coming in from michigan. so far we've made one projection. hillary clinton is the winner in mississippi. at the top of the hour, we might be able to make another projection. stand by. much more of our coverage coming up right after this. life as spokesbox is great. people love me for saving them over half a grand when they switch to progressive. so i'm dabbling in new ventures. it was board-game night with the dalai lama.
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the vote is now in. donald trump expanding his lead, 37.5% to john kasich, the ohio governor, with 29.8%. that just changed. ted cruz in third place with 20.5%. marco rubio in fourth place 8.5%. once again, 12% of the vote is now in in michigan. we'll see what we can do at the top of the hour. on the democratic side, 18% of the vote is in, and bernie sanders maintains his lead over hillary clinton. 51.4% to 47.2%. he's got a lead right now, bernie sanders, of 6,266, 18% of the vote is in. still plenty of votes outstanding. just changed, by the way, in michigan, 20% of the vote is in. bernie sanders getting a little closer, 50.6% for sanders, 47.8% for hillary clinton. a difference of about 4,400 votes. i want to go to sara murray, she's our kor spocorrespondent g the trump campaign in jupiter,
florida. right now. the crowd is going to get a little bit bigger behind you. good news for donald trump, we projected he's the winner in mississippi. >> reporter: wolf, that's absolutely right. it's good news for donald trump. what it also tells you is that even in the face of this barrage of attacks that have been hitting donald trump, he is still managing to notch these victories. now, of course, you know mississippi is a state that awards delegates proportionally. we're waiting to see where all this shakes out. no doubt this is a good night for trump. i think a couple things worked to his favor in that state. one is, of course, his immigration message. this has been a cornerstone of his campaign. this has rallied voters to his side. the other thing in talking to voters in mississippi just looking at how the crowd responded, people really liked there his call to ban muslims, at least temporarily, from coming into the country. there's a certain sense that that was really resonating with voters. these are not necessarily the traditional republican messages you might think that a candidate would go to a state like mississippi with, but it clearly is something that worked out for donald trump tonight, wolf.
>> sara murray, thanks very much. i know that donald trump is going to at a news conference and delivering a speech there. we'll, of course, have live coverage of that, dana and david, good nights in mississippi for both trump and hillary clinton. >> that's right. and, again, we've talked about this, david, in many different election nights past, but a billionaire from new york who tells it like it is, doesn't speak southern, if you will, winning in mississippi. >> because he's speaking to where the voters are -- >> exactly. that's exactly right. >> on a whole host of issues. the republican primary voters -- his message is clearly resonating. this is a big victory. we were able to project it pretty early. it's funny to see, also, a similar pattern to hillary clinton. they're doing well in the same region of the country. >> that's true. yeah. >> which is interesting to see as well. >> to be fair, donald trump is doing well in every region. >> that's true. that is true. >> but, you know, i was down in mississippi two years ago when there was a big republican -- intra-republican fight.
the incumbent senator, thad cochran, was fighting for his life against an insurgent republican, so republicans down there shouldn't be surprised that somebody like donald trump with that kind of message is winning. what is our exit polling telling us about exactly how trump won? >> let's first start talking an the evangelical voters we talked about before. take a look at this. trump wins them. 45% of evangelical voters in mississippi go for trump. 40% for cruz. we looked at the nonevangelical voters and he wins them overwhelmingly. this was 76 % of the electorate and wins them by five points. now take a look at this. the angry electorate we told you how angry the electorate was before, 40% say they're angry. trump wins them going away. 57% to cruz's 33% to rubio at 6%. and then how about the 58% of voters who want an outsider? this is trump's base, basically. 65% of them want trump. 27% want cruz. 4%, rubio. you know, for ted cruz who made
his entire time in washington with the label, outsider, he is not winning that outsider vote. nearly six in ten voters who went to the polls want an outsider and trump wins them by 40 points, he gets -- he is winning that angry outsider electorate, the folks that are just so pissed off at washington and want nothing to do with anyone who's attached to it. that is what the electorate is screaming for basically in a place like mississippi tonight and trump is answering their call. >> that's right, and ted cruz really thought that he was going to be that guy without anticipating that donald trump would be the one to come up and, wolf, two to any trump rally and the number-one thing that pretty much every voter there will say is, we like him because he's not a politician. period. end of story. that just showed up tonight in mississippi again. >> you hear that all the time. that's an important, important factor. guys, thanks very much. i want to go to john king over at the magic wall. john, michigan, mississippi, we know the winners, trump and
