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major quakes in ecuador, japan. now a race to save survivors. let's talk live in "cnn newsroom." good morning, i'm carol costello. thanks for joining me. new york showdown. we're just hours away from tomorrow's critical primary. today, the candidates are barnstorming the state to try to sway voters. first up, the republicans. ted cruz sweeping all 14 delegates in wyoming, fueling donald trump's claims that the delegate system is rigged. all this as a battle brews between top delegates of the rnc. and clinton's ties to big money. dancing around the insults and settling her sights on the state she calls home. we're covering this with our team of political reporters. let's begin with the heated
feud between donald trump and rnc. trump now warning the big bosses of a rough july unless the delegate rules change. let's get right to cnn's jason carroll. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, carol. you and i both know these rules are not going to change -- at least any time soon. we have this impasse between donald trump and rnc. trump saying that the system is rigged. the rnc chairman saying the system is not rigged, simply saying that trump needs to do a better job at his delegate ground game. >> we have a system that's rigged. we have a system that's crooked. we have this delegate system, which is a sham. >> reporter: donald trump doubling down on his war with the rnc and continuing to criticize ted cruz's ground game in the race toward 1237 delegates. >> the fact that you've taken all these people out and wining them and dining them, nobody does that stuff better than me. i just don't want to do it. >> reporter: the front-runner
tweeting over the weekend, lion' ted cruz can't get the votes. i am millions ahead of him. so he has to get his delegates from the republican bosses. it won't work. cruz responding that 1.3 million vote ed and no whining. and reince priebus saying the rules can't be changed between now and the convention. >> you need to make sure you play within the confines of the rules to get there. >> reporter: sweeping win in wyoming for cruz acres state where delegates are won through a convention, not a primary. cruz was the only candidate to attend the convention and fwresively campaign in the state. >> wyoming matters. we're in a battle, nationwide battle for delegates. >> reporter: and at 12:00 noon, trump will be meeting with the
national diversity coalition for trump. he needs to do a better job reaching out to minority communities as well as women voters. as for the state of new york, carol, he is way up in the polls here, expecting a win here in the state and going forward, he is saying despite his problems and criticisms that he has with the delegate system, he expects to have the amount of delegates needed to become the presumptive nominee by the time that california primary is over. carol? >> jason carroll, reporting live this morning from the trump tower here in new york city. while donald trump rips the delegate system, ted cruz is looking ahead to the convention. here is what he said on "good morning america" moments ago. >> i'll have a ton of delegates. he'll have a ton of delegates. it's going to be a battle in cleveland to see who can get to a majority. you can't get the nomination without earning a majority of the delegates elected by the people. i believe donald's highest total will be on that first ballot and he will go steadily down because donald cannot win.
and we don't want to nominate someone who is a loser. >> earlier this morning, trump tweeted, quote, lyin' ted cruz can't win with the voters so he has to sell himself to the bosses. i am millions of votes ahead. hillary would destroy him. >> this goes deeper than ted cruz and donald trump. who would have thought, right? this goes into the center of the republican national committee. over the weekend, top officials trading e-mails back and forth, attacking one another about a meeting this week between top rnc officials down in florida. that meeting is about how to draft the rules for the convention. obviously, this has become all the more important as we look ahead to what will most certainly be an open convention. one individual talking about how those rules will be set up now, another saying we need to wait. re. nce priebus weighing in on "state of the union."
>> i don't think it's a good id for us next week before the convention to make serious rules changes or recommendations of changes right now. i think we're in a politically charged environment. i think it's too complicated. i think the rnc rules committee, going forward with making rules amendment suggestions is -- it is not a good idea. actually, we can't actually change anything. it's up to the delegates at the convention. so, the recommendations, i think, just confuse people. i think it's a bad idea. >> now, carol, obviously, reince priebus pointing out these would just be recommendations. but the committee does meet this week. what they say will have an impact on the convention. obviously if you look at the convention and people planning for that convention, ted cruz -- it's interesting to dig in on his strategy. no longer is he talking about reaching that magic 1237 number before cleveland. it's all about cleveland. so you look at his team and what they've done leading up to this point. for ted cruz it was initial ly
about winning states top line, iowa, texas, wisconsin a couple of weeks ago. what we've seen over the last two weeks is what he has been doing behind the scenes on the ground that's had a major impact, winning delegates in places like north dakota, wyoming, colorado. even beyond that, carol, states he lost, like georgia, south carolina, florida, where his team has been operating behind the scenes to elect delegates loyal to ted cruz. those delegates on that first ballot will be voting for donald trump, carol. if this is an open convention and it moves forward, then all of a sudden you have ted cruz loyal delegates no longer bound to donald trump and that's where ted cruz strikes. trump's team saying we'll get to 1237 before the convention. this doesn't matter at all. they'll start right here in new york, 95 delegates at stake, possibly sweeping all 95 of them. the effort going on behind the scenes in all the campaigns so important to pay attention to right now. >> so interesting. thank you so much. mr. trump says he will not play senator cruz's games. yes, he lost delegates to cruz
but says he's above using his toys to buy their support. >> it's a corrupt and crooked system where you're allowed to take delegates -- nobody has better toys than i do. i could put them in the best planes, put them in the best resorts in the world. doral, mar-largo. but it's a corrupt system. you're basically buying these people. >> it appears mr. trump hopes his supporters will rally in cleveland to ensure he gets the nomination. trump says he hopes violence isn't part of the equation but cleveland isn't taking any chances, securing a $50 million federal grant for riot gear and other security measures. with me now, the honorary co-chair of donald trump's new york state campaign, a former new york gubernatorial candidate and surrogate for ted cruz is
joining me. >> good morning, carol. >> thank you both for being here. a savvy businessman who knows how to work the system so why wouldn't he use any legal influence he can over delegates? >> i think what you're seeing here is mr. trump is complaining about what's happened in the past and illustrating to the people that they never really had a choice in the past, that it's always been controlled by and that is very unfair to the . people. i think the people have been awakened to that fact now. god forbid if the present leaders of the republican party try to do a brokered convention. >> why do you say god forbid, carl? >> i think it's the end of the republican party as we've known it. if they continue that nonsense, people are not going to accept it. they're going to lay down, at best. at worst, they will help support
donald trump as a third party candidate. i don't see any way the republican party leadership can recover from this. they've already cast their ballot on this brokered convention idea, and the fact that they intend to take the nomination away from the people's choice. this man has gone through months and months -- >> okay. so, along those lines. >> i'm sorry. >> i want to pose this question to judson -- no problem at all, carl. ted cruz told "good morning america" this morning that he will win at the convention thanks to, quote, delegates elected by the people. not because he is the candidate most people voted for, but because delegates elected by the people will make it possible for him. this is something you rarely hear in a presidential election. so, is he spinning things?
