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now you can watch nbc's coverage of the rio olympic games live at home or on the go. >> thank you very much for joining us. >> we just learned that a federal judge has denied a motion to dismiss the class action lawsuit against trump university and also tonight, khizr khan joins us and donald trump saying he has no regrets
bullpen anything he has said about the khan family and giving critics who say he has thin skin and more ammunition. speaking to the washington post he declined to endorse gop candidate john mccain or paul ryan who has criticized him saying, quote, i like paul, but these are horrible times for our country and we need very strong leadership and we need very, very strong leadership and i'm just not quite there. if that wording sounds familiar to you, you're right. speaker ryan once said the same about donald trump. >> i'm just not ready to do that at this point. i'm not there right now. >> paul ryan spokesman this evening said the speaker has never sought trump's endorsement. as for senator mccain whom he mocked you'll recall for being taken prisoner by the north vietnamese trump said he hasn't been good enough for veterans. there is a lot to impact. joining us, phillip rutger who
wrote for "the washington post. " a lot of focus on the words he used for paul ryan. i'm not quite there yet, obviously very similar to what ryan said about trump in may. did trump give you any indication when he would be making up his mind or if he would? it's hard not to see this as anything other than a warning shot on ryan. >> i saw it as just that, a warning shot. he did not indicate whether he would make an endorsement at all before next tuesday's primary and it's a remarkable development in the republican party just two weeks ago. ryan was on stage at the convention with trump, endorsing trump and trying to show party unity and here we have the presidential nominee refusing to back the top elected official in the party in his primary. >> and john mccain, as well and this is such an extraordinary situation, phil and can you recall when the republican presidential nominee has declined to endorse both the republican speaker of the house and a prominent u.s. senator who was himself the party's nominee just eight years ago? >> i don't know that this has ever happened, but this is a different kind of candidate and a different kind of campaign year and donald trump made it very clear in my interview with
him that he sees himself as the head of the republican party and that he's other republican leaders like paul ryan and john mccain that when they criticize him they need to get in line and support him. he talked about kelly aillot being disloyal and walk. all three of of the republicans criticized trump over his comments about the khan family over the weekend and i see this as trump getting retribution. >> well, is it -- here's a conspiracy theory some people are throwing out. is it possible donald trump did this in order to get the conversation to be about this as opposed to be about the khans? >> well, if that was his goal it worked because that's what we're talking about here tonight and it's been all over the news all afternoon. you know, i don't know if this was a deliberate strategy. he did not bring this up voluntarily. i asked him about speaker ryan and the endorsement in the interview and he was responding to me. >> trump's national spokeswoman was on with wolf blitzer arguing there was no story that trump was answering your questions and
he wasn't attacking anyone and he is the republican presidential nominee and he knows what he says about paul ryan and john mccain would have an impact, i would assume. >> i believe he used that similar language from the jake tapper interview a couple of months ago. he knew what he was doing and he repeated it several times over the course of the interview with me and he and his aides signaled that they knew this would be a news story so there's something here. >> but just to be clear, as you said, this is something you asked him about. this wasn't like he intentionally brought up or he said before the interview oh, by the way, i want to talk about paul ryan. >> that's correct. last night donald trump tweeted something complimentary of paul ryan's opponent and it led to speculation that he was trying to lift up the primary opponent and i asked him about that and i asked him to clarify what he meant by that tweet and whether he would endorse ryan and you see what he said. >> stay with us.
