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so you're looking live at the white house. just imagine it with donald trump living there. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. it is a picture that strikes fear in the heart of democrats and some republicans as well. hillary clinton says a presume tiff republican nominee is a loose cannon. what would a president donald trump really do in his first 100 days and what would a trump administration mean for the rest of the world? plus, chilling new details about the last days of ddicted to per did he reach out for help that came too late. i'll begin with john king at the magic wall for us. how do the numbers look for a trump and clinton matchup? >> donald trump says the general election is under way. hillary clinton in the lead by a healthy margin. but opportunities in our polling for donald trump.
let's look at why hillary clinton can feel good as to general election starts. doesn't mean it will last. as of today, as we speak in early may, she's holding to the coalition. these were his numbers among men on election day 2012. hillary clinton doing a little better, among women, doing bet, among independents, doing b better, in the suburbs, doing better, also doing better than president obama on election day 2012 among nonwhite voters. if she can keep the coalition together, she can win. is it all bad news for trump? no. those demographic numbers show you he has work to do. there are also opportunities for mr. trump. he says in a state like michigan, i'll re-create on issues like trade. nationally, donald trump has a five point lead. modest, but a lead on the number one issue for voters, who can best handle the economy.
look at the midwest. donald trump knows his path to the presidency runs through the rust belt and look at that. 59 to 34 in the midwest on who is better able to handle the economy. big advantage for donald trump even though he trails clinton in some other key issues. how does that play out on electoral college map. this is obama and romney, a blowout for the democrats. this is where both campaigns start as they look ahead to 2016. donald trump says i can do that. i need to do that. no republican can win without ohio. if donald trump can change the three states, it is still not enough. still not enough. he thinks he can change florida as well. that's my second home. i'm not saying it is easy, a huge heavy lift, if he can maximize his advantage on the economy and change those three states up here and florida, he would be the next president of the united states. is that likely to happen? history says pennsylvania stays blue, we'll see if that works out. if that happened, look at that,
a tie in the electoral college. 269, 269. where else would donald trump look? he says he can win new york. mark me down as a skeptic. we're in may. let's see what the polling says in june, july and august. he says he can get wisconsin, minnesota, iowa, new hampshire. let's watch as it turns out. the flip side, where does secretary clinton look? number one, democrat dpraegraph thinks possible in arizona and georgia. there are some conservatives who say let's run a third party candidate. can't vote for clinton. we don't want to vote for trump. if you get that scenario, a conservative candidate who takes away some of trump support, latino turnout is up, it is possible. hillary clinton could change arizona. they'll look closely at that. it is possible, georgia in the south, conservatives stay home because of never trump. hillary clinton keeps african-american turnout up. this is what the campaigns are going through right now. for donald trump, your campaign begins and could end if you can't change the map in the rust
belt, industrial midwest. hillary clinton, number one priority, defend the obama coalition states, but look for opportunities. there is one here, there is one here, we're in may. let's see how this plays out spring and summer and likely to be a very competitive fall. don? >> thank you, appreciate that. donald trump sat down one on one with wolf blitzer today and talked about the voters who just might be the key to the election. >> let's talk about women voters out there. if you're president of the united states, you need to do very well with women voters in the general election. >> i will. >> hillary clinton, there is a new cnn poll that is out, shows 61% of female voertz nationwide, republicans, democrats, independents, they say they back hillary clinton, only 35% of women nationally say they back you. how are you going to change that? >> we'll get it changed. i think it will change rapidly because women want security. women want strong military. they want to know they're secure
in our nation. women want women's health issues taken care of. and hillary is not going to do it like me. >> let's talk about a general election, electoral college strategy, getting to 270 electoral college votes. john mccain couldn't do it as you well know. mitt romney couldn't do it. how are you going to do it. what states are you going to put in play that they couldn't look at -- >> that's a question i love. something that i think that i am better served than anybody. first of all, you see how well i did in new york. >> you have won basically almost every county in the recent elections except your own personal home county here in manhattan. >> which, by the way, is now under review and they think i won that too. it is called manhattan. i waon every single county in nw york, every county in pennsylvania, in maryland, in the five states and new york. which is a fret gopretty good r. i hear i won every county in indiana.
