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here we are, top of the hour. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me. we are expecting the leader of house democrats, nancy pelosi, to come out on capitol hill and talk about this historic protest that lasted for more than 24 hours. democratic members stanled this sit-in decrying the lack of
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action on gun control days after the orlando nightclub shooting. the deadliest shooting in the united states. democrats left the house floor and went to the steps of the u.s. capital. they were greeted. you can see this picture. before leaving, the man who set off the sit-in, civil rights icon, congressman, john lewis, he spoke. >> we're going to go home, as jim suggested. we're going to organize, mobilize. our people are with us. not just in our district but people all over america and around the world. social media told the story. >> after the sit-in was well in,
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we heard from house speaker, paul ryan, especially calling this a publicity stunt. speaker ryan ended aup floor session and shut down the house camera. the democrats went to social media to keep the images up and running. speaker ryan insisted the public should not be swayed. >> they are not trying to get this done through regular order. instead, they are staging protests. they are trying to get on tv. they are sending out fundraising solicitations like this one. house democrats on the house floor, your contribution will go to the dccc. $15. if this is not a political stunt, why are they trying to raise money off of this, off of a tragedy. >> speaking live at capitol hill, my colleague manu raju. tell me why they decided to end the sit-in and was it unanimous?
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>> they emerged from a closed door meeting. my colleagues sensed and i did as we interviewed the members leaving, there wasn't really the stamina and desire to continue this through the recess and also realization that politically this may not work. it may not get as much attention. this was probably the right time to pull the plug on it. their motto is, no bill, no break. democrats were debating whether or not to have a skeleton crew coming back and making their voices heard. they are clearly not going to get a vote. they think they can win this argument with voters, take it back to their home district, make the case and they should get a vote. at the end of the day, they believe they achieved their objectives. it was clearly just an act to rile up their base and not do
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anything more than that. we have watching and waiting to hear from house minority leader, nancy pelosi, talking about the sit-in for the past 24 hours. the bill they wanted to see come to a vote would prevent those on terror watch lists. it turned out diane black from tennessee. nice to have you on. >> thank you, brook. good to be with you. >> we now know the sit-in over, your thoughts on what the dems were trying to do? >> i'm very disappointed. what was going on there is beneath the dignity of this institution and lacks respect for congress. we have rules. we are not allowed to drink anything, eat anything on the floor. we are not allowed to use our cell phones. they broke every one of their rules. they were there in their pajamas, eating pizza, drinking beer. i think it is unconscionable what they were doing. there is a way for them to bring this to the floor. >> is it the beer or the pizza
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you are offended by with all due respect or is it a little bit more than that? it is the fact that they brought these things that are prohibited. they were taking pictures, sending them out and using this as a fundraising tool. i am really disappointed they used this. there is a way, called a discharge position. we have rules and we should be abiding by those rules. besides which, they were stopping us from doing our work. the american people, the hard working taxpayer dollar don't want to see all these antics up here. they want us to do our work. >> i get it. i appreciate the rules. i also do know, talking to a member of congress yesterday, who reminded me it wasn't too long ago under leader pelosi that the republicans staged something similar and the democrats that turned the lights off. >> i think we have to be fair about that. you have to be fair, brook. >> do you give them any kind of credit for their passion, for
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what they feel so strongly about, including congressman lewis? >> first of all, when the republicans did this, they were in recess. that's different. there are things that can occur on the floor during recess. we were in session. let's make it straight and have no disrespect for the session. do i respect their passion? absolutely. i don't close down the floor because i don't get my way. that's not the way we should be operating. we should have more respect for this institution than that. this is a deeply personal thing for me. i am a second amendment person. i have experienced being assaulted and now have a weapon to protect myself. that is my right. i don't want anybody to take that away from me. >> will you tell me about that, what happened at vanderbilt some years ago? >> it was a number of years ago. i was walking in the middle of the day. i had come out of one of the buildings where i was conducting some business. we had a group of church women. walking on the sidewalk and
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there was a car with three young men that pulled up on the curb. i knew i was in danger. i turned to try to run back to the building. they got out of the car. they attempted to get me in the car. the police said if i would have gotten in the car, i probably would have never come back. they beat me up, broke my cheekbone, ruptured a disc in my back. i realized i have a right to protect myself and i am going to take advantage of that and i have. >> my heart goes out to you. you 100% have a right to carry a weapon, to have a permit. i talked to david jolly, your republican colleague to introduced no fly, no buy piece of legislation. what does your right have to do with whether or not you are on a terror watch list and the fact that you shouldn't be able to buy a gun if you are?
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that was voted down. there were also democrats. that bill as opposed about the aclu. that was take ago way the fifth amendment the right to due process. we have to look at this situation and say, what do we need to do? i am learning more and more about the no-fly list. my husband was on some similar list. we had to figure out how did he get on this list. it was because he had a common name. he couldn't get a ticket printed out at home if he was going to fly in less than 48 hours. he was finally told if he put his middle initial in, he would probably be taken off this list. we have a right to due list. if people are being put on that list, we know ted kennedy was on that list, and not know or find out until you apply for a gun permit or you try to get another ticket and you refused that,
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what if i had a death in my family and they said, we have three days before you can actually fly. so we need to get a handle on just how we use that no-fly list. >> i understand. again, talking to folks on the other side. there was an excellent column in "the washington post," anna gabrielle said, i'm on the no-fly list. if your husband wanted to have a gun, he could probably have a gun at the same time. if someone has nefarious intentions and they are on that list for the right reasons, why do you think they should be able to own a gun? >> i do not. i do not. let me make that very clear. if someone is rightfully on a list that shows they are potentially a terrorist, we do not want them having a gun.