we want to fwling poot rick heely and cnn political analyst and dana bash and molly ball, political writer for "the atlantic" >> dana, i know you've been reaching out to your gop sources, does anyone think this isn't personal? because trump's spokeswoman says donald trump is not getting involved in the republican primaries. >> no. i have not found anyone who doesn't think this isn't personal and i've heard her say and she is right that there are times when republican leaders and donald trump is the, you know, one of the leaders if not the leader of the republican party now because he is the presidential nominee. and they don't get involved with primaries, but this is different. it is different for a number of reasons and number one is because when it is the speaker of the house, it is kind of expected and tradition for other like-minded leaders to get behind him and not the challenger from the right, but also as i was reminded by a senior republican here in washington a couple of hours ago, anderson, paul ryan
nominated mike pence, trump's vice predential running mate at the convention. he put mike pence's name into the nomination, you know, making it formal. so it's not as though he's kind ef of a stranger here, i mean, he is somebody who has clearly thought to do what he could, somewhat reluctantly at times, but did what he could to help the ticket and you know, there's no question that there is a personal animosity there because of his delay in and also, more importantly, as you were talking about with philip the fact that ryan was critical about trump and about the khan family. >> paul ryan has now endorsed donald trump. >> john mccain saying he is supporting trump and these are not rank and file republicans running some obscure race. >> no, but i remember interviewing donald trump the day before his ryan meeting in june and that line by ryan, i'm still not there yet, it was galling to trump and it still
struck in his throat and i remember that from the interview just how much he was still feeling it that clearly, this is a guy who takes slights and he loves the counter punch and one of the things from the interview and the point that he made is donald trump is the leader of the party right now, but it's feeling more and more like it's the tea party. he's sort of the leader of that's weighing on the republican party and he's sort of saying i am not interested in uniting and making peace and galvanizing sort of the broad republican party as we know it at that convention and even now, so much of the energy around this guy is about sort of saying okay, i'm the head of the wing of the tea party of the republican party and the rest of you are kind of on your own if you're not with me. >> molly, it's obviously another example of how trump is bucking traditional republican politics and yet he's done very well so far with that so why would anyone think this would cause him a problem?
>> i think from day one of this campaign donald trump has been running against the republican party and the republican party that used to be thought that would stop once he became the nominee and they thought this was a two-way street that if they were loyal to him he would be loyal to them. what they didn't realize is that trump believes he's made a new party and he's never thought that he needed them and while this is personal and this is about slights to him, i really think we ought to take seriously the fact that he does think he has up ended this institution for the better and he does think it's a new party now and this is in a way ideological and making the republican party stand for things he wants it to stand for and if people don't get in line with him he's not going to meet them that way. >> did he know he was speaking to "the washington post"? i thought he wasn't speaking to the washington post anymore. >> he did. it was a lengthy interview on the record. we are banned from covering his events and that includes me and my colleagues, but he does still talk to us as do his aides.
>> were any advisers with him when he gave the interview? i know -- i know you said that some of his folks said they knew this would be a story and did anyone in the circle seem rattled or concerned? >> that was not apparent during the interview. nobody interrupted him or, you know, urged him to try to clarify his remarks or anything of that sort. >> dana, where does this go from here? it was interesting how quickly ryan's folks put out a statement saying we didn't ask for his endorsement, but i mean, would anyone -- would ryan or mccain or anyone old actually rescind their support of trump? that's something that president obama is urging republicans to do. >> which is the quickest way for them not to do it, by the way. >> yes. >> which may be the point, right. which is a different conversation. look, i think that the fact that paul ryan threw his campaign spokesman suggests that ryan is
going to act the way paul ryan tends to act which is try to kind of keep his head down and hope that this blows over and not get into a tit for tat between the house speaker and the republican nominee for president, that that doesn't serve anybody well because by all accounts he should be doing okay in his primary next week so his electoral future is probably not in real peril. john mccain is a different story. he has a primary at the end of the month and a tough reelection race against a democrat and already, anderson, his democratic opponent assuming he wins this primary is out saying, remember, john mccain has said that he would support the nominee 49 times or whatever it is. so the democrats are trying very hard to tie john mccain and kelly aillot who is also in a tough campaign in new hampshire to donald trump. it's a tougher position for somebody like mccain. >> this is part of what donald trump does, right?