>> i'm from buffalo upstate, you'll do well up there. >> i did well. >> in the city, new york city -- >> i did very well. no, i did very well. like 50/50 deal. >> among republicans. >> among republicans, yeah. but -- >> not suggest ing you think america would be in play. >> for me? >> i know you suggested michigan and pennsylvania. >> i'll win upstate new york by massive numbers. i'll win out on long island by massive numbers. i'll win all of the sections that are horribly affected by nafta, a clinton deal. i will win sections of this city that nobody else could win. yes, i think new york is in play. by the way, if new york is in play, and if i won new york, then i win the election. you understand that. because of the size. i'll win michigan. michigan is not going to be even contested by any other republican. they wouldn't even go there. i'll win michigan because of what has happened. they sucked all the jobs out of michigan too. i'm constantly talking about michigan with the cars and what
is happening. i think i'll win pennsylvania. i'm sure i'm going to win pennsylvania. i'll win florida. which you have to win. i think i'm going to do very well. but i'm going to -- i will put state -- i will put states in play that no other republican will even talk about or go to. >> do you think the general election campaign has already started, you versus hillary clinton, that for all practical purposes bernie sanders is out? >> i think what has happened, there has been a flip and i'm surprised by it. i thought i would be going longer and she would be going shorter. she can't put it away. that's look a football team, they can't get the ball over the line. i put it away. she can't put it away. so i thought i would be out there and she would be campaigning against me. i didn't realize. so, yeah, i'll be campaigning against her while she's campaigning -- >> the general election campaign from your perspective starts today. >> it started. yeah. started today. started three months ago when i hit her pretty hard. >> your tone, more presidential, or will you really go after her? >> look, you know, i went to the
best school, i am a smart person. i did well. i am who i am. i don't like to change. i don't like to change. sort of interesting, talk about will he be presidential? we had 17 people, all smart, one by one, week after week, boom, boom, boom, gone, gone, gone. i don't want to change so much. i want to use the same strategy for trade deals. and i want to use that same -- but i feel oi'm a presidential person. >> the same strategy you used to get rid of the other republican candidates you want to use against hillary clinton? >> i would say yes. a lot depends how they treat me. if they treat me at a certain level, i'll not looking to do -- you've seen i'm a counterpuncher more than anything else. i don't like hitting people first. i don't know how -- i guess -- i've always felt i'm better, like, certain boxers, better counterpunchers. i've been very successful. i've only been doing it for ten
months. somebody in your world gave me credit the other day, said, he's really been effective, we have never seen anything like it ever before and then somebody else said, and he's only been doing it for ten months. these people are been in politics for 35 years. >> very impressive that you came out of no political background for all practical purposes and now you're the republican presidential nominee. >> but i always have been very heavily involved in politics. so i haven't been elected and has never been my thing, frankly, and i wouldn't have done it this time, very happy to stay where i was doing. i have a great family, great company, really great company, and i love doing it. when i see the mistakes and stupidity of what they're doing with our country, the iran deal, the trade deals, the -- everything is so bad, military, they can't beat isis, when i see what is going on, i say, i have to do this. >> we come back, it is a democrats turn, front-runner hillary clinton has some tough talk for donald trump, when she sits down with cnn's anderson cooper.
hillary clinton fighting bernie sanders for the democratic nomination. she aimed at donald trump now that he's the presumptive republican nominee. she sat down with my colleague anderson cooper. here it is. >> just take us back to that -- to last night, the moment ted cruz dropped out and you realized who the nominee on the republican party was going to be. >> it seemed pretty clear for some time how it was going to turn out. but i also know what it is like
to keep fighting to the end because i did that in 2008. something can always happen. but it didn't surprise me at all that it was over last night. >> assuming you get the democratic nomination, are you ready for donald trump? he's already got an unflattering nickname for you. he's unlike any other candidate probably certainly you've ever run against, anybody has seen in a long time. >> anderson, i've seen the presidency up close from two different perspectives. i think i know what it takes. and i don't think we can take a risk on a loose cannon like donald trump running our country. donald trump has said it is okay for other countries to get nuclear weapons. i think that's just downright dangerous. he has said wages are too high. i think we need to have a raise for the american people. raise the minimum wage, get wages back going up. i think when he says women should be punished for having abortions, that is, you know, just beyond anything that i
could imagine. i think most women can imagine. >> he did walk that back. >> well, he's a loose cannon. he's somebody who has said so many things, and i'm sure he'll be scrambling and his advisers will be scrambling, but he's already said all of these things. he says climate change is a chinese hoax and i think it is real. and we have to pull the world together to deal with it. you can go down a long list, some of which he's tried to bob and weave a little bit, but i think it is a risk. i think he is a loose cannon and loose cannons tend to misfire. >> if he is a loose cannon, though, he's certainly willing to say things during a race against opponents and we have seen this already that a lot of candidates were not prepared for on the gop side. are you ready for that? >> i've sort of been in the arena for 25 years and i think nearly everything that can be thrown at somebody in politics and public life has come my way. >> you feel like you know how to run against him? >> absolutely.
