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good evening, breaking news tonight, you just saw our town hall with john kasich and his family. this is a special edition of "cnn tonight," i am don lemon. the primaries are days away, with 95 republican delegates up for grabs, the stakes are high.
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did governor kasich change anyone's mind tonight? did he? or will he be a spoiler? those are two important questions. so let's discuss now with my political dream team, here they are, first up, mr. michael nutter, the former mayor of philadelphia. and a hillary clinton supporter. also cnn political commentator kaylee is with us, shees a trump supporter. mark presston is here. and kelly ann conway, the president of the keep one promise, keep promise one, whew, that's a long name, super pac supporter ted cruz, and joining me is congressman charlie dent. and you're going to have to yell when you want to get in. i can guarantee you this is going to be a rockous group. i am going to start with you, how do you think john kasich did tonight? >> great. who didn't like this idea of seeing his family, daughters, personable, it was an intimate look as a man, father, husband,
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and that's what you want to see in all of these political candidates. i think in other years that tends to be important. you want to have a beer with the guy you're going to vote for. this year, not so much, this year because of the anger, the economic situation, i think you have a little bit different sentiment in the electorate. it's an important element to be able to see in your -- and the character of the candidate that you're voting for. >> now charlie, how do you think your candidate did? >> oh, i think governor kasich came off very well tonight. he's a very regular guy. wonderful family, by the way, he speaks english with a pittsburgh accent, i'll have you know. he spent the first 18 years of life in pennsylvania. mckeys rocks, i think his tone played well. i thought it was a wonderful representation of john kasich, ohio, and ohio values. and he'll be a great president. >> i thought it was interesting to see him with his family. you get to see a different side. it softened him a bit, don't you think? >> no doubt. we saw governor kasich in a light that we haven't necessarily seen him. some of us here on panel get to
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see the politicians when they let their guard down or certainly with their family and really unscripted moments, but tonight, when you have him sitting next to his wife sitting next to his daughters and they're talking about their boyfriends, the girls boyfriends and -- >> the driveway with a gun. >> right. >> and then the girls giving it back to him. i think that's really important because we've gone through so many different levels of -- this is where he stands own this policy, this is where he stands on this policy, i think the voters want to see something else. they want to see the person inside. >> what stood out to you tonight? >> voters ask themselves two questions, i do like you? that's the classic living room task. i think the kasich family passes that with flying colors. second question is are you like me? they want to know that the candidates have that connect ifz tissue within. what do we have in common? that's a really difficult question for many of the candidates to answer. some that have stumble on the that question really are already a part of the graveyard, the
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political graveyard, what stood out is this is a beautiful family and the measure of a man who he is at home and you saw that in john kasich. it's too little too late in converting voters. because he's just not doing well among republican primary voters. he's got 14% of the vote in wisconsin. he's only won his home state of ohio. converting goodwill into actual votes that the point when people want to win, they want to know who the nominee is and they want to win against hillary clinton in the fall. falls short on that, it was a lovely opportunity to see the kasich family. >> did he clang hearts and minds tonight. kaylee, i want yo tow listen to this exchange. >> one of cruz's mission delegates is suggesting your auditioning to be trump's vice president, trump in an interview said he likes you, he likes marco rubio and named you in a list of people. he might even consider for vice president. >> you're asking me if i would be his vice president? >> would you? >> zero. >> absolutely not? >> nobody's vice president.