>> no, he's not. we are selecting the nominee for the republican party. the republican nominee should be selected by republicans. and in a lot of these states, like wyoming and nebraska, north dakota and some other states, you have caucuses and conventions where you have republicans, not just people who cross the ballot lines, selecting who the republican nominee is. so, yeah, it's the republicans who are deciding who their nominee is. and that's a great thing. >> i think that a number of voters here in america just want their vote to matter. and by saying that ted cruz will be like -- will become the nominee because of delegates elected by the people, that doesn't exactly -- i don't know. it is democracy and it is our system. don't get me wrong but a lot of people will say do we want to vote for a guy who had to go through the back door to get the nomination? >> carol, first of all, we live in a representative republic,
not a democracy. we elect representatives. that's what's happening in the republican process. that happens in the general election. we don't vote directly for the president. we vote for electers who then meet three weeks after the election and then vote for the president. so that's how the system works. it's a great system and has made america great for almost 240 years. >> carl, knowing that -- knowing all of that, because we do have a republic and those are the rules, again i ask you, why wouldn't donald trump use his influence over these delegates like any savvy businessman would? >> because -- i mean, what you're talking about is really -- it's not true. for instance, in new york, the people will vote in each congressional district. then it's party people, establishment party people who will then select the delegates. they'll select a delegate that
may be favorable to cruz but they know that delegate on the first vote will have to vote for donald trump. it's a total fraud. it's been going on for years, for ages. it's the way the incumbents protect their incumbency. these people are facing irrelevance, loss of power and they don't like it. so, they're fighting back. they're going to use these rules to the ultimate. and that is unfair to the people. the people don't select the delegates. the people select how the delegates will vote on the first ballot. after that, it's really party establishment people that are selecting the delegates. >> all right. i have to leave it there. carl paladino, judson phillips, thank you. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. still to come in "the newsroom," president obama's immigration policy goes to the
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large demonstrations now as the supreme court takes up immigration. the high court will hear oral arguments from 26 states challenging president obama's executive orders to stop deportations for certain immigrants. the fates of more than 4 million undocumented immigrants hang in the balance. justice correspondent pamela brown is at the court this morning with more. good morning, pamela. >> reporter: good morning, carol. one of the most highly anticipated cases of the term that could impact millions of people. it has broad implications for
executive power. outside of the supreme court this morning you can hear large crowds, demonstrators on both sides of the issue. many of the demonstrators are here on behalf their family members who would be eligible for president obama's immigration program, those who came to the united states as children or parents of u.s. citizens, supporters that will bring these 4.3 million people out of the shadows, so they can pass a background check, pay taxes and apply for work benefits while the administration focuses on deporting the highest priority targets. the president said he came up with this program because of congressional inaction. those on the other side of this proposal say it's overreach at its worse, bestows benefits on a class of individuals that congress has refused to bestow benefits on. and texas, leading the 26
states, say it will have to spend millions of dollars on driver's licenses for these people. now, the death of antonin scalia could have an impact. a 4-4 split means the lower court's ruling will stand and the program will not go into effect. however, carol, this case could be decided on an issue other than immigration. the justices could decide that the states don't have the standing to bring the lawsuit in the first place. if that happens, the program will go into affect. oral arguments start at 10:00 this morning, going on for 90 minutes. we expect a ruling on this issue later this term in june or july. carol? >> i know you will pop inside the court soon, pamela brown will keep us posted. >> reporter: absolutely. >> thank you. from the beginning, immigration has been a hot button issue this election season more so for donald trump, whose controversial border wall inspired a rally cry. [ chanting "build that wall" ]
>> with me now, ron brownstein. good morning, ron. >> good morning, carol. >> so how politicky splesive could this u.s. supreme court decision be? >> this is, to paraphrase joe biden once, this is a big deal. one of the most controversial decisions. as pamela said, it gets at this growing expansion of executive power in an era when divided government -- we've seen both parties push the envelope trying to do things through unilateral action. the court is the one place that can put a brake on that. immigration has moved to the center of the differences between the parties. we came out of 2012 after mitt romney won a higher share of the white vote than ronald reagan did in 1980 and lost by 5 million votes. official autopsy commission argue that the party had to reach out to more diverse voters. that impulse led the senate in a
bipartisan vote to pass immigration reform bill in 2013. the house refused to take it up. ever since, the republican party has been moving in the other direction, culminating in the calls by ted cruz and donald trump to deport all of the 11 million or so undocumented immigrants in the u.s., while the democrats, bernie sanders and hillary clinton, are promising to go even further than president obama on executive action. this is clearly one of the biggest divides of the parties heading into november. >> all eyes are on john roberts with justice scalia's death, viewed as a more liberal court. if we get a president trump and he fills that seat, could his wall happen then? >> the wall would be more of an issue of getting appropriations from congress. this really underscores, as well, the stakes in this election in the supreme court. they could block this lawsuit. if they're going to do it on substance, it seems headed for a 4-4 tie. the question would be if the
decision -- if the executive order is blocked, could a democratic president slightly revise the executive order, resubmit it through the courts and if they have a five-member supreme court majority could it be supported then? that would give them more leverage to encourage congress into a legislative solution. the politics of this are complicated. it not only underscores the distance between the parties on these issues, but the enormous stakes in this election which control not only the executive branch, probably the senate, but also the supreme court will be on ballot. >> you're not kidding. back to john roberts for a second. he is a conservative jurist but not by today's standards. senator cruz has vilified justice roberts. here is what he said in february. >> and they didn't have a paper trail. they were stealth and frankly their advisers said wink, wink,
nudge, nudge, they're deep down secretly conservatives but no one can prove it. let me suggest a principle. if you have lived 50 years of your life and you've never said, done or written anything to demonstrate you're a conservative, you ain't. >> so, you know, the thing about this is that the public doesn't have faith in any of our institutions. and is this chipping away at whatever faith is left that people have in the u.s. supreme court? >> yeah. well, look, john roberts has been, by any standard, a conservative jurist. the big exception are the two decisions upholding the affordable care act. he has been conscience as the chief justice, that it's viewed as an extension -- ever since bush v. gore in 2000, the court has been seen more of an extension than exception in our
intensifying political wars. these are the kind of cases that deepen that impression. what we have seen, though, from roberts is some kind of institutional, self preservation instinct where he has tried to avoid being fully caught into that maelstrom. >> ron brownstein, thank you so much. still to come in "newsroom" down to the wire for democrats in new york. hillary clinton leads bernie sanders. does she need a blowout to put the nomination out of his reach? , so you don't have to stop. tylenol® 8hr arthritis pain has two layers of pain relief. the first is fast. the second lasts all day. we give you your day back. what you do with it is up to you. tylenol®. (vo) whewe ate anything.ake home until i decided we both needed to eat better.