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the list we currently have, i would love to come back and visit with you. i am going to make a trip out to the fbi. i am going to look at this list. there is a lot of confusion on how you get on there, how you find out you are on there and how you get off of there. >> we have to make sure that lis it is being used appropriately. >> look at what happened in orlando. that man was being watched by the fbi, isn't it curious why he would not be on that list? we have to look and make sure we are not taking away someone's constitutionally protected rights. i'm all for that. let's open that up, have an honest discussion and get down to the point where we can say, if you are on this list and on their for a reason, absolutely you should not be able to get a gun. let's do it reasonably and not with all of this that is happening right now. this is not the way congress should be acting. >> thank you so much for your
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pe perspective. we will talk post fbi. congressman diane black from tennessee. thank you very much. >> we have more break news here in the u.s. supreme court delivering a massive blow to president obama's agenda blocking his plan for millions and millions of dreamers, undocumented immigrants facing deportation. hear how the president reacted earlier today to this. in baltimore, the police officers facing the most serious charges in freddie gray's death is found not guilty. we have the reason, the reaction in that city. coming up -- some frightening moments today inside of this movie theater in germany. what happened after a masked gunman stormed in and took hostages. i'm brooke baldwin. this is cnn special live kofrm. . all providers. all self-motivated self-starters. drive with uber and put a dollar sign in front of your odometer. like this guy. technically i'm a cook. sign up here. drive a few hours a day. make $300 a week.
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immigrants from possible deportation. when you think of president obama's legacy, it is a huge blow. he wanted to add this plan as part of his legacy when he was out. it is a huge win for 26 states, most with republican governors who challenged the plan. they claimed the president abused his executive powers. president obama speaking calling this outcome heartbreaking, saying the immigration debate is now in the hands of you, the american voters. >> what was unaffected by today's ruling or lack of a ruling is the enforcement of priorities that we have put in place. we prioritize criminals. we prioritize gang-bangers. we prioritize folks hoff just come in. what we don't do is to prioritize who have been here a long time, who are otherwise law-abiding, who have roots and connections in their communities and the supreme court wasn't
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definitive one way or the other. if we have a full court issuing a full court opinion on anything, we take it seriously. this, we have to abide by. it wasn't any type of value statement. if we are going to solve this effectively, we have to have congress pass a law. i have pushed to the limits of my executive authority. we now have to have congress act. hopefully, we are going to have a vigorous debate during this election and that's how the democracy is supposed to work. there will be a determination as to which direction we go in. >> let's go first to our supreme court correspondent, arriane
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devogue. >> reporter: as you said, the 4-4 split blocked the lower court to block the program. the supreme hasn't issued an opinion but upholds the court. all we have got is this piece of paper saying they were eventually divided. it is as if they have never heard the case. in some ways, they think it is a waste of time because they didn't issue a big opinion here at all. p one other point is it shows the power of a lower court judge in texas who was able to first block these programs nationwise. he was later upheld by the appeals court. it goes to show the power of that one judge that started this. >> now that it is a split, the issues kick back down to the lower court. ariane de vague, thank you. we have heard from house
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speaker, paul ryan saying, quote, the president is not permitted to write laws, only congress is. he would meet with merritt garland. you have these 4 million undocumented immigrants that are very much in legal limbo. jeffrey tu bin, our go-to guy on all of this. gentlemen, welcome. mr. toobin, to you first. first of all, what happened to these 4 million people? >> well, the president said two things. he said, in terms of deportations, we are not p going to pursue them just as we have not been pursuing them in the past. that's not a guarantee that a different president would have different priorities. certainly, for the remainder of president obama's presidency, they are not going to be pursued. the other thing he said is our plan to give them permission to
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work, to let them come out of the shadows, to start paying taxes in an open way, all of that is on hold. that is not going to happen because of the supreme court's decision. >> so when you look at the politics of this, we are well into this election, professor. the president only has six or so months left. when you talk about legacy building, this was such a key cornerstone for him. this executive action on immigration. how big of a blow is this? looking post oval office. >> it is very significant. immigration is one of the areas of policy where he got blocked by the post 2010 congress. he has not made progress. he used executive action. for the supreme court to make this decision/indecision effectively puts this on hold. with a policy like immigration, uncertainty itself is a problem. this is a blow to a policy. it shows some of the limits as the president said of executive action. it can easily be undone.
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>> when you look at both presumed nominees here, i am sure they are already rallying the troops, how will this help galvanize both dems and unify the republican party on their stance on immigration? >> for democrats, it will mobilize many of them, many voters, many immigrant voters to see what the stakes are in this election. >> she has moved farther left than president obama. >> exactly. this might bolster some of the enthusiasm for her and her candidacy. it will do the same for republicans. this shifts the issues away from donald trump and all his rhetoric. toured, a policy. many republicans care a lot about. they might want to double down on their side to make sure there is a president who continues with the path the supreme court has just decided on. >> brooke. >> in a very simple sense, this
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underlines the importance of the supreme court as a voting issue for president. we have this vacancy. we are likely to have more vacancies. in the other big decision today, which endorsed affirmative action, the supreme court has the last word on all these issues. it is a very closely divided court. there is one vacancy. there are likely to be more vacancies. the next president will fill those and people should cast their votes with that in mind. because there is no greater power of a president than to nominate supreme court justices. >> thank you for underscoring that, jeffrey toobin and julian zelzer. appreciate you both. we have more breaking news in the city of baltimore. the police officer facing the most serious charges in the death of freddie gray found not guilty on all charges. we have reaction from the courthouse and what this means for four other police officers
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second-degree murder. prosecutors argued goodson intentionally caused gray severe spinal cord injuries with reckless driving. the judge said the evidence didn't prove it. officer goodson did not take the stand. gray's death -- forgive me. we are going to pull way from baldy more and go to house minority leader, nancy pelosi focused on the sit-in. >> the american people on their radical and reckless obstruction to bipartisan, very popular gun safety bills. the republicans turn auoff the microphones. we raised our voices. they turn off the cameras, we went to periscope. they tried to shut down the discussion, and what resulted was a discussion heard round the world. all this trouble just because the republicans refused to give
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us a vote on common sense gun violation. the republican house should have the courage to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and suspected terrorists. no bill, no break. well, they then, the dark of night left the house with two more days of work to do and left for almost two weeks. unbelievable. the point is this, members have just become totally tired and frustrated. every time we have a heart wrenching tragedy in our country, from gun violence, the carnage that it produces, whether it is little children six years old in newtown, whether it is these young people last week in orlando, whether it
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is church-goers in charleston, across the country, you name it, it breaks your heart. families suffer. they can never really be made whole. we hope to give them some hope that their grief and so many of them who are grieving have turned their grief into action in toward get some gun laws passed so that other families are spared. every time it happens. we have a moment of silence indicative of the silence. how many more times do members expect to stand for a moment of silence and we do so reverentially. the book of james, deeds not
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words. so you have seen with orlando and that first anniversary of south carolina, you saw june 17th, the anniversary. we are stepping into a new world in terms of this struggle. p a widening universe of advocates, on ever-widening circle of different sectors of our dem graphics in our country. veterans forming committees chaired by gabby gifford. general mcchrystal wrote the op ed about the involvement of veterans in this fight. on any number of occasions during the night, i quoted some of these op eds related to the additional diversity engaged in the anti-gun violence and the involvement of our veterans.
