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available. subscribe at cnnmoney.com/media. we'll see you next week. stay tuned. "state of the union" with jake tapper starts right now. tale of two trumps. his advisers are promising a kinder, gentler candidate but he seems to be having second thoughts. >> if i acted presidential, i guarantee you that this morning i wouldn't be here. >> can either version carry him to the nomination or will it all come down to a convention fight? >> i'll have a ton of delegates. donald trump will have a ton of delegates and then it will be a battle. >> plus donald's defender. >> they are deathly afraid of my father on both sides because of what he'll do to that system that they've grown very, very comfortable with. >> many see trump's family as his secret weapon. his oldest son gives us the inside view on the world according to trump. plus, hillary clinton on the
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hunt for a vice president. is elizabeth warren in the running? >> men, women, i'm going to be looking at anybody who can fit that role for me. >> and does that mean clinton is blowing off bernie sanders? he'll be here live. plus the best political minds will be here with insights from the campaign trail. hello i'm jake tapper in washington, where the state of our union is vetting, that's right, america. your veep stakes seem to have officially begun. report in the "new york times" today claiming that hillary clinton has already compiled a list of 15 to 20 potential vice presidential picks. on the list according to the "new york times" progressive leaders, senators elizabeth warren and sherrod brown. both senators from the swing commonwealth of virginia, tim kaine and warner. julio castro, former governor deval patrick of massachusetts
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and senators amy klobuchar, bill nelson and bill booker. clinton was mum when asked about this topic on the campaign trail yesterday. >> has your campaign started to consider who to pick for vp? >> i'm just working hard to win on tuesday. >> at the very least it seems to signal that clinton is ready to move past the primaries, while her opponent, bernie sanders, insists that the fight is far from over. joining me now is democratic presidential candidate bernie sanders, joining me from the great state of rhode island. senator, thanks so much for joining us. >> great to be with you, jake. >> senator, according to the "new york times," hillary clinton started compiling a list of 15 to 20 potential vp picks that she wants to start vetting in late spring. broadly, regardless of which of the two of you ultimately wins the democratic nomination, should the other one be first on the vp list? >> look i'm focusing right now on dealing with why the middle class of this country continues to disappear. why would the only country on
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earth that doesn't provide paid family and medical leave, why we don't guarantee health care to all of our people. i was in baltimore yesterday, the level of poverty is unbelievable. we have to rebuild our inner cities. the american people want us to focus on the real issues impacting them, how their kids can afford to go to college, not worry who is going to be a vice presidential candidate. >> then broadly speaking on those issues, if you don't win the nomination does hillary clinton need an outspoken progressive, someone like you or elizabeth warren as her running mate to monitor supporters and those issues you just talked about are on the forefront? >> well i think that hillary clinton or bernie sanders or donald trump, whoever became the nominee needs to start talking to the real issues facing the american people, and that is that we have a grotesque level of income and wealth inequality. jake, how often do we talk about on television that the 20 wealthiest people in this
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country now own more wealth than the bottom 150 million people, that in fact we are seeing public school systems one end of this country in serious, serious trouble. we are seeing kids graduating college deeply in debt, all of the candidates need to focus on those issues and vice presidential candidates need to do the same. that's what i'm trying to do in this campaign, why we have come from 3% in the polls to tying or in some cases being ahead of secretary clinton in national polls. >> david plouffe, barack obama's 2008 campaign manager who we should say is now supporting hillary clinton, plouffe had some strong words for you on twitter. he wrote "sanders has run a stunningly strong campaign fueled by passionate supporters but raising money stating that you have path to nomination is fraud." what's your response to plouffe? >> well my response is that david plouffe is working for hillary clinton. the idea that we should not vigorously contest this election
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when the largest state in the united states of america, california, has not yet voted, nine other states will not have voted after tuesday. of course we're going to give every, the people in every state in this country the right to determine who they want to see president of the united states, what kind of agenda they want. jake, when we began this campaign, we were way, way behind. i think it is fair to say that we have the momentum, we have the energy, that we are bringing millions of people into the political process. what is good for america, what is good for the democratic party is to see a whole lot of people debating the real issues impacting our country, that's how you have a large voting turnout. when you have a large voter turnout democrats and progressives win. >> do you have a path to the nomination, sir? in what states can you win so overwhelmingly that you can overtake her ultimately in the pledged delegate count? >> well i'm not going to tell you that it's easy but i think we do.