but i'm not running against him. i'm running my own campaign. i'm running to become president, to really deal with the economy, get it working again, take on all the barriers that stand in the way of people getting ahead. i have a very clear mission in this campaign. >> but there are a lot of folks on the gop side who say they're running on the issues as well and that wasn't -- they weren't able to. >> maybe just don't -- didn't have the experience. maybe they just didn't want to take him on issues because they actually agreed with him. everybody in that republican primary didn't want to raise the minimum wage, don't believe equal pay is a problem, don't want to talk about climate change, a lot of the same views. so they were really trapped. they couldn't run a campaign on the issues that mattered to america and i can and i will. >> there are democrats who are just worried about you against trump, that you're not ready for whatever he may throw at you, that he's -- he's brought up a lot of stuff about a lot of people that nobody could have
predicted. he was quoting from the national enquirer just yesterday, you know. there is -- he's made references to your marriage, to your husband. are you -- >> he's not the first one, anderson. i just can't -- i can't say this often enough. if he wants to go back to the playbook of the 1990s, if he wants to follow in the footsteps of those who have tried to knock me down, and take me out of the political arena, i'm more than happy to have him do that. >> you're ready for that? >> oh, please, i mean, look, this -- this is -- this is, to me, a classic case of a blustering, bullying guy who -- who has knocked out of the way all of the republicans, because they were just dumb founded, they didn't know how to deal with him and couldn't take him on the issues because they basically agreed with him. and they didn't know how to counterpunch. >> do you think they waited too long? >> you'll have to ask them. i can't run their campaigns. they he have to run their own. i can only tell you the campaign
i'm going to run and the campaign i'm going to run is about what we will do in the future. i invite a lot of the republicans and independents who i've been seeing on the campaign trail, who have been reaching out to me, i invite them to join with democrats. let's get on the american team. let's get off the red or the blue team, let's get on the american team. >> just finely, senator sanders is taking issue with people calling you the presumptive nominee on the democratic side. what do you say to his supporters? should you be considered the presumptive nominee at this point? >> i'm not calling myself that. there are still some contests ahead and i respect senator sanders in whatever choices he makes. and i really -- i have a lot of empathy about this. i ran to the very end in 2008. >> you've been there, you know he what it feels like. >> i won nine out of the last 12 contests. people forget that. i won indiana. i won west virginia. i won a lot of states. but i couldn't close the gap in
pledged delegates and the gap between me and senator sanders is far wider than it was between me and senator obama. >> having been in his shoes, what do you say to him? >> i know what he said last week, which i welcomed, he said that he will do everything he can to prevent donald trump from being president of the united states. he'll work seven days a week. i'm going to really count on that. i want to unify the party. i'm going to be reaching out to his supporters who have far more in common with me and my supporters than they do with donald trump and his campaign. >> and up next, clinton versus trump, what to expect from the general election and the campaign that is breaking all the rules. [burke] hot dog.seen it.covered it. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪
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donald trump and hillary clinton speaking to cnn tonight and the war of words is just heating up. i want to get reaction from bob cusack, editor in chief of the hill.com, bob beckel, author of i should be dead, and political commentator carl bernstein, author of a woman in charge, the life of hillary rodham clinton. good to have all of you here. bob cusack, we heard from
hillary clinton and donald trump. clinton, release your tax returns. trump, release transcripts of your wall street speeches. #nothingreleased. good prediction. is that what we're in for? >> fasten your seat belt. we're going to see some crazy stuff. the debates, i think, are going to smash record ratings. but overall, yes, a big fight over the tax returns that trump has not released, and the transcripts. i think it will be very nasty. i think it will be very unpredictable. i think trump will have to do very well in the debates in order to win this thing. we have seen, don, he's done very well and in republican debates, good debater, so is hillary clinton. i just think it is going to be overall, though, one of the nastiest races you've ever, ever seen. >> carl, hillary clinton said she's ready to take on donald trump. if he throws a 1990s playbook at her, she says whatever it is,
