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"amanpour" is next. for our viewers in north america, "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. we're operating places we didn't have to. hi there. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you so much for being with me on this thursday. hours from now, duelling rallies in the race for president of the united states. first up, donald trump. i can tell you he will be in west virginia 7:00 eastern time. the very same hour that hillary clinton will rally in california. the first campaign events from either candidate since donald trump became the presumed
republican nominee. for weeks now, trump has teased his supporters that he hasn't even started in on hillary clinton yet. could that begin tonight? as for the former secretary of state,
you saw the democratic front-runner say right here exclusively that she is not running against trump. she is running her own campaign and the new ad hits trump and his party pretty hard using the republican party's own words to tear down donald trump. >> i am a unifier. we'll be a unified party. ♪ >> he's a con artist. >> a phony. >> he is the no-nothing candidate. >> donald is a bully. >> this is an individual who mocked a disabled reporter. >> i don't remember! >> who attributed a reporter's questions to menstrual cycle. >> trying to make him look small. >> don't worry about it, little
marco. >> that's a just a piece of that ad. it's a when i will wind 24 hours. let's appreciate what donald trump has done. the last time a businessman with zero political experience earned a presidential nomination, 1940. wendell wilkey 76 years ago and while trump's ascension, it's unacceptable to a number of republicans, among them, a spokesperson said george w. bush will not participate in the
2016 race. a source says his father bush 41 will not attend the republican convention and this just adding in to all of this, the last republican nominee for president mitt romney we're told he is also skipping the party's convention in cleveland, as well. so, let me bring in cnn's cleef correspondent dana bash, senior political reporter nia henderson and jonathan allen.
yellow, you got the memo. i'm starting with you, starting there. let's begin with the mitt romney news. what specifically is he saying as far as why he won't be in cleveland and then read between the lines for me. >> i don't think we have to read between the lines. you heard some of what a reminder of some of what he said that devastating speech that he gave about donald trump not that long ago. didn't have any effect. mind you on the republican voters. in the primary states that made donald trump the nominee. but look. he doesn't want to have any part of it neither clearly do the bushes and one part of the story. the other part of the story that's developing and has been over the past i guess 36 hours now, brooke, that we talked about a little bit yesterday is the third party. and whether or not this republican party as we have known it is truly going to be ripped an i part in the sense that the people who are in the
still never trump movement will find a candidate to be a third party candidate and sources of a past day or so say that they're trying to find somebody. everybody they want who is viable has said no so far and they're not giving up and hoping that now that the fact that trump is the nominee, that's the reality that could change their minds. >> won't be endorsing or campaigning and you have the senate majority leader mcconnell saying he'll support trump with expectations of meeting obligations. how does trump moving forward unify the republicans? >> you know, it's awfully hard to do that and it's going to be more of them just saying, you know, that he can unify the party or that the party is already unified and reach out to some of these folks who have been so outspoken against him.
i think he has to ally a lot of the feerls that he is unpredictable. one hand, he is branding himself as unpredictable but it turns a lot of people off. we saw that tuesday peddling the "national enquirer" story about ted cruz but also, you know, he was in the position to win in indiana and became the presumptive nominee so he's got to kind of stop doing that. we have talked so much about trump being presidential. right? he's got i think make good on the idea that he can be more presidential. so i think that's what a lot of people are looking for, sort of fulfilling the obligations of what it means to be the leader of a party. >> and note that he told wolf yesterday on "the national enquirer" bit he didn't believe it but something he used. on that, jonathan, sorry, ladies first and then to you, you heard the latest. we played a piece of the hillary clinton campaign ad against
trump noting, you know, creatively using -- these are republicans' words against the republican -- presumptive nominee. she's walking this fine line. when she sat down with anderson cooper yesterday and he quoted that elizabeth warren tweet and she said -- she didn't say i agree. he said elizabeth warren is a smart lady. how long will she walk that delicate line? >> not very long. i don't anticipate this is going to be bean bag. we are looking at nuclear war here in political terms between these two candidates. both of these candidates trying to drive up the other one's negatives and the way trump did, a brilliant observation by ted cruz in the middle of calling him a pathological liar and serial philanderer he said he figures out the weakness and calls the other person that and said any number of untrue things on the campaign trial and
calling him lying ted and that stuck. i think you will see the candidates unload on each other and may not always come from the candidate's mouth. donald trump likes for it to come from his own mouth. hillary clinton doing it a little bit more traditionally with her campaign and i doubt this is going to be a tea party of a presidential campaign. >> do you think, do you think, dana, that we'll see a different trump tonight in west virginia now that, you know, he admitted he's already in general election territory? >> you know, possibly. look. he has to walk a fine line because he got where he got by being donald trump. by, you know, being different. by saying things that made a lot of people cringe. even by his own estimation, his own wife at times. and so, he wants to keep giving that to his core supporters but he also understands that -- should understand that he is the
effective head i should say of an entire party right now. and that gives him a whole different responsibility. and i mentioned the people in the never trump movement. there are also senior people who are saying, okay, i'm along for the ride, including mitch mcconnell, the senate majority leader, but in his statement last night, he was very clear. basically show the money. it is your responsibility now, donald trump, to unify the party, prove that you're a real conservative and to prove basically, i mean, i'm, you know, giving my interpretation of his statement, you are a grown-up. so he's got to do both of those things and, you know, he's got a lot of time to do it and it is possible to do it but, you know, it is not so easy given how far out there donald trump has been successfully so. >> well, then you also have the republicans, you know, some of whom maybe who haven't run. they're nervous with trump at the top of the ticket and then someone of the likes of veteran john mccain saying at a
fund-raiser he's caught saying this. listen to this. >> but have no doubt that if it is donald trump at the top of the ticket here in arizona with over 30% of the vote being a hispanic vote, no doubt that this may be the race of my life. people are angry. they're upset. they feel that there is this disconnect. >> nia, valid feerls? >> yeah. valid fears. i mean, he is looking at a very tough re-election race. a lot of these other senators on the ballot and thinking that donald trump is obviously going to be at the top of the ticket, they are concerned. and it's not just about latinos who view donald trump very unfavorably. his numbers also among white women are also horrible. if you look at the way mitt romney, he won essentially 59% of the white voters in 2012. donald trump at least in the head to head matchups of hillary
clinton at this point at 52% of white voters so he's actually underperforming among white voters at this point. so he's got a lot of work to do. first in trying to rally the typical republican voters like suburban white women and then moving on to try to expand to african-americans and latinos. >> finally, let me move back to hillary clinton, jonathan. you argue in your piece that hillary clinton needs to learn from of all people ted cruz. how? >> well, i think what she has always done is tried to play up her strengths and you heard that in the interview of a few minutes ago. she wants to talk about how good she is, how effective she is and perhaps seed some ground to donald trump on areas he may have strengths. that's what she's done traditionally with barack obama and bernie sanders and she has to figure out how to go after trump on her perceived weaknesses, neutralize the things people don't like about her doing what trump did to
others like ted cruz and project them on to trump. dishonesty card is a big one for her potentially. >> thank you so much. >> thanks, brooke. >> thank you. >> programming note for all of you, house speaker paul ryan will join jake tapper this afternoon here on cnn. do not miss that. next, the demand for another option, the drumbeat louder for a third party candidate but who might that be? and who might it impact the most? we'll discuss that. and the images are absolutely stunning. have you seen this? an entire town forced to evacuate through a wall of smoke and sffire. we'll talk with someone who just made it out by helicopter. intense fire fight that killed a navy s.e.a.l., the heroic actions in the brutal fight against isis. keep it right here. (vo) whatever your perfect temperature...
