tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN August 4, 2016 10:00pm-11:01pm PDT
good evening. top of the hour, in the middle of a big night in presidential politics. hillary clinton again made a factually challenged claim about the fbi director and her e-mails. donald trump spoke again about a video of an american cash payment to iran, a video that simply does not exist. and president obama celebrated his 55th birthday the way most people do, in a press room at the pentagon answering questions about isis, iran, donald trump and more. here's a sample. >> we announced these payments in january. many months ago.
there wasn't a secret. we announced them to all of you. josh did a briefing on them. this wasn't some nefarious deal. we do not pay ransom for hostages. we've got a number of americans being held all around the world and i meet with their families, and it is heartbreaking. and we have stood up an entire section of interagency experts who devote all their time to working with these families to get these americans out. but those families know that we have a policy that we don't pay ransom, and the notion that we would somehow start now in this high profile way and announce it to the world, even as we're looking into the faces of other
hostage -- families whose loved ones are being held hostage, and say to them that we don't pay ransom, defies logic. it should be clear by now and no one knows this better than our military leaders that even as we need to crush isil on the battlefield, their military defeat will not be enough. the international community will continue to be at risk in getting sucked into the kind of global whack-a-mole where we're always reacting to the latest threat or lone actor. that's why we're also working to counter violent extremism more broadly, including the social, economic and political factors that help fuel groups like isil and al qaeda in the first place. >> just listen to what mr. trump has to say and make your own judgment with respect to how confident you feel about his ability to manage things like our nuclear triad. >> reporter: -- suggests that
you're not confident. >> as i recall, i just answered a question about this a couple days ago and i thought i made my self pretty clear. i don't want to keep repeating it or a variation on it. i obviously have a very strong opinion about the two candidates who are running here. one is very positive and one is not so much. what i can say is this is serious business. the person who is in the oval office and who -- our secretary of defense and joint chiefs of staff and our outstanding men and women in uniform report to, they are counting on somebody who has the temperament and good judgment to be able to make decisions to keep america safe. that should be very much on the minds of voters when they go into the voting booth in november.
>> back now with the panel. richard, joseph, david, kayleigh, tara and peter. david, i want to start with you. this is the last news conference president obama is giving before he goes off on a two-week vacation. effectively his final summer event. he talked about isis, talked about the iran cash exchange which has been in the news lately, talked about donald trump. what message do you think he wanted to leave with the american people, with voters, before his vacation? >> i think he wanted to leave a message that the country's in safe steady hands. he intentionally chose the pentagon to make this statement in. that is about 60% of people in this country don't actually think he's been very good in dealing with isis. i think he's probably trying to shore that up. but i also think very strongly that he wanted to present a contrast in personality and temperament to donald trump. it wasn't what he said, it was the way he was. that is -- temperament does matter in politics. it matters in the presidency.
oliver wendell holmes, senior, kayleigh will know this from law school days, famously said of franklin roosevelt, he has a second class mind but a first class temperament. that was the secret to his success. people judge you by that. increasingly i think the problem, we are in a -- what i sense is we are at a major turning point in this campaign. a lot of people assume this could close up, it will inevitably close in october. maybe it will. there's a long time between here and october. it's very possible that voters after the conventions, they start to crystallize in their views of the candidates. it's moving in hillary's direction so forcefully that it's really hard to see how this turns. instead of it turning, it may actually open some more. it's really striking that the clinton people, the clinton forces are pulling back some of the advertising in a place like virginia. they are not advertising in
colorado. what they see, they smell a landslide and are starting to move their money into other states. they are taking things off the board like virginia, starting to move into other states trying to keep building this up. we may not see a close election. i don't know which way it will go but it's a fascinating time right now. >> tara, that's the broader picture. one of the things the president spent a lot of time defending was this cash exchange with iran. $400 million that arrived the same day that four american hostages were released. what role do you see this issue playing in the campaign? donald trump has been hitting it very hard. republicans have been hitting it very hard. but remember, they are running against hillary clinton who was not secretary of state at the time and did not specifically negotiate that part of the deal. >> right. the people still associate the foreign policy failures of the obama administration to hillary clinton. she was the most visible secretary of state, most people forget about john kerry. he's not very exciting. this is a huge story, huge, and donald trump because he lacks