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i would be the worst vice president. you know why because i'm not like a vice president. i'm a president. >> you don't want to be the second fiddle. >> it's not so much about that, anderson, look, i'm running for the top job. and if i don't get the top job, i'm still governor of ohio. you know, mayor kotch ran for governor of new york and they asked him what he thought. he said, i may not be governor of new york, but i'm mayor of new york city, and that ain't bad. and so, i will be governor and then that's what'll happen. i'm not even thinking that way because i do believe at the end of theday, and our crowds are growing. we were in greece, new york, 4,000 people on saturday. for the first time, penople are starting to finally hear the message that i have and we're growing. i'm optimistic going forward. >> so it is that a real no? do you think he's running to be trump's vice president? >> i mean, how many times have we heard this from every politician denied they ever want to be vice president? the fact is anyone running for
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president is never going to say yea, i want to be vice president. but i will say this about john kasich, any candidate that is running for president would be lucky and blessed to have a man like john kasich as their running mate. someone to deliver ohio, tremendous character and strength. well-liked. i think trump could be honored having him as vp, i think cruz would be, whoever the nominee is would be honored to have someone like john kasich db. >> he's saying no, people think he's the most reliable and steady candidate in the race. do you agree with that? >> you know, john kasich is a governor. he did, of course, win his state. he's certainly not as outrageous at times as to the other candidates in the republican race you have to take him seriously. >> but he hasn't won a delegate since march 15th, he is in fourth place in the delegate count following marco rubio, the question is though, is he still relevant in this race? >> real question is, is anybody
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not it? >> go ahead, charlie. >> absolutely. the governor is very much in the game. i don't believe any one of these candidates is going to receive 1,237 delegates prior to going into cleveland. we're going to have an open convention. what you saw tonight from governor kasich is everybody in the panel says boy, isn't he a nice guy? seems like a solid individual to be proud to be associated with him. the american people feel that way about him. look at all the candidates running for president, they're all under water. just the ap poll, ted cruz and donald trump are very high in the negatives even higher than hillary clinton, john kasich is the only one who is viewed more favorably than unfavorably by the american public. ly tell you, john kasich can go into that convention and make a very strong case. because ted cruz is not going to be able to get the majority of delegates going into cleveland -- >> okay public. >> trump has a clans. i don't think he'll get that. >> i want to the bring anderson
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cooper. he moderated. you had tough questions tonight. you challenged him a couple issues that we're discussing now. what did you make much john kasich's answers? >> look, i don't think we necessarily heard anything new from john kasich. he's been, you know, early on, talking about that this is going to go to a contested convention. he maintains that, you know, on a second vote or third voert or even later on when delegates try to figure out who can beat hillary clinton in the opinion, john kasich, he's the one they will turn to. the question is will delegates pick somebody who's only actually won one state and that was his home state. i think this was more a chance for people to see the family together. >> anderson, let's listen to your exchange with him about that particular issue. here it is. >> why would a delegate pick you if the only state you've won is ohio? >> let's see how many delegates we accumulate, but why would you pick somebody who can't win in the fall? let me tell you what the stakes are, i believe if you pick these other guys, you're not only
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going to lose the white house, you'll lose the court, you will lose united states senate, and you're going to lose a lot of seats -- >> why can't ted cruz win? >> they're too divisive and negatives. look at that negative ratings. it's hard to turn negatives around, believe me. >> he hasn't won a lot, he's counting, sounds like he's counting on a brokered convention. >> no doubt. he's been open about that. now we're hearing senator cruz saying for the first time publicly that's what it's going to end up being. john kasich has been saying that for quite some time. i've done interviews where he's talking about. is he right that they would turn to him given that so far he's only won ohio? he says, wait until you see what the delegate count is going to the convention. >> yeah. you have done a few of those town halls. as i was sitting here in my office watching you. there's a different feel when you have the candidate's families up on stage with you. >> yeah, and that was the goal tonight. there's plenty of time to have
