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good evening. top of the hour now, the polls have just closed in wisconsin. as you can see, we are waiting to hear from house speaker paul ryan. it is primary night for the highest ranking republican in the nation. we will bring you results live as they come in. we begin, though, with the man who was already giving speaker ryan a permanent ulcer with some of the things he's said, donald trump. today he said more. >> hillary wants to abolish essentially abolish the second amendment. by the way, if she gets to pick -- if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. although the second amendment people, maybe there is. i don't know. >> there it is. you can judge for yourself whether trump was joking about someone shooting hillary clinton if she becomes president or whether as defenders say he was
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calling for gun rights supporters to vote in november or whether he's changing the message as clinton supporter senator elizabeth warren said because his campaign is in trouble. trump, she tweeted, makes death threats because he's a pathetic coward who can't handle the fact that he's losing to a girl. rhetoric on all sides tonight pretty heated. that's just some of the reaction. donald trump spoke a short time ago in fayetteville, north carolina. cnn's sara murray is there and joins us now. sara, some of the comments were made in a stop earlier today. there was a whole lot of reaction after that. just finished up in fayetteville, north carolina. what's the latest? >> reporter: well, that's right, as soon as donald trump made that comment, it immediately raised the eyebrows of many political observers. of course hillary clinton's campaign seized on it immediately saying this was donald trump promoting violence, clearly taking this as a threat against hillary clinton.
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the trump campaign moved faster than usual to try to clean this up. they put out a statement this afternoon clarifying that donald trump was not talking about violence. they said he was just talking about trying to get second amendment supporters to coalesce behind him. they feel like they have a better shot at winning over these voters than hillary clinton will in the fall. >> but donald trump himself, he did not address this tonight in fayetteville, did he? >> reporter: this was another interesting twist by donald trump. usually after a controversy like this, you would see him come out on the stump at the later event, we would hear him talk about it, probably hear him slam the media. we did not hear that on the campaign trail this evening. but he did talk about it in an interview with fox news. take a listen. >> nobody in that room thought anything other than what you just said. this is a political movement. this is a strong powerful movement, the second amendment. you know, hillary wants to take your guns away. she wants to leave you unprotected in your home. this is a tremendous political
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movement. the nra as you know endorsed me. they are terrific people, wayne and chris and all the people over there. and by the way, they have already, i just saw, they tweeted out basically they agree 100% with what i said and there can be no other interpretation. even reporters have told me, give me a break. >> reporter: now, you see trump insisting that this was about political power, it was not about trying to incite violence but the fact that he talked about it in this interview but not on the stump here tonight is as good of an indication as any that the campaign wants to get rid of this story and move beyond it, try to refocus on some of the issues they were hoping to talk about this week. >> message control. it is something the trump campaign has wanted to achieve and of course, yesterday he gave a speech on the economy. that's what they wanted to be talking about this week. >> reporter: absolutely. they were saying they were going to continue to roll out more specifics about his economic plan and one thing that's worth remembering is it's moments like this today that really give republicans and independents heartburn about whether they can
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get behind donald trump, because they feel like they see him saying he's going to stick to a message and it works for a difficult day or so, then 24 hours later we're in the middle of the next firestorm. the trump campaign is trying to prove at least today they can put these things to bed and move beyond it. we will see fit works tomorrow. >> donald trump's running mate weighing in, speaking to a philadelphia television station. this is what mike pence said when he was asked if he thought trump was inciting violence. >> of course not. no. donald trump is urging people around this country to act in a manner consistent with their convictions in the course of this election, and people who cherish the second amendment have a very clear choice in this election. >> all right. back now with our panel. joining us this hour, cnn's senior political analyst david gergen. you just heard governor mike pence on the question of whether donald trump was inciting violence. that's an extreme view of what donald trump said. a middle view which is also critical is that he was careless in his words, in talking about