credibility on these issues, running around talking about a phantom video, it hurts the independents who are looking for someone who is going to lead us on this. people should be outraged by what happened here. but donald trump saying that oh, yeah, i saw the video, it was crystal clear, because the iranians want to embarrass us, he's just fabricating things like he fabricated the base in saudi arabia we are supposed to pay for, they should be paying us for. he hurts himself where this should be a winning issue for the republicans. that should be hammering home every single day. this is another example of a failure of his foreign policy. we need to change, iran is going to get nukes, we have isis has risen, all of these things they could point to but donald trump is such a godawful messenger it hurts them on it. >> donald trump mentioned the video, he mistakenly saw the wrong video, but the broader context of what he said today for the entire day was this. $400 million was tied up and in the dead of night after 30 years of being tied up it arrived on
the same day the hostages leave. >> why did he make up the video? >> the hostage came on today and said it was odd, because our plane was delayed for two hours, we had to wait on a plane landing. >> why does your candidate make up the video? that is so irresponsible. it's not a mistake if you go into full detail. he went into detail and said it was a top secret video. did he not say this? >> i know you like to filibuster. >> you have got to be kidding me. you are saying that because you won't acknowledge your candidate's line about that. answer the question i asked you. >> will you let me speak? explain to me why he went into detail. >> thank you for letting me speak. >> go for it. >> he saw a video he thought was the video. it was b-roll instead. let me finish. so he went on the rest of the day talking about this issue as he should have. he made a mistake, yes. but you like to analyze every
syllable he says. >> when you are running for president of the united states, that would cause a major problem. where are his foreign policy advisors? i forgot. he gets it from the shows which is what happened today. >> he made a mistake. i know you like to focus on the five words that came out of his mouth that were a mistake. >> you like to deny the fact he makes huge mistakes like that. >> i want to talk more about the substance of the iran issue but he made the mistake yesterday, there was a mistake yesterday, "the washington post" wrote a whole story about how it was a mistake, it was the b-roll, then he did it again today and today, he went into great detail telling a tale about how he did it and describing the video in detail. a lot of people look and say okay, he made a mistake one day but then to talk about it again a full day later, seems hard to believe it's a mistake the second time. >> i'm not sure donald trump is reading "the washington post" which has devoted 20 reporters to covering him but haven't confirmed how many they are devoting to hillary. he made a mistake on this video. i don't know when he found out -- >> the whole campaign said it was the b-roll. >> it was a mistake. he devoted the rest of the day to the issue.
the voters care about what happens in iran. we can analyze everything -- >> here is the thing. because we have heard from a number of republicans on this today. they clearly think it is worth discussing right now, the $400 million and the timing of it. yes, everyone knew $400 million was going to iran. the president announced that the day the deal was culminated in january. but the timing of it and the plane arriving, that is new news. >> sure. they had details in "wall street journal." the truth is this case was going to the hague. this was money that we owed the iranians. they had bought something from us and we had never delivered it to them. the truth is if they had not delivered this problem we were going to have to give significantly more. we would lose that case at the hague. it's not ransom. if you are giving people their own money which is what we were doing here.
i think the larger case is that neither donald trump or even a more supposedly sophisticated republican foreign policy expert like marco rubio will be able to convince people at this point the iran deal was a wrong deal given the fact they have gotten rid of 98% of enriched uranium, submitted to the tough inspections and shut down their plutonium program. >> joseph? >> i think this is crazy. let's talk about something that's mostly true that hillary clinton said. even though the iran nuclear deal has been widely criticized by both parties, widely unpopular, she said she took ownership of it and had a role in it. politicfact found that mostly true. you saw in the last video the ultimate spin of the obama administration. this is what people are fed up from. you have the iranian state tv saying this is a ransom. the iranian public believes this is ransom. iranian leadership believes this is ransom. >> they are always totally honest. >> the american public believes this is ransom. for all intents and purposes it's ransom.