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contentious interviews with all the candidates. and you know, we wanted to have ten minutes at the top, and wie going to have that with donald trump and ted cruz as well to put the news of the day and questions of the day and challenge them on topics. with the families, we want to just kind of see the dynamic of the family. and that's something that, you know, a lot of voters like to see and a lot of frankly people get to see in town halls that aren't televised in various states, particularly like new hampshire and ohio iowa, a lot of times voters don't get to the see that. let's do this, put our invitations to everybody. donald trump's agreed first and everybody else agreed as well. so we're looking to the vest of them. >> speaking of donald trump, his wife melania will be there tomorrow. let's see, ivanka, donald jr., and eric. people get to see him sometimes with his family and out and about with wife. you don't get to see a lot of them. do you think we'll get to see a different side? >> i have no idea what to
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expect. i try not to prediction. all predictions have been off this year anyway. but i do think when somebody is on, you know, donald trump has repeatedly said, and i've interviewed melania who says she's been critical of donald trump for the language, telling him to be more presidential, we've heard that ivanka said the same thing, donald trump said that publicly. so it'll billion interesting once they're all on the stage together to see the dynamic of how they interact, to see how they interact as a family. and i think that's something a lot of viewers seem to like. >> yeah, she's different with his family, anderson, you've noticed that a little bit, at least. then i don't know if he follows their advice, he doesn't always act that presidential. all right. thank you, anderson. i appreciate it. back with me now, my political dream team, you'll agree, kaylee, he doesn't always act like presidential as melania would like him to. >> he's had to apologize for one of those things withes, the retweet of heidi. you need a woman's advice to
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stay away from the retweet. >> as anderson is talking about, you know, not getting the number of delegates and having some delegates come over to him. everyone in the room is going wait a minute, i want to get on that. >> well, hoping that something different is going to happen at a convention, just can't be a strategy. i mean, candidates should be as optimistic as possible, but there's no way in the world that when he announced, when he started that the vision was we're just going to hang in there and suddenly something magical is going to happen at a convention -- >> contested convention. >> and they're going to pick me. >> i agree. and he's not doing well, but governor kasich is not doing well getting delegates at the conventions we're having now. it's ted cruz who has the infrastructure, the apparatus in north dakota, in colorado, he got all 30, swept all 35 delegates. >> let's see how he does in new york though.
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these are states that predisposed. >> we're talking about conventions. how can you show that you can perform at the convention if you can't perform in colorado. >> what's junior best -- your best answer? >> well, let me say this, if we're going to say that the person who had the most delegates going into the convention should be the republican nominee, than dwight eisenhower wouldn't be the president, neither would abraham lincoln, that is my argument. ted cruz is a very divisive figure. let's face it, so is donald trump. we're seeing large numbers in the polls of republicans who will not vote for either donald trump or ted cruz. i've seen as high as 30 to 40%. read today's wall street journal -- >> stop lumping them together. >> is that -- >> but i'm telling you. >> is that what happens at the convention? they're deciding on delegates. not the popular vote. >> the delegates, but the delegates are going to be series people. they're going to get there, they're going to see that on the first ballot, no one has a majority.
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>> the voters in every state has not been serious people? >> the role of the delegates is to nominate the most electable candidate of good character. and if they look at that issue, they will support john kasich. how did dwight eisenhower defeat bob taft. i ne >> i need to get to a break. mark is rearing to get in. everyone is on this particular issue. we'll be right back. don't go anywhere. (burke) at farmers, we've seen almost everything,
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governor john kasich and family taking part in cnn's town hall tonight. new york primary just days away and polls show kasich running a distant second to donald trump, but beating ted cruz. back with me now my political dream team. welcome back, everyone, this idea of electability and delegates, you wanted to get in on that, what did you want to say? >> we're going to hear tonight some spirited arguments tweenl the cruz supporters and the trump supporters about whether john kasich should stay in or get out. or you know, what you do, going to run for vice president. john kasich is hoping that donald trump and ted cruz destroy one another. and that he becomes the savior in cleveland that calms everything down, lowers the temperature and comes out in the establishment, which has fielded to get behind him and will get behind him. here's the thing about john casing, even though he says he doesn't want to be vice president, he would be a hard person to be vice president, he has to be the boss. the fact is he's from ohio, he's
