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king starts now. is this the ticket? >> you deserve to know exactly where a candidate stands. >> ted cruz bets it all on indiana. donald trump calls it desperate and looks for a knockout. >> if we win in indiana, it's over. >> reporter: and about that new tone. >> my wife said be more presidential. i said i don't want to be presidential. i wanna win. i gotta win. >> bernie sanders cuts his staff and shifts focus. >> our job, whether we win or whether we do not win is to transform not only our country but the democratic party. >> reporter: "inside politics,"
the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters, now. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. two days now until the indiana primary could be the last gasp for ted cruz and stop trump movement so far proved itself about as effective as a squirt gun at a wildfire. after eight years of barack obama, who will be center stage and comedian in-in chief at next year's white house correspondent's dinner. >> ted had a tough week. he went to indiana. hoosier country. stood on a basketball court. called the hoop a basketball ring. what else is in his lexicon? baseball sticks? football hats?
but sure i'm the foreign one. >> question two, if the billionaire wins in indiana tuesday will the republican establishment and grassroots conservative forces stop fighting trump? will they wave the right flag of surrender and rally behind a front-runner who seems ambivalent about the idea of party unity >> would i win, can i win without it, i think so. i think so because they're going to vote for me. jeb bush didn't support you. big deal, like i care. >> like he cares and question three how nasty will it get? trump says hillary clinton succeeds only because of the woman card and she hardly seems shy about swinging back. >> you know, hillary, crooked hillary, right? >> i have a lot of experience dealing with men who sometimes get off the reservation in the way they behave and how they speak.
>> more on that in a moment. with us an all-cnn reporting team. maeve reston, manu raju. the indiana primary tuesday is the real big deal as ted cruz says the biggest most important day of were the republican race so far. the numbers don't lie. donald trump when you add in the unbound delegates who prenlged their support to trump, trdonal trump could survive this. if he comes in second he survives if he picks up some delegat delegates, still keeping 1237 in reach. can ted cruz survive? what if ted cruz wins? it's a risk. he went all in this past week, more than had 00 delegates
behind mr. trump. cruz says he's the only true conservative still standing. most smart republicans to you if indiana is trump red tuesday night especially after the five-state sweep by trump in the northeast last week the psychology of the republican race will change more dramatically than the math. ted cruz gets it. >> we are at the edge of a cliff staring downward and this is the common sense and good judgment of had the hoosier state that is the one thing that stands between us and plunging over the cliff. >> plunging over the cliff. sometimes politicians ignore the expectations. sometimes they try to change expectations. seems pretty clear there that ted cruz gets it. if he is second in tiindiana ev if it's close a lot of people will say forget about it. >> people are starting to talk about indiana is the make or
break moment for trump and ted cruz. there is already a feeling of resignation among washington republicans, they look at indiana and say this doesn't look the same way that wwiscons. having been in indiana this week it doesn't feel that way on the ground. if cruz is able to pull it out i think it will be close. >> if you average the polls a narrow trump lead but looks competitive. if you're ted cruz you try to play your best card at the end. brand new ads trying to link donald trump to somebody republicans don't like,
hillary clinton. >> donald trump and hillary clinton are two sides of the same coin. both support the obamacare individual mandate. both support taxpayer funding for planned parenthood and letting transgender men go in little girls' bathrooms. trump and hillary, do we really
want two big government liberals on the ballot in november? >> if ted cruz losing indiana tuesday night is it not going to regret the months of being
donald trump's friend? >> we were talking how that was a brilliant drafting strategy, but i actually am going to give california voters the benefit of the doubt. five weeks is a long time between indiana and when we get to the end of this process on june 7th. i think it's true that this is a big moment for the anti-trump forces in the sense a lot of doanors are watching and have a lot to do with whether money is flowing. there could be some surprises in there. >> for cruz it's been very successful so far in winning states when he set expectations high. he did that in iowa and texas
and wisconsin. in all the states he won and reset the narrative. he's doing that here and he may not win. how does he rebound from an indiana loss, even if there are big states left like california and clearly all about the convention right now, denying the 1237. the narrative is critical and if he loses it will hurt his narrative and momentum going forward. >> donald trump gets it. he gets if he wins indiana the math will depend heavily onicalical, the biggest basket of delegates. donald trump is starting to talk about maybe i need to unify the party, wants to get to 1237 but mocks jeb bush out at the california republican convention and idea of party unity. at this moment he wants a conservative state to back him, listen to him. >> who cares, we've got to straighten out the country. i mean, give me a break.