she's ready, you wrote the book on hillary clinton. what do you think? >> she's very good at going negative. she wanted to bring out negative and leak information about george w. bush sr.'s supposed -- but i think we're talking about the wrong thing, we're talking what a hell of a show this is going to be. we haven't done the reporting. why have there been no, not a single investigative biography of any of the candidates that i know of on any of the major networks, cable networks. look, we need to know about these people's lives, and their records. we didn't get to know about, look, hillary clinton has been around for 40 years and we don't know about her as a person. why aren't we doing investigative biographies and putting them on the air before the candidates? >> i don't know for sure, i
haven't seen all the cable -- but, i mean, hillary clinton has been out there since the '80s. they're both two of the most documented people ever, don't you think. >> i wouldn't say that about donald trump. hillary clinton has are from the very beginning, the reason her negatives are high, she's been on the defensive now every day of her public life. carl wrote a book about her. a lot of people have written books about her. she's taken the hits. i've never seen her look as confident as she did tonight. does anybody think that a loose cannon pulled well, that was a -- usually that over and over again, you can see her entire campaign plan laid out there. i don't think -- donald trump had the advantage of running against the munchkins at the wizard of oz and now he has to take on somebody serious. >> bob cusack, weigh in. go ahead, bob. >> listen, i think the field was fairly strong. there were some weak candidates on the republican side.
but there were 17 of them and some of them were seasoned politicians like jeb bush and marco rubio and trump beat them all. i don't think that trump realized he could win this thing in the beginning. and he did. if it was cruz, clinton, i think you have a boring race. because i think clinton would have the big edge there. i don't think cruz could have won the reagan democrats. i think trump has a shot. he's the underdog. >> to carl's point that, you know, he doesn't believe that there has been investigative work done, and then -- >> there has in books, but we have much more power on television to put that story together. mull out what's in my book, pull out the reporting done on trump and put together a real documentary story of their lives. on bernie sanders. >> do you think we'll get to that? >> we should have gotten to it months ago, on rubio, on all of them. this is a great, great journalistic -- this is a great journalistic failing. >> we have six months left.
>> great on debates. >> do you think we'll get to that, when you have someone, hang on, carl, you have someone like hillary clinton, and like donald trump going at it with each other and not knowing, this is unlike any other campaign. do you think people will care about the investigative work for hillary clinton? >> i think they will to some degree. it has been in print. we have a long way to go. so i do think that it will transfer to television. to some degree. but overall, voters have made up their mind. a lot of voters made up their mind of who hillary clinton is and whether they like them or not. >> especially the trump voters, you think they could really care? >> as far as trump, they support trump solidly as well as hillary clinton. there is that small sliver of independence. i know a lot of people say they don't like hillary and don't like donald and don't know what to do. >> carl? >> this is a contest between two of the most disliked politicians
in our history. we never had a presidential race between two people who are distrusted by majority of the electorate. >> unfavorable numbers, 56% for trump and 49% for clinton. >> -- i don't believe as famous as hillary clinton is that we really know her whole story. unless you read the books. and same with trump, who has been out there since the 1980s. and we have the ability on television to let people make more intelligent decisions, not based on sand box celebrity culture, which we're seeing an awful lot of in this, dictated by the candidates and also the mutual interests of us as journalists on television, but we need to go deeper. >> i want to go deeper. let's go deeper on the issues and talk about the economy. over and over, everyone says the economy was the issue. donald trump brought up the economy last night. latest cnn poll, donald trump is beating hillary clinton on that
issue. he loses to her in a general matchup. is this something you think he can exploit? >> yeah, sure he's going to try to exploit. republicans always run ahead on that issue in polling in a presidential race. the more important question he is you got two of the most negative people, the most negative people running for president and there will be a desire on the part of the voters to know more about him. this is not something -- i agree with carl, i think the american public has two people, frankly they wouldn't want either one if they had their choice and want to learn more about them. i think that probably in the long run, we know a lot more about hillary clinton than donald trump, but this is going to be an election. if you wanted to get out there and do some real serious investigative reporting and put it on tv, the public would welcome it. >> carl, donald trump told the new york times about his trump presidency. he said, i know people aren't sure right now what a president trump will be like. but things will be fine. i'm not running for president to make things unstable for the country. friends and allies are telling me that the words he used to
