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lemon. republicans and democrats out on the campaign trail tonight fighting for each and every vote. >> this is a campaign which in the last cnn national poll was ahead of trump by 20 points. >> a lot of what you're hearing from trump and cruz is not only offensive, it's dangerous. >> take a look at bernie sanders, okay, you can have him, i don't want him. i don't want him. but take a look at bernie sanders, running against, you talk about liars, i think hillary might be worse than ted. >> donald has been yelling and scream i screaming, a lot of whining, i'm
sure some cursing, and some late night fever tweeting. >> and meanwhile, john kasich right here on cnn, along with his family answering some tough questions in our town hall tonight. >> do you need to up your game in terms of reaching out to delegates? >> we're reaching out, anderson, all over. and it's a bizarre process. i'm not really in the middle of it because i, i've got to prepare for people like you and i get out and do town halls and all the things that i do, yes, we have -- >> do you need to focus more? >> yes, that's what we are focussing on. >> why would a delegate pick you if the only state you've won is ohio? >> let's see how many we accumulate, why would you pick somebody who can't win in the fall? let me tell you the stakes. if you pick these other guys, you're not only going to lose the white house, you'll lose the court, you'll lose the united states senate and a lot -- >> why can't ted cruz win?
>> they're too divisive and negative. their necessaritive ratings. it's very hard to turn negatives around. >> one of the cruz's michigan delegates is you're auditioning to be vice president. he likes you, likes marco rubio, and kind of named you in a list of people, might even consider for vice president. >> you're asking me if i would be his vice president? >> would you? >> zero, zero, i'm not anybody's vice president. build the worst vice president want country ever saw, you know why? i'm not like a vice president. i'm a president. >> our goal is to beat hillary, i think. so wouldn't you pick somebody to beat hillary rather than somebody who loses all the time. wouldn't you also want to pick somebody who has the record and accomplishment to be president? that's not a radical idea. >> we're going to hear more from john kasich. let's bring in sarah murder in the third are in albany, new york, and she is in ir vine,
california now. i want to start with you in the cruz campaign. donald trump and surrogates have been accusing him of buying delegates and using to how would you react? >> senator, don, in his campaign are pushing back hard on the allegations and casting it instead is donald trump trying to distract what his failures to organization and to learn the complicated delegate rules in this process. we really saw senator cruz really lay into that hard today on the campaign trail on donald trump, bringing up specifically colorado where the cruz campaign was able to scoop up all of those delegates over the weekend. and ted cruz just moments ago in san diego brought that up again after repeatedly doing some today on the campaign trail and he said look, just check out donald trump's response to all of that. here's what he had to say.
>> look, as we know in the state of california, wine is something best served with cheese. and donald has this very odd thing, so colorado, he's been on tv all day long, saying colorado was terrible, they stole the election. donald, 65,000 people voted in the state of colorado, they just didn't vote for you, they voted for our campaign. or to put it more simply, donald, it ain't stealing when the voters vote against you. and reclaiming sanity. >> ted cruz there really mocking and taunting donald trump's reactions to cruz also starting
on his official twitter account tonight, the hashtag, whining is not winning. so clearly really trying to capitalize on this moment. >> we're just eight days away from a new york primary, 95 delegates at stake, what's cruz doing in california? >> that is a very good question because it's primary here and california is not for months, it is the last primary on the calendar, not until june, so clearly ted cruz kind of looking ahead, holding his first big rally here today, he said, you know, california could be pivotal. he told the voters that they could have an important role in term determining the nominee of the party. but certainly the cruz campaign being on california turf today of all days, really is intended to not only send a message that yes, they are looking ahead and in for the long haul, but also to try to broadcast and put on display their organizational muscle, the fact that they are already on the ground here in california.
