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i'm ashleigh banfield. welcome to "legal view." right now, millions of people are voting in primaries in five different states. it is yet another super tuesday. not so super that donald trump or hillary clinton could wrap up their party's nominations, but they could sweep all five states that are voting as we speak and that could make life super complicated for their rivals. democratic primaries in connecticut, delaware, maryland, pennsylvania, and rhode island
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are offering up a total of 384 delegates. republican primaries in those same states offer 172 delegates and if you like suspense, well, then you've got yourself a pennsylvania. that's the state to watch. we're going to have a whole lot more on why that state is so complicated and so critical. hillary clinton is 429 delegates shy of the number that she needs to clinch the nomination. donald trump is still 391 delegates away to head off the prospect of a floor fight in cleveland come july. i want to begin with jim acosta in philadelphia and brian todd in baltimore. take me to the ballot cam. how is voting going? >> reporter: ashleigh, a lot of enthusiasm today here in maryland. it's clearly a big day in the primary season. you've heard all the nicknames for it. super tuesday 4.0. the amtrak primaries. the fun starts here where the
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voting begins. it's a steady flow at the mount washington lower school in north baltimore. people checking in here. they tell you, you tell them your name, your party affiliation and then they hand you a paper ballot. that's a new feature this year in maryland. they've had digital voting prior to this and now want paper for more transparency to ensure the accuracy of the vote and then you come over here to these voting stations. there are 14 voting stations here in this precinct. you vote by paper and put it in the scanner over here. very steady flow of voters here, ashleigh, but also, early voting is popular inned ma maryland. eight straight days of early voting opportunity and they had a record turnout in maryland. hundreds of thousands of people turned out to poll. this is a very blue state. hillary clinton is counting on maryland to solidify her lead to really cement the lead she has in delegates and everything else. she is expected to do well in
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all five primary states today. maryland should hold for her. she was ahead in the polls coming in here. we've sampled nearly 60 voters as they've come out of here and about two-thirds, almost two-thirds of them say they voted for hillary clinton. they're citing experience and electability. that's what's driving the voter dynamic at least here in this precinct here baltimore. interesting, one political operative here told me a short time ago in maryland, you've got to win in four places. baltimore city. baltimore county. montgomery county and prince georges. those are hillary clinton's strongholds. that's holding true to form today, ash leek. >> it will be a great day. not just in maryland but all five of those states. brian, step aside if you would for a moment because immaterial , i want to go to pennsylvania. have you seen one of the candidates voting but you did see not voting as he's from vermont but a close encounter
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with bernie sanders. >> reporter: that's right, ashleigh. it reminded me of the old days. you'd see the candidate on the street and you might have a chance as a reporter to go up to the candidate and ask a question. that's what happened with bernie sanders. the democratic insurnt candidate walked past us here in philadelphia's city hall. we're normally covering the trump campaign but sanders walked past us and with hillary clinton heavily favored in pennsylvania and all of these states up for grabs today, sanders heard the question all day long. is he feeling the pressure to get out of the race? if hillary clinton has another big night tonight and he was ready for it. he gave us his response. and it was one that he was smiling but a little bit annoyed. here's what he had to say. >> just curious what you're thinking about today. it's expected to be a big day for hillary clinton. are you feeling any pressure to get out of this race? >> have a nice day. i've answered that question 50 times. democracy means that every
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person in this country has a right to cast the vote for president of the united states. we got a message that is resonating. we have won 16 states so far. we have gone from 3% in the polls and some polls are ahead of secretary clinton. we're in this race to win and we've got a good shot to do it. >> how do you feel about donald trump using your comments about secretary clinton? >> reporter: so there you go. did not answer that question about donald trump. now, frequently using what bernie sanders is saying on the campaign trail to go after hillary clinton and is turning her sights to the general election campaign and increasingly going after donald trump. not so much against bernie sanders but as you know, ashleigh, the trick in this general election campaign, can hillary clinton start to move towards donald trump? well, at the same time, not alienating all the bernie sanders supporters out there who are very, very fired up and v y