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so public safety. public health, protecting the american people is all related and what do the republicans do, instead of giving us a vote on guns, they passed really pathetic zika bill. it has been four months since president obama submitted his emergency supplemental bill to reque request zika. think of that, four months for an emergency funding. house republicans have doddled, delayed and obstructed trying to short-change our response to this virus threatens to do devastating damage to american families and children. some children that might be affected by this, not being able to walk, talk, hear or see. it costs about $10 million to sustain their lives for the short time that they will live,
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maybe ten years old. malformations, it is sexually transmitted. it is very dangerous. we shouldn't be messing around with some kind of bill that does nothing. it is so bad that they brought a rule to the floor saying no debate on the bill. they knew there was just no case to be made for it. they knew there was a strong case to be made against it. here we have an appropriations bill bill, a military construction v.a. bill. they attached this to that. they bring it to the floor. it is required to have a recorded vote. there is a stipulation as there are requirements as to how you handle an appropriations bill on a floor. they are usually all under an open rule. this is a conference report. that part is different. i tremble at what they will do
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next during regular stand-up bill. conference report and no debate. so what opportunity was there? the debate on the rule. no debate on the rule. that is not only highly unusual. i have never seen that happen p the dead of night without debate. more focus on atking women's health thand protecting women's families. cuts off women's access and undermines our veterans as well. on this subject, undermines our veterans, it is a false economy to say, i'm not going to pay to prevent and contain zika, because you are going to have to spend much more money dealing with the affects which are tragic in people's lives.
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so the doctor said on the subject, if we don't get the money the president is asked for, the $1.9 billion, that is going to have a very serious negative impact on our ability to get the job done. that was disappointing. again, i cannot conceal the satisfaction that democrats have p and, again, working with john lewis, with the actions of katherine clark and david sisilini, with the management of it all by john larson all day and steve israel all night, with the periscope to give us access to the outside world or give them access to us, to o'rourke. let's see.
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scott and mark tacano. so our members were very resourceful and that just turned us up to a tree that has fallin in the wilderness that no one ka hear. we would just be talking to ourselves in the chamber. 2.6 billion? what was the figure. contacts in one way or another. technology has enabled us to communicate in social media. all of this would not have been possible without the activism of the outside groups, whether it is every towns, whether it is moms against guns. of course, the brady campaign, the leader of all of us in this, gabby gifford's group, the list goes on and on. i was on the phone with 100 of the groups on last sunday in
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preparation. >> leader pelosi, she has been up all night, she and many of her democratic colleagues on the house side. they staged the sit-in. 26 some hours. she is speaking since they decided to put the sit-in to a halt a little while ago addressing how proud they are. they is saying the republicans cut the mikes, cut the cameras. they spoke up longer and louder. they now want to take their frustrations and what they want as far as keeping terrorists from getting guns, folks on these watch lists, they will take it home with them. we do have some breaking news from the house side to the senate side. you know there was this bipartisan bill led by republican senator susan collins that. has just come to a procedure vote on the senate side. we have that result for you. keeping terrorists from getting guns. how did that go down in the senate? the answer next. if you have allergy congestion muddling through your morning is nothing new. introducing rhinocort® allergy spray
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a by partisan gun bill was just short of the votes to go forward. let's go to senior political reporter, manu raju. explain what happened. >> this is a complex senate procedure. it was a procedural vote, brooke, that was trying to demonstrate how much support susan collins' compromised gun measure has. what we saw, 52 senators voted in favor of advancing this bill. now, the senate eventually needs to pass a bill out of its chamber is 60 votes.