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violence in a way dealing with presidential candidates and some people think you should never get even close to that line. >> i think careless is being a generous description of what he said. listen, for a great number of years now, what donald trump calls the second amendment people have argued vociferously to keep away gun control restrictions on guns because they think they ought to have their guns in the event there's a tyrannical government they should be able to overthrow that government. that's the fundamental argument you have heard for a lot of years. along comes, we have had republican candidates like the candidate who ran against, out in the west six years ago, who running against harry reid, she said there are second amendment remedies if the congress gets out too far in front, if harry reid is out there out of control, we have second amendment remedies. what she meant was to have a right to bear arms against. what donald trump said today was
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not that he was rallying people to vote. that's perfectly legitimate. of course it is. he said if we lose the vote, there's nothing we can do. if we lose the vote, there's nothing we can do unless maybe it's the second amendment people. that's a dog whistle. most of us know what dog whistles sound like in politics. it's one of the clearest ones we have ever heard. frankly, when other people have engaged in this, jesse helms did this when bill clinton was president. he said if bill clinton comes into our state in north carolina, he ought to bring a bodyguard. within 24 hours he had to say i made a mistake because people jumped all over him. you do not do that with the president of the united states. i worked with two presidents, one of whom almost lost his life, ronald reagan, at the hands of an assassin. you do not raise the issue in such a way that is open to a reasonable interpretation that you are trying to say if this person gets out of line we will take care of him, second amendment folks, after they get elected. >> john, donald trump supporter, you heard what david said. he called it a dog whistle. >> i will continue to say this is a very different candidate. i understand what mr. gergen is
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saying but the reality is donald trump is someone that's speaking to the average american, he's speaking in their language. it's not the political speak that we are used to hearing. it's not political correctness. he's actually moving very much against political correctness. i think his explanation immediately thereafter and i love the fact that he's not going to address it anymore because it's a ridiculous situation. we need to start focusing on our economy. we need to start focusing on isis and we have to stop nitpicking these little things because we have to choose a commander in chief that's going to be able to get this economy going again, make this military strong again, and make america a true presence in this world. he's ready to do that. >> i agree with that basic point. i think getting the economy, we talked about this before here, but this is a candidate who began by calling her crooked hillary and basically has been calling her criminal now for some time. this is a candidate who one of the rallying cries he hasn't yet finished is "lock her up." those are the preludes for
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saying basically dehumanizing somebody, demonizing them and making it possible for some crazy out there and we are talking about crazies. dog whistles go to crazies. and that they may feel well, she's so bad we ought to lock her up, maybe we ought to take care of her all together. that's the issue that's really out here. it's a shameful, a shameful statement to be making as nominee for the president of the united states. >> the point that john was making last segment that i agree with is that the reason why mr. trump has attracted as many supporters as he has is that he does bring to the race an authenticity, an authenticity which is welcome in politics and which i think hillary sometimes struggles with and has to do better at and i think she will do a lot better with. but the problem that emerges with mr. trump is that as he becomes more authentic and in his most authentic moments, we see why he is so scary because this moment today, you say that the campaign was hoping that he would talk about the economic
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speech. i don't think he was hoping that he was talking -- wanted to talk about the economic speech today. i think he talked about exactly what he wanted to talk about today, to get this attention because he is such a narcissist. he loves this attention. he loves sucking up all the air. but when he speaks candidly, he says things like this. sometimes he says well, it's good for turnberry that brexit passed, he goes against the judge and goes against the father. so when we see, when his authenticity emerges with such clarity we see what the man is really like. >> i want to ask quickly, when donald trump says something like this, the media often reports it using his own words, explaining what his own words were, playing his own words. do you think the media is wrong to focus on statements like this as much as we sometimes do? >> no. i think it's one of the major events of the campaign. i think he deserves to stay, he deserved to clarify. i think we ought to hear from them, absolutely. but i don't think we should just come out with an equivalence.