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welcome back. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. donald trump versus hillary clinton. that could be what we're looking at come november. but you know what? that is not the best choice for some republicans. number of them demanding another option, a third party option. since donald trump declared the presumptive nominee. some republicans burned their party registration cards, declared they'll do anything to block a trump presidency. nebraska senator ben sasse writing, quote, why shouldn't america draft an honest leader who will focus on 70% solutions for the next four years? you know, an adult? joining me now, leon wolf, managing editor of red state.com. leon wolf, nice to have you on. >> thanks for having me, brooke. good to be here. >> you said, you know, you could, mr. red state yourself, be compelled to vote for hillary clinton over donald trump but welcomes like the senator is trying to give you and perhaps other republicans another
option. what would you like that option to look like? >> well, you know, let me say this. nia alluded to this in the last segment you had. the thing donald trump did on tuesday going out there on the day he was going to sew up the republican nomination and said that ted cruz's father was involved in jfk's assassination. because of something he read in "the national enquirer." >> in a tabloid. >> not the behavior of a mentally balanced individual and expect it from a mental patient off their medication and lives at home with 20 cats. >> wow. >> and really, the united states has a nuclear arsenal large enough to destroy all life on the planet. we have a moral obligation to keep him away from that finger on the trigger. what that looks for each different person is different. i won't be a party to it. i hope there's an option on that day. >> let me look back in a second. we have more in context with
wolf sitting down with mr. trump. we know libertarian candidate gary johnson. he wants to be president. i actually talked to him rea century. let's remind america. here's his pitch. >> really made a name for myself being fiscally conservative. i may have vetoed more legislation than the other 49 governors in the country combined. but coupled with being fiscally conservative is the notion of being liberal. so in 1999, i was the highest elected official in the country to call for the legalization of marijuana. the fact that the drug war rages on, the fact that 20 million americans but for our drug laws would otherwise be tax paying, law abiding citizens. there's a very real islamic terrorist threat but let's stop with military interventions. >> so that was a piece of our conversation. what about gary johnson? i mean, could that be the third party candidate you and other republicans could get behind or
no? >> well, you know, the libertarians haven't selected their candidate yet, of course. they have their convention over memorial day weekend and gary johnson is not my preference because he's not no-life. austin peterson is more my speed and i think for a conservative like myself all of the good options have really left the building and closed the barn door behind them. we're looking at less bad options and gary johnson did as he pointed out have a pretty successful record as governor of new mexico. a libertarian who's pro-life, that i could get behind but the republican party does not any longer stand for the reducing the size and scope of the federal government. if they did, they would have gotten behind ted cruz and not embracing -- >> who would you embrace? who would fall in the category of less bad options in your opinion? >> gary johnson gets a look.
austin peterson. if there's somebody else, ben sasse. or -- >> he's lot going on, a wife and kids and saying we should have another option. who else? >> right. i feel like that's a song we probably heard before but, you know, somebody like rick perry, a guy that i would support if he wants to come in off the sidelines. really, the bottom line we want an option on the ballot that is not donald trump that might not be hillary clinton. >> okay. leon, before you go, i wanted to asked about merit garland. you and a number of republicans are saying have to get him confirmed before, you know, a potential hillary clinton presidency. despite, though, i mean, mitch mcconnell seems steadfast in what he's saying about no way. you tell me why you want this to happen. >> well, i mean, look. i consider it to be pretty much inevitable that donald trump will lose in september and the senate and the gop, as well. merritt garland is not the worst option that's available. not a great option but older
probably than anyone hillary clinton would put forth and i think quite frankly the time that we need to take the less bad option available to us. same thing with the nomination. good options are gone. look at the least bad option and i think garland is that option. >> less bad. is that really where we are? less bad. leon wolf, thank you so much. red state.com. come back. >> thank you, brooke. coming up next here, 88,000 evacuees. 1,600 homes torched and little hope in sight as dozens of wildfires just continue to burn there. we'll talk to a man forced to make a harrowing escape by helicopter taking a duffel bag and his cat with him. plus, the names are already starting to leek out but thus far plenty of thanks but no thanks. will donald trump punt for a running mate be more difficult than expected? >>that is until ou clips a food truck, ruining your perfect record. >>yup...