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enthusiastic about the candidate. he's got the youth vote, very enthusiastically behind him. we're standing in front of lionville middle school. they're too young to vote but i did an informal poll of the kids behind me and ashleigh, two bernie sanders, two undecided. if they had a chance to vote, he would be doing well today. >> wow, the middle schoolers. the middle schoolers. that is enthusiasm, jim. i didn't even know if we could get them to say who the vice president is. jim acosta, thank you for that, my friend. from a safe distance, our cnn senior political analyst and senior advisor to four u.s. presidents, watches all of what transpires, david gergen. always fantastic to get your insight. first thing. we don't like to focus on polling on election day. we want the voters to decide, but you can't ignore how
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powerful donald trump is in these five states and how powerful hillary clinton is in these five states. >> absolutely. the polls. you can't ignore the polls when they all say the same thing and point in the same direction. if anything, donald trump and hillary clinton seem to be growing in strength in these five states, not the other way around. typically, bernie sanders closes in on her in the last 48 or 72 hours. >> and he has in the national polls. >> but at least five states, she's had a very healthy lead. as does donald trump. they both sweep. and it brings both of them to the very edge to the verge of the nomination. >> i feel like we said that last tuesday. we're at the very edge. >> you move halfway to a goal and then we're going to get there. >> groundhog day. >> maybe in indiana. if each wins sweeps tonight, as expected, then donald trump, if he can win indiana next week, will very, very likely get to
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the 1237 to win the nomination on the first ballot. if he does not win on first ballot, he's in trouble. it's all important for him to win these tonight and then indiana. >> so the big story that's developed right before this vote and there seems to always be a big story that develops 24 hours before the vote. >> with these primaries, you never can tell. >> this is what trump calls the grand collusion between cruz and kasich. what cruz and kasich say this is politics. other politicians say this has been going on for years. it is not outside of the norm. it's part of the rules but so many more questions. they haven't talked to each other about the so-called pack. that's what's been reported this morning. look, the logic behind an agreement in indiana is important. kasich has about 20% of the votes there. if he pulls back and many as a third go to cruz, the polls say cruz would then win.
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he only has to pick up a third. and you could see why it makes sense. but they rolled it out in a clumsy way, everybody said, come on. >> this is the response they get from donald trump. and sometimes, he's totally off the rails but i think he's spot on with this one. the cruz/kasich campaign is under great strain. almost dead. very dumb. i'm not sure it's almost dead or falling apart. it's announced. >> the art of the bad deal. >> i guess he could say that but the critical issue here is what's to stop a ted cruz from doing a bait and switch after he gets what he wants in indiana? >> you are sneaky. that's the product of a sneaky mind. >> but that could happen. >> it could happen. i wouldn't put it past him. and john kasich is trying to have it both ways. pull it back, but still vote for me. i think one of the reasons that
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trump has made so much of it is he wants to shine a light on what seems like an inept agreement. it could have been done cleanly. >> with all of your experience, so many epithets and just so many accusations flying about like the collusion and the rigging and the rest. isn't this just par for the course? this is the way contests are fought and lost or won? >> yeah, you know, bismarck once said you never want to watch sausage being made. and that goes for politics too. >> but you've seen it. >> we've all seen it. and now we brought it to the television set and screens and everybody says, you know, that's pretty rough stuff and that's sneaky. >> something you have not seen in your decades. >> grover cleveland. that was a fairly long time ago. >> i don't believe it. you don't look a day over 30. >> good to be with you. appreciate it. we'll have live coverage.
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live pictures of one very patriotic connecticut residence in west hartford. it's on the acella express route. we'll bring you live updates throughout the day as the voting continues. it might be one now but you know how it works out. all of the sudden, they're all lined up. in the meantime, today's vote could be a turning point in the democratic race for the white house. and here's what's at stake. 384 delegates across the five states i was just talking about. hillary clinton is pretty much looking for a clean sweep of all five of them as she sets her sights on that finish line.