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what polls seem to be showing that many of the states yet to come, including california, our largest state, we have a real shot to win and i think also there are a lot of delegates out there who are looking at the general matchup and what they're seeing in polls is that bernie sanders is running a lot stronger against donald trump than hillary clinton because we can appeal to a lot of independents and people not just the democrats. so i think we do have a path to victory. i think we have come a very, very long way in the last year, and we're going to fight for every last vote until california and the d.c. primary. >> senator, president obama told the bbc today he does not think the military campaign against isis won't be completed before he takes office. there are around 5,000 u.s. troops fighting isis in iraq and syria. is the u.s. at war in the middle east again, and does congress need to pass a new authorization for use of military force so the next president, which could be you, has a clear authority to wage this war?
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>> well, i would like to see an authorization. the question obviously is what is in that authorization, and jake, i will oppose any authorization that gives us just a wide open approach to getting involved in to perpetual war in the middle east. i think the president has done a good job in trying to balance the need to destroy isis. we've got to put together a coalition of the muslim nations. i voted against the war in iraq, one of the differences that i have with secretary clinton i'll do everything i can to make sure that our men and women in the military are not sucked in to perpetual war there. >> you were asked this weekend about why hillary clinton beats you in states where income inequality is most stark and you responded that "because poor people don't vote." it was hillary clinton, not you who carried democratic voters with household incomes below $50,000 a year.
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clinton carried the group 55% to 45% in primary states where exit polls had been conducted. >> let me say this. one of the reasons i am running for president of the united states is to try to revitalize american democracy. it is no secret we have one of the lowest voting turnout rates of any major country on earth and it is also true the last general election we had in 2014, 63% of the american people didn't vote and the numbers were worse for low income people and the numbers were worse for young people. so what we have got to do, jake, is to not only overturn this disastrous citizens united supreme court decision so that superpacs are not able to buy elections. we've got to involve people, it's not easy. so many people have given up on the political process, including a lot of low income people where the voting rates are in fact quite low, young people who are not voting in large numbers.
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our job is to bring people into the political process, to create a government which represents all of us and not just the 1%. if there's a thing i'm trying to do in this campaign that's precisely what i'm trying to do, increase the number of lower income people who are voting, working people who are voting, young people who are voting, revitalize american democracy and when we do that i think we begin to change the dynamic of government in america where it's not just big money interest who make the decisions but ordinary people. >> are you surprised that you consistently lose lower income americans to hillary clinton? >> well, i am surprised at how well we have done in this campaign. jake, if you and i were talking 11, 11 1/2 months ago you would not believe where we are now, you would not believe we have won 16 states at this point and we're running very close secretary clinton in general election matchups and in fact beating trump by rather large numbers. i'm very proud of the campaign
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that we have run and the kinds of support we are getting. >> there is a lot of concern about what kind of damage you or hillary clinton might be doing to one another. one of your high profile surrogates actress rosario dawson invoked monica lewinsky at one of your rallies. do you think it's appropriate to be talking to monica lewinsky on the campaign trail? >> rosario is a great actress and a passionate fighter to see the voter turnout, racial, economic environmental justice. what our job right now is to contrast our views compared to secretary clinton. that's what a campaign is about. my own view is we should break up the large financial institutions on wall street. i'm opposed to fracking and by the way we just won a good victory in new york state the other day, major fracking program has been killed. i think we have got to ask the wealthy and large corporations to start paying their fair share
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of taxes. what i will be doing in this campaign is an issue-oriented way, not by personal attacks. >> right, but that's -- >> -- but by contrasting our view to hillary clinton. >> yes or no should your surrogates be talking about monica lewinsky. >> i have no idea in what context rosario was talking about her. i hope all of our people focus on the real issues facing working people and the massive level of income and wealth today. it might be good for television networks to start about the planetary crisis of climate change because the scientists tell us if we do not transform our energy system away from fossil fuels, energy efficiency and sustainable energy we should worry about the planet we're leaving our kids and grandchildren. >> thank you, senator, good luck on tuesday. >> thank you, jake. coming up, donald trump says his family is always asking him to act more presidential. what do they think of this new supposedly toned down trump we've been seeing?