you can call it whatever you want. but the american public sees it as ransom. other countries see it that way and that's the problem. shame on the president for not seeing that. >> richard, what's the view in clinton world of the fact that this has become an issue over the last 24 hours? >> i agree with peter. i don't think it is going to be an issue. i think first of all, it didn't happen while hillary was secretary of state. but she was -- she did participate in some of the early stages of the deal. but i think it's completely right, this was a separate deal, this was a separate piece of dispute around an arms deal, and i think obviously there was an agreement with these people to release our hostages. i don't think it was completely connected with this. but you know, the amazing thing about this of course now is that what's the alternative. do we want to -- can we put donald trump in charge of negotiating a deal with the iranians? >> releasing american hostages should have been a precondition to even negotiating with the iranians. >> i want to ask this question. one of the things david said is that the president wanted to draw a contrast with donald trump. president obama's approval rating's at 54%, highest in his second term right now and keeps on going up and up and up.
he's a popular second term president, historically speaking. how difficult is that now for donald trump to run against? what challenges does that pose for your candidate? >> what david also indicated was that he's concerned over his public perception over how he's handling isis. this is an administration that says isis is the jayvee team. if you draw a map of iraq and syria, maybe less is painted red but people are seeing isis' ability to project itself to western europe and the united states and saying the administration is not being truthful. that's the bigger problem they face. >> quick last word? >> his biggest vulnerability as president is the economy. donald trump has not played that issue up. he ought to be nailing this. we just had anemic numbers come in. this economy is not doing well. it's sputtering. jobs are not being created. good jobs are not being created. >> the jobs report tomorrow, big, big issue. plenty more to talk about with the panel including truthfulness on both sides. hillary clinton's untrue claim about telling the truth on her e-mails.
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generally speaking, when well-respected fact checkers including our own determine that something you said is flat out untrue, it might be a good idea to stop saying it. especially when we've got a public perception problem, fair or not, deserved or not, when it comes to being trustworthy. that's the case with hillary clinton and a repeated claim she's been making on the campaign trail about her handling of the e-mail scandal. cnn's joe johns is covering secretary clinton and joins us from las vegas. first, lay it out for us. what has she been saying and
said again just the other day, and how does it fit the facts? >> reporter: well, john, the gist of this boils down to what she said to the fbi in an interview versus what she has said in public. and the fbi director has, in fact, said that hillary clinton did not essentially lie to the fbi, but what she said in public is something different. it all boils down in particular to one question of classified e-mails being sent or received on her private e-mail server. she said she did not send or receive any e-mails marked classified on that server, the fbi director has contradicted her in public in a congressional hearing. listen. >> secretary clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her e-mails either sent or
received. was this true? >> that's not true. >> secretary clinton said i did not e-mail any classified material to anyone on my e-mail. there is no classified material. was that true? >> there was classified material e-mailed. >> reporter: so she continues to say what she says that the fbi director said she was truthful, but in some ways, it's been described as parsing, as legalistic, if you will, cherry picking the truth, and that's the reason she keeps getting fact-checked on this very same issue. >> her campaign manager said earlier this week she was slightly misinterpreted after these comments really began on a sunday show. any comment from the campaign about this newest iteration? >> reporter: no comment from the campaign at this time. they have been busy here in las vegas, essentially going after donald trump on his business practices. this has been a swing through colorado, through nevada, where she's talked a lot about the economy, her plans for it and contrasting herself with donald trump. at the same time working hard to
try to cast donald trump as a businessman who is very much out for himself and not for the people he would represent if he were elected president. >> joe johns, thanks so much. so despite stories like that, it doesn't really seem to be hurting hillary clinton in the polls. the new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll shows hillary clinton with a nine point lead nationally. a marist poll has the lead at 15 poipts. there's that race and the money race. new claims from both candidates about how much they have been raising. cnn's tom foreman has more. >> reporter: the billionaire from new york says he raked in $80 million in july. if so, that's a record for his campaign. he's still trailing hillary clinton, who says she pulled $90 million in the same month. but the gap is narrowing and trump says most of the money he raised was from small donors. >> i think it was $61 each and few republicans can do that.