>> what is that? >> this week i think is the most consequential week since iowa, and in terms of what's happening on both sides of the border, you can feel this contest shifting. if it happens after indiana or keeps going further, the nebraska primary a week from tuesday, a little plug in. >> all politics is local. >> i think you can feel republicans here when you talk to them on capitol hill and other places they are resigned to the fact that donald trump is almost sure to be their nominee. so donald more interestingly is what type of a nominee he will be by then. he keeps dropping out signals here and i think that right there, who cares if you need a conservative. >> what everyone feerld, all of the republicans who weren't sure of his credentials and shifts on abortion and for a lot of people they may feel like the nightmare is. >> i'm resigned donald trump
will be the nominee. republicans shouldn't vote for him, we should get the cancer out of the party. >> this is why he's a tricky person for democrats to run against. that's one of the cautionary tales, one of the lessons they've taken away from watching republican primary. if you treed donald trump like a joke you're underestimating the well of support. lot of people who supported snd spd are taking a look at donald trump. >> that's one reason why you see establishment figures say maybe donald trump won't be so bad as a nominee because he can bring new voters into the party. >> you did some great reporting on this, this past week and my question is he's had a trickle of establishment support. let's deal with it, get on board and if he wins indiana i expect that trickle may turn into a flood.
however you have this final, you used the word joke. i said the stop trump movement has been about effective bringing a squirt gun to a big fire. all the people with big names and big reputations and a lot of them have access to big money. the cruz campaign gets excited this past week. mike pence someone who thought about running in 2016, mike pence will go on the radio and endorse ted cruz sort of. if you're going to stop donald trump and going to get a big endorsement from the cruz campaign is this exactly how to say it? >> i particularly want to commend donald trump who i think has given voice to the frustration of millions of working americans with a lack of progress in washington, d.c., and i'm also particularly grateful that donald trump has taken a strong stand for hoosier jobs when we saw jobs in the carrier company abruptly
announce indiana, not to leave for another state but for mexico. i'm grateful. >> he went on in the next sentence he'll vote for ted cruz. donald trump is just awesome but fill' vote for the other guy. >> ted cruz is like the worst plan b possible. people are right, they think donald trump has the best shot of complicating the democrats' path to win back the white house or holding the white house. ted cruz the matchup against hillary clinton is not nearly as mysterious or up in the air but donald trump/hillary clinton matchup will be competitive and we don't know the ending of that, we don't know the route of battleground states. i thought that endorsement said it all there. people are ready to move on. >> you mentioned and made clear they don't think ted cruz is a great plan b.
add his voice to the debate this past week something he has said before. at the moment is john boehner former republican speaker of the white house grassroots groups don't like boehner. you probably get the impression he doesn't like ted cruz >> up clear how he feels about ted cruz. >> i asked some congressman about that and charlie from pennsylvania said i wouldn't have called him miserable. i think donald trump has a point here that we all pay so much
attention to these potential general election matchups but we really haven't seen what donald trump will do yet to hillary clinton should she be the nominee and i think that there's a long way to go seeing who would be the stronger nominee up against her. >> everybody sit tight. up next donald trump's on again mostly off again work at being presidential. first politicians say the darned things. more from last night, president obama and his farewell white house correspond epts dinner. >> is this dinner too tacky for the donald? what could he possibly be doing instead? is he at home eating a trump steak, tweeting out insults to angela merkel? hillary trying to appeal to young voters is a little bit
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welcome back. the let trump be trump camp has a new member, conalleged j. trump. >> my wife said be more presidential. i said i don't want to be presidential. i wanna win. you know what presidential is, they're calling you names and you're standing here like this, i'm the president, i should not fight back. in the meantime you get your [ bleep ] kicked, okay?