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welcome back. donald trump's campaign has been signaling a shift to a more restrained donald trump. the republican establishment might be able to swallow as their nominee. but is it the real deal and can donald resist the public persona that has gotten him this far? joining me now from outside scranton in pennsylvania is donald trump jr. thanks so much for joining us, don. we really appreciate it. >> my pleasure, jake, how are you doing? >> so take a look at what your father's new campaign manager told the republican national committee this week according to the "new york times." "addressing about 100 committee members at the meeting mere, many of them deeply skeptical about mr. trump's candidacy. the campaign chief paul manafort
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bluntly suggested the candidate's incendiary style" amounted to an act." you know your dad almost better than anyone in the world. what part are we seeing is the part he's been playing? >> listen, jake, there's aspects of things he'll take things to a level that they need to be taken to, to be able to draw attention to it. if you look at any of the issues he's spoken about he'll talk about them in a way no one else has and take them to a certain level. issue that was taboo, no one wanted to touch, people are talking about it, so it's not that it's an act but sometimes he has to talk about things in a certain way to draw the requisite attention that that topic needs. no one else will touch it if he hasn't done that. for him this is a natural evolution, switching over, getting focussed on the general election he has to talk to the broader audience. it's a natural progression. >> he talks about building a wall or deporting 11 million people in this country undocumented immigrants, is that just playing a part or that
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could be taken literally? >> i think that's to be taken literally. he's the only person talking about that. everyone else jumps on the band wagon after he says it, three weeks later everyone else once he's taken the heat and criticism, then everyone else jumps on, wait a minute this is a winning idea, something that makes sense and they do it. he's the only one of the candidates that ever had an original thought in years. >> bottom line we should take him at face value but there might be some rhetorical flourish in there? >> i think without question, yes, that's only natural. i see that in politics all the time, everyone pretends that's not the case but that's very much what i've seen. >> a republican committeewoman in maryland had advice for your father. >> my advice to mr. trump is be mr. art of the deal. it is up to you to go out there and win those delegate votes vote by vote and fight for them. >> so are you or your sister ivanka, eric or any other member
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of your family planning to help your dad woo delegates one by one on behalf of your father? >> you know, i think we'll do some of that. i think that's natural but you know, i think his biggest thing is, wanting to change the process. the fact that the average voter doesn't even know that their vote may not matter or that their vote matters but if you don't talk about the delegates, my father can do more wooing than anyone. why should a couple people who are establishment elitist get to go on beautiful vacations. he could take them to doral and play golf for a week and we win that delegate. that's the not the way this country should be run, jake. i'm here with two congressmen from the state of pennsylvania we have to print out cards because every district of the hundreds of districts in the state have three people that could serve as delegates for us or someone else. you could win the state in a landslide and of 97 delegates there you only get 17. the other 50 and change are up for grabs for whoever bribes them. this isn't america. this isn't a country.