during the primary, so much of his strategy was about sort of swagger and cowing his republican rivals, sort of into submission. he's almost sort of daring mccain and ryan almost to take president obama's side on this and somehow sort of move off of them. the question, though, for the republicans is what happens to all of these kind of down-ballot candidates who have looked to ryan as the guy to give them signals about donald trump when even that relationship seems to be fraying. >> we also saw that governor pence has a meeting today with john mccain. i believe that's taken place and to be a fly on the wall of that meeting must have been fascinating and we'll pick up after the break with this panel and if donald trump is unfit to be president as well as his call to republicans, in his words, dump trump and joining us shortly is khizr khan on trump's latest remarks on him and his motivation as trump sees it for
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and former rnc spokesman. >> kevin, let me start with you, katrina pearson, the national spokesperson for trump said this was not an attack on ryan or mccain. you were the communications adviser to ryan when he was v.p. nominee in 2012. is that how you interpret this? as an attack? >> i think attack is strong. i think paul ryan will win either way and whether or not the party nominee who said he would endorse, and wants to return the favor, i don't think it will matter. >> why do you think he's doing it? why do you think he said it? >> i think it's pretty clear that he was peeved with paul ryan's reluctance. he threw him back the same word asks he's being cute with it and obviously, this will not matter for paul ryan's primary reelection. i think he'll be just fine. >> kaley, is it just a personal thing? is it him declaring war on the republican establishment? >> i think it is partly personal and declaring war on the republican establishment and you
look at poll by poll and you saw not only anger and voters felt betrayed by the republican party and people like paul ryan who went to washington and supported amnesty and cap and trade. voters feel betrayed by these individuals and donald trump is not willing to play party politics and play the washington elite game. and just emdors people for the sake of it. >> donald trump did talk about uniting the republican party. this is not really the way to do that, is it? >> well, uniting the republican party which consists of the people of the republican party. donald trump set records this year. 14 million people voted for donald trump and the republican party brought out a turn out there are so many new voters that have gotten off their couch and now they're involved and that's who he's speaking to and he has to continue speaking to those voters. that is the part of america that is disenchanted --
>> >> is this the way to bring in new voters. >> absolutely it is >> it's not a new way, then you shouldn't have had him chair your own convention and nominate your vice president candidate. this is simply donald trump getting in his own way, frankly. he should be talking about hillary clinton, and he should be talking about low gdp numbers and he should not be picking these fights. part of me thinks it's a way of him saying that paul ryan is in on this rigged system he's imagining should he not win in november. he's all over the place and he's a train wreck and he has to get back on track. >> if i may, this is the problem, the establishment and those who are consultants that are involved in this process. they think things are supposed to go as they always go and we know from day one of this primary process into this general election, donald trump has turned everything upside down. >> isn't the number one priority right now getting elected president of the united states? >> correct. >> is this really helpful in the path? >> there are a number of issues that donald trump stands for that the republican establishment hasn't jumped onboard yet and we need to do
better with our trade policy >> you've been part of the establishment as a chairman. you know that certain things need to happen in order to win an election and that's what he should be focusing on, not himself and not petty matters. all he has to do is make this a referendum if he would win. >> susan, it would be completely disingenuous if he full-throated endorsed paul ryan and mccain any other politician would donald trump ran against these players donald trump lifted up the will of the people and he ran against the class that defies ideological lines and defies republicans. >> kaley, to susan's point, he did have paul ryan chair the convention, not only open it up, but also introduce mike pence and nominate mike pence. >> who is also part of the establishment. he has set himself up. don't say no. if you want to say paul ryan is a part of the establishment, he was the host of the convention and chairman of the convention, donald trump is just taking a little petty revenge because he's a petty person most of the time when it comes to donald trump. that's all it is.