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well-liked, he did win his state, and he's a smart guy, and if he's going to be your vice president, much like joe biden on the issue of foreign policy, could you imagine having john kasich wanting omb. >> and his political future will be tied to cruz or trump? >> i think that until you're asked, that is a very difficult question to answer. >> there's a part b to kasich's play book that we should highlight. kasich could become the king maker in all of this. he has 100 something delegates, many he has hand-picked, these are people that the kasich campaign has that are loyal to them and like wise loyal to these guys. in the event that trump is shy of the delegate count or cruz is trying to build up delegates, he takes on an important role. he has a lot of delegates that are loyal to them. maybe to trump, maybe there's an agreement -- >> we've been talking a lot about likability, right, with
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the two candidates? ted cruz and donald trump. their likability tobacco tar is not -- >> republicans don't like him. >> no? republicans do like him, but when they look at polls about the electorate to beat hillary, that's not true. i know the kasich supporters like to lump trump and cruz together. since mr. trump, particularly among women have been skyrocketing in the last three weeks. number two, you like somebody who you don't know because you -- but he's undefined and unknown. don, in the night of the iowa caucuses, he was in new hampshire, came in third by the way. on the night of the wisconsin primary he was in new york. he was not even in the state fully competing. >> no, but if he can't, if he's not competing in most states, and he's only won one, most people don't know him, so you only hear from -- >> let's hear from a kasich
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supporter. >> the whole reason he should stay in, if you're a never trumper. if you're a never trumper, your point is to keep the lid on donald trump's delegate math. you don't him to get over 50% in all of these congressional districts. get over 15%. and the congressional districts, that is the argument for him to stay in then he has the delegates at the convention. by the way marco rubio at this point has more delegates than john kasich. >> yes, he does. go ahead, charlie. >> look, some of us actually want to win the presidency. when you look at how john kasich performs in swing states, in ohio, he's defeating hillary clinton by over 20 points, in pennsylvania, he was defeating her by 16 points. in wisconsin, it was about nine
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points. in new hampshire, ten points, he performed very well in the states where the republicans must play. oi hate to say this, but let's face it, donald trump's negatives are sky high and ted cruz's aren't that much better. i mean, he was i think ted cruz was in the ap poll, 59% unfavorable -- >> why's he beating kasich everywhere? >> not in the general election -- >> excuse me, congressman -- >> let's listen to the candidate tonight talking about the fall and talking about general election. and then we'll continue to discuss. listen to this. >> why would i be the only one to beat hillary in the fall what why do all the polls show that? i'm a person that tries to unite people. we're an american before republican and democrat. i can attract a blue collar voters and the independents and why? because i have a history of being able to solve the problems
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of economic insecurity, putting, putting things in place to make sure our children can have a better life than we had from our parents, and i have the expertise in foreign affairs as well been you put that altogether, and that's a darn good resume for fixing the country and i think people get a sense of that. >> open primaries and kau uses, he did not carry blue collar workers or independents. donald trump and ted cruz has been beating hinl in open primaries in the republican -- >> something to be said about getting the heart and soul of the party. take all these pieces together and a majority. a party has a heart and has theories and policies. and the problem with kasich. >> here's the problem, the problem is, the republican party
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has only won popular vote five of the last six national presidential elections. nominating the general election. >> nominate moderates. >> you know what, kelly ann, that's the kind of thing a ted cruz nomination -- >> mitt romney, john mccain, how'd that work out? >> we'll lose. and then the -- >> honestly admit that it has broken the republican party and it is not a viable political force anymore. >> i'm sorry other people's -- >> charlie dent, go ahead. >> look, look, let's face it, john kasich has the ability to pick up votes from independents and many democrats. we should acknowledge that. ted cruz has spent much of his time in congress, blasting guys, like me, calling them surrenders, capitulators,
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because we understand the circumstances of the political dynamic. he has, he's called a surrender caucus, capitulators, betrayal because we realize we have to govern and get things done. john kasich understands that. he'll work with us. with respect, john kasich is in many ways a center right conservative. >> this sounds personal, is it personal between you -- is it personal between you and cruz? >> well, look -- well senator cruz, he's got 98 out of 100 senators who seem to dislike him to varying degrees, that's quite an accomplishment. shutting down the government, i thought that was a terrible thing to do. it was bad for the country, it was bad for the party, it was wrong that he did that. and you know, john kasich is more of an adult. he wants to governor, and he understands he has to work not only with republicans, but also democrats to help move an agenda. >> i have to get to a break. everybody hold on. i know you want to cut in, we'll get you in on the other side of the break. we'll continue our conversation right after this.