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senator bernie sanders said this race is far from over. >> it's a narrow path. but we do have a path and the idea that we should not contest in california, a larger state, let the people of california determine what the agenda of the democratic party is and who the candidate for president should be is pretty crazy. we're in this to the end. >> in it to the end. with more is chris frates in bluebell, pennsylvania. senator sanders has someone else in the corner. tell me about the tweet that donald trump just sent out about the democratic race. >> this just came in a few minutes ago and he's been treated terribly but the democrats with both delegates and otherwise. he should show them and run as an independent. this is something we've heard from donald trump quite a lot as
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he's compared his plight to what he calls a rigged system. bernie sanders makes the case and winning and winning and yet can't catch hillary clinton. let's remember too. donald trump would benefit from an independent run of bernie sanders. it would split the democrats and certainly help him if hillary clinton became the nominee and that's kind of part of what you're hearing today as well. as the tone starts to shift and hillary clinton really hoping to do well in these northeastern states. in fact, here in pennsylvania, she's polling ahead of bernie sanders by double digits and she started to pivot a little bit away from bernie sanders and is taking on donald trump. so he's starting to feel that a little bit and hitting him for his suggestion that we temporarily ban muslims in the country and his suggestion we don't need to raise wages saying maybe he should get out of his penthouse in trump tower or the big resort in mara lago, florida. bernie sanders for his own race here as we heard saying he's not getting out of this anytime
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soon. and, you know, that's also not surprising. he's looking ahead. he's drawing huge rallies here. thousands and thousands of people. so he's hoping those people will come out and vote for him, help him cut that. if you want to kind of get a sense of how today is going to go, how these candidates think today is going to go, ashleigh, look at where they'll be tonight. she'll be right here in pennsylvania in a big election night event. bernie sanders already moving on, heading to west virginia but as we heard, he's going to stay in this race and it looks like he'll have the money and the support to keep going, ashleigh. >> in it to the end, as he said. chris frates and bluebell, pennsylvania. cnn legal commentator, ryan lizza and good to have both of you. good to start with you. if this is a clean sweep for hillary clinton, what does that mean for that statement that we just heard from bernie sanders i'm in it until tenhe end.
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scorched earth or platform bound? >> it's like that scene in "animal house" where pluto said it's not over until he said it's over. bernie sanders. it doesn't matter if he gets killed in all five states tonight. campaigns end when they run out of money, right? and bernie sanders just raised $40 something million in the last month that he reported. and so he's going to stay in it and he's got a very rough patch here, right, with the getting killed in new york and probably going to be doing poorly tonight but he's got some states coming up that are a little bit more demographically oriented towards his voters. i think his goal is to get as many delegates as he can by the end of this race and early june and use whatever influence he's built up with those delegates and sort of base of support, especially among millennials and the future of the democratic party and go into the convention in july and use whatever pressure he can to either influence the party platform, hillary clinton's running mates,
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and her agenda thereafter. so i do think the campaign is switching a little bit more from an, "i can win" to, all right, i need to extract some concessions but he's got money and going to stay in the race. >> regarding the concessions or conditions, no matter what word you use, bob, i want you to weigh in on this. hillary clinton said a couple of things last night on msnbc town hall. she said in '08 at this time with then senator obama, right now, i'm doing better than obama against me and i'm doing better and then said the conditions and whether there were conditions like this that were laid out in '08. have a listen. >> i did not put down conditions. i didn't say, you know what? if senator obama does x, y, and z, maybe i'll support him. i said, i am supporting senator obama because no matter what our
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differences might be, they pale in comparison to the differences between us and the republicans. i spent an enormous amount of time convincing my supporters to support him. and i'm happy to say the vast majority did. that is what i think one does. >> this looks like the effort to unify the party already even though we have one candidate saying i'm going all the way to the summer. >> yeah. and ashleigh, i think it's interesting where bernie sanders said recently that he just can't snap his fingers and have the sanders supporters back hillary, but hillary clinton, you have to give me something to bring all of my young voters to your side. and i do think this is a bit of a different year than obama versus clinton and hillary clinton is right. that was a very, very close race. this race is basically over. sanders said he has a narrow path. that path is very, very, very narrow and about to disappear.
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but he does, i totally agree with ryan that it's all about leverage and i think he's going to be pushing for minimum wage and campaign finance reform, provisions in the platform. and i think hillary clinton, she knows this. she knows that bill clinton negotiabilitied de negotiated deals and that's the beginning. taking a hard line to back me and i think knows this is going to have to be give and take and that's going to be her challenge in the weeks and months ago is to unify the party. it's a big challenge. i think it's going to be a lot easier for the democrats to do it though than the republicans. >> go ahead, ryan. >> just one thing, ashleigh. it's not quite right that there were no negotiations. remember, she got the obama campaign eventually to pay down her campaign debt. >> right. >> and so there was a sort of fund raising agreement there. they're politicians. they don't give your support and give everything to another candidate without getting something in return.