hillary clinton, but michigan it's close right now. look at this. 21% of the vote is now in in michigan. bernie sanders with 50.2%. hillary clinton 48.1%. that's a significant number so far. >> up to 21%, that's a very close race. the gap has closed a little bit. what are we waiting for most of all? we're waiting for wayne county where we have 0% officially. see that a little over 3 00 votes there. bernie sanders leading in the early returns but this is the african-american heart of the state. this is where hillary clinton expects to do very well. but senator sanders leading in that county as we begin the count right there. detroit in the suburbs out this way, anyone you move up into oakland county, again, part of the big part of the auto industry and the industrial base of the state. pretty close right there so far, right? >> big chunk of the vote is in there. >> half of oakland county is in. an important county in the state. a good chunk of population. more than 12%. very close race. competitive in oakland county. move over here, mccomb county is the county we spent so much time on in the 1990s, where bill clinton's pollster greenberg did studies of so-called reagan democrats, crossover voters who
voted for ronald reagan, democrats, blue collar work who are voted for ronald reagan. the democratic party studied them very clearly. hillary clinton with a decent lead right now, only 4% as we watch this play out. here, blue collar workers, that has been the struggle in the race. she's up by a decent margin in mccomb county. they're fighting in oakland county. i want to pop up here and see if anymore votes are coming in. genesee county, the home of flint. we have zero results yet. flint is in this county, where they have the big debate, obviously where withdryou have national tragedy of the water crisis. pull out now to look statewide, up to 22% right now, senator sanders holding that narrow lead. a lot to wait for. wait for detroit and rural counties up here. fewer votes up here for the democrats but if it's a close race, they all count. we'll take a look. let's switch to the republican side real quick. 15% in. trump starting to pull away a bit. only 15%. plenty of time to catch up. cruz in third place. kasich, you see marco rubio down there in single digits. tough night for marco rubio so far if you look at the results.
what's happening here, again, if you look at the areas around detroit, john kasich says he's the blue collar guy from ohio who understands midwestern workers. right now, donald trump beating him narrowly in oakland county, mccomb county very early results, only 4%, beating him quite convincingly in mccomb county. saying he can make trump democrats in the land where we had reagan democrats, more affluent suburbs here, santa clara county, winning by a decent, healthy margin. start to see the map fill in. if you're donald trump, you're happy with that. for obvious rchbeasons. ted cruz winning in capital ma zoo, a narrow margin. another place to look, grand rapids. nothing in there yet. more kvbtive votes in the nosh part of the state. trump starting to inch ahead. only 15%. we have counting to do. >> kasich if he comes in second, that bodes well next week for ohio, his home state, maybe illinois which is next week as well. stand by. we're going to keep checking in what's going on. in michigan, we know the winners. we projected the winners in
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we've got a key race alert, want to update you right now in michigan on the republican side, look at this, 16% of the vote is now in. that's significant. donald trump has the lead. 37.9% over john cases kasich 28.8%. john kasich, 6,600. ted cruz in third place, 20.9%. marco rubio just in fourth place right now with 8.9%. 16% of the vote is in on the republican side. trump is ahead. let's see what happens over there. on the democratic side, it's a lot closer than a lot of people thought it would be. a quarter of the vote is now in, and bernie sanders and hillary clinton, they are neck and neck right now. look at this. 49.9% for bernie sanders. 48.2% for hillary clinton.
that's a difference of only 3,260 votes. that's a slight lead for bernie sanders. still lots of votes outstanding, but it's very, very close. you can see how close it is in michigan right now on the democratic side. on the republican side, donald trump has the lead, but only 17% of the vote is in. anderson? >> david axelrod, when you look at those michigan numbers particularly for the democrats, are you surprised at how well sanders is doing, and do you think, i mean, to jeff weaver's point from the sanders campaign, we just heard from a moment ago, he was saying he thought hillary clinton attacking bernie sanders on the auto bailout at the debate hurt her. >> well, i don't know whether it hurt her or not. i do think it was, in my view, it was kind of a cheep shot because he voted against the bailout for banks from which some funds were used to help the auto industry and so he was clearly registering his disapproval of the bailout of the banks, and i thought it was a little too cute.