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nearly 90,000 people impacted by the fires so far. and an entire city has evacuated. >> it's a disaster. i find that it's not fair. they didn't really even let us take our things. when we asked them. so we lost everything. >> and i am -- you know, the whole -- the people here are devastated. everyone's devastated. the community is going to be devastated. >> entire neighborhoods consumed by flames. speaking with a man who escaped in just a second but let's begin with ctv reporter peter okackma. you are at an evacuation center. how many people are there? >> reporter: we're at the main
evacuation center. as you mentioned, seven out of control. completely out of control. and ripping towards fort mcmurray and through that area. hearing a lot of main structures are burning down. here at the evacuation center, there are about 500 people staying here. many others evacuated and many others more south of here. the one who is are staying here, they say they have lost everything. and so, the donations pouring in. everything from diapers to dog food. for people who have really escaped with their children, their pets and the clothes on their back. a lot of people very frustrated, though, because as these firls were moving and reporting about them moving through the area, they say they weren't given that much notice and then all of a sudden the fires turned, it was on their community, the home, the school, the hospital and they were forced to get out and flee with whatever they had. they were hoping that they would have a little bit more time, little bit more notice and so
they are here. they're gathering up what they can. some are sleeping here. others are moving on to more southern destinations to wait out and see if their home is still standing at the end of this. >> that is peter ackman at an evacuation center. let's go to a hotel where peter fortnau is standing by. he evacuated with a bag and a cat who i see standing over your left shoulder there. i'm glad you two are okay. you're now in edmonton, about a four, four and a half-hour strive drive away. how long have you been there? how bad was it when you left? >> it was pretty bad. i've been here since 4:00 in the morning on tuesday. oh, he's had enough apparently. i got in at 4:00 in the morning on tuesday. left fort mcmurray about 10:30 on -- sorry. 4:00 in the morning on wednesday. left fort mcmurray at 10:30 on tuesday.
>> do you have any idea about your home, your neighborhood? >> just what people have been saying there. hasn't been any official reports yet. nobody really knows for certain. i mean, we are all -- we are all hopeful. but then again, i'm sure my neighborhood is one of the ones that's gone now. that said, you know, it is just thankfully everybody's safe. that's the thing. >> what does that feel like? i can't imagine -- i know it feels helpless watching, looking for my home on the news amid the walls of smoke and fire. >> well, to be honest, i'm les worried about the home and more worried about the people and the community, and really a lot of minds going towards what happens now. you know, how do we rebuild and how it's rebuilt? the community's not nearly as easy to bring those back as we
have learned in other areas where there's been massive destruction. so i just hope we're able to build the community again. >> before you rebuild, though, to your point, you're right, the people are the priority. have you been texting with your neighbors? did most -- did everyone heed the warning? >> yes. as far as i know. everybody close to me in fort murray is able to get out of fort mcmurray. i worked for a lot of indigenous orna native american communitie in fort mcmurray. they're heart broken but they've been able to escape. also, a lot of -- i have friends who -- from those communitiless also volunteer firefighters so they're still out fighting the fire. i can't give enough props out to them. you know, one thing i was able to leave but they're still there trying to do everything they can to save as much of the community as they can. >> incredibly dangerous for
those firefighters. you're right. we should keep the fire teams front and center in our minds. one of the prettiest places i have been in this world. thinking of you, your communities. stay safe. we'll keep in touch and just thank you so much. we're thinking about you. >> definitely thanks for the time. yeah. if anybody does have any -- would like to contribute, red cross is taking donations so i encourage everybody to donate there if they're able. >> i'm sure we're lining up the organizations go. to cnn.com/impact. peter, thank you very much. we'll move away from canada in a moment and back to the political trail, the campaign trail with his sights set on november, donald trump and his team are eyeing potential running mating. so what are the chances to choose a former republican rival? on the short list. also later, it was a day long fire fight.
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welcome back. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. as the presumptive nominee, donald trump's general election campaign has really begun. almost as soon as the names floated for running mate, basically all three said, thanks no thanks. new mexico not interested. south carolina governor, my plate is full. ohio senator, quote not interested. he was florida governor rick scott that endorsed in march
tells cnn if offered i'd pass. >> i'm going to pass. i will do everything i can to make sure he wins. both our state, if he wants help nationwide, anything i can do to make sure he wins but i'll stay in this job and have a good partner in the white house. >> this can perhaps be problematic for donald trump admitting he needs an experienced politician for a well rounded ticket. >> i would want somebody to help me from a legislative standpoint, getting things passed, through senate, through congress. and to me, that's why i think probably in terms of vice president i'm going to go the political route. i don't need the business route. i have that count. >> a governor or senator? >> maybe a senator. >> joining me now, tony frank, vetting a controversial pick, sarah palin. nice to have you on? >> thank you for having me. >> i don't want to rehash twapd
in '08 with mccain and palin, but you're the perfect person to talk to because talk to me about, you know, whether you're a donald trump or let's say it's a hillary clinton, how do you choose? how do you determine whether you go with a safe pick or the big risk, big reward pick? >> well, there are two aspects. vetting aspect figuring out what sort of negative things will be said about your vice presidential candidate if you select him or her and then there's the selection aspect. what -- what does the candidate add to the ticket? will they be a good president if god forbid something happens to you? did they compensate for your weaknesses or reinforce the message you're trying to send like the clinton/gore ticket in '92. >> what's the biggest lesson you would say you and the mccain team learned that you would pass along to either of these nominees? >> well, don't pick somebody at the last minute i think is a
lesson that the campaign knew at the time. but anybody you pick needs to help your ticket either by being a good candidate on the merits all by themselves or by compensating for the weaknesses that you might have on the ticket. >> we just ran through a couple of names floated by the trump campaign and all of whom who essentially said thanks no thanks. ted, do you think that it's possible a no in may could become a yes in july? >> no. i think the people saying no now really do mean no and you need the cooperation of somebody in order to be considered because you need to go through the very personal investigation. that can't happen without the cooperation of the potential candidate. if somebody says no, they probably do mean no. >> okay. in the entire vetting process,
you say lesson learned, don't do it at the last minute, what are the most important questions in the vetting process? >> well, the vetting, again, is just doing opposition research. learning what's -- >> making sure no skeletons in the closet. >> you can have skeletons in the closet. you have the know what they are and make a conscious decision, yes, i want this person even though they have an unwed teenage pregnancy in the family or something like that. and that mccain knew the positives and the negatives with palin and made the choice because he felt that she added excitement to the ticket that he needed going up against obama. >> is there something wrong with that, though? >> i don't think there's anything wrong with that and i think it worked for him. he took a good bounce in the polls and it was lehman brothers collapse that did in his campaign, not sarah palin. sarah palin drew mccain ahead
immediately after the convention. >> on the note of excitement, and as i mentioned a second ago about, you know, big risk, big reward, i want you to throw out some potential names. let's start with donald trump who could be the running mate, who would be the excitement, big risk, big reward? >> oh, if you want to go really exciting, you go for somebody like oprah winfrey which he mentioned before. i've mentioned that jokingly that oprah winfrey would add more to the ticket than snooky. >> that's great. >> but he has mentioned oprah. and she's a self-made billionaire. and she would cure a lot of the concerns, a lot of independents -- >> let's assume oprah says, no. just crazy thought there. >> that's probably what would happen. >> he wants somebody already in congress, somebody with political chops. who would that person be? >> probably like newt gingrich or jeff sessions. they don't add anything to the
weakness of the ticket other than experience. but they have been supportive of trump and could step in and certainly would serve the role of political ally. but your vice president doesn't need to be the one negotiating any deals. you can have newt gingrich help you negotiate with congress whether or not he's your vice president. >> quickly, hillary clinton. who could be on her ticket. >> i'm thinking somebody like tim kaine or cory booker. another name is hud secretary castro. but i think in terms of skeletons in the closet she is better off with somebody like a tim kaine. >> oprah winfrey. and you did that with a straight face. ted frank, thank you. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. >> you got it. just a reminder, house speaker paul ryan joining jake
tapper this afternoon here on cnn. next, new video shows the fire fight with isis militants claimed the life of an american hero. a navy s.e.a.l. we'll talk to a former s.e.a.l. who has seen the video and will talk us through when's going on and also about the terror group's capabilities. that's next.