that intended clearly to draw a big contrast with other campaigns. what's he telling his supporters tonight? >> a number of his primaries, he's leading in the delegate count, but in this behind the scenes wholie in whiling and de. the things that happen in colorado, the things that happen in louisiana where you're selecting these delegates, the trump campaign has not been strong. listen to what he had to say tonight. >> it's a corrupt system. it's a totally corrupt, rigged system. you know, i give the example, in louisiana, which i was not supposed to win, in louisiana, i went there, i campaigned for
four or five days, we had rallies just like this, thousands and thousands of people, i end up winning louisiana, and then when everything is done, i find out i get less dell gaits than this guy that the go his ass kicked, give me a break. really disgusting. so it's a very sick system and i'll tell you what, maybe in addition to winning, maybe we'll clean up the system so that in future years, we can have an honest contest, we might be able to clean up this dirty, rotten, disgusting system. >> despite donald trump's colorful language there, he won narrowly over in louisiana. the reality is ted cruz is more organized on the ground there, and if it does come to a second ballot, he could be in a better position. to win with 1,237 here's the
latest polls, this is a fox news poll. trump with a double digit lead in new york, and in pennsylvania, but he is still complaining about ted cruz, what's donald trump saying tonight about this delegate fight? >> well, i think the reality is that the trump campaign and donald trump know it's going to be a narrow path to get to 1,237. yes, he is leading in new york, they want to get all 95 delegates here, that's a tough they think to do. the other thing is when you get to pennsylvania, ian if he's leading in the public opinion polls, a number of those delegates are unbound. they are going to have to get better about winning over these unbound delegates, many of whom who will be party advocates. not the people that donald trump has endeared himself to over the course of this campaign. and i think that's really the sort of recalibration. they are trying to figure out what can we do to get to 1,237 by the time we get to cleveland. part of the message is saying
look, this process is unfair, pick the nominee who wins the most votes and hope that you can continue to encourage people to show up at the polls for you and that'll make enough of a difference that you can essentially convince them that they should be on your team, that's what the people want by the time you get to cleveland. >> thanks to both of you, appreciate that. here they are. my political dream team. they need no introduction, except for one guy, he's trying to talk right now. can i introduce you please, michael nutter, the former mayor of philadelphia, kaylee and who is also a trump support. mark preston, margaret hoover and bob beckle, the guy who's trying to talk over everyone. and president of -- i'm trying to introduce someone. a super pac supporting ted cruz. what, what? >> one for every state. >> you heard donald trump saying
this is a dirty, rotten process, do you agree? >> that's why i said that. it's going to get real dirty. >> they spent more time on tv this week learning the rules. they should learn the rules. >> this delegate process is so unfair, and nbc did a really good analysis about this. trump has won 45% of the delegates in this entire process, but he's only won 37% of the popular vote. this delegate math situation is actually benefitting him. okay. so i mean, so it's not all that unfair. he does have to get smarter about the rules. >> extremely unfair, here's the thing, as sarah reported, most delegates, many are local party leaders, they are republican party people, and i wish the republican party would pay attention to cnn exit polls. >> trump has a crushing lead,
54%, kasich 21, cruz, 18, same poll shows 69%, mark, primary voters think whoever has the most delegates going to the convention, should get the nomination. do you think republicans across the board agree with that? >> i think that they don't understand the system. quite frankly and whether you like the system or you don't like the system, there is a system. i think that donald trump said want to spark tomorrow morning, this is what you seize upon if you're a political junkie. maybe if i get in, maybely change the system. i will try to change the system. the democrats tried to do that back in 2008. barack obama and his team try to change the super delegate system. he ran a grass roots campaign, he was able to overcome the super delegate situation, right, the hillary clinton people stopped and asked him to be the people. the question is after this election cycle, are we going to see the democrats and the republicans try to revamp their system?