claims as their own. clinton underscoring the significance of the primary in a new ad. >> on tuesday, we've got a big decision to make. and the new york daily news and "the new york times" already made theirs. both endorse hillary clinton for president. >> and fresh off a massive rally in his native brooklyn, bernie sanders talked to cnn about what it will take to pull off an even bigger upset tomorrow. >> if turnout is high, we will win. >> how high? >> very high. now, one of the disadvantages we have, as you know, is on the new york state law. independents cannot participate in the democratic primary. we usually win the independent vote 2-1. we're kind of spotting secretary clinton a whole lot in that regard. if the voter turnout is high, if working people come out to vote, young people come out to vote, we can win this thing. >> cnn's chris fraites joins us now on that.
good morning. >> good morning. hillary clinton is feeling good about her lead this weekend. she raised some eyebrows, including host george clooney, who called the amount of money she fund-raised obscene. bernie sanders has been hammering hillary clinton for her ties to wall street. >> you cannot have a super pac raise many millions of dollars from wall street or special interests and then tell the american people with a straight face that you're going to stand up to the big money intests. not true. >> reporter: clinton spent some of the weekend in california, raising money for herself and other democrats with two events hosted by george clooney. vip ticket price hit over $353,000. a group of sanders supporters
were showering her motorcade with 1,000 $1 bills in los angeles on saturday. clooney admitting he understands the frustration. >> it is an obscene amount of money. the sanders campaign, when they talk about it, is absolutely right. it's ridiculous that we should have this kind of money in politics. >> sanders praised clooney's honesty, quiping the actor is backing the wrong horse. >> you won't have a government that represents all of us so long as you have candidates like secretary clinton being dependent on big money interest. >> bill clinton, making several unscheduled stops around new york, was taking a swipe at sanders. >> i think it's fine that all these young students have been so enthusiastic for her opponent. let's shoot every third person on wall street and everything will be fine. >> reporter: hillary clinton was talking up her experience to voters across the five burroughs. >> it's easy to diagnose the problem. you've got to be able to solve the problem.
>> reporter: even cutting loose to latin music at a block party. >> both candidates are campaigning very hard today in new york city. clinton will hold a get out the vote rally this afternoon in manhattan and sanders has a rally scheduled tonight in long island. sanders is a big upset here tomorrow if he wants a shot at narrowing hillary clinton's lead here. >> chris frates, thanks for stopping by. appreciate it. rosie o'donnell has finally gone public, not on television, but on abc radio. she talked about donald trump offering no apologies for calling her a dog and offered her thoughts of his candidacy. >> donald trump very well may be the gop nominee. of course, nothing is for sure. but he's leading now. what's your reaction to that? >> i think it's an epic battle, worthy of a new "star wars" movie. you have to decide, are you going to be with the force or are you going to be on the dark side? it's your choice. it's like "harry potter. he's like lord voldemort.
>> donald talked about the democratic candidate, bernie sanders, and what she calls his pie in the sky politics. >> his idealism is wonderful but the practical reality of how stuff gets done in washington, d.c. is very different from the sort of dreamy election promises he's making. he reminds me of the kid in student council who said i will run for student council president, free ice cream at lunch, no math and there will never be homework and everyone is like, yea! >> here is what sanders told cnn about his naysayers. >> change takes place when people stand up and fight for change. that is the kernel, the heart of what this campaign is about. i believe everything we're talking about -- nothing is radical. these ideas exist in other countries and exist in the united states. >> let's talk about that. angela rye, cnn political commentator and congressional black caucus and from the new
hampshire survey center. welcome to both of you. >> thank you. >> angela, is rosie o'donnell right? you hear bernie sanders talking about a revolution but you never hear him talking about reaching across the aisle and convincing republican members of congress to get his ideas through. >> a couple of things, carol. first of all, bernie sanders' campaign tag line is so similar to barack obama's in 2008 and 2012. his is a future to believe in. of course, barack obama's was change you can believe in. so, he went a couple of words short from what barack obama's statement was. i think our reality now is that hillary clinton, if there's a spectrum, is closer to pragmatic than barack obama was and continues to be and bernie sanders is a whole lot more idealistic. well, somewhere in the middle is where things get done in washington. i think barack obama did have a few pie in the sky ideas. there was health care for all,
vis-a-vis obamacare or the affordable care act. what bernie sanders is pushing, which is medicare for all or medicaid for all, would end up being a type of plan that would need to be supported by not just a republican senate, but by democrats. and barack obama's plans that did not include a public option, because it could not pass when the democrats were in control in the house and senate were case in point for why his ideas are too pie in the sky. so, political revolution may be an option. i don't think it's going to happen in four years. >> andy, i want to ask you about that political revolution. bernie sanders seems to intimate that he will become president, have this great idea that a lot of people support and then he can somehow get his supporters to -- to what? stage a revolution in front of the white house? what does he mean by that? >> i think the revolution he's
speaking of is what barack obama touched on as well, getting money out of politics and entrenched interests in washington and the business community less involved in politics and focus more on the middle class, blue collar workers. if you think of the people that have been the strongest supporters of sanders, it's been white middle class or white lower middle class workers, blue collar workers as well as young people. >> i understand when he says that, andy. when he says when he becomes president, he talks about getting his ideas through congress or some sort of political revolution. i'm just trying to figure out what exactly that means. >> i think it's political rhetoric, frankly. it's very, very difficult to get anything through our government. it was designed to be slow and messy and force compromise. and any sort of revolutionary ideas really demand huge majorities by the president's party. and it doesn't look, in this election in the fall like either
party will really be able to move the needle too much from where it is in the house and senate. i don't think the revolution he's talking about is for passing legislation. it's more for consumption on the campaign trail. >> george clooney charges $33,000 per ticket for a clinton fund-raiser and then comes out and says, wow, that really was a lot of money. it's terrible. it's like, gee, thanks, george, from hillary. right? >> i think hillary clinton, if you were giving her the opportunity to ask the same question, is there too much money in politics, she would agree. then she would probably say, this is what you need to be competitive. it's the same thing barack obama said and did, right? >> it isn't. bernie sanders is doing it a completely different way. he has proved you can do it another way. >> you can do it another way. i think if we're honest, right -- like it's probably not going to be successful for the long term.