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soldiers and s.e.a.l.s. 31-year-old navy s.e.a.l. charles keating iv. decorated veteran and star athlete killed while trying to rescue advisers in that attack. let's bring in a former navy s.e.a.l. deployed to iraq, brandon webb. nice to have you on. you worked with special ops. he's also the author of "among heroes. nice to have you back on. >> thank you for having me. >> we were talking to eric, your s.e.a.l. buddy eric about this yesterday. out of the gate, you have a message just for the s.e.a.l. community and just concondolenc >> yeah. the come don enss to the family of keating. we have over 20,000 social
operations forces and s.e.a.l. is a tiny amount, about 2,000 active duty and the s.e.a.l.s since 9/11 just carried a heavy burden and taken heavy losses an it's a tough day for the community for sure. >> keating was from what i read inspired after 9/11 and wanted to join in and fight for this country. and died valiantly doing so. as far as the fire fight, we know isis managed to assemble about 12 fighters, 20 vehicles. it was a peshmerga checkpoint. you watched this video. with your s.e.a.l. eyes, what do you see? >> it's obvious there's, you know, when i initially saw the video, looked like an ambush or an assault but you can tell just by the reaction of the u.s. forces that just come under fire after years of being in combat and the training, but they look like they were dealing with an effectively and we call it getting off the "x." when you have a contact, you have to get off the initial
contact point and initiate some type of forward maneuver or defensive posture to sit there and do nothing is definitely not the solution. we have a saying in -- a good decision executed now is better than a perfect one much later. so definitely the guys you could tell just to come under fire and, you know, we've been at this since 2001. >> and the choppers overhead, helos, you thought medical. >> yeah. definitely h-60 helicopters. typically used in medevac situation. they're coming in with little weaponry. a door gunner on board. it shows you we have a very experienced fighting force. u.s. and coalition partners. you know, but what concerns me and especially, you know, given the current presidential election environment is that whatever -- whoever our next president is, you really need to develop a strategy to stamp out
radical islam at the root core. >> i was talking to a number of sailors out there who are, you know, we saw the ordinances wheeled on the f-18s, taking off and getting the coordinates and saying to me, only so much to sort of say on camera as they're active but, you know, they're paying very close attention, many thousands of miles away to what's happening right here. you tell me why this matters so much. >> well, you know, we have been at war with radical islam for a decade and it's real clear to me that, you know, like i said, the u.s. special operations community is the finest fighting force that this planet has ever seen. >> adding 250 more over there. >> it's a part of the solution. you know? but it's like a whack-a-mole. if he don't stamp out radical islam at the root core, we'll be in this continual war on terror indefinitely. you know, how do we stop a group like isis?
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with week's "turning points." >> reporter: rachel pine knew what she wanted to be at 5 years old. >> i started signing my papers rachel violinist. >> reporter: as 10, she solo'd with the chicago symphony orchestra. at 17, won gold in violin at the international bach competition. her star was on the rise until a train ride in 1995. >> it slammed shut and the train moving and i had to decide, let myself be dragged or free myself? >> rachel did wriggle free but the train severed the left leg and foot. she endured more than 45 operations. >> i'm grateful to be here and that they were able to pretty much put me back together. >> reporter: six months after the accident, she returned to the stage. the following year, she performed at the democratic
convention. 21 years after she was injured, rachel released her 30th cd, continues performing across the country and has added mom to her repertoire. >> there's a myth to undergo tragedy for a better artist. what about the positives? the wonderful moments in our lives. it enhances who i am as person and artist. >> reporter: dr. sanjay gupta, cnn, reporting. and we continue on. watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me. hours from now, we'll have duelling rallies. donald trump in west virginia this evening. 7:00 eastern. and at the very same hour, hillary clinton will be speaking at a rally in california. it will be trump's first campaign event since he's become the presumptive nominee for the republican party and for weeks
and weeks mr. trump teased supporters he hasn't started in on hillary clinton yet. might that happen tonight? what might his tone be? as for the former secretary of state, you saw the democratic front-runner saying here excleeseively to anderson cooper she is not running against trump, running her own cam pin and yet have you seen her new ad? it hits trump and his party
hard by using republicans' own words to tear down their presumed nominee. >> i am a unifier. we'll be a unified party. ♪ >> he's a con artist. >> a phony. >> donald trump is the no-nothing candidate. >> donald is a bully. >> this is an individual who mocked a disabled reporter. >> i don't remember! >> who attributed a reporter's questions to her cycle. >> blood coming out of her wherever. >> the most vulgar person to aspire to the presidency. >> the man who seems to only feel big trying to make other people look small. >> don't worry about it, little
marco. >> just a piece of the whole thing. let's bring in donna brazile and tana gertz. la ladies, welcome. >> hello. >> hello! tana, you know, democrats may call hillary clinton's ad crafty. you call it what? >> desperate. i mean, we haven't gotten started and she is already desperate, making a statement but let me tell you what. i know what will happen here. i believe i know what will happen here. and all those people that said those things about mr. trump will get behind him and support him because they would rather have mr. trump in
the white house than hillary clinton when it comes down to it. >> how is she desperate if she didn't say a single word? she uses republicans' own words against mr. trump. >> i meant desperate in the fact that she is putting out an ad
already. i mean, she hasn't sealed up the nomination. so, you know, i just think that this was -- she was striking first and, hey, i don't have anything to do with the hillary clinton campaign and so whatever she lochooses to do is her business. i watched it an thought, wow, like why did she do that already? this seemed a little unnecessary. >> what do you think the hillary clinton campaign is doing, miss brazile? >> i can't speak for the hillary clinton campaign because as you know i'm a neutral super delegate and we have a race on -- >> as being on this panel. >> that's right. leading in both delegates in the raw vote, there's no question that the republicans have given not just secretary clinton but the entire country a lot of material to choose from. donald trump has given us perhaps more material than we can even use because we don't have enough time. so there's question that these ads that are relatively easy to