>> one of his spokesman said that. saying the same thing. >> to your point, nationally it is the same way, the poll showed 56% of republican voters say who are has the most delegates could be the nominee. like wise, 5le % of vote percent. >> we hope it doesn't rain tomorrow. >> they don't think the rules are fair. >> not as delegate on the republican side. super delegates represent about 15% -- >> you are. >> i am a super delegate. >> represent about 15% of all the delegates. debbie wasserman schulz was talking about the number of elections have all been decided by the pledged delegates, the super delegates had no impact on those races. so the candidates and their campaigns know the rules, 15 plus states, whatever they are,
it is what it is. adjust to it. >> just figure it out. >> this time it benefits hillary clinton. >> tv show and the delegates are not your pleas and you just fire people. he likes, especially mr. trump, when he's winning, everything is fantastic, i'm great, we're great, polls are great, et cetera, et cetera, things don't go his way, this system is this, that, and he and senator sanders are starting to sound alike. >> the rules have been the way for the party for decades. this is the way its been. people fight this every four years. they're going to be delegates going there. oh by the way, if you're a candidate, you know, because that's what happens. they get up there. i've been to these things and it is smoke-filled, to this day. >> the fact that its been around forever falls on deaf ears because the american voters want them to explain why is the candidate with the most votes being disenfranchised and it's
how they get an explanation, they are going to rebel against the rules. >> why didn't the trump campaign figure this out in april? >> it's about the rules being fundamentally unfair and the voters saying that. i wish the party would listen. that's why we're in this scenario. that's why trump is doing well because the voters don't like the rule, they don't like the party. >> the point she's making is only going to embolden the trump people and making the convention even more of a mess because part of the an mouse towards this is the system is broken, washington isn't representing me and now the republican party rules, which they didn't know the rules with, but those rules aren't representing them either, and they're not. that's not meant to be the point. >> everything that, you know, emboldens the supporters. any time there's something he said, it makes them stronger prp new york's primary just days away, make sure you stay with cnn for town halls with all the gop candidates and family
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and go up there and the big guy's going to ask me, the lord's going to ask me what did you do? and i'm going to say i didn't do anything, i was just too busy. >> she was one of the protesters and joins me now to talk about what governor kasich had to say. thank you for joining me, how are you? >> oh, i'm very well, thank you. >> you were protesting for the right of the disabled, so those that need long-term services won't be discriminated against. john kasich came back to meet with you and talked about his commitment to your issues in very strong terms, are you satisfied with what he had to say? >> absolutely not. i felt i was met with broken promises. he promised me that his top guy would call me and i haven't heard anything. you know, we just really want to know will he endorse ts disability immigration act?
we want to know that from all our candidates and it's something he's avoiding. he still hasn't let the disability community know whether he's going to endorse the disability immigration act. >> how are you treated at the kasich rally? >> not treated well. i felt very discriminated against. he knew ahead of time we were coming. we were the first in line. waited out in the freezing cold, 7:00 in the morning, the doors open at 10:30, we were the first ones in. and we're escorted to the back of the gym, the auditorium there where he was. we were standing room only where thousands of people stood in between us and wheelchairs. we couldn't see him. we saw nothing but people in front of us. and i know -- he knew ahead of time we were coming. you know, put us in a place where we weren't seen or and couldn't be heard from.
and, you know, we had to make our voices heard. we want to know does he support the disability immigration act? we to want know that from all the candidate kps. >> are you doing that to ted cruz? >> absolutely. we want to know where our future president lies on this. and it's important for the disability community to know which candidate's going to support us. we need to get out of nursing homes. there are people stuck in nursing homes. kasich, the things that he's done to limit and cut spending for people in ohio bernie sanders is cosponsored the disability immigration act and hillary clinton. we have reached out to them.