describe his first 100 days negotiating, he's saying negotiating. >> he's saying things will be fine. it has to that's a hell of a platform. things will be fine. trump has figured out with perfect pitch starting with a neo fascist campaign that has enlarged to include a very deft analysis of why people are feeling pain and don't believe in the institutions in this country anymore. and he's tapped into that and he owns that space now. hillary clinton does not own it. that's her problem. her problem in the rust belt. >> carl, the fact is that donald trump got 10 million votes so far in this election. it is going to take 60 to 70 million votes to win. he's got a long way -- he's got a sliver of people, we have all been to the rallies, scares me to death. but trump supporters, they got
their motorcycles. but the reality is that we keep talking about trump's popularity, among reagan democrats made their mind up a long time ago, dead or voting republican. so i just -- let's remember, one other thing, first election in the history of the country where less than 70% of the people will be white. >> he's a long shot, 20, 25% chance that most republicans believe including those who support him. >> bob cusack, let's talk about a donald trump presidency. by his 100th day, are we going to start seeing a wall, a ban on muslims entering the country, new supreme court justice? >> well, you see a new justice because i don't think garland will be confirmed either before the election or in the lame duck session. but overall, that's what donald trump's i think strength is going to be. he's going to try to make that a strength, i can make deals, i can work with the other side, and his supporters are okay with that. hillary clinton worked with republicans when she was in the
senate. but she is seen outside the beltway as a polarizing figure. that's her challenge because people want problem solvers, that's where trump is going to maybe the case, i can be the problem solver, because honestly, if hillary clinton becomes next president and i would say she's the favorite at this point, a long way to go, that republicans in congress, they're going to have the house in all likelihood, the senate is up for grabs, i think republicans are not going to be keen to work with her on day one or day 100. >> last word, thank you, gentlemen. carl and the bobs, two bobs. appreciate it. >> bye, bobs. coming up, new information on the last days of prince. did help arrive too late? ♪ (music pl♪ throughout) uh oh. what's up? ♪ ♪ ♪
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did the attorney or the addiction and pain specialist say that it was definitely addiction the doctor needed to treat? >> no. the attorney did not say that. he said it could have been for pain management and/or addiction. so never came out and said for sure that he was there because prince had an addiction to opiates. what he didn't say -- what he did say, though, was that this was a life saving mission and that brings up a lot of questions, because just down the road, from prince's paisley park, there is a place that treats addiction. and so this -- there is a lot of questions going on right now, why send someone from so far away, why call someone who is a doctor who then sends his son who is not a doctor on a life saving mission. so there are a lot of questions that are going to be looked at by investigators into this case. this was a real revelation. nobody knew the person whose voice was on the phone calling
911 was someone who had never met prince before, who had just shown up at the home to try and help him, and that he called 911 because everyone there was so distraught, that person being andrew cornfeld, the son of a well known pain management and addiction specialist, all the way in california. >> so explain this to me. maybe a little confusing. there is an attorney here, former attorney who is speaking out for siblings of -- explain what is going on, saying he had an addiction to percocet decades before he died? what is going on here? >> so this attorney is in minnesota. he had represented two of prince's half siblings years ago. and back then he had lots of conversations with them. said the reason why he came forward to talk about this is because he thought oh, my goodness, i wonder if this had anything to do with what i heard from dwayne nelson, who was prince's half brother. dwayne nelson and prince, he worked for prince for many years at paisley park, had a falling out and they were estranged,
dwayne nelson sued prince even. this attorney took on that case and said that over the years, dwayne was telling him that prince had a problem with percocet. that he was the person who had to go and pick that up for prince. dwayne has since died, so has the sister who confirmed that to the attorney. and so we can't independently corroborate that. but the attorney we spoke with, who represented these two, half siblings, said he was taken aback when he heard that prince had died so suddenly and he wondered if that had anything to do with the information he had heard about that he was taking percocet back in the '80s and '90s. >> that was confusing. a former attorney of two of prince's deceased siblings who is making this claim. now i got it. now i got it. so the u.s. attorney office -- attorney's office and the dea joining local authorities with this investigation. what can you tell us? >> that gives you some indication that there are -- they're going to be looking into