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50% think this and 50% think that, let's move on to the next story. some things are just wrong. and this is wrong. it is wrong to raise the issue of violence, it's against the law to threaten any federal official, it is against the law. he's coming right up against the edge of the law. >> alice burns, political reporter, when something like this happens, how difficult is it for you then to go back and focus on the estate tax? >> as much as i would like to, it's tricky to say what reporters do when something like this happens because something like this never happens. you don't have a presidential candidate walking as close to the line as trump does certainly on something like this. but look, over the last few weeks, really escalating in the democratic convention and since then, have yyou have had a real concerted effort on the part of the clinton campaign but also outside allies aligned against donald trump to cast him as an unacceptable candidate, somebody who does not belong in public life, let alone the presidency,
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as meg whitman, the hewlett-packard ceo, stand by her comments comparing him to hitler. this is extraordinary stuff, extraordinary effort to cast him as somebody who simply does not belong in the election. donald trump when he does something like this, he makes that kind of effort an awful lot easier at a moment when he badly needs to be appealing to people who are skeptical of his campaign. >> cory lewandowski, 30 second. >> joe saying this is what american people, this is clear speaking to them, somehow implying they don't understand other type of language, is not true and the american people are smart. the american people don't want their leaders talking or implying or leaning towards violence. they have seen too much violence in this country. they don't want any more of it which is why the vast majority of gun owners support the type of legislation secretary clinton does. >> last word? >> i don't think any gun owners in the country support hillary clinton. donald trump is endorsed by the nra, the earliest endorsement
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they ever made before he was the republican nominee. what we are not talking about, policies of the clinton administration which have gotten people killed in benghazi, we are not talking about the families suing hillary clinton for the failed policies because their children were killed in benghazi. want to talk about gun violence, that's the gun violence we should be talking about today. >> again, the reason we are not talking about that tonight is? >> this is a classic position heal thyself. to say get back on track with the economy, maybe if trump stuck to the script we would be. >> we will talk about a lot of things including the economy after the break. we will also talk about a way donald trump gets his ideas across. many people are saying things about the way he keeps on saying things like many people are saying things. as soon as the returns start building up in wisconsin we will take you there live results from house speaker paul ryan in a re-election primary battle. what if i told you there was a car companyawards. that received all of these awards? one company won an award in all of these? chevy.
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as we wait to learn paul ryan's fate in his primary we are talking about the latest thing donald trump is saying, saying, we should add with memory still fresh from the lasting this he said. his suggestion, his insinuation that an iranian nuclear scientist who helped the u.s. may have been executed because of hillary clinton's e-mail issues. it came in a tweet and many people are saying it revealed a lot about how donald trump operates. more on that from cnn's chief political correspondent dana bash. >> reporter: it has long been a staple of trump-speak. >> some people have been saying that. a lot of people are saying that.
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half the people in this room are saying it. some people. i don't know. >> reporter: then this tweet. many people are saying that the iranians killed the scientist who helped the u.s. because of hillary clinton's hacked e-mails. that harsh allegation using only "many people are saying" as his proof has turned the catch phrase into an instant internet sensation. many people are saying #went viral becoming a forum to mock trump. hillary clinton spokesman nick merrill saying a unicorn is housed in a cage atop trump tower. the band spoon, many people are saying, our next album will heal the sick and end all war. it's just what many people are saying. beneath the sarcasm is a serious question. why does trump send conspiracy theories into the ether with only a version of many people are saying to back it up? >> is he a natural-born citizen? some people -- i don't know. >> reporter: sometimes it's about knocking an opponent off
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message like during the primaries, when trump questioned canadian-born ted cruz's eligibility to be president. >> a lot of people think you have to be born here. you have to be born on this land. >> reporter: cruz, who was then gaining on trump in iowa, denounced trump's allegation. >> the legal issue is straightforward. the son of a u.s. citizen born abroad is a natural born citizen. >> reporter: other times it appears trump uses it to change the subject when he's getting bad press. trump's monday afternoon tweet connecting clinton to an executed iranian scientist came little more than an hour after the "new york times" first reported about a letter signed by 50 gop national security experts warning trump would be a dangerous commander in chief. >> lot of people are very skeptical as to what happened and how he died. >> reporter: when trump started focusing on clinton after he locked up the gop nomination, he used his "some people say" phrase to road test conspiracy theories from the 1990s like questioning whether clinton aide and friend vince foster really committed suicide.
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trump telling "washington post" quote, there are people who continue to bring it up because they think it was absolutely a murder. i don't do that because i don't think it's fair. beyond why trump does this, the question is, do these people exist and if so, who are they? one source familiar with how trump operates tells cnn sometimes those people are some of trump's 10.8 million twitter followers, many of whom constantly send him ideas and suggestions. remember this trump m.o. worked for him in the gop primaries and even before he ran in 2011, seizing on the obama birther movement. >> a lot of these are really quality people that just want the truth. >> reporter: still, scroll through trump's twitter feed and you realize he's relied on the phrase for years, even to promote his businesses. quote, many people have commented that my fragrance, success, is the best scent and lasts the longest. try it and let me know what you think. dana bash, cnn, washington. >> it is a great fragrance.