maybe no republican can do that. >> reporter: as late as april, trump had taken so few donations, he was still claiming he was paying for the whole shebang. >> i'm self funding. all of this is mine. >> reporter: but in may, he finally began actively fund-raising and at first it looked bleak. late june found him with $1.3 million in the bank for his campaign. clinton, with $42 million. much of it already earmarked for a plan to pound trump with ads, especially in strategically chosen states. >> knock
the crap out of him, will you? seriously. >> do we respect each other? >> you see this guy, aww, i don't know what i said, aww, i don't remember. >> do we stand together? i know what i believe. >> reporter: still, donald trump has remained competitive despite his surprisingly shallow war chest. for comparison, look at 2012.
at this point in that race, mitt romney had raised and spent a whole lot more money than donald trump has, and he was about three points behind president obama. now, bring it up to 2016. same average of polls, not just one but many polls put together, and donald trump trails hillary clinton by about six points. but what about the home stretch? some major republican fund-raisers, donors or super pacs are turning on trump or showing little interest in helping him. if that continues, the small donors trump is claiming may have to keep
pushing big money his way. tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> our thanks to tom. back with our panel. david gergen, $82 million is real money in a pretty short period of time. that's an impressive haul for the trump campaign. >> absolutely. you have to give him credit for that. he started small and built it up, ilt it up with the
republican party. there is obviously good collaboration going on at that level. it's going to help him in the stretch but he needs to get on the air pretty darned fast. he cannot let this continue to crater. >> tara, you know a lot of this is coming from small donors which is a group the republicans have had trouble with in the past. donald trump is tapping into something here where republicans have had weakness before. >> right. we don't know if they are all republican donors. they could be democrat donors. >> their money's still good. >> he brought in a lot of democrats to our side with his very populist message which is not very republican. anyway, yeah, mitt romney brought in $101 million at this point last time around so he still lags behind there, but i would be very curious to see what happens after -- in the next report. because with people backing away the way they are now and this inexplicable implosion, it doesn't make people confident to give their money. i would be curious to see what happens after that. >> there's the issue of spending it. you have to spend it in a smart way.
there's also the issue of if he did this with the help of the republican party which over the last five days, he's had a pretty contentious relationship with. this is a party where he's insulted paul ryan, the senior elected official in the country by decidedly not endorsing him. ryan a close friend of reince priebus, chair of the party. does he need to be careful if he wants to keep this successful relationship up? >> here's the thing. paul ryan is in a republican primary. there are two republicans running in wisconsin's first district. he's not insulting the party. by not making a call that's smart. he left it to the people. donald trump won and ryan refused to endorse the nominee of the people. donald trump is getting back to what the parties are about, elevating their voters, elevating the people within the party, not those at the top of the party. it is worth mentioning the numbers are phenomenal. donald trump might become the first republican nominee in history to raise this sort of money on $10 and $25 donations. this is remarkable. the apocolyptic predictions not too long ago, donald trump can't raise money, this is the end, he defied all odds once again, now
he has $74 million cash on hand. hillary clinton has $100 million. this is remarkable. >> on the primary thing, though, not just primaries because he's not endorsing kelly ayotte, who is in a general election in new hampshire. he is endorsing marco rubio -- he's cherry picking which primaries he's endorsing. >> can i jump in for a second? it's important to say this. the candidate running against paul ryan who donald trump is saying all these nice things about today called for deporting all muslims from the united states. it says a lot about donald trump that he's not willing to come out and say that alone is disqualifying. he's still open to considering to support that guy. >> he's not open to considering it. he's not endorsing at all. >> mass ethnic cleansing in the united states but he won't take a position with him and the opponent, right? >> one other quick thing about this. i find it really astonishing that trump supporters are saying that donald trump, he's not
supporting anyone and that's a good thing, yet it was donald trump and the same people who said -- expected paul ryan and everyone to fall in line for party unity. >> different scenario. >> it's hypocritical. >> no, it's not. one was the nominee of a party, the other was not yet a nominee. >> you don't know anything about party politics. that's not how you behave. >> joseph, you have worked in the republican party in the state of new york. would you like to see donald trump and paul ryan come together? >> again, for the third, fourth time, depending how you count? >> objectively, i would. i think it's something we will see. to some of the points raised earlier, when obama was raising small donations, his average was $200. donald trump right now is $61. people were falling over themselves how this is a grassroots movement, the greatest thing since sliced bread. we have to give the same credit to donald trump. the other thing about the spending, ads that he will now be able to buy in swing states
are always on message, always attacking hillary clinton and always saying the right thing. i think this is big on two fronts because it shows his grassroots support and will allow him to constantly hit her where it hurts. >> how do we know? we haven't seen any. donald trump hasn't run any. >> he hasn't started running any and the ads get more expensive. >> i just think the poll numbers, the poll numbers are bad news for the donations, too, because as tara said, some of this came in during the convention when they had tv show four nights in a row. but people vote with their pocketbook and if people see a campaign going down like this, they will have trouble raising money for much longer. the whole problem is that donald trump wants to talk about process, he wants to talk about how much money he raised, wants to attack people, talk about how well he's doing, he wants to talk about all these side issues. hillary clinton is talking about her plans, where she wants to take the country. they had four days in which they tried to scare people. we had four days in which we talked about the future. that's why i think the poll numbers are turning for hillary.