we haven't heard anything back from them we are going to see which candidates are going to have our back and free the people from nursing homes. >> michelle, thank you. we appreciate you joining us. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. yeah. back with me now the political dream team, you have to give her credit -- >> made that little bit of tv, that kid who worry about jobs and he did that, it was about a month ago. going back and meeting them is the right thing to do. bill clinton, if he saw anybody who was in the trouble, he'd talk to them. but it was a message. kasich did that. >> i mean, he's supposed to be the kinder, gentler candidate, hugging or whatever, why do you think margaret wasn't happy with his response tonight? >> well, i can't speak out for the protester, what i can tell you is john kasich has spoken about the physically disabled and said they don't have advocates or lobby that people like him have to stand up for them. it's not like this is, you know, i think if somebody were just
tuning in, they might think that john kasich had a bad record on disability, and that's not the case at all. there are protesters as we all know at every single one of the events. there is always somebody to get attention for their issue. and so yournz and they should, that's their right. >> do you think we would see donald trump treat protesters the same way? >> get him out, get him out. >> tried to beat down his door, i've seen this on the air, beat down the door. blockaded roads to get into the events. this woman came, a woman like this who clearly was rational, logical in what she wanted to achieve, i do. the protesters that he has had to try to stop to keep peace are very different in quality and in quantity really than this fine lady. >> they are there to disrupt. >> she was there to be heard, yes. >> this point in time in a campaign does give us the opportunity to see someone like this woman come out and try to
get her voice heard. otherwise, we're not going to hear this woman's voice, we're not going to hear -- i would have never known about that to be perfectly honest, i'm not sure anyone else on the panel, maybe except for margaret, right, that you've talked about it. would be really tuned into this issue is. what we are seeing though, unfortunately, is that we are seeing tensions get a little too high. not only on the republican side, but the democratic side as well. and the temperature does need to be lowered just a little bit. >> worse every week. >> as a democrat, mayor, when you see, you know, kasich reaching out to people like that, as a democrat, do you say you know what -- >> he did the right thing as a candidate, as an elected official. more important than that, as a human being. you can take that moment, which may be the most critical thing going on with that individual or the group, take the time. everyone should at least be heard. and little less politics, little more humanity would be able to get things done.
>> to mark's point about taking it down a notch when you see the protesters who interrupted the former president last week and you see this, can we -- do we need to take it down a notch when it comes to -- >> let's be realistic, numbers are going to get bigger. when we used to do protests, we'd drive around in buses. >> the closer we get -- [ laughter ] >> i like that. >> am i right? >> the good old days. >> stay with me everyone, when we come back, why donald trump says the process to avoid delegates is corrupt. just house messy could this convention get?
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>> okay. you got paul, he hires paul, good idea. paul knows how to do every trick. never would touch it. not new york. >> i think ted cruz won them fair and square. the oesh two candidates didn't show up. and mr. trump admitted he had no idea that if you want won a state meant that you weren't going to get the delegates that you want. >> engaged and involved in politics all of us could go without a when the campaign started, everything was about states and votes and votes, and a couple times, i did they're
really kind of twol races going on here. the voters can go, they do what they do what they do. you see the conversation flipping now. more and more discussion about delegates. so you talk about where we are in the race. the the stakes become higher, the candidates are tiring of each other and they're recognizing at some point in time and different version of musical chairs, someone's not going to have a seat. >> and they're realizing that the system is corrupt. at least donald trump voters are. i think if we could all extract ourselves and our personal loyalties from this situation, corrupt, corrupt. >> define corrupt. >> delegates can be bribed. i guarantee it would probably be 80% of people watching would agree -- >> is that what happened in.
>> there's been a lot of conner is nation as well about super pac. right? >> a little different. fair point which is that there are no rules governing -- >> i'm trying to move on here. i'm trying to move on now. >> we're just talking about production. >> come here, you want to stand here? >> sure. >>. anderson asked john kasich about that. released an ad than ran saturday in new york city and pennsylvania, i want to just take a listen to it and ask you about
it. >> told by his father, he was anointed by god to obtain a powerful position, said women should be punished for having an abortion to release their neighborhoods wouldn't rule ouz using nuclear weapons against europe. that the best we can do?
no, it's not. john kasich, stable, presidential. >> crazy, pat si clyne. >> why not like that ad. i have told my campaign
people. i can't communicate. >> legally. >> pat si klain. >> i love pat si clyne. >> the song in that context. >> i thought you know, i objected to some of what they've done a couple times here. >> we talked about that. i don't want to and frankly that's why until about a month ago, people didn't know who i was. >> more aggressive were more negative. >> all the debates were about who can you smear? who can you yell at? then you get a sound byte, guess what he said about them? you know, and i wasn't going to do that.