>> still mr. trump gave a more measured approach, he used a teleprompter to deliver a major foreign policy address. one dominant theme america first. >> on trade, on immigration, on foreign policy, the jobs, incomes, and security of the american worker will always be my first priority. >> more than anything else, if you listened or watched the speech proved beyond any doubt if trump emerges at the republican nominee you can throw your trusty gop policy guidebook in the trash. >> we will no longer sell the false song of globalism to this country. >> the republican party is your international free trade integrate economies pro globalism, at least today's republican party. what do we get with trump's republican party? >> i think that's what we're
watching to see and to sarah's point earlier the idea there are a lot of people out there in the country drawn to spd snd' message for example on trade and not being the world's policeman. it will be fascinating to watch whether or not donald trump with the issues can expand the circle of the republican party and maybe that's not being reflected in the polls yet, why the general election matchups don't meet at this point. >> some people said he's reading been the lines and not what he actually thinks when he speaks without a teleprompter. some folks in the republican foreign policy establishment were open to it. i talked to bob corker who said this was outstanding speech. he said donald trump scares foreign leaders and that could be a good thing, a welcome change from the last eight
years, so in some ways he's winning some folks over in the foreign policy world because of his comment. >> we have to be unpredictable he says. which trump you get on any given day or hour, whether you agree or disafree with what he said he was calm and measured, read through the teleprompter. tried to explain his views on foreign policy. he did not mention building a war or asking mexico to pay for it. republicans worry about that language. when he gets back on the campaign trail he did it in indiana and california. >> los angeles homicides are up 10.2%, rapes up 6%, aggravated assault is up 27.5%. what the hell is happening in this area? >> build that wall! build that wall! build that wall!
build that wall! >> we are going to build that wall, folks. we're going to build that wall. >> a lot of people may not like it but that line works with his voters and his base and it's probably going to be a bumper sticker in the fall campaign. >> it does with primary voters. the question once this expands to the main stage here, where there are so many more millions of voters will it work in that area. i think we'll see him speaking to different groups of people. usually in primaries we see the growth and evolution of a candidate and once they reached the general they're sort of fully formed. not true. we'll see the evolution and growth of donald trump. we don't know the type of candidate he'll be in the coming months. it's fascinating. he knows where his crowd is. he loves the roar of the crowd there. >> it's why it's so fascinating that the primary process carried on through all of the states because you have seen him collide as he did in california
over the last couple of days with a lot of protesters who feel so vehemently what jeff is talking about. it will be fascinating to see over the next five weeks in california donald trump really having to own the policies and see what that means in a state that's very hostile to them. >> i think for republicans you were talking about the two different donald trumps, that makes some republicans feel more comfortable about donald trump, the fact that he can go there and deliver the red meat when he's out on the trump and can adjust, he can pull back and deliver the foreign policy speech, they saw the first inklings on the debate stage when donald trump was more reserved. they said maybe this is a guy who can moderate himself. they're hoping you'll see bigger doses of that in the general election. it's hard to ask people to change entirely. eight like asking my dad to give up cigarettes and steak. it's not going to happen. >> the emphasis changes, he
can't abandon the wall, that's a central piece of his platform. does he not emphasize it as much in colorado, and others. >> if he doesn't democrats will be happy to remind people of his build the wall. >> and ted cruz is too far apart from donald trump on the issues anyway. that's the choice that the republicans have. >> to your point if he moderates in some ways we still don't know if he is the nominee do they shadow him around the country, conservatives say he's changing his mind. that's another layer we'll get to. to the democrats next a delicate moment for bernie sanders writh regard to hillary clinton's diplomatic skills. who should donald trump pick
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bernie sanders whether you like him or not is at an awkward moment. he gets the math and wants to be a loyal democrat but doesn't want to let his supporters down or leave any delegates on the table. so it's interesting to watch the blunt establishment be damned insurgent to try a little more of a delegate balancing act. >> we are in this campaign to win, but if we do not win, we intend to win every delegate that we can, so that when we go to philadelphia in july we're going to have the votes to put together the strongest progressive agenda that any political party has ever seen.