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next week's republican primary in new york, 95
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delegates are up for grabs, donald trump is leading, but john kasich is campaigning hard to win some of those delegates here in new york. back with me now, my political dream team, let me ask you this, you said it was unfair to say that people didn't like ted cruz and you said that's the reality, people don't like ted cruz. >> i don't think it's heavily disputed, besides kelly ann would, it's well known ted cruz is not a generally liked person, i think the other side is that people aren't voting this election because of who they like, there are real reasons of washington, insider crowd, this notion that wanting people from the outside the system and also sort of this strong man appeal that donald trump has, washington doesn't work, you need a strong guy to shake it up. none of these things are motivating this trump phenomenon and this never trump phenomenon. >> then how do you get people? you have to win people over. win delegates over, people in the party, how do you get that to happen?
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>> ted cruz is doing it well. he's outorganized, he's gone to all of these state caucuses and state conventions and done the work. by the way, he has codified the never trump people. a lot of people are voting for ted cruz. >> pick a candidate. very small. >> they go to the convention. they pick who they want, and that's why you see the same delegates every four years. >> that's right. >> ts same people, every four years. >> you can perform well at the convention at the open contested convention in cleveland is how you're performing at these conventions now. and that is all cruz. margaret even admits it, she thinks i'm the only person in the world that likes ted cruz. >> personally. >> you don't like ted cruz? >> because i actually try to look at the real person, not their caricatures, besides that, the way to prove you can do well in cleveland is that you're doing well now. ted cruz went into colorado and took all 35 delegates. john kasich said --
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>> i want to hear john kasich talk about the rules, let's listen to that. >> you've been saying for a long time honestly in your belief, it's going to come down to a convention. >> senator cruz is now kind of publicly admitting that as well. he was talking about that today on the campaign trail. one of the things he has said to me in the past is he's talking about rule 40, rule 40, which was on the books at the convention back in 2012 requires a candidate to have won the majority of delegates in eight states in order to be nominated, cruz says you're not even going to be eligible to get the nomination. >> look, i can just tell you this, he spent a million dollars making stuff up about me in wisconsin. of course he's going to say that. >> are you going to change the rules? >> there are no rules. the rules will get set and you just mentioned in michigan, the committeers got set better. i think the rules will be open. and even if they're not, i'm going in there with significant delegat delegates, i don't think that's going to happen. i don't think the people are going to want a closed
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convention, they're going to want to give the delegates freedom. >> your opponents will say if the rules aren't changed, it's a wasted vote. >> it isn't, you can't accumulate delegates at that god created pundits to make astrologers look accurate. the pundits haven't anything, so, you know, i'm not going to go down that road. we're going to be fine. we are just going to continue to develop momentum, get bigger crowds, get delegates and go to that convention and make the ca case. >> so the rules are the rules. reince priebus. >> town hall tonight and the rules were set last year.
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>> go ahead. >> let's just be clear about which rules he's talking about. rnc convention the week before the convention. the rules committee is 100 people, one man, one woman, plus the mothers, and they are going to set the rules. that was set last time by romney and rand paul voters prp do you know why? rand paul -- >> i'm sorry, ron paul. >> couldn't control the deleg e delegates on the floor. he couldn't keep them from having a vote on the convention floor. we have to have eight states so that mitt romney will be the guy on the ticket and not ron paul. this year, could be entirely different, or they could keep it. the problem is, kasich doesn't have enough people on the committee to change that rule in the favor. >> go ahead.
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>> what do you say to that, charlie? >> what do i say to that? agree with everything margaret said. i don't believe we have rules yet. the only rule that matters is getting 1,237 votes. that 40 b was established to keep ron paul from somehow worming his way in. that was the whole point, but we're going to -- i think the rules can be changed, we have is to establish the rules. margaret's right about that, kasich had a big victory in michigan the other day in terms of shutting out ted cruz and getting people keeping committee spots out there, so, we're working at this. we're working our delegates. and i feel very strongly. >> if you have two rule fights on the floor of this convention, they never have rules fights. it's so yoled. last time there was one. >> rules are made in an effort from colorado for instance, there was supposed to be a vote
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of the people. there was last time around. we don't like what our people said. people to vote, so when cruz won those delegates, he didn't win them because the people said they wanted cruz, he won them because they lobbied and jockeyed. >> learn the rules, and then -- >> well kelly ann said that, in the sense that those rules were made back in august -- >> when trump was leading and carson was leading. >> they're learnening the rules. this isn't fair. you're stealing, it's called sore loser. >> you have donald trump who is going to have quote unquote the will of the people. they're going to be angry, and they're going to show up in cleveland and it's going to be very, very messy. and then you're going to have the rules that are going to stay in tact an whatever comes out of the rules the nominee will come from, it's going to be -- >> stick around everyone, much more on the town hall tonight, we'll be right back.