>> hillary clinton is also talking about her e-mails in a similar way as she has -- >> listen, i really think you mischaracterized. >> i want to ask david about this. we heard your argument. richard says hillary clinton continues to be truthful. that's his argument about the e-mail. she says the fbi director james comey says she told the truth to the american people even though fbi director james comey said nothing of the sort in his testimony. >> that's really not exactly true. but go ahead. >> he did. he was asked directly were classified e-mails sent -- >> i think you are trying to split hairs here. what comey said is that she was completely truthful to the fbi. >> full stop. >> yes. >> he said that. >> yes. then the questions you played in the setup, i think you said something at the beginning introducing this setup, suggesting she had not been truthful.
joe johns in the piece explains that there are some nuances here. >> she said twice -- >> he was very clear there are nuances. >> she said she never sent e-mails marked classified, before she said she never sent classified e-mails period. because fbi director james comey said flat out she did send e-mails and received that were classified. i want david to weigh in here. you observed the clintons for a long long time. you have seen the answers she has been giving about this. it fits a pattern. >> i have a hard time dealing with it because i do agree with you. there were clearly nuances, there were discrepancies, there were basic differences. >> talking about a little marking, okay? the fbi director said could have been -- >> very hard to have an argument when you yell. okay? >> it's very hard to have an argument with you when you are
not telling the truth. >> okay. >> richard, you are doing a disservice to your candidate by not being willing to acknowledge basic truths. >> i wish he would confront hillary like he's confronting you. >> it's my view, you can have your view, it's my view there are serious discrepancies between what the fbi director found and what she's been saying publicly and i think it's a fair conclusion that she ought to be much more careful in what she's saying and what she says goes beyond what the facts support on the trail. i don't know why, peter goes to the question and i have had this issue for a long time, i think hillary clinton is an admirable person. there are a lot of things about her i really admire. i also think she has a blind spot in some of these areas and i don't know why she can't get off some of these things. >> i will stop it right there. we will leave it right there. everyone's had a say in this discussion and then some. i really appreciate you all being here tonight. so what happened when donald trump's running mate mike pence
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donald trump's running mate mike pence has been clocking overtime lately doing damage control. at a town hall in north carolina today, an 11-year-old boy flat out asked governor pence if he was on the ticket to soften up trump. >> i have been noticing that you have been kind of softening up on mr. trump's policies and words. is this your role -- is this going to be your role in the administration? >> what's your name, son? >> matthew. >> matthew. what did you say that i have been doing? >> you have been kind of softening up on his words. >> let me tell you, matthew, number one, this boy's got a future. nicely done. let me tell you what. i couldn't be more proud to stand with donald trump and we are shoulder to shoulder in this campaign, my friend. sometimes things don't always come out like you mean, right?