make because the material comes directly from the candidates who competed against him in the primary. donald trump has one major challenge today and that is to try to unify the republican party. and hillary has to continue to look not just to what philadelphia and the democratic convention, but also the fall election while she'll go up against a very unusual, uncanny candidate. >> how does, donna, staying with you, it's all the republicans' words that are used against mr. trump, you know, secretary clinton sat down with anderson just yesterday and, you know, she was asked about that elizabeth warren tweet. the senator very forceful called trump mysogonist and anderson said, would you agree? she said, i think elizabeth warren is a smart lady. how long will she walk this line? >> secretary clinton has to talk about his message. she has to talk about what she
intends to do and her vision for the country. senator elizabeth warren, you know, sent out a tweet. i might have retweeted it. you know why? she is absolutely correct when you say the things that donald trump has said about mexicans, about muslims, when you, you know, i can't even say what he said, you know, about other groups of americans. about women. there's no question that it's offensive. and people are going to use that against him to try to distance him from the rest of the republican party so no question that what secretary clinton has to do, put her own vision and message out there. likewise, donald trump on the republican side and a lot of material he's given us a lot of material. he's a reality tv star. he's quite entertaining and can be serious coming to building a wall and doubling down on banning muslim and muslim americans from entering the
united states. that has to be on the table. >> tana, let's focus back on you and take the dems out of it for a second. in cleveland, mitt romney says he won't be attending the republican convention in cleveland. >> bummer. >> facetious? >> yes. >> okay. just so i'm clear. bush 41 and 42, they will not be endorsing mr. trump. we do know that the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell saying essentially i will support donald trump. with expectations that he meets my obligations. you know, you may not be so bummed that mitt romney's not there. we remember his speech from utah not so nice. you need some of these voices to help unify the party. how does he do that? >> he will definitely do that. i mean, we just learned this information tuesday night. it is new. it is fresh. it is raw. and mr. trump will continue to
reach out to the american people and, also, other republicans. all the people that were running will probably most of the majority of them probably get behind mr. trump because at the end of the day they don't want to see hillary clinton in the white house and rally behind him. mr. trump has a lot of work to do unifying the party but he is capable of doing it. he's more than a reality tv star. i happen to know him very well. he's a master builder but a master businessman. he is the best in the business. the list goes on and on. i would suggest to all of your viewers to go get a copy of "the art of the deal." not for him to make more money but see the brains behind the man. he is more than just a trump brand. he is -- he is the best. >> i understand. what about the bush republicans? what about, you know, romney republicans? even though you don't care that romney won't be there? don't you agree that you need them? >> well, we do. i have a lot of people that have reached out to me from utah that are romney republicans and
they're completely 100% on the trump train. so i'm not concerned that mitt's following, they're all going to stay with mitt. i believe they're going to come over. i mean, at the end of the day they're republicans. if they're true republicans, they will vote for the republican nominee and that's donald trump. and then we will win and hillary clinton, democrat, will not be in the white house. so i'm not so worried about mitt romney following. i believe they're coming. just a few of them, like i said, have already reached out to me and said we're all aboard the trump train. >> okay. final question. on another republican who's been around for quite a while. john mccain. someone that, you know, trump attacked many months ago. we have this recording of him behind closed doors at a fund-raiser worried about his own political future with trump at the top of the ticket. here he was. >> but have no doubt that if it is donald trump at the top of the ticket here in arizona, with
over 30% of the vote being a hispanic vote, no doubt that this may be the race of my life. people are angry. they're upset. they feel that there is this disconnect. so, and if you have friends of yours or you listen to or watch hispanic media in this state and in the country, you will see that it is all anti-trump. the hispanic community is aroused and angry in the way that i haven't seen in 30 years and so this is going to be a tough campaign. >> tough campaign because of donald trump. this is john mccain. this is someone a lot of republicans listen to. >> and a lot of americans respect but service to our country. look. john mccain has run -- >> right. >> -- for president. he knows what it takes and he also understands that the hispanic vote is a demographic both in this country and if you
look at the registration numbers, whether it's texas, california, nevada, et cetera, arizona, people are angry at the kind of hateful rhetoric that they heard from mr. trump and that's -- they want to go out and register and participate. you know what i say? good. >> hmm. that's donna. tana, you want to respond? we got to go. >> i was going to say i know a lot of people are upset but a lot of people, a lot of hispanics -- i was in nevada when mr. trump won the hispanic vote and in arizona. and there are a lot of hispanics that are 100% behind securing the borders. mr. trump is resonating with a lot of them. i agree with john mccain. this is a tough struggle but at the end of the day he is a republican and donald trump is a republican nominee. and it's either, you know, we vote for -- they vote for donald trump or hillary clinton in the white house. i understand it's a little bit difficult but if we all -- you know, they get behind him 100%
focused on winning the, you know, the election, we can do this. and we will do this. >> tana, thank you. donna, i saw your fingers. >> no. i was saying it's a small, small percentage of hispanics that might support donald trump. they want a leader who will unite the country and who will stand up for all americans and that's not donald trump. >> donna, tana. >> we'll see in california. >> thank you. bye. >> bye-bye. bye-bye. thank you so much. >> bye-bye. gloria borger, hello, hello. >> hello. >> let's bring you into all of this. what about, you know, some of the other republicans, about sharing, you know, a john mccain's concern, for example? he is not the only republican concerned about down ballot issues. some republicans saying where's the third party, you know, potential candidate? what say you? >> well, i think -- i talked to lots of republicans who are working on senate and house campaigns.