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let's talk about it. david gergen is here, cory lewandowski is back and joining us, "washington post" josh roekroe rogen, a cnn analyst for us. cory, let me ask you should the bar for a presidential candidate be higher than "many people are saying" because, i say this partly in jest but many people are saying the moon landing was faked, many people are saying bigfoot roams the pacific northwest. >> i think what you have with donald trump is he has advice and counsel from a lot of people and he gets advice and counsel from a lot of people as opposed to individually naming those people, saying i spoke to general flynn or admiral -- whoever it may be, he uses the term as a catch-all. many people have told me this. that's where he receives a lot of that information. so what happens is as opposed to individually naming each person he's talking to about a specific issue, he uses a general term. that's not uncommon. it happens all the time. i have worked for multiple elected officials who would tell
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me that three people in their district had told them that something was going to occur. now, whether or not those three people actually existed for that particular elected official, maybe that's up for debate. >> it is often in donald trump's case tied to a questionable or controversial theory. i use that word loosely. david gergen, you briefed for many different places including inside the white house. would you get away with a phrase like that? >> not for very long. you may get away with it for awhile. donald trump's a very clever man. i think we ought to say that up front. he's discovered ways to talk to the american people that have eluded most political figures. so there are a lot of things about him, you have to say that's worked. but in his cleverness he's found a rhetorical trick, to be able to introduce something saying i'm not saying this, i'm not the one putting this out there, other people are putting it out there. now let me tell you something really scurrilous about hillary clinton or something about barack obama, where he was born. you play into conspiracy
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theories but you have de deniabili deniability, oh, i didn't say it. many people think. but i can tell you, people start using it on him, hillary starts saying many people say donald trump is a serial con man, many people say donald trump hasn't read a serious book in 25 years, many people think donald trump is certifiably crazy. a lot of people are saying that but there's no evidence, hard evidence, to support those. >> josh rogen, you who are an expert on social media and twitter, you know that in this world of social media you can say things that get picked up and get an awful lot of mileage. so in a way, the way donald trump speaks and the where he's doing it only add to each other. >> right. mark twain said a lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on. he didn't even know about twitter when he wrote that. the bottom line, the point is
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not where donald trump is getting information. the point is that it's wrong and he doesn't seem to have the basic curiosity or rigor of thought to determine that it's wrong before he perpetuates these things. i don't know if cory's right and he actually believes these things or it's just so irresponsible or that he doesn't check them before he perpetuates them or if he's intentionally misleading his millions of followers in order to create attacks on his political enemies. either way it's a really bad practice, okay? it's a pattern and it's an intentional pattern of sort of taking these conspiracy theories or rumors, giving them enough oxygen and then pointing to that oxygen as confirmation. it's by its nature deceptive and creates a pakistanization of the media where every sort of crazy theory has enough life to last forever and no one can really unwind any of his conspiracies. >> you know, cory, what is the process when there is a discussion inside the campaign, how does something get from
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donald trump's head to a twitter account? >> i think i can only tell you when i was there the way the campaign functioned. mr. trump has the ability to view his own twitter account. he's got 10.8 million followers on twitter. if you look at the totality of his facebook page, social media account, 20 million people he interacts with directly by bypassing the mainstream media. he looks at his twitter feed, looks at the people that are posting. you have seen many times where there are very relevant stories that are on those twitter accounts, whether it's the a.p., "washington post," "wall street journal" or many other credible news sources he will retweet or repost. not only does he have access to look at his twitter feed and post to that directly but he will also assign a staffer, a specific task of posting certain things to his twitter feed if he deems it appropriate. >> i will just tell you this. you get any college professor who has a paper that comes in and cites social media as a source of facts is going to get flunked like that. it is not a reliable source of
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information. it is not double-checked. that's the whole point of journalism. journalism, we would be out of business a long time ago, but the fact is there's more expected. i will just tell you, there was a time in richard nixon's white house i ran the research team for awhile. before he went out, we had a "time" magazine method of checking. every single word had to be checked for veracity. every single word. hu you had to put a check mark on every single word. this is richard nixon, not the most truthful guy we ever had in the white house. >> in this age of information, it's instantaneous. you have the opportunity to bypass the media and if you want to put something out to your supporters, ni know the media hs a twitter feed that follows donald trump and every time he tweets something they are alerted to it immediately. >> josh, quick last word? >> cory is totally missing the point. it's not a twitter problem. it's an honesty problem. the fact that he's putting out these facts that are easily
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refutable and doesn't seem to care when they are refuted and doesn't apologize is a terrible indicator of what he would be like as president. if he's getting information from unreliable sources, failing to check it and failing to even bother to acknowledge it when it's wrong, that's a problem for his credibility, okay? that's the problem we face if donald trump were to actually be elected president. >> coming up next, we talk about hillary clinton and what many people think was a serious stumble by her campaign. i just said many people believe. plus we head to wisconsin, where paul ryan's primary re-election bid has landed in the national spotlight courtesy largely of donald trump. we will get the latest results from today's voting. fall in love with a new daily fiber. new mirafiber from the makers of miralax. it's the only fiber that supports regularity with dailycomfort fiber. so unlike others, mirafiber is less likely to cause unwanted gas. love your fiber. new mirafiber.