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but she's absolutely right that she and bill clinton, once the race was over, did everything they could for obama and try to unite the party. that's going to be a big test for bernie sanders to see if he gets there. >> and it will be interesting to see when that might or might not happen. thank you. good to see you both. appreciate it. >> thanks, ash. >> up in the next hour, wolf blitzer will interview jane sanders. the wife of bernie sanders. if you think it's tough on the candidate, guess what? it's real tough on their families too. the primaries are absolutely grueling. as is the general election, but man, oh, man. should have a lot to say with wolf. also coming up next, the bizarre mystery surrounding a family's mass murder in ohio. it's just getting more strange. as the search for the killer or the killers intensifies. we're going to hear from a father about his daughter who was one of those victims and her three children, also slained.
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of your retirement today! . we've got more details coming up today about the grizzly murders of eight members of an ohio family as the search for whoever murdered them execution style now enters its fifth day. anytime now, the attorney general is expected to release some brand new details about these murders. we do know the autopsies on all eight members have been completed. the big part of the story, the father of one of those who was killed is talking.
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his struggle to understand what happened mixed with his anger and frustration at investigators of all things. chris graves with the "enquirer" newspaper and spoke with the father and chris joins me live. thank you so much for talking to me after your interview. i'm just fascinated by the dynamic between this grieving father who lost his daughter and his three grandchildren. you would think he would be working hand in hand with the police to find these murderers but instead, there's a strange dynamic that's developed between them. what's happening? >> reporter: yeah. i do believe they are -- hi, ashleigh, by the way. i think they feel a little put out with law enforcement. they're up there a lot. you know, they're sort of confined up on the family property, and they don't really understand what's going on. they say they don't know who would do this to their family
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and/or why. so i think they feel a little out of the loop. as i reported this morning, several members of their family and friends were taken into to be talked to by the pike county sheriffs about 3:00 in the morning. they were wrestled out of bed to be reint-interviewed. i think they're just as perplexed as anybody or at least mr. manly does. >> i think when he spoke with you, he was also having his other daughter, bobbi jo traumatized by this horrific loss of her family members. it's my understanding from your work she discovered her sister. she was one of the first people on the scene. and yet, it seems the police were questioning her account of what time. they're drilling down on the time of her discovery. can you help me understand what the details were of the
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discovery? how she happened upon this scene? what time it was and whether it might be discrepancies? >> reporter: sure. so she said she's very, bobbi jo manly is the younger daughter of leonard and closer to dana. she said to me she went there as she always does to feed the chickens and dogs up at the multiple properties. at about 7:00 in the morning on friday morning. and she discovered sort of this grizzly scene, called for help and called her father, who lives just down, maybe about a half a mile away. a quarter to a half a mile away down on the same road. i can only speculate what the time issue is. i would guess that the police are trying to sort of narrow who saw what when and how and who was the first discovery and
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truthfully, i don't know whether or not law enforcers have a different time. if there's some other time stamp on something. i don't know that. but i do know she shared that detail with me yesterday up at the family's home. >> the story gets more mystifying as more details come to light. i think especially the details of the large grow operations that were discovered at three or four seasons. i have to leave it there but i hope to check in with you to see if strange details to help solve this unsettling story. thank you for your time today. >> by far the biggest prize in today's primaries is the state of pennsylvania. the gop delegates are bound to a candidate.