i really don't think that's what made the difference, and if you look at these exit polls, it looks like the late deciders basically split evenly, so it doesn't really support that. i just think this, given the demographics of the state and the way these races have been going, this figured to be a fairly close race because he does have some support -- not some, he's shown support among working class whites. you see the same age divides in all these states where he does fantastically well among young people. she does very well among older people. more older people vote. i mean, the dynamics aren't terribly surprising. here's the deal, though. time is running out. "the chicago tribune" had a poll today that had in the illinois primary for next week hillary clinton up 67-25. averaging a lead in florida, 21-point lead in ohio, 18-point lead in north carolina and the same in missouri. so this is really a critical moment for bernie sanders. a win here would have been a really big help for him, but --
>> i don't know how it all plays out mathematically, but i do know there's been a fight inside the bernie sanders camp. there have been kind of two different points of view. one is go hard on hillary, be mercilesses, vet her, hit her with everything. people don't like her. she can't win. other people say, listen, you are bernie sanders, you're somebody, we love you because of the elevation of your message. when hillary did that cheap shot and tries to pretend that he was somehow against the autoworkers, it gave a lot of energy to the people, said, see, we should have never thrown back, should have thrown the kitchen sink at her. i think she's got to be very careful because she does have to bring the party back together. she doesn't have to do stuff like that to win. she's on the pathway to win. has to think about the long term. she has to pull these folks back together. >> another bait tomorrdebate to. it will be interesting to see how sanders -- the natural thing is happening, you go down the road in the campaigns, even if you have things in common, candidates get grouchy, begin to
dislike each other, campaigns begin to dislike each other. bernie sanders has to feel an urgency, pull something off in the next few days. if he loses the big states next tuesday, it's going to be hard with proportional representation, proportional delegates to win. >> michael? >> the constant in the internals i'm seeing in these states and the prior states nats have voted is this solid support that she enjoys among african-americans. earlier there was conversation here as to what can he do to make up that ground? shy of immediately joining the administration and becoming barack obama's secretary of state, nothing. i think that she is being rewarded. she's being rewarded by people of color for the support that she has given this president for the duration. >> loyalty. >> the loyalty over two terms. >> it's extraordinary i haven't been involved in the race 2008 to see this thing unfold. it's the mirror image of this race. i've said this before, barack obama has become her firewall. her relationship with him.
she has relationships in that community. i agree with what michael said. i think she's being rewarded for coming after that bitter race, supporting him, joining the administration, becoming a teammate of barack obama. >> seven out of ten voters in the exit polls show that they would like the next president, the next democratic president, sorry, s.e., the next democratic president to continue to protect and preserve and expand upon the policies of barack obama. he's a very popular figure within the democratic party. i'm not surprised that hillary clinton is out there talks about the things that she supports. because african-american supporters back the president. you know, i want to go back to the delegate math. i want to be a little -- you know, don't let me show you all may hands. but, you knows, bernie sanders, you got to win these big states and got to win in the cities. meaning hillary clinton understands you got to put together a diverse coalition. she's doing that. that's why she's doing well in these states. but in a few weeks we have hawaii, idaho, some of the states that you republicans like to hold a little early.
we democrats wait until the end of march madness. and bernie sanders, i believe, washington state, will try to accrue more delegates. here come april. april is another big bonanza for democrats. if bernie is not able to put together the coalition now in march, going to be very difficult you get to new york and pennsylvania and the remaining states because the math won't change. >> are you saying we have to wait for april for things to clarify? >> i'm sorry, i know -- >> every few weeks people say it's going to clarify next week, next week. >> i think it will be -- >> anderson, you can get that tan finally. >> good luck with that. >> not just about the math, though, for bernie sanders. bernie sanders has had a huge impact on hillary clinton and on this democratic race because half of the things that they're talking about now i don't think they would have been talking about if it hadn't been for bernie sanders and to a degree elizabeth warren and that group within the democratic party that is growing more and more powerful. so whether or not bernie sanders
wins, he's going to have a real presence at the convention. >> the other thing that's interesting, she says he is a single-issue candidate. then all of her -- a lot of her issues are -- if he is a single-issue candidate, it's because she stole all his issues and left him -- >> also, nia, i think we talked about this before, he has made her a bet candidate, a lot of her supporters believe. >> if you look at some of the ads she has been running in michigan over this last week, we remember her tagline has been "i'm with her." there are a couple that are running where the tagline is "she's with us." so she is realizing that this idea that this is a candidacy that was all about her initially, she is now -- this is about other folks. >> it is so interesting, we see this every election cycle, but how the race, itself, i mean, this marathon that it is, it is does make all the candidates better. think about donald trump never having been in debates before, he's a better debater maybe, you know, whatever you think -- whatever you think of his most
recent ones or whatever you think of him, he has certainly gotten better as a debater. >> "g" to "pg" to "r." >> it does make all these candidates -- it usually makes them better. the ones who don't are the ones who fall away. >> it's so interesting, van talked about on our side van talked about all the kamikazes. chris christie goes after rubio and sort of a suicide missions. well, there are also the conscientious objectors in the beginning who decided, you know, i don't want any part of this really. i thought i did, thinking of scott walker who got out early, who really, i think, read this election well. they know how long this takes. they know how nasty it was going to get. they saw the writing on the wall and they thought, this is not going to make me a better person throughout -- >> he may also have read the polls which saw him go from top to bottom. >> but there were 17 people, really anything could have happened. i think really astute, you know, people like scott walker and