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it fell 8 votes shy of the 60-vote threshold to get it out of the chamber. that essentially means her plan is not going anywhere. it could, of course, come back up for a vote at some point at a later date. what it demonstrates is that this effort to strike a compromise on the no-fly list to deny suspected terrorists the right to buy firearms on that no fly list. that proposal does not have the necessary support particularly from her own party. susan collins own party. she is a republican. to get this out of the senate chambers. right now, we are sort of at a stalemate. the senate is voting on an alternative voting plan right now that will also fail falling short of the 60 vote threshold. we are back to square one. >> what an emotional week on capitol hill. thank you so much. we will wait for some reaction. more on the fiery debate in a
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moment. let's go back to the breaking news out of baltimore. caesar goodson, the police van driver accused of taking freddie gray on a quote, unquote, rough ride after the 25-year-old was arrested last year. officer goodson faced charges including second-degree murder. prosecutors argued goodson intentionally caused gray's severe spinal injuries with reckless driving. the judge said the evidence could not prove that. with me baltimore sun reporter, justin fenton and civil rights attorney and former prosecutor, charles coleman jr. welcome to both of you. justin, first, quickly, on some color from the courtroom. were you inside. how did officer goodson react and any members of freddie gray's family? >> officer goodson placed his hand over his heart and looked up after the verdict was read. he had supporters in the courtroom. shook hands with them. two of them were fellow officers
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charged in the case. freddie gray's stepfather attended. we weren't able to talk to him. we expected the family attorney will be issuing a statement. >> the judge not buying the rough ride theory that he was intentionally jostled around, unbuckled in the back of their police van. why didn't the judge buy the prosecution's argument. they weren't able to back it up. one of the key pieces of evidence that they presented was a video of the van rolling through a stop sign and taking a wide turn. after watching the video, he wasn't sure the van didn't stop at that stop sign. he said they came well short of proving this was an intingsle act. more over, the lessor counts. the reckless endangerment, that he didn't take care of freddie gray, it is foreseeable what would happen if the state hadn't met their burden to prove those charges, this seems to have
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implications for a lot of the other cases. a lot of the allegations encompassed what other officers are charged with to a lessor degree. it remains to be seen how the state can proceed with the other cases. >> necessary a great point. we'll look back. charles, turning to you. to underscore people who are watching. of all six officers facing charges, this was the officer who faced the strongest charges possible. if anyone would be convicted on something, you would think it would be him. none of them. were you surprised? >> i was but i wasn't. you are absolutely correct. this was the home run that the prosecution needed to hit. this was the big case they needed a conviction on if they had any real chance of staining a conviction on the remaining two officers. these were the most serious charges against the officer they believed was most culpable about being responsible for freddie gray's death. it does not bode well for the
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remaining two officers. >> if you recall, when edward near was acquitted a couple of weeks ago, we sat and talked and i predicted we were likely to see other officers opt to have bench trials. that was sort of the blueprint that had been laid for securing an ac quital. >> a question of law, not a question of fact. when you have a question of fact, it is, did this person do it? are they guilty? when you are talking about a question of law, at a bench trial, it is just, the person has admitted, hey, this is what i did. it is not illegal. i'm not criminally liable for this. the judge has to make a determination as to what that is. judge williams found that he was not criminally liable. i think wa hat we are going to e again, two more bench trials. >> justin, you are there in baltimore. you saw everyone come out last year. now, it seems to me, i've been
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watching the pictures, pretty quiet. what's the reaction from folks who live in the city? >> there has been the sense since last year that what happened was a very unique phenomenon. it was building on what happened in other cities. to a certain extent, people expected this outcome. i polled my twitter followers. i have about 700 votes. 65% of the people thought he was going to be acquitted on all charges. he talked to people in the community. they felt that result was going to happen as well. the feeling that officers are not held accountable criminally. >> they were trying to say when these things happen, it is not merely a civil lawsuit but there should be criminal penalties. so far, judge williams has said they don't have the evidence to convict these officers. charles coleman, appreciate you swinging by. thank you very much. coming up, much more on several breaking stories today.
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a moment on the house floor that took america back to the sit-in in the civil rights issue. this was different. democrats led by john lewis occupied the house floor for some 26 hours demanding a vote on gun legislation. sit-in ended a short time ago. congressman lewis tweeted, from newtown to charleston, how long will it take for congress to act? it is a sentiment held bring many in the great city of
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charleston, south carolina, a year after a gunman slipped into a side door of mother emanuel ame church. i went back to the city and talked to the people left to pick up the piece. >> confirmed it is the suspect responsible for the shooting. >> white male, early 20s with a bowl hair cut. >> 30 minutes ago, he was arrested in shelby, north carolina. >> he was traveling with a glock semiautomatic handgun in the back seat. >> a 14-hour manhunt led to the capture of dylan ruth on the night of june 17th last year, he walked into a historically black church and pulled out a handgun and killed nine people as they closed their eyes in prayer. . >> reporter: you are the police
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chief. how did you all know who or what you were looking for for the next 14 hours? >> a very alert citizen who had watched the tv news was able to spot the car. >> reporter: police released this security camera footage of the gunman entering the side door of mother emanuel ame church eliciting help from the public to catch him on the run g. >> there were some anxious moments as we were waiting for confirmation that they actually had him in custody. anybody who would certainly commit this type of a crime, you never know what they were going to do. >> reporter: cnn was given rare access inside the bible study room where the shooter sat among a dozen church members for an hour before eventually targeting them in his rampage because of the color of their skin. i spoke exclusively to those left behind. >> reporter: there was no doubt in my mind that it was a hate crime. >> he was not in sane.
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he was a racist bigot. he came here because he hated black people and he wanted to cause a raise revolution. i spoke with him on his last day for office. >> i ran for mayor to build bridges between the african-american and white community. what was so tragic about the 17th of june was 120 miles away. >> reporter: if he were sitting here, is there anything you would ask of him or say to him? >> i would ask him why. >> reporter: you would? >> and ask him to pray for god's
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forgiveness. repent. god will forgive him. it doesn't mean you don't have to pay for your sins but he will forgive him. >> reporter: just before the madman ran out of the room, police say he stood over a witness and uttered a racial slur. he then told poly shepherd, he would let her live to tell the story of what happened that night. poly says, it wasn't roof but god who left her here. >> my memory, it comes and goes. >> reporter: of that night? >> anything is delayed. i can put clothes in the washing machine and forget them. two days later, i will remember. by that time, they will have to be washed all over again. >> reporter: what did you do with the clothes you wore that night? did you hold on to them? >> i have them. >> reporter: did you wash them? >> i washed them. >> why have you held on to them?
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>> i plan to wear them again for one thing. you have killed some of the most beautifulest people that i know. every fiber in my body hurts. >> reporter: federal prosecutors will seek the death penalty against roof and his trial set to begin in november. he has already faced the families of his victims in court a stunning scene just 48 hours after the massacre. >> you hurt me. you hurt a lot of people. god forgive you and i forgive you. >> in a few days, he stood up at a bond hearing and told that hateful man they forgave him.