and donald trump and i are absolutely determined to work together. >> that boy's name is matthew stricker and he later told "new york times" i wanted to make sure he was totally loyal to mr. trump and the republican party. at the same time a lot of republicans are questioning trump's loyalty to them. senator jeff flick of arizona has not endorsed donald trump and joins us now. senator flake, we just played sound of this 11-year-old kid asking governor mike pence if his job in a trump administration will be to clean up after donald trump. that seems like something of a problem if that's your job as the number two in an administration. >> well, i think the world of mike pence. he's a good friend and a good man. i think he has a tough job given some of the statements that donald trump has made and continues to make. so it's a tough job. i think mike does it well. >> do you think he should be
doing it, senator? >> well, i don't think that donald trump ought to be making the statements he's been making. i think he needs to change not just some of his positions but the tone and tenor of the debate certainly need to change. >> have you seen any evidence he's capable of change? i'm asking because this could have been a good week for donald trump. he had weak gdp numbers coming up, hillary clinton continuing to make false claims of what fbi director comey said about her e-mail. do you think donald trump is capable of change? >> well, i sure hope in the next 96 days that he does so, but hope is dimming i think for those of us who have wanted to see him pivot after the primary and take a more responsible tone. we haven't seen it yet. i hope we do. but time is growing short. >> again, have you seen anything
in the past to make you think that it might happen in the future? >> you know, i see hints of it. during the campaign -- sorry, during the convention, people were yelling lock her up, lock her up and he didn't respond to those chants or responded let's beat her in november. that's the right response. but then later on, he seemed to kind of slip back and say well, those chants are sounding better or something to that effect. there are hints every once in awhile that he may be changing, then he seems to snap right back to the old campaign method. it may have worked well in a primary. i don't think it works in a general. >> senator, a slew of polls out today including in battleground states like pennsylvania, michigan, new hampshire, florida, all show donald trump down by a significant margin. national polls out tonight showing him down anywhere from nine to 15 points across the
country. are you worried what his impact will be on the republican party at the state and local levels? >> yes, i am. i think all of us are. donald trump likes to say and he's right that one of the most important aspects of this election is what happens to the supreme court. that's where a real presidential legacy is left. but if donald trump continues to take the positions he is taking and say the things that he's said, that not only means that he won't win in november but it will be a drag on races around the country as well. you may be able to out-poll the president or sorry, your nominee by a few points. it's tough to out-poll them by 10 or 12. so if he's down by 10 or 12 points in certain states, those senate candidates in those states are in a tough position. so that could impact obviously the supreme court if you have a democrat in the white house making appointments and a democrat senate confirming those appointments, then yeah, that's a real concern that i think all
of us have. >> republican congressman mike kaufmann of colorado today started running ads not just distancing himself from donald trump, basically saying he doesn't like donald trump. what's your advice to members of congress in tough races, senators in tough races in states where donald trump might not be polling well? >> well, my advice would be to donald trump to change the tone and tenor of his campaign and to stop focusing on republicans that he doesn't like and focusing on the record of hillary clinton. i think that should be the focus. if he doesn't, if he continues as he is, then a lot of republicans, believe me, are going to be making statements like mike kaufmann made in the next hundred days and they will be distancing themselves. the onus is on donald trump to change the direction of his campaign. >> senator, are you getting tired of being asked these questions? because you have been pretty clear about your position toward donald trump for some time. are you getting tired having to
sort of discuss this at length as you are? >> well, i want a republican in the white house. i think that the country needs that. i want donald trump to change. if he doesn't change the direction of his campaign and change some of the statements he's made and some of the positions he's taken, he's not going to get there and he shouldn't get there if he continues to make these kind of statements. so i would much rather be talking about hillary clinton and her record and why we need a republican in the white house but we can't seem to get there. >> senator jeff flake, thanks so much for being with us. >> thank you. just ahead, a life-long republican was for trump early in the campaign, has done an about-face. she's now going to vote for hillary clinton. what changed her mind and made her cross party lines? i had that dream again --
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thrown their support behind clinton. at the democratic convention, clinton and some other speakers reached out specifically to republican voters. in nevada, gary tuchman found a republican who now is a clinton supporter. >> reporter: nancy and juan jimenez have been married for 35 years. for each and every one of those years, he's been a registered democrat and she, a republican. but here she is in las vegas at a hillary clinton rally. >> initially in this campaign, who did you favor for president? >> trump. >> reporter: donald trump? >> donald trump. >> reporter: why did you like trump originally? >> i liked him because he was different. i thought he would bring a difference to america. >> reporter: but for nancy jimenez, who has long considered herself a reagan republican, that was then. and this is now. so do you still support donald trump? >> no. >> reporter: what changed? >> when i saw the debate and i saw how he acts and how he comes across, he is not who we want to represent america.