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this is the way it's been and some of the systems i understand, they made sense, 200 years ago, when everyone lived on a farm in the middle of nowhere. i have the library of congress in my iphone. i have all the information i could possibly need. most people have cable television and access to news. they don't need the archaic system. the establishment, guys like ted cruz love this system. they don't have to appeal to the voters or care what the voters say. they have to grab the umpteen people who have been party loyalists and do whatever the party says. that's the problem in washington what creates the stalemate. >> so are -- >> let me finish. the one thing i'll say i know guys involved in the political process in this state and other states for a long time, they had no idea. people supported at a high level congressmen, senators, and they had no idea this is the process, basically people could be bought this way. the american people are finally catching on. they should be and are disgusted. >> you don't like the system i understand. are you going to try to woo delegates according to the
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system and try to change it or your dad saying no, we're not going to do that. >> i think we're going to do what we need to do at a point. we want to win without having to do that. ted cruz has no chance of winning this without bribing the delegates. that's his game at this point. he's mathematically eliminated but that's his game from day one he's not appealing to the voters. he'll lose more states than mitt romney. i can't name a single state that mitt lost that ted can possibly win. so i think at this point the republican establishment would much rather just hand the things over to hillary, hand the reins over to her and let her run it. guess what? there's no accountability in the party. you lose, it doesn't matter. you win, okay, great, you win. because everyone's in on the same thing. all their job is to do is to protect the little cliques they formed to keep the paychecks rolling from special interests and the same thing with the delegate process we're seeing today. >> don, just to reiterate
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something you just said you think the republican establishment would rather run ted cruz and lose with him than have your father be the nominee? >> you know, there are decisions that are being made and there's things that i see and actions happening that make me really question whether they actually want someone who could win when i see the people in this state, i'm in pennsylvania, who switched over and hundreds of thousands of people switched over from being independent to being republican, switched over from being democrats to being republicans and they don't embrace that. they want to try to push someone else who has zero chance of winning anywhere else? doesn't make any sense to me. i question their motives. >> ted cruz launched a web video this week attacking your father saying transgender individuals should be able to use whatever restroom is appropriate. take a look. >> people go, they use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate.
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>> donald trump won't take on the pc police, that ad said. he's one of them. what do you make of that? what do you think ted cruz means by "he's one of them." >> honestly jake, give me a break. this is how desperate ted cruz is. he doesn't have any support from anyone. my father's taken on the pc police from day one. the issues ted cruz is trying to make his own, whether it be immigration, whether it's all these things, they were all my father's issues. these are the things my father would take the heat, take the incoming fire from everyone else and ted cruz will run along say this is a great idea i have. it's such a joke. if there's one person anyone who is an american if you asked who is the most un-pc candidate running for office is my father. this is a typical ted cruz sound bite. he wins by basically bribing delegates. it's laughable when i have seen it. i haven't seen it until you
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mentioned it to me. it's ridiculous in my mind. >> you described your dad as a blue collar billionaire. the federal minimum wage is $7 an hour, works out to be about $15,000 a year. do you think your father would be willing to make a deal to raise the minimum wage? >> you know, i don't know. there's a lot of different places, areas in the country where equal wages it's different. i live in new york city. it's a very different sort of area where you can live by. i think you'd have to ask him directly as it relates to his policy on the minimum wage. i think what he wants to do is bring jobs back to this country. he wants to bring back so much of the industry that's been pushed away, whether it be by just terrible tax incentives for this country, whether it be by just bad guys running the businesses. he wants to bring manufacturing back to this country. he wants to bring jobs back to this country. he wants to employ americans again and when you have a robust economy you don't have to worry
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about a minimum wage. people will actually be paid wages. you need those jobs. >> your father is campaigning manager paul manafort says your father has not started a vetting process to look for a running mate, to look for a vice president. in contrast to ted cruz and john kasich. is there a deal to be made do you think with the vp position maybe to bring rubio or kasich or one of those other candidates on board? is that why there hasn't been the vetting process begun? >> well listen, i think we have a little bit of time. again, we want to get there probably without it so that we can make a decision when we need to, not just before the convention. i think there's a lot of viable candidates out there. i think maybe some of those could be people who have run against us in this. i think my father's been clear about one thing, he would want someone who has navigated the d.c. waterways a little bit more than he has. he's the disrupter but you still need someone with that understanding.
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there's probably quite a few good options. we haven't started the serious vetting process. we'll get there on our own without having to make that decision today. >> donald trump jr. thank you for joining us today. really, really appreciate it. >> it's my pleasure, jake, thank you for having me. coming up, is trump going through an evolution or an about-face? >> he is the harry houdini engaged in an act of misdirection. trump is a phony, and i will give him credit. he's telling us he's a phony. he's telling us he's lying to us. (vo) whatever your perfect temperature... you'll enjoy consistent comfort with the heating and air conditioning systems homeowners rank number one. american standard heating and air conditioning.