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that was unscripted, unexpected. it was amazing. >> reporter: how long did it take you to forgive? >> two, three weeks. i sat home and i thought about all these people who lost family members. i didn't lose any family members. i've forg giviven him. you have to turn it loose. it affects you if you don't turn it loose. he has won. >> for some, forgiveness doesn't come easy. esther lance's mother was murdered that night. >> reporter: you talk about having little hate in your heart. do you still have the hate in your heart? >> before i can forgive him, i have to heal all of me. right now, i'm not healing. because you took my mama. >> reporter: roof has pleaded not guilty to 33 federal offenses xl
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offenses including a hate crime and firearms charges. >> i can't forgive him for this right now. >> reporter: do you think if it would come to the death penalty, would you want to see him put to death? >> yes, yes. before you refiretired, you wer nurse in that detention center where he is being held. had you not retired, you could be tending to this man. >> and i would. he would get the best care i could give him. >> reporter: how would you find the grace in your heart to do that? >> you can't fight evil with evil. love overcomes everything. >> reporter: what's your message to folks that are struggling with this. the rhetoric is so full of hate right now. >> if congress didn't do anything when they killed those children at sandy hook, they are not going to do anything now. what does anyone need a gun that
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shoots 10-18 rounds at one time. we need gun control. too many mass killings back to back. we can do better. this is america. >> reporter: at what point did you feel it? >> i am the community caretaker. that's my role. i accept that. i was just hoping that i wouldn't do anything that would make it worse. from the very beginning, it was very personal. i still feel it every day. speaking of congress, more on the breaking news in america's gun debate here in washington in a moment. first, top of the hour, thank you for being with me. i'm brooke baldwin. also breaking right now, a
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crushing blow to president obama. u.s. supreme court has blocked the white house's controversial immigration plan. justices in a 4-4 split deadlock, unable to rule on the legality of executive actions to shield as many as 4 million immigrants from possible deportation. this is a massive loss for the president of the united states who hoped to add this ambitious plan to his presidential legacy. a huge win for 26 states, most of whom with the republican governors, attorneys general who challenged this plan, they claim the president abused his executive power and the president reacted this way. >> we're going to have to make a decision about whether we are people that tolerate the hypocrisy of the system where the workers who pick our fruit or make our beds never have the chance to get right with the law or whether we are going to give them a chance just like our forebearers had a chance to take
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responsibility and give their kids a better future. we are going to have to decide whether we are the people that accept the cruelty of ripping children from their parents arms or whether we actually value families. >> let's go to the steps in front of the supreme court. ariane standing live. show me that single piece of paper which is so rare for you to get covering the supreme court. >> reporter: here it is. when the court goes 4-4, it dead locks. it blocks the lower court p opinion. the lower court opinion is upheld. it is as if the supreme court never took up the case. that's why the justices don't like to go 4-4. it is a waste of time. it is a waste of lawyers who come up here and argue. this shows one other thing that is interesting. the power of the district court
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judge in texas, the first one who was able to block these programs nationwide. he was upheld by the appeals court. that's a lot of power for that judge. the losers here could certainly try to come back to the supreme court. that hardly ever works. what this really does is tee up the election debate. >> speaking of the election, thank you for teeing me up for my next guest, ariane de vogue. dana bash, cnn political correspondent. we knew immigration was a major, major issue, specially in this election cycle. now, with this 4-4 split, it underscores the significance of voting, depending on which way the presidency goes, as far as the justice who is nominated. also, how does this effect both the dems and the republicans in terms of rallying the troops. >> look, you just hit it perfectly, brook, on the two big issues politically here. number one, we know very well that donald trump effectively
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used the anti-illegal immigration fervor in the republican base to help him effectively win the nomination. at this point, if you go to a rally or you watch a rally, it is interactive. he says, we are going to build a wall. who is going to build it? mexico. who is going to pay for it? they are. that is something that's been going on for some time. on the democratic side, however, there is no question that this is going to actually energize p some of their base in a way that it hasn't been as front and center in their minds in the public eye as it has been on the republican side. now, it is out there that very clear there is no way that this current president, president obama's executive plan is going
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to fly. it is not possible. it is even more imperative for those that want to try to make legal at least the 5 million or so children who came here through no fault of their own and others to allow them to stay legally. it is not going to happen during this presidency. the next president is going to be even more critical whomever that is. >> not to mention the congress. >> the supreme court, what ariane said. it is 4-4. there isn't a ninth justice. unless something happens dramatic, which i don't see it happening, gives a vote to the president's nominee. it is going to be the next president, absolutely crucial on immigration and a whole host of issues. this is a stark reminder of that. >> get out and vote. dana bash, thank you so much for perfectly outlining it all. this is personal for so many people, including my next guest,
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the face of this immigration decision takes many forms. one woman's story resonated when she posted this video. >> if i'm talking to you now, it is because my mother and brother were just taken by immigration. they just came to my house. they knocked on my door. my brother was outside p with the neighbor. they just came to us for my mom. they said they were not going to do anything to her. >> that woman joins me now. she is erika andiola. thank you for spending time with me today. as this is so personal for you, before we get to that and your tears and what happened with your mom and brother, first, your reaction to the supreme
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court 4-4 split? >> thank you for having me. it's definitely something that it is not what we wanted. it is something that definitely hurting millions of families across the country who are waiting for a positive decision but i think for us, once again, taking this challenge and continuing to move forward, the best way that we can. i think for us, right now, it is important to make sure we are protecting the families who are being left basically in limbo without dopa, without doka extended and making sure we are not reporting them at this point. we have a long way to go. we are going to have to work very hard to make sure we have the best person and in 2017, to continue the work on immigration. but also to make sure that we are not continuing the deportation machine that the president has already started in this term. it is definitely not what we wanted. we have to continue to fight.