>> reporter: it's not easy to find republicans at a hillary clinton rally but as more gop politicians come out against trump, so do some republican voters. voters like nancy jimenez. midway through this rally, she liked what she was hearing. >> i want to be the president of all americans, democrats, republicans, independents, young, old, everybody in between. >> reporter: jimenez was disappointed she couldn't get close enough afterwards to get a picture with hillary clinton. but she says that was her only disappointment. >> she was so poised and so confident and she knows what she wants, and she is not willing -- i mean, she's willing to go out there and fight for the american people. >> reporter: poaching republicans is a major goal for hillary clinton just like poaching democrats is a major goal for donald trump. but here in this place, score one for clinton. nancy jimenez appears to be one of the poached. you have a lot of republican friends and family?
>> absolutely. >> reporter: if they ask you, listen, you got to stay loyal to your party, reconsider hillary clinton, go back to donald trump, you say? >> no way. can't go back to trump. my whole family is republican. my dad, everybody is republican. >> reporter: three debates left, three months to go. >> nope. i won't go back. >> gary tuchman joins us now. it is hard to find a lot of republicans at hillary clinton events but were there others? >> reporter: well, we did find others but their allegiances vary. for example, we found a couple of people who say they are still voting for donald trump. they like donald trump a lot. they just wanted to see their political enemy, hillary clinton, in person. we talked to a woman who doesn't like trump or clinton, a republican, says she's going to vote for gary johnson, libertarian party. then we also found a couple other people who are also republicans who are going to vote for hillary clinton but they did not want to go on camera yet because they were afraid of the reactions they would get from their friends and
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go babies is been born in california with microcephaly. in california and in other states, all of the mothers were infected in other countries, not here in the u.s. dr. sanjay gupta joins us from rio de janeiro, which has been dealing with the zika virus for some time. and they are hosting the olympics. sanjay, these women who gave birth in california, they were infected outside the united states, they came back with zika. how worried should pregnant women who have traveled to areas with zika now be? >> there's been a travel warning about this very issue for some time, saying if you are pregnant, you should not travel to one of these areas where zika is spreading. it's one of these things we're still learning more and more about zika. we didn't know how significant
this virus was going to be. we didn't know about the association with birth defects. this has all happened over the last several months. some people probably took these warnings more serious than others. but it's a serious warning. now, i want to point out, if you travel to one of these areas, it is not to say you will certainly get a zika infection and even if you did get a zika infection, it does not certainly mean your child will have a birth defect but there's enough of a risk there. >> you spoke to a fertility doctor, who -- what did they suggest people who may have been exposed to zika and are wanting to have children do? >> well, if you're someone who -- a woman who is not pregnant, you're wanting to have children and you think that you've had a zika infection, there's a couple things to keep in mind. one is that you could potentially get tested but more importantly, the zika virus in women is something that's going to leave the system at some point. usually after several days, maybe seven or eight days and
after that, future pregnancies should not be at risk. so, again, if you've had the infection, you know, that's concerning certainly, but if you're not pregnant when the virus leaves your system, the pregnancy that you do have should go just fine. >> dr. sanjay gupta for us in rio de janeiro for us, where, hopefully, the story as of tomorrow night will be the games and not the zika virus that everyone's been so concerned about. we'll be right back. we've got two new ways to "steak heaven".k because now every sirloin is a tender, juicy, center cut sirloin. and when you join our new dine rewards™ program, after three visits, your 4th outback meal, half off. that's bloomin' great!
it has been quite a day, quite a week on the campaign trail and tomorrow should be no different. we'll bring you the latest tomorrow night. time now for "cnn tonight" with don lemon. happy birthday, mr. president. top of his game. president barack obama taking on donald trump again. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. the president throwing some serious shade at the republican candidate's claim that the election will be rigged. >> of course, the elections will not be rigged. what does that mean? that doesn't make sense. i don't think anybody would take that seriously. if mr. trump is up 10 or 15 points on election day and ends up losing, then maybe he can raise some questions. that doesn't seem to be the case at the momen