>> it's about business here. >> business of what? >> president obama has said to other republicans that they should essentially dump donald trump. doesn't that paint them into a corner? if they then follow through on what he says then they're following obama which is the last thing republicans want. >> pretty skillful political move by the president. >> you think it was intentional? >> oh, absolutely. we know that obama loves this time of year. he's being political, purely political. he's daring leaders of the republican party to ditch trump and then he's, you know, he's going to be able to -- he's trying to fuse those leaders even closer to donald trump and you know, by daring them to unendorse makes it tougher for them to do that and that's what he did today. >> susan, you agree with that? >> i do because what the president has done basically is said we are not going to attack the republicans. republicans aren't bad. donald trump is bad. he's helping hillary clinton
make this a referendum on donald trump and if it is a referendum on donald trump, hillary clinton will win and if it's a referendum on hillary clinton, donald trump will win. >> this is very simple. donald trump is a warrior for the people, plain and simple. >> that's nice, but i would think he would want to win. >> you expect him to play by the political playbook and do the disingenuous thing and the scripted lines. the poll tested words, the tested groups. >> that's laughable. >> he is not that. donald trump is real. >> i'm sorry, you can't say that. like i said, he's gone down and addressed the house. he's gone down and addressed the senate republicans and again, look at his convention and look who had them, and they had the political establishment. donald trump should be focused on winning. >> donald trump likes and respects paul ryan. no question about it, but he is a messenger of change. he is a messenger that on behalf of the people there are
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welcome back. we just got word of it at the top of the broadcast, gonzalo curiel denying to summarily dismiss the class action lawsuit in connection with trump university. our drew griffin has been on the story from the early days of it. so what does this ruling today mean and will donald trump be called to testify? >> well, it's two separate rulings. number one, it's a ruling against trump's lawyers. they wanted the case thrown out, obviously. the case is not being thrown out. judge curiel is positioning this for trial, a trial that should take place late november. that would be after the election, and donald trump most likely, if it goes to trial, anderson, will be part of the case in terms of being brought on the witness stand. it is all about whether or not he lied or did not lie to his
potential students at trump university. the other ruling, the judge ruled on in favor of trump and his lawyers was that the video depositions, the depositions that donald trump has already given under oath, those videos will not be released. cnn was a party to those asking that they be released in the greater public interest because we wanted to see donald trump on the witness stand, but keep in those transcripts, the printed transcripts have been released and we have reported on those on your show, anderson. >> bad news for donald trump that the case goes on, good news for him that the video because that's something that the trump attorneys did not want released the videos of donald trump being diposed. >> that's right. we wanted to see them for news purposes, but the attorneys for trump argued listen, those would be cut and pasted and turned into political ads.
>> right. >> which they would have been, anderson, because they were damning depositions in my opinion after i read them, and the judge said listen, the transcripts are out there. the video is irrelevant to this case being released and it would potentially create a problem sitting an impartial jury. >> drew griffin. i want to get our political reporter's take on all of this. joining us again is patrick healy, dana bash, and maggie -- molly ball. >> it could give trump something new to criticize, i suppose, in the way that the system is somehow unfair to him or the judge is unfair which is an argument he's embraced in the past. >> it is. it is an argument that has one of the many arguments that has republicans kind of with their heads between their legs with the paper bag trying to breathe heavily because they just think it's one distraction after another. this is one of those like we talked in the last discussion about whether the paul ryan situation was personal. we know that this is personal. i mean, this is as personal as it gets and it's about donald
trump's name and business and reputation and that is why he lashed out at this judge in a way that he went too far according to almost all republicans, but this is something that if it keeps him going will be from the perspective from a lot of republicans, and i talked to yet another distraction. >> i want to ask you about something that we were talking about with the republican roundtable about what they said about donald trump. let's play that sound. >> think the republican nominee is unfit to serve as president. i said that last week, and he keeps on proving it. the notion that he would attack a gold-star family that had made such extraordinary sacrifices on
behalf of our country, and the fact that he doesn't appear to have basic knowledge around critical issues in europe, in the middle east, in asia means that he's woefully unprepared to do this job. >> there was a tweet, patrick, earlier today by our colleague ryan lizzo who is suggesting, perhaps or asking if by telling republicans our suggesting to r republicans to unendorse donald trump -- >> they don't want to seem like they're cow towing president obama. the bigger issue for donald trump is he has all of this incoming fire from president obama and hillary clinton and he had warren buffett and he's got the khans, and mr. khan coming
up on your show shortly and then john mccain, so much sort of piling on and this is a guy, donald trump, who has had opportunities in the last 48 hours to go back at hillary clinton in terms of secrecy in terms of the tax issues and to push back on that and certainly around the e-mail server and the interview on sunday, and he's still playing defense. this is yet another day where he's got all of this incoming fire and nothing is going out and nothing is breaking through for him. >> molly, to that point, the conventional wisdom is the more president obama goes after trump and the more donald trump gets a boost and in the general election it's a much different equation and you had a number of people from the dnc basically resigning and being forced to resign in the wake of the wikileaks attack and it gets buried in all of this other trump stuff. >> absolutely. trump is so busy creating new controversies and fighting with everybody except the democrats