and their feeling is each man for himself. that in this presidential race, you're going to have to run a local race. you will have to run like you're running for sheriff. okay? even if you're running for the united states senate. particularly those republican senators who are up for re-election in blue states. you know? this is tough for them. so they have to walk a -- you know, they have to walk a very fine line and they have to say, look, i'm a republican. but this is what i believe. this is where i disagree with a presidential candidate donald trump or this is where i agree with him. if there's a third party candidate, it becomes a little bit more tricky. but i also think this is where the speaker of the house paul ryan comes in. very important. ryan is going to have an agenda. and it is an agenda that lots of republicans will agree with. so if, for example, they disagree with donald trump on the question of deportation,
right, they can then say, but you know what? i agree with the house speaker and his agenda. and we as republicans will be able to work it out. so they're trying to find a way for these republican candidates who -- to thread the needle. they're going to be lots of races, particularly house races, where donald trump is going to have very strong coattails, will do really well and help a lot of republican candidates and they understand that, as well. but for some of them, it's going to be a very difficult path to navigate and that's what i think you heard there from john mccain. >> yep. yep. as far as the trump team beefing up, adding a finance guy -- >> yeah. >> you know, focused on raising money for the general, he knows he needs to match hillary clinton dollar for dollar. how do they catch up? >> it's interesting, of course. brooke, you know that donald trump has been running a campaign that says that people who raise money from special interests are the puppets of the special interests. and beholden to the special
interests. so now you have a superpac being started. we'll see what donald trump says about that. he will have a joint fund raising committee with the republican national committee. we'll see how they raise money for that. we'll see what size donations his campaign takes. for individuals the max is $2,700. does he limit it to the bernie sanders $27? does he take larger contributions? how much of his own money does he put in? how does he adjust the narrative to say, yes, i am now taking money but i am still not beholden to the special interests the way that hillary clinton is? you know, that's something he will have to deal with how he navigates that. >> gloria borger, always a pleasure. >> thanks! >> gloria mentioned, had great points of speaker paul ryan. he will be on with my colleague jake tapper at 4:00. coming up next, donald trump
outlines what he plan to do first 100 days if elected the president of the united states. priority number one for mr. trump -- we're about to tell you. also ahead, this was former mexican president fox reacting to donald trump just three months ago. >> i'd be clear. i'm not going to pay for that [ bleep ] wall. he should pay for it. he's got the money. >> well, now, mexico's former president saying this about trump now that he's the presumptive nominee. we'll have that for you ahead. you're watching cnn. ♪ uh oh. oh. henry! oh my. good, you're good. back, back, back.
office since the very beginning. here's a campaign video from february. >> so many people are asking me, what would i do on my first day in office. well, you have executive orders all over the place, so many would be determine nated. good thing of an executive order signed by our president is it's unsigned immediately. you don't have do go through congress. so i would get rid of the attack on our second amendment because that's what obama is doing when he does that. i would very, very strongly get rid of the attack on the border. we have a border that's like a piece of swiss cheese. >> okay. hyperbole or reality? my next guest is "the new york times" offers a forecast of what trump's first 100 days in office would look like. welcome, patrick healy for "the times." nice to see you. >> good to see you, brooke. >> okay. first 100 days, what is priority number one for him?
>> i think rescinding obama's immigration executive orders, high on his list and then he wants to sort of telegraph very quickly that he's got designers and engineers working on what the wall on the mexican border would look like. ordering an audit of the fed which a lot of his conservative base voters want to see quickly. and then, talking to the state department and his national security team about putting in a temporary ban on muslims coming in 0 the united states. he has talked also quite a bit about how he's going to turn to military generals and others in the armed forces for advice, not just on the border, but also, on national security challenges, more than the sort of foreign policy experts and intellectuals and folks like that. so he clearly wants to send a
message that if he gets elected change will happen very quickly. >> following through on what he's been running on. what did i read in your piece of turning the oval office into a boardroom? >> he as you know, brooke, thinks of himself as a deal maker, a negotiator. that everything that one could want can be achieved through the art of the deal as his book was titled and his notion is that there's no better place in the world to do a deal than in the oval office. you know, i asked him, does he really want to live in the white house, spend time there when he's got his, you know, penthouse apartment, he said absolutely. bring in ceos who are looking at moving jobs out of the country, bring them into the oval office in a sort of sit them down, you know, jawbone them into what his, you know, position is or find some kind of common ground
and he just kind of kept talking in business terms. that is what he is comfortable with. that's the kind of power he's comfortable projecting. >> negotiating. you talk about common ground. he talked to you about building a government based on relationship. what did he mean by that? >> that's right. it's the idea is that he's not going to just be reaching out to people who he raises money for. necessarily. the way presidents sometimes build allies in the house and senate by going and holding fund-raisers for them and raising money. for him it's the art of the shmooze and bringing mcconnell and ryan to florida, golfing with them, wining and dining them and talking about what they want to get done, where they can find common ground. as you know, both president obama and president george w. bush were not the biggest shmoozers they liked keeping their personal times to
themselves. president obama is criticized for not reaching out to republican leaders and kind of using the perks of the presidency to kind of bring them in to the fold. and -- >> or when he has he's criticized for playing golf with them. >> right. exactly. >> will we have a gold-plated white house? >> doesn't sound like it. it sounds like he won't go crazy on the redecorating and leave that on the plane. >> okay. patrick healy, thank you very much. next, a break through in the bat 8 for the children killed in the mass shooting at sandy hook elementary school. what a judge decided and what it means for gun manufacturers next.