rick perry saw this is not -- this process is not going to be good for me. i'm not going to get better through this process. >> it's interesting the kamikazes as you call them. kamikazes knew they were kamikazes. none of these ones seem to have known it. they're all sort of accidental. >> he was on his way out and he's going to take one last swing. >> you think? >> he was on his way out because marco rubio's superpac ran millions of dollars of negative ads against him in new hampshire. >> that's how it goes. >> you think jeb knew when jeb bush was attacking donald trump that it was a suicide mission? i don't -- >> i don't think he did. >> i don't think so. >> mr. trump understood the mood of the republican electorate. he understood that they felt -- they feel betrayed. they feel like the republicans have not paying attention, don't respect them. you have to give donald trump credit for understanding that mood and tapping into it. >> i think the theory -- >> i'm giving you. >> i appreciate it. thanks for handing -- i think the theory is maybe there was no path for any of the other candidates. no matter if rubio behaved
outlandishly like the past week or was the prim and proper rubio of the past few months. this may be donald trump's time, it looks like when you win michigan and mississippi in the same night, the republican party wants donald trump. they said it very clearly. no matter what anybody else tries to do -- >> say the voters. say the voters. >> the voters. the voters. >> she's teaching me. >> the interesting thing to me, though, about donald trump is did he know ahead of time that there was this anger out there that he could -- or did he -- or his instincts so finely attuned that he gets out there and starts to sense it? >> i truly believe that when he looks at barack obama and the people he's surrounded with, he sees economic incompetence and national security incompetence and he is running personally to do the job that none of these other mitt romney, john mccain, could do. that is the way he looks at it. >> michael? >> i have to say this, i acknowledge that there's great discontent in the country because my real job is to answer the telephone for three hours a day on a radio program and take
calls from all across the country. >> and by the way, today is the second anniversary of your debut of your show on cnn. so congratulations. >> congratulations. >> something else happened two years ago today, it was the claim unfortunately still not found. i want to make this observation about donald trump, giving him the credit for having seized upon this opportunity that he knew the country was angry. he's fomented this anger, the guy going around on the campaign trail with a hat that says "make america great again." he's perpetuating this notion that america is not a great place. i know we're not doing great in the nation, but he's stirred the pot. that's what i want to say. >> i disagree. look, the idea that right now economically people are struggling isn't a donald trump concept. there's a reason why people are angry because wages haven't risen in the past ten years. they're worried about the middle east and isis attacks. we've seen san bernardino. this isn't like trump is fomenting fake subjects. >> if the data -- >> this is very real. >> if the data points today were the same and mitt romney had been elected, people would say, see, all we needed to do was get
rid of barack obama, we would have 5% unemployment, we'd have a stock market that's this robust. all these -- >> $2 gas. >> subjective of a turnaround -- >> the middle east is completely out of control. that is barack obama's fault. mitt romney couldn't do the job donald trump is going to do. >> trump absolutely deserves some credit here on a number of fronts but he's also benefited from having a lot of people in this race and he benefited -- i don't know if this was intentional -- but he benefited unintentionally from some rules changes that the party made before this election in order to correct from a perceived weakness of the 2012 election. i don't know if donald trump and his campaign guys took a look at that and said we might have an opening here or happened to sort of wander into a race that was perfectly candidate for him. but there's a lot going on and when we do the autopsy of 2016 -- >> oh, no. >> -- there's going to be a lot to look at. >> it's early for the autopsy. one thing andy, i know you were picking vice presidents before,
maybe it will be cabinet members before the end of the night. >> yeah. >> but before you do, take a look at these national polls because donald trump is becomig more and more unpopular within the republican party. he's much less popular with the overall republican -- >> look at this past summer. this pastor summ summer he was unelectable and now -- >> i'm looking at the data now. making a clinical point. more republicans have an unfavorable view of him -- >> that will change, when we come together, that will change. historically, sometimes the times make the candidate. abraham lincoln lost the senate race in 1858 and won the presidency in 1860. this is donald trump's time. >> we got to take -- actually let's go back to wolf near the top of the hour. >> anderson, thanks very much. we're getting ready for the top of the hour. so far we've made two projections so far in mississippi hillary clinton is the democratic primary winner in mississippi. donald trump is the republican primary winner in mississippi. but now all eyes are on michigan right now. michigan, all of the polls in michigan are about to close. there were some polls that were
still open, but the voting has been coming in. significant numbers have already been reported. we can share with you what's going on in michigan right now on both the democratic and republican side. here's a cnn key race alert right now. we can't make a projection in michigan right now on either the republican or the democratic side, but we can tell you that on the republican side, 21% of the vote in michigan is in, and donald trump maintains his lead. he's at 38% to john kasich's 26.4%. ted cruz, 22.1%. marco rubio distant fourth with only 9%. once again, 21% of the vote is in in michigan. trump has the lead of 36,954. just changed. that lead with 21% of the vote in in michigan. i want to go to -- i want to -- first of all, make, go to michigan, stay in michigan on the democratic side 30r. 30% of the vote is