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it is for our families and for people who are depending on p this type of decision. >> let's talk about your family. i know, erika, you are a dreamer. can you just tell me how you came to this country? did you come in with your mom and brother? >> yes. my mother was running away from domestic violence in mexico. we came in 1998, straight to arizona. they have been going through a lot of difficulties with immigration laws there. we came basically to get a better future. my mom has five children. there are five of us. the five of us have been working really hard here in the united states to also continue to help our own families. my brothers and sisters have a u.s.-citizens children. mixed status family with citizen children, with residents and
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doca residents. the reality is we have our own stories and we are going to continue to tell them. this is going to change the realities of our lives. >> i have interviewed a number of dreamers and heard their stories. it is emotional and you want to keep fighting. i have also talked to a lot of people in this country who say, yes, this is the land of opportunity and, yes, you can be here but you have to get in line and you have to go through the proper channeling legally to be here. what is unfair about that? >> there is no line, because it has been gridlocked. both parties have continued to fight with each other and continue to use it as a wedge issue to continue to win election frs one side and the other. at this point, what we need to make sure, we have to stop that
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and take care of the families that are here undocumented that are contributing so many millions of dollars to our economy. at the end of the day, we are a mixed status community where children cannot continue to have their parents being deported, because they are from here. they are from the united states. we can't just see them going back to mexico when it is not eve therein country. so for me, as an undocumented person, i'm here to be able to contribute. i work for a presidential campaign. i was given the opportunity to work. i was able to take it. bernie sanders offered me this opportunity. i am glad. there are so many more dreams that have been able to contribute back with the opportunity of having docca. today is a tough day for us. >> i flow it is tough. sdwrooirks a tough one. thank you for your response with
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the supreme court. thank you very much. best of luck to you. >> thank you for having me. also, breaking today, on capitol hill, the house democrats ending their sit-in over guns after a heated clash. moments ago, also, a bipartisan bill on guns on the senate side just found its fate as well. we have that for you also in baltimore. the officer facing the most serious charges in the freddie gray death found not guilty. we have the reasons. we have the reactions ahead for you. frightening moments inside of a movie theater today. what happened after a mass gunman stormed in and took hostages. i'm brooke baldwin. this is cnn's special live coverage. when a moment turns romantic why pause to take a pill? or stop to find a bathroom? cialis for daily use is approved to treat
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minutes ago werks heard from the speaker, nancy pelosi, who talked about ending the protest that lasted for more than 24 hours. the democrats staged a sit-in decrying the lack of action from lawmakers on gun control. days after the orlando massacre, the deadliest mass shooting in u.s. history, democrats failed to get what they wanted, an updown vote on guns. leader pelosi says this fight is far from over. >> we can not stop until we get a bill. this isn't about politics. it is not about elections. it is not about campaigns. it is about the safety of the american people. we want this off the table. we want the issues, the values there and hope the republicans could agree to that. >> the speaker of the house, paul ryan, called it a publicity
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stunt. speaker ryan ended the floor session, shut down the house cameras, turned off the microphones. democrats turned to social media to keep the immanliages up and running. >> they are not trying to get this done through regular order. instead, they are staging protests, trying to get on tv. they are sending out fundraising solicitations like this one. house democrats on the house floor, your contribution will go to the dccc. $15. if this is not a political stunt, then why are they trying to raise money off of this, off of a tragedy. >> let's go to capitol hill. senior political reporter, manu raju, we have that on the house side. also, some action on the senate side a little while ago. senator susan collins bipartisan
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measure which failed. what happened. >> there is a very significant vote in the senate. this is probably the closest nefrt a bipartisan compromise that we have seen so far dealing with issues of trying to prevent suspected terrorists on the no-fly list, which is part of the larger subset of people on the terrorist watch list. they are trying to hash a compromise to prevent people from getting a gun if they are denied, having an appeals process. it came under opposition from the right. the nra raising constitutional concerns over this measure. we saw it fell short of the 60 votes it would eventually need to pass the senate. this was essentially a test vote t was supposed to demonstrate whether or not there was that 60 vote super majority which is the key number to get in the senate to advance. it fell eight votes short. what does that mean? it means that proposal is stalled and not going to pass the senate this year?
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probably the one chance of a bipartisan compromise. this is not going to happen. one reason why democrats probably pulled the plug on the house floor saying, we're going to take this to the voters and not get a whole lot happening here on capitol hill. we will talk to a house dem. thank you for the report on the failure, lack of majority votes on the senate. let's go to congresswoman robin kelly, a democrat from illinois. welcome. >> thank you so much for having me. >> so the sit-in is over. 26 some hours. can you talk to me about who made the call to call it quits? >> well, i don't think it was exactly to call it quits. we just decided that we feel like we won. we got our point across. >> was it unanimous? >> oh, yeah. there were probably people that would stay on and on and on. we decided it was time now to
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take it back to our districts and work in our districts around this issue. when we come back on july 5th, we'll keep working. >> how was it a win since you all didn't get the vote you wanted. >> that's true. they didn't call the vote. i don't know. we really expected them to call the vote yesterday or this morning. we got the attention of the public. we felt like it is a win, because we got the opportunity to speak for bwhat the majority of the american people want. led me read this tweet from republican congressman, steve king, from iowa. he tweeted, i've had it with the gun grabbing democrats and their sit in anti-second amendment jihad. i'm going to go home and buy a new gun. congresswoman kelly, your response? >> it is almost laughable. for speaker ryan to say it was a publicity stunt, that's ridiculous and quite insulting actually. steve king, it is hard to pay
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attention to what he says there. there were nra members on the floor speaking with us, nra democrats that own guns na believe in this too. they tried to make it a second amendment argument. no one is trying to take your gun away if you have it legally. you are not going to harm anyone or yourself for that matter. >> since i have you as a member of congress, i know you have seen that. the supreme court, big blow to president obama's legacy. donald trump said that dealing with the supreme court is the biggest issue of this election. do you agree? >> well, it is a very, very important issue. whoever becomes president, even though they may only serve eight years, their pick will go on and the votes will go on for generations. it is extremely important. >> congresswoman robin kelly
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from illinois, thank you so much for your time. we will follow you with you all when you have gone home and come back on this very important issue. coming up next, not guilty. a second police officer charged in the death of freddie gray, acquitted on all counts. we will take you live to the city of baltimore and get reaction and find out what this means for the four officers still facing trial. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, and you're talking to your doctor about your medication... this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. this is humira helping me go further. humira works for many adults. it targets and helps to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms. doctors have been prescribing humira for over 13 years. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb.