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so lyin' ted took a really nice meeting with the rnc, republican national committee. had took a really, really -- rafael. yep, rafael, straight out of the hills of canada. four years in canada, was a canadian citizen until 14, 15
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months ago. >> meet the new trump, same as the old trump after promising to act more "presidential" the candidate was up to his old tricks on the campaign trail yesterday. does trump have to pivot to win? with me here andre bauer, trump supporter and former lieutenant governor of south carolina, neera tanden, and former policy adviser to clinton, mary katharine ham conservative, just says "conservative" there on the teleprompter, conservative writer and jon jealous, cnn political writer and supporting bernie sanders, so let's just start with this new presidential trump, doesn't sound all that different from the old guy. >> i have said all along he's going to say he'll pivot to being presidential. i don't think he's capable of it. he cannot put a lid on his id. he is donald trump. that's who he is. donald trump is not an ideological creature but he is a creature of habit and of
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personality and this is what you're going to see the entire time. >> there is a philosophy amongst some in the trump camp that let donald be donald but there also is this new group, paul manafort and rick wiley and others think he needs to rein it in a little. >> donald trump is an authentic real candidate. that's why he's attracting so many new folks. the republican party ought to be elated they're getting new people in. the big tent theory, the democratic party has done a better job attracting new voters. you have a candidate that's authentic. he's not scripted and yes he hasn't been to the political school where they teach you how to do everything just right and that's what's refreshing about donald trump. >> you look like you have something to say neera. >> he's definitely not been to a school where they teach you what to do all right, that's true. what is happening here is the delegate dance as far as i can see. you have trump trying to or his forces saying trump is trying to be more presidential. he's taking some moderated positions on north carolina and
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other issues, and still in the heart of the primary, so you see cruz trying to attack him on the more moderated positions so i think it is a hard thing to try and move to the middle on some issues, and then also take all this coming from the right, so it will be an interesting balance to see whether he can do it. >> the thing about that, we shouldn't pretend it's strategic him taking positions. the positions are based on who is asking him and what he feels at a given time. i don't think it's a pivot. it's what donald trump feels at the moment. authentic maybe but not actually consistent. >> there are folks trying to get him to be more palatable to the mainstream republican establishment. good luck, but they're trying. >> yes. do you think that donald trump will be a tough general election candidate against whomever the democrats have? >> i've said time and time again when you have a conservative celebrity, people always say they're a joke, and they often win.
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you can go back to ronald reagan, go back to gopher, who ran for congress, fred grandy, jesse "the body" ventura, arnold schwarzenegger. we thought in california cruz bustamonte would be the first latino governor but he wasn't. >> you think let trump be trump, that he got as far as he did speaking his mind and no attempt to rein him in is going to be successful. >> look, there's always ways you can say hey you ought to try to do this or try to do that but the guy is attracting record numbers. he's probably going to win this before you go to cleveland, and -- >> before? >> before. he probably is going to have the delegate count. look happened in new york. cruz was running around hoping he wouldn't get 50%, if he doesn't get 50%. he gets over 60%. he's on fire and it's because people are starved for a leader that isn't saying the same old
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thing. >> just to be clear, donald trump has the highest negatives amongst the broad electorate of any candidate ever. >> true. >> so we can talk about his past but the reality is, women, latinos, the broad group of the electorate -- >> you know -- >> he's very popular amongst republicans. >> the high negatives are doing quite well. >> right, hillary clinton is second worst in the race. >> i think she's third, with cruz. cruz is more negative. >> mazel tov. >> i think we've seen the peak of the celebrity cache in the republican. we've seen him turn numbers around as he did in the primary i think there's a chance of that but the question with donald trump in a general has always been can he add more than he subtracts. if you look at the negatives the answer is no. he may be able to mix up the map a little bit but it's risky. >> i want to go something you all prepared for which is assuming that donald trump gets
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the nomination, and i know that is a huge assumption. >> yes. >> nothing guaranteed but assuming he gets the nomination, whom would you recommend he pick as his vice president? mary katharine? >> a great piece at "the federalist" by molly hemmingway. double down on the reality star thing, mike rowe -- >> cnn star. >> mike rowe speaking for the working class voter longer than donald trump has, very likeable, particularly with women, just go for it. >> if there were a second choice, who would you? >> newt gingrich has shown some affinity for donald trump, he fills in gaps that donald trump doesn't have when it comes to policy. he's been a conservative for many years and in the movement for many years, with missteps here lean it. >> premature veep? >> mike steele, former lieutenant governor of maryland
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quite frankly because i think he would dull the edge of donald trump's hatred. he's somebody who is, you know, a big tent republican, and who folks, people of color, blacks, latinos, you pair him with donald trump might think donald trump is capable of shifting towards humanity. >> what about you, andre? >> of course i'd pick me. >> okay. we didn't prepare that graphic, tell us who you actually picked. >> i think you'll see something different. he won't go with the norm that you pick a battleground state and pick somebody from that state or rival candidate. he'll say who can help me get the job done and i think he needs some balance and i like mary fallin for that reason. she's been in the private sector -- >> governor of oklahoma. >> she's been in the private sector, three-term lieutenant governor, cutting the pension deficit in half, dealt with national disasters, an articulate, well spoken attractive woman that can balance trump i think is the perfect vp candidate.