that all of that stuff sort of gets swept under the rug and it's tremendously frustrating for the republican leaders and the republican establishment to see this happening and to see him seeming not to be able to control himself and going back to the trump university lawsuit and that's what seems to be the danger here and every time something like this comes up that provokes him on a personal level and implicates his personal brand, he doesn't seem able to restrain himself and hold back from, you know, criticizing the judge as he did before. even if he weren't criticizing the judge the trump university lawsuit is a big issue for what it says about his business practices, and what it says about his career before he entered politics. >> if i may, was there another statement that president obama made at that press conference which was a big political gift to donald trump and one that so far he hasn't picked up and opened up which is president obama talked again about tpp, about the trade plan, the trade
pact that he pushed and is continuing to push which hillary clinton supported sort of when she was secretary of state. she pushed for it and then as a candidate she said it changed and she doesn't support it because it is such a potent issue for donald trump and his kind of populist message. that should have been a no-brainer for him to get out there and say, you see? if we elect hillary clinton she will do just what president obama will do because it will be a third term. he didn't do that so far and that is the kind of thing that makes republicans pull their hair out because that is the more winning message as opposed to making headlines picking at republicans. >> it's also fascinating, patrick, how the clinton folks are responding to all of this essentially, there's radio silence. she might as well be in the witness protection program for all she's been seen in the last day or so. i assume the strategy is just step back, like don't kick a person when they're down and
just step back and let donald trump just kind of wind himself up into, you know, more controversy. >> unforced error after unforced error. let him do the damage to himself. she's out west raising money. >> she was at a funeral today also. >> she was at a funeral today and she's heading out west again, and she's doing what two nominees are usually doing the week after conventions which is starting to look at how do you expand your voter group? how do you not only hold on to your base, but start attracting a larger number of voters and that's what you saw with her going to nebraska and not having to play defense on things like the dnc e-mails whereas donald trump, who is -- what undecided voters is he persuading by saying maybe i'm not going to vote for paul ryan, you know? maybe i'm not going to endorse him. how is he growing that base? not happening. >> again on sunday she gave that interview to chris wallace on fox in which, you know, the statement she said about the director comey to the fbi and
the the washington post said four pinocchi onk snk that what she said was incorrect and that's something donald trump could have been running with and again -- >> the whole idea in terms of what a normal republican candidate would go with a normal republican nominee would have had a line of attacks, of surrogates who were going out there to press the message of commercials that were out quickly in swing states. you haven't had any of that. >> i want to thank everybody on the reporter roundtable and a reminder, join us tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. eastern and a second town hall with the libertarian ticket and gary johnson and william weld. just ahead tonight, khizr khan who spoke out against donald trump at the democratic convention and lit the spark burning through the trump campaign and his thoughts on trump's latest remarks. donald trump made a new statement about why he's now claiming mr. khan spoke out against him. we'll play that for you and
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he has no regrets about anything he's said or done in the wake of khizr and guzalan khan, and he insinuated that she was silent because of her husband or faith or both. and he did lead to that implication and then he conceded that their fallen son was a hero in a written statement but and complained that he was viciously attacked and was therefore justified in his parlance, counter punching. speaking in an ohio abc affiliate he seemed to take it suggesting that mr. khan sympathized with radical islamists who tried to enter the united states. >> it's a very big subject for me and when you have radical islamic terrorists probably all over the place, we're allowing them to come in by the thousands and thousands, and i think that's what bothered mr. khan more than anything else.
>> trump has drawn condemnation from chris christie and still refuses to back down and joining us is khizr khan and thank you for being with us and i'm sorry it's under these circumstances. >> what is your reaction to what we just heard donald trump say in an interview from yesterday that that the real reason you're angry, perhaps, is because of his policy is to keep thousands of terrorists from coming into the country? >> well, i -- this is typical donald trump. he does not comprehend what is coming out of his mouth, what is he saying, yet he continues to say this. he has implied that somehow i have any sympathies to people coming into this country. i have, i want the strongest security measures taken before anybody enters this country, i
support. his folks are implying that i have read it, people have e-mailed it to me that somehow on my work website i had a section of immigration law. i practice commercial civil litigation. in there, there is a small section of immigration law. i have not had any client in all these years and i have not entertainment and nobody would find me suitable, but the implication on donald trump's spot is somehow i am bringing or i'm supporting and i am upset because of his -- this is the -- >> there was a right-wing media reporting that you had taken down your work web page that on it you have a business which essentially allows wealthy people from the middle east to essentially buy visas legally, but that it's a visa program. you're saying that's not your business. >> that is not my business. i tried to see if i could have a
client or two, the rich people, the rich men -- businessmen that want to come in they don't come to khizr khan. they go to large companies, large law firms and immigration specialists and come through there, but let me point out to his surrogates, as well, you saw an example of the heartlessness lack of empathy again today. i hope, i hope america is listening and watching. a man comes to him, a veteran, so kindly and what a gracious man, hands him his purple heart. what he does? he receives it, thanks him, puts it in his pocket and later on pulls it out. i got this purple heart, so easy. i always wanted one.