nefarious activity when it comes to things like potentially the prescriptions and we know from law enforcement sources that there were pills that were found on prince, and also in his home and so far investigators have said they he can't find any evidence that he had a valid prescription and they're looking for details. having the drug enforcement administration come into this and being called into this, that tells you about where this investigation may be going into prince's death. >> sara sidner from los angeles on the investigation into prince's death. thank you very much. i appreciate that. >> you're welcome. i want to discuss this with dr. drew pinsky, host of hln's "dr. drew," an addictionologist. you've been listening to sara's report. c tell us -- >> no, no, what we heard was that he was using percocet years before. he was using them after concert, an abuser of percocet, we don't know he was an addict. what we specifically don't see he is the arc of progression and
behavioral disturbances you see associated with addiction. i've spoken to many recovering addicts who have a pretty good eye for the disease of addiction and they agree there would be a pretty strong reach to consider him an addict having hidden all of these years with that disease away. as far as percocet, 81% of the percocet prescribed on earth between 1991 and 2013 was prescribed in this country. nearly 100% of the vicodin tablets on earth were prescribed in the same time interval in this country. we have a grotesque, grotesque tsunami of overprescribing opiates. it is easy for him to have gotten his hands on this. as far as him having a valid prescription, he probably had a prescription in somebody else's name. he was getting special care. here he has a doctor dispatched across the country, when in fact, as sara mentioned, hazelton betty ford treatment center is four miles from his house. the premiere addiction treatment center in the country. simply throw him in the car, get
him to that center, confidential, he would get thorough treatment there. now, it looked like what he was going to get was the more conrad murrayesque care in his home of somebody attempting to detox and manage his care in his paisley park home. which, again, had we learned nothing from conrad murray. >> if they called you for help, how would you have responded? >> i would have said put him in the car, take him to a city center, premiere center in the country, don't need me, put him in the car, take him down there now. and patient should not be dictating care. the patient has a sick mind, whether he's dependent or addicted, i don't know. but they'll figure that out there. i should not be flying out to meet him when around the corner, literally around the corner the premiere center for the treatment of these disorders sits. you can go there, and you can be assured you'll be treated confidentially, you're entitled to confidential care, you are highly protected. when the patient starts dictating the kind of care he or she wants, end up with conrad
murray. they should be participants in the decision-making, but to dictate the care, that ends up in disaster. >> i said according to the relatives, i said allegedly had an addiction to percocet, you said, no, we didn't know that. where is the line between needing a prescription medication for health reasons and becoming addicted to that medication? >> addiction again is a life long progressive behavioral disturbance. what we're seeing is people that look like addicts that are really dependent on the drug which i suspect, again, i don't know, i suspect that's what's going on with prince. in that he gets in a situation where he probably had some sort of underlying chronic medical problem, interacting with the medical system, he was given opiates appropriately and then it got out of control. there is something called hyperalgesia, he begins chasing the opiates, the pain gets worse, now in a cycle of real trouble. we hear he was cutting down. one of the common complaints of people cutting down, tell me, a,
i feel like i have the flu, we heard the flu complaint, and i can't sleep. we also heard rumesumers he hadt slept for 154 hours. someone will then give him a sleeping medication, then he slips back into the opiate use, that combination is lethal. my fear is you'll find both in his blood and that will be what made him stop breathing. >> so we know where his body was discovered, in an elevator, the day after his representatives reached out to the doctor and the sheriff said there were no signs of trauma. what is your questions about this? what questions are you asking? >> my questions is why was allowed to continue to progress with his substances? why did very access? why wasn't he getting proper medical supervision? why was he able to dictate the care? why weren't the people around him insulating him from proper care and not mandating proper care? everything is going to be told