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>> neera? >> it's premature on both sides. >> of course it's very premature. >> the single issue here is that the republican party seems to be broken, and so i think that he has to take someone who is running and ted cruz is a person who represents conservatives. he's gotten the second most votes. if you're thinking of putting your party back together again. >> all right, there you go. don't go anywhere. up next hillary clinton's advisers are also putting together potential names for a running mate. will she make a bold choice or safe one? the democratic veep stakes heat up. no one's the same without the game of football... like @pigskinsusan15, who writes, "now my boyfriend wants to talk on sundays. just so many words." your boyfriend's got it bad. maybe think about being single until the start of the season.
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i'm looking for a team, and the most important member of that team would be whoever i asked to be my running mate, and i'm not ruling anybody out. >> not ruling anyone out but the
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"new york times" is reporting that clinton has narrowed the list of 15 or so. what about our panel's picks for her? neera, i know i bring you to the hillary veep stakes reluctantly. the caveat you think this is premature. >> yes, very premature. >> it is premature we all agree. let's do it anyway. >> clinton's campaign are not vetting. >> you disagree with the "new york times." pat healey is a pretty good reporter. tell us the "new york times" story notwithstanding whom you would pick for hillary clinton to be a running mate. >> i do think that it's important to speak to the issues that are important in this campaign so i have two candidates. i have to say i love all of them. >> you love them all equally of course. >> senator warren and secretary of labor tom perez are both people who have focused a lot on rising inequality and big champions of addressing the middle class squeeze and i think they're both fantastic candidates, amongst many.
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>> they might help with the left flank a little bit possibly progressives? >> you want to think through who can bring attention to the issues and they'd have great agreement as strong champions. >> let's keep in mind she's only been a government employee and outside of that only on a speaking circuit. >> not true. >> she worked for children's defense fund and a law firm. >> moving on, everything the common man deals with. she needs a businessperson to balance her. i think bloomberg is excellent choice. >> mike bloomberg. >> somebody stands up to bill and doesn't let it be a third bill clinton term. bloomberg has proven himself in the business world and been able to get elected to office. >> ben, you're a bernie sanders' supporter. let's pick a running mate for bernie sanders. who should he run with? >> look, you know, i think that we've got to unite our party.