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watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. marked a legal battle. let's bring in february ra feyerick. what happened? >> well, the judge today this week said for the families who lost loved ones at sandy hook elementary school they can begin the discovery process, that the gunmakers must turn over the documents that the families prove that the gunmakers aggressively marketed this ar-15 semiautomatics. this is key. they believe it's as big as what
was found in the tobacco industry lawsuits which showed the tobacco industry knew that they were marketing a product that was addictive to the general population. it completely changed a company and an industry that was once untouchable. this is what the families believe can now happen because they say that marketing strategies used by the gun makers essentially targeted a violence-prone segment of the population, this they took these firearms made for the military, made for combat an put them in civilian hands without any sort of instruction, without any sort of qualification for using these and that because of that this really became the gun of choice for people in these massacres and seen many massacres and it's no coincidence that the gun that's used is ar-15 because it's powerful, it is fast and you can get a lot of bullets off very quickly. and, you know, i spoke to the families saying what makes a firearm okay when it fires 7 to
8 bullets in seconds into a child? and so that's really what the argument is. now the gun makers saying, look, we should have to undergo the lawsuit because statute said we are not liable if a gun is used to commit a crime. the families are saying, oh, we are not going after that. we're going after the fact you're deliberately marketing to people you know are not qualified to handle these firearms. so it's a very interesting strategy. >> we have reached out to the gun manufacturers. nothing so far. >> correct. >> thank you very much. come pg up, how the world is reacting to donald trump clinching just about officially the republican nomination including the british prime minister who once called donald trump stupid. the pursuit of healthier. it begins from the second we're born.
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as word of donald trump's presumptionive gop nomination spread around the world, the response is swift. take germany's conservative newspaper, for example, the quote is the unthinkable has come to pass. while in the uk, prime minister david cameron doubling down on his own anti-trump sentiments. >> g-7 moves to italy next year that donald trump could be representative of the united states. do you think you owe apology for calling him decisive, stupid and wrong. >> what i said about muslims i won't change that view. i don't change that view. i will -- i'm very clear that the policy idea that was put forward was wrong, is wrong and will remain wrong.
>> go to live london to cnn's phil black. we know prime minister cam ran says he has, you know, zero intention of apologizing. i'm curious bigger picture beyond him, how have others, how have mps reacted towards trump there in the uk? >> reporter: well, throughout the campaign, brooke, they have launched with fascination, certainly, increasingly disbelief and nervousness, i guess. in particular, at points where donald trump has commented on the situation here in the united kingd kingdom, he's trigged a bit of a negative response. at one point, around the time david cameron made the comments describing the perspective ban on musliming saying it was stupid, radical and wrong and police are afraid to enter some places in lon doan and triggered e nor vous unhappiness of people because, well, it is not really true. though there are clearly some points that londoners, prime
minister david cam reron, reall disagree with donald trump but they'll get to discuss these things and likely that donald trump will, in fact, come here. that's what they do. they visit london some point. david cameron says he's very willing to welcome donald trump here and says he is, in fact, deserving of respect for having endured and triumphed in that long, grueling primary process, brooke. >> we talk about this, reminding the american audience, london could be on the verge of electing a first muslim mayor in that great city. thank you so much. from the uk to latin america we go. reaction closer the home. just across the border, mexico, vincente fox backing down from the attack on donald trump. here's what he will say. >> i will be clear. i'm not going to pay for that [ bleep ] wall. he should pay for it. he's got the money.
>> now he's backing down. sort of. >> yes, yes. i'm humble enough as leadership should be, compassionate leader, if i offended you, i'm sorry. but what about the other way around? >> is, raphael romo, let's bring you in. i see your smile and so let me just -- is that a sorry not sorry kind of apology? >> that's right. that's just hilarious and very typical of vincent fox and other thing of this feud of fox and donald trump is that in terms of strategy, fox used to be what trump is now. meaning, he was -- he would portray himself as the ultimate outsider. that's what helped him win the mexican elections in the year 2000. now, that's where the similarities end.
his strategy in terms of connecting with the people was uniter, not a divider. and if you told him there's anything similar between him and trump, i'm sure vincente fox would not be happy, brooke. >> there's vincente fox and also seeing with argentina's leaning over into the world of sports. tell me about the argentine soccer team. >> it's a very, very clever and creative ad, but let me give you a little bit of back grund on the story. the united states is hosting the america cup. regional soccer tournament that will bring 16 teams from central and south america to cities like chicago, seattle, houston and los angeles. now, the ad from argentina is very cleaver because it takes donald trump's words and turns them around to make a very simple point. that is, if the united states lets us in, we're going to be unstoppable. of course, brooke, is ad isn
talking about the people but the soccer team which as you know is considered one of the best in the world, so when donald trump says, they're killers, the ad shows their top players scoring amazing goals. when donald trump says, we need to build a wall, the way the ad is edited seems to suggest, yes, building a wall around the goal line is the only way you're going to stop us. let's take a look at the ad. >> sure. >> the united states. we don't even know where these people are all coming from. they're coming from all over. they're coming from south america. these are total killers. these are not the nice, sweet little people you think. okay? we have no protection. anybody can come in. it's very easy. it shouldn't be that way. we need to build a wall. >> we need to build a wall. says donald trump. then you see somebody scoring an amazing goal, brooke. >> never a dull moment. raphael, thank you so much. and just quickly here, we just
wanted to pop this up on the screen and want you to be the judge on this cinco demayo, this is what donald trump tweeted out. eating out of a taco bowl and tweeted taco bowls made in trump tower grill. i love hispanics. you be the judge. tell me what you think. send me a tweet. next, cnn gets exclusive access to the world's most advanced submarine. >> so i'm standing on the bridge of the "uss missouri." it's a nuclear attack submarine so rare visit, really, one of the most incredible things i have done as a reporter f. you wonder what it's like inside underwater, come inside. we'll give you a view.