>> hillary clinton has led this movie before as the losing candidate. the rows were reversed in 2008. as secretary clinton stelz jake tapper she's confident the sequel will have a happy ending. >> we're going to talk and work together. the connection between my supporters and myself and senator sanders and his supporters are very strong. we really are going to be upified and have a tremendous progressive agenda to run on in the fall. >> she wants that connection to be strong, jeff. is it at the moment if you still look senator sanders seems to be moving in the way a responsible democrat would, holding out hope but acknowledging the math and trying to think more. the bathroom. her saying she has a strong connection doesn't create one. >> doesn't at all. bernie sanders moved a long way this is week. he is not a democratic party guy
necessarily but he is an institutionalist. he's been in congress so lodge. he knows he is not here to were blow things up. you talk to southbound snd supporters, the feeling of animosity of hillary clinton is stronger than eight years ago from clinton to obama. on friday i read every story i wrote from mid-may to mid-july of 2000 and the clinton campaign is saying how quietly she went into the night. they didn't at all. hotel in washington clinton supporters were screaming at david plouffe. there is still another sort of chapter to play out here. the spd snd supporters he can influence them some but this has to be a process. i think she has to excite them. this is not all on bernie
sanders. >> when you talk to them at the rallies they are so cool if not just cold to hillary clinton. it's not even so much anger but you wonder if it's one of the wild cards as we look ahead to the general election. will she be able to replicate the obama coalition, there isn't that fire for her among the people shoring him. >> a lot of the supporters are not democrats. they're independents, young people who may not come to the polls in november. will they be attracted to what he was saying? >> the question is indiana matters in the sense the math is overwhelming for hillary clinton but she won pennsylvania to end april in 2008 and won indiana the narrowest contest, 50 point to 49 point. to your point jeff supporters saying there's still a tiny chance and they came together
and hillary clinton that's why she was secretary of state. they didn't come together in the first week of may. then how does she do this? she's not known as acknowledging you're ate great senator, what can i do for you. >> that's he the difficult part. it's hard to see even if they do come around, how do you win people who aren't interested. i don't know what hillary clinton can to to win them over. the platform is interesting. even if bernie sanders dropped out today you need enough in the platform to make feel excited and it's a hard pivot into from that into the general election. >> 2008 california was a super tuesday state. spd snd will win more state. the clinton campaign knows that,
why they're trying to keep a sense alive. >> a lot of sand bumper stickers in california, shocking me. >> listen to a little more what she tells jake. she lived this, remembers what this is like but at the very end she seems to be enjoying being on the other side this time. >> senator sappeders has been a passionate advocate for positions he cares deeply about. i think that's been helpful to the kmic primary process. he's brought millions of people into it the process which i think is also very the good for the democratic party but there comes a time when you have to look at the reality. >> that was perfect outreach to the sanders campaign where it's good for the democrat party. she has the poke at the end. >> he's been getting under her skin. she's happy she won five of the last six contests.