barack obama, not bernie sanders, did it the same way hillary clinton is doing it now. dnc for the convention does it the same way. dccc does it the same way, senatorial campaign committee does it the same way. does that mean it's the only way? no. if you're speaking of political revolution, maybe this is one of the things bernie sanders wants to take on. the supreme court needs to side with him also. which means there needs to be somebody that agrees with bernie sanders. that just demonstrates the issue. it's something we need to look at. it's horrible, terrible, way to disenfranchise voters and lower-income people but something we have to do to be competitive. >> andy, since you are a pollster, only democrats can vote in the rather here in new york city, right? independents can't come in and vote for bernie sanders. he worries about that. real clear politics did a poll of polls. hillary clinton is still ahead 25 points in new york. can bernie sanders, as he said
on "new day" pull it out? >> it really depends, in my view, on how well his campaign was organized a month or two months ago, in registering young voters in the state. the registration -- new york is notorious for actually keeping people out of polling places, both candidates have voters. but if the sanders' campaign was able to register enough younger voters and turn them out like he has been able to do in other states, he can do okay. i think the bar is really 10% for two reasons. first, if he can keep it under 10%, he will minimize the number of delegates that clinton wins out of the state because of the proporti proportional allocation of delegates. but more importantly, it will mean that he will have beaten expectations here. he has been doing his best to lower expectations. it's also important to remember going ahead a week from now there's almost twice as many delegates at stake in the five or six contests on the 26th than there are in new york today. >> all right. i have to leave it there.
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right now with state of emergency blankets much of ecuador's coast and death toll from saturday's earthquake keeps climbing higher. 300 people are confirmed dead, more than 2,500 people are injured. as you can see, inny minute, buildings have buckled under the force of the magnitude 7.8 quake. rescue teams are digging through the rubble, trying to find survivors. boris sanchez is on the road, heading to the hardest-hit area right along the coast. he joins you now by phone to tell us more. hi, boris. >> reporter: hey, xgood morning carol, we're headed to the
epicenter. 2,500 people hurt. those numbers are expected to change shortly. officials have had such a hard time figuring out the extent of the damage is because so many roads have been impacted by the earthquake. a lot of it has to do with the weather they've been seeing recently here in ecuador. over the past several weeks, a lot of torrential rains caused by el nino. they've weakened roads and this earthquake has essentially decimated them. the hardest-hit areas are along the coast. it's hard for officials to get over there and try to rescue people who may be trapped under the rubble. as you mentioned, state of emergency in effect for six provinces. we got reports that people were sleeping outside because they were afraid to go in their homes, for fear they might not be structurally sound. the president of ecuador this weekend was at the vatican. he cut that trip short to come back home and take care of these
grave problems here. there are about 10,000 soldiers on the street, helping people. 4,000 police officers. this is actually only the second deadliest earthquake to hit ecuador. 1987, 7.2 earthquake killed about 1,000 people. this was a 7.8. the hope is that when it's all said and done, this will not reach that scope of devastation, carol. >> tragic enough. boris sanchez. in japan, search and rescue is also under way. major earthquakes hit the country back-to-back. at least 42 people are dead more than 1,000 injured from the twin quakes. thousands more lost water and power to their homes. 180,000 people now staying in emergency shelters. up next in the "newsroom," you know flood something bad when drivers have to swim to dry land. how houston is coping.
♪ good news for alexander hamilton fans. he's likely staying put on the $10 bill thanks to broadway maybe kind of. jack lew is expected to announce hamilton's face will remain on the $10 bill but who will replace his phraface? >> there was so much outrage about putting a woman on a u.s. bill of currency and the $10 bill a lot of people said do not mess with alexander hamilton. he's got all these fans, this broadway play idolizing him.
right now on the $10 bill there's alexander hamilton on the front, the treasury buildings on the back. the new $10, hamilton stays, a scene of women's suffrage will be on the back probably with susan b. anthony. that's what the $10 will law school. alexander hamilton fans, rest assured, he will stay on there. andrew jackson getting the boot. he is the seventh american president and, you know, this is one of the most widely circulated bills in the world, but andrew jackson, history not as kind to him. he was a slave owner. you have heard of the trail of tears. the new $20 will have a woman on the front, and that woman will be a figure in racial equality, the fight for racial equality in this country. that will be the change there. the $5 bill will keep abraham lincoln on the front, but the back will be interesting. it's going to commemorate events that have happened at the lincoln memorial over history. there have been so many great ones, right? so that will be a mural on the back. when will it happen? not very soon.
what they have to do for anti-counterfeiting, it could take to the year 2030 to get this done. and, you know, the treasury secretary and others have said they were surprised by how much input people had into changing their money, money, money, but you will have a woman on a bill. it will be the $20. it will be the year 2030. >> we still don't know who, right? >> my vote is rosa parks. >> that's my vote too. >> an everyday american woman who helped symbolize and change history. >> i don't know, you could say that of a lot of women. >> i know. >> christine romans, thanks so much. coming up next, houston, we have a problem. just look at all of this water. my advice for looking younger longer? get your beauty sleep and use new aveeno® absolutely ageless® night cream with active naturals® blackberry complex. younger looking skin can start today. new absolutely ageless® from aveeno®. when they thought they should westart saving for retirement.le then we asked some older people
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90 water rescues in harris county, texas, alone. this driver forced to swim to safety. oh, my goodness. look at -- chad myers, it's terrible. >> yeah. it sure is. houston emergency managers saying please stay home. there's nothing that's important enough to risk your life to go out today. that's how bad it is there around houston. this reporter ran out to save the man as he was trying to swim from the car in that flooded underpass and that's what's been going on for most of the morning. underpasses are under water. the bayous or the are completel full. it's going to stay up for the rest of the day and there's more rain coming. there could be another 2 to 4 inches of rain for houston. on top of that, that is 14 to 20 inches of rain just in the past 24 hours. so flash flood warnings and emergencies everywhere right there along i-10 in houston all the way from kady to the village and all the way to the northwest of there. significant flooding.
this creek went from 65 feet to 92 feet just in two hours. so that's how fast the water is coming up. some of the bayous completely full levels from 8 feet up to 37 feet. can you imagine the water you're looking at it and in 2 hours it can go up 30 feet. >> please be careful out there. chad myers, thanks so much. the next hour of cnn "newsroom" starts now. happening on the "newsroom," new york ready to vote and the gop front-runner ready to fight the system. >> we have a system that's rigged. we have a system that's crooked. >> you need to be able to play within the confines of the rules. >> why the gop rule book may be the most interesting read in politics right now. also, democrats dash around new york. >> let's have a record-breaking turnout on tuesday. >> god mess yobless you, staten!