donald trump, you had the time. you did not serve. you know what you should have done and listen to me, and i want his surrogates to listen to me. you should have pinned that back to that veteran's chest and should have hugged him and thanked him! that is the -- i'm sorry i'm shouting. i'm just so upset at this lack of empathy. lack of common sense. he wants to be the leader, commander in chief of this united states of america? that is the thoughtfulness? he should have put that purple heart back if he would have been sensible, he would have known what it takes to earn that purple heart. that purple heart belongs to that person. that was the most gracious person that came and handed him the purple heart. he takes it in his pocket and says very easy, i always wanted one. well, you had your chance. you escaped.
you dodged the draft, and now you want an easy purple heart in your pocket. you should have pinned it back even now, call that man. i want his surrogates to call that man, thank him and put that purple heart back on that person's chest. >> earlier today donald trump's son, eric trump was asked whether his father would be willing to apologize to you and i want to play that exchange that took place. >> would your father be willing to apologize and move on? >> i think that's a great question for him and i think he has by calling them a hero. in terms of the one question, whether he's made a sacrifice. i think he has. that's not the ultimate sacrifice and dying to protect the three of us, there's no question about it. >> we all know donald trump initially in his response to george stephanopoulos did not say your son was a hero in any way and later on they put out a
printed statement that he said that and subsequently they've been saying that, do you consider donald trump putting it out in a printed statement that that it is an apology? >> i don't need any apology and my family does not need any apology. an apology is not what i am looking for. it is the empathy of his -- his thinking and his thinking, the emptiness, the void. his thinking is totally void of empathy. so apologies aren't needed. his saying my son is hero or not, that doesn't change anything. today someone sent me the pictures of his grave site. amazing, amazing outpouring of love and respect and flowers and people lined up there to pay respects and all that. that is more than enough for me. that is not going to come from donald trump or his surrogates. to them i say donald trump, do
you have any sense of decency? you have not shown -- you have maligned people. you have maligned minorities and you have disrespected women. you have disrespected judges. i will continue to remind you what your behavior for the whole year has been. i am not going to continue to appear on televisions. it is really disturbing because it is emotionally disturbing. it is family wise disturbing, but i wanted to say this today that this person, it is not up to him and it is not up to his surrogates and they will not give him the moral direction. they will continue to pose questions so that he could continue to make statements. i ask the leadership of the republican party, i ask them to disown this person.
totally, totally, totally withdraw their support, and i ask the folks that are voting for him that this will make a burden on their conscious when the time comes to vote. >> mr. khan, if you will stay with us. we will take a short break. when we come back, perhaps the only non-controversial aspect of this whole affair and namely everything we've learned about your son and particularly from his friends and former comrades and brothers and sisters at arms and i want to talk a little bit about your son so more americans can know him. we'll take a short break. we'll be right back. try claris. new, from the makers of claritin. and nothing is more effective at relieving your sneezing, runny nose and nasal congestion. return to the world. try clarispray today. when you hit 300,000 miles. or here, when you walked away without a scratch. maybe it was the day you realized your baby was not a baby anymore.