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the bego where you goith you they have weight but are not heavy they teach they inspire and when they happen to you or maybe when you happen to them take these moments for all they're worth only in minnesota not guilty on all charges. that was the decision coming in today for baltimore police officer caesar goodson, the van driver accused of taking freddie gray on that so-called rough
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ride, accusations of jostling the van as he was in the back, not buckled in after the 25-year-old was arrested last year. officer goodson faced charges including second-degree murder. this is the most serious charge of any of the six officers charged. prosecutors argued he drove recklessly with the intent to harm freddie gray. the junl said their evidence they presented didn't prove that. gray's death thrust the city of baltimore into the national debate on police brutality for days and days of protest. cnn's mig guel marquez was insi the courtroom when that was read. also, constitutional law gloria marshall. take me inside that courtroom, miguel. paint the picture for me. >> reporter: very, very stressful in that courtroom. the guards coming out first off and saying, no moaning, no groaning when the judge makes his decision. let's just get through this day. the guards realizing how moment
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tuss this day was. feeling like this was the end of the road if they could not get a conviction on this case. i think people felt in that courtroom it would be very difficult to do it for any others. when marilyn mosby walked in, the courtroom sort of hushed. the judge very methodical, took him half an hour to get through it. reading through the evidence or the lack of evidence the prosecution didn't come up with on every single count. when he said, not guilty throughout it, caesar goodson sat there staring at the judge, his family crying as each not guilty was read. edwa edward niro, another police officer that stood up said yes. to hear it from the judge's mouth was something for them to hear. no family members from freddie
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gray's family were there. many saying at least light is being shined now on the police department here and there are changes being made. brooke? >> gloria, you were surprised. >> i was surprised but i've been shocked and surprised and disheartened so many times with these police cases that at this point what does it take? at the end of the day, freddie gray is dead. it wasn't a suicide. so now who is responsible for his death? is this going to be he was responsible for his own death. is there no one within the government responsible for this. i think that's the question many people out there are asking. how does this -- there are four more trials to go including one. there was the hung jury into their retrying. this was the guy who was the van driver who again as we underline faced the most serious charges. if he is found not guilty on all of the charges, bha dowhat does tell you about the following charges? >> it tells us we are in for an uphill battle that will probably be lost as well.
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you think about it. what is it that they need? do they need this van driver to have someone have a witness say, he said to me, let's give him this rough ride. let's beat him up so much in the back of the van that he is injured in a way he never gets out of this. that's what they are looking for. that's what they want. it is not enough to have this circumstantial evidence that he was driving and the wounds and other injuries were such that it came from that rough ride. they want some direct causation between the two. the jury, the judge felt he wasn't going to get that, didn't get it from the prosecutor's office. what really gets me is, would a jury have found differently? >> this was a bench trial, reminding everybody. this was up to the judge. no jury. that benefited these officers. >> in most of these cases, in 99% of the cases, they asked for these type of trials. they believe a jury is too emotional, that a jury may be biased. all of this, even though you have the voir dire and they ask all the questions, et cetera.
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what really concerns me is this. in a case in which there is a police officer and you have a defense who is accused of hurting a victim, they want a jury trial. when it comes to a police officer putting his or her liberty on the line because someone else has been injured, they want a bench trial. they only want the junl to decide. they feel the jury will not give them a fair shake. >> we will watch the final four. perhaps you will be surprised. we're in baltimore to the end. gloria brown martich shag marshu very much. we are more news regarding egyptair flight 804. a key piece of information about the plane's black box, the recorder will hold all the answers to what happened before the crash. new details on that next. and please, don't "do" paris. live in paris.
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breaking news now into the investigation of egyptair crash, cnn aviation correspondent, renee marsh, is joining us live from washington. they have the flight data recorder. they are not able to get the information off of it. is that correct? >> that's right, brooke. we are just getting this information in. a u.s. official with knowledge of the investigation tells cnn that those memory chips inside of the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder are so badly damaged. investigators in egypt have been unable to successfully download any data from either one of those recorders. so those recorders are now being sent to france.
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the french equivalent of the ntsb, the bea will now get their chance as trying to download that critical data on both of these recorders. as you know, these recorders are so critical in answering many questions that we still have about what went wrong on board egyptair flight 804. on the cockpit voice recorder, for example, you would hear conversations between the pilots, possibly the flight crew. you would hear if there was another voice, someone else in the cockpit. you would hear any other sounds that were happening, whether it was warning sounds and alarms from the aircraft or even an explosion. those are all the sorts of things that could be answered, could be detected on a cockpit voice recorder. then, you have the flight data recorder, which records thousands of parameters, everything from how fast the plane was going to the altitude. how the engines were performing. this is why these two recorders are so critical. everybody sort of holding their breath. they were so happy they had been
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found and in hopes of getting some answers about what brought down this plane. now, this news at this point that the egypt shuns at this point have not been able to get any data. if there is anyone that's able to download any data, it would be the bea. they are very good at dealing with these recorders. we also know the recorders are built to withstand extreme conditions. they can withstand up to 2000 degrees fahrenheit for up to an hour. so they are built to withstand it. they have the equipment. we expect that the french will have them in their hands in the next few days. >> renee, thank you. peter golds, cnn aviation analyst, i have seen one of the cockpit voice recorders. it is like a solid hunk of metal. it is like ft. knox. how are they not able to get
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something off of this? >> these are very armored devices. as renee said, they are designed to take a terrible beating but very clearly, this plane hit the surface of the water at an extreme rate of speed and the damage we just saw a few pictures of the recording, the damage was extensive. the french working with the manufacturer will be able to extract some of the data. we'll stay on it, hopefully to renee's point. it is the b.e.a. to get that information to give the families some answers. i want to go back to politics and the house democrat sit-in over gun control that ended a short time ago sitting on the floor of the house. they highlighted another issue that had nothing to do with mass
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shootings in it country. it shined a spotlight on who has the cameras on the house floor. they cut out c-span's live feed. they turned to social media broadcasting the images that protesting lawmakers were sending out from their smart phones, face timing us here at cnn. they have never done that before. these words from congressman john lewis sum it up people all over the world and around the world. social media told the story. >> social media told the story. >> great to talk to you all. susan, first of all, from what i know, you all have been trying to get your own cameras on the
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floor since the early '80s. talk to me about what happened with those cameras. >> well, we have wanted it. it was part of the original compromise that allowed cameras to come into the house in the first place. they had to be controlled by the speaker. every time there has been a change in leadership, we have appealed for c-span and journalist cameras to come in with no success. in the past, it was a done business. when the sessions were over. yesterday, social media changed all that and for the better, i think, for the public. >> brian stealltzer, let me piv to you. >> every app you have heard of and some you haven't were being used. some of them more effective than others. some of the video was imtour, what i would be doing if i was holding my camera up. the television cameras
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controlled by the government. they always have been, ever since the '80s as susan said. for the first time, there is an alternative. this is what the promise of the internet is all about. if you run into a road, if there is a roadblock or impediment, go around it by getting out your cell phone camera and beaming it through periscope. i was flying from amsterdam watching what was happening on the floor of the united states congress thanks to paris squoep. >> susan, what do you think of all of this? >> i would argue it was the raw nature of it that made it more compelling. if it was a highly polished production, people wouldn't be watching as much. you were getting an insider view of this. >> it was a legislature eye view. the c-span cameras are always top down, from the balcony top down. this was from the bottom up. you cou see the way the lawmakers were watching. >> let's remind everybody. it was 2008, the democrats this
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time who actually turned the lights out on republicans. take a listen. >> we have had almost 50 members talking on the floor to the american people. the speaker of this house has shut down the house, kept the cameras out, turned the lights off, turned the mikes off. we had a house full of people listening to a parade of members insisting we open this house back up. i was asking him when twitter was born. just launching in 2008. no one had heard of twitter or facebook when that happened. there was no way to stream live video from your phone when that happened. >> susan, final word. >> even earlier than this, back in 1994, newt gingrich and the republicans in the minority used television technology because they wanted their voice heard.