>> but money talks and even george clooney calls the amount of cash in politics on jeabscn . now a race to save survivors from earthquakes. let's talk. live in the cnn "newsroom." >> i'm carol costello. thanks so much for joining me. right now in washington the supreme court begins hearing arguments on president obama's controversial plan to stop deportations of about 4 million undocumented immigrants. demonstrators have been gathering outside the court for hours. texas and 25 other states are suing to have the president's executive orders on immigration struck down. we're keeping a close eye on the high court and the public protests. we'll bring you any developments as they unfold. get ready for a new york showdown. we're now just hours away from tomorrow's critical primary. today the candidates are barnstorming the state to try and sway voters. let's begin with the republicans. donald trump rips the gop
delegate system while ted cruz sets his sights on the convention. >> i'll have a ton of delegates. he'll have a ton of delegates. and it's going to be a battle in cleveland to see who can get to a majority. you can't get the nomination without earning a majority of the delegates elected by the people, and i believe donald's highest total will be on that first ballot and he will go steadily down because donald cannot win and we don't want to nominate someone who is a loser. >> but mr. trump insists the delegate system is rigged and crooked, and he's warning the big bosses of a rough july unless the delegate rules change. all of this as a new battle brews between top gop operatives in the national committee. let's get to jason carroll. >> reporter: i'm sure donald trump will have something to say about that ted cruz comment later on today. as for the system, here is some of the words that he's used to
describe it, sham, crooked, dishonest, and rigged, as you heard. he had plenty to say last night at that rally in poughkeepsie where he spelled out his feelings in no uncertain terms. >> we have a system that's rigged. we have a system that's crooked. we have a system that's got a lot of problems, and we have a system that doesn't allow the people to vote in many cases, and if they do vote, their vote isn't really representative of what it should be. we have this delegate system which is a sham. so in colorado the people are going crazy out there because they never got a chance to vote. >> reporter: the chairman of the republican national committee weighing in on this issue over the weekend hitting the air waves talking to many people in the media as he says trying to set the record straight. he basically says this is what the deal is. he says this is not a rigged system. this is a system where you simply need to learn the rules. >> each individual state
determines how they're going to allocate their delegates, so it's up to the campaigns to know the rules and compete within each of those states within the rules. it's important for the candidates to understand that the majority of delegates is the goal, and you need to be able to play within the confines of the rules to make sure that you get there. >> reporter: yeah, and the chairman also saying that it's up to each campaign to get in there, work the grassroots efforts to reach out to the delegates. trump says he knows this, he's heard this before. he simply says he's not interested in doing it. moving forward, as you know, trump is doing well here in the polls. he holds a commanding lead over cruz and kasich. what he's hoping for here, carol, is a huge win in the state of new york. he says that would be a referendum on what he's been saying about the whole delegate system. carol? >> jason carroll reporting live for us this morning. thank you. as trump rips the republican delegate system, senator ted cruz is hitting back. for more on that i want to bring in cnn's sunlen surserfaty.
good morning. >> reporter: ted cruz laying into donald trump over this starting the hash tag whining in reference to trump's complaints about the delegate system. today senator cruz is celebrating a clean sweep in wyoming winning all 14 of those delegates, and today really making that a stark contrast in how donald trump is managing his campaign and how he has mastered his -- his campaign is able to master this intricate rules of the delegate process. today senator cruz said donald trump is not all that complicated. he just does not like losing. and basically going on to say that's why trump is campaigning about the system but here we are, of course, one day before the new york primary where ted cruz is in most polls third in the polls behind trump and kasich and that new york values line continues to haunt him as he's campaigned in new york. here is what he had to say about that this morning. >> the phrase new york values actually didn't come from me. it came from donald trump. it was an interview he gave a number of years ago to "meet the
press" where he was explaining his long-time support for partial birth abortion, and his explanation was, hey, i'm from new york. those are new york values. they're not iowa values. and so i was repeating donald's own phrasing. now, let me be clear as i have said many times, the people of new york, the folks here, y'all have suffered under the left-wing democratic policies year after year after year that are foisted on you by politicians who aren't listening to you. >> reporter: so there you hear him really try to explain what he meant to say, what he meant by that, but that certainly continues to chase him on the campaign trail in new york. he is continuing to downplay expectations for how he will do in new york. rather now looking ahead to states coming up. he's in maryland and pennsylvania tomorrow, two states that will vote next thursday. >> sunlen serfaty reporting live for us.
how will all of this play out in the months before the convention? we me to talk about that is lisa booth. a republican strategist and contributor for the washington examiner. i'm also joined by trump supporter jeffrey lord, a cnn political commentator and former reagan white house political director. and last but not least, author rebecca haglan, she's a surrogate for ted cruz. welcome to all of you. >> hi. >> nice to have you all here. lisa, way tonight start with you. ted cruz told "good morning america" he will win at the convention thanks to, quote, delegates elected by the people. not because he's the candidate most people voted for, but delegates elected by the people. what do you make of his language? >> well, it's interesting because we've sort of seen the curtain be pulled back on the delegate system in a way we really haven't seen in recent time. up until this point in previous election cycles we have had a candidate that has gotten the majority of the vote. but i think regardless if you're donald trump, ted cruz, or john kasich, the idea that somehow republicans are just going to come to this consensus
candidate, hold hands and sing cue bia kumbaya is just not goo happen. in regards to this delegate fight, both candidates are kind of right in the sense when you look at states like wyoming, you look at states like colorado, that system seems rigged. however, donald trump has been fully aware of the rules and has failed to get there. we've seen him make concerted efforts to change that process which bringing aboard paul manafort and rick wily. he sees the problems at hand with his candidacy and he's making steps to change it but they're both kind of right in the ways they're presenting the argument. >> in light of what lisa just said, jeffrey, mr. trump did say he does not want to use like trips to persuade delegates even if it's legal. he doesn't want to give them free plane rides to change their mind, but why not use the system like he does in the business world? >> you know, carol, i have to say i am a little disappointed
in that. i mean, what fun this would be when president ford was fighting then governor reagan, one delegate, as i think we discussed before, was invited for dinner at the white house with the queen of england. so no holds were barred, and in point of fact, other than offering federal office to a delegate, which is against the law, you can do just about anything, and i must say i would find it very interesting to see these delegates hop on that 757 and fly to mara lago for the weekend but this is what he wants to do and he's going to do it his way so here we go. >> so rebecca, i mean is senator cruz glad that donald trump is not doing that or does senator cruz believe donald trump is trying to persuade delegates in other ways? >> well, i think it's pretty disgusting that we're even joking about such a thing. ted cruz is winning states, he won the last five because the