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numbers just start ting to trickle in in wisconsin with paul ryan's bid for re-election. first we will speak about hillary clinton, her battle her campaign says to turn red states blue and also what seems to be a big mistake her campaign made. jeff zeleny has the latest from the clinton campaign trail. >> reporter: hillary clinton is casting a wider net tonight.
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>> thank you for the work you do every day. >> reporter: searching for new republican supporters and newly competitive red states, possibly up for grabs in the wake of donald trump. the clinton campaign's concerted effort to recruit some of the republicans peeling off trump is paying off. at least in small ways. two prominent republican environmentalists who ran the epa during the nixon, reagan and george h.w. bush administrations, announced their support today for clinton. they said trump has shown a profound ignorance of science, particularly on climate change. yet not all republicans coming out against trump are turning toward clinton. including republican senator susan collins of maine. >> i have a lot of concerns about hillary clinton and i am not going to support her. >> reporter: cnn has learned the clinton campaign is also eyeing new investments in georgia and arizona, exploring whether trump's challenges have created a realistic opening in republican territory.
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those are two red states with a high share of hispanic and black voters. democrats believe they can flip. it's a delicate dance for clinton. in florida today, blasting gop congressional leaders for not signing off on zika funding. >> get a bill passed. get a bill that is focused on combatting zika passed. >> reporter: while in south florida, clinton also visited ousted dnc chair debbie wasserman schultz. >> please do everything you can to make sure debbie has a resounding victory on august 30th. >> reporter: she's fighting for her seat in congress in a primary this month. it's one of the remaining wars in the democratic family feud. bernie sanders is supporting wasserman schultz's rival. >> after you take a few days off, we got to get back to work for november. right? >> reporter: all this as clinton's rally monday night outside orlando focusing on trump -- >> he wants to roll back regulations on wall street.
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>> reporter: suddenly overshadowed by another man. the father of the pulse nightclub shooter was sitting just behind clinton, watching as she talked about the nation's deadliest mass shooting, killing 49 people in june. >> i know how many people, family members, loved ones and friends, are still grieving. >> reporter: he told cnn affiliate wptv he's a democrat and wanted to attend the rally. the clinton campaign said it did not know he was in the audience or selected to be onstage. >> why they shouldn't be surprised, i love the united states and i have been living here for a long time. >> reporter: he said he supports clinton. >> clinton is good for united states versus donald trump. >> jeff zeleny joins us now. what's the clinton campaign saying about this man's presence at the rally? >> reporter: they are saying once again they had no idea that he was in the room, that it was a rally of some 3,000 people and they simply didn't know he was in attendance until after the fact, until after he was
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interviewed. i was at this rally last night outside orlando, as we have been to hundreds of rallies over the course of the last year or so, and i will tell you, some campaigns do set up people directly behind the speaker. you know that just as well as i do from covering campaigns. but in other times, they often rush to fill the majority of them in a more haphazard way. people stand in line for a long time so i'm often surprised that these events even come together as they do. it's very chaotic as opposed to being planned from an official white house event. the reality is here, it was not a smooth operation. he should not have been in her line of sight. the clinton campaign is aware of that. they know that. they know they will likely have to disavow his support for her because of the comments that he has made. they trying to not add fuel to this fire here, but there's no way this controversy will go away or it's unlikely it will go away until they make that step. we'll see if that happens in the
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coming days. >> jeff zeleny, thanks. we do have breaking news now for you. in wisconsin in the primary race for speaker of the house paul ryan, we are joined from wisconsin. manu, tell us what happened. >> reporter: looks like paul ryan will be the victor of this primary against paul nehlen, a political novice, someone seen as a major underdog here. paul nehlen actually had won this race it would be one of the biggest upsets of the century, maybe the past two centuries. this race got into the national spotlight last week when donald trump said he was not going to endorse paul ryan initially, then of course a few days later, turned around and said that actually he was going to endorse paul ryan. but that really didn't amount to much, it appears like, in this race. one reason why, in the april presidential primary, ted cruz took this district and won it pretty overwhelmingly. this is not necessarily donald
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trump country. when donald trump actually tries to compete here in wisconsin, expect him to spend a lot of time in southern wisconsin. that's where mike pence is going to be later this week as well. but paul ryan and his campaign sort of viewed that flap back and forth with donald trump as nothing more than a distraction. paul nehlen really was never able to get much traction in this race. even as he tried to align himself with donald trump and go after paul ryan on the issues of immigration and trade issues, where paul ryan has differed with donald trump over. but now that this primary is over, it looks like paul ryan's going to win and win by a pretty healthy margin. expect him to hit the road, do a lot of campaigning for house republicans, raising money, trying to save house republican majority that could be increasingly at risk if donald trump's standing in the polls continues to decline. >> any word on the margin right now? we still waiting, too early to tell? >> reporter: we are still waiting. numbers are still coming in.