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back with me now, my political dream team. we've all come to the agreement -- >> no, no. >> said no. the rules can be crafted any way they want certain can'ts. ron paul is trying to take advantage of the rules. they can be crafted to stop ron paul. if they don't like people -- >> rules or stakes it is a national set of rules. each state has their own rules. that's what happens in colorado. >> there are two sets of rules, there are the rules that oregon the primary process and that is what chairman priebus was says and then there are the rules of how you get nominate chd will be addressed the week before the convention. it's usually quiet to watch television in the summer and it is going to be very loud to watch television this summer. >> super delegate. >> i am. >> those elusive super delegates. >> all ready to go. the one thing and i generally try to make my business not to disagree with members of congress, but you know,
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congressman mentioned now that governor kasich will beat hillary clinton in pennsylvania. i can assure you that the governor will not beat hillary clinton in pennsylvania. >> charlie. >> my good friend, oh my good friend the mayor -- >> it's coming right now. >> i disagree. i respectfully disagree. and by the way, philadelphia is a great city. my wife was there with anderson coop oren saturday night. john kasich's tone, style, temperament played well in the collar counties of philadelphia, lehigh valley and i guarantee, he'll win the team. >> i think as we all know, pennsylvania often purple for a while, closes blue, you look at the results from the last two presidential races, it's clear as democrats we will do well. >> i want to talk about the issues. i want to talk about the issues, this is john kasich talks about
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same-sex marriage, listen. >> i'm a traditional marriage guy, okay, i believe a man and a woman. but, i went home one day, i said sweetie, we been invited to a gay wedding, this was after the court. i said what do you think. she said i'm going, i don't know if you are or not. and we went and look, here's the thing, we may disagree with something about people's lifestyles, we may disagree, but you know what, let's try understand each other a little bit. what are we going to do, write a law? this thing they did in mississippi where apparently you can deny somebody service because they're gay. what the hell are we doing in this country. i mean look, i may not appreciate a certain lifestyle or even approve of it, but that doesn't mean i have to go write and law and try to figure out how to have another wedge issue. because one of the thing that's happening on this issue itself is that there are politicians that are using it to get
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publicity, which ultimately divides us. we had a supreme court ruling, and you know what, let's move on. let's move on from where we are. [ applause ] >> does that jive with the average republican voter in the primary? >> here's what it does, i'm so glad you asked. because i've done some polling on specifically that answer when the supreme court same-sex marriage came down and 53% of republican primary voters said, while we don't agree with the supreme court's ruling for same-sex marriage, we do believe it is time for the country to move forward. they don't believe in a constitutional amendment to overturn the supreme court decision, they don't believe in litigated and make it a we think issue. >> what's happening in north carolina and mississippi with all these crazy laws -- >> i'm happy to tell you what's happening. i work on these issues. you have a conservative legitimate who got in, passed a bill in the dark of night without anybody knowing what's going to happen and the bill it turns out has caused significant loss of funds for the date. and by the way, there are very
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strong republican leaders who will be coming out in the coming weeks aing this bill has to be repealed and fixed. >> it's not fair to lump together all the state bills into one category. they're all different. however, what -- >> north carolina or mississippi are viable. they are both draconian laws. >> you have to left me finish speaking. but what is not viable is sflart cruz's option of the state openly rebelling against the supreme court. who as a constitutional scholar thinks that it is a good idea for the states to rebel against the supreme court when they say this is the law of the band. >> there is strong republican support for nondiscrimination laws based on sexual orientation. i worked with margaret on this issue. the country is evolving, demographically and socially. john kasich clearly stated that. >> so why don't we hear about it? strong support, why don't you hear about that? >> this is a really big