grassroots are rising up and listening to his message, hearing his message about jobs, freedom and security, and the delegates are flocking to him. this is america. we have a system of government that is set by the states and the people in the party system, and we have something else that is the bedrock foundation, and when you have a donald trump who is in this race, who doesn't know the rules, who hasn't bothered to play by them, it makes me wonder, has he ever bothered to read the foundational document, the constitution of the united states? it shows there's just not a lot of good judgment or even homework done on his part. he reminds me of a middle school child who is stomping his feet when he starts losing a football game because he doesn't know the rules. >> with all due respect -- >> go ahead, lisa. >> well, carol, one thing to note regarding donald trump
right now, i don't think he cares about the rules. donald trump is the king making a shiny object to direct attention away from the fact that ted cruz has been winning these delegates. donald trump is a master puppete puppeteer, a master at driving headlines and the media and that's what he's doing right now. he wants to take the focus away from ted cruz winning these delegates, working the system over in colorado and wyoming, and bring the attention on the fact the system is rigged, it's us against me. that's the narrative he's been driving. it's smart from a communications standpoint. i think it's very smart, but that's exactly what he's been trying to do, so i think we need to sort of look beyond the rules necessarily and actually look at the fact that this is what donald trump has been doing is creating a shiny object. look over there. >> so, jeffrey -- we've got to get jeffrey in here. he's a trump supporter. >> one of the things we're not discussing her, in terms of the new york primary tomorrow which donald trump is at this point apparently set to run away with,
the republican nominee for president has to carry the northeastern united states. they've got to get back into the northeastern united states. senator cruz has shown no ability to do this. he's running second to governor kasich or third actually to governor kasich in new york. ronald reagan was able to carry not only new york but massachusetts and pennsylvania and new jersey. you've got to be able to do that if you're a successful republican presidential nominee. the reason president bush 43 won by the skin of his teeth is because he was able to get, what, florida's 537 votes and the supreme court to get him into the white house. he lost those states. we have to do better with that and senator cruz is not showing the ability to do that. >> i want to move on to the new york values comment because a lot of people have said that ted cruz's use of that term hurt him. he justified using new york values in a negative way on
"gma" by attributing the remark to donald trump and his support of partial birth abortion. is that effective? >> oh, my goodness -- >> american conservatives all across the country know what ted cruz meant by that, and it was donald trump -- >> like jeffrey said, he's got to attract more than ultra conservatives, right? >> pardon me? >> in that sense he has to attract more than just conservatives, right? he needs to broaden his base. >> oh, but he is. listen, ted cruz is bringing around the republicans of all stripes who are supporting him. five of the presidential candidates on the republican side are now supporting him. he's unifying this party like never before, and i'll tell you what's going to happen, as we get closer and closer to each state, what we see happening is people are hearing ted cruz's message, they're realizing jobs, freedom, security is what they're interested in. today is tax day.
your viewers right now, like all families across america, are kind of grumpy today because we have this onerous tax system. ted cruz's simple flat tax plan will eliminate this onerous process. 10% across the board tax for individuals. >> we're running out of time. i want to ask lisa this question because she's my neutral party. you just heard rebecca say ted cruz is uniting the party and his base are broadening. are those things true? >> i think it's a tough call right now. yes, he's gotten jeb bush, yes, he's gotten mitt romney, senator lindsey graham, but senator lindsey graham framed his endorsement in terms where he has previously said picking between donald trump and ted cruz is like getting shot or poisoned. so i think people are coming on board, but they are doing so tepidly. that being said, the reality is this thing is going to go until june 7th. we'll have to go down to the wire with states like california and potentially even beyond to a
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elected. >> you've been saying these things for a long time. you haven't been able to achieve what you're saying you'll be able to achieve now. fair criticism? >> not really. when you're a member of congress, you have a certain role to play and i'm very proud of my role and i will compare it to secretary clinton's any day. she was in the senate for eight years. we passed a major bill to improve veterans health care. a major provision of the affordable health care. $11 million for community health centers. major piece of environmental legislation. president is in a different position. >> cnn's chris frates joins me with more on this. he didn't exactly answer the question. that's what we were talking about when we were listening to that. >> that's exactly right. although bernie sanders getting some help from george clooney this weekend. clooney hosting a big fund-raiser for hillary clinton, $350,000 for a vip ticket, but then when he was asked on one of the news shows about that fund-raiser, he agreed with the host saying that it was a ridiculous and obscene amount of money, which dove tails very
nicely into bernie sanders' message. in fact, george clooney said he supports sanders' position on the fact that there's too much money in politics and we heard from bernie sanders at a big rally in brooklyn hitting hillary clinton for taking all that money. but bernie sanders was not the only person taking on hillary clinton. donald trump on the republican side of the aisle also hitting and giving hillary clinton one of his patented two-word nicknames. >> i don't respond to donald trump and his string of insults about me. i can take care of myself. i look forward to running against him if he turns out to be the republican nominee if i am the democratic nominee. what i'm concerned about is how he goes after everybody else. he goes after women. he goes after muslims. he goes after immigrants. he goes after people with disabilities. he is hurting our unity at home. he is undermining the values that we stand for in new york and across america, and he's hurting us around the world. he can say whatever he wants to say about me. i really could care less.
>> now, of course, there's hillary clinton responding to donald trump calling her crooked hillary, so you expect to hear that a little more on the campaign trail as donald trump tries to pivot to the general election. hillary clinton doing the same thing. they're both the front-runners here in new york. they're looking for big wins and they're both trying to start to take each other on as they look toward november. >> i think they more than started to take each other on. chris frates, thanks so much. i want to bring in bill press, the host of "the bill press show" and author of "buyers remorse: how obama let progressives down. ryan lizza and michael nutter. >> hi, carol. >> michael, i want you to listen to something sanders said this morning on cnn. he was talking about newtown families and suing gun manufacturers. >> newtown suit is you put them in the video games, marnlt them to the young, you tell people they're tools of empowerment,
that they make you cool -- >> it's an ugly thing. >> i'm not saying they'd win the suit, but do you think they should be able to sue? >> obviously they should and they are suing and they -- >> you said no. >> well, within a broader context. do i think somebody should be held liable is what i said for selling a legal product? should somebody have the right to sue and make their case? of course they should. >> okay. so that seemed to be at odds with what bernie sanders told the new york daily news editorial board back on april 1st. listen to this. >> do i think the victims of a crime with a gun should be able to sue the manufacturer, that's your question? >> correct. >> no, i don't. >> michael, weigh in and, bill, don't worry, i will get to you next. >> okay. >> michael, everybody accuses hillary clinton of tailoring her message because of what bernie sanders is saying but is it vice versa this time around or has bernie sanders been consistent? >> well, senator sanders has not been consistent, at least in this exchange. he's been very consistent up