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but it appears it's going to be a pretty big victory and just in a few moments, paul ryan will be talking to reporters here. not one of your typical election night parties. a more subdued approach here. but talking about this victory and probably talking about donald trump, too. >> i can imagine yes to that. thanks so much. we will talk about this with the panel next. ♪ ♪ only those who dare drive the world forward. introducing the first-ever cadillac ct6.
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primary voters in house speaker paul ryan's district have just delivered him a pretty big victory. we expect to hear from him shortly. back now with the panel. let's talk about this a little bit. alex, how did we get here, where paul ryan's re-election battle became a question mark, or was it never really a question mark but it was just a strange thing? >> based on the margins we are seeing right now it doesn't really seem like it was ever really in doubt that he would prevail. i think we still all have this eric cantor hangover that he was not supposed to lose his primary, he ended up losing by a pretty decisive margin. you do have to approach these things with caution. paul ryan's a guy who has, despite his climb up the national chain, always has been attentive to his district and
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always stayed himself and his own views and policies he's advancing, pretty close to that mainstream wisconsin conservative tradition. so there's not a ton of room for somebody to out-flank him on the right with the voters who actually live in his district. >> you can't outflank him at home. he went home all the time. cory lewandowski, given that it appears that paul ryan won big, was this whole donald trump thing worth it? where he's saying i'm not ready to endorse and then ultimately he did, was it worth that song and dance from donald trump? >> what i think is you have donald trump and paul ryan continuing to understand what their relationship's going to be like if donald trump is elected president and the way they will work together. >> if that's the case, it's going to be complicated. >> there are fundamental differences. particularly a major difference when it comes to tpp and the trade issue. that's something they need to work through if donald trump will be elected president to work with the speaker of the house. other than that they have a great relationship. they met on multiple occasions. they agree on more things than they disagree with. this is a good night for donald trump. >> tell me the margins right
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now? 28% in, ryan is leading by 70%. what does that mean? it's 90/20? he's up by 70%. david gergen, what does this do for paul ryan going forward in his relationship with donald trump? >> i think it has two significant applications. one is relationship with donald trump, i think this last -- this dust-up between them is going to leave him less enthusiastic about going out and campaigning for donald trump. paul ryan is a realist. he knows it's really really important if he wants to preserve the house majority that trump either win or not lose by very much. if trump loses by ten points, the house probably goes to the democrats. he's got a self-interest in working with trump. i think the other issue is that with the spotlight on paul ryan, i think he's now safe and he clearly is going to be, if trump were to lose, he's going to be either the single most or one of the three or four most important republicans in the country to put the party back together. i think this gives him a safe
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base from which to do that. >> 85/15, i'm hearing. 85/15. pretty good win. you would take that. but it does, does it empower paul ryan going forward to say look, there was this issue, paul nehlen, the guy who ran against me, was supportive of donald trump, tried to run under the trump banner and i just crushed him? >> well, i never had an 85/15 win so i know he's a happy man right now but i don't think he's going to be the type of person that's going to harp on the past. he's going to look forward, like david gergen says. we have to maintain the house of representatives. we have to maintain the united states senate. it's going to be important that we work together on the issues that we have in common. that's what he's going to focus on. that is what his mission is right now. and he's a pretty smart guy. he knows the deal. he came out and said are you going to endorse donald trump, not quite there yet. donald trump gave it back to him a little bit. paul ryan's a pretty regular guy, too.