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chance -- >> charlie, go ahead -- charlie, why don't we hear about that? >> why don't we hear about republican support for nondiscrimination laws? >> i believe many do. you had votes on discrimination in the house and the measures have passed. granted the democrats vote much more overwhelming than republicans do for it, but there is republican support for it'll continue. i've been working with margaret and other leaders on this issue in the house because we believe it's the right thing to do and nobody should be discriminated against based on sexual orientation. and absolutely, this is where i get concerned about senator cruz, frankly, i think he's taken more of an absolutist hard ideological view which is not in step with much of the country is, and many republican voters particularly younger republican voters. >> you say there are no republicans who are in favor, but 66 republicans in the house of representatives taken votes affirming the rights and freedoms of lgbt people. we don't talk about it, don, but
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there are -- >> senator cruz, let me say something, this is a real change, margaret, from your boss george w. bush in 2004, in ohio, making sure traditional marriage is on the ballot in ohio and the american turnout got 60%. that's fine, but i think we have to cut through the things here. that's correct, however, the reason john kasich can't beat hillary clinton in the fall on issues, is he's too much like obamacare, he's too much like guns, you can't be -- we saw that with mitt romney and john mccain. >> what about the wedge issues? >> we need somebody who's different. >> i have to get to a break. i have to get to a break. you're yelling at me and the voices in my head. we'll be right back. don't go anywhere.
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humorous side. and if you have any stories along the lines. >> he just tries to tell jokes that he thinks are funny, but, they're mostly just funny to us because they're dumb. >> spoken like every 16-year-old child about a parent. >> and he also thinks he's a really good dancer. >> uh-oh. >> north south. >> that's exactly right. >> north south, that's his move. >> you've got to go north and south. you have to go north south -- >> wow. >> yeah, yeah, it's very -- and i'm really, really good. i'm just kidding. >> just ask him -- i've gotten better. >> yeah, but you're not going to go on "dancing with the stars." >> it's funny though when you're a kid -- i remember my dad used to sing loudly at church, it just mortified me. >> how dare they perpetuate that
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white men can't dance? >> wow, you ticked me off. >> listen, this is why this was so important tonight and i think it's going to be important over the next couple of nights, right? i'm a father, i absolutely tried to embarrass my ten-year-old and my 11-year-old, i am very successful at it, okay. i do a good job. more importantly, it showed that john kasich is a goofy dad just like everyone else is in america and we will hear from his wife in a little bit, and she was a superstar tonight. so when we looked beyond the candidate on their policy positions and talked about this at the top, you're actually seeing someone who's human and i've got to tell you what, the breakout stars are the girls. they spoke like every 16-year-old. >> they are like the family next door. >> 16 or 21, in the break, my daughter called me from cuba where she and friends are saying, saw you on tv, we're looking at don lemon, and she
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would say, many of the same things that governor kasich's daughters said about jokes, dancing, and other -- >> that was my daughter. >> charlie, go ahead. >> i was saying that when i heard the girls say that about their dad, jokes not being funny. that's what my daughter says to me. she's 21, i have a 20-year-old son and a 16-year-old, those are mie kids. that's what they say about me. dad, you embarrass me, we love you, but you stand in the corner. >> further away from the entrance, please. when they were little, right to the front door. when they're targes, you're in the house. i can drive you there, no, no. you stay right here. >> you can't take them on the campaign trail. >> i told the boyfriends -- >> here's what happens now. especially if you're a new york city kid, you have the driver or the uber, so it doesn't matter. mom and dad -- >> raise them in the suburbs. >> i want to make a point, 24 straight years of just daughters in the white house, three presidents, and its been really cool to watch.
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this is cnn tonight, i'm don lemon. republicans and democrats out on the campaign trail tonight fighting for each and every vote. >> this is a campaign which in the last cnn national poll was ahead of trump by 20 points. >> a lot of what you're hearing from trump and cruz is not only offensive, it's dangerous. >> take a look at bernie sanders, okay, you can have him, i don't want him. i don't want him. but take a look at bernie sanders, running against, you talk about liars, i think hillary might be worse than ted. >> donald has been yelling and scream i screaming, a lot


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