aboard the "uss missouri." watch this. >> reporter: the "uss missouri" nuclear attack submarine. sailing to exercises in a deep dive off florida. the atlantic is on the front lines of a new cold war. we joined for an exclusive embark. the "uss missouri" is an attack submarine. it can launch torpedoes as other submarines and surface vessels. it can launch missiles at ground targets. gathers intelligence, can deploy navy s.e.a.l. units for special operations. it is the most advanced submarine in the world. and it is facing the most advanced threats to u.s. submarine forces in decades. russia is deploying attack submarines in numbers and with aggressiveness and advances in technology not seen since the cold war. and now china, north korea, vietnam, india and others are joining a new arms race under the sea.
commodore lewis commands ten atlanta-based subs including the "missouri." >> we're operating places we didn't have to rely on an adversary being there to challenge us. that's changing. we have to now consider that there's an adversary ready to challenge us and the undersea superiority is not guaranteed. >> reporter: new threats require a new state of readiness which we witnessed at every turn. >> 2-5 and 8. >> commence launch. >> reporter: "missouri's" 135 crew repeatedly train for anti-submarine warfare. >> fire! >> reporter: they simulate firing torpedoes and cruise missiles from depth towards targets on sea and land. >> torpedo course 337, unite running. wire good. >> reporter: they're constantly testing the speed and maneuverability. >> we're in the midst of the another steep ascent. you're hearing that alarm as we
approach 20 degrees. we're going to get to 25-degree angle. keep in mind, i'm standing up straight now. but as i'm leaning forward, that's keeping me vertical in relation to the ground as the angle gets sharper. these are exercises but the "missouri," the mightily mo to its crew, has come nose to nose with real world threats. russia annexed crimea and launched military action in syria, the "missouri" was deployed nearby and when a russian sub turned up off the coast of florida in 2012, it is the "uss missouri" called into action to track it. >> that's showing, hey, where they can go. >> see, i think it's operational experience. if anything were to ever happen they have experience. they know those waters. i don't think it's a political statement on their part at all. >> reporter: the "missouri's" greatest asset may be the silence. invisible to satellites, virtually inaudible to other ships and subs. >> dive, dive. >> reporter: giving the u.s. the element of surprise. >> whether there is a submarine
there or not they don't know. a potential adversary has to take that into the calculus. when they make decisions to do bad things. >> reporter: and so underwater is where the boats and their crews spend 90% of their time deployed. "uss missouri" is coming into port now, may port, naval station in jacksonville, florida, and that's not something if you're a submariner you do very often. most recent deployment, out for 181 days, 163 days were at sea. that is the life of a submariner. that is a call to action the u.s. navy's 70 submarines are getting more and more often. >> wow. he's back. he's off the sub. >> survived. >> good for you. you know, listen. i'm claustrophobic and i don't know how i'd be on a submarine for 36 hours, led alone 6 months. what surprised you the most? >> underwater you don't realize
you're underwater. below 200 feet, higher up you feel the roll of the waves but underneath that, it's a steady state. it's quiet. a bit of a hum. the temperature's always 70 degrees. the light's same. you don't really feel it. of course, showing off stuff like the angles and firing off missiles or practicing for . >> did you get the sense that, you know, we want to stay at the top of our game russia and russian subs on the heel as far aztec nlg as technology is concerned? >> yes, the u.s. is condition if i dent that they have an advantage. they know that russia is doing their best to break that advantage and try to catch up. they just introduced a whole new class of submarines that is difficult for the u.s. to track. do we sometimes lose track of them. that's classified and we will not tell them that.
that's plausible. that's russia's intentions. they operate and give e mouse amount of capability. >> incredible. incredible that you had that access. thank you for sharing. still ahead paul ryan is adjusting to donald trump. will he endorse him? an exclusive interview minutes from now. [plumber] i need to be where the pipes are.
technology got personal. >> the customers were people that had a business reason for having these things or a p super rich dude that wanted to show off. >> it's called cellar because as you travel the signal from the phone travels from cell to cell. >> if you have not had one before, you can have one in a decade as the price comes down into the range of other high-tech toys. >> there were people that understood in the early days that being trapped in a car was not freedom. people are fundmently naturally mobile. >> joining me now is yahoo tech founder david and it's nice to meet you. >> nice to meet you. >> my producer called me and
said that we're doing a segment of cell phones in the 80s. i was like no we're not. >> yeah, they were a huge thing. the funny thing today is that phones are not phones. phone is the wrong word for this. >> it's everything. >> the last thing that they're going to do is hold it to the head and talk to it. it's internet and apps and not talking. >> remember when it was like putting cameras in phones, and you were not no, i'm not going take a picture with my phone. you wrote the mac for dummy. >> yeah, years ago. so the mac was another big 80s and that book was in the 80s. the funny thing about it is that they say that you wrote macs for dummies like it's supposed to be easy. i think that apple took something complex like the computer and limited it to nerds
and said that anyone can use this. that backfired in a way and now the masses were presented with the steel technology and then a lot of them are frustrated by it. it's not as easy as pushing the buttons on an elevator. there's a clash and echos on to today and the high-tech and high featured count and those that are not prepared for it and don't get an manual. >> people don't read the manuals? >> imagine that. >> so from the huger harrah of the cell phones to the mac and the video games, i remember my era was sort of atorie and yours was ponk. >> yeah, it was the first time that we had seen anything on the tv that was not broadcast. it was our own doing. i had a friend bryan weir and he
had graphics and it was like -- >> you sat there and blew your mind. >> yeah, we could not guess what they would look like today. at the time it was like you're controlling what is is on the tv. mind blowing. >> what if you brought one thing and one thing from the 80s that we could be using today? mine was the walk phoman. what was your favorite thing? >> the walk man and the first video game and first phone and personal computer and all of that stuff in the 80s is with us and modified in a slimmer form. the seeds were all planted then and people like me were getting out of college. >> still with with us. my mom has held on to my bright pink neon phone from the 90s that's like a precious piece of
history. >> that's the answer to your question is innocence. i wish that we had the 80s innocence. >> do not miss the episode tonight 9:00 eastern here only on cnn. coming up jake tapper has paul ryan. hello it's "the lead" they face a choice that might baffle king solomon. some say the most unrepublican in the nominee. donald trump will lead and in a few minutes will paul ryan endorse trump? some republican thought leader, senators, members of the house are already refusing to to walk down the aisle with the soon to be nominee. we're her