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for all we've been talking about tonight about donald trump and veterans, donald trump and gold-star parents, donald trump and the khan family, it's worth taking a moment and a few moments more to remember this. not everything to do with donald trump is about donald trump or about politics. this entire episode may reveal something about the republican nominee or state of politics today or many other things depending on your point of view. for a moment, though, perhaps a few moments more, we want to focus instead of an american hero. "360's" randi kaye reports. >> reporter: june 2004. american soldiers are being targeted in iraq.
army captain humayun khan was on patrol overseeing routine vehicle inspection by his unit when it happened. a taxi plowed through the gates of his base. khan yelled to the others to hit the dirt but he faced the danger head-on, walking toward the taxi, signaling it to stop. just ten steps later, the driver detonated 200 pounds of explosives killing captain khan instantly. he was just 27. sergeant lacey walker ran to the scene. >> it's horrible, it was disgusting to fathom. i know it was devastating for anyone who had ever even shaken his hand. >> reporter: to his unit and those who knew him, khan was down to earth, kind and generous. >> he always kept a can of tuna on the shelf, a loaf of bread on top of the shelf, a jar of mayonnaise and a jar of pickle relish in his drawer and if we had to work through lunch, he'd always make us sandwiches.
>> reporter: once when sergeant walker came under heavy fire, captain khan risked his own life to help her. >> captain khan drove out in his humvee and parked it like an "l" with my humvee and stayed beside me while i hid behind a basket. he kept reassuring me that it's going to be okay. >> reporter: humayun khan's story began long before that terrible day in iraq. he was born in the united arab emirates to pakistani parents. his family moved to the united states when he was just a toddler. he and his two brothers were raised in maryland. growing up, his father says he loved to read books about thomas jefferson telling the "washington post" years ago that his son's love for the man who authored the declaration of independence came from frequent visits to the jefferson memorial in washington, d.c., as a child. his son would often read the founding fathers' famous quotations carved in the memorial stone. in his free time during high
school, khan taught disabled children to swim. later he enrolled in the rotc program at the university of virginia. he graduated in 2000 with a degree in psychology. his family says he wanted to be a military lawyer and joined the army first to pay for law school. somewhere along the way, he learned incredible courage. it was that courage that drove him to save so many others. preventing that bomb-laden taxi from getting any closer to the mess hall at his base where hundreds of soldiers were eating breakfast. a true war hero. posthumously awarded the bronze star and the purple heart. >> of course, he's a hero. he paid the ultimate sacrifice as everyone says, but he was a hero long before he died. >> reporter: on captain humayun khan's headstone at arlington cemetery, the awards are noted on display for a steady stream of visitors who come to honor a man who loved what america stands for and died helping
preserve it. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> and joining us once again is khizr khan. we just learned a little bit more about your son. really particular powerful i think to hear from those he served with. what else do you want people to know about him? was he always interested in joining the military? >> not always, but since he came to university of virginia, he began to see the difference of character and discipline and lifestyle of the rotc cadets and he was very, very much impressed with that. i would go to visit him and we would talk about this, that he would like to join rotc because that is -- he feels in his mental when he's around them, when he is with them and that was somehow it had clicked with his character, with his habits.
that is how he joined. >> it was so powerful, i thought, to hear from sergeant walker in that piece who said that your son was the most incredible man to work for, a leader who communicated what he wanted and that he died so honorably. when you hear people who served with him say those things, it's got to -- i mean, the grief obviously will never go away. it's got to make you stand that much taller. >> we are very proud of the 27 years that we had with him. he came to united states 2 years old. he was educated here. brought up here. learned all the wonderful characteristics in this country. he was a strong believer of public service, and that was his mantra. and it heartens us the way this nation continues to pay tribute
to this young son. we were so honored earlier this month, a regiment was named after captain humayun khan. and we were invited to sit there. believe me, when the regiment pass in front of our eyes, every man in that regiment looked like humayun. he was kindest person. another tribute, a line that comes to mind, somebody that had worked with him, what his colleague said that, these trainings, these courses, teaches to prepare leaders. humayun was born leader. a person with love, care, and empathy.
that is why i keep repeating that if a soldier, if a junior officer like humayun can have that much empathy for the people he was responsible, where is that empathy in the candidate of republican party? we don't see that. example after example. humayun was the best of this country as secretary clinton said in her tribute to humayun, that he was the best of america. >> mr. khan, i want to continue the conversation. we're going to take a short break. we'll be right back at the top of the hour. also the rest of the night's breaking news. no shortage of it. we'll be right back.