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it is a tactic of the minority. social media has added another to na. it gives a voice in the legislative process. that's what the system is all about. ryan steltzer, welcome back from france. in a matter of hours, we will know whether they have decided to stay or leave the european union. the vote has been dubbed british exit. brexit. >> brexit, sounds like a store? >> is it like a word scrambled thing. >> i thought it was a breath mint. >> a watch company? >> it is the british exit from the european union. >> do you think that's something you should care about? >> no. >> maybe we should. we'll take you live to london and explain why we should care, what's at stake and how it affect the rest of us.
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in one hour and ten minute, polls close on this historic vote in the united kingdom,
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facing a serious decision which may have consequences here in the united states and around the world. the question is this. should the uk stay or leave the european union? polls show that voters are split down the middle, the outcome too close to call at this point in time. key political players were seen headed there to the polls. david cameron voted to stay. president obama, by the way, on the record, would like the uk to stay. let me bring in nima elbagir. >> reporter: we're already seeing the financial impacts on global markets. this is really just the result of the fear that britain might exit and we're already seeing that turmoil. but even more kush crucially, we
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saw the disarray during the d l belgium attacks and the paris attacks and the shock waves sent across europe. what we were hearing consistently is we cannot rely on the europeans to effectively share information and britain has increasingly been a conduit, almost a highway between europe and the u.s. trying to smooth the path of that information, information that is needed so crucially. many who we have been speaking to, sources in the u.s. are saying without britain, imagine having to deal separately with what the british intelligent agencies are hearing and then what the european intelligent agencies are hearing and then trying to become an information clearing house to bring that all together given how much of a threat isis poses inside europe right now. there is very real concern about
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the security impact of a potential british exit and that's why you saw president obama -- it didn't do much for his popularity here in the uk but that's why you saw him making a very blunt statement about where he would like the british voters to fall on this issue. >> he did. polls closing in one hour, your time there in london. nima, thank you. the whole world is watching the brexit. thanks. next, the show of determination. the owner of the pulse nightclub planning a party to help its employees and the victims in the healing process. we'll speak live to the entertainment director, next. ♪ ♪ ♪
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when shots rang out at the pulse nightclub, the owner of pulse nightclub is hosting a latin street party two miles down the road. let me bring in someone deeply involved in the community there. she is blue star, the former entertainment director at pulse who knows a number of the victims.
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blue, thank you very much. it was this time last week i was standing next to you and now the road has opened up. i see the nightclub and memorial growing over your right shoulder. as we look at some of the photos, what are you hoping to accomplish? >> i think we are trying to find our best way to move on. now that orange avenue has opened up, it's becoming a bit more apparent that our process is starting to move forward. again, like you were saying, with things that we are doing tonight, with the latin night street party, we are trying to move forward. it's not necessarily moving on. we're just trying to get back in the groove of some things and just trying to find a sense of normalcy. it's interesting to see people are paying their respects to
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pulse. it was quite amazing when i got off of work because i ended up running into people that i knew and we all hugged each other. i think the most important things that i saw last night was an off-duty police officer just kind of manning the vigil and taking care of all of the candles that were there. i think that that kind of speaks volumes for the community and itself because he really didn't have to do that. but he actually made sure that each candle stayed lit while i was there and i'm fairly certain he went on and did that throughout the night. >> just saw the photo of that officer. i saw your photos. it struck me as well. opd doing work there as well. tell me, blue, about this latin party tonight, the owner of pulse making sure that the employees who are out of jobs are not forgotten. absolutely. so many people have been affected.
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the staff doesn't have a place to work and so i think that this is a beautiful way of the owners kind of taking charge and saying, we're going to move forward and we're still going to respect our latin community. so tonight is for you guys. and tonight is to show how strong that we are and let the community embrace us and move forward together as one strong unit, one orlando strong unit. and we are going to dance, as i don't know if you've seen, but orlando has been dancing our way through the healing process which i think is awesome so we're going to dance and listen and eat food and be together. it's a wonderful tribute that they are doing and i think it is very brave. they are certainly my heroes with the way they have handled all of this and i know tonight is going to be no different. >> you are a leader in that community. keep doing what you are doing, blue star, live in orlando. thank you so much. i know the pulse nightclub owner will be up here in new york for pride marching with the throngs
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of people here in downtown manhattan. blue, thank you very much. and thank you for being here with me on this thursday afternoon. let's go to washington now. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. thanks, brooke. they were sitting down to take a stand, so what happened? where did they go? "the lead" starts right now. breaking news after a chaotic 25-hour protest. democrats and their sit-in on the floor of the u.s. house of representatives. they did not get the vote they were demanding. did they get anything at all? with his campaign seemingly in danger of coming apart at the seams, donald trump heads overseas to solidify his foreign policy credentials? no, not really. he's there to open up a golf course. today we'll ask his former sparring per