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happy super tuesday again. when it comes to choosing a presidential nominee, believe it or not, the real power lies with those delegates and no state voting today has more delegates with more power than pennsylvania. dozens of those delegates are being elected right now and they
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have free reign to vote any way they choose at the gop convention this summer. who are these people? how do we know what they think? cnn's randi kaye as the same questions so she went out to meet some of the not so familiar names on the ballots. >> i'm running for delegate in the second congressional district. >> reporter: if elected as an unpledged delegate to the republican national convention in july, she says she will support ted cruz. despite who the majority of gop primary voters want but other delegates won't say who they'll support. >> i'm hoping and uncommitted and will be until i cast my first vote. >> i'm uncommitted. what's going on? >> that is what makes pennsylvania unique. of the 71 delegates, 54 of them will remain unpledged. more than any other state. meaning they can vote for whatever candidate they want at the convention. just like calvin tucker and
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chris vogler. >> i'm not totally sure. it might not be until the convention. >> i'll make a discussion based on the candidates to determine their interests in urban policy. the campaigns are anxious to shore up support. calvin said he received at least 25 calls and e-mails from the campaigns. just last week, he met with ted cruz surrogate carly fiorina and invited to attend a delegate dinner with cruz himself. >> what does it feel like to be courted by the campaigns? >> i mean, it feels good. i haven't been courted in 40 years since i first met my wife. >> chris is being wooed too. he met cruz last week. >> some small talking and question and answer session for 45 minutes. >> here's where things get tricky. in choosing delegates, voters in pennsylvania may have to guess which presidential candidate, a potential delegate will support. this is a sample primary ballot
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for the voters to use here in pennsylvania and here on the republican side are some of the delegates that we interviewed and you can see all that's there is their name. you don't know anything about their allegiances and which presidential candidate they're supporting but here on the democratic candidate side, they do show that. for example, this delegate is committed to hillary clinton. over here, committed to bernie sanders. but back on the republican side, what could happen is a voter could conceivably end up voting in a delegate who supports a different presidential candidate than that voter. that means the candidate who wins the popular vote in this state may or may not win the most delegates. it all depends on how these unpledged delegates eventually decide to vote at the convention. >> even though it looks like donald trump will win the popular vote here, what would you like to see happen? >> i would like to see cruz carry a lot of delegates. >> hello. >> despite the many questions from voters, there are no immediate plans to change the
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resumes rules or the ballot. >> you switch it in march or april? >> we're not going to change it a week out from the election. >> the philadelphia republican primary said it's doing all it can to make sure they're informed and educated about the delegates come primary day. randi kaye, cnn, philadelphia. >> fascinating stuff. how will the unconventional rules play at the convention? who they end up supporting makes all the difference in this race. find out what the math is saying about the unbounds and what they have said to friends and other politicians. that could also make the difference next. you do all this research on
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millions of voters in five states casting their ballots as we speak. and one of the most important and very, very complicated primaries is happening in pennsylvania right now. as we saw before, the gop voters there not only are deciding which candidate to win 17 of those pledged delegates, but they'll also pick 54 unbound ones. those are the delegates that
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represent them at the party's convention. the politics executive editor is mark preston. here's what's so fascinating about the breakdown. 17, i think we can fairly say trump is polling so incredibly well in pennsylvania and probably pick those ones up. fair? >> fair. >> the next part is weird. you have all of these districts, 18 different districts with 3 delegates a piece and they all have pledged to themselves and running like candidates. and cnn did a bit of the math about how they operate. and it's kind of fascinating. let me just read for you and it's tricky so follow along. and what cnn found out when they interviewed these people. more than 125 of them who spoke with cnn, 20% of them said they will back trump. while another 33% said they're going to back their congressional district's winner. that's popular winner. whoever gets the popular vote there and that's good news for
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trump because he's poised to win the popular vote by a heavy margin and 60% said they would support ted cruz and 10% said don't ask me. i won't talk until the convention but none of the candidates told cnn that they plan to support kasich. by that math, that looks like donald trump's got about 53% support out on those congressional districts which is huge. >> which would be north of the 40, of the 54 delegates on the table. you know what's interesting about this whole process is that really being known to the american public because this has been very smoke-filled room about how you pick a presidential candidate and we haven't been in this situation before. but there's so much talk about reforming the irs and the confusion of doing your taxes. trying to pick a president is even more confusing. but to your point in our reporting, nearly 33%, these are folks that are running to be a delegate to the convention. if their district, their congressional district decides to go for donald trump and they were not to support donald trump at the convention, can you imagine them coming back home?