until now laying out the case that he supported the legislation, he voted for the legislation to provide immunity to the gun manufacturers who are the only industry in the united states of america that enjoy that immunity. now, all of a sudden, in new york and then leading into next week in the five atlantic states' elections, he seems to be changing his message. that's not an adjustment. that's an actual change or just complete confusion. the senator often likes to have a nuanced position that somehow he threads the needle in explaining that he likes some part of a piece of legislation, dislikes another part of a piece of legislation, and uses that as justification for being for something or against something. i have been a legislator. you can't get away with that. if you voted for it, you voted for it. if you vetted against it, you voted against it and these are just kind of jedi mind gasms mee
senator seems to be engaging in? >> bill, is bernie sanders guilty of jedi mind games? >> i do agree with mayor nutter on that one point. hillary clinton voted for the war in iraq and so she's got to live with that and she can't have it any other way. she supported the keystone pipeline. she's got to live with that. if we really want to get down to the -- to the rigid principle the mayor enunciated. >> carol, i think we're talking about it's gun manufacturers. >> may i, may i, may i, please. >> yes, we were actually, bill. >> i personally believe that gun manufacturers should be held liable for any gun -- any crime committed with any gun, so i disagree with my candidate. but i do think what bernie is saying is he's making a distinction between anybody who sells a legal gun being liable for a lawsuit and those who sell first an illegal gun, those who sell multiple guns, those who sell multiple rounds of
ammunition or those who sell assault weapons which he believes should be illegal. that's the distinction i believe he's making and that's a good start. i like that. >> so, ryan, will this issue resonate in new york preprimary? >> i think so. the gun issue is probably the issue that hillary clinton has used most effectively against bernie sanders. you know, she's sort of struggled to find some issues where she could get to the let of sanders, right, in a democratic primary, where there's a lot more liberal voters. that's what you want to do, and this gun issue with bernie sanders who had a fairly conservative record because he's from vermont and he, you know, was a little bit worried about the nra spending money against him in his races, and, frankly, he was voting his constituents in vermont. it's a pretty pro-gun right state, and i think it has mattered and will continue to matter and, you know, putting aside the merits of the legislation, i do think that sanders has, as those two clips
showed, struggled to explain what he believes on this issue and struggled to get into the intricacies of it. it seems to me, and this is a little speculative, that he supported this legislation because he's from vermont and because it was an issue that was important to gun rights voters in vermont, and he didn't really think through the implications if he were a presidential candidate. >> on the other hand, michael, hillary clinton is still sort of suffering from bernie sanders' attacks that, you know, she's a big money politician, so you have to wonder which issue will trump the other. >> well, that was a good pun, carol. >> sorry. >> first of all, let's reiterate, senator sanders -- >> i was going to say which issue will have the force with him. >> senator sanders voted for that legislation for immunity. that is not in dispute here at all. with regard to the issue that you raised, secretary clinton has the hillary victory fund,
which actually the two big fund-raisers that you referenced actually helps to raise money not just for her but also for the democratic national committee and for 32 state committees all across the united states of america to help those committees with get out the vote activities, et cetera, et cetera. she's raised about $27 million. $22 million of which has gone to those other efforts, not just herself. senator sanders has a victory fund as well and as jonathan capehart pointed out about 2 1/2 weeks ago, he's done virtually nothing to help the party or those 32 democratic state committees all across the united states of america. you should check out the article. so this money is not all for her. it's actually for party building and state committees all across the united states of america because she's a real democrat who is trying to help other democrats across the country. senator sand ertion -- >> real democrat, real democrat, bill. >> senator sanders and his campaign and his ads that he gets to run because he's keeping
all the money that he's raising from the democrats. >> is that true, bill? >> well, first of all, look, bernie sanders may not have been a registered democrat all his life. he's voted for the 16 years in congress and 8 years in the senate with the democratic caucus 95% of the time. he is a registered democrat today. i think the real question is not is he a real democrat, but why are so many democrats voting for him? and on the money issue, i have got to say, look, i'm not sure this is going to be the defining issue in the new york primary or any primary, but there's a clear contrast. hillary clinton's doing it the old-fashioned way for the most part, the vast part, with a super pac and maxing out big donors. bernie sanders has no pac. he's doing it a whole new way. no pac at all and all small donations. i might add, bernie sanders has done fund-raising letters for the democratic senate campaign committee. bernie sanders -- i get maybe two or three e-mails a day from the sanders' campaign asking me
for money for other progressive candidates around the country. i just think mayor nutter is behind the times on this. he doesn't know what's going on. >> all right. so, ryan, last question -- >> you need to read john than capehart's piece. >> i read it. it stinks. >> how do you really feel about it, bill? >> last question to you. >> it's just not true. it's not true. that's all. it's not true. >> i need a prediction, ryan. what do you think will happen in the state of new york on primary day? right now the polls show hillary clinton still ahead by about 12 points. >> dangerous to make predictions in this campaign, as we've seen, but i think we all know and expect that hillary clinton is going to win her home state of new york. you know what matters will be the margin. can bernie sanders keep it close? if he does win, it will be an earthquake that will completely reset the democratic race. >> all right. i have to leave it there. bill press, ryan lizza, mayor
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we are hours away from voters hitting the polls in new york. 95 republican delegates at stake, and while the numbers are showing donald trump with a strong lead in the state, the numbers are also showing something else, his unpopularity in the very city he calls home, new york city. many people in the big apple viewing his candidacy as
distasteful and offensive. will that be a big problem for the billionaire? with me now is ed cox, chairman of the republican party of the state of new york. welcome, sir. >> good to be with you, carol. >> are people in new york city embarrassed by mr. trump? because the polls show he's going to win new york state by a huge margin. >> he's going to do very well. new york city is probably his weakest place, and there kasich and maybe cruz could pick off a few delegates and then as you move up the hudson valley, trump does very well there, but beyond that in north country, albany, north country down through central new york, he's going to have some problems there, and i think that kasich could pick off some delegates. >> but donald trump is a son of new york city. why wouldn't he win new york city big? >> well, i think it's part of the electorate in new york. they don't -- it's not a republican city necessarily, although out of five of the last six mayoral elections, the mayor
was elected on the republican ticket so they are willing to vote for republicans in new york city. >> why hasn't ted cruz resonated in new york city? >> it may not quite be his place since he did contrast new york city with the rest of the country at one point. in fact, new york state generally, and, of course, he's explained that in terms of this is liberal -- >> that was a big mistake, even in republican circles in new york? >> well, republican voters are pretty discerning voters, but he could still do very well in some places in new york state. >> but still you think john kasich might do better. >> that's what the polls show, and the district by district polls show that also. but donald trump has to do very, very well. his own people say he needs at least 80 out of the 95 delegates in order to go forward to winning on first ballot. >> so let's talk about donald trump's calling the system rigged and crooked.