we will see if they can go back and win. oregon is a sanders state, california jump ball. the buyers remorse thing worries them. >> questions about unity has to do with sntd snd herself. i talked to his lone senate democratic supporter said if bernie sanders is still trailing in june he should drop out, unite the party, work to be a peacehaa peacemaker headed into november. >> the matching tie the periwinkle the event she's planning in her head. >> if she lets bernie sanders come out of this with his own movement not ohm does she help herself in the fall but let bernie sanders keep his place. ahead we know a
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donald trump says just about every event now republicans should make him a nominee. he can change this map of 2012. president owe pa ma won with 332 electoral votes. the republicans only 206. takes 270 to get elected. donald trump says i can win pennsylvania and michigan encan win ohio. democrats say come monday we'll contest you. if he took all three that would get him to 260. virginia would do it, that makes 273 to 265. there are places out here new mexico, nevada, used to be swing states. the democrats say no more because of donald trump's immigration rhetoric. can trump do this?
this fight is already under way. they'll fight about immigration and personal character and they'll fight about what trump calls the woman card. >> i think the only card she has is the woman's card, nothing else going. if hillary clinton were a man i don't think she'd get 5% of the vote. the only thing she's got going is the woman's card and the beautiful thing is, women don't like her. >> the other day mr. trump accused me of playing the "woman card." [ booing ] well if fighting for women's health care and paid family leave and equal pay is playing the woman's card them deal me in. >> if you look at close presidential elections in recent history they tend to be decided in the suburbs.
suburban women have a lot of play. to trump's point women don't like clinton, what about about his? "usa today" poll donald trump mopping female voters 66% unfavorable. i don't think you can win a presidential election if you have a 66% unfavorable. >> he has to fix that. their campaign has made no effort to try to do that. we're starting to see clmp clmp saying the primary is continuing, i have to keel with donald trump and defining him. we're seeing trump try to do that with clinton but not see him begin to deal with the al albatross how women perceive him. that takes coordinated messaging and more xlin than we've seep on the stump. he said hillary clinton is winning because's she's a woman. asked about it repeats it and doubles down. >> in some ways he's right
because donald trump is not universally loved by women voters, about 50/30 50 in most polls, better than donald trump. they have to figure out a new line of attack, push important policies to deal with swing districts >> hillary clinton loves being in the defensive crouch and talking about her accomplishments. it will be fascinating to see whether donald trump has another card to play here. to sarah's point i haven't seen him do anything to reach out and change the numbers. >> the question everybody raises how can you see he build himself up? he's left no doubt he's trying to tear her down. foreign policy he thought it was
reckless, mentions benghazi and libya. he tweeted again on friday "crooked hill ray perhaps the most dishonest person to have ever run for the presidency is one of the all-time great enablers" a criticism she somehow stood by while her husband bill was doing things that the american people don't support or like. hillary clinton when asked by jake tapper not only is she firds back at donald trump but seems a little paging dr. freud. >> i have a lot of experience dealing with men enwho sometimes get off the reservation in the way they whaf and how they speak. i'm not going to deal with their temper tantrums or bullying or efforts to provoke me. i laid it all out there and he can't or won't, i can't tell which. he can continue on his insult
fest but that's the choice he's making. >> we could sfend a long time with that. the floor is yours. >> in 2 u 240e8 she said i found my voice. she knows exactly what to say in this. that's how she keeps suburban women and orts in mind. you may not have within happy with my choice in the 90s to stay with him. she is i think very clear on this that the challenge for trump is if you talk to republicans if you would woeonl say stick to the substance if you want a third obama term, other things. if he can stay disciplined he can get some of the voters back. that answer was fascinating. she knows what to say. >> when he first started a couple of months ago when they had this back and forth about hillary clinton being an enabler, i talked to republican voters at the time, men and
women who said i don't think this is the approach. leave bill clinton's indiscretions about this. why are we blang hillary clinton about this? this was her husband in the '90s. let's move on and talk about benghazi. clearly he's not listening to that. >> republicans are operating from a deficit among single women and he has a lot of work to could, tricky ground for him to be ready toing. >> we showed how republican establishments are embracing trump. it is when they are scared when he does not read from the script. >> donald trump talks about bill clinton. >> look, i know the republicans have been really mean to her and it's been fairly effective but you ought to see and you will get a chance to see that this is
what they do. they decide who they don't want to run against and then they dump on them like crazy. >> he's trying to frame the fall deba debate. >> he is. if donald trump said nothing else more than could you want hillary clinton to be the next president that is all he should say. we know he'll say so, so, so much more than that. clinton campaign expected in chap pa qua this week a couple days, how to take on and deal with donald trump. we have all this tape to review of the campaign so far and it's going to be fascinating. >> and years of footage from before that time. >> remember indiana next though as they start to think ahead a little bit. up next our reporters share from the net book, why the trump campaign thinks not all gop convention del combats for faithful. who should donald trump pick as his running mate?