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>> they'd be run out of town. >> right out of the neighborhood. >> is that why they put their hands up and said, i state your name, promise to do what you want as opposed to who i like. >> i would suspect that's the case. >> it's incredible. there's cherry picking in these states. and as i see the map, it looks like cruz is really doing his best in maryland. he might be able to pick a couple there. >> but by and large, i think the cruz campaign has just given up here on the mid-atlantic. up to the east coast. that's why we saw this deal sunday night. the deal didn't quite develop as they had hoped probably yesterday but why cruz is going all in in indiana. they basically ceded john kasich to donald trump. we knew this area was good because of his politics match up with the new york politics. >> that's rhode island. that's the open primary and
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kasich has a shot there and pick anything off and maybe pick it off there. i can't wait for tonight. i've been saying that every tuesday. this is great tv. thank you, mark preston. coming up, a san fran cisco policeman accused of sending what is the most racist and homophobic tests you might ever see on tv. not the first time the department has been in trouble for this either. we'll explain that next. ♪
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million. that's not even talking about the future possibilities of his assets. the licensing of his name and likeness going forward. the remarkable rights to his music catalog. the vault of what is said to be hundreds and hundreds of songs yet to be released. michael jackson alone since '09 making a billion dollars off of those very kinds of assets. so this is just an incredible discovery that prince, according to his sister, telling cnn, did not have a will. that means that minnesota state law will prevail over how to deal with probate issues in this case. several half siblings and some deceased and one full sibling. no children. and twice divorced. this will be a remarkable story as this goes forward. but just a complete surprise for a musician who was so meticulous about his business arrangements throughout his entire decades long career. i want to move on now to this other story.
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the san francisco police department at the center of yet another racially charged controversy. this one involving an officer who allegedly sent dozens of racist and homophobic text messages about the same thing that he was sworn to serve and protect. cnn's dan simon has the story and we want to warn you it takes some language that viewers may find offensive. >> san francisco's police department embroiled in controversy over highly disturbing racist text messages. at the center of the scandal is officer jason li. he resigned a few weeks ago but wore the uniform for six years and using disparaging language not only towards black people but indians as well. provided the text to cnn at the request of reporters. it came to light during a separate investigation of the
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officer. they said it's not reflective of who he is and no evidence he carried out sentiments as an officer. but the scandal is far from one and his racist texts. the sfpd went through the same thing a year ago when more than a dozen officers were found to have sent highly offensive racist texts. in both cases, the discoveries were accidental. the officer for being investigated for various crimes when officers basically stumbled upon the messages while looking for phone records. then you have the controversial shooting last december of 26-year-old mario woods a knife wielding suspect infamously captured on cell phone video shot more than 20 times. critics say it was an unnecessary use of force. the department is still investigating. but in light of the community backlash, the department said it wants to change how officers can have suspects with knives and chief is under enormous pressure to show that these are isolated
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issues and there's not some deep cultural problem within the department. he said he has no tolerance for this behavior. at stake is not just the chief and his department but perhaps the image of the city itself. >> joined now by dan simon and cnn justice reporter scott glover. both work to put the story together. gentlemen, thank you so much for doing this. as you mentioned, in your story it's just the latest embarrassment for the san francisco pd. but explain why it's a bigger issue than just this one officer's text messages. >> well, ashley, first of all, thank you for having us on. for me and scott is that this happened in san francisco. you're talking about the most liberal, progressive city on the planet. it's welcoming of everybody and the fact you had three separate incidents. the first episode. then you had mario woods who was shot by all of these officers and then a second texting episode. and then you look at it through
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the prism of ferguson and baltimore and that's going to make this, of course, a bigger story. >> so the san francisco police chief has been under a lot of stress and how is he responding at this point? >> what the chief is saying is that he's not going to tolerate this kind of behavior. greg sir has spent his entire career at the san francisco police department and he says he wants to put some steps in place where there's sensitivity training and procedural things of that nature. and we'll see what happens. >> when i say stress, it's stress and pressure. people not happy with his actions. scott, you're not new at this. you've been at this rodeo for a wile and been at lapd for a long time and now looking into the san francisco police department, can you sort of put into context just how significant this story is in the context of overall policing? >> you know, i think that remains to be seen.
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one question you're going to have is, is this an isolated incident or a handful of officers involved or something indicative of a broader cultural problem? and you know, that remains under investigation. in san francisco, there have been back-to-back incidents with these racist text messages a year apart. and in both cases, they were discover discovered accidentally. incidental to criminal nvr investigations going on in the public defender and district attorney in the story we did today pointed that out. well, if we look under another rock, what are we going to find? and so i think that's a question that remains to be answered. >> well, it's great work and i thank the both of you for doing this and looking at this and i hope we can continue to follow it too. dan simon, scott glover. thanks, guys. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> good to have both of them on. thank you everyone, for watching "legal view" and you want to
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