and have the money other people have, but guess what, i'm still standing. you know, we're like the little engine that can. >> and embarrassed him or he would like -- >> is that staying above the fray? >> did you think that ad was staying above the fray? >> governor kasich's answer -- >> yeah? >> it is, john, but governor kasich also said he wishes the super pac would take down that ad and that they wouldn't run ads like that. let's see if the super pac follows the very specific request to do so. right. >> and they will not. >> they don't get distribution. >> mine doesn't. there's no way. we can't valt it. >> you have to know your candidate. you get direction by watching what he does and says. there are two functions of the
super pac as we see it. first of all we took a gamble, ran differently. the model select check after check after check. we hired ground game in ohio, digital, direct mail, a lot of talk to the voter activity. right to rise, conservative solution gives billions of dollars out of the race. >> voter activities. what does that mean? >> rallies, we pay for some of the rallies. we do direct mail. we get out the vote. in addition to broadcast, a lot of ads on talk radio aren't the grass root candidates. he's only been in the senate for three years. >> if you believe that john kasich's campaign did not see that ad before it hit the air -- >> i'm against kasich wink the nomination, that's unfair to the professionals. >> oh wait a minute. >> they coordinate. saying they broke the law. >> it happens all the time. >> no, it's very serious charge. i know these guys involved. >> to be fair, i run a super
pac, kelly ann runs a super pac. you were in the game, citizens united, people have been in the game understand if you have a super pac, you cannot coordinate with a committee. that is totally against the law. the way these people end up communicating is by having a press release and having the press write about it. everything is communicated, but they don't show them ads before they run. here's the thing. the reason you have a candidate super pac and do this is to run negative ads against your opponent. negative campaigning works. nobody likes to do it, but super pacs can come in, this is where outside money comes and they can run negative ads against candidates they're running against and the other candidate has deniability because they actually weren't coordinating with that payment. >> it's complicated. this is very complicated. this is pretty easy. stay with me everyone, the democrats going to take center stage in the brooklyn debate thursday night. and they're mixing it up on the campaign trail tonight, but is john kasich the republican with the best chance to beat them?
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between bernie sanders and hillary clinton ahead of our debate. back with me now, the political dream team. tonight in albany, trump had harsh words finish hillary clinton, called her guilty as hell, let's listen. >> i don't think the e-mails will take her down because she's being protected by the democrats, it would take anybody else down, but it's not going to take her down because she's being protected by the democrats which is a disgrace, but she's going is to have to live with that when she runs because everybody knows that she is guilty as hell. okay. everybody. her whole life has been a big, fat, beautiful lie. its been a terrible, terrible lie. everything about her is a lie. >> wow. what do you think? >> well, it's what they thought about o.j. simpson as a matter of fact. hillary clinton picks up her pitch against trump, against what your guy's name, cruz? that's right. they're going to start staking
out the general election stuff, and hillary clinton is over trump. which isn't hard to do. >> this is what trump should have kept doing, when he was in mid-december, i could tell you as a super pac person, trump was at his best. the cruz supporters loved it. no, but he took off four months doing other things. and picking onhillary iswhat the base wants to hear. >> nobody better than trump to change the political dialogue. >> donald trump is a, worried about hillary clinton, and b, demonstrates why we need a very strong and well-tested candidate on the democratic side to take on donald trump. in the general. >> hillary clinton has shifted her focus and released a new attack ad on donald trump, listen. >> he says we
should punish women who have abortions. >> there has to be a form of punishment. >> mexicans who come to america are rapists. and that we should ban muslims from coming here at all. >> total and complete shutdown. >> donald trump says we can solve america's problems by
turning against each other, it's wrong, and it goes against everything new york and america stands for. >> with so much at stake, she's the one tough enough to stop trump. >> i'm hillary clinton and i approve
this message. >> is this where the battle begins? is that what this is? >> certainly a part of it. hillary clinton knows she's in the democrating primaries. so it's a battle for everyone in new york, but she has to anticipate the possibility, a, that she could be the party's nominee and b, anticipate who the republicans are going to put up and for the moment, donald trump will be the candidate. getting ready. >> somebody use a first the heavy intense primary for somebody else, bring in somebody to attack him like that? i mean, i think that was a dangerous ad. dangerous, dangerous. >> bernie sanders got into her head, because she probably wants donald trump to be the nominee, why attack him now?