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stacey abrams, the first woman to lead a party in georgia's house or senate, she's the minority leader of the georgia assembly, she'll be a rock star just mark my words in two or four years. across this country, right now she's a rock star in georgia, a state we need to take back and quite frankly, we don't talk enough about the rising women rock stars in politics in our country. when you get that list, so stacey abrams should absolutely be on that list. >> interesting. who would you pick for the front-runner hillary clinton? >> look at numbers of the head to head contests with any of the republicans right now i don't think she has to be super exciting and i also don't think she has to be super conservative. senator sherrod brown from ohio gives her an ohio cache and progressive and has a good track record in the community and maybe throw votes to pull that together. >> one thing i want to bring up, you saw in the interview with bernie sanders he wouldn't address the fact one of his
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chief surrogates, the fine actress rosario dawson brought up monica lewinsky. let's bring up the context under which dawson brought up lewinsky. >> you're literally under attack for not just supporting the other candidate. now i'm with monica lewinsky with this. bullying is bad. she's actually dedicated her life now to talking about that, and now as a campaign strategy, we are being bullied. >> i have a tough time imagining you, ben, bringing up monica lewinsky as a surrogate for the sanders campaign. what do you think of that? >> advanced clinton first trip back to his home state after that scandal. we're bringing up in the context of i know how sensitive it is, at the same time the reality is if you're a democrat out there for bernie sanders and have rank or visibility you do get bullied and folks have gotten tired of
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it, and two weeks ago, we were told by the clinton campaign they were going to discredit and disqualify our candidate, and they've turned up the heat, frankly, on all of us. that's what she's responding to. now i don't think that she should have brought up monica's name, but the reality is there's a dynamic in our party where the folks in the clinton camp really need to, they said they'd pick up the pieces later. they need to be careful about how many pieces they create. >> who is creating pieces here? for the love of god, to have a democrat talk about monica lewinsky is outrageous and i think the fact that ben can't just simply say that's wrong and condemn it is one of the challenges we're going to have going forward, but i think it's incumbent upon all of us to try and unite. it's harder when you hear things like this and frankly i think the rhetoric actually was one of the reasons why hillary won new york so well because i think the sanders campaign was relatively negative and people reacted to it, but hopefully senator sanders this morning has been,
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was more positive and i hope we can focus on the issues and not personal character. >> do you think monica lewinsky will be brought up by republicans if hillary gets the nomination? >> this is a contact sport. they are not running for chairman of the garden club. they're going to come out with harder stuff than monica lewinsky and trump is going to eat her lunch. >> republicans will make attacks but it's a different thing for democrats. >> it's refreshing to see you guys fight instead of the two of us, but i think there was a better way to make this argument, bring out the gloria steinham quote, madeleine albright saying there's a special place in hill. these are things that happened. monica lewinsky is a real person. >> we have to go i'm sorry i'm being told, we have a commercial break we have to take. coming up, prince played by his own rules and once got him in trouble with the white house. the surprising intersection of prince and politics. (patrick 1) what's it like to be the boss of you? (patrick 2) pretty great. (patrick 1) how about a 10% raise?
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♪ i got the discounts that you need ♪ ♪ safe driver ♪ accident-free ♪ everybody put your flaps in the air for me ♪ welcome back. this week, millions of fans from around the world mourn the sudden death of the music legend prince. ♪ purple rain, purple rain >> with even president obama weighing in on prince's death, it's easy to forget that prince was once at the center of a full-blown washington storm. it's the topic of this week's state of the cartoon. ♪ this is what it sounds like when doves cry ♪ >> this weekend as we all mourn the beloved rock star prince and contemplate how doves are now crying, it's worth remembering one of the most intriguing roles
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this maestro played was in politics. specifically in december 1984 when 11-year-old corenna gore asked her mom tipper to buy her the new album "purple rain." ♪ they put it on and soon enough came track number five "darling nikki." ♪ "purple rain" was immediately confiscated from the gore children. by the next year, tipper and some other washington women had formed the parents music resource center, advocating for parental advisory labels on some albums with adult content, which some stores such as walmart then refused to sell. the pmrc put out what they called the filthy 15, the most objectionable songs, including
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cindy lauper's "she-bop," twisted sister's "we're not gonna take it," and the number one on the filthy fifteen prince's "darling nikki." ♪ >> somebody please think of the children! >> it was a brutal chapter in the culture wars at the time. though in retrospect, both the controversial songs and the warning label sticker may seem like not that big a deal 30 years later. prince, of course, remains a huge deal. rest in peace, your purpleness. >> and don't forget this tuesday, cnn will have special coverage of super tuesday number four. five states. pennsylvania, rhode island, delaware, and connecticut will head to the polls. watch it all unfold right here on cnn. thanks for spending your sunday with us. you can catch me here every sunday and week days on "the lead" at 4:00 p.m. eastern. i'm jake tapper in washington. "fareed zakaria gps" starts next.
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this is "gps," the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. we will begin this show with the prime minister of italy. an exclusive interview on the migrant crisis that is threatening to tear europe apart, on the isis terror threat and on the comparisons between donald trump and silvio berlusconi. >> i consider donald trump a man who invest a lot in a policy of fear. also looking at the migrant crisis from another nation's point of view. lebanon's ed

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