what do you say? >> well, he's talking about colorado and wyoming, and actually those are wake-up calls for him. good wake-up calls. he needed to get an organization behind him, not just donald trump running the campaign. and that's what he's doing now by bringing on paul manafort and actually rick wily, who was a little director of the rnc and is close to reince priebus. while he's being critical of reince priebus, at the time he's bringing in someone who is very close to the rnc. he's going to need to have the republican national committee and the 50 state parties in order -- if he were to be the nominee to have a successful general election campaign. >> going back to colorado and wyoming, should she change the systems? should delegates pick the candidates or should it be a primary like new york state has? >> this is the party of selecting a candidate who can win in the general election, and it's good to have popularity within the party, but you also need to be well organized, and
the fact that in colorado you had to have a very good organization in order to win that convention, i think donald trump now understands he needs to get that kind of an organization in place. so it's a plus from that point of view. >> a plus from that point of view, but at the very core, you know, should the system there be changed in colorado and wyoming because a lot of people say people didn't cast a single vote. there's something wrong with that. >> well, as a group they did. it was a very large group. it was tens of thousands of republicans, and this is the party in each state doing it according to the rules that have been set for a long period of time. >> would that ever be done in new york state? >> here we are doing it the new york state republican way, and that is the candidates have to campaign in every congressional district, and if they want to get three delegates, they have to get a majority. if they only get a plurality, then the person who comes in
second gets one so it's worthwhile for that other person to campaign for that extra delegate. this is our big new hampshire moment here, and to have the candidates campaigning all around the state has been great for the republican party. >> all right. ed cox, thanks so much for stopping by. >> a pleasure to be with you. still to come in the "newsroom," new information about american boots on the ground in iraq as the defense secretary makes an unannounced trip to the war-torn country. we've got trouble in tummy town. peptocopter! ♪ when cold cuts give your belly thunder,
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breaking news now. new information about the future of american troops on the ground in iraq. cnn's chief national security correspondent jim sciutto has more. good morning. >> good morning, carol. secretary carter on an unannounced visit to iraq announcing while he was there that the u.s. is sending 200 new
troops to iraq, to be exact 217 new troops. they will be advisers. they will also be security forces there and aviation forces, that final piece, because the u.s. is also sending apache attack helicopters in. this is something that the u.s. has actually been pushing the iraqis for for some time. why these troops now? they're going to be involved in this push to retake that key northern city of mosul. it's an isis stronghold. iraqi forces have been moving closer. this is a major prize in this evident to unseat isis from iraq, and i would also add this, carol. this is very key because it speaks to the danger that these u.s. troops will be facing. they will be allowed to be at the brigade and battalion level as opposed to just higher up at the division level. what that means is they will be a lot closer to the front lines, a lot closer to combat, and, therefore, in greater danger, and we've seen u.s. troops lost in some of the fighting just over the last several months. final note i would say is this
now pushes the number of u.s. troops in iraq over 4,000. nothing near the levels of 150,000 that we had several years ago, but it's been rising steadily over these last weeks and months. carol? >> all right, jim sciutto reporting live for us this morning. thank you. saudi arabia being blamed for a drop in world markets after they scuttled a meeting with the world's top oil producers in doha, but so far the stock market in the u.s. is making gains. the dow is up 60 points. oil prices are down. the doha talks were aimed at cutting back the supply of oil. that means the current glut can continue and continue driving prices down. i'll be right back.
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show. this is amazing. i am still walking away thinking was i really in the persian gulf on this aircraft carrier? yes, the answer is yes. and thank you so much to the u.s. navy for offering me this extraordinary exclusive rare look at essentially a carrier strike group 8. 6600 men and women, average age 27. when we talk about our next commander in chief what about talking to the people who are fighting for us overseas? >> reporter: this is the u.s. navy's front line of the war on terror in the persian gulf. lieutenant commander kate batten deployed two weeks after the paris terror attacks and her resolve only deepened after the recent bloodshed in brussels. >> that is exactly why we're out here. if anything, it gives us that much more purpose and resolve to ensure that we're doing things
the right way and that we leave this region better than we found it. >> reporter: when you put on your flight gear, what does that feel like? >> it's interesting because it's a routine now. it's something i do every day, so a lot of times i don't think about it, but when i sit back and think what does this really mean, it kind -- i still get goose bumps every time i take a catapult off. >> reporter: operation inherent resolve is by no means a man's mission. batten is the senior female aviator on this hulking aircraft carrier, the "uss harry s. truman" full of fighter jets ready to strike isis. this right here is a bomb. it's not live. often times these pilots don't know what the specific isis target is until they're already in the air. batten flies an e-2, protecting
those jets. her aircraft, one of the most essential for carrier operations acting like air-traffic control in the skies above iraq. for those pilots who are getting the coordinates to drop the b , bomb, how serious do they take their job? >> we do meticulous planning every day for whatever mission we're performing, and i know they don't take the responsibility lightly. >> reporter: orchestrated, coordinated terrorist attacks happening in the west. >> right. >> reporter: is that frustrating to you, discouraging given everything happening in the gulf? >> i would say it's disappointing. it's disappointing that we have human beings that would do that to other human beings. on the other hand, it's motivating and is assuring that the mission that we're on is very righteous. >> reporter: what does ultimately success or victory look like? >> yeah. i think it looks like violent
extremism being eradicated, and i don't know that we achieve that on this deployment. >> reporter: here on the "uss harry s. truman" this is known as a cat shot. there are about 90 sorties of these f-18s per day and when you feel this afterburn of these jets, let me tell you, it makes your teeth rattle. >> i bet it makes everything rattle. >> i can still feel the afterburn in my chest. it's the most extraordinary noise and feelings. from me to you, i was watching everybody on the deck when an aircraft carrier is color coded and the red shirts are rolling the bombs to the f-18s, strapping them on and up and away they go. we talk about here we are day before the new york primary, these candidates are talking about the war on terror, but to see it firsthand, it was
extraordinary. >> how long do they stay on the aircraft carrier before they get to get a break? >> that's a great question. i think they would like the answer to that some of them. they're currently seven months into deployment. they all left norfolk in photograph after paris happened. they were planning on deploying then, and like they sort of tell you unofficially, you always have to be flexible. we can relate to that in a much different way, but many of them, around especially wanted to talk about the women and later on my show at 2:00 eastern i feature a number of women including a 22-year-old who joined the navy because she wants to become a nurse. she is driving that aircraft carrier in the middle of the persian gulf. >> i'm going to watch because i want to hear what they say about the people who think women can't serve and fight alongside men. give me a break. >> they got that. thanks, carol. >> brooke baldwin, thanks so much. thank you for joining me today. i'm carol costello. "at this hour with berman and bolduan" after a break.
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there is no business like convention business. donald trump says he wants showbiz at the convention. bring on the jazz hands. the rnc reacts moments from now. so can they stay or should they do? protests under way at the supreme court as justices hear the huge case over the president's controversial presidential action. the future of millions of immigrants could hang in the balance. moments from now we'll hear what happened inside. booted from the plane. a muslim student says an airline kicked him off because he was speaking arabic. we'll speak with him live. hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. >>