>> he has called her qualifications into question then he walked it back. but still now, you know -- >> haes winning these contests. >> i just think it's incredibly pertinent and relevant that she's not going after the person she's running against, why is she doing that? because bernie sanders still presents a really significant problem for her. the left loves him. there are really fault lines that are beginning to form. millennials, it's shocking the number of millennials, african american millennials prefer bernie sanders to hillary clinton. you know, you know, 13% did like. maybe they'll come back, but these are impending fault lines in the democratic party i think that we'll see again probably in four years. but she can't run against bernie. that will hurt her. >> i agree. >> still a democratic party, she does have to run -- >> but the ads against trump -- >> she's been talking about donald trump for some time. hillary clinton is also demonstrating she can do more than one thing at a time. and there's going to be a
general election. she's doing before. >> eni think a this is dangerous, she hasn't been questioned by bernie sanders at least about her e-mails in the clinton foundation. there are all these untest the things that bernie sanders will not bring up, i can guarantee you donald trump will. the republican party, all the good, bad, ugly coming out -- >> she knows -- >> everything. >> not by him. he holds back. >> the reasons, first thing is that she's got to prove to the liberal base that she will go after donald trump. more importantly, and margaret touched upon this, it didn't pit her against bernie sanders in this primary fight that is getting ugly that she does not want to divide and alienate them. that's why it's important. >> this stage of game, doesn't look to have you bring it together. and the democrats got a hell of a lot easier time coming together booirnd hillary clinton or bernie sanders. >> and doing two things at one time. trying to keep the democrats
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rallies, and 10,000 people show up. bernie sanders goes, 5,000 people show up, 15,000 people show up. bernie sanders is clearly reaching a part of the democratic party that the democratic party is going to need. the nominee is going to need, whether it's him or hillary clinton to win in november. you have to keep the basic out. you saw that happen with obama and clinton. >> new york, indiana, california, and one other, pennsylvania. and think they can win three out of four. >> the wife seemed so competitive with her in the home state. >> because she's the the dog beat out of her. >> vermont was, he won that. he wasn't -- bernie sanders won vermont by a margin that hillary clinton will never win by. >> i understand. she was born in illinois. >> what's the debate? >> i think we're at a critical point in the campaign. new york by itself and then what i've called to the kind of
atlantic tuesday with those five big states and a lot of delegates at stake. but you know, some of the stuff that's happened over the course of the last week, whether represented in new york, born in new york, whatever the case may be. the only thing going on. it's significant from a delegate standpoint. >> one week. >> it's the highest number for any states this far. >> we've seen bernie sanders waiver and go back and forth on the qualified, not qualified, here's what i meant. this debate, he's going to be squarely asked, do you think hillary clinton is qualified, and he's going to have the choice, do i go negative or rise above and kind of take the road hillary clinton did? >> but she signalled today, she's going to go negative based on the editorial board that he had with the daily news, she said today today.
>> is the campaign worried about momentum? running for office, been in office, you should be able to explain your own stuff. >> it's complicated, man, it's complicated. >> seven over the last eight contests. >> that's over. >> the question is where do his voters go? but ladies and gentlemen, the idea that his voters, bernie sanders voters are just going to say, you know what, this was fun, but i'm for hillary now, i think that's a dream. >> bob, say out loud what you're whispering. >> the problem for bernie sanders is you caught on later, and i can't, any way i do it, i cannot add up a maurget. can't do it. the only thing is the strategy. which is to try to keep them below the 50% mark and get the second -- >> i find it interesting that you say something. i hear lots of people, in the beginning and i like that kind of thing, a lot of people have said it's mathematically impossible for bernie sanders and it's also mathematically impossible for donald trump to win in a general.
>> there's no way bernie sanders can get the nominee. no way. >> not mathematically impossible -- >> no, but -- >> demographicicly. >> especially when you consider, not all bernie sanders voters are going to march over to hillary clinton. 37% say they can't see themselves voting for her. trump has a real chance at courting some of the blue collar workers. in places like pennsylvania -- >> and many republicans are not voting for donald trump if he's the nominee. and will go over to hillary. >> i don't see that. >> because of the demographics of this country, demographically impossible -- >> it's why republicans can't win the presidency. >> here's the thing, mitt romney won 59% of white voters, most of any nonimcouple banal republican running for president. he still lost by five million votes. you have to bring more groups of people to the table to vote for you besides white voters.
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