let's head around the "inside politics" table and ask our reporters to get you out ahead of the political news around the corner. maeve? >> everyone's focused on indiana but we are looking ahead to my home state of california and once again the question is, is the fact that ted cruz has been organizing there a year ahead of time really going to put trump at a disadvantage. they've got to go into all of the blue districts, winner take all by congressional district and we're talking about finding republican delegates in max east bay waters' district in order to send a loyal slate to the convention. that will be fascinating to watch. can donald trump get his del dpat became together in california. >> in clinton's case they're about turning corner to the general election, about to start raising money for the general, not quite yet.
they want to ramp a few more primary dollars. she'll be campaigning and raising money later this week in california, in texas. some donors are clamoring to start to raising money for the general but the clinton campaigns wants to raise a few more primary dollars. in 2008 she raised primary and general money at the beginning. this year they only raised primary dollars so it forced sunday raisers to look farther down to find new donors. they're about to turn the corner but not quite yet. >> a little more cash to spend before the convention. >> the other big primary tuesday is the senate republican primary between margaret stuzman, member of the conservative house freedom caucus, voted against john boehner. they unleashed a barrage of
attacks negative stories, research stores that have hit marlon stutzman, they are confident stutzman will lose and young will be the nominee. it's less about electability and much more about personality. >> mitch mcconnell continuing to try to crush the tea party. >> we've been follow the fight for del dpats. not all delegates are created equally. the trump campaign believes lots of ways to get to 1237 for cleveland. they are focused on the bound kel gats. we made a big deal about pennsylvania that is how the rnc tracks who the nominee is. the trump campaign wants 1237 bound delegates as soon as possible. they want to exert as much control as possible. >> indiana and california, new
jersey, west virgini, we have to count still. let me close with an observation or two from a quick visit to mexico city this past week. i was there thursday night and had conversations with a mix of young professionals and leader answer diplomats. more striking how closely they're following our election. to a person those i spoke with were horrified at donald trump's tone on immigration and every conversation included a question whether trump is a viable candidate to win the presidency. it isn't just trump and his imfwrags views making her neighbors to the south more than a little nervous. trade between the united states and mexico more than tripled since the nafta agreement was aimplemented in the bill clinton presidency and not only from trump but also hillary clinton and bernie sanders is raising serious worries about the future of a business relationship our neighbors believe it's not only good for both the u.s. and mexican economies but they say the major reason the pace of illegal immigration by mexicans has slowed considerably.
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game on. fresh off his big wins trump sets his sights on hillary clinton. >> if hillary clinton were a man, i don't think she'd get 5% of the vote. >> how will she respond to his new attacks in. >> i have a lot of experience dealing with men who sometimes get off the reservation in the way they behave. >> our ex-clive interview. plus ted cruz. >> it is the people of indiana who the country is depending on right now. >> fighting for attention with the vp pick. >> tough fights don't worry me a bit. >> with trump closing in on the magic number, will it be enough? >> it's amazing. looks like indiana will be really important, we're just about ready to put it away, folks. >> i'll ask him next. and a sunday first top advisers from every single campaign will go head