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he gets this. he's a great leader. he's going to do an awesome job as our speaker, continuing into the next house. >> i think the republicans are playing a game here because no one who knows paul ryan really believes that he wants donald trump to be president but he's in an extremely difficult position. but he also has an upside as david says either way. if donald trump loses, he becomes the most important republican in the country or at least one of the most important republicans in dun tthe country he can't lose by too much or else ryan could lose control of the house. >> john was talking about again, recreationist history here. that interchange between donald trump and paul ryan, paul ryan and donald trump, earlier in the campaign when paul ryan said he wasn't there yet, that's not what we are talking about right now. we are talking about him endorsing trump, trump having him open the republican national convention and then seemingly out of nowhere recently, donald
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trump saying i don't know, i don't like him anymore, used to like him, i don't like him and i may not going to be with him, then again republicans piling on donald trump and him for five seconds behaving and endorsing paul ryan. what it shows is again, what we are talking about is a lack of unity in the republican party driven by trump's inability to stay on message or behave in a presidential way. it keeps the conversation on how he's unfit to be president. >> hang on. hang on. >> i do think as we go forward, cory's right, we are figuring out the balance in the trump and ryan relationship. i think you will see a shift toward ryan as the election comes closer. if trump stays back in the polls, it's going to be ryan who republicans are looking to for signals as to how they ought to run their campaign and ryan's district just gave them a big vote of confidence to keep doing what he wants to do. >> thank you very much. paul ryan does not want hillary clinton to be the next president of the united states. i can tell you that.
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we're talking about amusement park safety after two horrible accidents. >> monday three girls fell about 45 feet from an amusement park ride in tennessee, one severely injured. >> one fell and bounced off, another fell off and bounced off, hitting the concrete. >> and 10-year-old kaleb schwab died from a neck injury and riding this water slide in kansas city, kansas. a foot taller than niagara fall. >> what we know about water parks is there's very little federal oversight or regulation. they're not required to report
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their injuries. much of this is handled at the state and local level. >> there are more than 400 amusement parks in the united states. no federal agency is responsible for oversight. it's up to the states to regulate and some are more strict than others. but the trade group that represents amusement parks tells cnn, quote, serious indencident are extremely rare. the most recent data shows of the millions of visitors to amusement parks in the u.s., there were more than 1,100 reported injuries. but that number does not account for water parks or traveling parks like the ferris wheel incident in tennessee. that data is harder to come by. it also doesn't account for close calls like this. >> i got you. >> a texas father forced to hold his 6-year-old son mid ride after the safety restraint came loose.
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and fatal incidents like the woman who fell out of a roller coaster car and plummeted to her death at six flags over texas in 2013. >> she goes up like this and then when it drops to come down, that's when it released and she just tumbled. >> all raise questions about why there isn't one standard to ensure the millions of riders are safe. >> they're expecting to have a safe ride. we need to make sure that all of the work on the design, maintenance and oversight and inspection is done so that there is a safe ride for everyone. >> well, there is some federal oversight for temporary fairs and carnivals, but 35 years ago legislation was revised preventing the federal government from regulating amusement parks and water parks. senator ed markey blames the revision on lobbying pressure from the amusement park industry. he's been trying since 1999 to restore that federal oversight but it hasn't happened.
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>> a footnote in tennessee say mechanical failure caused the ferris wheel incident at that county fair. emr em em eye mar amar amara walker has a report. >> there are four new zika cases in florida from mosquito bites. a wildfire in california has grown to nearly 7,000 acres and is only 6% contained. mandatory evacuation orders are in effect for some homeowners and some schools are shut down. >> delta cancelled hundreds more flights today after computer problems led to 1,000 flight cancellations monday. delta said the trouble started with a power outage at its
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thanks for watching. time for "cnn tonight" with don lemon. off script and in the line of fire, is this a new campaign low for donald trump? this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. breaking news. did trump threaten violence against hillary clinton by saying this? >> if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. although the second amendment people, maybe there is, i don't know. >> clinton's campaign manager says that's a dangerous suggestion of violence, but trump's campaign says it simply means supporters of the second amendment will vote in record numbers for trump in november. we're going to