by the autopsy. did he have a sudden death there in the elevator? will we find a cardiac event or stroke or nothing other than modest levels of opiate and i fear the ladder. >> so six days before his death, we talked about that private plane made an emergency landing and he was carried to paramedics waiting at the airport, taken to a hospital, but left with just a couple of hours, against medical advice, by the way, my thiight s have turned out differently if he stayed at that hospital? >> of course. somebody could really sink their teeth into him, get him proper care. we hear he was unconscious on the plane, so my hunch based on 30 years of experience is he was trying to cut down, but took a usual dose and that was enough to really knock him out. in the field, the paramedics come across an unconscious patient, and all get the same shot, the narcan, they didn't know, they give him narcan, he
wakes up sufficiently in the hospital, he responded to demand to leave against medical advice. you learn nothing in two hours in an emergency room with an unconscious patient or almost nothing. no doctor, no hospital would let somebody in that condition walk out without signing out against medical advice. >> dr. drew pinsky, thank you, sir. dr. drew airs at a new time at 7:00 p.m. eastern on hln. thanks to dr. drew. we'll be right back. ♪ one coat, yes! ♪ there is a day, for every number. ♪ ♪ there is a time, for all my slumbers. ♪ ♪ and i can see, that i can't run and hide. ♪ one coat guaranteed marquee interior. behr's most advanced paint. come find our top rated paints, only at the home depot.
we have moved on from a lot of things we loved in the '80s, the fashion, the music, the television. but the digital revolution changed the world forever. >> the memory, it is internal memory, built inside of this computer. >> the new computers were big, ugly, difficult to use inventions when they first came out. >> it would crash and you had to figure out what to do. it would not always create the right results. so it really did take a mind set of someone willing to cut it some slack. >> don't take big steps. >> everybody kind of agreed this could be the next great thing after the printing press if we do it right.
it is not just having a machine. the world needed to be made better. those are the things that actually can lift a society into a new way of thinking. >> my gosh. do you remember that? i remember that. i love the '80s. joining me is noah bushnell, co-founder of atari. i loved atari. i played pong, my first game i played. welcome. you've been called the king of video games for your role in -- there it is. for founding atari and creating a legendary game, pong. it was huge then. if you were starting all over again today, what kind of technology would you be focusing on? >> well, i like certain things to do with augmented and virtual reality. i think those are really fun. my sons are involved in it. i've got a company that is doing a little bit of vr. it is a good project to take the new tools and spin them in some new and interesting ways. >> you started this video game
boom. how do you see -- how do you see the impact of those games now in our computers and cell phones? >> well, i think game play has become a really important part of everybody's life. most people's. and the fact that our phones are really good game players are great. what i've been disappointed in is that we have all this technology with us everywhere but in schools. the schools are way behind where they should be in getting this technology into the classroom. which is really a powerful teacher. >> yeah. i want to ask you about your favorite video game being the pioneer of this. mine were -- i had two of them, pac-man, but my favorite was galega. i loved that game. it was great. what is your favorite? >> i think asteroids in terms of
real good -- very good game play. it also happened to be the first one that had a microprocessor in it. and that sort of makes an interesting historical note. >> i remember that one. i had all these games, by the way. so my had forgotten. you have eight kids, i understand? are they gamers? >> that's correct. all of them, yes. >> when the '80s, you know, you think about the '80s, what comes to your mind? >> well, i think of a time where the potential of the computer is just starting to be felt. i mean, '84 was the introduction of the macintosh. and the ibm pc in that area. and all of a sudden, the software was getting good enough, you could actually really do things. spreadsheets and the games were
getting pretty good in the pc world as well. i think of it as a massive jump in capability, of computer generated technology. >> so, mr. visionary, what do you see the next ten years looking like? >> oh, it is going to be wonderful. we're going to see full transformation of the education system using more technology. kids using technology today can probably learn ten times as fast. and so i see that is going to be a big change. the second part is i think augmented and immersive reality is going to be an important part. vr is as close to the whole deck as rowe cyou can get if you're wars fan or star trek fan and augmented reality is going to change board games and family time around the dinner table.
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